/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

/#/ is declining

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>44466995
>irys 7.8k
anon, irys most probably had the same sex 3D that bae used on her birthday.. I'm predicting an 18k stream IF ONLY she got that up her sleeves

Welcome to the family Miko

>>44466729
>or organizers
I say Fauna did try to assume that role, as shown in that End adventure she organized to kill the end dragon.
But, as the saying goes
>you can take a horse to the water but you can't force it to drink
The whole of HoloEN "pivoted" from an enseble to a collective of individual channels, each taking care of their own business with very little care about whatever is going on with their sister channels.
They have no interest in developing a "box", no inclination to pair up, tag team or whatever collective activity is necessary for the growth of all.

As they are, their collective strength is actually *negative*, with some girls having a lower audience when they are in collabs and others (like Kronii and Mori), having a higher audience when they collab WITH ANYONE ELSE BUT THEIR BRANCH MATES

>>44467377
VSingers don't dance, else they'd be VDancers
can IRyS even dance?

>>44466904
>>44467154
Natural trannies are non-human,forced trannies suffer because of them.trannies supporter are not even human to me

>>44466779
the funny thing about the word "want to support the cause" is, thanks to this magic words some Indo Sister immediately abandoned Ragus, so yeah good job leader

>>44466824
>>44467072
I'm not making an argument about id and kr, im talking about member who had custom merch, and those include members of those two. i remember them being they were the most recent
as for the jp ones, i found out a link for amamiya custom merch from last year
https://twitter.com/amamiya_kokoro/status/1532244255808589824?s=20

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>39,525: Marine (Hololive)
>36,504: Miko (Hololive)
>28,719: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,285: Sango (Nijisanji)
>25,095: Botan (Hololive)
>21,921: Lain (Nijisanji)
>21,006: Nene (Hololive)
>19,690: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,407: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>16,856: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,651: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>16,192: Watame (Hololive)
>15,906: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,413: Furen (Nijisanji)
>14,612: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,521: Mio (Hololive)
>14,075: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,585: Ui (Indie)
>11,458: Boogey Voxx (Indie)
>11,306: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,186: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,942: AZKi (Hololive)
>10,283: Luna (Hololive)

>>44467377
Bae is more popular than IRyS

>>44467439
numbers?

>>44466946
> timeslots, consistency on that timeslot, reliance on the box, overlaps, time started (delay or what), day of the week, fanbase behavior (would they rather watch live or on-demand)
Unironically skill issue, since all of this is dependent on the chuubas themselves.
> algorithm
I have NEVER seen a STREAM getting bigger than normal CCV out of fucking YT recommends. Youtube Live Streams are almost never recommended outside of the intended audience. "muh algo" is a classic VODcope.
> length of the stream
Only matters if the stream is sub 1hour in length. The hundreds of graphs we have available will show that the peak of a stream usually happens between 30mins and 1 hour, with the rare 2+ hour peak involving funnels etc. After that it's the streamer's pulling power that keeps the viewers there, i.e. whether the graph plateaus or reclines.
Both of which are - again - skill issue.

> YT being a retard
Does not affect peak CCV as much, aside from the occasional hiccup RIGHT as a stream reaches it's peak. Those fuckups are mostly anomalies.

>>44467529
Barely 14k for Ina-Lamy offcollab, why do people hate JP x EN collab?

>>44467529
>Another silver for Miko
Jeez, she is going to set the silver record

>>44467529
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Gura, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nerumero, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
48x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
20x: Pekora
6x: Marine
4x: Toya
3x: Mio
2x: Kuzuha, Miko, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>>44467535
IRyS's fault for anchoring herself to the debuff rat

>>44467215
Just dive the archives to that thread anon, ENkeks actually believed everything that was posted in that screenshot, not even shitposters thought HoloEN could recline as hard as they did.

Well it happened. Gura's 3D showcase has already passed Moona's in total views. All the Moona shitters can now shut the fuck up and crawl back in their holes. Know your place.

GRIM

>>44467588
She thought Marine MC would be an easier opponent

>>44467569
>filters people that can't understand english
>filters people that can't understand japanese
>people that just hate EN in general

>>44467543
gonads{0,1,2}

>>44467569
eh it was over 100k+ holo viewers

>>44467453
he is a 21 year old korean kid who has taken the "Leader" role too seriously. He thinks he needs to represent a mass and gain respect from every corner

>>44467535
the only one in EN less popular than bae is IRyS

>>44467495
Your whole argument is
>it is NOT ZERO
Please stop making that argument, it's silly and try to justify something unjustifiable and something even you yourself is on record decrying.
Anycolor treatment of the ID branch (in particular) and the KR branch (back when it was imploding) is abhorrent, they would be better off closing the branch outright instead of "omboarding them" into the main branch only to give them fuck all.

>>44467569
They don’t, they just love Minecraft more

>>44467665
but the entire stream was in japanese

Just woke up from a Coma since Jan 2021, man I love Hololive and Nijisanji. It's cool there's a hobby with little drama I can come back to. Did I miss anything?

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>3/6 DAILY TALLY
6,793: Fauna (Hololive)
6,743: Mysta (Nijisanji)
6,028: Vox (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Mori, Vox, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English, Fauna

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
11p: Fauna
10p: Vox
6p: Mysta
5p: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English
3p: Uki
1p: Shu, Pippa, Elira

>>44467665
>filters people that can't understand english
lamy english during the collab: chocolate, myth, starbucks

>>44467741
Go back to your coma, veggie-san

>>44467616
Bae isn't the debuff clearly. I mean just look at their valentines routes. Bae's song also is doing better than the one on IRyS's channel.

>>44467682
yeah funny thing is the Kobo Ragus arc have some weird thing that attract some of the Indo sister, and then the magic words happen

>>44467569
Interbranch interactions should stay in minecraft, like pekomoona

>>44467669
go back

>>44467741
>It's cool there's a hobby with little drama
>Jan 2021
Top kek, imagine being this retarded, that was pretty much the peak of teh chinkout, with the HoloCN branches having just been unceremoneously graduated after one of the biggest dramas to touch the hobby

>>44467741
>Jan 2021
>hololive and nijisanji have no drama
I think you might have slipped into another dimension during your coma.

