/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Esta rata acaba de ver una araña venenosa.

I watched ALL of their streams

>>44327344
Therapy

>>44327344
I would have if she streamed her pov instead of being a schizo about it

>>44327344
You need therapy

I say I don't like Vei and the entire thread has a schizo fit

>>44327344
thread ruined and beyond repair ALREADY

>>44327536
It was one guy

Sexervale

>>44327536
Majority of people here don't like Vei, ignore the schizo.

>>44327600
goblussy

>>44327600
Not a plus take it to /lig/

>>44327413
I agree having her pov in some games would be better an example is dark n darker rather see a dps pov than healer but most of the games they play at least on skippy dont really need another pov since turn based

>cross-boarders trying to act like they enjoy silvervale when shes ugly as shit with those nails

captcha: 0VGAY0

>>44327651
It's less about pov and more about not knowing they're playing together

Vei…..please…..start…..I have somewhere to be in 30 minutes

>>44327600
Why is this gob so sexy

Himefags....

>>44327807
then it shouldn't matter from her 5 min intro so you only get like 20-25 mins of Vei if she went live

>>44327869
Better than nothing

>>44327680
cope

the real question is how do we convince vei to play majora's mask instead of dragon age

>>44327926
I want her to jam those nails into my eyeballs

>>44327962
Just let her play DA:O. She'll realize the error of her ways.
If she makes it work, she deserves to stream the game.

>>44328009
Always better than AI shit

if geega hugged zen her face would just be smooshed in boobs

>>44327864
It'll get funded by the end of this week, same with the others

>>44328063
Too late, all the artfags are gone
Well, I'm still here, but I like to be spiteful

>>44327864
I did my part. Did (You)?

>>44328083
>female friends can just rub their titties and hot bodies up against each other and it's always socially acceptable
It's simply not fair and I wish the default for men wasn't ugly

Outside the usual, and forgotten (Pink Love, HarukaZen, SilverVei) on screen relationships between the members, do you like (and miss) the most?
I personally always liked how Zen sees Mouse and how they interacted on screen, kinda wish she could manage to get some time before SOTD for The Forest

>>44328229
I really like the streams where Mouse and Mel were just chilling and talking about random stuff

>>44328111
I'd rather have nothing anyway.

what if zen went live right now

>>44328376
I'll cum to long hair cyborg Zen if she does

>>44328355
I'd rather have AI art

Man, mouse is really singing her praises of the Connor & Hasan IRL. Hasn't shut up about it on Twitter.

>>44328494
ngl Hasan sings way better than I expected, more than Connor

>>44328229
Bonding over how it feels to be a latina
>>44328494
Hasan is officially a "forbidden" plus

>>44328355
>>44328482
Good to know

>>44328482
Fuck you, bitch. You're everything that's wrong with the world.

>>44328494
These damn twitter freaks never stop

>>44328572
>Hasan is officially a "forbidden" plus
sotd soon...

sex

>>44328711
Mouse working overtime to filter the /pol/fags Silver attracted. I kneel.

>>44328744
queens

>>44328494
This is how she copes with not being able to speak to him please understand

>>44328744
>no new nyan kk model
sad

>>44328770
Filtering /pol/fags by publicly sucking hasans dick...

>>44328770
This has not, and will not, filter me.

>>44326513
the reason why she didn't stream it becasue she had nobody to play it with
she said it herself that she has no friend that she could play it with
im assuming brain worms told her to not ask Zen or Mel
besides Dark and Darker is a couple's game as shown by Vei
Silver needs bf to play games like that

>>44328229
>>44328317
Are other orgs like us where we reminisce over times they were seen together or do they just watch their girls interact?

>>44328770
people who watch Silver don't watch mouse and vice versa

>>44328770
I hate Hasan and /pol/

BEST GIRL LIVE

>>44328933
Holofags cry over their totally legit lesbian ships that clearly are happening, and create rrats whenever they stop interacting. At least our bitches aren't that obligated to interact for the camera, they just don't talk to each other.

>>44328981
People who watch Mouse don't watch Vei and vice versa

>>44329033
ok

Zen live

Best VShojo live

>>44328939
Who is that?

>>44329002
You have to choose. There are only two paths. You're either a glorious, wonderful, and correct Hasanhead, or a filthy fucking /pol/fag.

