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>> No.44460036

Toya's 5th anni is gonna be beaten by a random pekora minecraft tomorrow...

>> No.44460041
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.44460075

>>44460036
Nah, Toya's probably gonna get gold. I don't see any other gold contenders

>> No.44460093

>>44457813
there is a myth offcollab later?

>> No.44460094

GRIM

>> No.44460099

>>44459949
fans reflect the streamer.

>> No.44460114

>>44460026
Marine is revolting

>> No.44460117

>>44459782
>And last, but not least, Honhima
Bro I think you missed Akabane.

>> No.44460126

>>44459835
Why is she moving in yt?

>> No.44460146

What are the projected numbers for IRyS? I think she will do pretty good since she gets a direct funnel from the myth offcollab

>> No.44460145

Surely this thread will be better

>> No.44460161

>>44460093
Yeah. On Kiara's channel, so expect about 5k

>> No.44460165

Holofes SOON

>> No.44460182

>>44459868
Doesn't make sense tbdesu, but then again they chose to sabotage EN so

>> No.44460188

>>44460099
I think he is right. Kiara never ghost her fans, and she streams regularly. This is something that is very rare as a holoEN.

>> No.44460198

>>44460145
It's not too bad since anons seem to have taken their meds during the 6h break

>> No.44460214

>>44460146
15k max

>> No.44460215

>>44460161
full myth or just some myth members? if it's full myth it should be around 12k +/-2k

>> No.44460216

>>44460146
12k

>> No.44460227

>>44460117
>Bro I think you missed Akabane.
She didn't have enough streams in 2022 to provide enough datapoints (only 36), that doesn't make for a good 30 days average chart

>> No.44460232

I just noticed the problem was not Pekora in PekoMiko ship, it was Miko.
Now the same thing happen again Micomet...

>> No.44460233

IRyS birthday stream will be less then 10k. I bet my right nut.

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>>44459993
she also called out the newfags for not knowing why she allowed that kek

>> No.44460270

>>44460036
That is assuming she gonna play MC and not delegate the gold race to Marine or Miko

>> No.44460289

>>44460161
Easy 40k for myth. Stop underestimating the generation of miracles.

>> No.44460301

>>44460146
12k

>> No.44460306

>>44460232
What happened, now? Did she rape suityan?

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>>44460126
No! Im not gonna watch your oshi!

>> No.44460316

>>44460188
anon we've been over this, Goobers is the abusasive GFE

>> No.44460321

what was irys last birthday numbers? is 20k possible? has any council even hit 20k with their birthdays before?

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>> No.44460356

>>44460161
Between 20k and 30k because is Kiara channel. Could be even lower if Kiara and Mori are the ones with the Microphone meanwhile we can't hear Ame, Gura or Ina.

>> No.44460357

>>44460146
>assuming any will funnel

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>STREAMS OVER 5k IN THE EN MARKET TODAY
plus Ame.

>GRIMGANG ASSEMBLE!?
(saplings need not apply)

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>>44460026
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from the last thread:
>RE:ACT's new gaming group is debuting, starting tomorrow.
https://www.twitter.com/Re_AcT_/status/1632682437561188352
>Nijisousaku circles list released. Also an extra event will be held in October.
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_only/status/1632237023028445186
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_only/status/1632237025184325633
>Hololive x Dodecamin collab featuring Subaru, Miko, Okayu & Pekora
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1632576736922615808
>More info on the Good Smile Company collab at HoloFes
https://twitter.com/gsc_goodsmile/status/1632652255978553344?s=20

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>how to turn a thread into shit

>> No.44460389

>>44460099
I mean... you are always eating well if you like eating shit

>> No.44460394
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>>44459949
>>44460099
kek unironically. She really went out her way to reply to a single comment that praised ONLY her in Myth 3d collab. They really reflect each other like a mirror.

>> No.44460418

>>44460126
i don't know, why holos went from nnd to yt?

>> No.44460424 [DELETED] 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/11jor76/stop_slandering_pikamee_the_post_was/jb4wsun?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Can someone here do me a favour and shit on this retard here? I am banned from this sub

>> No.44460426

>>44460289
Kiara channel.

>> No.44460433

>>44460227
I see. Thanks for the charts. I kinda feel like Sasaki is the one with the highest ccv without having any data to back up and it is nice to see that my hunch is correct. Also overall there is no obvious incline or decline for them, which is.... actually a bit worrying because the industry itself is growing.

>> No.44460441

Tick tock, sisters. T-minus 15 minutes.

>> No.44460447

>>44460387
NijiEN can boast about not being last lol

>> No.44460448

>>44460289
Pfffff

>> No.44460452

>>44460321
Irys birthday was 20k, kronii birthday was 25k, mumei birthday was 28k

>> No.44460454

>>44460424
not your personal army.

>> No.44460463

>>44460424
NYPA. gas yourself

>> No.44460489

>>44460424
Just make a throwaway account, coward

>> No.44460490

>>44459997
>For as much grief Nijisanji gets, they don't have that many 3 views: "only" 19 out of the 101 streamers
>1 out of every 5 being a 3view shitter isnt many

>> No.44460497

Holo EN3 Announcement is in 15 minutes. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe. Believe.

>> No.44460511

>>44460424
Neck yourself.

>> No.44460524

what ASMR to listen to for my EOP ass?
no, i won't listen to fauna.
i don't like her stuff

>> No.44460525

>Kiara bad
Ok it's been 3 days, go back to wherever you came from.

>> No.44460528

>>44460161
20k max maybe even lower

>> No.44460530

>>44460321
Mumei 28k
Kronii 25k
Fauna 20k

>> No.44460533

https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1632767729160847361
Numbers.....

>> No.44460552

>>44460394
>pickme behavior
part and parcel really

>> No.44460566

>>44460321
>2022 Councilrys birthdays:
Sana: 13.459
Bae: 19.591
Irys: 20.211
Fauna: 20.405
Kronii: 25.202
Mumei: 28.009 totsu + 21.228 prebirthday karaoke

>> No.44460575

>>44460360
Sister... You promised Vox 15-20k return buff+ASMR stream >>44451126

>> No.44460573

>>44460533
are they doing it on Kiara's channel because it basically has no growth?

>> No.44460585

>>44459782
she went for a long hiatus and everyone left her.

>> No.44460594

>>44460533
>Gotta sleep soon so I can get up in time
Don't they live in the same building?

>> No.44460602

>>44460452
Fauna also had 20k.

>> No.44460606

>>44460360
Amelia the dolt coulda got 5k if she played with new music tracks before sc reading rather than during the sc reading that tanked her down aieeee

>> No.44460618

>>44460426
? Kiara is one of the best host of hololive. She's also a huge buff for collab/offcollab

>> No.44460631

>>44460333
This was unironically one of the days where we started noticing that nijiEN's recline wasn't going to stop

>> No.44460635

>>44460533
>Myth Offcollab
More Likely: Takamori OffCollab with 3 background characters who we can't even hear their voices.

>> No.44460637

how hard is it for people to stick to schedules
is this why more than half of holoen gave up on them

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>>44460433
>actually a bit worrying because the industry itself is growing.
It is natural for established streamers to reach their natural point, it is Holos that distort the whole thing with their unbelievable rate of growth for their daily live audience.

Here is the combined per branch chart again, the type of loyalty from Holo audience in the JP branch is unparalleled when talking about a 36 girls ensemble

>> No.44460648

>>44460566
sana...

>> No.44460651

>>44460360
now THAT is G R I M

>> No.44460655

>>44454622
So did Laplus reflect on her past actions and is truly back?

>> No.44460660

>>44460497
What? If it gets announced it'll be 10AM JST on a Tuesday.

>> No.44460665

>>44460618
maybe with cover audio levels

>> No.44460690

>>44459949
KFPs are always salty about the other fanbases being more popular, nothing new to see here

>> No.44460706

>>44460618
>She's also a huge buff for collab/offcollab
yeah when she is muted lol

>> No.44460721

>>44460566
Cover really has bad luck with their hires huh, the two with the highest ceilings are the laziest fuckers

>> No.44460726

Fauna GOLD?

>> No.44460739

>>44460618
Then they could change the name as :TakaMori Offcollab, becaus we won't hear Ame, Ina and Gura again thanks to her fucking memememmememememem voice.

>> No.44460747

>>44460573
Because she’s the only one who organizes the collabs. Collab organizer hosts collabs.

>> No.44460748

>>44460524
What do you want? JO material or just a comfy gfe asmr?

>> No.44460758

>>44460573
Don't think so much. She organized it, is all.

>> No.44460777

>>44460721
So the new Nijinigger tactic is calling Mumei lazy huh.

>> No.44460787

>>44460726
somehow, yes.

>> No.44460786

>>44460637
>how hard is it for people to stick to schedules
That's the pedestrian take. The true question is
>how hard is it for people to stick with a consistent streaming pace

It doesn't need to be
>every weekday at 6PM, every weekend at 1PM
like some JP girls, it could EASILY be Gura's MWF plan as long as people could count on a stream in a certain day in a certain slot with enough consistency to form a habit around it.

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>>44460490
Hey, it's similar to the $9.99 shit salesmen are pitching for their products. I cannot believe I fell for that strat. My mind went <10%. But I forgive the anon. He probably fell on that same trap.

>> No.44460808

>>44460643
Can you do NijiEN, HoloEN, and HoloID per gen?

>> No.44460817

>>44460655
Come back with that question 2months from now

>> No.44460819

>>44460026
I love the recent trend of putting holos in different outfits from other holos

>> No.44460823

>>44460777
calling her lazy is abit far but she definitely isn't the most hardworking person out there

>> No.44460836

>>44460594
They'll probably do it at Calliope Mori's house.

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less tan 16k more than 13k

>> No.44460849

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2oc1fbelG8
predict number
will IRyS get bigger number than Bae?

>> No.44460877

>>44460819
You can thank the NYmedley for that

>> No.44460881

>>44460497
The next Holo generation is 6 members, 3 EN and 3 JP.

>> No.44460885

>>44460748
comfy stuff.
if i want JO stuff, i'd unironically go to JP voice works or listen to tiger's stuff (adult VA Tiger)

>> No.44460891

>>44460643
All I can see in this is
1. HoloJP inclined
2. HoloEN reclined
3. HoloID inclined
4. NijiJP and NijiEN pretty much hit their baseline again
5. Vspo acquired Met
Incline and decline seems like not a given even from this graph, not to mention overall audiences definitely grow over the years.

>> No.44460893 [DELETED] 

>>44460823
what's she in college for again? archeology or some shit that goes into the field?

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>>44460585
Yeah, yeah, Nijitrannie. We all know what it was don't try to hide it, it's pathetic.

>> No.44460907

>>44460846
HYPE HYPE HYPE. Myth showcasing their unparalleled unity.

>> No.44460910

>>44460849
15-20k

>> No.44460913

>>44460849
Probably.

>> No.44460916

>>44460394
Sometimes I'm glad Kiara is the least popular EN it makes her appreciate every single viewer in an equal way and it makes her humble, if she was Gura levels of popularity her ego would've been through the roof

>> No.44460930

>>44460635
Nah. Mori already improved herself. Unless, Kiara stays being retarded and it will become Chicken and the background noise with some occasional brapping.

>> No.44460937

>>44460849
>right after the off collab
let's see if she can catch the funnel

>> No.44460938

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZ0Zwab6Oc
70M soon pokechads

>> No.44460939

>>44460849
She should get a nice funnel from myth and fauna

>> No.44460949

>>44460902
What did Aqua's husband do to Honhima?

>> No.44460955

>>44460232
Don’t be vague, say what you mean.

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my cute wife

>> No.44460970

>>44460846
Kiara please Mute yourself

>> No.44460974

6 more minutes till EN3 premiere countdown

>> No.44460979 [DELETED] 

>>44460893
something something about marine biology or something

>> No.44460990

>>44460846
>300K escort channel
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.44460999

>>44460849
If she sings.

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>>44460232
Suisei literally just talked about going overseas on vacation with miko? Maybe it’s time to admit that peko is insufferable

>> No.44461018

>>44460949
axia, the kirito clone

>> No.44461027

>>44460902
I think I know what Panda did, but what does Kirito have to do with it?

>> No.44461031

>>44460974
Give it a rest, anon.

>> No.44461035

Couldn't Cover just ask for a $10M loan from the bank instead of going IPO?

>> No.44461039

>>44460026
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>> No.44461064

>>44460930
A lot people complained about that in chat last time. And she never know why others fans from myth hate her.

>> No.44461068

>>44460885
Here you go bro https://www.youtube.com/live/-jF2X8qIRt4?feature=share

>> No.44461070
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>>44460974
>Theyre waiting for you in the other side

>> No.44461072 [DELETED] 

>>44460893
Something like marine biologist IIRC. Doesn't matter, though, she said she is taking a break from college. It's just a matter of recovering from whatever (literal) mental issue she has

>> No.44461083

>>44460891
>4. NijiJP and NijiEN pretty much hit their baseline again
funny way of saying recline to oblivion

>> No.44461101

>>44460916
meanwhile gura is an autistic girl who doesn't even dare look at her own numbers, but she gets numbers anyway. It's weird how things work.

>> No.44461116

>>44460635
>who we can't even hear their voices.
That would require them to speak

>> No.44461127

>>44460891
>saying that holoen reclined while avoiding saying niji jp and en reclined
not so fast nijifag

>> No.44461129

>>44460146
Around Bae's number, so ~15k

>> No.44461136

>>44460846
Why is it always kiara or mori's channel?
Who asked for this?

>> No.44461138

>>44460721
Maybe, just maybe, their profit-sharing scheme favored towards the talents too much. This problem is also in JP but is magnified in EN.
Yagoo has to restructure so that it compels and encourages them to stream.

