/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

If Hitman 3 gets chosen that faggot will go on a rampage...

I will commission Fagni x Fauna porn and upload it in the saplingcord.

>>44328641

>>44328579
Would IRyS not mesh well with Hitman gameplay?

>>44328699
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>44328696
Cant you just AI it ?

>>44328641
I like Hitman 3. Fauna's streams made me check it out and it's probably the most fun video game I played in months.

>>44328699
WAKE ME UP FROM THIS HELL.

>>44328718
See >>44328641
Especially if IRyS underperforms...

>>44328641
Nigga is the least debuff content out of the 3

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>68,467: Toya (Nijisanji)
>46,138: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,268: Marine (Hololive)
>39,353: Ame (Hololive)
>30,426: Miko (Hololive)
>27,585: Botan (Hololive)
>24,134: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,867: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,319: Kanata (Hololive)
>21,752: Korone (Hololive)
>19,831: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,438: Salome (Nijisanji)
>16,190: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,980: Salome (Nijisanji)
>15,814: Luna (Hololive)
>15,554: Nerumero (Indie)
>15,449: Hololive (Hololive)
>15,401: Ema (VSPO)
>15,012: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,289: Furen (Nijisanji)
>12,027: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,366: Watame (Hololive)
>11,171: Roboco (Hololive)
>10,928: Necoma (Kemo-Refle)
>10,266: Towa (Hololive)

>>44328765
I'd rather her play the music game than hitman

>>44328767
Who is Toya? Towa's relative?

>>44328641
>>44328747
>Wanting IRyS to change her content because of some schizo on 4chan
Why are you so fucking weak?

>>44328767
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament

>PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Gura, Mio, Nerumero, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
46x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
20x: Pekora
5x: Marine
4x: Toya
3x: Mio
2x: Kuzuha, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>>44328731
does mangini even have the minimum amount of fanart required to feed that shit?

>>44328767
>Ame didn’t even bronze
Holy grim….. I would feel bad but she choose tempus over Gura after all.

>>44328765
Eh, it's neutral at worst.

DWARF TALLY ANON BTFO STATUS?!?!
>Flare Reveals Why The New Minecraft Holoserver Was Created
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f60bd5bwwS4

WHY DO YOU ALL HATE ELFS AGAIN!?

>>44328860
Isnt he a artist of something, they usually attract more fanart.

>>44328641
who?

>>44328810
>changing content
There's 3 options.

>>44328885
She should have know that weekend slot have way fiercer competition because both Niji tourney and Hololive big events are always on weekend
Management was right for dragging Gura out of that gruesome battlefield

>>44328921
People don't like her because she is a nigga not because she is an elf
We love elves

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>3/4 DAILY TALLY
39,353: Amelia (Hololive)
8,164: Fauna (Hololive)
6,852: Vox (Nijisanji)
5,016: Luca (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Mori, Vox, Gura, Amelia

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
9p: Vox
6p: Fauna
5p: Mori, Gura, Amelia
3p: Mysta
1p: Shu, Pippa

>>44328986
She's just a tanned gyaru elf, she's not black.

>>44329022
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
42x: Hololive
19x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
8x: Mori
7x: Amelia
5x: Mumei, Baelz
4x: Ina, IRyS
3x: Mysta, Fauna, Vox, Gura
2x: Selen, Pomu, Kronii
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Kiara

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
49p: Mumei
48p: Mori, Amelia
47p: Fauna
46p: Ina
40p: Baelz
38p: IRyS
35p: Vox
27p: Mysta
18p: Kiara
17p: Kronii
16p: Luca
15p: Gura
13p: Selen
10p: Pomu
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana, Uki
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Rosemi
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Shu, Pippa

>Looking at this year Global and cripple tally
For all the shit people here throw towards HoloEN and their recline, they are actually dominating more than HoloJP in their respective market.... problem comes when fans try to compare Holo JP vs EN when they are totally different market

is there a link to all holo*27 songs so far? i think i'm missing a few.

What were the numbers for showcases 8 hours before?

Irys should just play minecraft

>>44328921
>WHY DO YOU ALL HATE ELFS AGAIN!?
We dont.She is just unlucky, in any other Gen she would have been a OK holo, but she in the same gen as Peko, Marine and Rushia thus being held to a higher standard.

>>44329202
Wait, there's an official EN Holo channel??

>>44328765
This ain't some almighty buff shit either.

>>44329242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da26TN6N7E0

>>44329202
unless each member shill this stream heavily, I cant see this getting more than 40k

>>44329251
>4k
Was this overlap hell

Shadow making bank on twitch

>>44329325
It is literally labeled...

>>44329218
Well I mean there’s perk of being in the same gen as PekoMari. Marine regularly collab with her too so she not exactly left behind

>>44329188
People just don't include Twitch for multiple reason

>>44329330
>Shadow
Who?
>twitch
Who?

GRIM

>>44329055
She a dark elf anon.

>>44329367
In the GRIM darkness of the future there is only war.

>>44329342
>worst font and shade of green when most of the pics are red and fauna's bright green ass head is overpowering
>expecting me to see that when i was only looking at the numbers

>>44328984
Stupid statement, who cares if you win gold vs getting as many numbers as you can

>>44329251
hitman 3 =/= 2, the last one was cut short for bae birthday celebrations while it was in a easy incline to 9k so it does have nice numbers

>>44329347
Flare certainly has no complaints in the SC front, she's top 20 overall and top 10 among vtubers in that metric

Shondo redebut
https://www.twitch.tv/fallenshadow

>>44329242
Last year there was a desperate effort from EN management side to separate themselves from JP. New Twitter, new YouTube channel, new labels, etc
Except they never once tried to grow the new accounts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rNb3O5n8Vc

oh no..

