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WE DID IT
U-uooh?
Gura singing debuff is real
>>44214998
* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 03/01/2023 *(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)>352,402 Sakura Miko (COVER) (36.7%)>278,894 Oozora Subaru (COVER) (146.1%)>272,876 NeruMero (Indie) (122.1%)>266,157 NeruMero (Indie) (186.7%)>254,937 Aizawa Ema (Brave Group) (31.1%)>245,272 Amane Kanata (COVER) (88.0%)>218,472 Hakui Koyori (COVER) (22.3%)>197,203 Fuwa Minato (ANYCOLOR) (80.6%)>194,161 Shibuya HAL (Neo-Porte) (544.5%)>191,920 Tsunomaki Watame (COVER) (19.0%)>177,396 Kobo Kanaeru (COVER) (180.5%)>168,488 Yashiro Kizuku (ANYCOLOR) (64.9%)>157,391 Mori Calliope (COVER) (175.3%)>153,250 Genshin Mosu (Indie) (47.1%)
>>44214998CHUUU
For someone claimed to be "reclining", this thread and the whole board moves too fast whenever Gura streams
>>44215009she inclined during her last song though
https://twitter.com/nasdaily/status/1630963896222711809
>>44214931Recent clip numbers>>44156464>>44156495>>44156526>>44156552>>44156591
>1500/#/ is healing
It will be officially GRIM if the Myth collab doesn't reach at least 80k
It's over...
>>44215051it's fun to shit on chumkek
>>44214931Neru-chan UOOOOHHGHGHH
>>44215051Hardcore audience is still there, and being on this board already puts you above being a casual for the most part. It's the tourist/casual audience that is slowly fading
>>44215075The Myth collab will likely hard cap at 40k
This thread will be better
gura gold, nijinogs seething impotently and a good show overall. What a good day.
kronii's 3d will save EN
>>44214931*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*>42,700: Mio (Hololive)>33,682: Pekora (Hololive)>24,629: Miko (Hololive)>24,363: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>21,241: Kanata (Hololive)>20,458: Nene (Hololive)>19,249: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>18,027: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>17,010: Towa (Hololive)>16,111: Iroha (Hololive)>13,580: Subaru (Hololive)>11,945: Hal (Neo Porte)>11,621: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,211: Hayato (Nijisanji)>10,761: Koyori (Hololive)>10,631: Lauren (Nijisanji)>10,430: Watame (Hololive)>10,141: Lize (Nijisanji)
>>44214998Jesas Christ
>>44215060sirs this is an image board so please do the needful
Here's your number predictions, didn't see a lot of them this timeSome underpredictions, lots of overpredictionsIf you got it right you were a rarity
https://youtu.be/live/UNtM4Ks-cSEMight just be me but her chest looks bigger. Now it looks much more like her 2D.
>>44214886FUCKING TRUUUUUUUEwhat time did gura stream her first 3D live? wasn't it around EST?and that net her a 90k stream?Imagine pandering to LA time to get ESLs from japan THAT WOULD BE WORKING DURING THOSE HOURS!!!! this is the shit you get for not using EST
grim bros the day is ours
tomorrow grimbros will have a feast
If the EN market is dead where did the 93k people for IRyS 2.0 come from? Western viewers simply aren't are willing to subject themselves to the same content over and over on a loop like JP are. People are literally just waiting for EN3 or literally anything new or interesting to happen. A redesign is interesting. New girls are interesting. A low effort Kanaru slide show is not interesting.
Ok, now explain to me why mentioning VOD views is a cope?
Great stream followed by coming to /#/ to read all the hilarious shitposters trying their best to insult everything in sight. What a good night, thankyou for your hard work guys
>>44215051No.1 vtuber makes people seethe.
Holy rent free!
>>44215075shitposterchama its the HoloEN channel, it'll be lucky to hit 40k.
>PekoMarine was a bigger debuffBanpirGODS, status?
>>44215075>holoen channellollmao even
>>44215075It could unironically be lower than Ina's 3D showcase
Pippa's numbers status??
More cover office talkhttps://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1631489575574200322https://note.com/cover_corp/n/n4bb99b978c1e
>>44214315/HIRyS/ isn't some accident. That is how IRyS' fanbase mostly is. They are schizo and insane in their devotion to IRyS and only IRyS.
En management rihgt now:>YOSH! YOSH! YOSH! We managed to avoid reaching 100K! Let's goooooo!
>>44215175>MARCH 2023 GOLDS1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament>PER COMPANY1x: Hololive, Indie>PER STREAMER1x: Mio, Nerumero>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY45x: Hololive13x: Nijisanji2x: Indie1x: VSPO>PER STREAMER20x: Pekora5x: Marine3x: Mio, Toya2x: Kuzuha, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro
>>44215224it's not clear how long a viewer watches for
Ame won't be able to get anyone but B-listers like Roboco, Mel and Haachama.39k
imagine if we got en3 instead of leechesthere would still be hype and new viewers for these eventsen management are malicious and sabotage everything girl related but gladly suck the boys' dick
>>44215300>blaming en management again
>>44215075It will be lucky to get 40K on that channel.