>> No.44461145

>>44460566
And to think Gura didn't even call into Mumei's birthday

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My cute daughter

>> No.44461153

What do you think kiara thinks of the other girls?

>> No.44461154

>>44461072
yeah i know that, was just curious because she mentioned having to wait for shit due to the rona.

>> No.44461159
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How come Fauna's ASMRs are a constant incline while Vox's become fused into the ground?

>> No.44461166

>>44461035
This was an opportunity for the investors that've been around since the early days to cash out, who might've been eager to do it since Anycolor's investors began to bail ship.

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You know things are bad when Vox's RP asmr barely scrapes 6k

>> No.44461172

>>44460902
I fucking hate nijisanji especially EN. I only like Honhima but let's be realistic she went for a hiatus and knowing niji audience they all left for the next big thing since there is no such thing as a chuuba loyalty to them

>> No.44461180

>>44460552
>pickme

>> No.44461184

>>44461068
>share link
sorry anon, i don't trust those because i can't see the title of the stream, or the thumbnail.
please try again

>> No.44461185

>>44461136
Organiser privileges. Ask Gura or Ina to organise a collab if you want numbers

>> No.44461199

>>44461035
>Asking for a loan when all the countries are raising interest rates like fucking crazy
Smartest /#/ poster

>> No.44461204

>>44461083
They still have room to recline though? Oh ya forgot to mention HoloEN hit its all time low in February. The best part? Non of the talent cares.

>> No.44461205

>>44461014
Yeah, that's why she's having so many PekoMari collabs.

>> No.44461217

>>44461184
Dammit! I'll get you next time, anon!

>> No.44461219

>>44461072
>mental issue
She's had a physical one since forever too

>> No.44461225

>>44460643
Huh so nijisanji jp and en is both reclining and stagnating huh
not surprising given how hololive is more mainstream in jp now

>> No.44461227

>>44461185
That would require Gura or Ina PCs. They can't with their shitty laptod

>> No.44461235

>>44461136
Because they are the only ones who organizes shit in EN

>> No.44461244

>>44461070
Dumb frogposter

>> No.44461248

>>44461159
Because NijiCN kept yabbing. The sisters are too busy leaving or infighting.

>> No.44461251

FAUNA (cripple) GOLD
>CUXIEM SLIPPED
FAUNA (cripple) GOLD
>CUXIEM SLIPPED
FAUNA (cripple) GOLD
>CUXIEM SLIPPED

>> No.44461256

>>44461136
she is the host I guess
also
>Will the members successfully gaslight each other?
it sounds like it's going to be shit

>> No.44461265

>>44461167
remember when he cried about 10k viewers vanshing mid-ASMR stream?

>> No.44461264

>>44461153
Gura - jealous
Ina - coworker
Mori - idk anymore
Mumei - friend
Fauna - friend
Ame - coworker
Irys - they hate each other/just prefer to avoid one another
Kronii - coworker?
Bae - coworker

>> No.44461271

>>44461227
Kiara's also using a laptop, no?

>> No.44461291

>>44460227
Got more for any of the Holo JP girls besides Kanata?

>> No.44461294

>>44461127
Bruh in that graph HoloEN started at 9k but ended at 7k.
NijiEN started at below 2k, ended at below 2k.
NijiJP started at below 4k, ended at below 4k.
I don't see how I am wrong in my original statement.

>> No.44461298

>>44460849
Depends.
Pros:
>IRyS has better numbers than Bae usually
>Should get some funnels from Myth off-collab
Cons:
>Didn't hype the birthday at all. AFAIK, she only talked about it during her streams according to IRystocrats in /hlgg/ and a few Twitter posts, so a lot of non-IRyStocrat probably aren't even aware of this
>No totsu mentioned yet so there probably won't be any JP calling in. Council + some of Myths at most, perhaps
>In fact, no idea what she is going to do...
Probably will get 14-15k at least (unarchived karaoke number). Don't think she will get more than 20k (her last birthday number), though
Does it kill her to shill her own birthday?

>> No.44461299

>>44461204
>Oh ya forgot to mention HoloEN hit its all time low in February.
so did niji en and jp from the looks of it
but then again the situation is more grim on the group thats nearer to the 3view territory

>> No.44461305

>>44461136
They're the ones who need to leech from their more likeable genmates.

>> No.44461306

>>44461199
Japan will literally never not have cheap money, their entire economic system is based on it.

>> No.44461321

>>44461167
>>44461159
Vox and Luxiem in general reclined into oblivion in just a few months somehow

>> No.44461323

Honestly it's way to soon for en3 it would be screwing over the new tempus members especially since they legit just got started and en3 would take attention away from them when their still growing.

>> No.44461325

>>44461101
If Gura had Kiara's mentality holo EN wouldn't recline.

>> No.44461336

FINALLY LUNA

>> No.44461341

>>44461235
not true ame also organizes shit, but only when homo are involved

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>june for sure
>july for sure
>october for sure
>november for sure
>december for sure
>january for sure
>holofes4 for sure

>> No.44461364

>>44460846
>Myth off collab in their sex outfits
Yup, I'm thinking we're back bros. The ceiling is the limit. Must I Say Based or what.

>> No.44461365

where did NijiHomo fans go?
did they really leave luxiem?

>> No.44461378

>>44460643
Every time I see this graph I'm reminded that holoEN's situstion, whilst bad, isn't nearly as grim as anons here are making it out to be. Seems like a genuine lack of interest due to a lack of events.

>> No.44461397
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what the fuck is that bump? it's like 1k viewers just dropped for 2 minutes and suddenly came back

>> No.44461398

>>44461341
Amelia was the driving force behind most event collabs before 2022

>> No.44461399

>>44461323
Good. We need tempus to die sooner than later

>> No.44461408

>>44461294
so why dont you say all 3 reclined intern kun? or are you still astroturfing here trying to mask the irrelevance of nijisanji?

>> No.44461415

>>44461325
If Kiara had half the charm Gura has, her numbers wouldn't be grim.

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>> No.44461417

>>44461035
Their investors probably compelled him to do IPO so that they can sell their shares, especially since they are startup investors, and Cover is too big to stay as a startup company. Maybe it is time for them to cash out to invest for another startup ventures again.

>> No.44461419

>>44461365
From how the sisters posts in vt it seems like most of them left for Tempus.

>> No.44461426

>>44461325
what a retard. If gura had kiara's mentality she wouldn't have blown up in the first place.

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>>44461153
>me
me

>> No.44461441

>>44461321
Seriously, it's unbelievable to see it. I wonder what happened? Something must have gone wrong in chinatown

>> No.44461442
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>Not one but TWO small corpo recently debuted pink loli vtubers with overlapping timeslots
They crippled each other

>> No.44461446

So, what caused the 8 hour outage this time?

>> No.44461449

>>44460891
>Vspo acquired Met
What do you mean???.

>> No.44461457

I will tune in to the Myth offcollab but only because it would be funny it would be funny if it got higher CCV than Kiara's showcase.

>> No.44461462

>>44461397
Weak numbers, if pekora streams minecraft tomorrow, this won’t win gold

>> No.44461479

>>44461449
basically a transfer

>> No.44461481

>>44461416
Did Zeta already pass Fauna in subs?

>> No.44461491

>>44461457
literally impossible

>> No.44461497

>>44461419
I don't think so but they must have went somewhere

>> No.44461498

>>44461446
Trannies

>> No.44461506

>>44461227
Kiara asked Mori for her setup, since she's on a laptop

>> No.44461509

>>44461417
The problem is that making your company publicly traded leaves you vulnerable to certain tactics. A lot of these investors are quite vicious and can plummet a company into the ground for a few cents of profit

>> No.44461531

>>44461264
The fuck did IRyS do to Kiara?

>> No.44461536

>>44461167
they're not doing as well as expected :/

>> No.44461542

>>44461441
Repeatedly pissing off sisters, b2 pulling out losing them their preferential treatment and domestic competition eating their lunch

>> No.44461541

>>44461408
Fine, all 3 reclined.
Fuck man, you happy now?

>> No.44461543

>>44461441
Luxiem was a disappointment for the Chinese sisters and they were also the ones propping up NijiEN

>> No.44461545

>>44460643
Do you have one for Pekora alone?

>> No.44461549

>>44461509
good thing they arent selling majority control anon

>> No.44461562

Genuine question, what’s the appeal of holoEN?

>> No.44461584

>>44461498
what?

>> No.44461598

>>44461205
Marine being a hag is just more capable of handling someone like Pekora, Marine and Flare just know to stay out of Pekora's way as much as they can and wait for Pekora to come. Migo is way too immature to do that.

>> No.44461599

>>44461449
We sportsball now

>> No.44461602

>>44460552
>Female hands

>> No.44461607
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>>44461562
they don't do this sort of thing

>> No.44461618

>>44461441
they keep doing the "own the haters" but the "haters" were just an average chink sister. Eventually they got tired of it

>> No.44461628

>>44461359
You missed february

>> No.44461633

>>44460146
I could have sworn the same thing was said for her Hitman. Anyways 9k.

>> No.44461635

>>44461365
back to kpop or whatever they were following

>> No.44461643

>>44461562
Genuine answer: The blue dorito. And Gura.

>> No.44461647
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>>44461441
Sisters left luxiem for luxiem at home and the nijien females are too untalented and unentertaining to grow

>> No.44461650

>>44461562
cute talented girls having fun, the same as any other hololive member

>> No.44461653

>>44460387
Unityfag here.
Requesting global average tracking
I want to see if the entire scene is getting bigger or not.

>> No.44461656

>>44461562
Idk i wish theyd do react content and collab with all the western indies instead of living under a rock and get with the times because english audiences do NOT want what holo offers

>> No.44461661

>LUXIEM DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS EXPECTED
>LUXIEM DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS EXPECTED
>LUXIEM DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS EXPECTED

>> No.44461663

>>44461549
Still, shortsellers exist. If they take an interest in your company they can drive the price lower and lower, until your board of directors screams in pain and fires the CEO or does whatever will make them short term gains. There's a lot of stock market drama that goes down, and this is essentially opening up the company for all that nonsense.

It's not the worst idea to go public but just understand that it leaves you vulnerable for tactics.

>> No.44461664

>>44461607
And even with EN3 they'd be at 15 members, not 30 or whatever NijiEN's up to now.

>> No.44461669

>>44461498 (me)
Sorry, mistyped 2 letters

>> No.44461683

I have a feeling after this whole pikamee debacle this board is gonna get an influx of new jannies

>> No.44461689

>>44461509
It would be interesting to know who will invest in cover.

>> No.44461698

>>44461436
It's unironically hilarious seeing nips call other cultures self-centred, vapid, perfidious and two-faced tbqh. Like fuck me the lack of self awareness from the shelter little dudes.

>> No.44461705

>>44461664
HoloEN couldnt support 30 members maybe 20 if they can build up slowly.

>> No.44461704

>>44461562
cute girls not talking about about cum and cock 90% of the stream. Also some of them have some kind of >idol journey arc that makes people root for them

>> No.44461709

>>44461661
Switch it to Noctyx if you wanna shitpost

>> No.44461724

>>44461663
they can only do that if they actually get enough shares anon andd weve already seen how much cover is willling to sell and its pretty low to the point that it looked like a scam

>> No.44461733

>>44461562
CGDCT

>> No.44461740

>>44461647
>That avatar
My sides.

>> No.44461753
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>>44461481

>> No.44461759

>>44461663
They're selling like 5% of their total stock IIRC
Ironically, with the startup investors selling their shares, Yagoo and co may actually end up with more overall power, depending on how diluted the public ownership is

>> No.44461766

>>44461669
Never respond to me again you colossal faggot

>> No.44461768

>>44461661
Yeah, Cuxiem, Nocshyt and ESPECIALLY Fatgur didn't do as well as expected.

>> No.44461795

>>44461321
It's been longer than that, they started reclining around July/August of 2022, but it was masked by buffs like the anniversary and the various returns. It just accelerated after December.

>> No.44461794

>>44461598
I buy into the rrat that Pekora is just passively intimidating. Like she just look intimidating doing everything and that's why most girls stay out of her way

>> No.44461815

>>44461663
Anon just stop talking about corporations, you clearly have no idea how they work

>> No.44461818

>>44461441
>Luxiem x kfc mega collab that will incline them to heaven.
>cricket*
I think even nijisis ashamed to give number on how many store that did that collab.

>> No.44461823

>>44461759
Sora will purchase all of those 5%

>> No.44461827

>>44461531
>the fuck did IRyS do to Kiara
Get announced on her birthday

>> No.44461840

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHsYJWtdggg
number?

>> No.44461853

>>44461321
Not just vox and luxiem even nijijp is reclining and is only masked by their nijitourist events

>> No.44461862

>>44461704
>Idol journey arc
Does NijiEN have any story arc going on? They're not idols, what are people supposed to root for?

>> No.44461863

>>44461509
It seems that the company is still under Yagoo's control, so investors cannot really control the direction of the company without Yagoo's approval.
And I bet wealthy holofags will be happy to become the floor, if they do exist.

>> No.44461869

>>44461840
>BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
>BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
>BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
>BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
BENI SEX DORYAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.44461872

Irys you retard you could have gotten double gold if you just did a birthday countdown stream as well.

>> No.44461873
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when was their last tick?

>> No.44461901

>>44461562
cute girls like ina, gura, mumei and bae

>> No.44461905

>>44461840
30k

>> No.44461910

>>44461873
Ame ticked around her birthday after not having ticked since October, no?