>>44329457
>hitman 3 =/= 2
It is literally the same maps nigga what are you saying

>>44329449
Number aside, putting 2 events on the same day is stupid. Even Niji know to space out their tournaments

>>44329202
This is about the same as mori/ame/kiara beforehand, but waiting rooms don't mean much this far away.

>>44329466
Rushia still being first after all this time is so funny, she truly was in a different class.

>>44329414
No, dark elves are dark blue, not lightly tanned.

>>44329055
Sana is the gyaru. Flare is a whitewashed dark elf.

>>44329466
Yeah, that’s why I never understand people concernfagging her. The runt of Sankisei is still more well off than half of HoloJP

>>44329510
Roguelite structure + unlockables vs linear missions, that's a massive difference

>>44329325
>2022, Jan 8th
Nigga, even if that shit WASN'T CLEARLY LABELED ON THE IMAGE, you should know the numbers were mighty fucked across the board for vtubers in early January. I really, REALLY wish it hadn't been fixed and that nonsense got to people like Valk, just for the lulz it would've caused, but it didn't, and so it was consigned to history without so much as a whimper.

>>44329500
Guess she figured there was no point waiting it out after it got out to a 51% lead, I'm looking forward to it since no Fauna today.
I hope Fauna enjoys her grooming session with Shondo though.

>2.4k
she is just chatting and reading superchats, isn't this higher than what Kiara can achieve? explain

>>44329470
What's the point of a redebut?

>>44329347
You misunderstand, in no way am i saying Flare is doing badly, but anons like to compare her with her genmates which makes it look like she isnt doing well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rNb3O5n8Vc

>>44329619
Sana wishes she was a gyaru. Actually it would fit her so much if she embraced it but she didn't, she stuck with "she-Crocodile Dundee"

>>44329674
"redebut" for western indies is when they get a new model, apparently.

>>44329697
EN gold? Is there anything going on the NijiEN side?

>>44329735
Anon...

There are only 4 vtubers from EN who have played Hitman

>>44329735
Nigga the Myth collab is tonight..

>>44329735
>EN gold?
Isn't the full Myth thing today?

>>44329735
Myth collab will get EN gold, anonchama.

>>44329730
also when they return from a break

>>44329735
kys

IRyS not playing 2 is going to be a complete detriment BECAUSE she doesn't know the maps. The viewership is kind of like Apex and the moment you lose people bail, and not knowing the maps can and will fuck you over. I don't see IRyS doing well unless she doesn't do the roguelike version.

>>44329470
>Loreshit
Every fucking time

>>44329697
I hate saplings.

>>44329735
bro

>>44329730
I think this also is going to mark her 'official' turn towards a variety streamer, ironically similar to Fauna's turn towards it.

>>44329775
>>44329783
>>44329786
>myth 3d
idk why but i honestly forgot about that

>>44329808
She's getting a Myth funnel collab as the only EN streaming...

>>44329856
>She's getting a Myth funnel collab as the only EN streaming...
That didn't help her last time.

>>44329500
>>44329697
Predictions? 8k?

>>44329768
Man original Tempus was pretty strong with their raid chains looking back. They really did fall off.

>>44329808
Hitman 3 got all the maps from the first two games as well, so she can do the campaign from the start if she wants to.

>>44329878
5k

>>44329856
Funnels that time of the night seem very weak for some reason, unless its a direct raid.

>>44329810
Lore was the worst thing HoloEN introduced and it's weird how that's the one thing every Western V-Tuber clings on to considering how much they like to shit on Hololive

>None of councilrys setting up funnels into Myth 3D
Are they all seriously retarded or do they just not care?

>>44328799
Tyappi...

>>44329878
6.5k

>>44329856
>EN
>>funnels

>>44329619
Bitch please, Sana is an aboriginal, there are no true gyarus in holo, I would want one though like kitagawa type

>>44329825
My professional opinion is that the combined disinterest in Mori, Kiara and Amelia counteracted any interest you have in Gura and Ina.

>>44329768
the first 30 minutes of that axel stream were pure gold, then it became apparent that wasn't keyfabe and hes a little slow.

>>44329951
bro nobody in CouncilRyS could set up a funnel that would do Myth much good

>>44329951
Fauna did it for Mori and it did fuckall

niji sisters...

>>44329951
a funnel of what, 4k? 5k?

>>44329470
what is this garbage voice

>>44329940
>Lore was the worst thing HoloEN introduced
Dafug you on about, JP plays with their lore all the time, thats literally what vtubing is playing a character.

>>44329676
Ehhh can’t help it when your gen contain the 2 top of HoloJP, it happened

>>44329951
>Bae: on a 5-day break
>IRyS: the time is not convenient for her longstreams
>Mumei: doesn't stream at that time
>Fauna: has a schedule
>Kronii: in Vesper's bed

>>44329940
>HoloEN introduced lore
...

>>44329951
Anyone that would be involved enough to stay through a Council to Myth collab funnel is probably already going to watch anyway

>>44330049
>holo teams beating niji
tale as old is time

>>44328931
>>44328860
Tempus have a hell of a lot of meme art which would... come out interesting through Ai.

Regular, good looking fanart is more scarce.

>>44330049
They don't call her WORLDWIDE STRONGEST IDOL for nothing.

