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You had the chance to win the EN market.
You had it on easy mode when HoloEN stopped streaming for a year and still failed.
You threw away the EN market instead you went for Chyna.
Instead of being professional you yabbed non-stop
Instead of hiring talented people you went for your clique of Chinese friends, when it failed you went for untalented gender wokies, when that failed you went for twitch normies who weren't even vtubers and failed even harder.
Instead of strengthening your branch with their Japanese senpais like Hololive did, you isolated the branch and further deviating to Chyna

NijiEN needs to be made an example, because this is what happens when you let the Chinese take over your business.

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I love how Enna's clique nonstop shittalks America but not once has said anything bad about China. Are they loyal to the CCP or something?

>> No.44760809

This young nigga is spitting

>> No.44760983 [DELETED] 

>>44760743

Overseas Chinese (even 2nd/3rd generation ones) have zero loyalty to the country they live in, whether it be Australia, Canada, the US, etc.

>> No.44761112

>>44760668
>You had it on easy mode when HoloEN stopped streaming for a year and still failed.
Good point, this is actually true

>> No.44761169

>>44760668
You fags suck at gatekeeping lmao imagine being afraid of 14 year old twitter trannies

>> No.44761243

>>44761169

As a Hololive fan, I'm glad NijiEN wasn't gatekept so that the worst of the cancer can be contained there.

>> No.44761386

>>44761169
Look at the absolute state of NijiENs and Vshojos fanbases.
Enna made one little comment towards kyo and nijiEN fans lost their shit.
Silvervale played a game about wizards and they fucking dox and harass her.
I'm glad these fucking faggots are contained in those shit fanbases.

>> No.44761486

>>44760668
>You isolated your branch
that happened because most of the branch don't give a shit nor care to give a shit about NijiJP, KR or ID. That happened by the talents own hand, debatably management for awful scouting

>> No.44761589

>had a chance to win the en market when hololive stopped streaming
Over half of hololive still streamed frequently also half of the "yabs" were shit only people terminally /here/ gave a fuck about. I didn't even bother reading the rest of your statement. Even as a sapling I can see that it's bullshit

>> No.44761917

>>44761589
the only yabs were male collabs
that is a really low standart compare to Enna and Kyo cuckery and all the other shit

>> No.44761990

>>44760668
Literally taken over by China, from talents to management and ofc the fanbase. No decent westerner should watch this CCP infiltrated branch.

>> No.44762179

They never really stood a chance. All the bad decisions they made are coming to bite them in the ass now: constant slew of new waves, constant drama, and constant graduations. It's honestly surprising this didn't happen sooner but later than it did. Unless you can ignore that, I'm not sure why anone would join NijiEN at this point. Might as well join another corpo or go indie.

>> No.44762262

>>44761589
Nijicope

>> No.44762501

>>44761589
>Over half of hololive still streamed frequently
Streaming hours for 2022
EN
>926 hours :: Takanashi Kiara (216 streams)
>636 hours :: Mori Calliope (192 streams)
>603 hours :: Hakos Baelz (235 streams)
>603 hours :: Watson Amelia (234 streams)
>582 hours :: IRyS (134 streams)
>571 hours :: Ceres Fauna (197 streams)
>519 hours :: Nanashi Mumei (199 streams)
>450 hours :: Ouro Kronii (140 streams)
>380 hours :: Gawr Gura (131 streams)
>309 hours :: Ninomae Ina'nis (118 streams)
>135 hours :: Tsukumo Sana (48 streams)

600 hours/year is really not a lot
only Kiara, Mori and Bae are frequent streamers, Ame and Fauna took too many breaks and IRyS took a few very long ones

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Look at the shit they get away with on stream nowadays

>> No.44764359

>>44762911
Sorry but this is Nijisanji fault for hiring these Liars not on the Talent.

Meanwhile Hololive/Holostars has so much wholesome story before/during/and after Thier Audition.