>> No.44461913

>>44461794
I'm pretty sure Gura was also terrified of Pekora until the Rust interaction. There's just something about that crazy rabbit that scares people

>> No.44461918

>>44461840
>>44461869
nosesex>benisex

>> No.44461925

>>44461562
this >>44461901 but without bae

>> No.44461927

>>44461901
Kys brrat

>> No.44461931

>>44461436
>japanese people apologize honestly
L M A O
More like a public spectacle and theatrics

>> No.44461946

>>44461873
For amelia a bit over a month ago and half ago or something

>> No.44461957

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBNRT2CV8pE

Why the fuck is this VOD of Kanata approaching 1M views? I scrolled through it, nothing really happens.

>> No.44461960

>>44461704
This. Idol Journey shit is the reason why I love JP. Cute girls working hard to achieve their goals. EN just doesn’t have that drive
>but Kiara
Yea but Kiara is unlikeable and annoying

>> No.44461963

>>44461862
>Does NijiEN have any story arc going on?
Clique war arc thats been going on forever

>> No.44461971

>>44461753
TICK
TOCK

>> No.44461977

>>44461442
Kiki is good while Riro is a washed up hag

>> No.44461985

>>44461840
20k gallons of cum spilled

>> No.44462016

>>44461873
Same time as haachama iirc

>> No.44462023

>>44461766
(you)

>> No.44462028

who can we swap mori kronii amelia and bae for from nijien

>> No.44462031

>>44461862
>what are people supposed to root for?
for the Family

>> No.44462039

>>44461663
Yagoo still owns more than 50% of the company and will continue doing so. No one can tell him how to run his company.

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>>44461562

>> No.44462063

>>44461872
Was busy cleaning her room, preparing for some sort of 3D (smol 3D?) for a while and making thumbnail just now, I believe. Probably was too bad at organizing and scheduling so she didn't have time to start an actual stream

>> No.44462074

How come IDs have such a steady growth potential but no real incline?

>> No.44462082

>>44462028
None of them you fucking nijinigger

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>>44460655
>So did Laplus reflect on her past actions and is truly back?
>clocking in at exactly 2h
Nah, she didn't reflect on shit, she's still her old self

>> No.44462097

>>44461705
Neither can Nijisanjk. I'm saying that even with EN3 holoEN will get more support than anyone in NijiEN. They'll also be part of hololive, not have to form their own secluded group because there simply are too many talents.

>> No.44462098

>>44461913
I think that is just typical introverts
>Always look serious because they always have to think about how to interact with people
>Rarely talk so they just do things in silence
>Move like a ghost, keep human interactions to a minimum
I am one, and I have received compliment from kids that I seem scary to them

>> No.44462107

>>44462028
nobody because as bad as those 4 are nijien females are a lot worse

>> No.44462111

>>44461963
>Clique war arc
Even their arcs are rehashes of the same old NijiJP shit we have seen already, just like their handcam and tourney spam

>> No.44462124

I have some unfortunate news. EN 3 announcement has sadly been delayed by over a day. See you guys later. But remember to keep on believing bros. EN3 will surely happen. Have faith. In Yagoo we trust.

>> No.44462129

>>44461913
she's terrified of everyone though. She's even terrified of Towa

>> No.44462134

>>44462028
enna, rosemi and selen

>> No.44462137

>>44461753
One of the weirder trends recently, I assume it's Kobo giving a bunch of subs to the other IDs. Moona has had good sub growth recently too and she hasn't even been doing anything notable, unless you count the ID kimonos.

>> No.44462144

>>44462039
What? I can swear I saw somewhere that he's only owning 30-40 something percent

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>> No.44462149

>>44461840
It doesn't seem that long ago that Beni got her bunnygirl sex costume. That one will be tough to beat.

>> No.44462179

>>44461960
>Yea but Kiara is unlikeable and annoying
I already come to term that kiara is austria.

>> No.44462188

>>44461753
Kobo is literally ID first year Gura in terms of her effect on her gen (and branch to a lesser extent) wrt sub growth

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>>44462124
Yeah, sister, this time NijiAR will be revealed fr fr.

>> No.44462206

>>44462028
I am tired of those hypotheticals.
Some will say Rosemi, Pomu, Selen. That's it.
Thinking about it will only make oneself more frustrated, like the Rosemifag who spammed about the blue dorrito buff.

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>>44462146

>> No.44462223

>>44462134
>discount irys
>discount mumei
>discount bae
yeah no thanks not even nijifags find them that entertaining which is why they tab out a minutes into their streams most of the time

>> No.44462233

>>44462028
none

>> No.44462246

>>44462129
Gura being terrified of males is nothing unusual

>> No.44462256

>>44461862
>Pomu tits cutting arc
>Nina EU fucktrip
>ALL OUT WAR LOL
>L + Ratio Parasocial fuck
>Nina vs millie&enna or whoever it was
>Ren tweetleeching arc
>Voxx "I'm not your boyfriend" arc featuring Reimu
>We are /here/ stream
>Zaion suspension
>EnnaxKyo×Luca cuckfest

>> No.44462271

>>44462223
>discount irys
Not so fast IRyStopleb.

>> No.44462286

>>44462223
Enna is better than your ugly whore, irystocrap.

>> No.44462293

>>44461913
She's still shy around her. Pekora really wants to sing with her though.

>> No.44462304

>VOD views vs CCV
VOD views is something that heavily relies on the Youtube algorithm
CCV is something that heavily relies on your fanbase and their urge and dedication
Any video could get very high views but no streamer can easily get high CCV
CCV is more important than VOD

>> No.44462306

>>44460036
He is not like Gura. He won't be defeated so easily.

>> No.44462308

>>44462206
>like the Rosemifag who spammed about the blue dorrito buff.
Kek I found that retards logic funny
>the only reason why nijifans are leaving the niji livers streams 15 minutes in is because they dont have the blue dorito logo, if they had the blue dorito logo then nijifans would stick around longer

>> No.44462313

>>44461479
>Transfer
Oh... Does that mean it's possible for Cover to transfer Kronii to Vshojo where she rightfully belongs?? Based.

>> No.44462329

>>44462144
Yagoo and his inner circle owns around 58% of the company.

>> No.44462331

>>44462221
>>44462146
We get is already, nijinigger-kun

>> No.44462344

>>44461794
Nah, just really introverted.
https://youtu.be/zhypymCEeXg
Migo being borderline obssessive to her friends dont help either. They had the same jobs since before though so they were probably really good friends

>> No.44462345

>>44462144
According to some anons, the one tech company that invested in Cover is also owned by Yagoo, and one or two chick investors are Yagoo's puppets. Some retards claim they are Sora and A-chan. Might be real.
But I don't know about the veracity of those claims.

>> No.44462352

>>44462144
he meant yagoo and his cover buddies

>> No.44462356

>>44461442
>'people' thought that thing would be a good holoen candidate
Wonder how much aviel shelled out to get her

>> No.44462362

>>44462028
rosemi, pomu, selen and petra

>> No.44462361

>>44461416
damn, that was a good outfit reveal, sadly she was overlapped by the one and only top ID youtuber forgot his name

>> No.44462365

>>44462098
That doesn't sound like a compliment

>> No.44462366

>>44462304
>CCV is more important than VOD
lol not on youtube which is why the emphasis even for advertisers are vods

>> No.44462385

>>44462304
and then there are Fauna and IRyS that can't get good VOD views ever. Unless it's an ASMR for Fauna

>> No.44462390

>>44462146
but /vt/ told me Gura had the worst 3D showcase, why do people keep re watching it?

>> No.44462393

>>44462304
Streams get pushed by the algorithm retardGOD and if any video could get very high views how come JP just don't get big VODs given the massive financial and algorithmic benefits it has for your channel?

>> No.44462395

>>44461321
>>44461441
Vox reclined around November. He had an extremely strong month in October with a 49k return karaoke and a bunch of 10k+ streams and then completely fell off. Ever since he really struggled to break 10k, with only the Luxiem anni getting 40k before the entire NijiEN branch crushed into the dirt.
And the ironic thing is that we still don't fucking know why it happened, sure there were yabs here and there but nothing that would suggest losing 30k viewers overnight.
This is why investing in foreign markets especially schizphrenic ones like China is not a good idea in the long run.

>> No.44462406

So why is everyone acting like Zion Queen of Jews was already terminated?

>> No.44462407

>>44462271
>>44462286
enna is still discount irys

>> No.44462409

>>44462028
i honestly wouldn't mind rosemi. she reminds me alot of mumei near debut.
i would've said enna a few months ago but now uh... yea no

>> No.44462413

>>44462256
>>Nina vs millie&enna or whoever it was
what?

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^>vodcoep

>> No.44462430

>>44462179
>austria
Sweden should've kept on bullying central Europe, not fuck of to Russia for decades. Turkey was their ally ffs

>> No.44462435

>>44462144
Yes. Sora and A-chan own the rest of it

>> No.44462438

>>44462406
Because she's acting like she got fired.

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>>44462221

>> No.44462450

>>44462304
They're both strong metrics to show success

>> No.44462456

>>44462366
because Youtube is a video platform and only vtubers care about the streaming side of it.... hence its a bigger achievement to get high CCV in a mostly video platform

>> No.44462457

>>44460846
I really wish I cared about Myth or Council. I just want a EN gen that is as close as Sankisei.

>> No.44462460

>>44462304
>CCV is more important than VOD
Moona with her 80k average CCV mogs the shit out of Gura.

>> No.44462462

>>44462308
Probably the same guy that said selling more concert ticket will bankrupt them.

>> No.44462474

>>44462406
She’s liking comments on her vod about how she gave Niji a shot and at least she got exposure out of it.

>> No.44462477

>>44462286
if she's that good, then where's your membership?

>> No.44462480

>>44461957
The inner machinations of the YT algo are an enigma

>> No.44462486

>>44462413
leading up to ethryia anniversary, she said how she was alienated from her own branch or some shit. was kinda dumb and funny because it was a couple days away from their anniversary. of course they say theyre better now, though.

>> No.44462490

>>44462144
yagoo owns 33% while his puppets own 15-20

>> No.44462509

>>44461599
Interesting. Did vspo disclose how much Met was worth?

>> No.44462517

>>44461840
IMAGINE
>TWO (2) VSPO GOLDS

>> No.44462533

>>44462456
Why would it be a bigger achievement to be a big fish in a small pond? Getting 1-2m+ per upload like the big boys would be a much bigger achievement akin to taking it up to those black dudes on twitch.

>> No.44462541

>>44462457
Council is closer than any JP gen besides Gokisei.

>> No.44462542

>>44462365
Yeah sorry, I am mistaken

>> No.44462554

>>44462390
>re watching
they are just watching it for the first time 4.2M subs spread across the world vs 1.2M

>> No.44462556

>>44459868
Would fuck up their branding on many levels, for one Tempus is already too big with 8 dudes and probably more on their way.
What I'm actually affraid of is that they want it to be the same universe with Council as "gods", Myth monsters, Tempus humans and then you have whatever the new girls suppose to be. They all follow some sort of fantasy theme no androids or robots etc. so I bet omega at least thought about it.

>> No.44462576

>vox and mysta slipped to Fauna with their buff content
Hahahahahaha

>> No.44462579

>>44462393
its a bigger achievement to reach 30k CCV than 300k views... in Youtube sphere you wont even be on a radar with views this low

>> No.44462581

>>44462028
Sana for Selen
Final offer

>> No.44462584

>>44462409
Who would you swap then

>> No.44462598

>>44462576
B-B-B-But muh KFC!!!!

>> No.44462599

>>44462406
Her Niji Streamlabs account was closed

>> No.44462608

>>44462406
>her official niji streamlab is gone
>updated her rm's twitter bio
>liking comments about moving on from her rm account

>> No.44462607

>>44462406
I mean she not even being discreet. Her discord, her pl, her comment on her last pl video. She most likely in niji jail, just waiting until her suspension expired and "graduate".

>> No.44462611

>>44462456
Youtube being a video platform is the reason why vod is more important than ccv anon If the vtubers actually cared about streaming they would have gone to twitch instead where ccv is king and is the one that gets boosted and buffed.

>> No.44462630

There seems to be retarded ass brats here, why the fuck is Bae doing Minecraft tomorrow instead of today when she could easily join Fauna

>> No.44462645

>>44461977
Kiki reminds me of Zeta, just way more explicitly horny

>> No.44462647

>>44462554
But JPbros say those are dead subs. That cannot be right.

>> No.44462648

>>44462579
Right, but it's a video platform... streaming is like a kiddie pool that no one cares about or focuses on, so topping the charts CCV with little to no competition isn't a big deal.

>> No.44462659

Since birthdays can't clash with the debut days and there has to be a period of at least 2 months between the anniversary and the birthday because of the merch I would say HoloEN3 will come out between April and May so their debuts don't overlap with Myth's birthdays or IRyS anniversary
Also all of EN3's birthdays will be on January or October

>> No.44462667

>>44462581
>giving selen that much of a model downgrade
Devious

>> No.44462675

>>44462406
Can't believe they wasted that God tier design

>> No.44462685

>>44462598
KFC didn't do well apparently. Poor organizing and poor receptions

>> No.44462692

>>44462028
We can swap them for NijiJP girls.
I've had my eyes on Salami, Sophia, Nozomi and Toru for a while.

>> No.44462697

>>44462406
her streamlabs got killed and she is probably in niji deaht row waiting for her graduation
im guessing anycolor is waiting for the heat they have from that stupid dramatuber fiasco to die down

>> No.44462726

>>44462579
Anon...JP regularly hit both of these criteria. Marine and Pekora get that number all the time

>> No.44462729

>>44462576
Nijiniggers were positive he was gonna beat her and get cripple gold hahahah
Fucking not even 6k RP ASMR what a washed up loser he's become.