IRyS will beat Fauna's highest Hitman 3 peak with the funnel + new game smell

OKAY, I'M FUCKING BORED. THE LORE SHOULD NOT BE THIS FUCKING LONG

>>44330282
Kill yourself, sister

>>44330105
JP has very simple lore. They don't need an entire lore video to explain it

>>44329940
Lore was always a vtuber thing, the only ones that acted hypocrite about it were vshojo members "We don't do lore because we are real people very very real don't watch these other bitches that do RP.....o-oh wait people like lore? Time to do lore lmao"

>>44330282
Go fuck yourself, you falseflagging sister.

>>44329940
>HoloEN introduced
the only one who had lore intro is Kiara

>>44330290
>15min long lore video
Jesus...

Is Fallenshadow supposed to be a western Luna?

>>44329940
Whoever managing EN must really love FGO and their style of lore dropping trailer

>>44330419
Fauna

>>44330341
make a clip about it, maybe will become popular

What are shadow's usual numbers? Is she a 2view or a 3view?

>Annoying voice
>Annoying laugh
Jesus who does this appeal to

>>44330024
I could see her setting up a funnel for Ina or Gura. But Mori?? Is there any overlap whatsoever there?

>>44330536
1200-900

>>44330434
Well yeah, he's Ina's friend.

>>44330105
>Dafug you on about, JP plays with their lore all the time
Pic related. The most LAUGHABLE thing in the whole vtuber industry was the following thing

1) Most ENVtubers were nothing but "regular streamers with animesque avatars"
2) Myth and, in a much deeper way, IRyS and Council, introduced the "pre debut backstory" concept in the western vtuber scene
3) the WHOLE vtuber scene decried that, calling Hololive "fake" for leaning on said backstore and not "keeping it real"
4) the very fucking same WHOLE vtuber scene (including all of VShojo) ended up doing redebuts with very elaborate, written and mega fucking chuuni animated lores THAT THEY WOULD NEVER EVER MENTION AGAIN ON OR OFF STREAM
>I fucking kid you not!
It's a fucking cargo cult, they something thought the reason Hololive was so successful was because of the chuuni shit and they all went with that

>>44330598
proof?

I know we don't talk about Twitch as much in here
But Fallenshadow's 2.0 surpassed her previous highest stream peak.
Old peak was: 3,803
Currently at: 3,943

>>44330619
I lost it.

Well if anything i hope Fauna is watching this "redebut" this hanging is way above council ones

>>44330656
GRIM

>>44330686
This level of stalling is cancer. Fauna only rushed through hers because she had merch to shill.

>>44330552
KFPiss

>>44330686
Look bro, yes she revealed her outfit too quickly, but nobody should take this long showing off their fucking SHOES.

>>44330552
if you put it like that then kiarafags

>>44330329
JP don't need a lore video as their lore is based in Japanese culture.
Burgers on the other hand don't have culture and as such has to be spoon-fed even the simplest thing.

>>44330619
Probably the AO-Chan=Omega rrat

>>44330656
4,224

>>44330741
The shows aren't even fucking detailed

>>44330606
Western ENVtubers are also doing idol concerts and selling custom merch. Hololive is responsible for that too?

>>44330727
>This level of stalling is cancer
I remember reading the same thing for the Ethyria outfits. Were those this bad or was it worse?

>>44330421
>Western Luna
Mate, shondo is an actual schizophrenic mess, complete with actual MEDS and all.

>>44330850
*Shoes

>>44330606
It's common even among professionals. It takes true insight to understand trends, and that is remarkably rare in the population.
That's why you get surface level takes and monkey see monkey do behaviors.

>>44330844
Man, good for Shondo. That weirdo deserves all the success.

>>44330865
If you really want to know bad you should see Moona stall tactics

>>44330741
Indie redebuts/outfit reveals aren't the same thing as corpo reveals, they don't have some merch scheduled at a time that makes them rush just because management is too tired to press a button after the outfit is fully revealed

even in vtl...nijikeks can't help but be beggars

>>44329191
>released with MV
Laplus/Shion, Peko/Miko, Gura/Bae
>not yet released, only radio teaser
Everything else. Wamy/Lui, Okayu, and Suisei are good.

>>44331019
ISRAEL

>>44330854
>Western ENVtubers are also doing idol concerts
I'll have to ask you to point out which ones are doing it because, from the top of my head, VShojo participated on a japanese one (VILLS) and NijiEN, kek, theirs got cancelled

>>44330930
Even a monkey wouldn't have done such a poor job as en management has done.
Jill should have been the one in charge of HoloEN.

>>44331019
Is Fauna gonna start a saviourfag arc?

>>44331019
>in my past life
>pl
go back and neck yourself irys

>>44331019
She hates her

>>44331019
She wasted no time lmao
100% this was her influence

>>44330606
>they something thought the reason Hololive was so successful was because of the chuuni shit and they all went with that
It is why they are successful, but not in the way they think. The Hologirls mood the lore Cover gives them to fit their character

>>44331093
retard

>>44330977
Anon? Moona had the fastest reveal of her branch. Showed the entire thing by the 30 minute mark.

>>44331093
IRyS put it in a fucking member post retard and it won by a landslide

>>44330105
>JP plays with their lore all the time, thats literally what vtubing is playing a character
No, that's EN vtubing. The one one who's still rolling with their character in JP is Luna and that's because she has chronic baby fetish. Everyone else dropped their character years ago or they only use it for comedic purpose like the recent MioMarine.

>>44331122
Definitely no chance she put it in that member's post from watching Fauna play, no siree.

