/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>44358490
thanks god, less chances of getting another kiara or calli
kinda feel sorry for any girl ame/ina like

>>44358784
Kiara is the only one up there that gives a shit.

>>44358895
kiara is literally the worst and any girl from council in her place would have had more views supas and actually good content, including sana who didnt last a year

>>44359185
Kiara had the most supers during her showcase. Retard.

>>44358490
I think vtubing is already at the legacy market stage, it can only decline from here.

>>44359401
Truth.

>>44359298
and? still boring and untalented as fuck, only reason she even reached a million is by leeching and forcing calli into the lesbo shit on stream

>>44359185
Numbers fag doesn't even realize she is one of the top earners.

>>44358490
I didn't know this thing was going on at all lol

>>44359401
Only in the West.

>>44358490
if homos can get a new gen with sub 1k streams then EN can get 40 mores gens

>>44358490
If they can't get 40k just graduate them already.

>>44358895
She's also the biggest debuff on viewers.

>>44358490
I think a lot of people have moved into smaller chuubas that are more niche and they can get more attention from.

>>44360329
Why don't you graduate from life

>>44359185
Nothing can be worse than Ina. Literally nothing. I'll even take a whore like shylily who talks about getting cumblasted in the eyes from irl hookups over someone so boring. Ina is as bad as it gets.

>>44358895
she is also a nijinigger

>>44359802
Just curious. Who do you think is interesting?

>>44358490
have you considered that EN fans aren't loyal?

>>44360784
So? She's an idolfag and cares about vtubing as a whole and actually respects her viewers.

>>44360329
where is the next goalpost?

I don't care how many superchats she brings in. I won't watch a collab that has Kiara in it.

>>44361106
then maybe EN should respect that. idolstuff is what makes hololive run

>>44358490
It's another episode of Ame pretending to be la creatividad despite having no talent nor charisma

>>44361221
I agree.

>>44360890
anyone from myth is more interesting that kiara, thats for sure, on a scale it would probably be ame, calli, gura, ina, kiara
>>44360633
ina is way more interesting than the unfunny shit that kiara spews every stream, everyone likes to blame calli for the actual state of westchubas, but kiara is literally a whore acting and failing to look like an idol, her past haunts her and she knows she doesnt deserve her spot at all

>>44361187
That's nothing compared to just a normal JP stream.

>>44361452
They're all whores retard.

>>44361452
You think fucking baelz and mumei are more interesting than wawa? That's how I know you're a retard. I'm not even going go acknowledge what you said about Ina because I know you're just trolling.

>>44361656
good point anon, still kiara is the whorest of them all

>>44361793
hakos, mumei, aki even choco are more intresting than kiara, only one that competes on same level of boredom as kiara are the nijishits

>>44361843
Mumei is a bigger slut for sure and Kronii admitted to going to edm concerts. We all know what happens at those.

>>44362138
Your opinion is objectively wrong. No one can disagree with me. Kill yourself.

>>44362138
That's one of the shittiest takes to ever be posted on /vt/. Never come back SEAmonkey.

>>44361191
then you're a faggot

>>44361843
Mori is from fucking Texas and has low self esteem. People start start having sex super young and she probably fucked her through the football team multiple times for social clout.

>>44362144
I mean, if we go that direction... fauna would be the whorest of them all...
>>44362311
>>44362583
cmon guys, don't be mad, m sure you are big enough to accept the factual truth and admit when you are wrong

>>44362597
I don't care how many dicks I suck, I won't watch a collab with Kiara in it.

>>44358490
>Full myth EVENT collab can't even break 50k
Dark times in 2020/2021 that was easy 80-100k

>>44363126
It already peaked at 51k and is on its way down.

>>44362914
Fauna is indeed a whore as all western women are. They are forged that way anon. Japanese women are the only ones who won't let us down and you still have to be careful.

50k peak, ahaha

>>44363375
Fauna actually gives a shit about her craft I don't give a fuck about her personal life. And if she hypothetically had a long time BF she's less of a whore then the other girls jumping from dick to dick in Japan.

I dunno about you guys but what do you expected, this is an infomercial, I don't have adblock installed so I get more ads in my shows

Is anyone even buying any of this shitty merch?