>>44215139and tourist care about shitposting Gura more than idol Gura
>>44215051No, anon, she is a reclining irrelevant shark and I'm going to prove it to you by spamming on cooldown for 6 hours every single time she streams
>>44215255kappu kappu
>Has the longest JP segment>Given the worst a timeslot for JP viewersBravo Cover
>>44215075>holoen channel>Mori debuff>Kiara debuff>Takamori debuff>Kiara debuff again45k
>>44215285Honestly based I can respect that
>>44215269/News/ anchor
>>44215285Maybe they should listen to her music then.
chumbuds on endless copehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay0o_Mfhhik
I wonder if CoverJP finally realizes how badly EN is mismanaged. Or do you think they’re going to wait 24 hours to VOD cope?
>>44215233What's the source for these SC numbers?Hololyzer is reporting different numbers for Ina and KiaraIna: ¥881,093Kiara: ¥1,688,609
post the chat overlaps
*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*>3/2 DAILY TALLY8,614: Vox (Nijisanji)7,848: Fauna (Hololive)6,998: Shu (Nijisanji)6,649: IRyS (Hololive)6,631: Mori (Hololive)5,187: Amelia (Hololive)5,074: Vox (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 20231) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream>PER COMPANY1x: Hololive, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: Mori, Vox>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)5p: Mori, Vox3p: Mysta, Fauna1p: Shu
>>44215163>gura goldDon't celebrate too early, because there's still the 3D debut later, and I have no idea what she'll get. It could be a lot.
so ladies if you all could migrate to /mans/ that be great
#s didnt get to hit 300 ipsdeclining. #s is washed up.
>>44215426chumbud act cocky but always cope in the end
>>44215224They're streamers first, if VODs are your first concern just become an old school Vtuber and make curated videos
where the fuck was my gura 80kwhere did it all go wrongbarely above ina?ffs
>>44215349So, bigger buff than pekomari?
>>44215397Even that is optomistic imo35-45kThough I'm still okay with it being on that channel because they should have been using it for SOMETHING the past 3 years besides the occasional song
>>44215075What did the ID one get? If I remember correctly it was significantly lower than the individual showcases.
I think they are reserving their performances for the myth event. That could be the reason why the singing is sparse
>>44215075>80k>in 2023
>>44215462>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY40x: Hololive19x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER8x: Mori6x: Amelia5x: Mumei, Baelz4x: Ina, IRyS3x: Mysta, Fauna, Vox2x: Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Gura1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Kiara>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)49p: Mumei48p: Mori46p: Ina44p: Fauna43p: Amelia40p: Baelz38p: IRyS31p: Vox27p: Mysta18p: Kiara17p: Kronii16p: Luca13p: Selen10p: Pomu, Gura9p: Millie, Enna, Ike8p: Finana, Uki7p: Regis5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Rosemi4p: Vesper3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Shu
>>44215435Hololyzer an hour after their stream is done
>>44215502>They're streamersNot according to Cover
Moona got 87K was because of towa. EN biggest mistake was they're not inviting towa to their showcase. stupid EN
>>44215224It doesn't fit with the narrative that she's irrelevant
>>44215051Gura's antis love her too much
here is a number for you
>>44214998genuinely the most unpleasant part of the stream
>>44215502I'm pretty sure vods are kind of the whole basis around their youtube monetization...
>>44215285She doesnt have a gen, it resulted in High subs because people think she is special at 1st but then there is no gen unity to boost her up.
Holy dead hours. Kaela? Koyori? Help.
>>44215051Yep, to shit on cumpedoThe most obnoxious fanbase after kfc
>>44214559>It's on a massive declineRetard. The market is on a decline, but it is not massive.One of the ways to measure if they are on a massive decline is if the management keeps overestimating the demand of limited edition merch. But the reverse is true.
>>44215515Let's see>JP segment for the beginning>retarded kanauru shit>while I liked the songs, literally only 3 JP ones>MATH, MATH MATH mAth MTH MHAll that mixed with the fact that it's noon on a workday in Area 11.
>>44215051>ENfags prefer to shitpost instead of watching Gawr "10 trillions subs" GuraGrim.
>>44215529Yeah only 30k with insane JP overlap
it would've been better if the math part was 5 minutes shorter
>>44215573nah, streaming regularly and 3 times a week was a requirement
>>44215421Didn't say they were large in number, that isolation from everyone else could even explain the subpar music views
>gura high numbers make schizos seethe>gura low numbers make schizos seethehow do you explain this?