>>44330606
Sana taught me one thing and that the fact the idol journey really does not work in en. The polishing of a rough gemstone into the diamond the idol journey pretty much does not exist in the western scene.

>>44331174
*no soirée

>>44331102
>The Hologirls mood the lore Cover gives them to fit their character
It's way more than that. The "scripted backstory" means fuck all, for the most part, the audience and the girls decide what they really are, playing by ear and making shit up as they go

>>44331122
All those members are Fauna's alt accounts

>>44331186
>he polishing of a rough gemstone into the diamond the idol journey pretty much does not exist in the western scene.
and the rest of HoloEN doesn't count because.....?

>>44331174
Retard.

The second stream in a row where Enna is raided 3 times

>>44331250
Cry about it, FaunRyS is real

1.1m viewers for Minecraft in twitch lol. Esports lost to a block game

>>44331019
Hitman 3 has multiplayer, right?

>>44331102
It helps with creating fanart, at the very least

>>44331340
No

>>44331269
Gotta prop up one of the only 3 nijiEN females that matters as long as they can.

>>44331186
>sana
>gemstone
kek

>It's FOUR in the morning in Japan and Korone still keeps over the 20k line
How does she even do that?

>>44331490
It's the weekend

>>44331269
I love railing Enna

>>44331490
It's a global game

Why is this called a redebut? Isn't this just a new outfit?

>>44331573
BUT SHE HAS THIS OBNOXIOUS LORE NOW THAT SHE'LL PROBABLY NEVER REFERENCE

>>44331490
i wouldn't throw "western audience" in the mix so carelessly for a holoJP, but korone+mario64 is a pretty powerful combo

>>44331573
indies are retarded

>>44330844
4,656
Jumped up after she revealed she can take her boots off

>>44331490
how could this be? she's supposed to be washed up...

>>44331622
>she can take her boots off
I will now watch your chuuba

Of course Suisei won the vote lmao

>>44331161
>she has chronic baby fetish
where is the baby bottle stream? or the pacifier asmr? i think i missed them

>>44331573
twitch things

>>44331490
Fun genki retro gamer Dog playing a fun game that is known for memes like parallel universes.

>>44331186
Sana's intro was actually good

>>44331490
uuuuuuuuuh the cull got fixed

>>44331622
Suddenly also dropped to 4,020. Twitch is wild.

>>44331186
Why are you using Sana as an example?

>>44331206
This. Haachama being the most blatant example.

>>44331490
HoloJP are global superstars
They have a fanbase in every timezone

>>44331490
What?! Some faggot told me she was washed up

>>44331206
Yeah but the lore gives a funny kick-off point

>>44331573
she's a retard, need to understand, they don't know that redebut is what kana did

>>44331780
I would say the most blatant example would be Ame. Her lore is "detective", she added the most memorable aspects of her current lore imprompty and on her debut
>time travelling
>drug dealing

>>44331206
Yeah, there's a big difference between having a character and backstory, and whatever the fuck Council predebut was. Because I can't remember anything about that gobbledygook past the one-word answers of Hope/Space/Nature/Time/Civ/Chaos. And I can't even remember what those were supposed to mean in the first place, or if most of them are even still relevant to their respective Holos.

>>44331822
Yes, small lore like
>cat raised by old woman
and not a fucking wall of text

>>44331930
And then there's Gura who's lore is "Shark from atlantis" and she never needs to expand or change, it's good enough

>>44330194
Now that we've had a full month after "debut buff" for the new Nijisanji JP members, here's their numbers for February.
Name - Subs :: Views :: Streams :: Median :: Hours :: Peak
Toru - 131 :: 2,320,640 :: 39 :: 3,746 :: 213:23 :: 7,779
Sophia - 116 :: 1,828,724 :: 33 :: 2,448 :: 92:02 :: 6,682
Roco - 87.6 :: 627,388 :: 31 :: 1,699 :: 72:20 :: 3,522
Nozomi - 84.8 :: 916,738 :: 23 :: 3,687 :: 66:38 :: 6,823
Akari - 64.8 :: 606,711 :: 27 :: 1,290 :: 77:42 :: 2,730
Rika - 63.1 :: 977,431 :: 36 :: 2,043 :: 123:28 :: 4,672
Meruto - 51.2 :: 543,454 :: 30 :: 1,416 :: 101:05 :: 6,829

- They're Low-Mid tier for Nijisanji, but all still 4 views and streaming a lot, with many hours
- Toru (Nose) could be called the runaway success, leading in all categories
the subs-views-median don't fully correlate for the rest
- Sophia (Zeta) being 2nd for Subs and views, Nozomi for Median and Peak stream, Rika for streams and hours
- Nozomi (chuuni) has the lowest stream rate, 23 streams and 66 hours, but her higher median says she'd be better off with shorter and rarer streams. Still streamed more than most Nijisanji members.
- Roco's (Nene) still a disappointment, don't know what her plan is because she's not playing into any of her strengths and her streams are pretty dull.
- Akari (Miko) also slowed down after get 24 hour stream, though it seems like she's always streaming when i check.
- Rika (Koyori) seems to be the most popular among streamers, landing many collabs in and outside the group. She, Toru and Akari are an Apex trio too.
- Meruto's still last in most categories, struggling with her generic pink and blue design.
Other than her being, cute yet strong (scared very easily in horror games, but can break bricks with her fists) i don't know her personality yet.

