/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>44325507
IFS HABBEDING

>>44325507
Who?
QRD

>>44325507
>true black
BLACK COMPANY CONFIRMED

>>44325693
~~suspended lolibaba~~

>>44325693
Her

>>44325507
Why don't they just hurry the fuck up and rip the band aid off, niji has had nothing but fuckup after fuckup lately just get it over with

also she's actively reading and liking all fresh comments in here
https://youtu.be/3EDUEUslPMg

>>44325507
Who cares, even if she graduates, no one will talk about it after a few days

Are they giving her the "sit in a closet alone until you leave voluntarily" Japanese treatment? Since they don't have the balls to actually fire you.

Nijisanji is a family btw.

>>44325507
kek
another termination

>>44325840
Looks like she took down her artist tags in her bio too
New model for the rebirth then?

>True black
You merely adopted the dark.

>>44326117
Looks like it, the profile pic doesn't resemble any of the previous models

>>44326021
I wanna be a nijistar....

>>44325929
>American sensitivity
>Japanese "management techniques"
Why would anyone want to work for NijiEN after this?

>anycolor
>chooses to be black

oh she gone gone

>>44326629
those irises are similar, there's a non-zero chance it's from her
https://twitter.com/_AliceCoco/status/1601754942557261824?t=3UYyoBP64Ft0sHLKiPlR8g

>>44325507
she bonked me and called me out in chat once, i don't remember what for. i stopped watching after her boyfriend(?) kept cuting into the stream.

Shame it has come to this. But good luck for her on the future.

>>44325507
I guess she will be free from the black company

Pic unrelated

You dox fags are insufferable.

>>44328326
>dox
Learn the meaning of the word retard.

>>44328251
Post the one with pubes, i beg you, i can't find it anywhere, please i need it in my life

>>44328251
>all the sex that will be lost
never watched but like aloe the art ceasing is a tragedy

>>44328437
From a fellow bush enjoyer.

>>44328437
https://files.catbox.moe/72pwdm.jpg

>>44326021
Thinly-veiled yakuza front like every Japanese company.

>>44325507
Did the twitter looney won? You reap what you sow i guess.
Over a rape joke too lmfao, half of their donation/comment to the boys are rapey/creepy as fuck too. i don't get it.

>>44328823
>Over a rape joke too lmfao
There was more to it. Overall she was too based for a EN branch.

>>44328823
Yeah vox basically does Rape ASMR. But once the mob decides you need to go, they'll use any kind of justification even if it doesn't make much sense. It's a shame. I only checked her out because of the controversy, and thought she was actually really good. I'll definitely check her RM out if it comes to that.

You fuckers better actually watch her when she comes back.
She's a hardcore genshin streamer by the way.

>>44329240
She can stream any game she wants as long as she keeps talking

>>44326957
That would be sex, I'm really hyped I'd that is true.

>>44329240
The issue with Genshin Streamers is an inability to fill dead air and it being an overall passive experience. Everything I have seen from her suggests she can make even Genshin pretty fun and engaging because of how passionate she is for it.

>>44328602
>>44328633
Thank you, thank you
Now my day is on the happy side, imagining the warm sweet scent of that generous bush, someday i will commission a version with a steamy wet cameltoe, and visible anus trough the cloth

>>44329240
Of course I'll watch her, pic related

>>44329240
>She's a hardcore genshin streamer by the way.
I'll ignore any genshit stream and come back when it's something else.

>>44329835
You're never watching her ever again, then.

>>44329896
Well that's her loss not mine.

>>44329462
>a steamy wet cameltoe, and visible anus trough the cloth
Based

>>44329240
what the fuck do you even watch with genshin gameplay other than pulling and occasionally 30 min abyss every 2 weeks.

>>44325507
I wish nijisanji would just announce they fired her or mutally agreed to end activities. The sooner it's done, the sooner she's back as her own self.
I hope it doesn't put her off from other corpos though, Phase would totally pick her up, they need someone high profile for Invaders and since it's getting more obvious by the day who she was, people might actually like it. On the other side, it might kill off any chance of PC talent ever getting to do anything with the nijis.....poor Lia.

>>44330352
This is a loaded question. The same reason you watch xyz streamer play (insert your favorite game here), to see their reactions to certain things and way they play through it. It's just the "cool thing" to hate on Genshin, it basically replaced Undertale being the one beat down because 8928478973 choose to play it.

>>44330487
Well Pippa and her are now mutuals on Twitter since yesterday. If Phase doesn't poach they don't deserve their poacher kings title.

>>44330683
No nigger, what anon means is what the fuck is there to stream in genshin? It's not like it's an infinite content type of game. Fucking genshills I swear.

>>44325507
On one hand I hate niji fans and twitters for seeing this as a W… but I also know she will be happier as an indie than work at that failed pozzed ass branch so meh

She actually replied in the youtube comments wtf

>>44332426
Replied to what?

>>44325904
You're not supposed to say that out loud though

>>44328823
twitterfags had never even heard about her before she was suspended, they literally don't matter in this situation

>>44330352
It's easily one of the worst streaming games on the planet which is why it has such awful Twitch numbers compared to how immensely popular it is.
I've never watched Sayu streams so I don't know what she does, but in my experience streams from people whose primary content is Genshin are 90% Artifact rolling and/or rerunning Abyss with different teams.

>>44329240
>watch her
lmao no, I'll stop pretending to care as soon as this shit is over

I love how in these threads everyone is a hardcore zaion fan until her content is brought up and suddenly no one wants to watch that shit

>>44332529
latest vid

>>44325904
If not for people talking about it I wouldn't have found her pl and been ready abandon NijiEN and still be able to watch her.

>>44332744
I am one of the 5 people on /vt/ who enjoy Genshin streams

can't believe NijiEN is going to have another graduation lmao.

How does Anykara not get sued to death for all their shit practices? How are they allowed to both prevent people from keeping their PL indie channel active and at the same time indefinitely suspend their vtubers without firing them? A lot of the income of those vtubers comes from superchats, memberships and other things that requires them to actively stream.