February superchatsHololive>1. Sakamata Chloe - $62,924>2. Nekomata Okayu - $40,172>3. Hakui Koyori - $39,886>4. Mori Calliope - $33,965>5. Houshou Marine - $32,671>6. Yukihana Lamy - $27,823>7. Inugami Korone - $23,147>8. Kazama Iroha - $22,861>9. Hakos Baelz - $20,689>10. IRyS - $20,023>11. Takanashi Kiara - $19,387>12. Ceres Fauna - $18,214>13. Oozora Subaru - $18,052>14. Tsunomaki Watame - $16,724>15. Amane Kanata - $16,253>16. Kaela Kovalskia - $15,985>17. Shiranui Flare - $15,319>18. Shirogane Noel - $15,073>19. Usada Pekora - $14,177>20. Gawr Gura - $12,807>21. Tokoyami Towa - $12,067>22. Sakura Miko - $11,562>23. Ninomae Ina'nis - $9,810>24. Momosuzu Nene - $9,598>25. Laplus Darknesss - $9,351>26. Ouro Kronii - $9,289>27. Murasaki Shion - $7,919>28. Himemori Luna - $7,306>29. Shirakami Fubuki - $7,014>30. Natsuiro Matsuri - $6,854>31. Nanashi Mumei - $6,398>32. Minato Aqua - $6,157>33. Aki Rosenthal - $5,934>34. Shishiro Botan - $5,712>35. Yozora Mel - $5,602>36. Yuzuki Choco - $5,592>37. Takane Lui - $5,511>38. Pavolia Reine - $5,438>39. Vestia Zeta - $5,129>40. Moona Hoshinova - $4,494>41. Watson Amelia - $4,470>42. Kureiji Ollie - $3,746>43. Omaru Polka - $3,665>44. Tokino Sora - $3,263>45. AZKi - $2,859>46. Anya Melfissa - $2,640>47. Kobo Kanaeru - $2,333>48. Hoshimachi Suisei - $2,178>49. Akai Haato - $1,771>50. Airani Iofifteen - $1,736>51. Roboco - $1,469>52. Nakiri Ayame - $1,169>53. Ayunda Risu - $1,025 >54. Hololive - $300
>>44215502Vods dont matter in twitch because no one watches them and Twitch doesnt pay for shit. Also they get deleted in 3 months anyways. Completly ignoring VODs would make you a twitch nig.
>>44215747>high numbers
>>44215704nigga it won't even pass Ina without the kanauuru and math meme
>>44215075It probably won't beat Mori's showcase and it might not even beat Kiaras if they spend a lot of time on lame skits.
>>4421507525k take it or leave it
>>44215705nijinog don't pretend to be a holofan
still shitposting on adrenaline? take deep breaths and calm down.
The mental breakdowns you guys have over CCV is genuinely bizarre. Especially for a glorified premiere.
>>44215747there are 2 schizos
>>44215573>Not bound to only live streaming>It means they are not streamersI don't think it means what you think it means
>>44215435picrel is rank based on Hololyzer data
So what could threaten Gura global gold?
>>44215754Nijisanji>1. Fushimi Gaku - $40,839>2. Lauren Iroas - $37,681>3. Hex Haywire - $34,584>4. Oliver Evans - $33,739>5. Kaida Haru - $33,621>6. Ibrahim - $33,464>7. Fuwa Minato - $32,486>8. Shirayuki Tomoe - $32,141>9. Scarle Yonaguni - $28,301>10. Sophia Valentine - $21,259>11. Vox Akuma - $17,532>12. Pomu Rainpuff - $17,505>13. Ishigami Nozomi - $17,172>14. Kagami Hayato - $16,777>15. Watarai Hibari - $16,754>16. Igarashi Rika - $16,553>17. Yumeoi Kakeru - $15,538>18. Kanae - $15,400>19. Enna Alouette - $13,229>20. Alban Knox - $12,479>21. Kaburaki Roco - $11,913>22. Sonny Brisko - $11,512>23. Yuki Chihiro - $11,458>24. Doppio Dropscythe - $10,530>25. Leos Vincent - $10,483>26. Kenmochi Toya - $10,121>27. Selen Tatsuki - $10,080>28. Hyakumantenbara Salome - $10,041>29. Furen E Lustario - $9,887>30. Yorumi Rena - $9,620>31. Kuzuha - $9,331>32. Seraph Dazzlegarden - $9,331>33. Uki Violeta - $8,978>34. Hakase Fuyuki - $8,397>35. Uzuki Kou - $7,919>36. Aia Amare - $7,863>37. Inui Toko - $7,851>38. Gaon - $7,817>39. Luca Kaneshiro - $7,625>40. Koshimizu Toru - $7,146>41. Fura Kanato - $7,007>42. Mysta Rias - $6,887>43. Machita Chima - $6,442>44. Ike Eveland - $6,133>45. Kuramochi Meruto - $6,049>46. Ver Vermillion - $5,893>47. Higuchi Kaede - $5,497>48. Elira Pendora - $5,157>49. Ars Almal - $4,953>50. Fulgur Ovid - $4,873
>>44215555En just need pander the tranny and get good number,today stream tell us tranny rule En market
>>44215837Both of them are gay
I predicted 60k for Gura. Remember that JP are working at this time; unable to watch the stream Live. I wonder what the total views will be tomorrow?Gracious of Gura to take this time slot.