>Funnel from Myth
>Fauna retweeted her stream
If IRyS doesn't get 9-10k there's literally no helping her

UUUOOOOHH

>>44331989
Yeah council was a bit much but a common kick-off points are good for gen unity and are a bit longer than this
Honestly speaking HoloX and Tempus actually hit that point pretty well

>>44330977
What are you talking about? Moona is the fastest from her branch

>>44331622
Looks like this will be her peak.

>>44332040
>Myth
>funnels

>>44332040
>myth fanbase caring about councilrys

>>44332070
perfect

>>44331980
Still relevant for Fauna except she expanded on it to a level that may or may not make her an usurper and not the original Keeper of Nature depending on if you believe that little fuck Nemu

>>44332003
>toru
>213 hours
That explains why I always see her on vrabi

>>44332092
Tempus lore and presentation was top tier. That's the one lesson I hope they learned from those fags

>>44332003
Literally Moona, Miko, Nene, Kiara, Salami 2.0, Botan and I guess the last one is more original.

AI buff

>>44332070
Sha has a knife!

>>44328731
AI still has issues doing multiple people and if you want mutiple specific people you're going to be sitting there rerolling for a very long time

>>44332040
Why do you keep trying

>>44332003
What happened to Roco? People said that she is the VTA graduate with the most potential.

>>44332225
VTA is a scam.

>>44332003
Yeah, table looks like shit, here's an image.
Also, had forgotten about SC

>>44332003
What are Roco's strengths?

These Twitch numbers are bizarre... 4600 > 4000 > 4300 > 3800 > 4700 > 4200 in fast pace.

>>44332092
>Tempus
>>44332172
>Tempus lore and presentation was top tier.
I don't know about presentation but their backstory was very on point.
>members of a fantasy medieval guild
That's infinitely expandable and have thousands of bodies of work to borrow from be it in the east or west, including every single fucking isekai from japanese light novel, manga and anime.

Is Zion back yet?

>>44332200
She does get more than 10x the viewers of the most popular kawaii members, you'd hope there'd be some buff

I miss rust, mc is too boring and peaceful.

>>44331980
The heavy loreshit made people expect Mumei to play Civilization-type and historical-setting games. She expected that too and she wasn't allowed, so she didn't know what to do and lost confidence. The shopping cart rant was the first time she figured out a way to be Mumei without getting bonked.

>>44332306
>Akari 1156$
y-you missed a 0 surely? Fauna's sister cannot be this low

>>44332365
Twitch numbers are inflated bullshit.

shondo board

>>44332306
Ya missed a (K) in the subs box, units matter!

>>44331930
Ame expanded upon her lore, but Haachama is more relevant to the topic since she's the prime example of pretty much rejecting your role and organically making up something else entirely.

How do we save her, bros?

>>44332438
bitch deserves it for not following ema and fauna back

>>44332435
The fact she wasn't allowed to stream about fucking potatoes still cracks me up, the fact she probably still can't do it is just a cherry on top

>>44332435
Reminded me of the time when sana and kronii watched interstellar, and kronii was clueless the entire time.

I love hags so much bros

>>44332549
I actually want to see just how YAB one could make a rant about potatoes.

>>44332402
idk I think he's probably out until before playoffs. the dude is just injury prone

>>44332539
>not following ema and fauna back
wtf degenerate bitch, removing the family pity sub

>>44332549
Optimally your lore should be something you can slid yourself into in one way or another, be it because you desire to be like that or because you understand the topic involved

>>44332317
>>44332225
Her strengths are, roleplay, skits and playing around with her model and setting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOP8poio7fI
She hasn't really done any after that "Theme park manager" bit in her debut.

Her fanart plummeted too, after being the leader at debut.
Even Meruto gets stuff like this.

>>44332549
>>44332578
I've got the blood of the Irish in me. Our country is waiting for the potato yab.

>>44332435
>The heavy loreshit made people expect Mumei to play Civilization-type and historical-setting games
No it didn't
>She expected that too
Because she's dumb.

Actually all of the EN girls were dumb as fuck with this respect and Gura ALMOST sank her debut buff by playing (badly) that retarded shark game that could have typecast her as a
>UWU gamer girl that can't really play games
had she not salvaged the whole thing with the MOST AMAZING RECOVERY OF ALL OF THE VTUBER INDUSTRY with her subsequent play of Muse Dash.
>Gawr Gura is a GOD at Muse Dash!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uydZpb_F7So
I think even she herself was relieved when she aced it, saying something like "I told you I was a rhythm gamer" or something

Bae likewise, played some retarded rat game. I think the only one not to mind her initial scripted lore much was Ame, with great success.

>>44331989
>>44332092
Wall of text lore is restraining. Short lore gives you something to build on. For improv professionals the latter is what you deeply prefer.

>>44332435
Imagine if she'd been JP instead. Burgers really do ruin everything.

>>44332508
Shondo who?

>>44332517
Yep, that was in K, i just thought the column name looked too long and removed it.

>>44332438
That's what Playboard says, that she has 4.4k total $....
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCWRPqA0ehhWV4Hnp27PJCkQ

>>44332508

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81jqEgrR6yQ
Aletta Sky is collabing with Neuro-samer
1k possible?

4.5k on Twitch.

>>44332931
How does this even work?

>>44332931
isn't this the same thing as collabing with a man (vedal) who's using a girt as his puppet?

>>44328767
damn 68k for a tourney? his announcement had more than that...
is niji reclining?

>>44332931
>Basically a 1o1 male collab
Kawaii bros...

Welp, it over nijibro, it from her latest video

>>44332767
Double checked with Hololyzer and yeah it's pretty much accurate. Christ. Fuck playboard though it skimmed off another bit of money from Fauna's recent stream. Why does it keep doing this shit

>Thread completely died
What happened?
Everyone switch back to Koone?