>>44363375
until you marry them, asian womans go full mating season after the fifth year of marriage while you are out working, marry one and take it the fuck out of japan

>>44363684
Japanese women don't like Japanese men. That's why their birthrates are so low. No one is fucking over there. If you think the west has an incel problem you have no idea how bad it in Japan.

>>44363440
(67405 + 63181+ 42134 + 39353 + 36538) ÷ 5 = 49722

That's amazing!

>>44364134
Lol wtf are you talking about? Women in Japan don't fuck Japanese dudes because they have 3 inch penes and they look ugly af.

>>44364155
kiara is a debuff wherever she goes, is quite impressive

>>44358490
GOOD

>>44363684
Fauna is a whore. She is a good streamer but still a whore. This is a fact. The sun glows and produces heat but it's also yellow.

>>44364325
not about that you retard, married japanese womans have a high as fuck rate of cheating and incest, not because their small dick husbands dont fuck them, because they see each other only on the weekend while the woman stays 99% of her time inside the house, they get bored and go out to get fucked by anyone, be a gaijin or another small dick japanese, they even fuck their own kids out of desperation

>>44364155
A year ago Ina was fighting with Kiara for the runt spot.
Now Ina inclined massively after the 3 month ghosting + Homo collab song.
Why does being a cunt work for some but not for others?

>>44358895
I wish Kiara had been gen 2 so you egg cucks could see just how nothingburger she is. She literally puts in the most hours and has the biggest past with idol culture yet she's THE bottom of the EN branch in terms of CCV consistently.

If it weren't for her First EN Gen buffs, she'd be sitting down around Fauna of Bae in terms of sub numbers at best. In other words, hard work and passion for the industry don't mean shit if you don't have a personality and talent to go along with it. All she has is pathetic simps willing to toss money at her.

>>44364906
Lies. Western women are the biggest whores on earth and I will not back down. Japanese don't even come close.

>>44360109
The first branch of the EN guys consistently was in the 1.5k - 3k range. Try harder sister.

>>44365016
Kiara streams at fucking 3am in the morning. She's literally streaming for English men in a fucking JP timeslot. That's why her views are so low.

>>44358490
Shamefuru dispray

>>44365279
Hello timeslot cope my old friend.

This song sucks and certainly doesn't help them.

>>44365515
She stream when most Americans are at work where every other EN member streams from when most people get home from work.

>EN jackasses want comedy instead of idolstuff (the core of hololive)
>surprised that the idolstuff is the weakest of all three branches

>>44365081
is not about whoring contest, is about when they whore out, westerns go on fucksprees till they reach 30 and go out to catch someone stupid enough to not be married till then, japanese womans save themselvs until marriege, after not getting their needs satisfied because their husband works 16 hours per day except sundays, they go insane for any dick that they come across, thats why m telling you, marry a jp woman, and take it the fuck out of japan, any place in the world will give you a work that actually lets you see your family and fuck your wife

>>44361187

Gura alone got 66k, so that was the bottom metric goalpost for me. If they couldn't even hit her solo numbers as a collective of 5 different communities all together it's a failure as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not even moving the goalpost, they literally couldn't even meet my bottom expectations.

I wonder how many live viewers the NijiEN concert would have gotten...

>>44364906
You're telling me 5 weeb late bloomers don't have yellow fever? You're telling me jap men don't all wanna fuck white bitches?

I don't even watch Hololive, but why are you guys so obsessed with their numbers? They're literally the number 1 EN Vtuber group.

>>44365891
2000 actual people and 60-70k bots

>>44365279
>>44365722
I mean there are 24 hrs in a day. Just set an alarm clock and stream in a better time slot.

>>44366070
Retard drama queens, either enjoy the verbal moshpit or ignore it

>>44366070
because numbers are everything, and these idiots don't appreciate how good their talents are.

That was it?
That was fucking it?
Yikes

>>44366070
They're only obsessed with the numbers when it fits the imminent graduation narrative. When you mention their preferred failing 2view, you become a numbersfag.

>>44364155
Men no longer desire large breasts. Take notes, Yagoo. This is why Council failed.