>>44332744
I used to watch Sayu every so often, but I never watched any of XSOLEIL so I didn't know she was Zaion until this whole fiasco.

>>44332886
Very based.

>>44332974
why are you ignoring the part where this only happens for people who break rules? also the non compete clause exists for every corpo

>>44332974
It's called an NDA and a contract.
I'm a fan of nijisanji, some more than others but I do think that vtubers need unions because if she has been unable to collect any pay for the past month, that is a major blow.

>>44333090
Non-compete clauses don't hold up at court anywhere in the world

>>44330487
>it might kill off any chance of PC talent ever getting to do anything with the nijis
As if they'd descend from their thrones to even look at the mortals below them. It took years of begging for Pomu to even poke Kiara just because Alban probably threw a bitch fit.
I hope the chinks also betray Nijisanji.

>>44332974
It is because the indies are too much of a coward and too poor to call anykara on their shit. 100% that any non-compete that they have signed will not hold up in court

>>44333092
unions would be terrible for vtubers, if you start demanding more rights companies will feel justified to push more rules, they already have it very good with their completely flexible schedules and freedom to take breaks for whatever reason whenever they want

>>44333090
What rules? Her latest "yab" is a tame as fuick "rape joke" that she didn't even finish. Meanwhile you have members in her same branch doing rape ASMR.

>>44332886
I don’t care for genshin but zaion was such an energetic talker it felt like a zatsu regardless of what she was streaming. Literally no dead air

>>44333204
Under a good union you'd still have flexibility with work schedules along with paid breaks.

>>44333204
No you fucking retard

>>44333209
at this point I don't even know if you fags are just pretending to be dumb or the drama tourists who ate the digest version of the facts already took over the discussion

>>44333092
The real end-game is creator driven companies that don't have useless middle-men siphoning off their donations.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure stealing from their tips is illegal, but nobody's complained to any state governments because they all want to be scammed because they know they'll make more money if they let it happen.

>>44330487
The day I learnt she bought a Luca voicepack, Lia was dead to me.

>>44333308
True, sister, NijiEN management is totally not biased towards certain groups of people

>>44333308
Drama tourists probably. They usually out themselves when they talk about Nijisanji "drama" they know nothing about.

>>44333399
>muh clique boogeyman
my point stands

>>44333399
It's not.

>>44333351
super chats are regulated by local laws and everyone in nijisanji are under japanese laws and operate in jpy

>>44333351
I'm not sure that you could really call it tips Could you? From what it seems, those tip serve as somewhat of a salary and are added together along with money received from merchandise and other methods such as sponsorships, memberships, and anything else and It's sent to you at the end of the month. At least that's how I've come to understand it I'm not in a corporation though so I can't really say for certain. But I don't think that the way that things are handled right now could count as tips.
I do agree with you though that companies take way too much of the super chats for how little they actually do. I'm not the largest fan of vshojo but I do respect their company policy of allowing their streamers to keep the full amount that they are paid

Honestly if she comes back and only plays Genshit again it might as well be career suicide, hope she's smart about it

>>44333576
lol

>>44333604
>I hope she comes back but change her content completely

>>44328435
I've seen a few retarded people get extremely pissed out about linking identities and calling it dox. The funniest one is seeing them seethe over the Fandead because their general has three vtuber names in it
The irony is that these people spend all of their time her discussing actual dox info

>>44333598
It's very obviously an online tip jar.

>>44333743
honestly the rules for this board should've been revised that time management scrambled to delete every kson thread

>>44329240
Sure, I like Genshin. Makes for good background noise.

>>44333760
I don't really know that I describe it as such, especially because of the fact that you're not technically an employee under any of these Japanese companies. Youre just contracted out.

>>44333157
The only way it might remotely hold up is in a Japanese courtroom. Anykara made a mistake of revealing that they’re too weak outside of their homeland when they copyright striked EN dramafag vtubers reporting on the shitshow that was their branch in February.
Nothing really came out of it granted, but because they half assed it they pretty much showed everyone that they’re just a paper tiger.

>>44332771
oh she gone lmao

And if it not even her

>>44333399
Anon Lauren had yabs worse than Zaion and he's still standing. She obviously just doesn't mesh well with corpos and would work better as an indie

>>44325840
Who?

>>44332030
Idol is a strong competition now.

>>44334685
Lauren is not managed by NijiEN

>>44334685
You are only proving the point, retard.
Anycolor is a black company that plays favorites and bullies their disliked talents into graduation instead of trying to work out a good relationship with them.

>>44335096
nice fanfiction

>>44335416
>nijinigger ignores the reality playing out in from of his own eyes
Doesn't even surprise me anymore

>>44330487
lmao PC girls hate niji and love holo. And pippa IS networking with holos.

punished sayu

>>44335879
becoming the new favorite of the pippafags would be a fitting end for her

>>44336075
>new model
Already?

You saviorfags are just gonna forget about her after day one.

>>44336284
It will be glorious, catalog filled with bait threads showing her redebut numbers and screaming about how she won and then the absolute drop for the next genshin stream

>>44332974
>Liver fucks up
Anykara bad! Sue them!
>Liver literally breaks contract terms
Anykara bad! Sue them!
>Liver has problematic behavior and gets fired
Anykara bad! Sue them! Burgerbro, they're doing nothing wrong as a business. I know you Americans have low standards but when you break terms of your contract you USUALLY GET SHITCANNED.

>>44335879
>PC girls hate niji and love holo.
It's a half and half split actually between holofaggs and nijifags.

>>44336284
>Delta
>Nazuna
She can leave with a significant amount of gachis, for an indie that's a pretty good deal

>>44335879
>lmao PC girls hate niji
Lia about Luca's scolding BFE voicepack btw

>>44336284
>>44336441
>we
Don’t have to watch her retards. All 54 of us sure are gonna bump those views right? This is awareness.