>>44332729
Speaking of Muse Dash, I can only think what could have been had them not been a collateral casualty of the chinkout.
Gura had that AMAZING gameplay in September, the Holo girls played it a couple more times in October (I think) then the chink publisher (against the wishes of the developers) pulled the permissions, more or less right around the time (same month) that meme tiktok song with their girls
>Phao - 2 Phut Hon (KAIZ Remix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoZy2E17-50

The virality of Gura playing plus the meme song had a game that was almost one year old to blow up in "mindshare" but I can't stop but to think that that move SANK them in the west, first with the review bombing and them by not getting the positive feedback of exposure they would get by have the biggest vtuber and streamer phenomenon of the late 2020 to play it on stream.

It was their loss, for Holos, they just held tight with block game until they got permissions in writing from any willing partner (while keeping chinks at arms length from that point on)

>>44333239
Everyone is getting rest for the ensuing war when IRyS beats Fauna's Hitman numbers later.

>>44332306
Half of them already made more SC in a month than Meloco in almost 3 months

>>44333122
so when do you think they'll announce the termination, on Wednesday?

>>44332729
I forgot how good she was at this
Only 28 greats full combo

>>44333122
Just need to wait for her 1 month suspension to end for her to "graduate".

>>44328767
Salome 19,438 is a Z
>16,731
Still on the same ranking at least

/hag/ vs /doog/

>>44332729
I mean sometimes it worked. I still find Ina's Call of Cthulu playthrough memorable, and Ame's Superliminal

>>44333053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GSrbYAxhXo

>>44333367
But...

>>44333334
Seems like they're delaying it after seeing how bad the brand's image got lat month.

Or they might just be dumb enough to do it on Monday 9AM.

>>44333122
I wonder if the reason they tried to shut down the drama channels were her termination

>>44333334
>termination
You mean graduation, right?

Holy numbers. Holobox who? Nijibox who? Where the fuck are these viewers coming from?

>>44333069
More of a character.ai collab if anything

>>44333484
I think pikamee graduation set them back.

>>44333473
One for the road.

>>44333532
The spanish speaking streaming community is remarkably strong at event based streaming for some reason.

>>44333239
Been with Mr Kore the whole time

>>44333532
>Where the fuck are these viewers coming from?
Latin America. Giant market, useless for direct sales of products, only good enough to sell as a passive audience to consume ads

>>44333273
Wait, that was Muse Dash song?

>>44333532
Holo need a squid game version, peko study this pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zny0WcQuwqg
Where's the clip views numbers?

It feels like people started clipping Watame more again since she's been playing MC and i want to check if the numbers back that up.

/doog/ 2 - 0 /hag/

>>44333688
Fucking based

>>44333532
>Spanish streams i actually recognize
>MC EN streamers from the Dream circles
These are record breaking streamers, if anything, the numbers are kinda low.
Would have been over 3 Mil combined back in 2021.

>>44333566
Need more r-18

>>44333638
>that was Muse Dash song?
Nope, but two of girls were from Muse Dash.
https://thenerdstash.com/muse-dash-marija-aka-the-girl-in-black/
Here a funny thing
>Additionally, one Hololive member named Fubuki collaborated with PeroPeroGames, featuring her song “Say! Funfare” in one of the in-game music packs.

Things could have gone MUCH differently for that game had them not been a casualty in the chinkout.
Are they even relevant today? Muse Dash, that's a name I don't remember hearing except for when this or that NIjiEN chick plays and it trolls come out of the woods to brag about being able

I hate ShitRyS

>>44329940
Lore is awesome if you're willing to maintain at kayfabe at least 60% of the time, and if you use your lore to make content that your audience can enjoy.
Examples -
> Pekoland amusement part minecraft, building + reaction streams
> Shallys made with custom elf language made by Aki
> Mio orisong "Howling" uses her wolf theme, same with Botan's orisong "Lioness' Pride"
> AyaFubuMi linked their simple lore together to create a somewhat cohesive storyline for the manga
> Gura Reflect showcasing her "dark side" and past, and what she thinks of it (custom)
> Ame ChikuTaku song theming based on her time traveler lore (custom)
You can also see a pattern here, where simpler lore like Amelia's and Gura's can be expanded on their own to create lore that the chuuba themselves like.
Gigantic conceptual shit like "death's apprentice" or "embodiment of chaos" or "guardian of civilization" don't leave you much leeway in creating your own lore with the help of your audience.

The holo with the lore and background most tailored for videogames is ironically... Kronii who even dislikes time trials on games. There are way too many good games that are about time travel, time stop, rewind, slow down, etc.

Instead she plays some of the most kusoge things she often finds, I remember how on debut week she played the 12 minutes kusoge, even the ending and the twist reveal was kind of awkward even for Kronii. It even tricked Pekora into thinking that it was a buff game given Kronii's high numbers (but that was just debut week hype).

>>44329473
It was all about pushing tempus anyway and this hacks had no idea what to do

>>44333910
> Kronii who even dislikes time trials on games. There are way too many good games that are about time travel, time stop, rewind, slow down, etc.
Including a very basic one, which Botan plays all the time
> which I forgot the name
but it is that one where you shoot some glass blokes

>>44333387
Ame superliminial was good but it also barely had to do with her character. Compared to Gura playing maneater for example

>>44329473
Different main channels made sense desu, ID has too
Except that ID one is actually used and grown, the same goes to both homo ones too
The holoEN one is the odd duck out

>>44334090
She did play Super Hot

>>44333900
>guardian of civilization
Especially not when the chuuba is too stupid to grasp the concept

/doog/ 4 - 0 /hag/

>>44333806
I'm pretty sure musedash recently had an arknights collab, so they're still kicking.

my cute wife

>

>>44329473
It was less about sepratating from JP and more about shilling holostars EN, a decision which backfired spectacularly and will keep haunting them for the rest of holoEN existance, especially because they can't fully back down from that retarded decision.