>>44215704Remove your last sentence and I'd agree with you. She's a HoloEN member and she should be streaming for the EN audience.
>>44215825where do you think you are
this just proves thatEST > other shitter timezonesEST is PURE American prime time.this cope that "P-PST IS US PRIME TIME" is laughable kekshe would have gotten more if she didn't stream at an hour where some EST Chads had to sleep early for work in the morning.at least with EST you can get mostly everyone in NA to watch you.
>comparing a Friday morning slot where EU sleeps and JP is at work to the other girls who all had Saturday/Sunday and thus all the JP tourists were able to tune in for thoseDefinitely not shitposting!
>>44215747nah people just want to shit on chumbud how is that hard to understand?
>>44215529lower then any of the individual streamers
>>44215856niji3DGura gonna slip
>>44215856Niji 3D debut
>>44215051/hlgg/ 86.51 (peaked at ~90)/#/ 24.45 (peaked at ~25)/ggg/ 24.43 (peaked at ~25)Plus assorted catalog baitsYeah, Gura dominates /vt/
>>44215730Yeah that and the burger Jap song are the only thing that should have changed. Gura Wouldnt remove pekomari or any of the Hololive shilling but those 2 things could have been changed.
>>44215364ummm yes otherrfucker who scheduled the live for today motherfucker?????who scheduled it for today? MANAGEMENT SCHEDULED IT FOR TODAY!!NOT GURA!MANAGEMENT SCHEDULED IT NOT GURA SO MANAGEMENT IS TO BLAME HERE PURELY AND EXCLUSIVELY
>>44215224people just scrolling through the VOD is not equal to watching and it still count as 1 view
If they were gonna do Thursday anyway, why the fuck not let Gura stream in her actual timeslot?
>>44215747Gura in general makes schizos seethe. Always has. That's why chumbuds are the way they are.
>>44215868Others>1. Chiyoura Chiyomi (Aogiri High School) - $38,685>2. Gavis Bettel (Holostars) - $34,271>3. Pipkin Pippa (Phase Connect) - $31,034>4. Kurikoma Komaru (Aogiri High School) - $28,559>5. Matsunaga Iori (Riot Music) - $28,261>6. Noir Vesper (Holostars) - $17,668>7. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $16,337>8. Oma Kirara (Noripro) - $14,499>9. Shiba Kou (Live Duo) - $13,915>10. Nagino Mashiro (independent) - $12,040>11. Neko Matsuri (independent) - $11,801>12. Josuiji Shinri (Holostars) - $11,723>13. Hizaki Gamma (Holostars) - $11,679>14. Nekozeno Shin (Noripro) - $11,363>15. Seki (Meridian Project) - $10,966>16. Yamaguro Nekuro (Aogiri High School) - $10,480>17. Inari Iroha (Noripro) - $10,107>18. Amakami Konomi (independent) - $9,948>19. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $9,030>20. Nenemaru (Sinsogumi) - $8,654>21. Shirayuki Reid (Neo Porte) - $8,460>22. Reglush Lionheart (Noripro) - $8,376>23. Ogiya Milk (Sinsogumi) - $8,228>24. Banzoin Hakka (Holostars) - $8,195>25. Shinomiya Runa (VSPO) - $8,127>26. Regis Altare (Holostars) - $8,042>27. Nito Wai (independent) - $7,745>28. Otodama Tamako (Aogiri High School) - $7,589>29. Aletta Sky (Kawaii) - $7,485>30. Cygnus (Square Live) - $7,342>31. Kuga Leo (Neo Porte) - $7,301>32. Kageyama Shien (Holostars) - $7,191>33. Komori Met (VSPO) - $7,130>34. Ichinose Uruha (VSPO) - $7,043>35. Shirayuki Mishiro (Noripro) - $6,834>36. Joyu (independent) - $6,814>37. Oshiro Mashiro (Aogiri High School) - $6,786>38. Ponpoko (independent) - $6,767>39. Natori Sana (independent) - $6,651>40. Suou Patra (774 inc.) - $6,574>41. Rin Penrose (Idol) - $6,233>42. Tabasuko (Mirolive) - $6,228>43. Shirayuri Lily (ViViD) - $6,198>44. Shibasaki Fuune (The Box) - $6,166>45. Magni Dezmond (Holostars) - $6,144>46. Maemi Tenma (Phase Connect) - $5,968>47. Tachibana Hinano (VSPO) - $5,953>48. Shitagai Nora (Sinsogumi) - $5,770>49. Nayuki Vivy (RenewLive) - $5,424>50. Popona (Sega) - $5,419
>>44215837Both of them are niSEAnigger
>>44215934>>44215932who? a big shot?