>> No.44462733

>>44462697
They’re waiting to have their gamer wave finalized so they can bury the bad news with good news

>> No.44462731

>>44462556
>no androids or robots
did you forget about Machina x Flayon? I mean it's understandable considering his viewership but still he's there.
Honestly aside from the mixed gender shit the Tempiss designs and budget isekai theme is absolutely fucking atrocious. I hope with EN3 we'll get something more similar to Myth instead of Council and Tempiss. These is a reason they are the ones getting shit like Myth Bad End instead of the forced chuuni gens.

>> No.44462738

Anons, are you ok with an indie using holocure to try to incline?

>> No.44462748

>>44462576
you better be joking

>> No.44462761

Is there a name for the kind of coombaiting and react streaming western vtubers do? should we come up with one or even seperate them?

>> No.44462766

>>44462584
Bae in a heartbeat.

>> No.44462772

>>44462738
yeah
that blonde jp indie inclined due to it gaining 1k subs overnight and becoming a regular 2view instead of a 1view

>> No.44462792

>>44462598
I saw on yesterday thread, he doing a sponsored kfc stream on b2, does anyone know what the content about? did he just did a mukbang of kfc?

>> No.44462794

>>44462576
Kek

>> No.44462795

>>44462576
>gaming
>buff content

>> No.44462803

>>44462738
if they're a true fan, sure why not. if they don't get the references though, they can fuck off

>> No.44462818 [DELETED] 

[zalgo] vodcoep [/zalgo]

>> No.44462819

>>44462772
i only remember the redhead from the archives, don't know how is she doing rn

>> No.44462831

>>44462792
I wonder how many sponsors are still lined up from the time that Luxiem were at the top.

>> No.44462838

>>44462675
that design and rigging, all for nothing

>> No.44462843

>>44462795
nijien is so retarded that they burned all their buff content and turned it into regular content

>> No.44462845

>>44462733
Considering they announced FlopSoleil just as they shitcanned Yugo, this is very likely.

>> No.44462861
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>>44460808
>Can you do NijiEN, HoloEN, and HoloID per gen?
Not ID, but here is the
> 30 DAYS **MEDIAN OF PEAKS**, PER GEN / WAVE, EN MARKET

Here are some comments
1) Myth, with their 3D showcases and collabs, bounced right back up to over a 7k average
2) Council, after their very own eventful weeks with their outfits and the Japan Arc, returned to their (new) normal, also around 7k
3) Luxiem is experiencing a total collapse of their numbers, starting from mid August and dropping to almost half their peak, their lowest numbers since Feb 2022

then, the minors
4) Noctyx regained their #4 position, not because of any incline but because everybody else reclined below them
5) Lazulight and Obsydia continue above the 2k line, both down from their peaks but stable in their incline from their pre Luxiem numbers
6) Ethyria seems to have broken from their fall but they're right now at the lowest point of that wave since May 2022

then the midgets
7) Tempus reached their lowest point on record in the end of February and stabilized at that point
8) XSoleil, like Tempus, seems to have reached their floor around the end of February and stabilized
9) iLUNA is the wave that thought they had lost all numbers managed to lose the last bit of numbers they didn't even know they had

Notice that this is the **MEDIAN OF PEAKS**, which is heavily skewed by raids, Z peaks and similar artificial inflation of the peaks.
The same chart, but with the true average, will be posted in a future post.

>> No.44462862

>>44462738
>morality and ethics
>ever getting you success in the free market

>> No.44462867

>>44462738
As long as you're okay with the fact that you're just getting the attention of Holo tourists who won't stick around for more than a stream

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I am too bored.

>> No.44462889

>>44462648
>>44462611
take it this way.... I will be more impressed with a youtube streamer if I get to know 1000 people are watching her than if her videos getting 10k views
More respect to build a dedicated fanbase than getting almost nothing in views making you no money

>> No.44462902

>>44462803
I would say that even if they are ignorant about the game, they can do so if their paypigs wanted them to try it.

>> No.44462908

when's VShojo cripple gold?

Also VODs count for YT since that's their main souce of revenue unlike on Twitch where CCV is actually important.

>> No.44462912
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>>44462845
>>44462733
They learn from the master

>> No.44462922

>>44462361
windu overlap? unlucky

>> No.44462924

I unironically don't understand Chinman numbers. The same dude who pulled 120k doing zatsu with Peanut-kun get less number for his own tournament than Kuzuha and only 37k for anniversary

>> No.44462940

>>44462862
good business always start off with morality and ethics.
it's the future CEO and owners that change that.

>> No.44462946

>>44462861
I love how the nijifag still tries to prop up the LOE girls trying hard not to use the recline word with them even though we can clearly see a downward trend in their graphs

>> No.44462945

>>44462738
I mean there's an indie who literally stream fangirling suisei for a whole month

>> No.44462964

>>44462889
That's fine and all, but what you are more impressed by isn't reality... It's a video platform and getting views that put you on the level of its biggest channels will always be more impressive than dominating the little leagues.

>> No.44462990

>>44462831
People said that the kfc collab probably took months of preparation, so i don't doubt there might be more backlog sponsors from last year.

>> No.44463040

>>44462861
Thanks anon. The sister will be finally happy about this. Or maybe, mad.

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Now this is what I call a slip. Right at the finish line.

>> No.44463080

what is taking so long for nijis to announce zion graduation? will she actually get a goodbye stream?

>> No.44463081
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Fauna playing minecraft only 2 hours?

>> No.44463084

>>44462861
>Myth and Council has similar average
So Council actually does much better than people give them credit for.
>Luxiem still top dog
>Tempus only above xsoleil and iluna
Clearly we need another "wave" of Tempus boys. Popular demand.

>> No.44463085

>>44462889
your respect aint worth shit when the situation you are describing just makes them stagnate as a shitter instead of inclining by riding the algo
you basically just want everyone to become an indie shitter

>> No.44463086

>>44462861
>9) iLUNA is the wave that thought they had lost all numbers managed to lose the last bit of numbers they didn't even know they had
>Notice that this is the **MEDIAN OF PEAKS**, which is heavily skewed by raids, Z peaks and similar artificial inflation of the peaks.
RORU RORU RUMAO EVEN!

>> No.44463088

>>44462731
Eh, I'd say Myth and Council are on par in terms of model design
The only "bad" designs are Kiara (shouldn't have fast food restaurant motif) and Sana (for obvious reasons)
Though Myth does have the slight edge with Gura's model being so damn iconic and Kiara's still being better than Sana
IRyS's model is also decent nowadays, tho it could still be better (color saturation in particular)

>> No.44463100 [DELETED] 

>>44462873
[flip] i'll unironically break a leg if I get drafted [/flip]

>> No.44463132

>>44463081
There's nothing stopping her from overlapping the Myth collab, you know. It's not even 3D

>> No.44463151

>>44463081
she could overlap myth if she wants because that isn't an event, though i doubt she would.

>> No.44463156

>>44462945
who?

>> No.44463171

>>44463100
I will not. I will bring at least 10 other hohols with me to hell.

>> No.44463180

>>44462861
>The same chart, but with the true average, will be posted in a future post.
it's basically a firing squad for Tempus and Niji, can't fucking wait.

>> No.44463183

>>44462964
>>44462908
>For Youtube
If Youtube wants to judge the performance of their streaming platform they will give more importance to a 30k streamer than someone who gets 500k views(which any Tom Dick and Harry can get on YT)
>For viewer
>>44462889

If you want to judge someones fanbase size then sure VOD is more important, but thats never a debate /here

>> No.44463185

>apparently the new JP prime Minister said: "No babies, No Japan."
don't worry, I'll fertilize all the hag eggs.

>> No.44463193

If VOD is so important, where's the VOD tally?

>> No.44463198

>>44462861
>The same chart, but with the true average, will be posted in a future post.
kek the ultimate grim

>> No.44463204

>>44462861
Tempus, Illuna and Xsoleil aka the newest EN waves all in downfall and Idiots still beleive that EN3 would have a chance in the current market

>> No.44463212

>>44463084
council's ccv has always been okay to decent, they just have no fucking subs and vod views

>> No.44463236

>>44462861
>the ethyria drop
jesus christ and they are still the runt if we exclude iluna and lolisex

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>>44462924
Im more impressed that they all disappeared from thin air just like in bermuda triangle, a mystery that will never solve.

>> No.44463248

>>44463185
I'M ON MY WAY, I'LL MAKE YOU PROUD ABE

>> No.44463259

>>44462366
Hololive's business is not limited to Youtube. For their business model, a large dedicated fanbase is by far the most valuable asset.

>> No.44463268

>>44462964
>>44463085
Not him but why are you guys so against ccv? I mean if you are a streamer it is still a relevant number to you no matter the platform. Or are you telling a streamer to farm VOD view? But then they are not a streamer anymore

>> No.44463278

>>44462861
So what is the consensus on Xsoleil, anyways?

>> No.44463284

>>44463248
>ABE
anon...

>> No.44463295

>>44463185
Actually Japan is not that bad among the developed countries with 1.27. Korea has 0.78 fertility rate (2.1 is the replacement level) which is pretty grim.

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>>44463212
Why are you pretending that Myth's is any better in EVERY SINGLE CASE? It all depends on the content of the stream.

>> No.44463304

>>44463268
They're youtubers.

>> No.44463307

>>44462766
stonecold but i like the adamant choice

>> No.44463314

>>44463204
>Gen 0, Gen 1 and Gen 2 and the newest JP Gen which iss Gamers all in downfall and Idiots still beleive that JP3 would have a chance in the current market dominated by Nijisanji

>> No.44463333

>>44463304
Youtubers whose 99% content comes via streaming

>> No.44463343

So now that western chuuba scene is going full politics is there any hope for it? There's no real appeal compared to flesh streamers anymore

>> No.44463351

>>44463084
Council's CCV being above Myth isn't anything new, it's been that way for months as you can see since Myth's top hitters show up so rarely these days compared to their runts

>> No.44463358

>>44462509
No, transfers aren't a show of power in vtubing.

>> No.44463359

>>44463084
It's not like myth has been making it hard for them lately, but yeah council is doing okay. Would be nice if it was more than just Fauna and.......bae carrying them though.

>> No.44463362

>>44463268
>streamer
theyre youtubers anon
>>44463333
and 99% of the incline and relevance relies on vod and the algorithm

>> No.44463380

>>44463343
I will still watch Enna and IRyS.

>> No.44463384

>>44463084
Council for a long time now has been the top dog when it comes to CCV. The problem is Mori, Kiara, and Ame doing debuff shit are too heavy for Gura and Ina to carry alone.

Council's problem has always been their mind chair and things related to it like VOD views and sub growth. For instance Council might mog Mori in CCV 6 ways to sunday, but Mori curb stomps all of them in VOD views

>> No.44463418

>>44463193
The same reason there is no subs count tally. It is TOO BORING to be used for horse races.

>> No.44463427

>>44463193
https://youtu.be/_Mizxy91yNM

>> No.44463430

>>44461957
Look at the thumbnail - algo mistook it for Gura's duolingo

>> No.44463443

>>44463185
Don't worry, holo has Miko and Luna

>> No.44463448

>>44463193
its too boring and people abandoned it once myth debuted for some reason

>> No.44463451

>>44463193
24hrs delay with the new verification bullshit for a tally sounds a little boring.

>> No.44463460

>>44462304
Based

>> No.44463464

>>44463343
As long as SNORyS stays out of it, I'm happy

>> No.44463496

>>44463362
>incline and relevance relies on vod
no it doesnt.... whoever new joins the fanbase doesnt come by watching a 3hr VOD of duolingo or part 6 of Hitman .... they join by getting recommended clips or streams or word of mouth

>> No.44463498

>>44461436
Projection? Projection!

>> No.44463506

>>44463343
all your fault for saying "chuubas are just streamers with avatars"

>> No.44463517

>>44463430
They are nothing similar.

>> No.44463527

>>44463384
It's literally only Mori and Gura though. Kiara's overall views are entirely carried by her music because her day to day streams are fucking godawful. Ina and Ame are completely situational. Before she started her handcam shit near the tail end of the year her vod views per stream were even worse than Fauna's.

>> No.44463546

>>44463304
>>44463362
But they stream? Or do you think it's ok for them to be 2viewers because they are Youtubers?

>> No.44463551

>>44463496
>they join by getting recommended clips or streams or word of mouth
and pray tell anon do those people get exposed by clippers streaming or clipper vods?

>> No.44463555

>>44463333
When the vods are stored in perpetuity and are the main focus of the platform the fact the content is uploaded live at some point is irrelevant. It's important if VODs are not the platform focus and either limited in the time they stay accessable or are never again accessible, like on twitch. Hence the only "streamers" that care about CCV are on twitch because that's how you stay at the top of a category and have people find your content.

>> No.44463558
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what happened? 4chan dies for 6 hours and suddenly crap like this appears
>>44463100
>>44462818

>> No.44463565

>>44463506
But they are. You don't know how degenerate some JP chuubas can be. They are worse than nijiEN.

>> No.44463567

>>44463088
Nah, Myth's designs are better than Council's overall, especially as a set. I feel like their stronger identifying colors work to their advantage as a group. Those colors are pretty aesthetic together, Council is screwed over by the brown and green not meshing as well with the others.

>> No.44463577

>>44463527
*Before Ame started her handcam shit

>> No.44463580
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>>44463380
Your wish has been granted.

>> No.44463586

>>44463427
>a girlgroup with 2B views
holy shit i thought only BTS is the big fish

>> No.44463603

>>44463193
CCV is much more exciting. Too bad youtube fucks with them so much though.