>>44334130
jeezas

>>44334204
/doog/ just scored again

>>44334130
5-0 now...

>>44334185
so, who's the friend?

>>44334130
The superior hag.

>>44333910
Pretty much everyone in JP played 12 minutes iirc, it was a very promising premise for a game.

>>44333900
Their actual character lore is pretty simple, most of the stuff is just inconsequential fluff that has no bearing on them as a character

>hagvshag
That's numbers for you

>>44331082
Ironmouse had a whole idol concert not too long ago.... somehow (also kson)

>>44334185
which one is lemon?

>>44334178
>arknights collab
What could have been...

>>44333900
Mori used to add all sorts of shit based on her lore

>>44334346
>Ironmouse had a whole idol concert not too long ago.... somehow
That was VILLS, and it was not hers.
>also kson
That's not out of character for her considering she is not EN and she did on Hololive as well

Hers was a parody and a mockery tho

>>44334534
too late anon, or is that a new account who was posting dox in bae's art tag recently?

>>44334622
There were a few of them posting dox at the same time.

oh hey hag finally scored

>>44333514
It will be graduation
But no graduation stream

>>44334725
Saturday night in your local dive...

>>44333900
I disagree on Mori (death's apprentice just kicking it is pretty free form) but I agree with you overall point. Councils lore is both hugely vague but also surprisingly narrow leading to it being really difficult for the girls to maneuver around in.

>>44334725
GIWTWM

5-1 lmao

>>44333900
Mori being death is a super easy concept and has allowed her to milk it for so many visuals its insane. Bad example.

>>44328767
7-14 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>44334928

>>44334930
speaking of whom she's gonna harvest Shion's soul later

>>44333334
they'll probably Ara Chae her

>>44334370
>arknights
if there's one thing that could keep sanner being in holo this was it desu

>>44334964
Long time no see, I thought you were dead.

>>44334185
I'm ok with shit like this when it's not blatant leeching. Always rep your OGs

>>44334358
you can figure it out based on which one looks special anon

>>44333900
I'm kinda amazed that Kiara managed to make something out of her design and backstory

>>44332403
>I don't know about presentation
The 8 bit art with the stats and equipment was great. They can use that for costume and treat it as a class change

man Korone can hold 20k throughout a whole taikyuu still whenever she wants huh

>>44334971
>Scored 5 goals from 4 shots on target?
>Scored 1 from 7
Bro...

>>44334534
They got forced to take down Sana's doxx but none of the others so I doubt anything will actually change

>>44334358
The only doll that's animated
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1755581857?t=1h41m8s

>>44334971
In the end, hags won. That's what really matter.
Does anyone have a link to the /hag/ hyp?

>>44333900
marine doesn't use her lore at all, but she milks the FUCK out of the visuals and theming. All you need is a vibe and a theme and you have to be talented enough to leverage that. No-one actually does lore for real, council got handed sick vibes and are just too dull to do anything with it

>>44335178
>I wouldn't be a vtuber if not for her!
>This is the same woman who threw that bitch under a bus because she got into Holo and was kicking up a fucking fuss talking about how she wanted to kill people up until she got tossed a bone behind the scenes
Ogey

>>44329893
That was just a debut buff combined with novelty

>Hololive Gamers
>sucks at games

>>44335370
Dare I say BASED?

Twitchtracker has Fallenshadows redebut peak at 4656 not bad for an indie whos unironically plays a yandere child amidst twitchsphere

>>44335370
She was having a menhera moment

>>44335081
The character archetype she most naturally fits is "gossiping waitress." Orange woman isn't far from that.
The design might even be based on Flo. She owned a restaurant for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzldcVXaZg

>>44330421
Rushia was her oshi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zzUb8G4YUs

>>44335414
>Hololive 3rd gen
>is not the 3rd gen

>>44335472
Proving that there is market for sexist streamers.

Fubuki's new orisong being made by the same group that made Say Fanfare led me to think it would turn out pretty good.
It didn't.

>>44334592
Which is why I made the point about kayfabe.
Mori streams almost never touch the lore, and "death sensei" + other lore mentions come about once a month if you're lucky. She used to do lore-heavy music when she started out, but I suppose she found it too tiring to keep the kayfabe up 24x7, and her more recent music rarely has anything to do with her lore (in addition to being repetitive concept-wise).

And, well... when you link your rm shit to your chuuba work so heavily that Youtube stops distinguishing between the two in recommending videos to the audience... kayfabe just goes out the fucking window.

>>44335648
say fanfare is hot trash too to be fair, the lyrics are cringe for a start. How dumb were they to think singing overtly about how you like streaming and you have a nice chill time with no artistry was a good idea. Embarrassing, amateur shit.

>>44335370
Going menhera over each other is the sign of a true friendship

>>44335325
It's true to form, because her lore is that she's a wannabe pirate cosplayer who doesn't even have enough money for a ship, much less a crew.
All the visuals can be said to be her dreaming about doing all of that stuff one day.