And then there is Subaru "I got Hired cuz my House Burned down" lol

>> No.44764803

>>44762501
Looks like anon was right. You've got Kiara (shudder) way ahead of everyone. Then the next five are all within spitting distance of 600 hours. I'm really not sure why you set the cutoff between Bae and Ame when they have literally the same number of hours streamed. To me, the first significant drop is between Fauna and Mumei.

>> No.44765130

>>44764803
>Kiara (Shudder)
When are you going to give up 2021?

>> No.44765140

>>44762501
The problem is not streaming hours. Kiara dominates EU prime time. But there's a lot of dead hours during West and East coast prime time these days, which used to be Ame, Gura and Mori's timeslot in 2021.
Fauna, Mumei and Kronii tend to stream in that timeslot these days. But there are days where only one of them streams for one or two hours. Then there's nothing but dead hours until JP wakes up.
They desperately need a third gen because some people actually fucked off to NijiEN because of days with no streams during US prime time. Won't be surprised if those people fuck back off to HoloEN with the ways things are going over there.

>> No.44765636

Why did such a cute logo go to such a shit company

>> No.44765958

>>44765140
You have a point. A few more streamers would make it easier for when everyone decides to go to Japan and take dance lessons at the same time.

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>>44760668
This is what happens when you hire twitter morons as management. After Luxiem's great success they thought it's smooth sailing and in the span of a year everything went to shit.

The few really good members like Pomu or Selen will continue to do okay but growth is pretty much dead and all future waves will be sub 1k shitters.

>> No.44766246

>>44762501
>380 hours :: Gawr Gura (131 streams)
That's like 2 months of streaming for any of the Niji girls. Except Enna who is a lazy piece of shit

>> No.44766373

>>44765140
Kiara streams a lot but she's also the weakest EN member in general. A lot of people simply gets filtered by her.

Plenty of other members stream decent hours this is not the problem. The problem is generally boring safe content. Another wave is not going to fix that if anything they would make averages even lower per member.

Also HoloEN collabs are literally the worst collabs out of all EN corps. They are all boring crap that feels like they are forced to be there together.

>> No.44766528

>>44761386
The people harassing Silver were not vshojo fans. Most of the twitter retards attacking her didn't even know basic shit about her.

>> No.44766780

>>44761386
When will you fucking morons finally realize that those people are not fans? They are permanently online twitter retards looking for drama.

50 dedicated morons can make it look like entire twitter is against you. Dumbshit corps really need to stop giving those people any attention.

All big twitch streamers played Hogwarts then proceeded to ignore twitter retards or even made videos laughing about them.

>> No.44766880

>>44766373
>Another wave is not going to fix that if anything they would make averages even lower per member.
That's a fucking retarded claim from someone who's scared his oshi will lose viewers to new girls. When ID3 debuted the entire branch (except Ollie) got a huge boost in viewers. There's no reason why this wouldn't happen with EN3. Also, averages won't be low because you have to go out of your way to overlap. Right now there's been a gap of 5 fucking hours with no hololive streams.
Your claim about "safe content" is retarded too because guess which EN streams get the most viewers? Minecraft.
>Also HoloEN collabs are literally the worst collabs out of all EN corps
You're probably a fucking cuckbeat that wants more NijiEN lite content. Fuck off.

>> No.44766948

>>44760743
Isn't she Canadian? They are pretty much a Chinese colony by now.

>> No.44767016

>>44766880
>guess which EN streams get the most viewers? Minecraft.

Yes from underage kids watching MC like drones.

>> No.44767097

>>44761386
>I'm glad these fucking faggots are contained in those shit fanbases.
How can we be sure they are contained there when HoloEN barely even dares to mention the game?

>> No.44767149

>>44766373
Kiara makes an absolutel shit ton in super chats, retard.

>> No.44767164

>>44767097
Bae did a harry potter stream because she couldn't fucking play it on her shitty laptop in Japan and absolutely nothing happened to her. Get another argument.

>> No.44767168

>>44766880
See you when EN3 comes out and in two months they are doing 4k averages. Recent 3d streams clearly showed how small EN box is today. Minecrap streams get high views because algorithm.