>>44467756
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
44x: Hololive
19x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
8x: Mori
7x: Amelia
5x: Mumei, Baelz
4x: Ina, IRyS, Fauna
3x: Mysta, Vox, Gura
2x: Selen, Pomu, Kronii
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Kiara, Hololive English

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
52p: Fauna
49p: Mumei
48p: Mori, Amelia
46p: Ina
40p: Baelz
38p: IRyS
36p: Vox
30p: Mysta
18p: Kiara
17p: Kronii
16p: Luca
15p: Gura
13p: Selen
11p: Uki
10p: Pomu
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Rosemi, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Shu, Pippa

>>44467563
> algorithm
>I have NEVER seen a STREAM getting bigger than normal CCV out of fucking YT recommends. Youtube Live Streams are almost never recommended outside of the intended audience. "muh algo" is a classic VODcope.
This has happened to a few vtubers that got popular with /vt/ users and then got recommended to others though the algo
Rindo Yuuki being one of the more recent examples

>>44467756
Fauna seriously win? Damn Niji truly shoot itself on the foot.

>>44467830
tadaima, you missed me?

>>44467756
WHEN I SAY "FAUNA" YOU SAY "KNEEL" (and kneel)

>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)

SHE'S YOUR QUEEN FOR TODAY, EN LADS, KNEEL TO YOUR QUEEN!

>>44467847
What are you saying anon? chinks aren't people. Why would they matter?

>>44467892
Fuck fauna
t. hooman

>>44467741
tfw not in a coma and still love hololive and nijisanji only the girls though

>>44467756
Anons told me nijigold ??????????????

>>44467864
>Rindo Yuuki
You'll have to post numbers to back that up. If it is the idolEN chick, their company spent lots in ads for their streams

>>44467756
Yeah, NijiCN (and Fungus) didn't do as well as expected.

>>44467892
She might unironically become a 5view someday that will be interesting

>>44467792
Hakos "2k shitter" Baelz isn't a debuff
Yea sure

>>44467756
I would be impressed that the difference was only 2 digits, if Mori hadn't won by 1 digit just the other day.

> JP first army get god ccv
> Gura gets god VOD
Instead of celebrating holo dominance in both metrics, you dumb fucks let nijinigs pit you against each other.

Also some fucker in my region got banned last year for p3do shit

>>44467756
>the two stars of NijiEN can't beat a Fauna debuff stream
Jesus, you don't even have to go back that far to get to a point where it seemed like NijiEN actually had a lot of momentum. Just like December. The bottom really fell out over there.

>>44467756
Honestly I'm shocked Mysta got that much with a gaming stream, I thought he would get 5k or worse
Vox slip is far worse, his ASMRs really have fallen off huh

Shota Peko

>>44467756
This was the freebie day niji you good?

>>44467792
Just let me believe IRyS isn't a total failure anon, please

>>44467756
nice

>>44467756
I thought NijiEN was going to get their comeback in March. This looks more like HoloEN is coming on NijiEN backs...
It's 5-1 now and NijiEN doesn't have any big stream until 10th...

>>44467756
Fauna didn't slip lol

>>44467963
she's been at 6-8k neutral streams for like 9 months now. She isn't inclining or reclining from that point. She's probably already peaked

>>44467927
Your oshi is a vtweeter now

>>44467569
My theory, at least when it comes to JP fans, is that the JP growth in the last year or two is mostly with casual fans who aren't going to give a shit if any language other than Japanese is spoken. Being new fans, they also weren't around during the early days of EN when JP and EN interacted more, and without that background people like Ina are basically unknown to them so they'll just go to some other JP who is streaming at the same time. Probably the same thing happened with EN, be their increase of newer fans with no interest/knowledge of JP was smaller and didn't overcome the early bandwagoners leaving, hence overall recline in addition to JP being debuff.

>>44467756
only NijiEN cripple win is a Vox return from a yab stream KEK. And anons were predicting that to be 30-40k..............

>>44467999
shota oneesan/milf/obasan, my favorite genre

>>44467756
This tally is pretty grim. Imagine having 6k gold.

>>44467963
nah, it's not happening. Fauna simply filters too many people with her voice. She's fine where she is

>

>>44468055
justice for murdoc

>>44467756
>Fauna
>Only Holo stream for the day
>No overlap
>Luxiem
>Overlapped each other and lots of other NijiEN streams while doing debuff content
>Fauna still almost lost
This isn't the win you think it is, holofags

>>44468051
but they strickly spoke JP from beginning to end, not even a phrase in EN

>>44468104
Risu was 10 viewers away from greatness.

>>44468051
The gap is always there. JP and EN drifting away from each other is only a matter of time

>>44467979
The Last Samurai are the biggest pieces of garbage in this thread. It's not shocking that everybody hates them. The Nijifags are more pleasant to deal with.

>>44468115
So Luxiem didn't perform as well as expected? is that what all this says?

>>44468051
>who aren't going to give a shit if any language other than Japanese is spoken.
I disagree, many of that "crop" tune in into ID eventful streams and would turn in into EN streams if the timezone was approipriate. I doubt it is a language barrier
>Being new fans, they also weren't around during the early days of EN when JP and EN interacted more,
I say it is more like that, and the low frequency of streams on the EN side doesn't help either.

>>44468080
this is written by a part-timer with no pull in any decision making

>>44467377
I'm not sure if she will get 18k, but the other guy with 7.8k prediction was clearly just shitposting. Does anyone sane actually think that she will get less viewers on her birthday stream than her archived karaoke stream?

>>44467804
Good old EN-JP portal days, this was peak HoloEN

i remember an anon in the last thread or thread before talking about sykkuno meeting some mika girl...
is she a niji and they doxed her?

>>44468047
Your oshi literally sounds like a fire siren talking normally

>>44468104
Gura already passed Moona idiot. Go back in your hole. You lost.

>Gura
807k views
>Moona
801k views

>>44468155
You seem to love him a lot, capitalizes his name properly and all

>>44468141
Chumbuds and VODcoep, name more notorious duo

>>44467756
>Mysta and Vox in CN hours couldn't beat Fauna playing fucking penumbra
holy kek

>>44468212
>talking about sykkuno meeting some mika girl...
Mika is NijiID that tags along with NijiEN
>is she a niji and they doxed her?
I don't think she got doxxed as much as she disclosed her off collabs and her off collab partners also disclosed it

>>44468212
Mika Melatika? NijiID

>>44468234
yeah, so? Makes me cum

>>44468242
Anon big VOD view won’t suddenly give Gura extra ccv on the ranking. What’s wrong with not winning every competition?

>>44468273
based number rabbit

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>>44468273
Not now spectrum-kun

>>44468273
pekora is the queen. She can do anything

>>44468273
Is this a new one? Damn this guy can’t even be bothered to type a new comment, he just copy pasted it like a bot

>>44468312
yea kys, go jerk off more to mommy's asmr sapling

>>44468273
Didn't she also stream over Watame's live that she herself was in?