>>44329085
Cosplayer
https://twitter.com/Epi_ffany/status/1632069899345440769?s=20

>>44327962
>majora's mask
Why would you want anyone to suffer through that?

>>44329098
Hasan is racist

silver has a shrill voice and no amount of larping about how you're owning the libs will fix that

>>44328229
It's weird how SilverVei hasn't been a thing in forever but keeps being used in official art

>>44329145
Silver's voice melts my heart and hardens my cock
it understand you're gay anon but it's okay, this general is LGB friendly

>>44329137
based me too

heh

>>44329137
Shut up cracker

>>44329145
same, it filters me. i wish she used the real voice more

>>44329137
Against whites, so it's fine.

>>44329265
she just needs to do more drunk and depressed streams
her low energy voice is pure sex

>>44329137
silence cracker

>>44329033
Uhhhh I do

If anyone missed Ross's stream the other day where he played Gartic with Mel and Nyan and some others then the YT version of it is up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9o1TKQvVhs

>>44329291

>>44328832
I'm not sorry.

>>44329176
yeah, kinda funny how that works, I guess both of them wanted to keep it but it's just funny how Vei seems rather distant in public and they keep pushing her like she's Silver girlfriend
>>44329250

>>44329259
>>44329302
i will now tier 3 Silver becasue of you

>>44329340

>>44329145
You're right, I have take a time machine to delete all that Silverposting I did before Hogwarts Legacy

>>44329350
They want the Holo yuribait money

>>44329137
based

>>44329259
>>44329302
Eh slurs don't really work
It's more the weird anger when white people come up
https://youtu.be/qLiVgrlU2OU?t=288

So is it safe to assume that vei is flaking out today?

>>44329309
You are the exception

>>44329393
Great edit anon, I hope you continue making cute, wholesome and SFW images with this model!

>>44329620
just like any normal people outside this place

>>44329671
i'll try my best

>>44329611
It's like noon in Texas just wait

>>44329522
>willy Mac
Like I'd listen to the opinion of an autist.

>>44329721
I don't really know who the other guy is

>>44329771
He's a doublespeak autist who has no morals.

>>44329316
Forgot all about Mel thinking o**y meant Oatly https://twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1630013524154957824

>>44329830

>>44329620
Hmmmm some how I don’t think I am

>>44329819
Well they can both suck

>>44329033
???

ok but where's vei?

>>44329710
Soda just went live though

i just realized that zen is using the old version of her intro while shes been using dragonskin

ZEN NO DON'T PLAY THAT

>>44329990
Wondering so is the dragon back for good or is this just a thing just for March?

>>44329877
Hasan would only suck if he was incorrect, which he's not.

>>44330090
Just a thang
It's updated though she isn't just booting it up again

>>44330148
I'm not talking about that anymore I'm watching Zen

I want to suck on Zen's tit

>>44330090
She switches models from time to time

>>44330090
i think its going to be a recurring thing, which im all for i like dragon zens emoting alot more and desu cyberzen is cool for concept and all but i really like when the mute streamer emotes

>>44329939
Trying to avoid (you)

Wow, missed this yesterday. Glad Zen is continuing to innovate with new technologies to show off her massive tits.

>>44330256
when is she going to sit on the camera

>>44330219
I accept your concession.

>>44330277
god i wish that was me

>>44329939
this but Silver

>>44330277
I wish Zen would call me a stupid bitch

God I wish Zen imprisoned me and forced me to nourish myself using her milk

Zen please

Zen's fat ass

FUCK YOU GEEGA

What does Zen's cult totem thing do?

>zen riding you pov

>>44330739
old redeem from Cult of the Lamb that never got removed

>>44330373
Sleeping off a hangover

>>44330617
>girls can be short and still have partners
Uh nerf when?

This new camera has made Zen too powerful
I never had a chance

>>44329137
nah he just doesn't think all slurs are equally deplorable and that the n word and c word are exactly the same thing, qualitatively

No woman will ever love me, thanks for helping me remember Geega

>>44330892
if there was only a man that could cook her a good hangover breakfast.....