>>44337535
Nazuna was far, far bigger
Delta was a different situation

>gets fired from nijien
>gets hired by the fishman

how much seethe would this cause?

>>44337636
everyone would laugh

>>44335879
Lia...

>>44337636
0. It's a downgrade

>>44337624
As was Yugo, and look at where she is now, more support than ever. Sorry faggot, they get support after they leave.

>>44337221
ow poor little black company :(

>>44336441
She had a really dedicated fanbase before this, her popularity has only grown with this drama and more people will definitely follow her now. I do think some people will leave though

>>44337716
nothing is funny about it

>>44325507
Is there any other profession where you can ban your workers from earning money without firing them?

Shit seems crazy. I mean if she broke the rules, just fire her. This seems like some crime/powerplay.

>>44332700
Based

>>44337992
no, in real jobs you just get straight up fired

>>44337992
And that is one of the reasons why the non-compete will never hold in court

>>44337737
>phase is a downgrade than nijien
lol, lmao

>>44338364
then go ahead and sue them

>>44326021
Only if you're part of Elira's clique, and Zaion refused to join it.

>>44338491
It doesnt work like that retard-chama, it is on anykara to sue the talent if they are in, what anykara considers, a breach of the contract

>>44337992
No, it's partially why you see all those "this policeman did this crime so he was sent home on paid leave for x weeks while we investigate" stories in the news. Most of the reason is that they just don't want to fire them of course.

>>44337636
/pcg/ anons would be happy and somehow become even more the nijianti company

>>44338560
I thought the point you were making is that it would be illegal for anykara to suspend of fire them for breaching the non compete clause, if it wouldn't hold up on court then go ahead and do it, start streaming on your PL while suspended and sue them if they fire you and give breach of contract as the reason

>>44338920
>In contract law, a non-compete clause [...]
>The use of such clauses is premised on the possibility that upon their termination or resignation, an employee might begin working for a competitor or start a business, and gain competitive advantage by exploiting confidential information about their former employer's operations or trade secrets, or sensitive information such as customer/client lists, business practices, upcoming products, and marketing plans.
Try to work out why you are being retarded yourself Nijinig.

>>44328823
She was suspended before twitter knew about that retard.

>>44325507
The official announcement will probably happen on Tuesday/Wednesday.

I'd recommend, or any of you actual Zaimons, to save/clip videos you like on her channel this weekend. She'll be erased the same way as Yugo.

>>44339366
Was she also terminated before that? If she was then why have anykara been pretend that she wasn't for a month?

>>44338364
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/01/ftc-proposes-rule-ban-noncompete-clauses-which-hurt-workers-harm-competition

>>44339543
Reminder: all proposed federal regulations have to invite public comment that must be considered by the government.

If you are an American and you feel strongly on the issue one way or the other, it is your right to voice your opinion on the subject.

>>44339475
The biggest tragedy here is the lost of a great model. In exchange she's free of corpo's chains so that's an equivalent exchange for you.

>>44329240
I 'll only watch if she cares about lore. If she's a metafag I skip

>>44339494
Because they always do it this way. Suspension into ejection.

>>44329240
Lolno once this shitfest is over I could care less about her

>>44330487
Invaders is for vtubers who already have a model moving from a dying corp though, and there's absolutely 0 chance she'd get to keep her model for reasons you already know.
I can only hope her new model is just as good.

>>44330352
>>44332112
If you're starting fresh, there's months of content to play through.
Otherwise you do event missions, dailies/weeklies and new story missions whenever they drop. Also achievement hunting.
They've recently added a card game, so people can play that.
Base building also exists, someone with enough autism can go around farming materials to make structures etc and make in-game builds, even custom racetracks.
There are things to do but, for a late game player with most of everything completed, genshin would be a game you play once or twice a week for a few hours, not daily.

>>44341612
She has a model and the twitter change indicates she's getting another.

>>44333090
It's not a non-compete, it's an exclusivity clause
Also Hololive JP contracts didn't have one up to at least 4th gen

>>44333092
A lot of the shit these Japanese companies do are not exactly legal in the US, Europe or Canada. So I'm not sure how enforceable any of the shit they make them sign actually is.

>>44337636
maximum seethe and /pcg/ will finally get endless raids from nijisisters

>>44335879
Bullshit. They just talked about Holo more back when it was way more popular.

>>44338411
Most Phase girls stream to 200 ccv on average. Sayu was doing way better by herself.

>>44343489
Phase girls are inclining
Niji girls are reclining

>>44330487
Nijitrannies already hate Phase Connect anyway so it's not a big loss

>>44343636
Good Niji girls like Pomu or Selen are keeping the same numbers for a year now. Phase is a joke outside Pippa and Lumi.

>>44325883
Welp, boys and girls it's time to pack up and make our leave

>>44343795
and Tenma. The exception list does keep growing.

>>44343636
Keep telling yourself that. Niji males are sinking girls are doing fine.

>>44330487
>they need someone high profile
She's the opposite of high profile, she's a big corpo reject who couldn't make it big even with the massive audience Nijisanji has.
You actually expect her to stand out in the much more competitive small corpo market?
She's going to be dead on arrival.

Nijisisters are going to be making fun of you for picking up their garbage.
She has no soul or anything special to her, and her game choices are shit.
She's not BASED or menhera enough. She will fade into obscurity in Phase Connect.

>>44326021
Holo bronies keep shitting on Niji management for this but the reality is she had more videos nuked than any other EN member ever. Yes she was fun but maybe corpo life was just not for her.

>>44343896
Same can be said for Idol or Eien. People are just looking for new toys and HoloEN keeps refusing to stream.

>>44344024
nijisanji doesn't have a massive audience, the chinese devoured them like a swarm of locusts during the Luxiem era and left

>>44343853
I'm starting to think Nijisanji is bad
I await her telling vague stories about how unfairly she was treated and hearing about which members are actually massive cunts behind the scenes

>>44344296
Elira's 3d had just 10k less people watching than Gura. Luxiem declined for sure but they are still getting numbers smaller corps can only dream about. Most Niji girls keep stable numbers for a long time.