>> No.44463605

>>44463343
no and that's good, maybe with the market dying HoloEn will actually start putting an effort

>> No.44463622

>>44463546
i mean if they cared about views or wanted ccv to be their main driving force they should have gone to twitch

>> No.44463623

https://twitter.com/RiotMAXtheX/status/1629967391072440321
>PCU is close to irrelevant
>AMA & HW pay the bills
Ignore the rest because it's offtopic
Median bros? Hourswatchedisamememetric bros?

>> No.44463628

>>44463580
Most cursed image ever created in this thread.

>> No.44463632

>>44463567
Nigga half of council were fucking sankisei colors and no one said shit about it

>> No.44463640

>>44463551
how is your question an argument against talents are not streamers??

>> No.44463662

>>44463517
Green map = green bird. Yes, it's stretching it, but there's no other explanation

>> No.44463666

>>44463088
Council's designs are ass.
Mumei's design is the most generic design you could possibly think of.
Fauna is just a fucking tree girl.
Kronii is just big boobs with an ugly clock.
Bae is the only good design in council.

>> No.44463677

>>44463565
then don't be surprised that they are diving into politics

>> No.44463680

>>44463640
and how is your question an argument agains their incline relying on vod and not ccv?

>> No.44463682

>>44463299
Hasn't Ina always been pretty shit for gaming VOD views though? Same thing as Fauna, all their fans just seem to tune in live.

>> No.44463683

>>44463605
>competition offs itself
>surely, NOW they'll be motivated

>> No.44463702

>>44463623
This guy is fucking coping because literally no one watched LEC last year

>> No.44463710

>>44463496
Lots and lots of people aren't no-lifes and can't watch most streams live.

>> No.44463716
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Goodsmile showing who are the merch queens in order
>Gura > Marine > Pekora > Korone > Okayu

>> No.44463740

>>44463546
>Or do you think it's ok for them to be 2viewers because they are Youtubers?
Considering what the top youtubers have said about it? Yeah since they said time and time again that ccv is a shit metric when it comes to growing your community and popularity
Hell its the reason why most of them have multiple channels.

>> No.44463745

So we are looping back to how lazy HoloENs are right now? Spamming topics about them being lazy would not make them hardworking all of a sudden. There must be some other way.

>> No.44463760

>>44463586
Black Pink is the hottest shit right now nigger. Also viewfarming is a thing

>> No.44463761

>>44463278
Only saving grace was Zaion.

>> No.44463786

>>44463555
For a streamer, whether on YT or Twitch... CCV is more important otherwise Twitch would save the VOD... not to mention I will get more mind share and make more money with 1000ccv than 50k views on Youtube
If VOD was THE important metric why do the talents stream? They can just record and upload the video and the ones who did that got shit views

>> No.44463792
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>39,525: Marine (Hololive)
>36,504: Miko (Hololive)
>28,719: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,285: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)
>25,095: Botan (Hololive)
>21,921: Lain (Nijisanji)
>21,006: Nene (Hololive)
>19,690: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,407: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>16,856: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,651: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>16,192: Watame (Hololive)
>15,906: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,413: Furen (Nijisanji)
>14,612: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,521: Mio (Hololive)
>14,075: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,585: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>11,458: BOOGEY VOXX (Indie)
>11,306: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,186: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,942: AZKi (Hololive)
>10,283: Luna (Hololive)

Marine Minecraft gold in a day with SIX (6) Holo girls making the tally with the bloc game, along with a first (and likely only?) presence of the retiring duo BOOGEY VOXX in their final concert.

>> No.44463791

>>44463622
I think you are misunderstanding something. I merely want to argue that your mindset of "Only one number matter" is inherently wrong. I don't deny VOD view importance but is it ok to be a 2view or sublet at the same time? No way lol

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>Make a shitpost comparing Miko and Gura vods
>Conversation about Gura and vods still continuing for like 18 hours straight if you discount 4chan being down
S-sorry…

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my cute wife

>> No.44463853
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>>44463792
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Gura, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nerumero, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
48x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
20x: Pekora
6x: Marine
4x: Toya
3x: Mio
2x: Kuzuha, Miko, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>> No.44463855

>>44463716
kek, it's clearly sorted by gen with the only misplaced one being Miko

>> No.44463861

>>44460026
>GET of Force
I now believe once again. That bitch will return in 2025.

>> No.44463868

>>44463786
>CCV is more important otherwise Twitch would save the VOD...
Twitch gives the option of saving the VOD. The reason it's not a big deal on twitch is that their video player is dogshit and nobody uses the site for watching non-live content

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Melon>irys

>> No.44463884

>>44463761
>Genshit spammer
rumao

>> No.44463891

>>44463088
Council is far too overdesigned, both their retarded lore and actual visual designs.
A time traveling detective is simple enough but extremely charming and can be used to create a lot of fun scenarios, the alt dimension Ame variants are proof of that. Council on the other hand are these weird abstract deities and the entire thing clashes very hard with their streamer persona, so much that Bae at this point is just a rat girl and Kronii might as well be just a normal schoolgirl instead of whatever that time warden crap is all about.
You can absolutely tell that Omegatranny or whoever was behind this shit has the tastes of a 16 yrs old who really fucking loves Fateshit.

>> No.44463893

>>44463418
>>44463451
There's also no easily accessible data source for it
We have 3+ CCV tracking sites (vrabi, vstats, holostats)
Meanwhile, we only have:
- an anon that tracks vod growth for like a dozen prominent streams at a time
- an anon that tracks clip views,
- that anon that pops up occasionally with interesting vod views per duration over time raw data but with a stupid ranking system that favors Gura

>> No.44463896

>>44463546
Wouldn't matter if they got big vod views and had fans/content that youtube views in a favorable light. Loads of youtubers have talked about this in excruciating detail and trying to apply twitch meta to the platform seriously and not just for fun horse racing is completely retarded.

>> No.44463902

>>44463716
Retard.

>> No.44463907

>>44463745
Unironically they need more streamers. Like I will also be lazy as fuck if I don't have anyone who share the same interest to play with.

>> No.44463919

>>44463791
No one number matters but some numbers matter more than others on certain platforms
On twitch ccv is king
On youtube vod is king
Dont let the horse race delude you into thinking yt ccv is number one anywhere outside here

>> No.44463941

Relying on CCV only and ignoring subs and VODs are only good for pure streamers. Hololive are not only streamers but they have "idol reps", whatever that means especially in the EN scene.
3D lives and MV for example need to have good VOD views with long legs.
This is a separate point. All streamers has to have big and active subs counts and they have to keep them from being dead.

>> No.44463955

>>44463893
>vod views per duration over time raw data
It's not raw data, he weights the VOD per length to debuff long streams

>> No.44463957

>>44463868
not really since they delete the vods after 60 days since its not important for their site

>> No.44463965

>>44463881
Only the model. Man i wish Hololive has more normal model like JKgumi.

>> No.44463988

>>44463853
also fun fact: this was the 10th minecraft gold of the year which already double's 2022's total of just 5

>> No.44463992

Tomorrow gold candidate?

>> No.44464003

>>44463965
>JKgumi
Too plain

>> No.44464004

>>44463868
dont you think the most money hungry company would have done everything in there power to give importance to VOD if that was profitable and important?? For someone who streams - CCV should be the main metric, everything else is at the mercy of the platform algorithm

>> No.44464008

>>44463745
Nijisisters have Shu literally appearing once a month only for shill streams and they somehow still call HoloEN lazy, just because there are other 40+ shitters to watch if they're desperate.

>> No.44464012

>>44463941
>All streamers has to have big and active subs counts
That's not a problem for Holos, is it? There is not a single Holo girl sub 500k subs and, with Kaela nearing 600k, that threshold will increase very soon

>> No.44464018

>>44463957
you can save vods permanently

>> No.44464039

>>44463881
you don't even have melon membership

>> No.44464047

>>44463792
>11,458: BOOGEY VOXX (Indie)
It nice for boggievoxx to be on the tally for their final concert.

>> No.44464052

>>44463623
this dude is a infamous retard, and this is the final cope because ibai (the spic streamer) team basically bailed them out of a luxiem-tier recline.

>> No.44464061

>>44462738
Yeah but if it's very obvious that you are just trying to numberfag then people wont be happy if you are a genuan fan and can make the tourists relate then why not

>> No.44464069

>>44464004
companies don't necessarily stray out of their lane. Twitch is not a VOD company, it's a livestreaming company.

>> No.44464082

>>44464018
nah its still unreliab and does nothing to you on twitch which is why most twitch streamers save their vods on youtube

>> No.44464088

>>44463992
unknown for now, but toya in the lead with 38k

>> No.44464093

>>44463992
Chinman. Otherwise, just the usual suspects.

>> No.44464101

>>44463941
>>44463919
nothing to do with platform
If someone is uploading a video then VOD is more important
If someone is streaming then CCV is more important

>> No.44464103

>>44463792
>26,285: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)
Wasn't she the one that had the 100k+ debut stream and was shilled on mainstream news for saving a dying theme park?
Holy recline.

>> No.44464107

I'm actually peeved that both Mysta and Vox lost. The bar was on the fucking floor and they still couldn't clear it That pathetic 6k didn't deserve to win.

>> No.44464118

>>44463803
It keeps the thread from being boring.
But I rather have a boring thread.

>> No.44464124

>>44464008
Shu is literally the Vesper yabba dabba doo meme except for Elira and he refuses to stream in general.

>> No.44464126

>>44463716
>In Japanese text written in tategaki, start at the top of the right hand column, and read the characters from top to bottom.
So basically Aqua is the most important and Gura is at the bottom

>> No.44464128

>>44463716
Washed up dog cannot be this high, its clearly wrong.

>> No.44464139

>>44463992
Chinman
3d nijigirls collab (roru)
Pekora, Miko or Marine doing anything

>> No.44464140

>>44463992
Easy bet on Hololive doing something random

>> No.44464146
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44464146

TIK TOK TIK TOK

>> No.44464164

>>44464003
Plain is still better than what the fuck Sana or Irys is.
>Inb4 shitpost
I'm talking about the models. I really hate animal girls and complicate design. Gamers is the last Doubutsu gen that I actually like

>> No.44464166

>>44464012
Sana...
Homos...

>> No.44464174

>>44464146
It's Tick Tock you fucking retard

>> No.44464183

>>44464107
EN is done. Time to come home, white man.

>> No.44464184

>>44464101
it has everything to do with platform
focusing on vod in twitch is retarded the same way focusing on ccv on youtube is retarded
its one of the reasons why a lot twitchfags who jump to youtube crash and vice versa

>> No.44464186

>>44464004
Not sure Twitch's business decisions are the best indicator for anything when their management are complete retards.

>> No.44464188

>>44464008
Hard truth is that Luxiem is one of the laziest gens in vtubing, at least one of them has pretty much always been on break since around last September. At least Myth went for over a year before some of them started checking out.

>> No.44464202

>>44464069
you got it the wrong way... twitch became what it is because this makes them most money
If you want to upload Videos then follow what Youtube judges on
If you want to stream then follow what Twitch judges on
They are experts in their respective field

>> No.44464211

>>44464166
>Alumni
>Not hololive

>> No.44464216

>>44464124
funny because a while back apparently the sisters were sperging out because he only streams collabs and no solo streams. now this is his state.

>> No.44464219

>>44464103
Nijisis only like new toys

>> No.44464221

>>44464166
I'm sure Sana's dead channel more popular than homos

>> No.44464230

>>44463861
Earlier than EN3

>> No.44464231

>>44464166
He said Hololive not Holostars and a bailer

>> No.44464232

>>44464166
>sana
Dead
>homos
They aren't Holos.

>> No.44464243

>>44464202
no; see >>44464186

>> No.44464248
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44464248

where did the sisters go?

>> No.44464251

Kiara should stop hosting Myth collabs(don't care if they won't have them without her)
Myth fell off yes but when they're on her channel one worries if they'll clear 20k. At least it's not during her timeslot too, this time

>> No.44464270
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44464270

If there's anything I love about Vtuber then is that it lead to music circles members having their own personas. Maybe a Vtuber gen that is also a band would actually work, with proper band name and logo

>> No.44464273

>>44464188
I would be lazy too if I made as much money as they did + had a fanbase that fucking annoying. Half their viewers don't even know English. It's like 2019 HoloJP where half their viewers were EOPS.

>> No.44464272

>>44461014
>The sister said that while posting the woman that adores Pekora, calls her cute and wish she was her little sister

>> No.44464276

>>44463786
>For a streamer, whether on YT or Twitch... CCV is more important
You were so close, anon. Should've not clumped up YT to twitch. It's simple, in YT your VODs gains ad rev overtime, a high CCV might snatch you a couple of akasupas, but that's a one-time thing, unlike VODs which will forever generate you money.

>> No.44464285

>>44464008
I thought Shu was on solo strike. He won't stream unless they bring back AR live.

>> No.44464289

>>44464174
Funniest shit I've ever seen

>> No.44464291

>>44463992
Koyori Birthday count maybe

>> No.44464295

>>44464243
>he says this as if neal is not a retard as well

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44464302

At this rate theres going to be a day no HoloEN girl streams (or kiara/bae just do zatsus or something) and no nijimale streams so we could very possibly get a 0 medal cripple tally

>> No.44464314

>>44463343
holoEN 3 can bring some change holo has a lot of influence so if there are some breakout talents in gen3 then it might stabilize the situation just hope for a 5 view.
Or somehow holojp is able to break into the west which seems rather difficult i do think they can held there own in the west with there talents but the hardest part is appealing to them in the first place, only way i see is holoearth that will definitely generate some traction no?

>> No.44464327

>>44464295
it's like comparing holoEN to nijiEN anon

>> No.44464348

>>44464103
3d debuts are completely horse fuckery, lain and oliver got 100k debuts and they have and always been shitters. i will also never forgive anycolor for giving lain stone titties.