>>44331180
Forgive her, she doesn't know what she's doing
It's just funny banter for her

>zen japan tour GFE
NO NO NO NO NO STOP IT STOP IT AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE

SHE IS TOO POWERFUL PLEASE STOP HER NOOOOOOOOOOO

This is a whole new level of immersion for something that's completely fake lmao

>>44331387
Another way to feel what you didn’t want yourself to know
And let yourself go

ZEN IF SHE REAL

>>44331414
The bumping into everyone bit looked really good

Zen definitely has the best/hottest models of all the girls, or is very close to having so

me and Zen having a date in Japan :D

>>44331467
ZEN IS REAL

>>44331547
Yeah and me

There is so much shit on screen

I fear for my sanity, Zen stop it please

me and Zen jumping of a plane (as a pact suicide)

Falling down at very high speeds while Zen calls me a bitch

ANOTHER DRAGON HAS HIT THE SECOND TOWER

I swear every time I watch Zen her tits get bigger. This camera just blows them up even more.

Zen about to get mauled live on stream

I am a disappointment to my entire bloodline and race. It's over. I'm never recovering from this.

kson covered weather hackers and it was great

WHAT'S up Youtube as you can see I'm out in SPACE today

Zentreya
IN
S
P
A
C
E

I can see it now
>Zentreya: The Vtuber that Accidentally did GFE

>>44329176
>>44329350
If you watch them on twitter Vei always likes anything related to Silver and vice versa. Vei also keeps "Silver is a cutie" in her bio to this day.

>>44332167
>Accidentally

Why aren't you answering the question anon? You're not distracted are you?

STOP USING THAT ANGLE AAAAAAAAAAA

a warm glass of ironmouse's golden nectar

it's over veibros

>Zen Disney World tour GFE
Yep it's over for me

>>44332326

>>44332397
this new camera/tracking system is so insane

>>44332397
zen seems like the kind of person who would be wearing the mickey mouse ears the whole trip when she goes to disney

Someone on TTS said they wanted to go through walmart not Disneyland and I just got curious if that was actually a thing and it is so now I want this to happen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5HT2EiJ3fU

>>44332389
How could she do this to me on the day I test positive for the cov

Bro I love this model and I love Ironmouse!
(platonically)

>>44332492
she does seem very sweet, its true.

>>44332644
GFE shopping at Walmart, the ultimate form of GFE

>2 ads
>Gecko
>chatbox
>text at the bottom
is this a latina thing to put as much shit on screen as possible?

Ok but when are we getting POV lapdances

>>44332768
going off some of the 2views i've seen who are also latina, yes.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>44332698
Yes quite good I love Pink Ratita too

It was really nice of Zen's massive tits to let Zen do a guest appearance on this stream.

>>44332768
She's a half Mexican American that can't even speak Spanish stop forcing this latina garbage

>>44332827
so a latina then?

>>44332827
Checks out she's a latina

>>44332827
what did anon mean by this

What are you thoughts on male genitalia?

>>44332951
as a frootfan i think they should be removed

>>44332827
>She's a half Mexican American that can't even speak Spanish stop forcing this latina garbage
That's literally a latina.
Camila Cabelo, Jennifer Lopez and that Weaverly Place girl can't speak spanish for shit either and they're stll latinas

>>44332951
i'm stealing yours

>>44332884
American

>>44333008
>half Mexican
so a latina

>>44332676
RIP

>>44333075

my ancestors would be so disappointed if they knew i was jerking off to this

>>44333112
my ancestors fucked pigs they'd be into it

HOOLY

You ever just feel like

>>44333112
maybe recent ancestors. your much further back ones would be proud of everything you have.

stream imminent my ass

Why is she so horny today

>>44333463
>today

>>44333364
"vei stream imminent" anon is actually Vei, whenever that post is wrong it's because Vei flaked out

>>44332492
My sister's hot friend wore Minnie ears that said "FUCK" to Disneyland and they made her throw them in the trash at gunpoint.

>>44332827
>that can't even speak Spanish
why

>>44332951
should be in my mouth

Well I guess I'll shower and go hang out with friend then

>>44333734
Hang in there, Anon
You still got us.

Silver please get your 3D ready and do GFE stream too.....

>>44333692
Because her parents didn't teach her? Also I'm pretty sure she said she failed Spanish class or copied off someone

Mel's subathon goals. 9k and 9.5k are both really good goals. For lower tier goals I also really like 6k and even 3k sounds like a lot of fun.

