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Toya's 5th anni is gonna be beaten by a random pekora minecraft tomorrow...
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>>44460036Nah, Toya's probably gonna get gold. I don't see any other gold contenders
>>44457813there is a myth offcollab later?
GRIM
>>44459949fans reflect the streamer.
>>44460026Marine is revolting
>>44459782>And last, but not least, HonhimaBro I think you missed Akabane.
>>44459835Why is she moving in yt?
What are the projected numbers for IRyS? I think she will do pretty good since she gets a direct funnel from the myth offcollab
Surely this thread will be better
>>44460093Yeah. On Kiara's channel, so expect about 5k
Holofes SOON
>>44459868Doesn't make sense tbdesu, but then again they chose to sabotage EN so
>>44460099I think he is right. Kiara never ghost her fans, and she streams regularly. This is something that is very rare as a holoEN.
>>44460145It's not too bad since anons seem to have taken their meds during the 6h break
>>4446014615k max
>>44460161full myth or just some myth members? if it's full myth it should be around 12k +/-2k
>>4446014612k
>>44460117>Bro I think you missed Akabane.She didn't have enough streams in 2022 to provide enough datapoints (only 36), that doesn't make for a good 30 days average chart
I just noticed the problem was not Pekora in PekoMiko ship, it was Miko.Now the same thing happen again Micomet...
IRyS birthday stream will be less then 10k. I bet my right nut.
>>44459993she also called out the newfags for not knowing why she allowed that kek
>>44460036That is assuming she gonna play MC and not delegate the gold race to Marine or Miko
>>44460161Easy 40k for myth. Stop underestimating the generation of miracles.
>>44460232What happened, now? Did she rape suityan?
>>44460126No! Im not gonna watch your oshi!
>>44460188anon we've been over this, Goobers is the abusasive GFE
what was irys last birthday numbers? is 20k possible? has any council even hit 20k with their birthdays before?
>>44460161Between 20k and 30k because is Kiara channel. Could be even lower if Kiara and Mori are the ones with the Microphone meanwhile we can't hear Ame, Gura or Ina.
>>44460146>assuming any will funnel
>STREAMS OVER 5k IN THE EN MARKET TODAYplus Ame.>GRIMGANG ASSEMBLE!?(saplings need not apply)
>>44460026/news/ anchorReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from the last thread:>RE:ACT's new gaming group is debuting, starting tomorrow.https://www.twitter.com/Re_AcT_/status/1632682437561188352>Nijisousaku circles list released. Also an extra event will be held in October.https://twitter.com/nijisanji_only/status/1632237023028445186https://twitter.com/nijisanji_only/status/1632237025184325633>Hololive x Dodecamin collab featuring Subaru, Miko, Okayu & Pekora https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1632576736922615808>More info on the Good Smile Company collab at HoloFeshttps://twitter.com/gsc_goodsmile/status/1632652255978553344?s=20
>how to turn a thread into shit
>>44460099I mean... you are always eating well if you like eating shit
>>44459949>>44460099kek unironically. She really went out her way to reply to a single comment that praised ONLY her in Myth 3d collab. They really reflect each other like a mirror.
>>44460126i don't know, why holos went from nnd to yt?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/11jor76/stop_slandering_pikamee_the_post_was/jb4wsun?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3Can someone here do me a favour and shit on this retard here? I am banned from this sub
>>44460289Kiara channel.
>>44460227I see. Thanks for the charts. I kinda feel like Sasaki is the one with the highest ccv without having any data to back up and it is nice to see that my hunch is correct. Also overall there is no obvious incline or decline for them, which is.... actually a bit worrying because the industry itself is growing.
Tick tock, sisters. T-minus 15 minutes.
>>44460387NijiEN can boast about not being last lol
>>44460289Pfffff
>>44460321Irys birthday was 20k, kronii birthday was 25k, mumei birthday was 28k
>>44460424not your personal army.
>>44460424NYPA. gas yourself
>>44460424Just make a throwaway account, coward
>>44459997>For as much grief Nijisanji gets, they don't have that many 3 views: "only" 19 out of the 101 streamers>1 out of every 5 being a 3view shitter isnt many
Holo EN3 Announcement is in 15 minutes. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe.
>>44460424Neck yourself.
what ASMR to listen to for my EOP ass?no, i won't listen to fauna.i don't like her stuff
>Kiara badOk it's been 3 days, go back to wherever you came from.
>>4446016120k max maybe even lower
>>44460321Mumei 28kKronii 25kFauna 20k
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1632767729160847361 Numbers.....
>>44460394>pickme behaviorpart and parcel really
>>44460321>2022 Councilrys birthdays:Sana: 13.459Bae: 19.591Irys: 20.211Fauna: 20.405Kronii: 25.202Mumei: 28.009 totsu + 21.228 prebirthday karaoke
>>44460360Sister... You promised Vox 15-20k return buff+ASMR stream >>44451126
>>44460533are they doing it on Kiara's channel because it basically has no growth?
>>44459782she went for a long hiatus and everyone left her.
>>44460533>Gotta sleep soon so I can get up in timeDon't they live in the same building?
>>44460452Fauna also had 20k.
>>44460360Amelia the dolt coulda got 5k if she played with new music tracks before sc reading rather than during the sc reading that tanked her down aieeee
>>44460426? Kiara is one of the best host of hololive. She's also a huge buff for collab/offcollab
>>44460333This was unironically one of the days where we started noticing that nijiEN's recline wasn't going to stop
>>44460533>Myth OffcollabMore Likely: Takamori OffCollab with 3 background characters who we can't even hear their voices.
how hard is it for people to stick to schedulesis this why more than half of holoen gave up on them
>>44460433>actually a bit worrying because the industry itself is growing.It is natural for established streamers to reach their natural point, it is Holos that distort the whole thing with their unbelievable rate of growth for their daily live audience.Here is the combined per branch chart again, the type of loyalty from Holo audience in the JP branch is unparalleled when talking about a 36 girls ensemble
>>44460566sana...
>>44460360now THAT is G R I M
>>44454622So did Laplus reflect on her past actions and is truly back?
>>44460497What? If it gets announced it'll be 10AM JST on a Tuesday.
>>44460618maybe with cover audio levels
>>44459949KFPs are always salty about the other fanbases being more popular, nothing new to see here
>>44460618>She's also a huge buff for collab/offcollabyeah when she is muted lol
>>44460566Cover really has bad luck with their hires huh, the two with the highest ceilings are the laziest fuckers
Fauna GOLD?
>>44460618Then they could change the name as :TakaMori Offcollab, becaus we won't hear Ame, Ina and Gura again thanks to her fucking memememmememememem voice.
>>44460573Because she’s the only one who organizes the collabs. Collab organizer hosts collabs.
>>44460524What do you want? JO material or just a comfy gfe asmr?
>>44460573Don't think so much. She organized it, is all.
>>44460721So the new Nijinigger tactic is calling Mumei lazy huh.
>>44460726somehow, yes.
>>44460637>how hard is it for people to stick to schedulesThat's the pedestrian take. The true question is>how hard is it for people to stick with a consistent streaming paceIt doesn't need to be>every weekday at 6PM, every weekend at 1PMlike some JP girls, it could EASILY be Gura's MWF plan as long as people could count on a stream in a certain day in a certain slot with enough consistency to form a habit around it.
>>44460490Hey, it's similar to the $9.99 shit salesmen are pitching for their products. I cannot believe I fell for that strat. My mind went <10%. But I forgive the anon. He probably fell on that same trap.
>>44460643Can you do NijiEN, HoloEN, and HoloID per gen?
>>44460655Come back with that question 2months from now
>>44460026I love the recent trend of putting holos in different outfits from other holos
>>44460777calling her lazy is abit far but she definitely isn't the most hardworking person out there
>>44460594They'll probably do it at Calliope Mori's house.
less tan 16k more than 13k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2oc1fbelG8predict numberwill IRyS get bigger number than Bae?
>>44460819You can thank the NYmedley for that
>>44460497The next Holo generation is 6 members, 3 EN and 3 JP.
>>44460748comfy stuff.if i want JO stuff, i'd unironically go to JP voice works or listen to tiger's stuff (adult VA Tiger)
>>44460643All I can see in this is1. HoloJP inclined2. HoloEN reclined3. HoloID inclined4. NijiJP and NijiEN pretty much hit their baseline again5. Vspo acquired MetIncline and decline seems like not a given even from this graph, not to mention overall audiences definitely grow over the years.
>>44460823what's she in college for again? archeology or some shit that goes into the field?
>>44460585Yeah, yeah, Nijitrannie. We all know what it was don't try to hide it, it's pathetic.
>>44460846HYPE HYPE HYPE. Myth showcasing their unparalleled unity.
>>4446084915-20k
>>44460849Probably.
>>44460394Sometimes I'm glad Kiara is the least popular EN it makes her appreciate every single viewer in an equal way and it makes her humble, if she was Gura levels of popularity her ego would've been through the roof
>>44460635Nah. Mori already improved herself. Unless, Kiara stays being retarded and it will become Chicken and the background noise with some occasional brapping.
>>44460849>right after the off collablet's see if she can catch the funnel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZ0Zwab6Oc70M soon pokechads
>>44460849She should get a nice funnel from myth and fauna
>>44460902What did Aqua's husband do to Honhima?
>>44460232Don’t be vague, say what you mean.
my cute wife
>>44460846Kiara please Mute yourself
6 more minutes till EN3 premiere countdown
>>44460893something something about marine biology or something
>>44460846>300K escort channelAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>44460849If she sings.
>>44460232Suisei literally just talked about going overseas on vacation with miko? Maybe it’s time to admit that peko is insufferable
>>44460949axia, the kirito clone
>>44460902I think I know what Panda did, but what does Kirito have to do with it?
>>44460974Give it a rest, anon.
Couldn't Cover just ask for a $10M loan from the bank instead of going IPO?
>>44460026Another day, another HoloGoldFeels good to be a HoloChad
>>44460930A lot people complained about that in chat last time. And she never know why others fans from myth hate her.
>>44460885Here you go bro https://www.youtube.com/live/-jF2X8qIRt4?feature=share
>>44460974>Theyre waiting for you in the other side
>>44460893Something like marine biologist IIRC. Doesn't matter, though, she said she is taking a break from college. It's just a matter of recovering from whatever (literal) mental issue she has
>>44460891>4. NijiJP and NijiEN pretty much hit their baseline againfunny way of saying recline to oblivion
>>44460916meanwhile gura is an autistic girl who doesn't even dare look at her own numbers, but she gets numbers anyway. It's weird how things work.
>>44460635>who we can't even hear their voices.That would require them to speak
>>44460891>saying that holoen reclined while avoiding saying niji jp and en reclinednot so fast nijifag
>>44460146Around Bae's number, so ~15k
>>44460846Why is it always kiara or mori's channel?Who asked for this?
>>44460721Maybe, just maybe, their profit-sharing scheme favored towards the talents too much. This problem is also in JP but is magnified in EN.Yagoo has to restructure so that it compels and encourages them to stream.
>>44460566And to think Gura didn't even call into Mumei's birthday
My cute daughter
What do you think kiara thinks of the other girls?
>>44461072yeah i know that, was just curious because she mentioned having to wait for shit due to the rona.
How come Fauna's ASMRs are a constant incline while Vox's become fused into the ground?