>> No.44464365

>>44464302
don't worry, grim-chan
EN3 will save the day

>> No.44464368

>>44464243
>>44464186
you do know why there is a duopoly of Youtube and Twitch right??? They are only surviving because this is the only way a platform can... Mixer tried what you are advocating for, didnt go well did it?
Both platform has its own problems but one has figured out video upload and VOD, while the other on streaming and CCV

>> No.44464370

>>44464188
oh yeah. Some people really forgot that Myth went through a whole year by themselves and made a bunch of projects. I'm not surprised how they eventually got burnt out

>> No.44464373

>>44464302
The ultimate grim, I will post grim pics instead of lewds the day it happens

>> No.44464377

>>44464248
They have Luxiem at home and can actually sucking cocks in Chinese
>>44461647

>> No.44464381
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44464381

>>44463343
>going full politics

>> No.44464388

the only metrics that actually matter are the ones we have no access to anyway, at least for individual streamers
it's the memberships, merch sales, ad revenue from vods, and sponsorships
unless you want to make the argument that ccv is having a strong enough effect on all of them but then I want you to show solid correlation

>> No.44464396

>>44464251
It's the fault of the others, Kiara puts the event/collab together so she hosts on her channel. Blame the others for being lazy or incompetent, especially Gura and Ina.

>> No.44464397

>>44464327
from what im seeing its more like comparing nijiid and nijikr

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44464400

>>44463792
>10,283: Luna (Hololive)

>> No.44464403

>>44464348
NijiJP had a string of boring 3D debuts that probably soured the tourists excitement unless it was someone exciting.

>> No.44464408 [DELETED] 

>>44463792
How many Minecraft golds so far?

>> No.44464411

>>44461957
Kanata said that it was somehow posted on an official tourism article/website (no specifics so can't find it), probably a heimin put it on the website for shits and giggles.

>> No.44464434

>>44464368
Twitch is only popular because it has first mover advantage. The site is a few poached streamers away from being irrelevent.

>> No.44464460

Why is there a fight between ccv and VOD when high ccv stream usually lead to big VOD views anyway?

>> No.44464468

>>44463792
>AZKi
>10k
so Bae wasn't a debuff after all, the GeoGuessrh hype just fade off...

>> No.44464471

>>44462611
They should do heavily edited videos with giga retard thumbnail if they want vod views.

>> No.44464477

>>44464276
???? please anon dont be this retarded
memberships, SC come through streaming
The most viewed VOD for a Holo is what 4-5mil thats like 1 month membership, thats it

>> No.44464487

>>44464396
>the lazy ones are the ones who are blessed with numbers
well maybe Kiara should be more tolerable so people don't skip the collabs she hosts

>> No.44464489

>>44464302
>no nijimale streams
A quick reminder that males got no cripple golds in all of February
Even Nijigirls managed to pick up a few cripple golds.

>> No.44464491

>>44464434
>Twitch is only popular because it has first mover advantage
Same with youtube

>> No.44464499

>>44464434
>he believes this
youtube would have to poach like 10 big streamer heads at once to dent twitch and even then thatd just be like the english market let alone other language communities stirring on twitch.

>> No.44464500

>>44464368
Eh well as platforms youtube is far more big it is literally inbuilt in all phones so that's that,if somehow youtube can make there livestreming experience half as good a twitch they will dominate.

>> No.44464507 [DELETED] 

>>44464468
Overlap hell nigger

>> No.44464508

>>44464468
Azu-chan got a 15k inbetween today's Geo and Bae's Geo.

>> No.44464517

>>44464489
Top Fuxiem males were absent most of Febuary anon

>> No.44464532

>>44463343
As long as HoloEN still doesn't give a shit about politics I couldn't care less. Let those indie clout chasers and backstabbing small corpos rot.

>> No.44464539

>>44464507
cope

>> No.44464577

>>44464539
retard, got overlap by miko 30k, suisei 25k, botan 20k, lamy 13k and watame 10k

>> No.44464589

>>44464500
>if somehow youtube can make there livestreming experience half as good a twitch they will dominate.
problem is that youtube isnt focusing on streaming or on any on one thing for that matter
they are trying to become twitch while also becoming tiktok while also supposedly planning on becoming facebook market streaming.

>> No.44464600

>>44462648
>streaming is like a kiddie pool that no one cares about or focuses on
Except YT is paying millions of dollars to poach twitch streamers

>> No.44464604

Maybe, Youtube is just better for mindchair.

>> No.44464607

>>44463343
en3 is debuting with a political commentator

>> No.44464609
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>>44463955
The raw data doesn't look weighted to me
Here's the data with the ranking shit cropped out

>> No.44464615
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Let's see whether RIM can prevent Kuzuha surpass it.
(If adding same song from different platforms, no vtuber covers can beat top originals.)

>> No.44464641

>>44464517
There was still Floptyx with 5 or 6 different anniversary streams. All of them slipped.

>> No.44464640
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44464640

If I have 1 nickel for every Vtuber rabbit girl who fell in love with Gilgamesh I would have 2

>> No.44464655

>>44464487
Now imagine what these collabs would look like if those two could be assed to put something together themselves. You don't even need to imagine, Gura hosted a few last year before her inactivity spiral.

>> No.44464660

>>44464302
If it happens, the tally should just be GRIM
Winner: GRIM!
Silver, Bronze; GRIM!!
Entry into tally: GRIM!!!

>> No.44464670

>>44464640
>Pippa
lol

>> No.44464674

>>44461598
PekoMari started way before Marine becoming a hag though

>> No.44464681

>>44464411
>Put Kanata instead of AZKi
i think AZKi should keep her OL work

>> No.44464684

>>44464491
Not even close, Youtube since its inception has been one of the best video sharing platforms on the internet. Twitch is nowhere near as good in terms of being a streaming site - even Youtube is superior in the stream-watching experience.

>>44464499
Youtube's streaming stuff probably already dwarfs Twitch. There are multiple big streaming alternatives right now and Twitch management is not doing anything to try and keep creators on the site. I couldn't speak for foreign streamers, but I wouldn't be shocked to see XQC or Hasan jump ship after their current contracts expire and at that point Twitch's EN side will be crippled.

>> No.44464686

>>44464396
Like I said, don't care. Extremely rare collabs on any channel but Kiara's and decent numbers >rare collabs but on Kiara's channel and with shit numbers.

>> No.44464706

What is the RPM of these chuubas anyway? Anyone have that Millie YT stat leak? Just for the baseline on their per mil views revenue

>> No.44464739

>>44464499
So long as the big ES streamers choose to use Twitch, that audience isn't going anywhere, and I'm not really sure youtube really values an audience that basically offers nil for ad rev.

>> No.44464761

>>44462861
Can you split tempus into HQ and VG? Want to see if Bettel is enough to carry VG past HQ

>> No.44464768
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44464768

Good news

>> No.44464771

>>44464609
Which column is even the raw data?

>> No.44464800

>>44464768
OH THANK FUCKING GODS, BALANCED SOUND.

>> No.44464801

>>44464291
that's not until next week

>> No.44464805

wait where are the marine lewds.

>> No.44464804

>>44464655
Nigga Gura's hosted collabs got numbers, and that's all i care. I can't recall when was the last time Ina hosted anything though.

>> No.44464808

>>44464684
YouTube has to fix their chat and video player layout if they want to be serious about it.

>> No.44464812

>>44464146
Neck yourself, Nijifag.

>> No.44464819 [DELETED] 

>>44464768
GRADUATE ALREADY YOU FUCKING ANNOYING SELFISH STUPID BITCH

>> No.44464826

>>44464768
reduce Kiara's volume so it's even

>> No.44464837

>>44464388
>customer acquisition cost
>customer lifetime value
>return on investment
>upsell conversion rates
>payback cycle
>etc
These metrics won't be shown publicly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.44464845

>>44464819
egg-chama...

>> No.44464851

>>44460643
>>44461225
NijiJP makes more money than all holo branches. They only will recline if their numbers are lowers in the next quarters in more than one quarter and dont go up

>> No.44464854

>>44464768
I expected it to happen at Mori's place, in which she bought new mics.
Better location, I guess.

>> No.44464873

>>44464491
Retard. YouTube is the biggest archive of videos in the internet with more downloads than people in the world.

>> No.44464882

>>44464768
I predict Gura and Ina will somehow still be quiet compared to Mori and Kiara

>> No.44464885

>>44463314
Imaging trying to compare earlier holo gen to HoloEN branch.

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>>44464819

>> No.44464892

>>44464600
>Except YT is paying millions of dollars to poach twitch streamers
they just want twitch gone anon they arent focusing on streaming their plan is >>44464589

>> No.44464904

>>44464684
your bias is showing anon
also take out the IF and WHEN, talk about NOW
If I want to judge a streamer I will use Twitch metric to do that because they are the expert
If I want to judge a video uploader I will use Youtube metric to do that because they are the expert
Doesnt matter which platform they belong to, the metric shouldnt change on the job role

>> No.44464916

>>44464819
kfp janny? yeah this post right here, he's about to crack

>> No.44464927

>>44463193

Here:
>>44438459
>>44366767
>>44296398
>>44215026

>> No.44464937
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>>44464805
Marine doesn't have lewds, sadly

>> No.44464943
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44464943

Pekora
CCV 120K
Gura
CCV 67K

>> No.44464960
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>>44464819

>> No.44464979

>>44464804
Reading comprehension anon, that's exactly what I insinunated.

>> No.44464981

>>44464771
There are columns for total views and total durations there, alongside the bucketed views/duration columns

>> No.44464982

Council wishes it had the unity Myth has, hell they're already down a member.

>> No.44464986

>>44464904
>If I want to judge a streamer I will use Twitch metric to do that because they are the expert

right now, Youtube is probably a bigger streaming site than Twitch

>> No.44465005

>>44461138
>>44460823

Mumei and Bae are busy with school, Cover had no issue hiring part-timers for Council - no idea if they were aware what attitude Kronii would have towards streaming. On top of that as far as we know there was no pressure from management to stream more, manager told BAE that school is more important and BAE was the closest to proffesional streamer they hired for that gen. It's like they wanted side-kicks to established Myth members rather than super-stars in their own right, that's why it's hard to believe Council actually "underperformed" unless they all lied during auditions.

>> No.44465019

>>44464943
gura is shadowbanned in US

>> No.44465038

>>44464943
nigga fuck off already. We're not doing this again

>> No.44465041

>>44464986
>right now, Youtube is probably a bigger streaming site than Twitch
not really considering the biggest stream numbers mostly are still on twitch

>> No.44465043

Anon, how can holoEN grow their mindshare over asia? do a total control over them (ignoring their main country chuubas)

>> No.44465048
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44465048

Here, for the lads talking about stream frequency, here is the
>NUMBER OF STREAMS AND HOURS STREAMED, 2023 SO FAR, Holo (EN+ID), NIJI EN, STARS EN
table.

Other than Kaela, the other interesting thing in this table is that the new Tempus boys seem to be focusing on a big number of relatively short streams
Are they still on the "one hour limit" regimen?

>> No.44465052

>>44464982
>the unity Myth has
lol

>> No.44465055

>>44464804
lol
faggot

>> No.44465063

>>44465041
Like what?

>> No.44465065

Wait did Fauna really beat Luxiem's two best with a fucking overlapped Penumbra stream?

>> No.44465070

If you idiots care so much about VOD than why do you say Salome has reclined when she has better VOD views than Subaru who is our first army
Think about it!!!

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>>44464851
>NijiJP makes more money than all holo branches
You repeat that but you base your whole reasoning on a single quarter where that *might* be true

>> No.44465106

>>44464517
Dude they had each had between 5 and 11 streams,except shu. How is that absent?

>> No.44465108

>>44465052
Cope Councilshart, Myth still has all its members.

>> No.44465109

>>44465005
I'm pretty sure Cover or someone (I don't remember the stream or timestamp, does anyone else?) said they prioritized hiring people who would fit in with existing talents. So yeah Council was hired to be a collab/cohesion gen.
I wonder if they'll change that approach for EN3

>> No.44465121

>>44465108
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft lol

>> No.44465127

>>44465063
> In the third quarter of 2022 there were an average of 2.64 million concurrent viewers watching content on Twitch
> In the third quarter of 2022, YouTube Gaming Live had an average of 544 thousand concurrent viewers,
https://www.statista.com/statistics/761122/average-number-viewers-on-youtube-gaming-live-and-twitch/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/761100/average-number-streamers-on-youtube-gaming-live-and-twitch/

>> No.44465141

>>44465005
It seems that Cover is still like that, not having issues hiring part-timer ID3.

>> No.44465142

>>44465127
>youtube Gaming Live
>statista

>> No.44465168

>>44464943
both should be higher
both are shadowbanned to various degree

>> No.44465170

>>44465052
LOL all you want, doesn't change that Sana fucked off and Kronii doesn't care about her gen. The only real unity is Mumei/Fauna with Bae diligently attending stuff but being kinda locked out of the loop most of the time

>> No.44465171

>>44465055
>post doesn't say anything wrong
>lel faggot
ogey thin skinned

>> No.44465176

>>44465063
Ibai still holds the top streamer ccv with 3 million ccv in twitch anon

>> No.44465188

>>44465048
Nah, I think they just stream six times a week on average.

>> No.44465189

>>44465100
Based Niji pocketing mored2ky4money.

>> No.44465230

>>44465142
so no arguments?

>> No.44465236

>>44465176
not true. youtube has double that with a World Cup stream

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>>44465176
>Ibai still holds the top streamer ccv with 3 million ccv in twitch anon
** BLOCKS YOUR PATH **

>> No.44465252

>>44465070
People care about VODs? I mean you don't see tops sited advertising the most watched VODs. Besides YouTube Premium allows you to bost VOD views anyway.