Seriously stop coping. Retards keep shitting on low tier Niji girls getting 1k and then shill corps where 300 is good.

>>44344296
In total they are prety massive, bigger than Hololive.
I check new outfit reveals,, 3D debuts, new member debuts and big collabs and their numbers are bigger than Hololive.
Nijisanji has a more horizontal audience than Hololive, a lot of different people watch them because they have more members with more niches and they check new ones out too.
Many of the Niji girls still do very well.
Arguably on par with Hololive on their weaker days.
3K range is very respectable when you consider that the average "successful" small corpo peaks at 300.

>>44344400
Can't wait for a whistle-blowing bomb to drop

>>44344400
Yeah there is probably going to be drama but she's at least 50% responsible herself. Like 2/3 of her streams got deleted.

Nijisanji EN management really wants to placate their twittranny audience huh. No wonder they hate everyone who's even remotely tangentially related to /here/. Did they actually seethe at her because she prioritized collabing with her friends at /lig/?

>>44344639
She kept saying shit that was getting vod's nuked. Not few times it was happening to half of her streams.

>>44344605
>Like 2/3 of her streams got deleted.
thats not even true...

>>44325507
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE HER LOLIBABA MODEL WHY ARE NIJISANJI ENG SUCH NIGGERS ABOUT EVERYTHING

>>44344713
oh no, the pennies Nijisanji is missing from ad revenue
that's definitely worth sending someone on a graduation speedrun

>>44344639
I bet Pomu won't be able to have one last collab with Pikamme because of the troon pandering nijien has been doing since ethyria's debut.

>>44333399
yeah they hate jews

>Fuck up over and over
>Get vods privated constantly because you cant control your fucking mouth
>Have a twitch collab tossing out endless injokes between yourself and your PL buds
>Said collab is also privated due multiple shota hunting jokes
>Stream 24/7 genshin
>Now plans to potentially comeback under the back of drama
She was a 3 view then, she will continue to be a 3 view once the drama fags get filtered by her garbage content.
The real shame is the model, its the best rigged model niji has ever had, fitting they give it to a waste of waste like zai.

Be honest guys, how many of you plan to stay and watch her.
>>44344812
Literally already said shes planning to do one with her you retarded dramatard.

Nijitrannies remind me of old /cgl/ with how much they tattletale and gossip about shit. The NijiEN thread is pretty much a twittard outpost full of tourists. The nijiposters on /jp/ took the right decision of kicking them out

Oh boy

>>44344961
Yeah she said she's planning to do one, but not that it's actually happening. You can bet management will completely ignore her request until it's too late.

Why so nijis hate her this much? Simply because of a few edgy jokes? Or is it that some people here like her and they're just being contrarians?

>>44343636
The girls are doing fine. The ones reclining are the males, and that's a good thing.

>>44343853
Oh this bitch is going to leak SO much shit behind the scenes. NDA be damned

>>44344024
fuck you Kyo.

>>44345057
contrarians here get more (you)s for defending NijiEN's management, the retards on twitter hate her

>>44345057
She kept repeating stuff that's not allowed even in Niji if she was Holo she would get Aloe'd in first week. It's a shame since she was good and her model is great but if she refuses to learn there is not much a big corp can do.

>>44345095
Finally something that can potentially bring the whole house down.

>>44345057
They literally repeat the same cope over and over like hivemind chinks

>>44345068
Males reclined hard and despite that they stil get great numbers.

>>44345057
B-But muh rules even though other members get away with worse shit

>>44334861
>>44325806

>>44344961
>you retarded dramatard
Aren't you doing the same thing by criticizing Zaion as if you're part of NijiEN management? She didn't stream to literally zero people, she obviously had a number of fans who enjoyed her streams and are upset that she's being fired. The venn diagram of viewers who like her game choices and her model and her voice and etc is obviously slim, but don't be surprised that this drama is creating a feedback loop, where the victims are people who actually liked her getting caught in this mess.

>>44345280
it's basically "don't" believe your lying eyes" at this point regarding the blatant double standards.

>>44345057
For an honest answer, she hasn't been with them long enough for the vast majority of the fans to care one way or another. The fact she had to private so many vods probably contributed to that. Some people like her character model, but when it's gone they aren't likely to follow her.

>>44345203
What did she do? Shit that holoJP members do all the time?

>>44330487
Cool story but she would suck as a corpo vtuber if all she streams is Genshin.

>>44345057
Nijien fans are predominantly femcel fujos who hate other women so this would be great for them.

>>44344441
Because it's small corpo shills shitting on both Holo and Niji and trying to convince people to watch their shitters instead
It's really blatant

>>44345145
I'm actually a Phase fan and I think we are better than Nijisanji's dumpster and if the company doesn't find talents with a lot of potential who just need a platform it's going to sink.
Zaion already had a platform, she had her chance. If she had the magic in her she would have become a hit already but she didn't.
It means she already peaked and in Phase her numbers are just going to be even lower.

when i go to nijien thread to make an innocent post, exactly how many white people am I actually communicating to? Is it maybe 1 white per 10-15 chinamen?

>>44345803
She had pretty good numbers compared to her genmates, didn't she?

>>44344799
When you work for a company, repeated fuck ups can absolutely lead to them firing you or suggest you leave yourself. If her stuff indeed got nuked constantly then she was clearly doing her job wrong and they have no obligation to keep a liability. It's not a charity.
But you wouldn't know that, because you never had a job.

>>44346067
0

I'm beginning to think that nijifags actually deserve all the shit they get

>>44346164
It wasn't nuked constantly, can you stop this retarded meme if you never followed her sis.

>>44345803
Assuming you are telling the truth, you are overrating the power of NIJEN to bring an audience to a female chuuba in a mixed gen in a post Ethyria/Luxiem environment.

what's with holofags obsession of zaion?

>>44346223
And why would I follow someone who is bad at her job? Lmao, anon

>>44346206
Yes.