>EN TIME IS BAD FOR EN, WE NEED JP PRIME TIME, BRING THE JP VIEWERSDo /#/ really?
>>44215962That applies to everyone though
I wonder why Cover doesn't use CCV in their portfolio as a measure of success. Are they stupid?
>>44215704JP segment at the beginning is great filter for EOP tourists
covers west coast obsession has to end at some point, right?
>>44215844Huh, so probably due to exchange rate fluctuations
>>44215364KYS YOU DAMAGE WANNABE CONTROLLING TRANNY! YOU ARE T-CHAN ARENT YOU?! KYS! YAGOO WILL FIRE YOUR UGLY DISTORTED BITCHASS!! WATCH!!!
>>44215927Nah, there's plenty of genuine malicious seethe.
>>44215923>weekday copeI'm not even taking the piss on Gura individually here, the numbers here are just the final nail in the coffin that the EN scene as a whole is a rut. If she got a weekend slot maybe she'd get, what, 75k? Not as dissapointing but not something to celebrate
>>44215844Mori didnt even get members or gifted? wtf she did worse than i thought
>>44215573of course a chumbud can't read
Yeah, Gawr Gura didn't do as well as they expected.
I will be paying attention to the VOD views for Gura's 3D Showcase and laugh when they mog all the JP whores.FOR EXAMPLE.......THE 3D LIVEThe only one that beats Gura is Marine.>Gura's 3D Live1.6M views>Suisei's last 3D Live1.3M views>Pekora's 3D Live1.4M views or 1.3M views, take your pic>Miko's 3D Live1.1M views or 982k views or 950k viewsNow regarding Suisei she does have one that is at 1.8M views, but that was over a year ago so Gura's 3D Live will eventually pass it. CCV ain't shit.
>>44216066Kek, we will have HoloEN Connect, cry more
>WE NEED JP VIEWERS TO CARRY EN>Brings PekoMari>Stalls and falls
>thread speed cope nowJust stick with thursday
>>44215747not high enough for some people
>>44216028No, but she should have had a weekend so those viewers could tune in, like they did for the 3d live.Are we going to pretend we don't know Gura's viewership demographics and 30% of them are a gaggle of random asians and another 12% are japs?
>>44215364>not blaming management for their faultslook at this corpo bootlickerstate your gender!
How do we save kyedae bros?
>>44215075enchannel30k-50k
>>44216066Its closer to Japan so probably not. Its sucks tho as west coast fags are shown time and time to have the least loyalty for burgers.
>>44216028Yea, CCV especially doesn't matter when many are unable to watch it live. Total views are the better metric. Prediction on this VOD view tomorrow?
>>44215220A good chunk of the 93k from IRyS 2.0 were Japanese, which Gura had no access to because of the time and day of her 3D Live. I do agree with HoloEN desperately needing EN3 to shake things up. The audience is so desperate for new interactions and new content within the branch that they're reducing themselves to watching the homobeggar collabs.
>>44215704i like gura but this wasn't it chiefi liked her birthday live better
>>44216174>Are we going to pretend we don't know Gura's viewership demographicsyes?
>>44216142>preemptively VOD coping
>>44216054No, anon. This thread is stupid.
>>44216112Keep posting that the EN scene is dead 100 times a day in this thread for a few years, and maybe some day it'll come true
History anon here. Reminder that the sankisei gamers collab happened on a weekday during jp prime time and got more than double gura's 3d number. And that stream was just 8 girls laughing at each other.
>>44216174Weekend belongs to Miko's birthday, fuck off.
>>44215844>not a single EN with 50k cursed number
>>44215075Myth collabs and their complete lack of chemistry is a huge debuff. Would not be surprised if it poses to Kiara.
>>44216066It will end when the non west coast timezones stop fucking up even more
>>44215825God has collected us all here. If you can't handle it just don't visit.
>>44216028Sorta. Old numbers are kinda old, but didn't the November 2021 slide thingy say something like 40-45% of her audience is in Asia/JST-ish?
>>44215075>Chumbies >watching collabs>HoloEN channel
today's threads are gonna be fun
>>44216112Yeah nah the difference between having JP viewers or not would be more like 67k vs 100kThat's how important they are. They are the only ones who consistently show up for 3D live events.
Holy fuck I missed the 3D live AGAIN. The ONLY one I managed to catch live was Mori’s. There is no way other people in JST and places like Australia could catch any of these liveThere are a lot of people who don’t check schedules and just look at what’s live, if you’re not streaming during those hours then you lose the casual watchers too
>>44215573This explains a lot about HoloEN...