>>44461035This was an opportunity for the investors that've been around since the early days to cash out, who might've been eager to do it since Anycolor's investors began to bail ship.
You know things are bad when Vox's RP asmr barely scrapes 6k
>>44460902I fucking hate nijisanji especially EN. I only like Honhima but let's be realistic she went for a hiatus and knowing niji audience they all left for the next big thing since there is no such thing as a chuuba loyalty to them
>>44460552>pickme
>>44461068>share linksorry anon, i don't trust those because i can't see the title of the stream, or the thumbnail.please try again
>>44461136Organiser privileges. Ask Gura or Ina to organise a collab if you want numbers
>>44461035>Asking for a loan when all the countries are raising interest rates like fucking crazySmartest /#/ poster
>>44461083They still have room to recline though? Oh ya forgot to mention HoloEN hit its all time low in February. The best part? Non of the talent cares.
>>44461014Yeah, that's why she's having so many PekoMari collabs.
>>44461184Dammit! I'll get you next time, anon!
>>44461072>mental issueShe's had a physical one since forever too
>>44460643Huh so nijisanji jp and en is both reclining and stagnating huhnot surprising given how hololive is more mainstream in jp now
>>44461185That would require Gura or Ina PCs. They can't with their shitty laptod
>>44461136Because they are the only ones who organizes shit in EN
>>44461070Dumb frogposter
>>44461159Because NijiCN kept yabbing. The sisters are too busy leaving or infighting.
FAUNA (cripple) GOLD>CUXIEM SLIPPEDFAUNA (cripple) GOLD>CUXIEM SLIPPEDFAUNA (cripple) GOLD>CUXIEM SLIPPED
>>44461136she is the host I guessalso >Will the members successfully gaslight each other?it sounds like it's going to be shit
>>44461167remember when he cried about 10k viewers vanshing mid-ASMR stream?
>>44461153Gura - jealous Ina - coworkerMori - idk anymore Mumei - friend Fauna - friendAme - coworkerIrys - they hate each other/just prefer to avoid one another Kronii - coworker?Bae - coworker
>>44461227Kiara's also using a laptop, no?
>>44460227Got more for any of the Holo JP girls besides Kanata?
>>44461127Bruh in that graph HoloEN started at 9k but ended at 7k.NijiEN started at below 2k, ended at below 2k.NijiJP started at below 4k, ended at below 4k.I don't see how I am wrong in my original statement.
>>44460849Depends. Pros:>IRyS has better numbers than Bae usually>Should get some funnels from Myth off-collabCons:>Didn't hype the birthday at all. AFAIK, she only talked about it during her streams according to IRystocrats in /hlgg/ and a few Twitter posts, so a lot of non-IRyStocrat probably aren't even aware of this >No totsu mentioned yet so there probably won't be any JP calling in. Council + some of Myths at most, perhaps>In fact, no idea what she is going to do...Probably will get 14-15k at least (unarchived karaoke number). Don't think she will get more than 20k (her last birthday number), thoughDoes it kill her to shill her own birthday?
>>44461204>Oh ya forgot to mention HoloEN hit its all time low in February.so did niji en and jp from the looks of itbut then again the situation is more grim on the group thats nearer to the 3view territory
>>44461136They're the ones who need to leech from their more likeable genmates.
>>44461199Japan will literally never not have cheap money, their entire economic system is based on it.
>>44461167>>44461159Vox and Luxiem in general reclined into oblivion in just a few months somehow
Honestly it's way to soon for en3 it would be screwing over the new tempus members especially since they legit just got started and en3 would take attention away from them when their still growing.
>>44461101If Gura had Kiara's mentality holo EN wouldn't recline.
FINALLY LUNA
>>44461235not true ame also organizes shit, but only when homo are involved
>june for sure>july for sure>october for sure>november for sure>december for sure>january for sure>holofes4 for sure
>>44460846>Myth off collab in their sex outfitsYup, I'm thinking we're back bros. The ceiling is the limit. Must I Say Based or what.
where did NijiHomo fans go?did they really leave luxiem?
>>44460643Every time I see this graph I'm reminded that holoEN's situstion, whilst bad, isn't nearly as grim as anons here are making it out to be. Seems like a genuine lack of interest due to a lack of events.
what the fuck is that bump? it's like 1k viewers just dropped for 2 minutes and suddenly came back
>>44461341Amelia was the driving force behind most event collabs before 2022
>>44461323Good. We need tempus to die sooner than later
>>44461294so why dont you say all 3 reclined intern kun? or are you still astroturfing here trying to mask the irrelevance of nijisanji?
>>44461325If Kiara had half the charm Gura has, her numbers wouldn't be grim.
>>44461035Their investors probably compelled him to do IPO so that they can sell their shares, especially since they are startup investors, and Cover is too big to stay as a startup company. Maybe it is time for them to cash out to invest for another startup ventures again.
>>44461365From how the sisters posts in vt it seems like most of them left for Tempus.
>>44461325what a retard. If gura had kiara's mentality she wouldn't have blown up in the first place.
>>44461153>meme
>>44461321Seriously, it's unbelievable to see it. I wonder what happened? Something must have gone wrong in chinatown
>Not one but TWO small corpo recently debuted pink loli vtubers with overlapping timeslots They crippled each other
So, what caused the 8 hour outage this time?
>>44460891>Vspo acquired MetWhat do you mean???.
I will tune in to the Myth offcollab but only because it would be funny it would be funny if it got higher CCV than Kiara's showcase.
>>44461397Weak numbers, if pekora streams minecraft tomorrow, this won’t win gold
>>44461449basically a transfer
>>44461416Did Zeta already pass Fauna in subs?
>>44461457literally impossible
>>44461419I don't think so but they must have went somewhere
>>44461446Trannies
>>44461227Kiara asked Mori for her setup, since she's on a laptop
>>44461417The problem is that making your company publicly traded leaves you vulnerable to certain tactics. A lot of these investors are quite vicious and can plummet a company into the ground for a few cents of profit
>>44461264The fuck did IRyS do to Kiara?
>>44461167they're not doing as well as expected :/
>>44461441Repeatedly pissing off sisters, b2 pulling out losing them their preferential treatment and domestic competition eating their lunch
>>44461408Fine, all 3 reclined.Fuck man, you happy now?
>>44461441Luxiem was a disappointment for the Chinese sisters and they were also the ones propping up NijiEN
>>44460643Do you have one for Pekora alone?
>>44461509good thing they arent selling majority control anon
Genuine question, what’s the appeal of holoEN?
>>44461498what?
>>44461205Marine being a hag is just more capable of handling someone like Pekora, Marine and Flare just know to stay out of Pekora's way as much as they can and wait for Pekora to come. Migo is way too immature to do that.
>>44461449We sportsball now
>>44460552>Female hands
>>44461562they don't do this sort of thing
>>44461441they keep doing the "own the haters" but the "haters" were just an average chink sister. Eventually they got tired of it
>>44461359You missed february
>>44460146I could have sworn the same thing was said for her Hitman. Anyways 9k.
>>44461365back to kpop or whatever they were following
>>44461562Genuine answer: The blue dorito. And Gura.
>>44461441Sisters left luxiem for luxiem at home and the nijien females are too untalented and unentertaining to grow
>>44461562cute talented girls having fun, the same as any other hololive member
>>44460387Unityfag here. Requesting global average trackingI want to see if the entire scene is getting bigger or not.
>>44461562Idk i wish theyd do react content and collab with all the western indies instead of living under a rock and get with the times because english audiences do NOT want what holo offers
>LUXIEM DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS EXPECTED>LUXIEM DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS EXPECTED>LUXIEM DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS EXPECTED
>>44461549Still, shortsellers exist. If they take an interest in your company they can drive the price lower and lower, until your board of directors screams in pain and fires the CEO or does whatever will make them short term gains. There's a lot of stock market drama that goes down, and this is essentially opening up the company for all that nonsense. It's not the worst idea to go public but just understand that it leaves you vulnerable for tactics.
>>44461607And even with EN3 they'd be at 15 members, not 30 or whatever NijiEN's up to now.
>>44461498 (me)Sorry, mistyped 2 letters
I have a feeling after this whole pikamee debacle this board is gonna get an influx of new jannies
>>44461509It would be interesting to know who will invest in cover.
>>44461436It's unironically hilarious seeing nips call other cultures self-centred, vapid, perfidious and two-faced tbqh. Like fuck me the lack of self awareness from the shelter little dudes.
>>44461664HoloEN couldnt support 30 members maybe 20 if they can build up slowly.
>>44461562cute girls not talking about about cum and cock 90% of the stream. Also some of them have some kind of >idol journey arc that makes people root for them
>>44461661Switch it to Noctyx if you wanna shitpost
>>44461663they can only do that if they actually get enough shares anon andd weve already seen how much cover is willling to sell and its pretty low to the point that it looked like a scam
>>44461562CGDCT
>>44461647>That avatarMy sides.
>>44461481
>>44461663They're selling like 5% of their total stock IIRCIronically, with the startup investors selling their shares, Yagoo and co may actually end up with more overall power, depending on how diluted the public ownership is
>>44461669Never respond to me again you colossal faggot
>>44461661Yeah, Cuxiem, Nocshyt and ESPECIALLY Fatgur didn't do as well as expected.
>>44461321It's been longer than that, they started reclining around July/August of 2022, but it was masked by buffs like the anniversary and the various returns. It just accelerated after December.
>>44461598I buy into the rrat that Pekora is just passively intimidating. Like she just look intimidating doing everything and that's why most girls stay out of her way
>>44461663Anon just stop talking about corporations, you clearly have no idea how they work
>>44461441>Luxiem x kfc mega collab that will incline them to heaven.>cricket*I think even nijisis ashamed to give number on how many store that did that collab.
>>44461759Sora will purchase all of those 5%
>>44461531>the fuck did IRyS do to KiaraGet announced on her birthday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHsYJWtdgggnumber?
>>44461321Not just vox and luxiem even nijijp is reclining and is only masked by their nijitourist events
>>44461704>Idol journey arcDoes NijiEN have any story arc going on? They're not idols, what are people supposed to root for?
>>44461509It seems that the company is still under Yagoo's control, so investors cannot really control the direction of the company without Yagoo's approval.And I bet wealthy holofags will be happy to become the floor, if they do exist.
>>44461840>BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAABENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA>BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAABENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA>BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAABENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA>BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAABENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
Irys you retard you could have gotten double gold if you just did a birthday countdown stream as well.
when was their last tick?
>>44461562cute girls like ina, gura, mumei and bae
>>4446184030k
>>44461873Ame ticked around her birthday after not having ticked since October, no?
>>44461794I'm pretty sure Gura was also terrified of Pekora until the Rust interaction. There's just something about that crazy rabbit that scares people
>>44461840>>44461869nosesex>benisex
>>44461562this >>44461901 but without bae
>>44461901Kys brrat
>>44461436>japanese people apologize honestlyL M A O More like a public spectacle and theatrics
>>44461873For amelia a bit over a month ago and half ago or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBNRT2CV8pEWhy the fuck is this VOD of Kanata approaching 1M views? I scrolled through it, nothing really happens.