I didn't expect Zen GTSE to happen this year

What do you guys like about women?

lmfao Zen attached the puck to the ceiling fan and turned it on and I don't normally get motion sickness but goddamn seeing this shit in motion.

>>44333869
seems like a waste
children from bilangual marriages can easily learn 2 languages

>>44333926
the boobs

>>44333903
Giantess experience? Because I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Since the camera is a physical object she's actually holding and she's acknowledging it as chat it's pretty much like carrying chat around in her hand. That and the ridiculous number of low level POV's happening is a fucking lot.

>>44333926
Everything, women are objectively superior to men
Everybody loves women
Nobody likes men except for menheras and other men

>>44333959
Well if you know about Zen's childhood/adolescence you should know that there wouldn't really be a time and place for both of them to sit down and teach her Spanish

>>44333926
idk never seen one

>>44333926
Their genitals

>>44334136
woman hands typed this

If the leaked Streamer Award votes are accurate it looks like Connor and Vei won but Mouse and Froot didn't in their catagories.

>>44333926
they smell nice most of the time

>>44333808
I'm not sad for being alone I'm just sad her model isn't real and I can't fuck it.

>>44334254
Why was Vei nominated again?

>>44333926
being raped by a woman is much more fun

>>44334254
>no source
i believe you

>>44334248
Man actually

>>44334254
Source?
>>44334361
Fan nomination, rather than actual review of material.

I just accidentally came all over my favorite hoodie

>>44334562
I'll leak it clean for you

>>44334254
Did it come to you in a dream

Dog POV incoming

>>44334254
You can tell this is fake because there is no way Connor won anything.

>>44334562
Painters have paint spattered clothes because their art matters more to them to material things. They can often make it into a charm point. Why can't you be the same with your own work?

>>44334644
yjk pov?

i voted for veibae in the streamer awards and all my teeth are worn down into little stumps and i've been in immeasurable pain for years

>>44332698
I love her too (sexually)

>>44334694
karma for voting a whore

>>44334668
I was going to say that. If you are going to make shit up then at least make it believable.

>>44333926
Hairy crotch

>veibae sub expired
Good thing because why use emotes of a lying bitch

>>44334248
>thinking there's women in this thread
RUMAO
>>44334644
YJK lol! Get it because she has a dog and YJK is related to getting fucked by dogs?

POV we fuck Zen

>>44334863
veibae only tells the truth

>>44334818
who
>in lore
would have a hairy crotch

>>44334644
that dog? me

>>44334181
oh no is it another Silver situation

>>44335008
haruka

>>44335008
Everyone who is some sort of nature deity or spirit or demigod. Why the fuck would a nature spirit shave?

>>44334254

I'm enjoying Zen calling us baby

>>44335008
Vei was in a coma, so probably for a little bit at least.

Just got the mouse plushie, a lot smaller and more flimsy than I expected

vei good

>>44333871
i like melody, but honestly weak. no one wants a new live 2d model we want more 3d!

>>44335008
Mouse, obviously

>>44335183
I want a Live 2D drawn by Sachinama so bad

>>44335183
Wrong thread anon

>>44335233
She's literally the only one who's canonically shaven

>>44335245

Pretty based on Mel to make her highest subgoal "Do a collab with people from my org"

Only give your fans the in company collabs they want if they pay you 50,000 dollars.

Sasuga business woman.

>>44335144
Consider how much you've grown since you ordered it though. You notice how your old shoes are ripped and comming apart when you try and force your ogre feet into them now? Or how you have hold a fork carefully between you first finger and thumb and jab at food with it more like a toothpick used to be before?

God I wish I was Zen's dog

>>44335183
Shut up 3Dnigger

>>44335298
>org
Agency.

>>44335294
How can she be canonically shaved?

>>44335298
Di you even realize what Mouse and Vei's collab fees are like now? She needs that to cover her costs for the stream.

>>44335299
I'm not that Ogre dude digging a room under an elderly couples house

>>44335336
I stand corrected

I am Zen's dog. Woof woof.

>>44335368
bubi waxes her

Could neuro-sama join vshojo?