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>>44767168
>>44767016

>> No.44767218

>>44767149
I thought SC don't matter? Make up your mind.

>> No.44767247

>>44767218
Who said that?

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>>44767149

>> No.44767337

>>44767218
They're peanuts compared to other forms of revenue but they do matter somewhat.

>> No.44767343

>>44767149
Used to not anymore. Hell she gets fucked by that brown NijiEN girl.

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>>44767299
based

>> No.44767400

>>44767215
What happened to 100k Gura 3d? What about 100k 3d collab eh? Face it they are bleeding fans every month.

>> No.44767484

>>44767164
The smallest shitter doing a themed stream to funnel into an event only to then never mention HP again rather proves how afraid they are.

>> No.44767542

>>44767400
Well yeah, no new content for like a year so the fanbase thinned a little. Still easily the top of EN.

>> No.44767711

>>44767400
i love how you Nijifags can only default to Gura while Niji is different talent yab every week, love the diversity.

>> No.44767777

>>44766948
Canadian asians are quite often some of the most mentally ill leftoids, so it's not surprising that they'll excuse those hecking bad corpos and countries until their own paycheck directly depends on supporting them, and makes it especially easy when they can rally together a bunch of their tranny friends through nepotism.

>> No.44767997

>>44767711
>muh Niji

Rent free holy shit. They are losing fans to small corps like Idol and Phase now. Niji EN is not growing for months.

>> No.44768130

>>44767400
>>44767997
What happened to 100k Mylord Return 3d? What about 100k 3d LazuLight collab eh

And you:>>44767542
>no new content for like a year so the fanbase thinned a little
Still get median above 30k. Vox median shitter sub 5k
Still merch monster. NijiEn Cough cough Merch doko??
Still number #1. Vox still below Kiara ahahhahahah.

Nice ignoring the 3d was weekday, thursday very late for EST audience and 12:00pm for JST except for EOP and PST.
But of course her VODS still increasing becasue she has worldwide audience nijinniger.
Your shitters NijiEN is ZHangs who loves suck Winnie Poh dick only.
Gura always living rent free in your head. This thread never talk about her and you niggers always the ones who start shit. Hope that Sayu expose your black company soon

>> No.44769015

>>44768130
Nijinogs love to play the numbers game until people point out they have like one or two girls who don't hover either below 1k or between 1-2k ccv.
And because of pissing off the chinese even their golden goose males lost almost all of their viewership.

>> No.44769042

>>44767299
Is this February? The month she rarely streamed bc of traveling? Yet still almost got the same amount as Bae who streamed every day leading up to her birthday? That's craaaaazzzzzyyyyy.

>> No.44769280

>>44767299
>The month where 3/4 of her streams were on other people's channels due to offcollabs
>still made more than half of EN and Vox
Not sure what you're trying to prove but OK.

>> No.44770943

>>44762501
what do you mean? the queen of vtubing, the Great Gawr Gura streamed at least an hour a day!

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>>44769042
Anon this is the best out of her recent months. She's losing to Irys, Fauna, Pomu and Scarle since September where she minimally beat Irys.

>> No.44771651

>>44762501
How do we save Sana?

>> No.44771707

>>44765958
Well that is unless they have a large gap between new gens like EN2, where they'll end up eventually getting their 3D and then following suit to go do the recordings in Japan again.
Though that has no bearing on streams outside of going on a 2 month trip.

>> No.44771733

>>44771542
Actually she's losing to them since august 2022.

>> No.44771915

>>44760743
i've heard the term enna's clique thrown around a lot in the last week, what is enna's clique?

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>>44760668
Twitch indie circles are now getting far better numbers than recent NijiEN waves. Unless you are a 2view there is literally no reason to join Niji now.

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>>44760668
The best nijiEN member is a girl from Hong Kong that wishes to be Japanese

>> No.44772734

>>44762501
where's nijiEN girls list, I want to brag about scarle's redbull fueled stream hours

>> No.44773079

>>44772121
Ironic how I think the AI tuber is the one doing the most "normal" activities, whereas the 2 of the 4 here just do a ton of react "content" and horny b8.