>>44461704This. Idol Journey shit is the reason why I love JP. Cute girls working hard to achieve their goals. EN just doesn’t have that drive >but Kiara Yea but Kiara is unlikeable and annoying
>>44461862>Does NijiEN have any story arc going on?Clique war arc thats been going on forever
>>44461753TICKTOCK
>>44461442Kiki is good while Riro is a washed up hag
>>4446184020k gallons of cum spilled
>>44461873Same time as haachama iirc
>>44461766(you)
who can we swap mori kronii amelia and bae for from nijien
>>44461862>what are people supposed to root for?for the Family
>>44461663Yagoo still owns more than 50% of the company and will continue doing so. No one can tell him how to run his company.
>>44461562
>>44461872Was busy cleaning her room, preparing for some sort of 3D (smol 3D?) for a while and making thumbnail just now, I believe. Probably was too bad at organizing and scheduling so she didn't have time to start an actual stream
How come IDs have such a steady growth potential but no real incline?
>>44462028None of them you fucking nijinigger
>>44460655>So did Laplus reflect on her past actions and is truly back?>clocking in at exactly 2hNah, she didn't reflect on shit, she's still her old self
>>44461705Neither can Nijisanjk. I'm saying that even with EN3 holoEN will get more support than anyone in NijiEN. They'll also be part of hololive, not have to form their own secluded group because there simply are too many talents.
>>44461913I think that is just typical introverts>Always look serious because they always have to think about how to interact with people>Rarely talk so they just do things in silence>Move like a ghost, keep human interactions to a minimumI am one, and I have received compliment from kids that I seem scary to them
>>44462028nobody because as bad as those 4 are nijien females are a lot worse
>>44461963>Clique war arcEven their arcs are rehashes of the same old NijiJP shit we have seen already, just like their handcam and tourney spam
I have some unfortunate news. EN 3 announcement has sadly been delayed by over a day. See you guys later. But remember to keep on believing bros. EN3 will surely happen. Have faith. In Yagoo we trust.
>>44461913she's terrified of everyone though. She's even terrified of Towa
>>44462028enna, rosemi and selen
>>44461753One of the weirder trends recently, I assume it's Kobo giving a bunch of subs to the other IDs. Moona has had good sub growth recently too and she hasn't even been doing anything notable, unless you count the ID kimonos.
>>44462039What? I can swear I saw somewhere that he's only owning 30-40 something percent
>>44461840It doesn't seem that long ago that Beni got her bunnygirl sex costume. That one will be tough to beat.
>>44461960>Yea but Kiara is unlikeable and annoyingI already come to term that kiara is austria.
>>44461753Kobo is literally ID first year Gura in terms of her effect on her gen (and branch to a lesser extent) wrt sub growth
>>44462124Yeah, sister, this time NijiAR will be revealed fr fr.
>>44462028I am tired of those hypotheticals.Some will say Rosemi, Pomu, Selen. That's it.Thinking about it will only make oneself more frustrated, like the Rosemifag who spammed about the blue dorrito buff.
>>44462146
>>44462134>discount irys>discount mumei>discount baeyeah no thanks not even nijifags find them that entertaining which is why they tab out a minutes into their streams most of the time
>>44462028none
>>44462129Gura being terrified of males is nothing unusual
>>44461862>Pomu tits cutting arc>Nina EU fucktrip>ALL OUT WAR LOL>L + Ratio Parasocial fuck>Nina vs millie&enna or whoever it was>Ren tweetleeching arc>Voxx "I'm not your boyfriend" arc featuring Reimu>We are /here/ stream>Zaion suspension>EnnaxKyo×Luca cuckfest
>>44462223>discount irysNot so fast IRyStopleb.
>>44462223Enna is better than your ugly whore, irystocrap.
>>44461913She's still shy around her. Pekora really wants to sing with her though.
>VOD views vs CCVVOD views is something that heavily relies on the Youtube algorithmCCV is something that heavily relies on your fanbase and their urge and dedicationAny video could get very high views but no streamer can easily get high CCVCCV is more important than VOD
>>44460036He is not like Gura. He won't be defeated so easily.
>>44462206>like the Rosemifag who spammed about the blue dorrito buff.Kek I found that retards logic funny>the only reason why nijifans are leaving the niji livers streams 15 minutes in is because they dont have the blue dorito logo, if they had the blue dorito logo then nijifans would stick around longer
>>44461479>TransferOh... Does that mean it's possible for Cover to transfer Kronii to Vshojo where she rightfully belongs?? Based.
>>44462144Yagoo and his inner circle owns around 58% of the company.
>>44462221>>44462146We get is already, nijinigger-kun
>>44461794Nah, just really introverted.https://youtu.be/zhypymCEeXgMigo being borderline obssessive to her friends dont help either. They had the same jobs since before though so they were probably really good friends
>>44462144According to some anons, the one tech company that invested in Cover is also owned by Yagoo, and one or two chick investors are Yagoo's puppets. Some retards claim they are Sora and A-chan. Might be real.But I don't know about the veracity of those claims.
>>44462144he meant yagoo and his cover buddies
>>44461442>'people' thought that thing would be a good holoen candidateWonder how much aviel shelled out to get her
>>44462028rosemi, pomu, selen and petra
>>44461416damn, that was a good outfit reveal, sadly she was overlapped by the one and only top ID youtuber forgot his name
>>44462098That doesn't sound like a compliment
>>44462304>CCV is more important than VODlol not on youtube which is why the emphasis even for advertisers are vods
>>44462304and then there are Fauna and IRyS that can't get good VOD views ever. Unless it's an ASMR for Fauna
>>44462146but /vt/ told me Gura had the worst 3D showcase, why do people keep re watching it?
>>44462304Streams get pushed by the algorithm retardGOD and if any video could get very high views how come JP just don't get big VODs given the massive financial and algorithmic benefits it has for your channel?
>>44461321>>44461441Vox reclined around November. He had an extremely strong month in October with a 49k return karaoke and a bunch of 10k+ streams and then completely fell off. Ever since he really struggled to break 10k, with only the Luxiem anni getting 40k before the entire NijiEN branch crushed into the dirt.And the ironic thing is that we still don't fucking know why it happened, sure there were yabs here and there but nothing that would suggest losing 30k viewers overnight.This is why investing in foreign markets especially schizphrenic ones like China is not a good idea in the long run.
So why is everyone acting like Zion Queen of Jews was already terminated?
>>44462271>>44462286enna is still discount irys
>>44462028i honestly wouldn't mind rosemi. she reminds me alot of mumei near debut.i would've said enna a few months ago but now uh... yea no
>>44462256>>Nina vs millie&enna or whoever it waswhat?
^>vodcoep
>>44462179>austriaSweden should've kept on bullying central Europe, not fuck of to Russia for decades. Turkey was their ally ffs
>>44462144Yes. Sora and A-chan own the rest of it
>>44462406Because she's acting like she got fired.
>>44462221
>>44462304They're both strong metrics to show success
>>44462366because Youtube is a video platform and only vtubers care about the streaming side of it.... hence its a bigger achievement to get high CCV in a mostly video platform
>>44460846I really wish I cared about Myth or Council. I just want a EN gen that is as close as Sankisei.
>>44462304>CCV is more important than VODMoona with her 80k average CCV mogs the shit out of Gura.
>>44462308Probably the same guy that said selling more concert ticket will bankrupt them.
>>44462406She’s liking comments on her vod about how she gave Niji a shot and at least she got exposure out of it.
>>44462286if she's that good, then where's your membership?
>>44461957The inner machinations of the YT algo are an enigma
>>44462413leading up to ethryia anniversary, she said how she was alienated from her own branch or some shit. was kinda dumb and funny because it was a couple days away from their anniversary. of course they say theyre better now, though.
>>44462144yagoo owns 33% while his puppets own 15-20
>>44461599Interesting. Did vspo disclose how much Met was worth?
>>44461840IMAGINE>TWO (2) VSPO GOLDS
>>44462456Why would it be a bigger achievement to be a big fish in a small pond? Getting 1-2m+ per upload like the big boys would be a much bigger achievement akin to taking it up to those black dudes on twitch.
>>44462457Council is closer than any JP gen besides Gokisei.
>>44462365Yeah sorry, I am mistaken
>>44462390>re watchingthey are just watching it for the first time 4.2M subs spread across the world vs 1.2M
>>44459868Would fuck up their branding on many levels, for one Tempus is already too big with 8 dudes and probably more on their way. What I'm actually affraid of is that they want it to be the same universe with Council as "gods", Myth monsters, Tempus humans and then you have whatever the new girls suppose to be. They all follow some sort of fantasy theme no androids or robots etc. so I bet omega at least thought about it.
>vox and mysta slipped to Fauna with their buff contentHahahahahaha
>>44462393its a bigger achievement to reach 30k CCV than 300k views... in Youtube sphere you wont even be on a radar with views this low
>>44462028Sana for SelenFinal offer
>>44462409Who would you swap then
>>44462576B-B-B-But muh KFC!!!!
>>44462406Her Niji Streamlabs account was closed
>>44462406>her official niji streamlab is gone>updated her rm's twitter bio>liking comments about moving on from her rm account
>>44462406I mean she not even being discreet. Her discord, her pl, her comment on her last pl video. She most likely in niji jail, just waiting until her suspension expired and "graduate".
>>44462456Youtube being a video platform is the reason why vod is more important than ccv anon If the vtubers actually cared about streaming they would have gone to twitch instead where ccv is king and is the one that gets boosted and buffed.
There seems to be retarded ass brats here, why the fuck is Bae doing Minecraft tomorrow instead of today when she could easily join Fauna
>>44461977Kiki reminds me of Zeta, just way more explicitly horny
>>44462554But JPbros say those are dead subs. That cannot be right.
>>44462579Right, but it's a video platform... streaming is like a kiddie pool that no one cares about or focuses on, so topping the charts CCV with little to no competition isn't a big deal.
Since birthdays can't clash with the debut days and there has to be a period of at least 2 months between the anniversary and the birthday because of the merch I would say HoloEN3 will come out between April and May so their debuts don't overlap with Myth's birthdays or IRyS anniversaryAlso all of EN3's birthdays will be on January or October
>>44462581>giving selen that much of a model downgradeDevious
>>44462406Can't believe they wasted that God tier design
>>44462598KFC didn't do well apparently. Poor organizing and poor receptions
>>44462028We can swap them for NijiJP girls.I've had my eyes on Salami, Sophia, Nozomi and Toru for a while.
>>44462406her streamlabs got killed and she is probably in niji deaht row waiting for her graduationim guessing anycolor is waiting for the heat they have from that stupid dramatuber fiasco to die down
>>44462579Anon...JP regularly hit both of these criteria. Marine and Pekora get that number all the time
>>44462576Nijiniggers were positive he was gonna beat her and get cripple gold hahahahFucking not even 6k RP ASMR what a washed up loser he's become.
>>44462697They’re waiting to have their gamer wave finalized so they can bury the bad news with good news
>>44462556>no androids or robotsdid you forget about Machina x Flayon? I mean it's understandable considering his viewership but still he's there.Honestly aside from the mixed gender shit the Tempiss designs and budget isekai theme is absolutely fucking atrocious. I hope with EN3 we'll get something more similar to Myth instead of Council and Tempiss. These is a reason they are the ones getting shit like Myth Bad End instead of the forced chuuni gens.
Anons, are you ok with an indie using holocure to try to incline?
>>44462576you better be joking
Is there a name for the kind of coombaiting and react streaming western vtubers do? should we come up with one or even seperate them?
>>44462584Bae in a heartbeat.