I want to see Silver overstimulated and mindbroken so bad

>>44335439
I'm Zen's other dog. It's mating time.

>>44335494
If Gunrun steals Vedal's PC then yes

>>44335257
>>44335324
cmon look at fking Zen stream, 3d is fking great,

>>44335415
Now sit.

>>44335449
Bubi likes hugging. And pubic hair is very comfortable, so that's impossible.

>>44329176
>keeps being used in official art
The only semi-recent official art i know of SilverVei is the Fakku skateborard. Is there any other?

>>44335619
it was in her latest lore video

>>44335494
Every streaming org will have some sort of AI character before the end of the year.

>>44335575
I can enjoy both, unlike 3Dtards who always feel the need to throw a bitchy fit if someone feels like using a 2D model

>>44335144
Vtuber merch don't be dogshit quality challenge

>>44335183
What do you think the 9k goal is anon

>>44335672
Any link?

>>44335494
They could make her one of the zen:s and no one would notice

>>44335643
Their ducks are kissing in art for Mouse's new model

would be pretty funny to get mouse addicted to osrs

>>44335298
It says friends and Mel has non-VShojo friends. She could call up Giri or Lumi or something.

>>44333871
Why does she value 3D lower than 2D.

>>44335159
vei bad

>>44329098
Make us /pol/.

>>44336159
Puppeteer art AIEEEEEE

>>44336248
That anus fuckin's cool with you, it isn't with everybody.

>>44327321
Stop flexing on us english onlys please

T posing for dominance

oh gosh. zen called me a good girl

Zen called me a good boy

>>44336361
To jest głupia kurwa

>>44335008
i have a feeling Silver is smooth
she seems like the type that waxes down there

>>44336159
You have chosen Hasanhead.

The whole nothing but the truth make us /pol/.
The spirit of telling people no
lel.

Who triggered the word salad schizo?-

>>44336467
>>44336492
prove you're good girls and boys.

Now that's what I call /pol/.
>>44336773

>>44336773
I did

>>44333871
I really like everything in the last half of the tier. Mel's smart in that she put the most interesting stuff in the higher tiers.

>>44336773
I prefer steak.

geega live

>>44337133
uooooh lolibaba

>>44337133
my general

>>44328494
It was a pretty good stream though. Mouse was lurking in chat too. I suspect Mouse is a Hasan fan.

Looks like there is going to be a Sons of the Forest collab with Froot, Bao, Vienna, Juniper and Tricky. Yuzu and Bao is already live.

all these squares make a circle

>>44337570
MY MOTH WIFE IS LIVE THANKS ANON *cums and dies*

>>44336592
Most to least
Zen (Dragon) - Probably not too keen on hygiene. Lives in a cave. Likely zero interest in keeping things trim.
Nyan - Can probably will pubes in and out of existence since she chose her own form and is a shapeshifter on some level. Unlikely she would enjoy them, though if her dating Aethel is canon in lore too it would likely depend on his own interest since it's unlikely she'd care either way. Given that Aethel's from the middle ages he probably is okay with maximum bush.
Haruka - Not doing so intentionally, but definitely something there. Nature theming means not shaving too often, but also not letting things get out of hand
Vei (Succubus) - Like Nyan, can probably turn them on and off since succubi are supposed to be able to remain sexually attractive to their targets.
Mouse - Definitely interested in trying out all the little idiosyncrasies humans do, and naturally that would involve shaving. Whether that means she enjoys it and does it regularly is a different question entirely.
Kson - Wants to be a good role model. That means practicing good hygiene and regularly maintaining excess body hair. May have something there since it's unlikely anyone's going to see it anyway, but her pride demands she not let it get out of hand.
Vei (Dragon) - Clean, or a thin strip. Her outfit demands it. Simple as.
Froot - Big castle. Army of skeletal servants. Probably gets regularly waxed by them and keeps herself clean since she enjoys being fashionable and having a nice appearance.
Nazuna - Probably doesn't bother maintaining it, but also doesn't grow much to begin with. Peach fuzz.
Mel - Pretty sure we've actually seen her pussy and she's clean. Unknown if she even has the ability to grow pubes.
Zen (Cyborg) - Would interfere with the charging port. Adding pubes was never even considered.
??? Hime - Does have hair atop her head, unknown if she is capable of growing pubes. She may grow tiny tentacles there for all we know.