>> No.44465268

>>44464943
Lol alright this is pretty funny, one of the more blatant examples I've seen.
Though they're probably both culled to some extent.

>> No.44465283

>>44464251
Then Ina, Ame, or Gura should actually set them up. Kiara just complained about how only her and Mori are putting in effort trying to setup offcollabs. The others just want to go to arcades together or whatever instead of streaming.

>> No.44465301

>>44465188
Maybe but they take a huge dive in the hours streamed half of that table, in relation to their position in the number of streams

>> No.44465307

>>44465252
Some companies care about VODs for the sponsorship

>> No.44465327

>>44465070
They have similar VOD views though.

>> No.44465331

>44464819
Trying wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too hard

>> No.44465334

>>44465041
You mean individual streamers.
The biggest streams are all from YouTube.
NASA, SpaceX, Johnny Depp, Apple Inc., and Sports games.

>> No.44465337

>>44463081
She'll probably overlap for like an hour or so. She definitely won't overlap IRyS though so probably a 3 and a half hour stream total.

>> No.44465348

>>44465176
>>44465245
thought we were focusing on streamers? why are you suddenly shifting to company events?

>> No.44465349

>>44465252
>top sites advertising vods
Nigger what the fuck are you even talking about. We know vods matter, cope that they don't has always been stupid. Fighting over whether they matter more or less than ccv is fine but there is no debate on whether they matter at all.

>> No.44465350

>>44465048
Looks like a lot of NijiENs are falling off in stream hours compared to last year.

>> No.44465351

>>44465127
>>44465230
anon, using the youtube gaming filter is like using only one of the twitch tags
That bias site is comparing a fragment to a whole

>> No.44465363

>>44464768
Easy 50k stream for myth!

>> No.44465417

>>44464251
>still think Myth cares about CCV when they're obviously culled
they have access to their real YT analytics anon. If they don't care about CCV, it's obvious they're not worried about it or else they would do everything on Gura's channel

>> No.44465431

>>44460974
10 more mins till new patch

>> No.44465432

>>44465048
So, 7 out of the 8 StarsEN streamed for more hours than Kiara, the highest HoloEN for hours streamed.

>> No.44465440

>>44464982
But Fauna, Mumei, IRyS, and Bae have great unity.

>> No.44465444
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>>44463792

>> No.44465451

>>44465351
So your saying we should include events like nintendo and apple announcements instead of just streamers?
thought we were arguing about streamers

>> No.44465464

>>44465283
Also why SameTori offcollab is happening and not the Gurame geoguesser

>> No.44465479

>>44464892
Proof? Is it the voice in your head anon?

>> No.44465497

>>44465440
IWNBC

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>>44465444

>> No.44465509

>>44465451
you think twitch did not include nitendo and LoL in their average? kek

>> No.44465542

>>44465479
>Proof? Is it the voice in your head anon?
Anon why the fuck do you think youtube is changing their shorts (algo and all)

>> No.44465568

>>44464943
Congratulations chumbuds I hope you have another stream soon.

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>>44465506

>> No.44465577

>>44465451
He meant go find the top 10 or 100 ccv and pick the highest streamer is more accurate then using a filter

>> No.44465625

>>44465268
VOD views just don't correlate to CCV that neatly, you don't need to call everything a cull.

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>>44465572

>> No.44465630

>>44465509
yes
same way youtube didnt put the nintendo announcement in the live gaming category

>> No.44465657

>>44465100
yes im saying this based on the most recent quarter. if it changes in the next quarter I wont say it anymore.

>> No.44465680

>>44465479
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/12475004?hl=en#:~:text=Starting%20in%20mid%2DJanuary%202023,sign%20the%20appropriate%20agreements%20beforehand.
Its also the reason why susan kneecapped fillian and all the other creators who were reliant on shorts but were not family friendly

>> No.44465690

>>44464314
I don't see how holoearth will attract many new viewers
It seems to be aimed at hardcore fans that are willing to go through hoops to get the best viewing experience and a novel way to spend money
Along with serving as an asset factory for 3D streams
It'll only attract tourists if the game part of it is good, and from the type of game it apparently is, I have doubts with only 2 years of development

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>>44465628

>> No.44465698

VOD views are important, but anyone who is trying to use VOD views for his oshi is coping hard
I am looking at you chumbuds

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>>44464943
【3D LIVE !】SHARK 3D LIVE! #Gura3DLive

CCV
>92,207


【 #さくらみこ4周年 】ゲストあり!Baby Dance Live 4th Anniversary 3D LIVE【ホロライブ/さくらみこ】

CCV
>114,775

【#兎田ぺこら3周年 / 3DLIVE】Chu! Summer Party【ホロライブ】

CCV
>142,791

>> No.44465723

>>44465350
its because all wave 1 to 5 took breaks in february

>> No.44465731

>>44465509
>avg
Twitch has far more streamers than YouTube, which means too many 2view dragging the numbers.

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>>44465691

>> No.44465751

why is kiara so unpopular when she almost has the same subs as Ina?

>> No.44465770

>>44465440
proof?

>> No.44465777

>>44465630
check the source information, anon

>> No.44465785

>>44464943
At this point this is just chumbud sucking their own dick lol. Everyone know Gura got culled already

>> No.44465793

>>44465723
>breaks
silent suspensions

>> No.44465798

>>44465109
If they want to grow in the western market like they said they really should. The girls will be successful and live like queens no matter what, but from a company perspective it's really dumb for Cover to hire more inconsistent part timers

>> No.44465806

>>44465713
1.7 mil
2 mil
4.2 mil
this is not impressive chumbud

>> No.44465810

>>44465713
Still so annoyed that shitty EN management cut Gura's Live short. She was still inclining when it ended, she absolutely could have hit 100k if it went the the full hour and some change.

>> No.44465818

>>44465713
>>44464943
>phone poster
>dumb posts
>holo vs holo
what did he mean by this

>> No.44465820

>>44462598
where's the picrel of chink lines anyway??? Sisters were saying that the lines outside the Myth cafe in Korea were all just paid employees, so I was waiting for the KFC never ending lines

>> No.44465836

>>44465731
it's not average per stream, retard

>> No.44465846

>>44465713
How the fuck Gura beats Peko and Miko VODs with all the content she puts out?

>> No.44465847

why did this whole vod views and ccv debacle came up to light right after gura's 3d?

>> No.44465848

>>44465698
I remember that self-proclaimed "chumbud" saying any "chumbud" who resort to VOD view is already given up on Gura's sub count

>> No.44465850

>>44465777
unless you have any other source for yt avg ccv then its the only one we got

>> No.44465853

>>44465751
Kiara literally got those subs out of pity, it's the perk of being a shitter in the same gen as the breakout talent.

>> No.44465854

>>44464400
No one cares about you literal who

>> No.44465858

Think she's suspended?
>>44465717

>> No.44465863

When Zaion gets "Graduated" who will be the first person to leech off of it?

>> No.44465875

>>44465698
>44465713 immediately under
kek
This is more of a shitpost than anything.

>> No.44465905

>>44465806
b-b-but anons said Gura only has dead subs... just what is it anon...

>> No.44465915

>>44465690
True but "a vtuber metaverse that holds lives" is interesting enough to attract tourists, obviously depends upon how well cover can pull it off the main focus is to give a good first impression.
Maybe a music video that is shown to everyone that enters the game,fully 3d with interactive environment and the talent dancing and stuff might be overkill but it shows how much potential it can hold.

>> No.44465920

>>44465417
They also don't care about vod views then.

>> No.44465926
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>>44465858
That looks more like her making fun of shu's announcement

>> No.44465932

https://youtu.be/yjg2yxszyg4
Laplus' taxes were three times higher than the estimated amount

>> No.44465937

>>44465854
>anti luna

why

>> No.44465950

>>44465100
>profits lagging
This is mostly because of Cover's investment in HoloEarth right?

>> No.44465961

>>44465850
check the source information of that statista document, anon

>> No.44465972

Eagle bros, we are never getting our 50k stream...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtCFzNMhJQQ

>> No.44465975

>>44465698
>>44465713
its poetic coincidence

>> No.44465982

God you guys are just as bad as the sisters

>> No.44465988

>>44462144
It's from their recent financial report for the IPO iirc, but I don't have the pic handy

>> No.44466008

>>44465847
Nothing else interesting to talk about

>> No.44466011

>>44465961
already did anon, and?

>> No.44466015

>>44465937
Hololive = shit

>> No.44466019

>>44461698
>>44461931
anon you're reading a deepl post from some SEAfag on their board...

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44466032

What the fuck is this

>> No.44466042

>>44465858
>>44465926
Yeah this shit really sound full of irony, is she always like this ?

>> No.44466054

>>44461562
try /hlgg/ for people that actually watch them

>> No.44466071
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44466071

>>44465657
>yes im saying this based on the most recent quarter.
You realize one quarter is three months, right? And that not every company has their strongest quarter in the same quarter?

With that said, Anycolor has never ever Ever EVER had even a single quarter with a lower sales revenue than COVER.
They can't and shouldn't. they have a much bigger "inventory" of products than their competitor
>115 streamer channels in their JP branch alone with at least one stream in 2023 (discounting the merged in ID and KR) versus 75 from ALL branches and agencies under COVER

They never ever had a lower sales revenue than Hololive but the fact the gap dropped that much points out to a future when even in that metric they might end up getting outranked, which would be absolutely preposterous

>> No.44466070

>>44466011
it literally said that it combined all streams and channels, including official channels for world and regional tournaments

>> No.44466073

>>44465932
Oh no, another Mysta situation?

>> No.44466082

>>44466042
yes, but it's "just bantz"

>> No.44466104

>>44465542
>>44465680
Im talking about the claims about YT wanting twitch gone. I don't care about no shorts.

>> No.44466117

>>44466042
Wouldn't be surprised if she herself posted that screenshot.

>> No.44466122

>>44466071
the gap is closing down

>> No.44466125

>>44466032
that's like 90s tomboy fashion

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>>44465810
>hit 100k if it went the the full hour
anon, it will hit 100k within the next 10mins (she hits 80-90k in 15mins for comparison)

>> No.44466141

>>44465950
That's sales revenue and sales profit, it only includes revenue from sales and cost from sales.

>> No.44466142

>>44461562
>I can tell you about Fauna
She is spontaneous, witty, cute, dedicated, passionate, consistent and the epitomy of CGDCT
>dont know about the rest

>> No.44466144

>>44466071
About 1/4 of NijiEN's revenue came from Luxiem.
Since Luxiem collapsed this year their profit margins are probably shot to hell.

>> No.44466169

>>44466128
And miko hit 100k in 10 minutes your point?

>> No.44466178

>>44466142
Fauna does alot of things well but she isn't very cute

>> No.44466186

>>44465932
she probably had the most sponsorship in 2022 for Holo, so make sense

>> No.44466205

>>44462803
Eh I've seen actual gaming channels play it, and it's fun watching them try to understand what the references could be about.
There are some faggots who do lectures n shit which are cringe tho.

>> No.44466223

>>44465932
These girls really need to be hooked up with accountants. Like there has to be something similar in Japan to the old keep the profits in a personal corporation and pay out dividends trick.

>> No.44466234

>>44466178
pathetic opinion

>> No.44466241

>>44466104
>Im talking about the claims about YT wanting twitch gone
So youtube poaching a couple of twitch streamers and courting pokimane with that ridiculous amount of cash

>> No.44466252

>>44465932
>3 times higher then estimate which is count during mid of last year
Her is different situation anon

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44466277

>>44463343
> EN
> VTubing
Only fools would ever have any hopes in the first place

>> No.44466282

>>44465005
Btw
Bae graduated, presumably right before her JP trip
Mooms is taking the semester off to try to fix her health...which isn't working very well so far

>> No.44466291

>>44466169
>your point
??? I was just plotting anon's prediction for when Gura could've hit 100k. Don't be too defensive anon, Gura beats Miko's VOD views. That's what this primary thread is all about.

>> No.44466307

>>44466073
reverse mysta

>> No.44466327

>>44465932
She talks so nice.

>> No.44466331

>>44465846
How many streams did gura do after that 3D live? 25? Now compare it to pekora and miko.

>> No.44466333

>>44466071
I would let Anycolor slipping to Cover slide.
They sell garbage but with high profit margins, so it would lead to lower revenue but higher profit margins. But still, it gives disservice to their organs.
Riku, give your livers some talent freedom to make their own merch.

>> No.44466343

>>44466291
>>44465698

>> No.44466365

>>44466104
why would youtube want twitch to stay?
Remove all competitions, monopolize the distribution
Business 101, anon
How old are you?

>> No.44466366

>>44466144
>Since Luxiem collapsed this year their profit margins are probably shot to hell.
It won't, and for a simple reason
1) Luxiem are only five
2) They debuted FIFTEEN new JP in 2022 and 2023, plus TWELVE more EN in the same period

Their trade is not on high revenue per streamer, but high streamer count. Luxiem was an oddity and losing them will just have them accelerate a little harder and debut some twelve more, twenty more, fifty more

>> No.44466372

>>44466343
>>44465713

>> No.44466373

>>44465005
if they were going for gura's sidekicks than they hit the jackpot for awhile. too bad gura is dead and is ignoring mumei/kronii nowadays

>> No.44466396

>>44466327
She does now because she suffered severe anti correction. I was watching this stream and her tone seems almost like a different person. The kusogakiness is all but gone.

>> No.44466398

>>44466372
cope

>> No.44466411

>>44465863
All of NijiEN has timed tweets primed to go off at minute of announcement

>> No.44466414
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44466414

>>44463941
Anon nobody ITT gives a shit if chuubas get big VODs for a reason.