>>44462738yeahthat blonde jp indie inclined due to it gaining 1k subs overnight and becoming a regular 2view instead of a 1view
>>44462598I saw on yesterday thread, he doing a sponsored kfc stream on b2, does anyone know what the content about? did he just did a mukbang of kfc?
>>44462576Kek
>>44462576>gaming>buff content
>>44462738if they're a true fan, sure why not. if they don't get the references though, they can fuck off
[zalgo] vodcoep [/zalgo]
>>44462772i only remember the redhead from the archives, don't know how is she doing rn
>>44462792I wonder how many sponsors are still lined up from the time that Luxiem were at the top.
>>44462675that design and rigging, all for nothing
>>44462795nijien is so retarded that they burned all their buff content and turned it into regular content
>>44462733Considering they announced FlopSoleil just as they shitcanned Yugo, this is very likely.
>>44460808>Can you do NijiEN, HoloEN, and HoloID per gen?Not ID, but here is the > 30 DAYS **MEDIAN OF PEAKS**, PER GEN / WAVE, EN MARKETHere are some comments1) Myth, with their 3D showcases and collabs, bounced right back up to over a 7k average2) Council, after their very own eventful weeks with their outfits and the Japan Arc, returned to their (new) normal, also around 7k3) Luxiem is experiencing a total collapse of their numbers, starting from mid August and dropping to almost half their peak, their lowest numbers since Feb 2022then, the minors4) Noctyx regained their #4 position, not because of any incline but because everybody else reclined below them5) Lazulight and Obsydia continue above the 2k line, both down from their peaks but stable in their incline from their pre Luxiem numbers6) Ethyria seems to have broken from their fall but they're right now at the lowest point of that wave since May 2022then the midgets7) Tempus reached their lowest point on record in the end of February and stabilized at that point8) XSoleil, like Tempus, seems to have reached their floor around the end of February and stabilized9) iLUNA is the wave that thought they had lost all numbers managed to lose the last bit of numbers they didn't even know they hadNotice that this is the **MEDIAN OF PEAKS**, which is heavily skewed by raids, Z peaks and similar artificial inflation of the peaks.The same chart, but with the true average, will be posted in a future post.
>>44462738>morality and ethics>ever getting you success in the free market
>>44462738As long as you're okay with the fact that you're just getting the attention of Holo tourists who won't stick around for more than a stream
I am too bored.
>>44462648>>44462611take it this way.... I will be more impressed with a youtube streamer if I get to know 1000 people are watching her than if her videos getting 10k viewsMore respect to build a dedicated fanbase than getting almost nothing in views making you no money
>>44462803I would say that even if they are ignorant about the game, they can do so if their paypigs wanted them to try it.
when's VShojo cripple gold?Also VODs count for YT since that's their main souce of revenue unlike on Twitch where CCV is actually important.
>>44462845>>44462733They learn from the master
>>44462361windu overlap? unlucky
I unironically don't understand Chinman numbers. The same dude who pulled 120k doing zatsu with Peanut-kun get less number for his own tournament than Kuzuha and only 37k for anniversary
>>44462862good business always start off with morality and ethics.it's the future CEO and owners that change that.
>>44462861I love how the nijifag still tries to prop up the LOE girls trying hard not to use the recline word with them even though we can clearly see a downward trend in their graphs
>>44462738I mean there's an indie who literally stream fangirling suisei for a whole month
>>44462889That's fine and all, but what you are more impressed by isn't reality... It's a video platform and getting views that put you on the level of its biggest channels will always be more impressive than dominating the little leagues.
>>44462831People said that the kfc collab probably took months of preparation, so i don't doubt there might be more backlog sponsors from last year.
>>44462861Thanks anon. The sister will be finally happy about this. Or maybe, mad.
Now this is what I call a slip. Right at the finish line.
what is taking so long for nijis to announce zion graduation? will she actually get a goodbye stream?
Fauna playing minecraft only 2 hours?
>>44462861>Myth and Council has similar averageSo Council actually does much better than people give them credit for.>Luxiem still top dog>Tempus only above xsoleil and ilunaClearly we need another "wave" of Tempus boys. Popular demand.
>>44462889your respect aint worth shit when the situation you are describing just makes them stagnate as a shitter instead of inclining by riding the algoyou basically just want everyone to become an indie shitter
>>44462861>9) iLUNA is the wave that thought they had lost all numbers managed to lose the last bit of numbers they didn't even know they had>Notice that this is the **MEDIAN OF PEAKS**, which is heavily skewed by raids, Z peaks and similar artificial inflation of the peaks.RORU RORU RUMAO EVEN!
>>44462731Eh, I'd say Myth and Council are on par in terms of model designThe only "bad" designs are Kiara (shouldn't have fast food restaurant motif) and Sana (for obvious reasons)Though Myth does have the slight edge with Gura's model being so damn iconic and Kiara's still being better than SanaIRyS's model is also decent nowadays, tho it could still be better (color saturation in particular)
>>44462873[flip] i'll unironically break a leg if I get drafted [/flip]
>>44463081There's nothing stopping her from overlapping the Myth collab, you know. It's not even 3D
>>44463081she could overlap myth if she wants because that isn't an event, though i doubt she would.
>>44462945who?
>>44463100I will not. I will bring at least 10 other hohols with me to hell.
>>44462861>The same chart, but with the true average, will be posted in a future post.it's basically a firing squad for Tempus and Niji, can't fucking wait.
>>44462964>>44462908>For YoutubeIf Youtube wants to judge the performance of their streaming platform they will give more importance to a 30k streamer than someone who gets 500k views(which any Tom Dick and Harry can get on YT)>For viewer>>44462889If you want to judge someones fanbase size then sure VOD is more important, but thats never a debate /here
>apparently the new JP prime Minister said: "No babies, No Japan."don't worry, I'll fertilize all the hag eggs.
If VOD is so important, where's the VOD tally?
>>44462861>The same chart, but with the true average, will be posted in a future post.kek the ultimate grim
>>44462861Tempus, Illuna and Xsoleil aka the newest EN waves all in downfall and Idiots still beleive that EN3 would have a chance in the current market
>>44463084council's ccv has always been okay to decent, they just have no fucking subs and vod views
>>44462861>the ethyria dropjesus christ and they are still the runt if we exclude iluna and lolisex
>>44462924Im more impressed that they all disappeared from thin air just like in bermuda triangle, a mystery that will never solve.
>>44463185I'M ON MY WAY, I'LL MAKE YOU PROUD ABE
>>44462366Hololive's business is not limited to Youtube. For their business model, a large dedicated fanbase is by far the most valuable asset.
>>44462964>>44463085Not him but why are you guys so against ccv? I mean if you are a streamer it is still a relevant number to you no matter the platform. Or are you telling a streamer to farm VOD view? But then they are not a streamer anymore
>>44462861So what is the consensus on Xsoleil, anyways?
>>44463248>ABEanon...
>>44463185Actually Japan is not that bad among the developed countries with 1.27. Korea has 0.78 fertility rate (2.1 is the replacement level) which is pretty grim.
>>44463212Why are you pretending that Myth's is any better in EVERY SINGLE CASE? It all depends on the content of the stream.
>>44463268They're youtubers.
>>44462766stonecold but i like the adamant choice
>>44463204>Gen 0, Gen 1 and Gen 2 and the newest JP Gen which iss Gamers all in downfall and Idiots still beleive that JP3 would have a chance in the current market dominated by Nijisanji
>>44463304Youtubers whose 99% content comes via streaming
So now that western chuuba scene is going full politics is there any hope for it? There's no real appeal compared to flesh streamers anymore
>>44463084Council's CCV being above Myth isn't anything new, it's been that way for months as you can see since Myth's top hitters show up so rarely these days compared to their runts
>>44462509No, transfers aren't a show of power in vtubing.
>>44463084It's not like myth has been making it hard for them lately, but yeah council is doing okay. Would be nice if it was more than just Fauna and.......bae carrying them though.
>>44463268>streamertheyre youtubers anon>>44463333and 99% of the incline and relevance relies on vod and the algorithm
>>44463343I will still watch Enna and IRyS.
>>44463084Council for a long time now has been the top dog when it comes to CCV. The problem is Mori, Kiara, and Ame doing debuff shit are too heavy for Gura and Ina to carry alone.Council's problem has always been their mind chair and things related to it like VOD views and sub growth. For instance Council might mog Mori in CCV 6 ways to sunday, but Mori curb stomps all of them in VOD views
>>44463193The same reason there is no subs count tally. It is TOO BORING to be used for horse races.
>>44463193https://youtu.be/_Mizxy91yNM
>>44461957Look at the thumbnail - algo mistook it for Gura's duolingo
>>44463185Don't worry, holo has Miko and Luna
>>44463193its too boring and people abandoned it once myth debuted for some reason
>>4446319324hrs delay with the new verification bullshit for a tally sounds a little boring.
>>44462304Based
>>44463343As long as SNORyS stays out of it, I'm happy
>>44463362>incline and relevance relies on vodno it doesnt.... whoever new joins the fanbase doesnt come by watching a 3hr VOD of duolingo or part 6 of Hitman .... they join by getting recommended clips or streams or word of mouth
>>44461436Projection? Projection!
>>44463343all your fault for saying "chuubas are just streamers with avatars"
>>44463430They are nothing similar.
>>44463384It's literally only Mori and Gura though. Kiara's overall views are entirely carried by her music because her day to day streams are fucking godawful. Ina and Ame are completely situational. Before she started her handcam shit near the tail end of the year her vod views per stream were even worse than Fauna's.
>>44463304>>44463362But they stream? Or do you think it's ok for them to be 2viewers because they are Youtubers?
>>44463496>they join by getting recommended clips or streams or word of mouthand pray tell anon do those people get exposed by clippers streaming or clipper vods?
>>44463333When the vods are stored in perpetuity and are the main focus of the platform the fact the content is uploaded live at some point is irrelevant. It's important if VODs are not the platform focus and either limited in the time they stay accessable or are never again accessible, like on twitch. Hence the only "streamers" that care about CCV are on twitch because that's how you stay at the top of a category and have people find your content.
what happened? 4chan dies for 6 hours and suddenly crap like this appears>>44463100>>44462818
>>44463506But they are. You don't know how degenerate some JP chuubas can be. They are worse than nijiEN.
>>44463088Nah, Myth's designs are better than Council's overall, especially as a set. I feel like their stronger identifying colors work to their advantage as a group. Those colors are pretty aesthetic together, Council is screwed over by the brown and green not meshing as well with the others.
>>44463527*Before Ame started her handcam shit
>>44463380Your wish has been granted.
>>44463427>a girlgroup with 2B viewsholy shit i thought only BTS is the big fish
>>44463193CCV is much more exciting. Too bad youtube fucks with them so much though.
>>44463343no and that's good, maybe with the market dying HoloEn will actually start putting an effort
>>44463546i mean if they cared about views or wanted ccv to be their main driving force they should have gone to twitch
https://twitter.com/RiotMAXtheX/status/1629967391072440321>PCU is close to irrelevant>AMA & HW pay the bills Ignore the rest because it's offtopic Median bros? Hourswatchedisamememetric bros?
>>44463580Most cursed image ever created in this thread.
>>44463567Nigga half of council were fucking sankisei colors and no one said shit about it
>>44463551how is your question an argument against talents are not streamers??
>>44463517Green map = green bird. Yes, it's stretching it, but there's no other explanation
>>44463088Council's designs are ass.Mumei's design is the most generic design you could possibly think of.Fauna is just a fucking tree girl.Kronii is just big boobs with an ugly clock.Bae is the only good design in council.