>>44365722
maybe she should do more JP streams but they hate her too

>>44366183
She can't just steal others time slots now that they are established can she?
She has a very lower viewer core that donates well in the EU that she doesn't want to alienate either.

>>44366070
What the fuck else are we going to talk about around here? We have 2 topics.

1) streamer bad
2) women are sluts

Or some combination of the 2.

>Numbers Numbers Numbers
Retards don’t realize that numbers are made from tourists and randoms viewers that comes from youtube algorithm.
The stream is on the main channel, of fucking course the numbers are garbage.

>>44365803
Where have you been when the discussion about debuff members was in full swing?

>>44365750
>ignores 92k from Gura's 3D live
Nah its that the Hololive fanbase went to war with each other of tempiss and killed off all the weak people who left.

>>44366506

Puffy Shark Cunny TuT TuT

>>44358490
>shit number thread (already autodelete material)
>just devolves into calling people whores
/vt/ was a mistake

>>44364919

The last time Ina and Kiara were close is back near their 1M days. Since then, Ina has pulled further and further away, both in subs and CCV. She was well and truly ahead of Kiara long before she left for her 3 months and when she came back she was even stronger than before she left as people realized how much they missed her and how good she was.

>>44365722
Even if the time slot were a valid defense, it's her choice to stream at stupid hours. Also, where are all those EU bros we constantly hear about being "The untapped market"? If it truly were untapped, she'd be THE number one as it fits their time slot the best.

Toss all the cope you like, she is a nothingburger, period.

>>44366507
She doesn't stream EU times. it is 11pm JST which is 3pm GMT+1.

>>44366540

It's a false argument. Even if 5k of Gura's people decided not to watch because Kiara was there, 5k different people from Mori's chat would fill that hole. You're literally implying that there are enough people who decide "I'm not going to watch X because of Y" is more than "I'm going to watch to support Y even though Z is going to be there." It's just pathetic really that you think there are that many incel level people.

YOU DUMB NIJI LOVING FUCKS. ITS ON THE HOLOLIVE ENGLISH CHANNEL WHICH HARDLY ANYONE IS SUBBED TO

They didn't even announce the US concert!? Why did I even watch that?

Oof, imagine how retarded every negro ITT feels now after that pure kino.

And out come the Niji shitters who are jealous of Myth. Your en whores will always been 2nd rate. You wanna know how 2nd rate they are? They talk to fucking vtuber news channels cause they need the publicity lol

>>44367005
Ina is the worst holo and if she was indie she would be a 1 view who only does drawing streams. Gtfo faggot.

>>44367645
So true sister, where do I get my gift card?

>>44367005
She stream at like 7oclock her time. That's like 6pm for England. Those are pretty close to primetime hours there.

>>44367757
Isn't it about time for your next Adderall dose, zoomer?

>>44358490
Well... Mori and Ame are there.
That ruins the cgdct feeling already

>>44367947
The truth is hard to accept. Ina is shit. It's an empirical, measurable, and mathematically provable fact.

>>44359401
That's not accurate. The human-vtubing will decline, but AI-vtubing is the future. It will replace both vtubers and fleshtubers.

>>44367306
>mori chat filling any holes
If anything Mori is the biggest debuff of all.

>>44368400
Can we just all come to a general consensus that these women are whores and go to bed?

>>44368090
I'm a cgdct purest but I tuned in to support the others and felt obligated. I'm OP, I just think it's sad that they're fizzling away like this.

>>44360633
What the fuck did you just fucking say about Ina, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills.

I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands.

Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.

But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.

You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>44368269
My cock will replace fauna's fleshlight. It's the future. People are scared of it but it's coming.

>close with their worst song
>no LA concert announcement
>shitty merch / more acrylic stands
>low low lowww numbers
We've been waiting 2+years for that?

>>44368614
Has any company made "parody" onaholes for any holomems? I've seen a few for some anime.