>>44335414
>holoforce
>works in mysterious ways

can any other gen even compete

>>44335805
ping pong ching chong to you too

porridge in koro chat

>>44334829
>Councils lore
The majority of the lore is just a setting that can be pretty much ignored when thinking about the characters themselves, it's just there to flesh out the non existent story
for example Faunas lore is basically "she came to save nature with her healing whispers and is not a deer"
Baes is probably the only one that you could consider restrictive, but then again she is free to ignore it like she does most of the time (i guess that is chaotic in its own way)

>>44335844
? you replied to the wrong person

>>44335914
Nice try chink boy, next time be more subtle

>>44335602
>pekora
Kanata defeats a rape victim by sexually assaulting her to bring her ptsd to the surface.

So here a question what are all your thoughts about all the currently revealed Holo EN 3D Stages/Rooms

>>44335994
?? the fuck are you talking about

>>44335602
kek

Fulfilling my promise for timestamps
>>44323684
>>44327016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5IsaISYCMo
25:14 -- Joking about Colonization
>N: "Stop colonizing everything Reimu"
>R: "It's my turn after being colonized for so many years"
>E: "omg, you're right"
>N: "Conquistador!"
>R: "don't say that, that word triggers me"
38:18 -- "Cheesus Crust, I'm never gonna make fun of you again" >everyone laughs<
38:52 -- "I am gonna become god, because I'm so angry at god"
39:00 -- Conversation about "buying the body of Christ", 39:40 -- "It's really really cheap too"
41:30 -- Nina drinks a bottle of wine per day
47:26 -- Enna's favorite ice cream is vanilla, odd but kind of based
55:08 -- Mocking Capitalism
>N: "You hoarding capitalist pig"
>R: "I love capitalism....God bless Amurrica"
>E: "It's ok guys, it's just my channel"
55:47 -- Donald Trump the "evil billionaire"
>N: "It's time to take down Reimu Endou, the evil billionaire"
>R: "I'm gonna make my own tower. I'll call it Endou tower. I'm gonna run for president next year"
>*Nina and Enna laugh hard*
56:51 -- Nina making a mockery of Jesus "I need the body of Jesus Christ" referring to the bread.
1:09:04 -- Anti-capitalism sentiment
>R: "I love capitalism!"
>E: "No you don't, you're a victim"
>Reimu is currenty winning the game, it's clear "victim of capitalism" is not referring to the game, but rather a common socialist talking point in the hispanic world that US capitalism is causing poverty in Latin America.
1:10:00 -- Still talking about capitalism, Nina wants "power to the people". Communist slogan.
1:12:53 -- Nina's "revolution" to "take down capitalism"
1:13:18 -- "Eat the rich"
1:14:13 -- "Nina you're supposed to eat the rich"
1:15:22 -- "Eat the rich, eat the colonizer, take our land back!" They are equating "rich" to "colonizer" sounding like a socialist stump speech.
1:16:15 -- "The revolution has begun"
1:46:00 -- Reimu calls herself "American". Many anti-USA people in Latin America will call themselves "the true Americans" and mock the US calling them "United Statesians".
2:03:58 -- "Cheesus Crust is upset with me"
3:49:06 -- Enna said she's been bonked by management and is forced to "be nice" now. But after a few months she will "become adventurous" again. Basically she will go back to her old cunt ways.

>>44336012
They were pretty good.

/#/ is having a meltdown

>>44336104
This is so insufferable

>>44336104
Christ, Ethyria was a fucking mistake
That said why do you hatewatch all of Enna's streams? Why must you suffer?

>>44336180
about what?

>>44336180

>>44336104
I want to die and take vtubing down with me after reading that

>>44336104
does this kind of behaviour get numbers tho?

>>44336104
go back to your thread ennaschizo >>44330435

Just railed Fauna

>>44335887
>for example Faunas lore is basically "she came to save nature with her healing whispers and is not a deer"
I like how she changed it into "a witch that usurped concept of nature"

>>44336180
i hate summer, cannot watch vtubers in peace

>>44336104
sounds like regular Nijisanji tier "humor"
Bonus -
https://youtu.be/T5IsaISYCMo?t=3418
> Don't they dip the body of Jesus Christ in like wine?
> "I think we've said enough on my channel okay? I've got like 70 monetized streams" - Enna

>>44336104
>bringing politics into this hobby
Jesus fucking christ. You'd think they're god damn fucking pink wumaos. Maybe they are.

>>44336180
Oh no... what drama are these idiots having now? I swear everyone in that thread never watched a stream in their lives

>>44335172
Isn't that the blueprint for other people to follow suit?

>>44336313
kek
actually i wouldn't put it past enna to be posting these herself to drum up engagement because the threads kinda stopped talking about enna otherwise

>>44336394
> "I think we've said enough on my channel okay? I've got like 70 monetized streams" - Enna
Ehhh that's a good one kek

>>44331186
Sana gave up on hololive after a month she didn't care about idol journey.

>>44331019
Having Fauna in vc giggling and guiding IRyS around would be super cute.

>>44336461
Didn't Enna said she came her after the Kyo shit to see what >we were saying? And funnily enough she followed IRyS on twitter afterwards.

>>44336412
>_ Rules _
> Please be mindful and respectful.
> Please do not spam and use harmful words.
> If you see spamming please do not engage >and just report/block !!
> Please do not bring up other Livers in chat >unless I bring them up first
> Additionally, please do not bring me up in >other Liver’s chats as well
> Please stay on topic during the stream
> Please do not backseat or spoil unless >permitted !!
> Let's create the best memories together!
is not in her rules so i don't see any problem, you can talk about politics if she brings it because is on topic