>>44463565then don't be surprised that they are diving into politics
>>44463640and how is your question an argument agains their incline relying on vod and not ccv?
>>44463299Hasn't Ina always been pretty shit for gaming VOD views though? Same thing as Fauna, all their fans just seem to tune in live.
>>44463605>competition offs itself>surely, NOW they'll be motivated
>>44463623This guy is fucking coping because literally no one watched LEC last year
>>44463496Lots and lots of people aren't no-lifes and can't watch most streams live.
Goodsmile showing who are the merch queens in order>Gura > Marine > Pekora > Korone > Okayu
>>44463546>Or do you think it's ok for them to be 2viewers because they are Youtubers?Considering what the top youtubers have said about it? Yeah since they said time and time again that ccv is a shit metric when it comes to growing your community and popularityHell its the reason why most of them have multiple channels.
So we are looping back to how lazy HoloENs are right now? Spamming topics about them being lazy would not make them hardworking all of a sudden. There must be some other way.
>>44463586Black Pink is the hottest shit right now nigger. Also viewfarming is a thing
>>44463278Only saving grace was Zaion.
>>44463555For a streamer, whether on YT or Twitch... CCV is more important otherwise Twitch would save the VOD... not to mention I will get more mind share and make more money with 1000ccv than 50k views on YoutubeIf VOD was THE important metric why do the talents stream? They can just record and upload the video and the ones who did that got shit views
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>39,525: Marine (Hololive)>36,504: Miko (Hololive)>28,719: Suisei (Hololive)>26,285: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)>25,095: Botan (Hololive)>21,921: Lain (Nijisanji)>21,006: Nene (Hololive)>19,690: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>17,407: Ratna (Nijisanji)>16,856: Kanata (Hololive)>16,651: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>16,192: Watame (Hololive)>15,906: Laplus (Hololive)>15,413: Furen (Nijisanji)>14,612: Koyori (Hololive)>14,521: Mio (Hololive)>14,075: Lamy (Hololive)>11,585: Shigure Ui (Indie)>11,458: BOOGEY VOXX (Indie)>11,306: Lize (Nijisanji)>11,186: Lauren (Nijisanji)>10,942: AZKi (Hololive)>10,283: Luna (Hololive)Marine Minecraft gold in a day with SIX (6) Holo girls making the tally with the bloc game, along with a first (and likely only?) presence of the retiring duo BOOGEY VOXX in their final concert.
>>44463622I think you are misunderstanding something. I merely want to argue that your mindset of "Only one number matter" is inherently wrong. I don't deny VOD view importance but is it ok to be a 2view or sublet at the same time? No way lol
>Make a shitpost comparing Miko and Gura vods>Conversation about Gura and vods still continuing for like 18 hours straight if you discount 4chan being downS-sorry…
>>44463792>MARCH 2023 GOLDS1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata>PER COMPANY4x: Hololive1x: Indie, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: Gura, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nerumero, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY48x: Hololive14x: Nijisanji2x: Indie1x: VSPO>PER STREAMER20x: Pekora6x: Marine4x: Toya3x: Mio2x: Kuzuha, Miko, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro
>>44463716kek, it's clearly sorted by gen with the only misplaced one being Miko
>>44460026>GET of ForceI now believe once again. That bitch will return in 2025.
>>44463786>CCV is more important otherwise Twitch would save the VOD...Twitch gives the option of saving the VOD. The reason it's not a big deal on twitch is that their video player is dogshit and nobody uses the site for watching non-live content
Melon>irys
>>44463761>Genshit spammerrumao
>>44463088Council is far too overdesigned, both their retarded lore and actual visual designs.A time traveling detective is simple enough but extremely charming and can be used to create a lot of fun scenarios, the alt dimension Ame variants are proof of that. Council on the other hand are these weird abstract deities and the entire thing clashes very hard with their streamer persona, so much that Bae at this point is just a rat girl and Kronii might as well be just a normal schoolgirl instead of whatever that time warden crap is all about.You can absolutely tell that Omegatranny or whoever was behind this shit has the tastes of a 16 yrs old who really fucking loves Fateshit.
>>44463418>>44463451There's also no easily accessible data source for itWe have 3+ CCV tracking sites (vrabi, vstats, holostats)Meanwhile, we only have:- an anon that tracks vod growth for like a dozen prominent streams at a time- an anon that tracks clip views,- that anon that pops up occasionally with interesting vod views per duration over time raw data but with a stupid ranking system that favors Gura
>>44463546Wouldn't matter if they got big vod views and had fans/content that youtube views in a favorable light. Loads of youtubers have talked about this in excruciating detail and trying to apply twitch meta to the platform seriously and not just for fun horse racing is completely retarded.
>>44463716Retard.
>>44463745Unironically they need more streamers. Like I will also be lazy as fuck if I don't have anyone who share the same interest to play with.
>>44463791No one number matters but some numbers matter more than others on certain platformsOn twitch ccv is kingOn youtube vod is kingDont let the horse race delude you into thinking yt ccv is number one anywhere outside here
Relying on CCV only and ignoring subs and VODs are only good for pure streamers. Hololive are not only streamers but they have "idol reps", whatever that means especially in the EN scene.3D lives and MV for example need to have good VOD views with long legs.This is a separate point. All streamers has to have big and active subs counts and they have to keep them from being dead.
>>44463893>vod views per duration over time raw dataIt's not raw data, he weights the VOD per length to debuff long streams
>>44463868not really since they delete the vods after 60 days since its not important for their site
>>44463881Only the model. Man i wish Hololive has more normal model like JKgumi.
>>44463853also fun fact: this was the 10th minecraft gold of the year which already double's 2022's total of just 5
Tomorrow gold candidate?
>>44463965>JKgumiToo plain
>>44463868dont you think the most money hungry company would have done everything in there power to give importance to VOD if that was profitable and important?? For someone who streams - CCV should be the main metric, everything else is at the mercy of the platform algorithm
>>44463745Nijisisters have Shu literally appearing once a month only for shill streams and they somehow still call HoloEN lazy, just because there are other 40+ shitters to watch if they're desperate.
>>44463941>All streamers has to have big and active subs counts That's not a problem for Holos, is it? There is not a single Holo girl sub 500k subs and, with Kaela nearing 600k, that threshold will increase very soon
>>44463957you can save vods permanently
>>44463881you don't even have melon membership
>>44463792>11,458: BOOGEY VOXX (Indie)It nice for boggievoxx to be on the tally for their final concert.
>>44463623this dude is a infamous retard, and this is the final cope because ibai (the spic streamer) team basically bailed them out of a luxiem-tier recline.
>>44462738Yeah but if it's very obvious that you are just trying to numberfag then people wont be happy if you are a genuan fan and can make the tourists relate then why not
>>44464004companies don't necessarily stray out of their lane. Twitch is not a VOD company, it's a livestreaming company.
>>44464018nah its still unreliab and does nothing to you on twitch which is why most twitch streamers save their vods on youtube
>>44463992unknown for now, but toya in the lead with 38k
>>44463992Chinman. Otherwise, just the usual suspects.
>>44463941>>44463919nothing to do with platformIf someone is uploading a video then VOD is more importantIf someone is streaming then CCV is more important
>>44463792>26,285: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)Wasn't she the one that had the 100k+ debut stream and was shilled on mainstream news for saving a dying theme park?Holy recline.
I'm actually peeved that both Mysta and Vox lost. The bar was on the fucking floor and they still couldn't clear it That pathetic 6k didn't deserve to win.
>>44463803It keeps the thread from being boring.But I rather have a boring thread.
>>44464008Shu is literally the Vesper yabba dabba doo meme except for Elira and he refuses to stream in general.
>>44463716>In Japanese text written in tategaki, start at the top of the right hand column, and read the characters from top to bottom.So basically Aqua is the most important and Gura is at the bottom
>>44463716Washed up dog cannot be this high, its clearly wrong.
>>44463992Chinman3d nijigirls collab (roru)Pekora, Miko or Marine doing anything
>>44463992Easy bet on Hololive doing something random
TIK TOK TIK TOK
>>44464003Plain is still better than what the fuck Sana or Irys is.>Inb4 shitpostI'm talking about the models. I really hate animal girls and complicate design. Gamers is the last Doubutsu gen that I actually like
>>44464012Sana...Homos...
>>44464146It's Tick Tock you fucking retard
>>44464107EN is done. Time to come home, white man.
>>44464101it has everything to do with platformfocusing on vod in twitch is retarded the same way focusing on ccv on youtube is retardedits one of the reasons why a lot twitchfags who jump to youtube crash and vice versa
>>44464004Not sure Twitch's business decisions are the best indicator for anything when their management are complete retards.
>>44464008Hard truth is that Luxiem is one of the laziest gens in vtubing, at least one of them has pretty much always been on break since around last September. At least Myth went for over a year before some of them started checking out.
>>44464069you got it the wrong way... twitch became what it is because this makes them most moneyIf you want to upload Videos then follow what Youtube judges onIf you want to stream then follow what Twitch judges onThey are experts in their respective field
>>44464166>Alumni>Not hololive
>>44464124funny because a while back apparently the sisters were sperging out because he only streams collabs and no solo streams. now this is his state.
>>44464103Nijisis only like new toys
>>44464166I'm sure Sana's dead channel more popular than homos
>>44463861Earlier than EN3
>>44464166He said Hololive not Holostars and a bailer
>>44464166>sanaDead>homosThey aren't Holos.
>>44464202no; see >>44464186
where did the sisters go?
Kiara should stop hosting Myth collabs(don't care if they won't have them without her)Myth fell off yes but when they're on her channel one worries if they'll clear 20k. At least it's not during her timeslot too, this time
If there's anything I love about Vtuber then is that it lead to music circles members having their own personas. Maybe a Vtuber gen that is also a band would actually work, with proper band name and logo
>>44464188I would be lazy too if I made as much money as they did + had a fanbase that fucking annoying. Half their viewers don't even know English. It's like 2019 HoloJP where half their viewers were EOPS.
>>44461014>The sister said that while posting the woman that adores Pekora, calls her cute and wish she was her little sister
>>44463786>For a streamer, whether on YT or Twitch... CCV is more importantYou were so close, anon. Should've not clumped up YT to twitch. It's simple, in YT your VODs gains ad rev overtime, a high CCV might snatch you a couple of akasupas, but that's a one-time thing, unlike VODs which will forever generate you money.
>>44464008I thought Shu was on solo strike. He won't stream unless they bring back AR live.
>>44464174Funniest shit I've ever seen
>>44463992Koyori Birthday count maybe
>>44464243>he says this as if neal is not a retard as well
At this rate theres going to be a day no HoloEN girl streams (or kiara/bae just do zatsus or something) and no nijimale streams so we could very possibly get a 0 medal cripple tally
>>44463343holoEN 3 can bring some change holo has a lot of influence so if there are some breakout talents in gen3 then it might stabilize the situation just hope for a 5 view.Or somehow holojp is able to break into the west which seems rather difficult i do think they can held there own in the west with there talents but the hardest part is appealing to them in the first place, only way i see is holoearth that will definitely generate some traction no?
>>44464295it's like comparing holoEN to nijiEN anon
>>444641033d debuts are completely horse fuckery, lain and oliver got 100k debuts and they have and always been shitters. i will also never forgive anycolor for giving lain stone titties.