>>44467939
Not the idolEN chick, it was the underage chumbud that got groomed. Went from a 1view to a 3view. I was getting her recommended before I saw the shill threads about her.
But yeah there's no way to get real numbers on how much recs actually help, all you have is word of anon.

>>44467429
KAF...

>>44468329
More people watched Gura and will continue to watch Gura. Deal with it.

>>44467792
Funny part is that for IRyS standards, Bae actually buffed compared to her other releases kek

>>44467726
Anycolor's system is to give them an avatar to operate. Whether they perform well or not is up to the operator. The livers can use it however they pleased based on the agreements they have.
Anycolor has an exploitative business model but at least you can use the avatar and then stream during your free time which may bring you extra cash.
This is why I like Cover's system. It is like Anycolor but much more caring and generous to the talents, to the point that some get too lazy because of passive money from merch.

>>44467756
Alight funny joke where's the real cripple tally
There's no way it has only 3 entries with a Fauna Penumbra stream beating the top 2 Luxiem

>>44467726
anon, what the fuck are you talking about? I only mentioned ID and KR because they got custom merch, thats all. My argument is about custom merch existing, not about kr and id. thats why i mentioned all of them along jp. at least understand the context of the conversation instead.

>>44468429
What do you mean? All her other covers did better

>>44468428
And Gura will not stream regularly . Deal with it chumbuds.

>one deleted post
Interesting. The word that must not be named.

>>44467756
nijisis wtf is this?

>>44467756
Fauna is legitimately a bigger and more important talent than Luxiem in 2023, it's completely undeniable. who would have thought it would be possible?

>>44468478
It's real CN sister. Luxiem lost. Deal with it.

>>44467756
>1p: Pippa
Wtf

>>44468396
>I was getting her recommended before I saw the shill threads about her.
Because you lurk this thread. You don't need to open the embed for youtube to match your IP to what gets shared here.
>the underage chumbud that got groomed
It was not the algo pushing her forward, it was 1% of 1% of Gura potential audience turning their eyes towards her.

Why is no one talking about Zeta catching up to Fauna's subs?

I miss the days when you could expect a Mumei stream for Fauna to funnel into.

>>44468392
Yeah.

>>44468516
Transylvania? Seems to be a hot word right now

>>44468561
1. IRyS
2. Fauna
3. Luxiem

Order of importance

>>44468517
For some reason people who don't watch her care more about Gura not streaming than her fans, why? is it because there is nothing else to complain about her?

>>44468396
If you’re using a chromium browser then Google knows what to recommend you on YouTube. It’s why the nambia thing took off here.

>>44468444
No, thats not their model. thats just id and kr being abandoned, as en and jp gets merch and voice packs just by existing, with even the less popular getting basic merch

>>44467756
This tally looks so pathetic, just change it to gaijin tally already

How do we save luxiem?

>>44468613
Fauna never seemed to funnel much to mumei anyways. Mumei starts streams too late for funnels most of the time. Her best numbers have always been in EST but she's commited to PST viewers now

> All this VOD 'discussion'
Just to let you know Kobo absolutely dunk every EN minus Gura on vods, except asmr.

>>44468600
Because Fauna and probably Zeta is gonna make a endurance stream for 700k also Fauna has her Birthday stream next week. Fauna will get a lot buff

>>44468481
I understand, the context of the conversation is
Claim (paraphrased)
>ID and KR are so sidelined they won't even get custom merch
Your counterclaim (also paraphrased)
>they don't get ZERO custom merch

That adds nothing to the conversation other than excessive literalism over what's more than just an hyperbole, but the truth with just enough counterexamples to have something to hang your hat on.

NijiID birthday merch for some of them was FUCKING FANMADE, one of them is on record in 2023 asking people not to stop donating because, even if he would prefer to do more, he doesn't have enough of a revenue to quit his job and go full time

Cripple podium

>Gold
Fauna Minecraft
>Silver
Myth collab
>Bronze
5KRyS birthday

Why was /vt/ down for so long?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjg2yxszyg4
Are JP taxes that bad?

>>44468757
>ISREAL
INDOCHADS STATUS?

>>44468779
A Shark ate the cables.

>>44468779
Tranny jannies got mad about their IRC erp getting leaked

>>44468784
Isn't that a roundabout way to say she made way more money?

>>44468784
It cost me $120.00 the whole 2 days+holo27 fest. So yeah...Yen is bad right now

>>44468779
anon.. I'll give you a hint, search for ''poal'' in the archives

>>44468770
Fuck off cucklings.

>>44468663
there is, but it's not completely obvious if you don't watch her streams

>>44468600
Because that's a foregone conclusion from the moment ID3 debuted? Zeta is one of the fastest growers streamers of any Holo branch, it would only be a matter of time until the caught up to every Council girl, maybe even beat all of them to 1M like Kobo already did.
It's a different market, untapped and less saturated.

Maybe if subs race are important again, this should be the one to keep tabs
>Selen catching up to Bae
But I don't really think this race is any important

>>44468770
shitrys

>>44468784
Tax is "bad" everywhere if you (1) make a lot of money and yet (2) aren't part of the elite 1%.
There are rich countries with low tax, but you will still get taxed a lot when you earn as much as Holo anyway (i.e: wasn't Lamy making like 1.5M US$ a year?)

Jwu, so Toya has membership now?

>>44468770
5Krys KEK, fucking cucklings are funny sometimes

>>44468770
where did all the 92k people go?

>>44468945
He does? I thought he beat Mito exactly to have HER open it instead of him
Things might be really hectic in Nijisanji if they're having their "refuseniks" to open membership now

>>44468757
>dunk every EN
you need your brain fixed.
Ina and Mori crushed her in their first year. Talk this when she get 2 years a half

>>44468757
Letting us know? We all fucking know.
Kobo has been mini Gura from the start. Why is that this bitch is almost 1 year old and people are still going
>HORY SHIT AN ID MOGGING JP/ENS HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE I JUST FOUND OUT TODAY
When does Kobo fucking strong sink into people's minds?

>>44468625
But Mumei is bigger than IRyS and Fauna...

>>44467529
BRONZE
>1) 32,085: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>2) 24,629: Miko (Hololive) mahjong collab
>3) 53,560: Miko (Hololive) Important Announcement
>4) 41,268: Marine (Hololive) Minecraft
>5) 38,302: Marine (Hololive) Getting Over It
>6) 28,719: Suisei (Hololive) HoloCure


> PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
3x: Miko
2x: Marine
1x: Suisei

and hololkeks would have (You) believe their tribe isn't top heavy.