>>44328823
It was her calling out management for not letting her play Harry Potter despite getting the perms got it that was the final straw.
They didn't care about the jokes, they cared about their own ego.

Mfw Nijifags can't protect and ruin the ONE thing that actually getting good for them, again

>>44333399
Just be asian bro

>>44329240
I’ll watch her zatsudans if she leaks incriminating info against NijiEN

>>44346206
yeah, it's sad because there's actually a lot of good stuff coming from some of the girls there but once the actual Nijifags came in with Luxiem there was no going back to comfy times

>>44346639
I thought Zaion was Asian?

>>44346067
the only whites left are pomu fans, it's almost all catalogfags and asian women trying to be edgy and failing

>>44345057
Nijifans hate every other niji besides their oshi.
It's why they need 20 splits for 31 talents, but still have some of the lowest quality threads on this board.

>>44346765
brazilians aren't white

>>44346729
That's how she got in, sadly asians hate other asians so you either become part of the clique or get killed. Especially when you are able to differentiate yourself from others, like Yugo did with his amazing singing voice.
Yugo did more idol stuff in the month he's been terminated than nijiEN and their "concert" LMAO

>>44346729
Japanese descent raised in America.

>>44346410
Essentially they can make her out to be a Martyr because they knew nothing about her.
>>44346223
Her content was nuked consistently enough to where it became a meme as to whether or not the vod would survive. It was an average of about one stream a week that would be taken down even if only temporarily.

>>44346765
>>44346835

>>44346924
I fucking love how they have Ike, who was the first one to even bring interest to the branch and got 20k CCV on his first karaoke when Luxiem wasn't nearly as popular, and he REFUSES TO SING
Reimu was an utaite but fucking Nina who can barely sing has done more karaoke streams than her

How ironic that every small corpo fag including holofags wants to get this troublemaker genshin vtuber just to own niji, good luck

like chink pottery

>>44346815
Holos act pretty much the same way though.

>>44332744
I’m not hugely likely to watch her because I’ve just been watching less vtubers in general. But I assure you, seeing “Genshin Impact” in the stream title has never stopped me before, since I don’t give a shit about gaming streams and prefer the ones that are just glorified zatsudans.
I *may* poke around in Sayu’s VODs to try and get her streams to show up on my recommendeds when she reincarnates, though.

>>44347213
Yeah, there's something wrong with NijiEN.

PLEASE SAYU STREAM ON YOUTUBE
I FUCKING HATE TWITCH

>>44344127
Some of them were for bullshit reasons anyway.
>SHE MENTIONED 4CHAN IN A NON-SEETHING MANNER?! NUKE THE VOD!

>>44347496
Unlikely to happen, but we can only hope.

>>44329240
The nice thing about her being in NijiEN was that it drove her to get out of her comfort zone and do a wider variety of streams.
She is a great streamer but I do tire of the Geshin spam.

>>44326855
>Stars wheeled overhead, and every day was as long as the life age of the earth, but it was not the end.

>>44346815
njis have like 6 threads. Maybe you're confusing them with holo

>>44347729
Yeah I liked the fact that she had to diversify
If she streams only genshin I likely won't watch so I hope she branches out a little more

>>44335879
not really Pippa is a yab bomb waiting to happen

>>44325507
Already has a new design teaser?
Lmao this bitch really planned to leave since the beginning

>>44347219
thats the part that baffles me
charisma or not, this girl is literally a genshin one trick pony
over 1500hours of genshin streamed on twitch

>>44350183
>Lmao this bitch really planned to leave since the beginning
Not until she was driven to it.
I wonder if Kyo stabbing her in the back by supporting the harassment she was getting and the company not doing anything about it was what made up her mind.

>>44350183
Doubtful, her ambitions were pretty big. Getting featured in gacha games and all. Very unlikely to happen as indie.

>>44329835
>something else.

>>44350731
I hope he gets punished, still. What a dickhead.

>>44325507
>>44268594 this poor delusional bastard.

>>44344455
Their numbers are only bigger for some tournaments though. Outfit reveals? 7k from chichiro. 3d debuts? 30k from that red girl. Debuts? The last group got 60-70k range. They got nothing on hololive who is also shadowbanned on youtube.

>>44350880
Yeah but it wouldn't have happened anyway unless she exploded in popularity to a bigger degree than Vox

https://twitter.com/honon_nonon/status/1632179179147100163

>>44345203
Retard. Aloe got harrassed by nijiniggers and quit on her own as a result of it.

>>44334685
Female fans are more obsessed than male fans. Axia quit because of this obsession, and Lauren was saved by her obsession.

>>44344455
>Nijifag in charge of numbers

>>44344024
https://streamable.com/g4hawk
hi kyo! shannon has something to say to you!

>>44350731
Don't even kid yourself, she clearly wants out
she was a 500ccv indie without any restraint
turned to be just a 1200ccv corpo that couldn't deal with corpo autism
in terms of "creative freedom" and money, she was better off as indie
if she gets lucky she might even steal some 100 fans

>>44334342
They needed a scrinium barbarorum so very badly.
And now we all know it.
>CAPTCHA: WAP2T4

>>44351478
>Don't even kid yourself, she clearly wants out
Reading comprehension?
>Kyo stabbing her in the back by supporting the harassment she was getting and the company not doing anything
>wtf why would she not want to keep working in that environment?!

>>44351447
They really couldn't have hired a worse pos

>>44351447
kek

>>44350958
That "red girl" is just one 3D debut. There's plenty 3D debuts with much higher numbers than that from last year alone.

>>44351693
don't kid yourself thinking THAT was a deal breaker
because as far we know, the seething about that is VT exclusive drama

i really wonder if anons are retarded or just act like one because they hate nijisanji
in any job if you keep fucking up and not obeying the rules in teh company after getting warned many times to change, you'll get problems and if it gets bad, fired. If anyone has a brain, this is clearly the situation here.