If Niji shitposters are already ass-blasted by this Kino. I don’t want to see what it’s going to be for 4th fes kek

>>44368702
>muh numbers
Jesus christ is that all guys ever think about

nijisis you should care about your livers more first
Your "best" wave are bunch of 1k shitters nowadays

Only EOPs care about EN. EOPs will still tune in to watch JP stuff, but the JPs wont adjust their schedules to watch the EN branch. The real marker of failure will be the number of vod watches later.

>>44368977
WHORES. SLUTS. AHHHHHH

>>44368609
>Takos using the navy seals pasta
>unironically
I'm getting old

>>44367627
I loovee how they literally need to force Ame to get close to Gura. Fuck off amesamefags your ship is at the bottom of the sea.

>>44369186
>Behind every valid criticism of Hololive, is the Nijishill
I honestly envy the level of spooky you make Nijisisters seem

>>44367571
ITS ANTI ITALIAN DISCRIMINATION

WHERE'S MY HOLOLIVE ITALIA HUH?

>>44369562
I told Ame not to get close to the other girls because I'm jealous and she "ok I love you daddy"

>>44369736
>valid

>>44358490
Cope and Seethe
They got 57k in the end anyways

>>44366070
real shit its probably /jp/ dogfuckers who are seething becuase they want EN to die

>>44358490
>we
you don't even watch hololive, bro, otherwise you wouldn't have made a disingenuous post in the middle of the stream...

>>44358490

>>44370103
umm congratulation... I guess..

>>44370103
grim

>>44370103
57k is good for the holoEN channel but was low for the first Myth 3D collab. When IRyS got her redesign on Saturday night NA (Sunday morning JP) the CCV got to 89k. The JP audience is losing interest in holoEN events so the numbers continue to recline.

>>44364325
>Women in Japan don't fuck Japanese dudes
It's actually the opposite and gaijin hunters are 35+ whores who think white men are cuck who will accept their 100+ bodycount

>>44373842
>JP tourists
Tourists can bring you big numbers in events for sure but they won't stay at your normal streams anyways

>>44358490
Yes, and you don't need to thank me.
I'm just doing my part to save the world from EN Vtubing.

>>44370145
Cope
Your shart doesn't belong in /hlg/

>>44358490
Fucking dead like this thread and OP soon

>>44358490
>Anti-thread gets to stay up after being BTFO
Sugoi, how do these tards do it. Oh yeah, tranny jannies.

>>44358490
Didn’t watch, try putting it on a channel that doesn’t support Tempiss if you want me to give a fuck.

blame whoever the fuck you want but if I see that pink lard I'll always click do not recommend the channel

>>44374966
>Omegatroon
Disgusting

>>44374995
>mori still living rent free in people's heads in current year

>>44373842
Most of Myth doesn't stream, it isn't surprising that their fans have moved on.
Their 3d doesn't feel like a celebration but an obligation so it isn't drawing in people who are general fans of all the girls.

>>44374966
>>44375145
You know for a group that dislike males you sure like to bring them up alot

>>44374995
Same, I never watch anything with that pink pig. I actually shut off any stream that mentions her. To any management faggots lurking check the Tune Out Time on the streams to confirm it.

>>44375270
I don’t follow that channel because of that, how would I even know it what’s on it? I don’t give a fuck about the company, I’m not a bootlicking r*dditor. I’ve never even heard of that channel, its obviously just the troon manager trying to feel important.

>>44360633

She was literally 4k below Gura, the golden child of Cover, the biggest in EN both in CCV and straight subs (Almost 3x more subs than Ina)

She is the 2nd biggest in EN in terms of CCV and isn't a superchat begger like the rest of them.

>>44375477
All of the branches outside of Jp have dedicated channels retard

>>44368147

She's literally the 2nd biggest EN in terms of CCV. She is THE highest in terms of CCV/subs. If she's shit, then the others are must be downright garbage in your eyes or you're just blind and stupid.

>>44358490
Do to tempest… thank you assholes.

>>44375560
And do they also inexplicably follow the troon manger for no reason? That’s clearly his channel because no give a fuck about him, he is using them to get it subs. Fuck that faggot and anything associated with him.

>>44358490
nijien is fucking dead isn't it?

sorry I was busy improving myself so they can disappear for a longer time and cuck me harder

>>44375629
By your retarded logic justin bieber is the best artist in the world

Vtubing was a fad in the west. It's still going strong in the east.