>>44468945
Yea, Anycolor is forcing everyone to open memberships. It's part of the reason why a lot of niji livers were kinda pissed lately.

>>44468770
Don't worry IRyS will get 15k doing an exact copy but worse of Baes birthday stream since she can't dance. Myth collab will get 11k because it's on Kiara's channel

>>44469009
This. And Kiara crushed Miko in her first year.

>>44468758
anon i dont give a fuck about this discussion about id and kr. my initial post about this subject was only talking about how custom merch exists in nijisanji
>... ID, KR and JP all can have custom merch which they are involved in planning and funding. Nari, Siska, Seffyna, Gaon in id/kr and i remember amamiya and utako having custom merch last year too
Im not making any argument about id and kr having merch, I only mentioned them because they got custom merch, thats it. if it makes you feel better, I only will mention amamiya and utako and act like these other custom merch dont exist. because if you still dont understand, im not arguing about id nad kr but about custom merch in nijisanji

>>44468935
Zeta will probably beat every councilrys to a million. At the rate councilrys are growing, mumei will be he first to hit a million in over 2 years from now. Zeta would've hit 1mil months before that assuming she keeps up her current growth.

>>44469008
She doesn't, is just indogs want atention. Ask her when She start collab with the homos againa and more than females.

>>44468600
>/#/
>actually giving a shit about Fauna
lol

>>44469050
What's with Anykara being such a shitshow anyway. Sometimes they're retarded, sometimes their "livers" are.
>NOOOO I WON'T OPEN MEMBERSHIP AND HAVE CHANNEL EMOTES AIEEEE
What?

>>44469085
why isn't her CCV growing?

>june for sure
>july for sure
>october for sure
>november for sure
>january for sure
>holofes4 for sure

>>44468663
For some reason chumbuds who downplay ccv always come here to brag about her vod views, why? Is it because there's no other numbers to talk about since she doesn't stream?

>>44468942
They should ask to get paid in shares, with that + writing off expenses as part of their salary (which they already do) they could halve the amount they pay in taxes

>>44468935
Bae is gonna do an endurance for 700k, thats mean Fauna will do the same soon

no numbers to discuss, fuck shitposts. Who is your Quintessential Quintuplets best girl? And why is it Nino?

>>44469162
It's going to be fucking impossible for bae to hit 700k. She'll need to go for like 15 hours

>>44469163
NUMBERS?!?!

>>44469131
WHY DON'T YOU LEARN OLD MAN?!

>>44469127
Subs are irrelevant to CCV. They are a measure of lifetime popularity. This is why you can homos (yes actual stars) mogging Ollie but even together they'll never have 1 million subs or be as known.

>>44468392
She did a watch along while playing GOD

>>44469190
4

>>44469185
Thats the problem is Bae. She will do at least 12 hours karaoke. Hope her throat doesn't die before the holoFes

>>44469072
this guy is clearly an indog who cant interpret a basic sentence. anyone with a brain know you were talking about custom merch and not focusing on some defense over id and kr

>>44469142
Stop coping on me anon, I'm not a chumbud and I don't give a fuck positively or negatively about Gura, I just find funny that it's always the same 3 guys talking about the same thing

Please respond to at least one of my multiple Gura baits what the fuck. It used to be so easy with you chumkeks why are you frigid on (you)s all of a sudden

>>44468185
HoloproEN server portal arc soon

>>44469008
She reclined a lot, anon.

>>44469142
nta but there's nothing to downplay about ccv, everyone knows it's a meme metric that's only good for horse racing

>>44468863
Okay, well taking down /vt/ won't change anything unless their goal is to draw more attention to it.

I removed Gura because the fragile chumbuds won't stop seething whenever they see this.

>>44469163
Kitagawa Marine

>>44468392
https://youtu.be/ukOJ5JGbA7o
Compare this with myth one

>>44468973
>lost to ID

>>44469307
Good

>>44469085
I think mumei will be stagnant at 800-900k like Kronii. It is how EN market works now.

>>44469072
Are you arguing with ghosts then? In almost every (relevant) niji birthday their merch gets posted in this thread. Sometimes it's cookie cutter, sometimes it's custom.
Is your whole point "custom merch in Nijisanji is not zero"? If it is, congratulations, your point is as correct as it is useless to any discussion ever had in this thread, people know custom merch exists in that company

>>44469307
remind me, who won gold on the day of risu's showcase?

>>44467569
I honestly thought it would beat the Kiara-Korone collab

a lot of IRyS shitposting today, what's the new niji drama?

>>44469276
Not in VODs and she can still bust out 8-14ks. She's basically EN high tier and always has been (because EN also reclined with her).

>>44467756
Aside from the HomoEN collabs all the non event streams are sub 10k. Grim.

Seems that only block game and unarchived karaoke are the only things that can even beat that barrier.

>>44469307
Just move Myth to the top since they were culled.

>>44469383
>She's basically EN high tier
LMAO

Let me remind JPfag that 2020 kiara mogs 2019 Pekora/Miko/Suisei/Marine/Aqua and Subaru.

>>44469307
>fragile
when you're the one compiling picrel after picrel, investing minutes and minutes of your time KEK

>>44469358
Pekora

>>44469342
meanwhile, it took a year+ of 24/7 shilling to push ONE holoX member above 1m. JP market is pretty saturated now.

>>44469330
Cope irystocrap, her 3D won't even get half of what she got for her 2.0

>>44469307
Why don’t you put the 92k one?

>>44469433
that doesn't count!

>>44469342
It depends.
If EN3 ever releases all ENs will have a boost in subs.
If mumei ever gets around to doing a 3d live that she's been planning for she'll get a boost in subs.
She'll also get a boost in subs when her new original eventually releases etc
And that applies to every member
To get subs you actually have to do something, and I have more faith in mumei doing something than say kronii or irys

>>44468242
Imagine being this insecure.

>>44469342
Speaking of Kronii, is she still MIA ? As she given life sign since Bae stream ? Her birthday is next week no ?

>>44469383
>8k
get a rope already sister. Whe already getting borid of the timeloop over and over

>>44469424
lying rabbitnigger
https://vrabi.net/daily/2022-09-18

>>44469307
Man I knew you niggers were going to shitpost with these showcases the moment I realized IDs were gonna get uncontested JP prime time. Delusional indogs real might cope that Moona got 87k on their own, but everyone knows fucking Iofi would never see a 50k stream in her life under normal circumstances.