>>44337570
when is it starting though

>>44337758

>>44336570
Vei moja ukochana.....

>>44337758
>Nature theming means not shaving too often, but also not letting things get out of hand

>>44337839
should have been started half an hour ago

>>44337974
Vei zasługiwać na śmierć

>>44337839
Literally at this very moment

>>44337997
I'm sorry anon. Ecosystems are fragile things and certain threats must occasionally be dealt with.

>>44338055
>>44338111
oh right, they're all there already

>>44338102
*zasługuje
my EOL (english only language) friend

>>44338165
all these sexy ladies in this collab

>>44338238
every single one of them raped me

>>44337758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOQE8BdWQA
SUPER
CLEAN
CAMELTOE

>>44338176
Ale ja mówić po polska

>>44338267
You lucky motherfucker I HATE YOU

>>44338281
pitiful english onlies, can't even declinate

Tricky, Yuzu, and Bao are the only POV's available for this collab. Vienna, Juniper, and Froot are not available. So pick if you want sexy brown mummy, cringe blue whale, or moth wife to watch it through.

>>44338564
Of course I'm watching my moth wife

>>44338281
*po polsku

>>44338601
>Of course
>Making the wrong choice

>>44338564
i want the correct moth wife. not yuzu

>>44338564
for me it's the whale

>>44338634
Tricky isn't my wife though

>>44338627
Dobrze / Okay

>>44337564
>Mouse was lurking in chat too
Yeah, about that...

>>44338564
>brown
African Americans are black

>Froot pointed a gun at Vienna
This is how the /vsj+/ vs /lig/ war begins

>>44338564
>>44339028
what? is Juniper black?

>>44339104
the war already began with the MariMari incident

>>44339028
Egypt is considered Middle Eastern.

>>44339304
it's both Africa and Middle-East

>>44338749
cringe parasocial...

>>44339416
And Asian

>>44339229
Juniper is gigawhite, Tricky is who we're talking about

Why isn't Africa called Middle South

It's been so long. I missed Froot noises like this. She's so fucking into this group and screaming already.

>>44339416
Well in doing some quick searches about this

I found out that the US census considers Middle Eastern and North African people to be ethnically white

So, there's that

>>44339639
They consider only sub-Saharan Africans (i.e. the population that made up pretty much the entirety of slaves) to be African American/black
All in all I guess this just means Tricky is technically white by American standards. What the shit

it's nice to see Froot having fun
especially after backstabbing person that thought of her as friend
good to see she has no remorse

>>44339815
Yep, just as White as Pokimane

>>44339815
She is also half-white anyway, her entire (known) family is white

>>44339866
im gonna backstab ur bussy real gud mmmm

Some of the quotes in this stream would be awful out of context. From Froot saying "Watch out for the black ones!" and Yuzu saying "KILL THE NATIVES" it's all very strange to be having it on a second monitor.

Also new thread
>>44339971
>>44339971
>>44339971

>>44339923
So it doesn't even matter by modern standards, lmao

>>44339866
It was less like backstabbing and more of a bystander watching something happen and not getting involved.

>>44340029
Ever heard of the one-drop rule?
It matters to Nazis, those who want people dead

>>44339866
>silver playing only with Mira
>froot playing on a group just fine
hm

>>44339935
Can't even post a Froot image. Even subconsciously, the frootposters have distanced themselves from her.

Tricky needs to be /in/, her model is top tier goodness and she's also fucking hot
Has a history of an abusive parent also which would make her a perfect fit for Katawa VShojo

>>44339639
>Americans being absolutely retarded about race. Nothing new here

>>44337606
You love to feel it.

>>44340106
>Silver playing with her true friend
>froot playing with a bunch of clout chasing whores
hmm

>>44340117
She's got a lot of stories about racism she dealt with so yeah. I think she was also in hit by Hurricane Katrina? Not 100% on that but she had Giri cook cajun food which is Louisiana, and she told a story about a hurricane she had to deal with that left her without power for like 2 months as a kid.

>>44340165
I didn't look into it but I'm assuming it has to do with the Caucasus
Y'know, where Caucasian comes from

>>44340239
Her brother has a heavy Southern accent, so that tracks.