Why are you 2020fags like this

>>44352040
>VT
You should lurk for at least two years before posting.

>>44352117
Tell me exactly what she did then

>>44352268
She used mods on FF14 and played emulated games and supported rape.

>>44352117
They should have fired her right away then. This imposed radio silence while she's suspended feels wrong. At least she's somewhat active on her PL now.

>>44352268
what is done in public is already known, theres a reason she had over 10 vods privated in less than a month
aside from that, rules here are about internal rules, ones you have in your contract and ones that are internal company rules, which is what she has been breaking. no company would try to do anything like this 2 months after debut if nothing happened.

>>44352300
The FF14 mods were a lie and didn't happen. She is a Fire Emblem fan, I could tell she played emulated games from the moment she said her favorites were the Tellius Games lol. Japan needs to get over it.

>>44352448
the suspension was clearly about trying to make her get better. what probably happened is that she didnt want to give up on things she did as indie and go in rules in a corpo, so either she chose to graduate or they terminated her.

>>44330487
kill yourself, phasenigger, pretty please.

>>44352117
Then fire her instead of keeping her in a limbo

>>44352565
Shut up holobrony. You're lying. You never even watched her and can't even prove it because the vods are private now.
She's a pedophile too and an antisemite too.

>>44352686
pfft

>>44352731
Fuck the shut up.
Zaion is fired, you lost.

>>44352529
That just gives me the impression they wouldn't let her off the hook because she is the new girl. I don't have any reason to trust NijiEN.

now expect Zaion to trend again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnGFQRLfa3k

>>44352670
If anything, the company surely want her to change after this because she is only 2 months into her existence.
Just like Lauren or Yumeoi didn't get fired instantly.
It will only be her choice if she chose to graduate.

Man, she really did a graduation speedrun kek

>>44350900
Literal pickme choices kek

>>44350932
Kyo is part of Elira's clique by association with Enna and Millie, nothing will happen to him.

>>44350932
>>44353365
You only hate Kyo because you're racists and he called you out on your racism like he called out Zaion on her antisemitism and rapism.

>>44353441
You should join the 41%

>>44353549
Oh, so you're transphobics too?
I guess the 3 day bans are over now after pickme's graduation announcement. Can you not wait to get another that badly?
Every Vtuber you like is dying, you lost.

>>44353018
>Nipple man becomes national news and returns
>Blue Babyboy gets fed up with fujos and graduate
>Gwelu do the pekora anti song and returns
>Yugo do whatever the fuck we will never knows and is terminated
>Zaion refuses to comply and most likely wants to graduate because they dared to suspend her

Anyone who thinks the suspension was because of some lame jokes and not because she was putting Niji at risk of losing perms (especially Square Enix perms) is genuinely retarded.

>>44352117
>If anyone has a brain, this is clearly the situation here.
The problem is that this is all within the context of Zaion being part of NijiEN. The talents have done tons of dumb shit over its existence like Enna and her constant racial jokes, Kyo pretending to be a black man and tone police Enna, Hex and his batshit insane fanbase, Sonny and the bizarrely funny history of his past life, half of the livers taking shadow selfies or what they wear which pretty much making the concept of being a vtuber pointless, Reimu nearly getting killed for ruining Vox's ASMR, Petra accidently leaking NijiEN's rant room and Fulgur nearly leaving early since it showed that Hololive lived rent free in their heads, Luca pretty much being the NTR guy and having all the female talents pretty much throw themselves under the bus to downplay him breaking the Minecraft server, Enna and Millie pretty much admitting they knew Elira in the past and nearly doxxing their location, the existence of the Secret GC stream in general, and so much more examples of unprofessionalfuck up moments.
The idea that Zaion was somehow too much or took things too far in that branch is just silly. If anything, she blends in perfectly and absolutely represents the embarrassing state that is NijiEN.

>>44353441
Anon, Kyo is genuinely the whitest man in existence. He pretty much larps as a black man with the brown gloves he wears for his handcam streams.
If he were really black then he would have a moral ground to stand on. But doing the shit he's doing, fuck that.

>>44353633
>troon seething
roru
rumao even
Go back
>>>/trash/

>>44335879
>lmao PC girls hate niji and love holo.
That's BS. Pippa is a major Holofag. Yuri is too but nobody cares what she thinks. Rest is camp Niji.

>>44353441
Bait, but in case someone doesn't know. Kyo is the whitest mf in the entire branch.

>>44353785
I've ever seen a post go more and more schizo as it went on.
If you're trolling, you've structured that spiral into delusion very well.

>>44353904
>>44353785
You can have white skin and still be black you idiot.

>44353785
The nice thing about this post is that it's a nice summary of all of the catalogfag opinions on NijiEN. A good reference to have on hand.

>>44353441
Kyo is some white motherfucker you newfag
>>44353633
Cry more tranny

>>44353785
This is like every /here/ schizo narrative banded together, what a canonical /vt/ user

>>44354097
>>44354021
>>44353917
>They hated him because her told the truth
You insult but you don't even try to show he's wrong about even a single thing he said.

>>44353783
She got suspended for that, but she'll likely quit from not wanting to put up with all the bullshit after having been doxxed and cancelled by nijisisters like >>44353441

>>44353783
>zaion gets the boot
>nijien will be able to stream square enix games outside of FF14 starting next week
Shit you might be onto something here kek

>>44354097
>>44354021
>>44353917
Go ahead, please point where in his post he is wrong

>>44344961
>>Get vods privated constantly because you cant control your fucking mouth
she actually privated a good portion of those herself because she "doesn't want any of her streams recorded". pretty fucking deranged.

>>44354242
Did you ever thing that maybe she deserved it? No one don't like her and she doesn't like us either. If she is going to dogwhistle how much she hate her coworkers on stream then maybe we'll get her fired like a dog.

>>44354277
Can't wait to see them play the only game Square will allow them to play: Forspoken!