>>44464302don't worry, grim-chanEN3 will save the day
>>44464243>>44464186you do know why there is a duopoly of Youtube and Twitch right??? They are only surviving because this is the only way a platform can... Mixer tried what you are advocating for, didnt go well did it?Both platform has its own problems but one has figured out video upload and VOD, while the other on streaming and CCV
>>44464188oh yeah. Some people really forgot that Myth went through a whole year by themselves and made a bunch of projects. I'm not surprised how they eventually got burnt out
>>44464302The ultimate grim, I will post grim pics instead of lewds the day it happens
>>44464248They have Luxiem at home and can actually sucking cocks in Chinese>>44461647
>>44463343>going full politics
the only metrics that actually matter are the ones we have no access to anyway, at least for individual streamersit's the memberships, merch sales, ad revenue from vods, and sponsorshipsunless you want to make the argument that ccv is having a strong enough effect on all of them but then I want you to show solid correlation
>>44464251It's the fault of the others, Kiara puts the event/collab together so she hosts on her channel. Blame the others for being lazy or incompetent, especially Gura and Ina.
>>44464327from what im seeing its more like comparing nijiid and nijikr
>>44463792>10,283: Luna (Hololive)
>>44464348NijiJP had a string of boring 3D debuts that probably soured the tourists excitement unless it was someone exciting.
>>44463792How many Minecraft golds so far?
>>44461957Kanata said that it was somehow posted on an official tourism article/website (no specifics so can't find it), probably a heimin put it on the website for shits and giggles.
>>44464368Twitch is only popular because it has first mover advantage. The site is a few poached streamers away from being irrelevent.
Why is there a fight between ccv and VOD when high ccv stream usually lead to big VOD views anyway?
>>44463792>AZKi>10kso Bae wasn't a debuff after all, the GeoGuessrh hype just fade off...
>>44462611They should do heavily edited videos with giga retard thumbnail if they want vod views.
>>44464276???? please anon dont be this retardedmemberships, SC come through streamingThe most viewed VOD for a Holo is what 4-5mil thats like 1 month membership, thats it
>>44464396>the lazy ones are the ones who are blessed with numberswell maybe Kiara should be more tolerable so people don't skip the collabs she hosts
>>44464302>no nijimale streamsA quick reminder that males got no cripple golds in all of FebruaryEven Nijigirls managed to pick up a few cripple golds.
>>44464434>Twitch is only popular because it has first mover advantageSame with youtube
>>44464434>he believes thisyoutube would have to poach like 10 big streamer heads at once to dent twitch and even then thatd just be like the english market let alone other language communities stirring on twitch.
>>44464368Eh well as platforms youtube is far more big it is literally inbuilt in all phones so that's that,if somehow youtube can make there livestreming experience half as good a twitch they will dominate.
>>44464468Overlap hell nigger
>>44464468Azu-chan got a 15k inbetween today's Geo and Bae's Geo.
>>44464489Top Fuxiem males were absent most of Febuary anon
>>44463343As long as HoloEN still doesn't give a shit about politics I couldn't care less. Let those indie clout chasers and backstabbing small corpos rot.
>>44464507cope
>>44464539retard, got overlap by miko 30k, suisei 25k, botan 20k, lamy 13k and watame 10k
>>44464500>if somehow youtube can make there livestreming experience half as good a twitch they will dominate.problem is that youtube isnt focusing on streaming or on any on one thing for that matterthey are trying to become twitch while also becoming tiktok while also supposedly planning on becoming facebook market streaming.
>>44462648>streaming is like a kiddie pool that no one cares about or focuses onExcept YT is paying millions of dollars to poach twitch streamers
Maybe, Youtube is just better for mindchair.
>>44463343en3 is debuting with a political commentator
>>44463955The raw data doesn't look weighted to meHere's the data with the ranking shit cropped out
Let's see whether RIM can prevent Kuzuha surpass it.(If adding same song from different platforms, no vtuber covers can beat top originals.)
>>44464517There was still Floptyx with 5 or 6 different anniversary streams. All of them slipped.
If I have 1 nickel for every Vtuber rabbit girl who fell in love with Gilgamesh I would have 2
>>44464487Now imagine what these collabs would look like if those two could be assed to put something together themselves. You don't even need to imagine, Gura hosted a few last year before her inactivity spiral.
>>44464302If it happens, the tally should just be GRIMWinner: GRIM!Silver, Bronze; GRIM!!Entry into tally: GRIM!!!
>>44464640>Pippalol
>>44461598PekoMari started way before Marine becoming a hag though
>>44464411>Put Kanata instead of AZKii think AZKi should keep her OL work
>>44464491Not even close, Youtube since its inception has been one of the best video sharing platforms on the internet. Twitch is nowhere near as good in terms of being a streaming site - even Youtube is superior in the stream-watching experience. >>44464499Youtube's streaming stuff probably already dwarfs Twitch. There are multiple big streaming alternatives right now and Twitch management is not doing anything to try and keep creators on the site. I couldn't speak for foreign streamers, but I wouldn't be shocked to see XQC or Hasan jump ship after their current contracts expire and at that point Twitch's EN side will be crippled.
>>44464396Like I said, don't care. Extremely rare collabs on any channel but Kiara's and decent numbers >rare collabs but on Kiara's channel and with shit numbers.
What is the RPM of these chuubas anyway? Anyone have that Millie YT stat leak? Just for the baseline on their per mil views revenue
>>44464499So long as the big ES streamers choose to use Twitch, that audience isn't going anywhere, and I'm not really sure youtube really values an audience that basically offers nil for ad rev.
>>44462861Can you split tempus into HQ and VG? Want to see if Bettel is enough to carry VG past HQ
Good news
>>44464609Which column is even the raw data?
>>44464768OH THANK FUCKING GODS, BALANCED SOUND.
>>44464291that's not until next week
wait where are the marine lewds.
>>44464655Nigga Gura's hosted collabs got numbers, and that's all i care. I can't recall when was the last time Ina hosted anything though.
>>44464684YouTube has to fix their chat and video player layout if they want to be serious about it.
>>44464146Neck yourself, Nijifag.
>>44464768GRADUATE ALREADY YOU FUCKING ANNOYING SELFISH STUPID BITCH
>>44464768reduce Kiara's volume so it's even
>>44464388>customer acquisition cost>customer lifetime value>return on investment>upsell conversion rates>payback cycle>etcThese metrics won't be shown publicly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>44464819egg-chama...
>>44460643>>44461225NijiJP makes more money than all holo branches. They only will recline if their numbers are lowers in the next quarters in more than one quarter and dont go up
>>44464768I expected it to happen at Mori's place, in which she bought new mics.Better location, I guess.
>>44464491Retard. YouTube is the biggest archive of videos in the internet with more downloads than people in the world.
>>44464768I predict Gura and Ina will somehow still be quiet compared to Mori and Kiara
>>44463314Imaging trying to compare earlier holo gen to HoloEN branch.
>>44464819
>>44464600>Except YT is paying millions of dollars to poach twitch streamersthey just want twitch gone anon they arent focusing on streaming their plan is >>44464589
>>44464684your bias is showing anonalso take out the IF and WHEN, talk about NOWIf I want to judge a streamer I will use Twitch metric to do that because they are the expertIf I want to judge a video uploader I will use Youtube metric to do that because they are the expertDoesnt matter which platform they belong to, the metric shouldnt change on the job role
>>44464819kfp janny? yeah this post right here, he's about to crack
>>44463193Here:>>44438459>>44366767>>44296398>>44215026
>>44464805Marine doesn't have lewds, sadly
Pekora CCV 120K Gura CCV 67K
>>44464804Reading comprehension anon, that's exactly what I insinunated.
>>44464771There are columns for total views and total durations there, alongside the bucketed views/duration columns
Council wishes it had the unity Myth has, hell they're already down a member.
>>44464904>If I want to judge a streamer I will use Twitch metric to do that because they are the expertright now, Youtube is probably a bigger streaming site than Twitch
>>44461138>>44460823Mumei and Bae are busy with school, Cover had no issue hiring part-timers for Council - no idea if they were aware what attitude Kronii would have towards streaming. On top of that as far as we know there was no pressure from management to stream more, manager told BAE that school is more important and BAE was the closest to proffesional streamer they hired for that gen. It's like they wanted side-kicks to established Myth members rather than super-stars in their own right, that's why it's hard to believe Council actually "underperformed" unless they all lied during auditions.
>>44464943gura is shadowbanned in US
>>44464943nigga fuck off already. We're not doing this again
>>44464986>right now, Youtube is probably a bigger streaming site than Twitchnot really considering the biggest stream numbers mostly are still on twitch
Anon, how can holoEN grow their mindshare over asia? do a total control over them (ignoring their main country chuubas)
Here, for the lads talking about stream frequency, here is the >NUMBER OF STREAMS AND HOURS STREAMED, 2023 SO FAR, Holo (EN+ID), NIJI EN, STARS ENtable.Other than Kaela, the other interesting thing in this table is that the new Tempus boys seem to be focusing on a big number of relatively short streamsAre they still on the "one hour limit" regimen?
>>44464982>the unity Myth haslol
>>44464804lolfaggot
>>44465041Like what?
Wait did Fauna really beat Luxiem's two best with a fucking overlapped Penumbra stream?
If you idiots care so much about VOD than why do you say Salome has reclined when she has better VOD views than Subaru who is our first armyThink about it!!!
>>44464851>NijiJP makes more money than all holo branchesYou repeat that but you base your whole reasoning on a single quarter where that *might* be true
>>44464517Dude they had each had between 5 and 11 streams,except shu. How is that absent?
>>44465052Cope Councilshart, Myth still has all its members.
>>44465005I'm pretty sure Cover or someone (I don't remember the stream or timestamp, does anyone else?) said they prioritized hiring people who would fit in with existing talents. So yeah Council was hired to be a collab/cohesion gen.I wonder if they'll change that approach for EN3
>>44465108pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft lol
>>44465063> In the third quarter of 2022 there were an average of 2.64 million concurrent viewers watching content on Twitch> In the third quarter of 2022, YouTube Gaming Live had an average of 544 thousand concurrent viewers,https://www.statista.com/statistics/761122/average-number-viewers-on-youtube-gaming-live-and-twitch/https://www.statista.com/statistics/761100/average-number-streamers-on-youtube-gaming-live-and-twitch/
>>44465005It seems that Cover is still like that, not having issues hiring part-timer ID3.
>>44465127>youtube Gaming Live>statista
>>44464943both should be higherboth are shadowbanned to various degree
>>44465052LOL all you want, doesn't change that Sana fucked off and Kronii doesn't care about her gen. The only real unity is Mumei/Fauna with Bae diligently attending stuff but being kinda locked out of the loop most of the time
>>44465055>post doesn't say anything wrong>lel faggotogey thin skinned
>>44465063Ibai still holds the top streamer ccv with 3 million ccv in twitch anon
>>44465048Nah, I think they just stream six times a week on average.
>>44465100Based Niji pocketing mored2ky4money.
>>44465142so no arguments?
>>44465176not true. youtube has double that with a World Cup stream
>>44465176>Ibai still holds the top streamer ccv with 3 million ccv in twitch anon** BLOCKS YOUR PATH **
>>44465070People care about VODs? I mean you don't see tops sited advertising the most watched VODs. Besides YouTube Premium allows you to bost VOD views anyway.