>>44370103

So the full collab came in behind the solos for Gura and Ina. That's not exactly the brag you think it is.

>>44375719
Ina is the second best in EN after Gura. Kiara is third, the rest of Myth are trash.

>>44364919
Ina has fans outside the EN fandom.

>>44375674
The channel literally existed before they even debuted

>>44375686
>Bettel, Nowa, and Magni are now the big three of the EN males
Who would have thought?

I won't watch anything with Ame in it. Her name is in the urban dictionary definition of 'gosling'. That's a responsibility. If the seiyuu wasn't up for it she should have graduated and redebuted. Simple as. (caveat: I don't really watch much holoEN, My oshi streamed for over 11 hours today and then I watched a princess practice her sponsored instrument.)

>>44375634
Rent free

>>44375789
Kiara is the bottom, not just out of Myth but EN. She fights back and forth with Mori for the lowest CCV, but Kiara usually stays at the bottom. She's got a pool of cucks willing to toss money at her though, so if you go off of superchat donations received, she's pretty much near the top.

So I guess it depends on how you're looking at her. Entertainer - bottom. Money maker for a company - top tier.

>>44375819
Most of en does

>>44375961
>Money maker for a company
Merch is what makes money for them company and she is bottom tier

>>44375876
Based. Mine streams more than I can watch. We cannot stop winning.

>>44358895
>>44359185
I hate you people so goddamn much.

They pour their hearts and souls out to you and all you can do is bitch. You're such a goddamn cancer on this world. I bet you suck the joy out of everyone around you, if anyone can even stand to be near you.

>>44377167
If you get near them, you can smell their shitty personality. Physical and mentally.

>>44376345
I've bought all of my oshi's merch, except those lamps. Looks even worse when lit.

>>44376544
When does this sheep sleep?

>>44358490
Meanwhile in NijiEN 3D collab.

>>44358490
Just wait

>>44358490
Stop being a doomer

>>44360633
Least cucked /vt/ user

>A stadium-worth of live viewers
>HoloEN is dead
Dramaqueen-numberfag hybrids get the rope

What are the most popular subjects of the EN audience?
captcha: TR4HAG

>12 million subs
>60k-ish viewers
>It's Saturday prime time

Myth is dead but Mythfags will keep arguing that it's not rumao.

>>44380348

>>44366605

>Weak people that left

Next time, have some backbone and say that in front of a Mirror so you could see the Real weak-ass making such a bold claim

forgot Holo EN even had it's own channel as i unsubbed when they kept spamming holostar shit

>>44375845
kys newfag

>already have 10 girls to watch, with dozens of hours of content per week between them
>WAAAHHHHH I WANT 5 MOREEEEE
Baffling

The EN market is full of casuals and it's a Saturday night. Do you really expect casual viewers to not be busy doing something on a Saturday night?

>>44358490
If HoloEN is dead.
Then EN Vtubing is dead.

>>44359401
Pretty much. I think we're seeing the steady decline into irrelevance. All it is bow is just twitch whores but anime.

>>44358490
Who could stand to watch that crap? They're paid to entertain and the group collabs feel like 30 mins or less of prep time was done. It's just cringe. They'd do better as react streamers. There were better streams on and I went and watched one.

>>44359401
Check jp numbers. It is still very high for the girls that work hard

>>44383689
The scuffness of some of the collab are kind of charming in a way

>>44359185
Kiara alone is worth more than all of Council. God i hate councilfags so much.

>>44358490
Tempus 1 and 2 and other stuff too killed the mood for me, it's just not the same, after the second male wave I moved to another corpo.

>>44374353
It's the double reverse opposite, your japanese waifu is a whore and japanese men don't fuck them because prostitution is legal and so are mail order brides.

>>44365768
>go out to catch someone stupid enough to not be married till then
Why would you get married at all, thirdie.

>>44380348
Council unity will have get more live viewers. They already do unless it's specifically on Gura's channel.

>>44384133
Once or twice. Everything is always scuff this or EN curse that.

>>44361191
Your loss, I like watching kino