>>44469433
That's not 3D showcase, anon.

>>44468935
Zeta can get as many subs as she wants she's still a 2k vtuber. Same with Selen (3k). Piles and piles of subs, ccv hasn't budged other than to maybe drop a bit off her peak.

>>44469428
Atleast they have 1M now. Heck Koyori is about to surpass Kronii while Iroha have some surge in subs.

>>44468273
and? i fail to see the issue? streaming over someone else is nothing compared to being a seething schizo

>>44467756
Fauna GOD. Fauna GOD. Fauna GOD. Fauna GOD. Fauna GOD. Fauna GOD.

>>44469502
don't forget about subaru and pekora funneling their audiences into moona's showcase. she still couldn't beat gura's botched 3D live.

>>44469513
Moona's "showcase" what pretty much a 3D live though

>>44469433
D-doesn't count, it doesn't have showcase in the name!
I find it funny that they tried the Moona vs Gura thing way back then with the showcase vs live.
>>44469492
What? I'm not following. What timeloop am I invoking by mentioning Kobo can get 8k ccv and higher?

>>44469307
Just add the JP so we all know it is fair tally.

>>44469480
Imagine shitposting everyday of your miserable live and die from cancer a very awful way meanwhile people is celebrating your death nijinniger

>>44467991
It was fools gold. Anyone who looked at the context of those December/January victories could see that that NijiEN were going to go downhill once the buff spamming wore out.

>>44469486
Yeah she tweeted about her jaw being swollen and stuff but it's going down.

>>44469085
Nah, IRyS will hit it this year. She will get a boost for her B-day and anniversary. Then she will get a boost from Holofes in general when she does really well at the show. Then you have the Council 3D showcases which will give her a boost. Then of course when she is nearing 1 million she will do an endurance and get like 20k in a day.

>>44469318
>Chan × chan
>Ai!! chikichiki banban
>Ai!? chikichiki chanchan
>Aa! chikichiki banban
>Ai!! chukichukichuki banban
>HIGH chikichiki banban
>Ai!? chikichiki chanchan
>Aa! chikichiki banban
>Ai!! chukichuki
I seriously love this song.

Why is Cover dragging their feet on EN 3 when HoloEN is their most popular branch?

>>44467756

>>44469525
the marvels of non-stop corporate shilling.

>>44469555
Thats her showcase. Blame EN for doing retarded skits.

>>44469433
They like to pretend Myth's 3D showcases still has the first-time buff

>>44469579
She gets 4k per month when streaming and i guaranteed to take multiple breaks of two weeks or more this year. Not a chance.

>>44469579
>IRyS New Years outfit in January
>IRyS 3D and 3D Live for her birthday and Holofes in March
>IRyS anniversary in July
>IRyS 1 million celebration and wish sometime 2023
>2023 will be IRyS's year and she will give HoloEN some hope and salvation. Trust the plan.
Interesting how none of these lived up to the hype.

>>44469513
>w-we can only compare streams with the same word in them
lol
come the fuck on

If we want to talk about ID 3ds, let's talk whether Kobo can get 87k. She's more popular than Moona, but do her ID kiddies care about 3d? Will first army give her a funnel?
PS: I don't consider any other ID to have a chance at Moona's numbers.

>>44469579
Anon you have to realize that IRyS is only gaining 3-4k subs per month atm. Even if she gets another redesign buff (which she won't) she'll still need multiple of those to hit 1mil this year.

>>44469572
calm the fuck down chumbud
if youre that insecure about your oshi's numbers choose an oshi that gets good numbers

So how is the EN schedule working tonight? Fauna is playing Minecraft at her normal time? And then bae overlaps 30 minutes later? They both stop at 8:00 EST for the Myth collab? And then that wraps up right before IRyS birthday?

>>44467756
>Defeats buff Mysta gaming stream
>Embarrasses and destroys Vox's buff asmr stream
Fauna GOLD. Oh yeah we're so fucking back. Fauna Chads can't stop winning.

>>44469518
Subs aren't important in here unless it's cope or bragging. They have benefits of course but they've never meant really anything in relation to ccv.

>>44469660
IRyS has solid and super consistent CCV and she is #1 in HoloEN for superchats. She is having a damn good year.

>>44469568
KYS nijinniger

>>44469579
irys literally has flare tier subgrowth. She'll be stuck at 900k for years

>>44469605
>HoloEN is their most popular branch

>>44469690
Yeah, like your oshis in NijiEN, right sister??? HAHA

>>44468869
That's exactly what it means when your estimated tax bill is way higher than you expected. This brat ended up walking away with even more money than she expected!

>>44468770
>5KRyS birthday
Anon Anya's birthday is this weekend...
>>44454408

>>44469614
>Blame EN for doing retarded skits.
Why would I blame Gura for doing skits when she already had two (2) 3d lives?

>>44468553
>this is what fauna could have been if she wasn't vegan or american
really makes you think.

Are we raided by discord trannies again? The shitposting and holo vs holo got worse

>>44469680
Kobo is a very mid singer and doesn't necessarily have the networking and confidence to get a bunch of JP girls to sing with her. I don't see her beating Moona but maybe she'd be able to beat Risu if she had a handful of decent guests. If it's all like..other IDs and Uproar and Kiara or whatever it's not gonna be great.

>>44467851
You know nobody cares about points when Fauna getting the top spot goes completely unnoticed.

>>44469693
Sounds about right, but Bae and Fauna probably will overlap Myth collab a bit

>>44469783
the indofags are getting uppity again

>>44469796
Because it's a 6k gold on a shitter tally, why would we?

>>44469745
Actually worse. Flare have 9k sub growth in 30 days while Irys only have 3k sub growth in 30 days.

>>44469796
>Beating the corpse of myth and a washed up MIA mumei
I mean

>>44469682
There will be an increase in subs after Holofes and for their 3D showcases. Not to mention a general increase in fan engagement during the summer with no school. Those will get her to the 980ish she needs and then she does the endurance and hits 1 million.

>>44469790
>Kiara
debuff

>>44469689
Wait no mindshare fauna beat kobo? KEK!

>>44469790
Anon...Kobo's songs are really popular. He karaoeks get clipped and viewed a lot too. She's very mini Gura in that regard too.

>>44469766
Damn, Gura does a lot of 3D stuff. Do you think they make the JPs wait outside with an umbrella for Gura to finish using the studio now that she's in Japan?

I'm gonna check the Enna drama. The shitposters are become worse at this hour.

>>44469689
First outfit for Kobo right?