>>44464943Lol alright this is pretty funny, one of the more blatant examples I've seen.Though they're probably both culled to some extent.
>>44464251Then Ina, Ame, or Gura should actually set them up. Kiara just complained about how only her and Mori are putting in effort trying to setup offcollabs. The others just want to go to arcades together or whatever instead of streaming.
>>44465188Maybe but they take a huge dive in the hours streamed half of that table, in relation to their position in the number of streams
>>44465252Some companies care about VODs for the sponsorship
>>44465070They have similar VOD views though.
>44464819Trying wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too hard
>>44465041You mean individual streamers.The biggest streams are all from YouTube.NASA, SpaceX, Johnny Depp, Apple Inc., and Sports games.
>>44463081She'll probably overlap for like an hour or so. She definitely won't overlap IRyS though so probably a 3 and a half hour stream total.
>>44465176>>44465245thought we were focusing on streamers? why are you suddenly shifting to company events?
>>44465252>top sites advertising vodsNigger what the fuck are you even talking about. We know vods matter, cope that they don't has always been stupid. Fighting over whether they matter more or less than ccv is fine but there is no debate on whether they matter at all.
>>44465048Looks like a lot of NijiENs are falling off in stream hours compared to last year.
>>44465127>>44465230anon, using the youtube gaming filter is like using only one of the twitch tagsThat bias site is comparing a fragment to a whole
>>44464768Easy 50k stream for myth!
>>44464251>still think Myth cares about CCV when they're obviously culledthey have access to their real YT analytics anon. If they don't care about CCV, it's obvious they're not worried about it or else they would do everything on Gura's channel
>>4446097410 more mins till new patch
>>44465048So, 7 out of the 8 StarsEN streamed for more hours than Kiara, the highest HoloEN for hours streamed.
>>44464982But Fauna, Mumei, IRyS, and Bae have great unity.
>>44463792
>>44465351So your saying we should include events like nintendo and apple announcements instead of just streamers?thought we were arguing about streamers
>>44465283Also why SameTori offcollab is happening and not the Gurame geoguesser
>>44464892Proof? Is it the voice in your head anon?
>>44465440IWNBC
>>44465444
>>44465451you think twitch did not include nitendo and LoL in their average? kek
>>44465479>Proof? Is it the voice in your head anon?Anon why the fuck do you think youtube is changing their shorts (algo and all)
>>44464943Congratulations chumbuds I hope you have another stream soon.
>>44465506
>>44465451He meant go find the top 10 or 100 ccv and pick the highest streamer is more accurate then using a filter
>>44465268VOD views just don't correlate to CCV that neatly, you don't need to call everything a cull.
>>44465572
>>44465509yessame way youtube didnt put the nintendo announcement in the live gaming category
>>44465100yes im saying this based on the most recent quarter. if it changes in the next quarter I wont say it anymore.
>>44465479https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/12475004?hl=en#:~:text=Starting%20in%20mid%2DJanuary%202023,sign%20the%20appropriate%20agreements%20beforehand.Its also the reason why susan kneecapped fillian and all the other creators who were reliant on shorts but were not family friendly
>>44464314I don't see how holoearth will attract many new viewersIt seems to be aimed at hardcore fans that are willing to go through hoops to get the best viewing experience and a novel way to spend moneyAlong with serving as an asset factory for 3D streamsIt'll only attract tourists if the game part of it is good, and from the type of game it apparently is, I have doubts with only 2 years of development
>>44465628
VOD views are important, but anyone who is trying to use VOD views for his oshi is coping hardI am looking at you chumbuds
>>44464943【3D LIVE !】SHARK 3D LIVE! #Gura3DLive CCV>92,207【 #さくらみこ4周年 】ゲストあり!Baby Dance Live 4th Anniversary 3D LIVE【ホロライブ/さくらみこ】CCV>114,775【#兎田ぺこら3周年 / 3DLIVE】Chu! Summer Party【ホロライブ】CCV>142,791
>>44465350its because all wave 1 to 5 took breaks in february
>>44465509>avgTwitch has far more streamers than YouTube, which means too many 2view dragging the numbers.
>>44465691
why is kiara so unpopular when she almost has the same subs as Ina?
>>44465440proof?
>>44465630check the source information, anon
>>44464943At this point this is just chumbud sucking their own dick lol. Everyone know Gura got culled already
>>44465723>breakssilent suspensions
>>44465109If they want to grow in the western market like they said they really should. The girls will be successful and live like queens no matter what, but from a company perspective it's really dumb for Cover to hire more inconsistent part timers
>>444657131.7 mil2 mil4.2 milthis is not impressive chumbud
>>44465713Still so annoyed that shitty EN management cut Gura's Live short. She was still inclining when it ended, she absolutely could have hit 100k if it went the the full hour and some change.
>>44465713>>44464943>phone poster>dumb posts >holo vs holowhat did he mean by this
>>44462598where's the picrel of chink lines anyway??? Sisters were saying that the lines outside the Myth cafe in Korea were all just paid employees, so I was waiting for the KFC never ending lines
>>44465731it's not average per stream, retard
>>44465713How the fuck Gura beats Peko and Miko VODs with all the content she puts out?
why did this whole vod views and ccv debacle came up to light right after gura's 3d?
>>44465698I remember that self-proclaimed "chumbud" saying any "chumbud" who resort to VOD view is already given up on Gura's sub count
>>44465777unless you have any other source for yt avg ccv then its the only one we got
>>44465751Kiara literally got those subs out of pity, it's the perk of being a shitter in the same gen as the breakout talent.
>>44464400No one cares about you literal who
Think she's suspended?>>44465717
When Zaion gets "Graduated" who will be the first person to leech off of it?
>>44465698>44465713 immediately underkekThis is more of a shitpost than anything.
>>44465806b-b-but anons said Gura only has dead subs... just what is it anon...
>>44465690True but "a vtuber metaverse that holds lives" is interesting enough to attract tourists, obviously depends upon how well cover can pull it off the main focus is to give a good first impression.Maybe a music video that is shown to everyone that enters the game,fully 3d with interactive environment and the talent dancing and stuff might be overkill but it shows how much potential it can hold.
>>44465417They also don't care about vod views then.
>>44465858That looks more like her making fun of shu's announcement
https://youtu.be/yjg2yxszyg4Laplus' taxes were three times higher than the estimated amount
>>44465854>anti lunawhy
>>44465100>profits laggingThis is mostly because of Cover's investment in HoloEarth right?
>>44465850check the source information of that statista document, anon
Eagle bros, we are never getting our 50k stream...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtCFzNMhJQQ
>>44465698>>44465713its poetic coincidence
God you guys are just as bad as the sisters
>>44462144It's from their recent financial report for the IPO iirc, but I don't have the pic handy
>>44465847Nothing else interesting to talk about
>>44465961already did anon, and?
>>44465937Hololive = shit
>>44461698>>44461931anon you're reading a deepl post from some SEAfag on their board...
What the fuck is this
>>44465858>>44465926Yeah this shit really sound full of irony, is she always like this ?
>>44461562try /hlgg/ for people that actually watch them
>>44465657>yes im saying this based on the most recent quarter.You realize one quarter is three months, right? And that not every company has their strongest quarter in the same quarter?With that said, Anycolor has never ever Ever EVER had even a single quarter with a lower sales revenue than COVER. They can't and shouldn't. they have a much bigger "inventory" of products than their competitor>115 streamer channels in their JP branch alone with at least one stream in 2023 (discounting the merged in ID and KR) versus 75 from ALL branches and agencies under COVERThey never ever had a lower sales revenue than Hololive but the fact the gap dropped that much points out to a future when even in that metric they might end up getting outranked, which would be absolutely preposterous
>>44466011it literally said that it combined all streams and channels, including official channels for world and regional tournaments
>>44465932Oh no, another Mysta situation?
>>44466042yes, but it's "just bantz"
>>44465542>>44465680Im talking about the claims about YT wanting twitch gone. I don't care about no shorts.
>>44466042Wouldn't be surprised if she herself posted that screenshot.
>>44466071the gap is closing down
>>44466032that's like 90s tomboy fashion
>>44465810>hit 100k if it went the the full houranon, it will hit 100k within the next 10mins (she hits 80-90k in 15mins for comparison)
>>44465950That's sales revenue and sales profit, it only includes revenue from sales and cost from sales.
>>44461562>I can tell you about FaunaShe is spontaneous, witty, cute, dedicated, passionate, consistent and the epitomy of CGDCT>dont know about the rest
>>44466071About 1/4 of NijiEN's revenue came from Luxiem. Since Luxiem collapsed this year their profit margins are probably shot to hell.
>>44466128And miko hit 100k in 10 minutes your point?
>>44466142Fauna does alot of things well but she isn't very cute
>>44465932she probably had the most sponsorship in 2022 for Holo, so make sense
>>44462803Eh I've seen actual gaming channels play it, and it's fun watching them try to understand what the references could be about.There are some faggots who do lectures n shit which are cringe tho.
>>44465932These girls really need to be hooked up with accountants. Like there has to be something similar in Japan to the old keep the profits in a personal corporation and pay out dividends trick.
>>44466178pathetic opinion
>>44466104>Im talking about the claims about YT wanting twitch goneSo youtube poaching a couple of twitch streamers and courting pokimane with that ridiculous amount of cash
>>44465932>3 times higher then estimate which is count during mid of last yearHer is different situation anon
>>44463343> EN> VTubingOnly fools would ever have any hopes in the first place
>>44465005BtwBae graduated, presumably right before her JP tripMooms is taking the semester off to try to fix her health...which isn't working very well so far
>>44466169>your point??? I was just plotting anon's prediction for when Gura could've hit 100k. Don't be too defensive anon, Gura beats Miko's VOD views. That's what this primary thread is all about.
>>44466073reverse mysta
>>44465932She talks so nice.
>>44465846How many streams did gura do after that 3D live? 25? Now compare it to pekora and miko.
>>44466071I would let Anycolor slipping to Cover slide.They sell garbage but with high profit margins, so it would lead to lower revenue but higher profit margins. But still, it gives disservice to their organs.Riku, give your livers some talent freedom to make their own merch.
>>44466291>>44465698
>>44466104why would youtube want twitch to stay? Remove all competitions, monopolize the distributionBusiness 101, anonHow old are you?
>>44466144>Since Luxiem collapsed this year their profit margins are probably shot to hell.It won't, and for a simple reason1) Luxiem are only five2) They debuted FIFTEEN new JP in 2022 and 2023, plus TWELVE more EN in the same periodTheir trade is not on high revenue per streamer, but high streamer count. Luxiem was an oddity and losing them will just have them accelerate a little harder and debut some twelve more, twenty more, fifty more
>>44466343>>44465713
>>44465005if they were going for gura's sidekicks than they hit the jackpot for awhile. too bad gura is dead and is ignoring mumei/kronii nowadays
>>44466327She does now because she suffered severe anti correction. I was watching this stream and her tone seems almost like a different person. The kusogakiness is all but gone.
>>44466372cope
>>44465863All of NijiEN has timed tweets primed to go off at minute of announcement
>>44463941Anon nobody ITT gives a shit if chuubas get big VODs for a reason.
>>44465005mumei will never finish school
>>44466333>Riku, give your livers some talent freedom to make their own merch.that would mean the livers getting more profit shares which means less money to riku and is a big no no
>>44466365Clearly they don't want twitch gone since they didn't poach the biggest streamer on twitch.