>>44354242
Did you ever thing that maybe she deserved it? No one don't like her and she doesn't like her coworkers either. If she is going to dogwhistle how much she hate her coworkers on stream then maybe they'll get her fired like a dog.

>>44353785
You don't know what constitute a contract violation or not, for all these things you listed you can probably find equal or worse in JP (maybe not Hex's case.) Stirring shit on fanbases and causing things that are considered yabs in this board don't matter. Zaion went against management head-on, probably more than once, and ate shit for it.

>>44354314
all of it. Do your reps, watch streams

>>44354383
>she actually privated a good portion of those herself because she "doesn't want any of her streams recorded". pretty fucking deranged.
Proof doko?

>>44354393
Kyo, did you not listen to Shannon?

>>44354234
>u-unprofessionlism!
Zaion's problem was never unprofessionalism. It's her seemingly unwilling to change.
Not to mention more than half of that rrat compilation have nothing to do with "professionalism". It's just simply hating someone's content. Like the Kyo one, Hex one or Luca one. Not to mention the "le make vtuber pointless".
But it all make sense in your head, so be it,

>>44354097
Anon, these moments pretty much haunted the generals when they happened. That's not even getting into Kyo pretty much throwing a coworker under the bus on his personal account (that people knew about before Iluna's launch).
You can respect or even great enjoy a company's talents, while still admitting the branch is an embarrassingly handled shitshow with unprofessional management that allowed things to fester to this point. Half of the talents themselves are responsible for hurting their own image and pretty much encouraging dramafag channels to cover them with how the branch can't avoid starting drama for about 2 weeks.

>>44354383
>She "doesn't want any of her streams recorded"
Black company aside, what a fucking retard she is. Why did she join a corpo in the first place if she couldn't do something as simple as keeping VODS public?

>>44354393
I unironically believe 1/4 nijisister posts are livers themselves

>>44354536
>all of it. Do your reps, watch streams
It isn't though, even your other shitposters quickly admit it is true. Maybe you should watch streams if you don't even know basic facts about the livers and their content?

>>44354424
No, for some reason Squeenix really is starting to give NijiEN perms. A few of the members talked about it and being excited to actually play some games

>>44354651
>>44354539
He made it up. She said that if it was up to her she wouldn't take down anything

>>44354539
her penultimate solo stream. she said it herself. I'm not gonna scrub the entire thing for it but you can watch it if you want, pretty sure it's still up.

>>44354536
I've been watching since the Lasusydia days

>>44354709
I remember her saying the opposite of that

>>44354595
>haunted the general so it's true and le bad
That's why I said a canonical /vt/ user.
Most of it don't really matter outside of /here/ and dramanigger's echo chamber.

>>44354709
I watched that stream and she never said anything like that

>>44354234
>>44354314
I'm not your therapist

>>44354530
>Zaion went against management head-on, probably more than once, and ate shit for it.
Speaking of going against management, it's good you bring that up. 3 members of Luxiem did when they outright suggested management were liars when they said the AR Festival event was cancelled due to COVID, on their fucking work accounts.
Sure is the mark of a well run company.

>>44354668
But it is though? Half of it doesn't even make sense and are contradictory. Maybe you should watch streams instead of scraping the catalog for drama?

>>44354530
>Zaion went against management head-on
>"""COVID""" tweets

>>44354539
The stream right after her cover.

>>44354571
>It's her seemingly unwilling to change.
Seeming what? It seems to be the exact opposite. She was already showing steady and continuous improvement and barely anything was being privated anymore. Her very beginning was a bit rocky but even then she showed great talent and potential.
It is obvious she was given no guidance, only arbitrary backlash and punishment.

>>44354811
how did you get all this from them just adding quotations on the word covid

>>44354913
>ten privated VODs with PL references or mentioning pirated stuff
>one tweet
It does fit the "multiple times" part, she wasn't suspended one week in, but after two months.

>>44355003
>barely anything was being privated anymore
Because she learned how to cut the part in question and reupload it

>>44355003
Anon her very last stream literally got privated before they announced her suspension.

>>44354767
>Most of it don't really matter outside of /here/ and dramanigger's echo chamber.
This the thing, on some level it does. The livers themselves pretty much admitted that it does bother them during the Secret GC stream. Something meant to be a "satire" of their haters pretty much turned into them flinging dirt at each other under a veil of anonimity, to where they had to pull it down and Millie had to apologize to any talents made uncomfortable because of it. Evidently it does bother them that they lurk here and some talents are better received than others, or that their blooper moments arent swept under the rug.

>>44355139
It's unclear why it did desu

>>44353785
Ok lets catalog everything you pointed
>Enna racial jokes
Already confirmed management didn't cared, she "suspended" herself for 3 days
>Kyo pretending to be a black man
ebonics assumption of viewers, he said he is white on the same stream Enna went racist
>Hex batshit fanbase
not much different from Vox fanbase, Vox only "trouble" was his manager fear of his channel taking a youtube strike for the sexual asmr's
as long the crazy fanbase buy merch they clearly welcomed
>Sonny past life "death"
As is implied, Past and tecnically not a crime, so not really a reason unless somehow a big bad PR start about him out of nowhere
>Livers posting IRL photos
this is probably the most close to contract breaking, but since "gloves" is mandatory, the loop hole is literally not showing skin
>Reimu invading Vox ASMR
First her life was never in risk, no fujo would take a plane to colombia
there's not a single contract breaking about what she done despite potentially damaging the company revenue that comes from Vox
>Petra leaking nijiEN discord
usual opsec fuck, the "worst" it happened was a propnight collab postponed as they probably had a meeting to not touch on the topic and let it die
>Fulgur almost graduating for being the main villain of the leak
It was mainly cause he thought nijiEN would avoid him
>Luca and girls
No point here? minecraft server was private owned, I would say the little drama about him DM'ing fans would be more of a case for punishment
>Enna and Millie about Elira friendship
unlike GirlDM and Joel, they are all in the company, this was more of a disrespect from the idiots towards Elira than anything, she literally wanted to play the illusion of Elira becoming a streamer with no past
also they proocced with the usual private-vod-edit-out-slip-up-return-vod
>Secret GC stream
We know this one wasn't for free, Millie got stealthy suspended and to seal the deal she tweeted on her PL account the same message as Enna on valentines.