>> No.44773322

>>44772368
Is Obsydia the least yab afflicted wave of EN?

>> No.44774033

>>44773322
they were all safe hires, all 3 girls have seemingly good character

>> No.44774098

>>44772368
Apologized to Chinese, state support of one China policy.
Guess that's explain why she's in niji.

>> No.44774215

>>44774098
She apologized for her sanity and career
It doesn't change what she initially said it in the first place.

>> No.44774635

>>44774098
One China policy is recognized by both the US and Japan, I'm not sure why you expect a literal who entertainer on the internet to not fold under chink harassment and be more based in her statements than two states responsible for Taiwan being a country. Petora hardly even acknowledges knowing mandarin now, let alone speaks it on stream, even though it would be very lucrative in NijiCN. She's alright.

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>>44772368
>Selen's yabs
some immaturity with vidya (muh le toxic gamer behavior)
>Petra's yabs
haha whoops! Totally an accident haha I really don't mean to expose this discord showing that NijiEN are spiteful, vindictive, snakes in the grass

should I take the Cantonese pill?

>> No.44775561

>>44771542
She's been traveling since December lul
Still doing better than most EN

>> No.44776073

>>44775277
>should I take the Cantonese pill?
If you mean learning it, then probably not.
>haha whoops! Totally an accident haha I really don't mean to expose this discord showing that NijiEN are spiteful, vindictive, snakes in the grass
Is this the one that showed them trash talking Holo Council or something else?

>> No.44777381

>>44772121
>The AI Vtuber
I actually really glad the community embraced her instead of freaking out like when the Hooahs on chaturbate freaked out when Melody started.

>> No.44778279

>>44776073
the trash talking, and also how Mysta is a whiny menhera

>> No.44778351

>>44772368
the nijisanji EN thread hates petra so you know she must be good

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>>44771651
She was another soft CCP shill. Maybe not ideologically but surely economically. She preferred them over Hololive and I'm glad she's gone.
I feel sorry for the Sanalites who were genuinely invested on her and the brown skin enthusiast who were finally thrown a bone, but Sana was definitely not invested in Hololive.

>> No.44778526

>>44774098
I struggle to understand anyone who legitimately hates Petra for that. Would you rather she endanger herself and her family for wrongthink? She is Chinese, it isn't the West where you can get on a podium and tell the President to kill himself. Even in Australia you have some guy who's house was burned by a gang because he mocked politicians.

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>>44778279
Mysterio I will save you

>> No.44781763

>>44778351
Sounds like a good barometer to follow
>/nijien/ loves Pomu the liar, Elira the ring leader, Rosemi the opportunist, Enna the bitch, and Meloco the grifter
>they hate Selen, Petra, Reimu, Nina, Kotoka, and Zaion
Basically all the girls the sisters hate are the ones you should pay attention to. And pray that in a couple of years once the niji house of cards falls apart, that they can find success in their future indie or other corpo careers.

>> No.44782637

>>44778526
>it isn't the West where you can get on a podium and tell the President to kill himself
>the West
You mean the USA, right? Because you'd get fined and/or jailed for that in EU countries and Canada.

>> No.44782733

>>44772734
>running on redbull AND coffee
Scarlings...

>> No.44782889

>>44781763
>Elira the ring leader, Rosemi the opportunist
Not really involved in Niji affairs, is this just terminally /here/ autistic schizo conjecture?

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Honestly at this point Phase Connect is actually proving a challenge for these bozos. Hololive will always be the best of the big Agencies but hopefully someone puts Xijisanji and VFagjo in their place

>> No.44784416

>>44782953
This but with Production Kawaii or Idol.
Phaseshit are shameless opportunists leeches who would suck vTweeter turd worlders to shove them in between Hololive memes.

>> No.44785787

>>44766373
I like the HoloMinistry collabs though.

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