>>44216272Don't put words in my mouth retard. I said "in a rut", not fucking dead. There's a recline, even you can't deny that. The question is if it's gonna stabilize or continue sliding down
This is not looking good for the Connect The World project. What the fuck are they even doing with it? If it's a concert, they might as well cancel it.
I told you niggers:-these would get bad numbers cause of 3d not being new at all, they all had 3d lives on their channels. Gura had 2!-Gura's timeslot fucking sucks-Ina would massively overperform because her 3d was used the leastIt genuinely pisses me off that I've aquired the useless skill of predicting how these things go and the only faggots who I can discuss it with shout shit like COPE COPE COPE even when I do it a month ahead of time.
Imagine delaying Nene and possibly Miko's 3D for this.
>>44216258>Pekora's VOD don't come close to Gura's>Noutoddlers gaslight the entire thread into thinking VODs don't matterIt all makes sense now
>>44215874Tell that to Pippa,tranny LMAO
>>44216283keyword>jp prime time
>>44216283What is your point?
I will outlast all of you faggots.
Gura beat Ina, that's all that matters.
I’m going to laugh my ass off when they announce EN3 and it’s a full female gen but they still flop in the end. I wonder what ENbros cope would be then huh
>>44215421It's not us that doesn't listen, it's (you).
if only the EN scene could have been invigorated last fall with something like... I don't know MAYBE EN3 INSTEAD OF TWO! HOMO GENERATIONS HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>44216283Was it at noon when everybody's at work/school though?
>>44216389It's okay, good try for their first times.
>>44215224If we acknowledge VOD views we have to admit that Gura is fucking huge and that JPs all have an immense buff due to their ccv benefitting from having all of their audience in a single timezone, whereas ENs will have a lot of people only able to watch their VODs hours later.Can't have that.
>>44216386Yeah, it probably won't even sell out. And it definitely won't sell out in under 5 minutes. If any of that happens, I'll cut out my own ovaries.
>>44216233Grim, it's gonna be a while before this even gets close to 1mil.
Councilrys 3d showcase will mog every myth's except for bae's. People are just fucking tired of EN1.
>>44216390A cope is a cope even if you cope a month before this shameful stream.
The anons that said "Instead of waiting, Cover should've rented a studio in the US" were on to something.ID2 and Council 3D showcases should be done ASAP.
>>44216386true, you take a loss on selling out concerts
>>44216287I don't understand. Not like Miko was gonna stream at this hour, so no overlap. Or that Cover ever cared about this before (Gura's 3d live was on the same day as Lui's 3d debut).
>>44216447Blame OmegaAltroon.
>/hlg/ and /ggg/ trying to convince themselves that Gura's showcase was good enough to makeup for her lack of regular streams
>>44216441Tempiss already destoryed holoEN, it's too late
>>44216478The most sensible and accurate post in this thread
>>44216543>/hlg/x to doubt
>>44216054In case you are not shitposting, subs is a 'lazy' metric since it is relatively unchanging, you don't need to constantly track ccv of each stream when someone asks how successful your streamers are. The same reason subs is used explicitly compared to money made (aka the most important metric for any business) from sc/merch/membership, since it is easier to convey to the public.
>>44216142>VOD coping alreadyEvery fucking time
>>44216334It'll be like this at least until after the EN1 Group 3D.
>>44216112The reduced numbers show that EN management fumbled the ball hard by not releasing EN3 when it was time to last year. Their homo pet project probably cost HoloEN 25-35% of their audience.
>>44215940>The more relevant someone to /vt/, to more they filter casual
>>44216543Since when did hlg care about gura?
>>44215397>3 Kiara debuffsGRIM
How much do you guys think Pikamee will get in her Graduation Stream?
>>44216610every fucking time man
>>44215055Song choice buff/debuff is real...
>>44216509I was gonna call you a fucking retard, but that would be redundant, since your retardation is evident to everybody.
>>44216543Nah, most people are disappointed
>>44216029No, uh, Japanese viewers are 1,000 times folded and have perfect retention. EN ones only watch for 3 minutes and leave. It's a cultural difference.
>>44216028they're coping with the fact that EN lose their relevancy
>>44216610>Gura gets more VOD views than some of the most popular JP members>VODs ARE COPE!!! THEY DON'T COUNT!!!You last samurai are pathetic
>>44216386EN may be reclining but remember that even in this diminished state they're still one of the biggest female streaming groups in the English speakng world. They'll sell out a concert and fast too
Merch numbers prediction for reveal day on drama buff stream?(You) will buy Pippa's merch. Right?
>>44216283Oh? Sankisei streamed at noon in a workday?>>44216509>Predict numbers>explain why they'll be a certain way>COOOOOOOOOPEHow the ffffuck is it a cope to predict something? If I told you a building is prone to collapse during an earthquake and that happened, you'd tell me I was coping about the building's quality? The fuck?