In my opinion what Zaion and by extension Yugo did that do others never did
was lack of compliance after fucking up, both Yugo termination and Zaion suspension mentions some form repeated insubordination
which I assume was grounds for Millie suspension, since feeding the haters is against the way Nijisanji deal with drama
Nipple-man, Gwelu and NijiEN leak went the same method
>Never talk about the drama or anything around it

>>44355139
Because she mentioned affectionately mentioned 4chan and management want ballistic on her for it because of Millie's stupidity.
Others have mentioned 4chan in much more adversarial terms but Zaion does it? SHUT IT DOWN!

>>44355061
https://twitter.com/ike_eveland/status/1621098327096926209?lang=en
>Ah. Well, I guess there it is. Covid. Alright then, sure.
Anon, the insinuation is very much there, meant to cause doubt over COVID being the real reason it was cancelled. I know English may not be the first language for many NijiEN fans but keep it together.

>>44355237
does sonny's alleged PL speak japanese like he does? Why do people keep regurgitating this?

>>44355139
>She mentioned 4chan? Aiiiieee shut it down!
t. some pajeet manager

>>44355137
The only rrat mentioned in the GC stream was Hex being a creep, Luca dating others, and Kyo dating Enna.
Most of you don't really watch that thing in full but just automatically assume they mentioned every running rrat on this board.

>>44354561
>>44354653
Stop posting, no one believes you.
No one at NijiEN cares about this dumb board anyway.

Sisters, why run defense in this shitty catalog bait thread? Just let it pass.

>>44355460
>No one at NijiEN cares about this dumb board anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs
"hi 4channers she is /here/"

>>44355556
Literally this, you are being baited to bump it. Just ignore them.

>>44355242
the other day I watched a compilation video heavily associating Zaion with 4chan. These people are constantly butthurt about this place.

>>44355177
>>44355242
>>44355432
She mentioned emulation in it, which while emulation is legal it's not exactly something Japanese companies like

>>44355367
If you actually knew english then that literally doesn't suggest anything. I hate third worlders thinking they're smart for "reading between the lines" or someshit

>>44355606
>baited to bump it
It's already at autosage you idiot. Lurk More.

>>44355653
I don't remember any emulation talk after she got bonked about it in her debut 2.0 stream

>>44355857
Prove it.
You can't.

>>44355776
I just woke up, fuck off faggot.

>>44333255
This, retards have been drinking the corporate cool-aid to think that every union just restricts what people can do when a lot of them help the people in them because corporations bank of their workers having crab mentality.

>>44355367
Even if you "read the line", the announcement wrote, "scheduling delay caused by covid and other factors". They would be implying the "other factors" cause more damage than "covid" instead of calling out the whole statement as false.

>>44355443
One of my favorite quotes is "Rosemi has been tainted by sluts"

I found it funny zaion becoming yugo 2.0, you seeing all these faggot defending nijisanji and want she to graduate already, what a faggot fanbase.

>>44355980
Zaion is fired already, you lost, give up.

>>44339475
Has anyone downloaded everything, included the deleted vods?

>>44356093
NijiEN supports their good talent so Zaion isn't good talent.
There is no """"clique"""" like 4chan is always lying about but even if there was you can see why no one would want her to be in it.

>>44356093
still waiting for millie's suspension like this board suggested

>>44356277
Your baits aren't working

>>44356359
You're just jealous of Enna because she is actually a good streamer unlike zaion and a good singer unlike irys.

>>44356147
>You couldn't stop it once, so you shouldn't bother trying to stop it again.
Are you a Republican per chance? Because you argue exactly like them.

>>44356091
Say what you want about this stream, but this is clearly a satire instead of reinforcing how "butthurt" they were to some rrat like you suggest.
Also I like how this picture oversimplified everything, and I surely know this is all the knowledge you had on that stream.

>>44356352
she already got suspended newfag

>>44356352
She was gone for an entire week

>>44356952
She said she didn't get suspended and her manager didn't care about the stream

>>44356952
>>44357213
wow multiple holos got suspended, good to know

>>44356564
That's debatable, you can argue that it's trying to be a satire but it completely failed because at little points in the stream did they use it as an excuse to turn things around to make fun of the actual people who believe or make up the rumors. In fact some talents like Pomu clearly left because they were uncomfortable with how the stream panned out and how it wasn't what it was pitched as.
Instead they came up with new points that nobody in these threads even came up with on their own, like FLOPSOLEIL.

>>44357501
Bullshit. The stream was a success joke and you're just mad because you got trolled.

>>44357501
I still like the nickname LOLISEX more.

>>44357660
Millie sex

>>44357213
Wow didn't think that holoen got suspended

>>44357274
you believed her...

>>44357660
Yeah, it was such a success that it was taken down, Millie had to apologize for it, and NijiEN now pretends the whole thing didn't happen.

>>44357673
Lolisex is a great name.

>>44358214
I'm inclined to believe her considering how drunk she was

>>44357673
>LOLISEX
>The LOLISEX gets graduated

>>44357501
I won't deny it did come out with a mixed result, especially after Mysta and Millie's response.
But the thing is, they only mentioned a few running rrat on this board, and most of the rrat it mentioned was somewhat present on Twitter with burner account and containment breaker. Which back to my point; most of the rrat that anons mentioned didn't really matter outside of /here/ as not even that many containment breakers were enforcing it, nor the livers themselves would care enough to joke about it.
The only running "joke" in that stream was male-female dating, le bad generation like Ethyria and Luxiem, le bad talent like Enna or Hex or Luca or Nina, and someone flopping hard. Most of the joke clrealy coming from the preson praticipated.
Also,
>FLOPSOLEIL is new point
You clearly wasn't here after they debuted and got culled hard