>>44463343so /hlg/ was right all along?
>>44465793retard, most of them were in vacation in japan
>>44466333>so it would lead to lower revenue but higher profit marginsBut it wouldn't, exactly because their margin is high, a reduction in sales revenue would necessarily mean a reduction in profit
>>44461647He looks like a fucking Thin Man from XCOM disguised as Vox what the fuck
So much coping over the fact Gura's VODs get consistently good views.
>>44465846>Stream everyday: You have so much to watch that can barely keep up with so much content>Stream one in a while: I guess I rewatch old streams again
>>44464943>>44465713why is it chumbuds who always bring out the> VODcope
>>44466462>vacationgetting reprimanded and if the rrats from the jp sphere are true probably trying to save face and kiss the ass of the jp clique they angered
>>44466414And that reason is because people in this thread are as dumb as they come
>>44460846ambribabri bribaboo
>>44466414JP losing so VODs don't count COPE.
Reminder that correlating CCV to vods is dumb.
>>44465070nobody itt gives a shit about VODs except newfags and shitposters
Even today, the top twitchfags mog the top vtubers. Not even Pekora can measure up
>>44462304>CCV is more important than VODThis is a retarded idea that only a twitch-streamer whore can believe.Views are king on youtube.CCV is exclusively affected by:- Core fanbase size- Timeslot- Overlaps- Youtube's Zs-inducing bugged as fuck real-time CCV processing.- Youtube's harsh filter for "good viewers" (evidenced by +70% engagement rate of polls in under 2min)- BottingVOD views have historically been more reliable metric. Specially for popular channels that have their viewership spread across the globe.Finally, Youtube itself completely ignores CCV when it comes to calculating any sort of revenue.
Holo vs Holo... Did NijiEN, especially Luxiem fail to secure the cripple gold again?
>>44462861I'm looking forward to the True Average version of this chart. I don't think it will affect Council, Myth or Luxiem that much, but the lower tier ones are gonna get fucking slaughtered.
>>44466333>Riku, give your livers some talent freedom to make their own merch.>decentralize your revenueRiku won't like that
>>44466510>consistentlyIt might be based on frequency of streams. When that happens in the CCV side it it's called>rarity buffSee: Ayame, Marine and Toya.With that said, Gura has a high VOD count even back before Feb 2022 when she streamed consistently
>>44466547And chumbuds
>>44466519Gura's CCV/views ratio has always been insane even when she was more activeShe just has a global audience and the YT algo blessing
>>44466453I guess, but is it really any surprise that western vtubing in general was going to go this way? The question was always whether it's possible to create an island isolated from this bullshit, and so far I'd say holo has been successful at that.
>>44465858> shitting on Shuyikes
>>44466579nope but enna is making fun of shu in a members post>>44465858
>>444665493.2k likes to 20k CCV KEK. Anons told me likes = CCV ratio only happens to western streamers???
>>44466583Next thread
time to bring some quality to this threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ0sJQC8qkE
Twitch = CCV is king the only metric they need.Youtube VODs is king since the onset of youtube it is king so I don't know why people discount it.Youtube CCV is for big events like the ludwig boxing since they got sponsors so it acts like a TV show with sponsors.For Holos if their 3D lives will have sponsors etc CCV will be more important but for now it is a glorified ads for merch selling.
>>44466071Knowing Yagoo’s luck, HoloEarth is gonna somehow be a knockout success.
>>44460849I'm gonna be honest I completely forgot today is her birthday until I saw this and I'm a pretty big IRyS fan. I don't think she hyped this thing at all really.That said, she'll still probably do about what Bae got, maybe a bit bigger, simply because she usually gets better viewership in general than Bae.
>>44466579ye
>>44466579>lost to sapling prime playing a kusogenijiEN threw out all their buff contents too
>>44466659Pretty much
>>44466622speaking of which
>>44466071anon, i dont think you can make this argument of 115 streamers because:Roa, Gilzaren, Uiha and a good amount of them dont streamMany of the ones who do stream dont make this much revenueSo a number of members who actually make a difference is idk, about 40-50 in different levels of revenue>>44466333>>44466436... ID, KR and JP all can have custom merch which they are involved in planning and funding. Nari, Siska, Seffyna, Gaon in id/kr and i remember amamiya and utako having custom merch last year too
>>4446084920k max. 15k floor
>>44463343politics? HoloEN is the same as always
>>44463212Council have perfectly solid metrics, large part of their subs might be culled/shadowbanned from the subcount since their debut week i suspect they are actually closer to IRyS and from that level you need subs from outside of the established holobox which is hard to acchieve for pretty much everyone after Myth.Problem with Council is that they have no real standouts or organizers, they were unable to take advantage of better chemistry (in comparison to Myth) and do interesting group projects because BAE is not Kiara and none of the members exploded in popularity because Kronii is not Gura and sabotaged herself immediately.Also it's important to note they're doing fine as streamers, better than Myth on average but their impact on hololive and Vtubing in general is so much smaller. What sort of impact Kronii left on vtubing if she were to graduate today, subway and homo-drama? But still she somehow can get 15K on minecraft after a year of debuffing herself constantly and spitting on fans.
>>44460846I'm saying like 14-15k or so, maybe it could be higher but Fauna is likely gonna overlap for at least part of it.
>>44466523lol lmaoforget about this, i get it now that you are retarded
Good thing Fauna's game of choice for today was Minecraft. It's the one game that can save her numbers from getting raped by the Myth offcollab.
>>44466510>>44466542Next is Gura ccv is low because shadowban right?Gura is most popular and have the best merch sales in GSC.
>>44466656
>>44466725>Doesn't play HL to "support the cause, you know"
>>44466579Their two crowned KINGS with their buff content lost to Fauna playing whatever the fuck that game is
>>44460360Perfectly fine numbers for Zatsudan
>>44466622just noticed 8.4k members for a guy that has streamed 5 times this year, 2 being shill streams (one being a collab ironically).
>>44466579> Enna making fun of Shu in member post> Vox fail to get easy goldyeah no wonder the loop happen, all in all just your usual Niji Defense Force using random topic to deflect
>>44466701>... ID, KR and JP all can have custom merchFunny you say that when id dont get merch to thee point that some of their fans tried to make one but got ceased and desist by anycolor
>>44466696>45
>>44466622This guy needs to understand that streaming is just his job.
>>44466277It wasn't that bad when HoloEN was leading them
>>44466805>not a membership post
>>44466759Fauna usually manages to incline the entirety of her Minecraft streams so it is gonna be affected by basically being cut to 2 hours, still think she does pretty good though, probably 9-11k.
>>44466542Make a VOD tally if you're so inclined, instead of just spending time shitposting
>>44466826I think some part of him still wishes he could be in Tempus instead
>>44466847my mistake, im used to updates in membership only.
>>44466032he looks like a lesbian
>>44466779>wanting to attract both trannies and polcels for a game that doesnt even do good numbers in the long runwhy the fuck would you want them to attract the bottom barrel of humanity which are trannies and polcels
>>44466805public post my man
>>44466805retardchama...
>>44466769Lese majeste, bitch
>>44466779>play it and get political>dont play it and get political?Plus youre quoting a retarded ass starsnigger
>>44466414CCVs are actually the same.It can be affected by timeslots, consistency on that timeslot, reliance on the box, overlaps, algorithm unironically, length of the stream, time started (delay or what), day of the week, fanbase behavior (would they rather watch live or on-demand), yt being a retard, other things that could also affect vod views like clickbait, and other things I missed.The only good thing that can be gleaned out of CCV is gross retention rate, which is actually inaccessible.
>>44466826I think the entitlement comes from, at one point they were being regarded as the biggest male vtubers... for greedy lonely and expoliters like him get the taste of some power they get paranoid into believing they are "top dog" and all humility goes out of the window
>>44466757so its not a rrat thenhuh so thats why they went to japan
>>44466579Naw this time it's classic chumbuds waiting for her VOD numbers to get big enough to shit up this thread with.It's been the same pattern with them for over two years. Her 3D showcase actually showcasing her abyssal numbers + pic related getting spammed for a while just broke them mentally.
>>44466071Are these JP fiscal years (April start) or actual years (January start)?
Fauna MC 12kBael MK8 8kMyth Collab 19kIRys bday 7.8k
>>44466659But vtuber vod views are not exactly that impressive compared to top youtuber
>Myth offcollab now on Kiara's channelfucking hell holoEN really hate numbers don't they
>>44466779
>>44466993 (me)>April startor rather "March end" given fiscal years mostly concern the previous actual year
>>44466996anon low mid to middle tier youtubers shit on vtuber numbers
>>44463853>No golds for Pekora so far in March.Kek, her era is truly over
>>44466729Council's biggest waste was bae, not kronii. Bae has probably one of the best models in all of hololive, and it showed from her pre debut subcount.Also hiring Mumei and Kronii was a mistake, if they can't be fully commited and stream regularly without delays and breaks they shouldn't have been hired.
>>44466701The ID/KR custom merch you're talking about is jus giving them access to Niji's pixivfactory account on booth so they're limited to the items here https://factory.pixiv.net/..https://nijisanji.booth.pm/items/4393749
>>44466995This but unironically. Can't wait to shit on that ugly goblin after irystocraps kept making fun of Enna's birthday.
>>44466995Two somewhat realistic projections and two shitpostsBalanced, as all things should be.
>>44466939Because he has a back support known as HoloEn, Bae can't play the game is the best proof
>>44466995bae too high. More like 4k - 5kMyth collab won't last that long, IRyS will get the funnel
>>44467081>Ennawho??
>>44466996Same reason why top youtuber still get load of cash from sponsors while vtubers rely more on merch sales.
>>44466995>>44467081Kiara will raid Irys, oh nyo Aloucucks
>>44467092I imagine, or at least I would hope, that they'll shout out IRyS' birthday at the end of it. Would be kind of shitty to not... at least Mori probably will, I could see Gura and Ame not really remembering.
Wow /hlgg/ really just talk about overlapping all days now huh. Do we actually care that much about EN overlapping?
>>44467091>>44466904
>>44467092Guess which stream also got a myth funnel
>>44466701>anon, i dont think you can make this argument of 115 streamers because:>Roa, Gilzaren, Uiha and a good amount of them dont streamAnon, I already only counted the ones with at least one stream in 2023. Even if I increase that to >AT LEAST TEN (10) STREAMS IN 2023it's still 108 streamers on the JP side alone and the ones with at least TWENTY (20) are 91 streamers.>Many of the ones who do stream dont make this much revenueThe whole business model for Anycolor is to extract every single ounce of revenue out of their streamers, even when they do not stream.Streaming, not streaming, graduated, three years old hiatus, that is not an impediment for Anycolor to profit out of their property and they're correct too (despite the grief people in this thread gives them).The point made continues unchallenged: Anycolor, out of size of inventory alone, did never and should NEVER EVER get outranked in sales revenue by COVER and if they EVER do, they're in trouble because that means their competitor achieved a level of efficiency that is threatening their "accelerate" model.
>>44466729Honestly the biggest thing is how completely cursed their channels are on sub growth. Bae and Fauna shouldn't be getting mogged by Zeta in growthIt's kinda sad but it's like you said, they're all doing fine but they don't have that killer impact.
>>44466979>no, it's the chumbuds that are seething>proceeds to post picrel, which is the ultimate seething cherry picked grudgepost RUMAO