>>44216413More like you refuse to accept the shark lost the ccv race and is trying to clutch a win out of VODReminder Gura have 2x the sub, as far as VOD view goes, she actually is having an advantage over everyone. But well, a win is a win, congratulations chumbud
>>44216320>November 2021 datalole
>>44216241Gura audience demographics about a year agoThere's a reason why "vod cope" exists
>>44215704Does Cover really have no one that can do in house animations? How the hell does kanauru even wind up in the official showcase?
>>44215075>>44215397Kiara said the collab is gonna be her idea so expect some GRIM
>>44216610>VOD coping alreadyBecause it's what actually counts?
Why did she have pekomari, other than numbers? I know she likes marine, but why not aqua, shion, or okayu? Pekora didn’t bother with moona but she could for Gura?
>>44216720>Gura's 3D Live got more views than Pekora's 3D LiveYes, you are right, that is a win. More people watched Gura.
>>44216712>You should've built the building with earthquake protections, cope!
>>44216239I dunno, the ads and infomercials were nice.
>>44216703Ma'am, this is the number thread. We don't care about who is second or third. If you aren't first, you're irrelevant, disposable, garbage.
>>44216426>>44216456Fucking 'EN' branch can't perform well during EN prime time, NijiCN level cope.
>>44216706Who?
>>44216610We love numbers in this thread. But not those numbers, only the numbers that make the shark look bad! That's the most important thing!
Can anyone have a list for JP 3d showcase numbers? And does anyone did a showcase during weekday?
>>44216441EN3 could literally all be kiara/bae tier and mog the rest of the western scene.
>>44216543ahhh so you're the shitposter in /ggg/the 3D live was good.cope fagnumbers prove how good something was and according to the peak CCV it was a good 3D.not better than her first, but good nonetheless
>>44216725I mean I get it, but we've got fuckall for numbers past that point, so old-ass numbers are better than blind guessing.
By the way something I been wanting to ask. Why is more viewer = less SC a consistent trend in Vtubing world? Like bro, we can literally see it with VOD
>>44216283When was this, was it during covid?
>>44216054No, it is you and /#/ who are stupid.CCV, say it with me, is literally just "how many people were available to watch you at one time". It doesn't , and never has, reflected your full popularity. It depends on a million factors but most importantly: if you are streaming from a decent sized country (japan) for a targeted audience in a language and timeslot (again, japan), you will mog 99% of streamers. All of not, not just EN vtubers, in CCV.
>>44216730A lot has changed in a year. NTA and having this is better than nothing but there's still good reason to question if this is still accurate
Peak CCV is overvalued for not-only-streamers.But still, lazy is lazy.
>>44216610>using the most fair metric (vod views after 24 hours) is coping>using ccv which is skewed for JPs isn'togey nutsacki
I have no idea what Ame is going to do in her 3D Showcase.Did she said anything about it? A hint on guests or something?
>>44216829See >>44216730Only 26% of Gura's audience is from US.
>>44216860JP never has "showcase"
>>44216829>pst is EN prime timeRORURUMAO
>>44216754all the phony 3d stuff that no one seems to complain about outside of here(dunno why vtuber fans are so two faced) is the most annoying thing about holoEN
>>44216874>numbers prove how good something waslol
>>44216895January 2023.
>>44216112>75kMaybe 75k just from the JOP chumbies who couldn't watch. The JOP tourists (aka people who don't watch Gura but a 3d live is a 3d live) would be 10-20k on their own. I say 10-20k because let's face it, there were JOP tourists in this live anyway, it wasn't some pure cowboy bbq steak shit.
>>44216890because they get more merch to buy. Also smaller fanbase lets groomers run rampant for attention.
>>44215051this board isn't the EN vtuber sphere if you didn't know. She is reclining. No amount of coping chumkeks will change that.
are you all women
>>44216610I like how all the replies is blaming nousagi on reflex. He didn’t even attach a Pekora image
>>44216859Kek, they can't even mog Valkyrae or Pokimane
>>44216898Case in point: Spanish streamers get a massive following because all the young bastards have no money for anything, but have cheap internet and a lot of time on their hands. The result is that Spanish livestrem numbers demolish everyone else in the world.
>>44216799Gura was in Pekora's 3D Birthday.Seems talents are obligated to participate in each other's Lives. Same as with Marine.
>>44216515This was glaringly obvious since 2021. They should have struck when the iron was hot and had an actual 3D debut between Fall 2021 and Spring 2022. No one knows why this was not the case, they definitely could have afforded it judging by the amount of money they sunk into Hololive Alternative and Holo Earth. Either they were too cheap to and wanted to make the talents pay for it or they refused because it because it could be construed as favoritism somehow (despite the extraordinary circumstances of the coof). Either way, it was severe enough that Ame spent a lot of her own money and effort making her home studio and we got the Kanauru shit as a result. Hopefully future gens never have to go through this bullshit again.
>>44216712Sankisei streamed for their audience' timeslot. Gura streamed for her audience' timeslot too, no?