>> No.44466434

>>44465005
mumei will never finish school

>> No.44466436

>>44466333
>Riku, give your livers some talent freedom to make their own merch.
that would mean the livers getting more profit shares which means less money to riku and is a big no no

>> No.44466440

>>44466365
Clearly they don't want twitch gone since they didn't poach the biggest streamer on twitch.

>> No.44466453

>>44463343
so /hlg/ was right all along?

>> No.44466462

>>44465793
retard, most of them were in vacation in japan

>> No.44466473

>>44466333
>so it would lead to lower revenue but higher profit margins
But it wouldn't, exactly because their margin is high, a reduction in sales revenue would necessarily mean a reduction in profit

>> No.44466493

>>44461647
He looks like a fucking Thin Man from XCOM disguised as Vox what the fuck

>> No.44466510

So much coping over the fact Gura's VODs get consistently good views.

>> No.44466519

>>44465846
>Stream everyday: You have so much to watch that can barely keep up with so much content
>Stream one in a while: I guess I rewatch old streams again

>> No.44466520

>>44464943
>>44465713
why is it chumbuds who always bring out the
> VODcope

>> No.44466523

>>44466462
>vacation
getting reprimanded and if the rrats from the jp sphere are true probably trying to save face and kiss the ass of the jp clique they angered

>> No.44466531

>>44466414
And that reason is because people in this thread are as dumb as they come

>> No.44466536

>>44460846
ambribabri bribaboo

>> No.44466542

>>44466414
JP losing so VODs don't count COPE.

>> No.44466546

Reminder that correlating CCV to vods is dumb.

>> No.44466547

>>44465070
nobody itt gives a shit about VODs except newfags and shitposters

>> No.44466549
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Even today, the top twitchfags mog the top vtubers. Not even Pekora can measure up

>> No.44466560

>>44462304
>CCV is more important than VOD
This is a retarded idea that only a twitch-streamer whore can believe.
Views are king on youtube.
CCV is exclusively affected by:
- Core fanbase size
- Timeslot
- Overlaps
- Youtube's Zs-inducing bugged as fuck real-time CCV processing.
- Youtube's harsh filter for "good viewers" (evidenced by +70% engagement rate of polls in under 2min)
- Botting

VOD views have historically been more reliable metric. Specially for popular channels that have their viewership spread across the globe.
Finally, Youtube itself completely ignores CCV when it comes to calculating any sort of revenue.

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44466579

Holo vs Holo... Did NijiEN, especially Luxiem fail to secure the cripple gold again?

>> No.44466583

>>44462861
I'm looking forward to the True Average version of this chart. I don't think it will affect Council, Myth or Luxiem that much, but the lower tier ones are gonna get fucking slaughtered.

>> No.44466597

>>44466333
>Riku, give your livers some talent freedom to make their own merch.
>decentralize your revenue
Riku won't like that

>> No.44466600

>>44466510
>consistently
It might be based on frequency of streams. When that happens in the CCV side it it's called
>rarity buff
See: Ayame, Marine and Toya.

With that said, Gura has a high VOD count even back before Feb 2022 when she streamed consistently

>> No.44466612

>>44466547
And chumbuds

>> No.44466620

>>44466519
Gura's CCV/views ratio has always been insane even when she was more active
She just has a global audience and the YT algo blessing

>> No.44466624

>>44466453
I guess, but is it really any surprise that western vtubing in general was going to go this way? The question was always whether it's possible to create an island isolated from this bullshit, and so far I'd say holo has been successful at that.

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>>44465858
> shitting on Shu
yikes

>> No.44466643

>>44466579
nope but enna is making fun of shu in a members post>>44465858

>> No.44466645

>>44466549
3.2k likes to 20k CCV KEK. Anons told me likes = CCV ratio only happens to western streamers???

>> No.44466652

>>44466583
Next thread

>> No.44466656

time to bring some quality to this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ0sJQC8qkE

>> No.44466659

Twitch = CCV is king the only metric they need.
Youtube VODs is king since the onset of youtube it is king so I don't know why people discount it.
Youtube CCV is for big events like the ludwig boxing since they got sponsors so it acts like a TV show with sponsors.
For Holos if their 3D lives will have sponsors etc CCV will be more important but for now it is a glorified ads for merch selling.

>> No.44466668

>>44466071
Knowing Yagoo’s luck, HoloEarth is gonna somehow be a knockout success.

>> No.44466685

>>44460849
I'm gonna be honest I completely forgot today is her birthday until I saw this and I'm a pretty big IRyS fan. I don't think she hyped this thing at all really.
That said, she'll still probably do about what Bae got, maybe a bit bigger, simply because she usually gets better viewership in general than Bae.

>> No.44466687

>>44466579
ye

>> No.44466692

>>44466579
>lost to sapling prime playing a kusoge
nijiEN threw out all their buff contents too

>> No.44466693

>>44466659
Pretty much

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>>44466622
speaking of which

>> No.44466701

>>44466071
anon, i dont think you can make this argument of 115 streamers because:
Roa, Gilzaren, Uiha and a good amount of them dont stream
Many of the ones who do stream dont make this much revenue
So a number of members who actually make a difference is idk, about 40-50 in different levels of revenue
>>44466333
>>44466436
... ID, KR and JP all can have custom merch which they are involved in planning and funding. Nari, Siska, Seffyna, Gaon in id/kr and i remember amamiya and utako having custom merch last year too

>> No.44466720

>>44460849
20k max. 15k floor

>> No.44466725

>>44463343
politics? HoloEN is the same as always

>> No.44466729

>>44463212
Council have perfectly solid metrics, large part of their subs might be culled/shadowbanned from the subcount since their debut week i suspect they are actually closer to IRyS and from that level you need subs from outside of the established holobox which is hard to acchieve for pretty much everyone after Myth.
Problem with Council is that they have no real standouts or organizers, they were unable to take advantage of better chemistry (in comparison to Myth) and do interesting group projects because BAE is not Kiara and none of the members exploded in popularity because Kronii is not Gura and sabotaged herself immediately.
Also it's important to note they're doing fine as streamers, better than Myth on average but their impact on hololive and Vtubing in general is so much smaller. What sort of impact Kronii left on vtubing if she were to graduate today, subway and homo-drama? But still she somehow can get 15K on minecraft after a year of debuffing herself constantly and spitting on fans.

>> No.44466740

>>44460846
I'm saying like 14-15k or so, maybe it could be higher but Fauna is likely gonna overlap for at least part of it.

>> No.44466757

>>44466523
lol lmao
forget about this, i get it now that you are retarded

>> No.44466759

Good thing Fauna's game of choice for today was Minecraft. It's the one game that can save her numbers from getting raped by the Myth offcollab.

>> No.44466762

>>44466510
>>44466542
Next is Gura ccv is low because shadowban right?Gura is most popular and have the best merch sales in GSC.

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>>44466656

>> No.44466779

>>44466725
>Doesn't play HL to "support the cause, you know"

>> No.44466783

>>44466579
Their two crowned KINGS with their buff content lost to Fauna playing whatever the fuck that game is

>> No.44466791

>>44460360
Perfectly fine numbers for Zatsudan

>> No.44466805

>>44466622
just noticed 8.4k members for a guy that has streamed 5 times this year, 2 being shill streams (one being a collab ironically).

>> No.44466810

>>44466579
> Enna making fun of Shu in member post
> Vox fail to get easy gold
yeah no wonder the loop happen, all in all just your usual Niji Defense Force using random topic to deflect

>> No.44466824

>>44466701
>... ID, KR and JP all can have custom merch
Funny you say that when id dont get merch to thee point that some of their fans tried to make one but got ceased and desist by anycolor

>> No.44466823

>>44466696
>45

>> No.44466826

>>44466622
This guy needs to understand that streaming is just his job.

>> No.44466844

>>44466277
It wasn't that bad when HoloEN was leading them

>> No.44466847

>>44466805
>not a membership post

>> No.44466854

>>44466759
Fauna usually manages to incline the entirety of her Minecraft streams so it is gonna be affected by basically being cut to 2 hours, still think she does pretty good though, probably 9-11k.

>> No.44466878

>>44466542
Make a VOD tally if you're so inclined, instead of just spending time shitposting

>> No.44466886

>>44466826
I think some part of him still wishes he could be in Tempus instead

>> No.44466890

>>44466847
my mistake, im used to updates in membership only.

>> No.44466892

>>44466032
he looks like a lesbian

>> No.44466904

>>44466779
>wanting to attract both trannies and polcels for a game that doesnt even do good numbers in the long run
why the fuck would you want them to attract the bottom barrel of humanity which are trannies and polcels

>> No.44466908

>>44466805
public post my man

>> No.44466910

>>44466805
retardchama...

>> No.44466925

>>44466769
Lese majeste, bitch

>> No.44466939

>>44466779
>play it and get political
>dont play it and get political
?
Plus youre quoting a retarded ass starsnigger

>> No.44466946

>>44466414
CCVs are actually the same.
It can be affected by timeslots, consistency on that timeslot, reliance on the box, overlaps, algorithm unironically, length of the stream, time started (delay or what), day of the week, fanbase behavior (would they rather watch live or on-demand), yt being a retard, other things that could also affect vod views like clickbait, and other things I missed.
The only good thing that can be gleaned out of CCV is gross retention rate, which is actually inaccessible.

>> No.44466944

>>44466826
I think the entitlement comes from, at one point they were being regarded as the biggest male vtubers... for greedy lonely and expoliters like him get the taste of some power they get paranoid into believing they are "top dog" and all humility goes out of the window

>> No.44466951

>>44466757
so its not a rrat then
huh so thats why they went to japan

>> No.44466979
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44466979

>>44466579
Naw this time it's classic chumbuds waiting for her VOD numbers to get big enough to shit up this thread with.
It's been the same pattern with them for over two years. Her 3D showcase actually showcasing her abyssal numbers + pic related getting spammed for a while just broke them mentally.

>> No.44466993

>>44466071
Are these JP fiscal years (April start) or actual years (January start)?

>> No.44466995

Fauna MC 12k
Bael MK8 8k
Myth Collab 19k
IRys bday 7.8k

>> No.44466996

>>44466659
But vtuber vod views are not exactly that impressive compared to top youtuber

>> No.44467011

>Myth offcollab now on Kiara's channel
fucking hell holoEN really hate numbers don't they

>> No.44467039
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44467039

>>44466779

>> No.44467052

>>44466993 (me)
>April start
or rather "March end" given fiscal years mostly concern the previous actual year

>> No.44467057

>>44466996
anon low mid to middle tier youtubers shit on vtuber numbers

>> No.44467066

>>44463853
>No golds for Pekora so far in March.
Kek, her era is truly over

>> No.44467068

>>44466729
Council's biggest waste was bae, not kronii. Bae has probably one of the best models in all of hololive, and it showed from her pre debut subcount.
Also hiring Mumei and Kronii was a mistake, if they can't be fully commited and stream regularly without delays and breaks they shouldn't have been hired.

>> No.44467072
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44467072

>>44466701
The ID/KR custom merch you're talking about is jus giving them access to Niji's pixivfactory account on booth so they're limited to the items here https://factory.pixiv.net/..
https://nijisanji.booth.pm/items/4393749

>> No.44467081

>>44466995
This but unironically. Can't wait to shit on that ugly goblin after irystocraps kept making fun of Enna's birthday.

>> No.44467085

>>44466995
Two somewhat realistic projections and two shitposts
Balanced, as all things should be.

>> No.44467091

>>44466939
Because he has a back support known as HoloEn, Bae can't play the game is the best proof

>> No.44467092

>>44466995
bae too high. More like 4k - 5k
Myth collab won't last that long, IRyS will get the funnel

>> No.44467114

>>44467081
>Enna
who??

>> No.44467115

>>44466996
Same reason why top youtuber still get load of cash from sponsors while vtubers rely more on merch sales.

>> No.44467140

>>44466995
>>44467081
Kiara will raid Irys, oh nyo Aloucucks

>> No.44467148

>>44467092
I imagine, or at least I would hope, that they'll shout out IRyS' birthday at the end of it. Would be kind of shitty to not... at least Mori probably will, I could see Gura and Ame not really remembering.

>> No.44467150

Wow /hlgg/ really just talk about overlapping all days now huh. Do we actually care that much about EN overlapping?

>> No.44467154

>>44467091
>>44466904

>> No.44467156
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44467156

>>44467092
Guess which stream also got a myth funnel

>> No.44467190

>>44466701
>anon, i dont think you can make this argument of 115 streamers because:
>Roa, Gilzaren, Uiha and a good amount of them dont stream
Anon, I already only counted the ones with at least one stream in 2023. Even if I increase that to
>AT LEAST TEN (10) STREAMS IN 2023
it's still 108 streamers on the JP side alone and the ones with at least TWENTY (20) are 91 streamers.
>Many of the ones who do stream dont make this much revenue
The whole business model for Anycolor is to extract every single ounce of revenue out of their streamers, even when they do not stream.
Streaming, not streaming, graduated, three years old hiatus, that is not an impediment for Anycolor to profit out of their property and they're correct too (despite the grief people in this thread gives them).

The point made continues unchallenged: Anycolor, out of size of inventory alone, did never and should NEVER EVER get outranked in sales revenue by COVER and if they EVER do, they're in trouble because that means their competitor achieved a level of efficiency that is threatening their "accelerate" model.

>> No.44467212

>>44466729
Honestly the biggest thing is how completely cursed their channels are on sub growth. Bae and Fauna shouldn't be getting mogged by Zeta in growth
It's kinda sad but it's like you said, they're all doing fine but they don't have that killer impact.

>> No.44467215

>>44466979
>no, it's the chumbuds that are seething
>proceeds to post picrel, which is the ultimate seething cherry picked grudgepost
RUMAO

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