>>44469895
>mini Gura
lmao

>>44469910

>>44469913
yeah. part of a relay at JP primetime too.

>>44467994
Detroit becime human is more a movie than a game

>>44469790
Okay but you agree that if anyone from the other ID gens are gonna get close to big numbers like Moona, it's gonna be Kobo, right?
Or who knows, maybe ID2/3 and Council will have worse numbers since they have worse JOP tourist mindchair.

>>44469799
Bae said she wants to watch the offcollab, Fauna will probably stop too to watch.

>>44469347
why the heck are you focusing so much on birthday merch? im talking about merch in general. birthday merch is standardized for everyone JP/EN independent of popularity.
anons said as if custom merch dont exist, i replied with examples that i could remember them existing. only en dont have custom merch

>>44469895
>mini gura
Eh more like salome. Huge at first then instantly reclined.

>>44469689
Did bae and mumei's outfits get cancelled or something

>>44469766
This, people keep getting mad it wasn’t a 3D live when it’s literally a showcase stream. It isn’t chumbuds fault that you didn’t get to see your oshi doing lives and appearing in like 6 other shows already

>>44469900
See I've been in /#/ enough to tell this is a shitpost but I can't tell what the fuck shitpost point you're trying to sarcastically make.

The other 2 Gura lives weren't recorded in Cover's studio, but I think you knew that.

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>>44469163
Miku > Nino >>>>> the other shitters >>>>>>>>> the girl that won
Worst girl literally always wins

>>44469817
kek

>>44469783
You see how some of them are hyping up Irys and others are saying that Fauna is going to win over her?
They are playing both sides so they can do their usual Fauna v Irys
Enna defending Kyo must have hurt them a lot

>>44469942
Bleeding asshole arc is best arc

Fauna vs Kobo, Gura vs Moona. Sisters... Vox, Luca, or Mysta might win cripple gold tomorrow, don't be too stingy

>>44470031
Chumbuds are still in this arc

>>44469790
anon, i don't really hate to break it to you but moona is also a mid singer

>>44469308
eeeeeeeeeeeew, the most pickme heroine

>>44470041
Actually based off her usual growth rates, there's a decent chance Fauna will hit 698k on Tuesday, which means she'd likely do a late night karaoke.
Would likely be a gold contender I imagine, unless there's a Myth collab that day too.

>>44470011
God enna was so fucking stupid for that.

>>44469950
Id2 will be lucky to break 20k
Id3 will get slightly worse numbers than their outfits
Council will get like ame tier numbers, with bae getting Kiara tier

>>44467453
>some Indo Sister immediately abandoned
wait are you talking about that lady who funds half of the Homos with akasupas?

>>44469950
Council will be at the same time Myth did theirs so don't expect anything special. ID2 will be in the middle of JP primetime with 0 overlap, so I would expect Anya to get about what Iofi got and the other two to be a bit higher. I think both Kaela and Zeta will easily beat ID2. Kobo might even beat all Myth but I still don't think she can reach Moona.

>>44470082
Every single of the so called “good singer” in Hololive sound like the most bog standard modern pop singer to me

>>44470154
not relevant to the argument

>>44469956
>anons said as if custom merch dont exist,
Mate, for fuck sake, do you respond to every retard saying easily provable retarded stuff?
>X EXISTS
is as correct as it is useless information when it is more than known that X obivously exists.
>EN don't have custom merch
I'm at a loss here. Is this about some subset of merch that was talked before?
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/5vgid5bwv6im
Didn't they put Petra and Chigusa hoodies for sale?

>>44470082
Exactly. People here only think moona is this great singer because they believed the bait from 3rd fes.

>>44469942
I hate nijiEN so much

>>44467453
>>44470145
I'm curious about this too, I know Tempus is bankrolled by literally like 8 people. Did one of them leave because of that?

>>44467569
It's almost all Lamy's audience, maybe around 2k extra JP Takos
EN Takos know when it's Ina hour, and 9pm Japan is not it.

>Kobo is a Vod queen
>most her vods are between 100-200k
I thought she was Miko teir at least come on kobo fags. Lets not forget that YouTube actually pays less for vod views if they come from a 3D world shit hole so she probably makes a lot less than a EN equivalent 100-200k stream

>>44467864
again, the things that got recommended were VODs, not LIVE streams.

Was there another yab from Niji or something? They couldn't be acting like this just cause Vox couldn't even pass fauna with his buff content while she debuffed herself right?

>>44467756
> 3 entries
why is this even called a "tally" at this point...

I honestly think that Kobo wont even come close to matching Moona's 3D showcase numbers because of she will definitely invite several JP and EN Holo stars as guest thus turning of a large majority of JOP tourist away from her stream

>>44470082
She's eh, I put her above kobo and below risu in ID
She's worse than alot of JP singers and also worse than IRyS, Gura and Mumei.
I'll probably put her in the bae/Kiara/mori tier

>>44470260
vox's last few ASMRs have been 6k streams. i don't get why people are shocked. it's funny because he had a meltdown once when 10k "people" "vanished" from his ASMR stream a few months ago.

>>44468687
and that was only thanks to some anon /here/ posting it, getting picked up by other anons, and becoming linked to "VTuber" in the backend, recommending it to several thousands.
Also that stream was basically on 24x7.

>>44470252
That's not true, is it? If I go on my homepage I usually see some live streams from people I'm not subscribed to. There's a lot more VOD recs though yes.

>>44469995
Gura's showcase was no doubt Pekora's favorite one since she likes silly game shows.

>>44470208
I think her karaokes give a much better picture of what her singing is like than just listening to high tide, which, while catchy, is not a hard song to sing.
She has trouble staying on pitch and her conrol is pretty weak overall.

>>44467756
>Gold is literally 50 view away from silver
In a way, this is way more competitive than global tally

>>44470311
>Kobo wont even come close to matching Moona's 3D showcase numbers because
you're hardcore retarded if you think so, anon. A proper 3D showcase without Myth's two-year delay debuff will beat Moona's. Yes, be it ID2, ID3, or Council, especially Kobo's

>>44470260
>>44470353
For reference:
Vox's last few ASMRs before today's:
2/4: 6,245
1/29: 5,583
1/28: 2,740
1/13: 6,020
1/08: 6,033
1/04: 3,943

>>44470041
>Vox, Luca, or Mysta might win cripple gold tomorrow, don't be too stingy
Anno...Irys birthday...Myth collab...Fauna turning on the stream...
How are the 5k shitter squad beating those?

>>44470409
That's honestly the only reason it even caught on to begin with, otherwise I'm pretty sure if it was JUST NijiEN losing 25-5 every month it would've been abandoned completely.

>>44470353
Still funny that Vox thought CCV was linear. "I got more subs now so my next karaoke should be even bigger!" Nothing better than seeing a faggot get dicksmacked by reality.

>>44470428
Ah nice cope chumbuds.

>>44470428
I find it hard to believe council will do any better than myth's 3d numbers. I do think kronii and mumei might get slightly above 50k but that's as high as I will go

>>44470100
mald all over it

>>44470428
Do you understand what beating Moona mean? It mean starting to step into First Army territory
I for once want to see if she can actually measure up, or if those subs of her are hollow

Since when did we have moonafics posting here?
Kobo is a better singer than Moona, all Moona has is power.
Moona also leeched off of Pekora but Kobo worked hard for an audience and brought it in all by herself.

>>44469163
I read the superior harem series where every girl wins and is best girl.

>>44467377
>he thinks IRyS took that kind of initiative
You’re getting a totsu and karaoke at best

>>44469790
Her music and singing is more popular than Moona or Risu. There would have to be a massive recline for her to not beat them.

>>44470428
you don't understand anon, he's preemptively coping because he knows that moona got a god funnel and he's not sure kobo will be as lucky, but admitting it would mean admitting that context matters.

>>44470495
Council is actually better statistically than myth nowadays.

>>44470495
It's hard to say for sure because we don't know how scarce CouncilRyS 3D content will be up until that point to consider the buffs.
But yeah, especially if they're in that same timeslot which they almost certainly will be, can't imagine anything going over 60k at the absolute maximum.

>>44470480
Nah, that would have still been fun. But without the seething Luxiem provided it wouldn't have ever been of equal and sometimes greater interest to the global tally. Doesn't help that Niji basically turned into "win by huge amount with a tournament or don't be competitive at all". And it's just whatever event Holo does or Pekora's default stream.

For those who missed, here is the
> 30 DAYS **MEDIAN OF PEAKS**, PER GEN / WAVE, EN MARKET
(The same one but with the true average will be posted later, in this very thread)

Here are some comments
1) Myth, with their 3D showcases and collabs, bounced right back up to over a 7k average
2) Council, after their very own eventful weeks with their outfits and the Japan Arc, returned to their (new) normal, also around 7k
3) Luxiem is experiencing a total collapse of their numbers, starting from mid August and dropping to almost half their peak, their lowest numbers since Feb 2022

then, the minors
4) Noctyx regained their #4 position, not because of any incline but because everybody else reclined below them
5) Lazulight and Obsydia continue above the 2k line, both down from their peaks but stable in their incline from their pre Luxiem numbers
6) Ethyria seems to have broken from their fall but they're right now at the lowest point of that wave since May 2022

then the midgets
7) Tempus reached their lowest point on record in the end of February and stabilized at that point
8) XSoleil, like Tempus, seems to have reached their floor around the end of February and stabilized
9) iLUNA is the wave that thought they had lost all numbers managed to lose the last bit of numbers they didn't even know they had

Notice that this is the **MEDIAN OF PEAKS**, which is heavily skewed by raids, Z peaks and similar artificial inflation of the peaks.
The same chart, but with the true average, will be posted later.

>>44470260
I mean, Vox and Mysta streamed in prime CN hours and Vox was doing ASMR. Them both losing to Fauna playing Penumbra is a humiliation.

>>44470260
Anon, look at the pattern of shitposting and how it started right as Gura's VODs finally passed Moonas.
It's chumbuds this time.

>>44470597
>iluna above 1k
haha take that, and you guys said they were dying, nice cope heh

>>44470208
>>44470382
Mostly, yeah. Moona is just loud and apes start shrieking thinking she accomplished something amazing.

Aviel, your solo debut star...

>>44470541
>Kobo worked hard for an audience and brought it in all by herself.
wat

>>44470536
and do you understand what a proper 3D showcase means? Kobo of all people couldn't beat Moona's 82k? Are we seriously discussing this?

>>44469307
Congrats anon, You've successfully proven that chumbuds are so easily to get triggered. I want to see their face when Vox and Mysta 3D showcases will mogged all of HololEN numbers lmao

>>44470571
Doesn't matter, the difference between Myth daily audience and Council is a few 1000. The difference in extended awareness and interest amongst very casual EN fans or JP fans is much larger.

>>44470372
Because you already watch them or people around them anon.
People who DON'T watch Holos will never ever get Holo STREAMS recommended to them, clips at the maximum.

>>44470643
oy gevalt

graduate all male Vtubers

>>44470428
Anon, assuming you're not speaking in shitpost terms, there is absolutely no fucking way anyone in Council is beating Moona.

Yes, Myth without blowing their 3d could do it (hell, Gura did it with the live, as much as shitposters want to deny it) but the unlimited power of getting JP primetime all to yourself for a 3d is too much. Council has never ,ever had JOP mindchair so JOPs have no reason to tune into their 3d debuts outside of regular tourism. Kronii might beat Gura (unless they give her the thursday timeslot cause she has the highest ceiling, like with Gura).

>>44470536
>It mean starting to step into First Army territory
Shut the fuck up, anon.

>>44470659

>>44470597
Myth only have 100+ more median ccv with 3D showcase buff?

>>44470640
>The same chart, but with the true average, will be posted later.
>negative slope
oh no no no

>>44470475
NijiEN will win Tuesday because they have a Monopoly collab up against HoloEN's nothing

>>44470541
All of ID are pretty crap singing wise desu. Only risu is noteworthy and all she has is range.
ID singers get mogged by like half of JP and the EN big 2 + non autist mumei

>>44470655
what will kobo's audience pull be like in 2 years?

>>44470736
Who are the participants?

>>44470597
Still wish you would separate the two Tempora.

>>44470590
When will the first CouncilRyS 3D live happen ? IRys’ anniversary?

>>44469942
Ehhh? Kimoi.

>>44470758
holostars audience

>>44470643
>EN debut
>speaks English about as well as the Israeli Gen did

i used to rule the world...

>>44470475
Mysta has a drinking stream. Sisters love those kind of stream. He might win.

>>44470645
Her sub growth speaks for itself, plus the fact that she brought in a ton of Kobo only viewers while Moona's CCV is in the dumps.

>>44470428
Like any competent shitposter, this anon mixes a little bit of truth with their disingenuous bait.
What is truth
>A proper 3D showcase without Myth's two-year delay debuff would get way better numbers
What is bait
>Saying that ID2 could beat Moona, even though the gap between Moona and Risu was greater than 20k
>Acting like it'd be an easy task for Council to beat Moona, who had buffs stacked upon more buffs
>Acting like just because Kaela gets higher CCV than Moona that she'd manage
>Acting like the mindshare Moona acquired from PekoMoon and Holofes could be trumped by anyone in ID aside from Kobo

>>44470655
>Kobo of all people couldn't beat Moona's 82k? Are we seriously discussing this?
Anon what you don't seem to understand is that Moona's numbers weren't fucking Moona's.
All of ID had the "JP primetime 3d debut to themselves" buff, but Moona had the "first army directly funneling and shilling her" buff, which is worth a lot more. The CCV median/average to ceiling isn't some magical thing that exponentially goes up, or Gura would have had 5x Kiara's numbers, Koyori 4x Lui's etc.

tldr: just cause you beat someone by 5k ccv doesn't mean your mega events will have 50k ccv discrepancies

>>44470597
Can we have gen 5 to ID3 of this?

>>44470655
Peko mobilized nousakeks for Moona. Kobo doesn't have that but she does have unprecedented ID mindchairs. There's enough room to speculate predictions
my vote is on MOONA NO SLIP

>>44469572
Based.

>>44470795
Honestly a good question. I feel like they'd want to group CouncilRyS' together honestly. So maybe they'll wait till Council's anni or something? IDK though that kind of shafts IRyS, and she certainly has been shafted by cover alot already.

>>44470428
Ah so it's still the same old ancient cope huh

>>44470850
I might get hit by a meteorite too. Probably won't, but I might.

>>44470324
>put her in the Bae tier
That is actually a really good comparison. Both of them are good singers, don't get me wrong. However both of them are usually ranked way higher than they should be because they sing loud and have a lot of power in their voice. That is a skill unto itself no doubt, but members like Risu and IRyS are superior technique wise.

>>44470643
Solo debuts have big numbers at 1st but then no gen unity to keep their numbers up afterwards
>But my Salome
She just had a waaaaaay much higher start to fall off from

>>44470795
no one knows. It'll probably come from one of bae, mumei or irys but we don't know when. I don't believe kronii/fauna have any intentions for a 3d live

>>44470795
Maybe, and then Mumei’s birthday.

>>44470495
>50k
No way. IF (only IF) the showcase is their very first 3D reveal, they would all beat Moona, 85-105k easily

>>44470939
>fall off
>20k is bad now

>>44470643
How does this compare to the other IdolENs?

>>44470848
Didn't some influencer boost her hard?

Holy number
>CSGO take top 1 for most toxic game
>2nd place is Valorant
No fucking wonder Vtuber don’t wanna make tournament out of Valorant

>>44470561
it's just so funny. I know they're shitposting, but some might actually believe that Myth's showcase numbers were legit.

>>44470839
I wonder what Vox thinks of these numbers, do you think he panics because of the dox information or he thinks people forgot he exists because of the break?

Singing is so fucking subjective I'm glad I have a numberfag. I'm comfortable with singing power levels by numbers.

>>44470850
Unless he invites the ghost of shu it aint happening

>>44470928
Those are the actual numbers without cull.

>>44470624
>>44466979
>chumbuds
When you're the one crosspost seething over here

>>44470771
Pomu, Rosemi, Fulgur, Doppio.
5k or 6k maybe?

>>44470925
Theu should do them right after Holofes if they are smart.

>Myth offcollab at Cover studio with proper microphones
oh no
can you guys feel it?
the air is filled with...surprise
this will be another unadvertised 3d

>>44470541
Kobo got extremely lucky.

Maybe it's time fauna took a break since she pretty much carrying the dead corpse that is EN on her back.

>>44470839
Both trash ASMR streams.

>>44471027
Since he has a gf now it probably doesnt worries hima that much. But when he breaks up his psyche will again be thrown into the floor

>>44471104
>this will be another uneventful collab
ftfy

>>44470624
Why would chumbuds even care? I mostly only watch Gura and Mumei but I'm way more concerned about the Myth 3D than gura's 3d showcase. Then again, I can't understand most of the shitposters reasoning.

>>44470935
>Risu and IRyS are superior
None of their original songs have more views than Moona's.

>>44471116
Maybe it's time you learn english

>>44471091
Yeah 6/5k.
Even bae minecraft might beat them

>>44470928
>>44471088
found the seether. imagine seething this bad, you're inserting chumbuds into a ID/Council discussion

>>44470643
I wonder how much she got paid to join

>>44471091
Sounds about right. Like half of Pomu and Rosemi's audience dips out of male collabs (and Pomu isn't streaming it anyway) and the other two are pretty meh as far as audience goes.

>>44471034
Eh. It's subjective to an extent but you can grade singers purely by technical ability if you really wanted to. That's not really how singing works tho.

>>44471192
That's on Wednesday

>>44470974
>20k from a buff stream is “good”
Salome is a jap she gets judged at a higher standard than ID or EN. 20k is nothing if Gen 5 can get them too, fuck Kanata has had more 20k streams than Salome this year

I'm less interested in IRyS' CCV and more interested in how hard her paypigs are going to show up. She didn't do a countdown stream either.

>>44471179
>I mostly watch only gura and mumei
I feel bad for you, get an oshi that actually cares and streams consistently without delaying every stream

>>44471210
>Jews paying upfront
Nah this isn’t vshojo with their $11 million. Contract was probably just riddled with incentives that she wasn’t ever going to reach

>>44470643
Jew thought Russian Walmart Gura was gonna be such a hit he even let her directly tie her past identity to this one lmao

Any update with the acrylic stands?

>>44471278
>get an oshi
retard

>>44470187
Petra and Chigusa isnt custom merch, its company made without their input. all part of the series of merch that exists since 2020, which had kuzuha, sasaki, shiina and some acessories for other members too outside of clothes

>>44470989
I haven't seen Jew Gura and the British with less than 500 viewers

People really underestimate ID2 and Councilrys.
ID2 will still have the JP primetime and all of ID2 got good amount of network with the JP girls while ID1 only got Moona with Pekora which is still huge.
Councilrys got Mumei/Bae/Irys which are good singers, Fauna is a Lamy and Kronii got big boobs.
Though seriously Councilrys also got a decent number of JP girls they are close to yes even Kronii which is close to Polka.
EN box might heal also since EN3 will come soon and Gura will stream more - This is more of COPE.

>>44471278
Chumbuds watch HoloJPs too tho

>>44471278
>I feel bad for you
I don't think about your oshi at all.
>b-but my oshi streams every day
She's no one if *I* don't watch her.