>>44215269why is there a telephone in a locker?
>>44216906>A lot has changed in a yearproof?
>>44217020Woman (mentally ill brown people) general thread
>>44216730 (me)Original if you don't trust google MTL
July, 18th 2022never forget, the day en management killed en
>>44216478I challenge any retard on this thread to pull out a counter-argument for this post. It makes a lot of sense.
I’m calling it now because these 3d showcases have proven to me that EN is a dying branch. EN3 will underperform in all categories and will probably hit Tempus tier. There will be one member from EN3 that will do better than the rest but she will probably only reach Kiara tier.
>>44217022you know chumbud is full on damage control now
>>44215051shitting on gura and chumtourists is just too much fun
so what does /#/ think of the Neal era so far?
>>44216890More casual viewers?
Cover has to beg for money to build a studio in Japan. How do you think they can even build on in NA?
>>44217073>one knows why this was not the caseCOVID was the reason you absolute retard.
>>44217054It's also how the Korean vtubers mog the fuck out of EN ones on twitch. Is Vtubing bigger in Korea than EN? No.Are those girls giga popular on the levle of Hololive? Also no.Is their CCV big? Yes. Cause again, dedicated audience and dedicated timeslot the entirety of that audience can watch in.
>>44217148EN killed HoloEN, these bitches don't stream!
>>44216860>6/9 Iroha 125,627 (Thursday)>6/13 Chloe 137,795 (Monday)>6/16 Koyori 104,909 (Thursday)>6/21 Lui 100,751 (Tuesday)>6/27 Laplus 152,676 (Monday)Next cope please
>>44216799From what we been told, it most likely Marine idea or something. And since Marine have the same manager with Pekora so she naturally would drag Pekora with her. But Pekora would most likely joined in if asked anyway
>>44217022No one is against VOD views after 24 hours other than Nousagi because it makes her lose to Gura
>>44215561>Mori leading the packHow has it come down to this?
>>44217139I'm mildly annoyed how the only copy of that I could find earlier was a .webp on Reddit. Reverse search just gives me generic pie charts.
>>44216615Well yeah, all the old predictions made back when Myth debuted are starting to come true. EN vtubing is being pretty badly mismanaged and becoming targeted more and more by western political activists.
>>44216829>pst>EN primeretard alert
>>44216660>no comebackKeep coping.
>gura yearly peak ccv streams>2020>119,493 Gawr Gura 2nd karaoke stream 2020-11-13 (thursday NA, friday Japan)>2021>194,140 Gawr Gura 1st costume reveal 2021-05-07 (thursday NA, friday Japan)>2022>92,207 Gawr Gura Shark 3D live 2022-09-18 (saturday NA, sunday Japan)>2023>67,405 Gawr Gura 3D showcase 2023-03-03 (thursday NA, friday Japan)>3 weekdays, 1 weekend
#AMEWAY LA CREATIVIDAD , LAST DEBUT BUFF, 60K MAXIMUM PREDICTION
>>44217256>covid booked all mocap studios in NA, Europe and Asiado you know how retarded you sound?
>>44217076Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were making a point about how Sankisei streamed during the workday and so did Gura as if that mattered. You're just saying Sankisei got more CCV than Gura. Which yes, in general, tends to happen when 2 of them have 2x Gura's ccv.
ID2 3D will mog Council 3D, won't it?
>>44217022It’s always them, just throw some bait and they come crawling. In a way they are like jp cup buds lol
>>44217324A lot of big collabs on her channel + 3D + outfit reveal.
>>44215502if VODs are your concern, you are either an advertiser or cover corp. ccv is for the sophisticated sideliner
>>44216799Considering the members were Gura, Ina and Marine, I feel like it should have been Umisea originally, with Pekora taking Aqua's spot because she couldn't join for whatever reason.
>>44217300How do you know lol
>>44216135Anon, you clearly can't read either. They added that because they want content creators that aren't just stream drones. They're probably looking for people that have actual marketable skills and they keep getting "ear licking ASMR" streamers that are a-dime-a-dozen whores that can't even play games.
>>44215051Everyone love gura, it simple.
>>44217364Only Kobo
>>44217352EN vtubing really did peak in 2021what am I still doing here
>>44217352>194,140 Gawr Gura 1st costume reveal 2021-05-07 (thursday NA, friday Japan)gura should always do events during golden week
>>44217352>yearly>it's only the beginning of March
>>44215285>Chatter overlappingHer chat always go fast no matter how much ccv she get thoughPeople dont type in chat is not equal to not watching so chatter overlap means nothing
Are nousagis here mad 'cause the reclining shark dragged their oshi to a disappointing sub 70k 3D stream?
>>44217429Just switch to JP bro.
>>44217352and what were the times each of those streams started?
>>44216543She decided to focus on HoloFest instead of her 3D showcase which is the right choice.
>>44217352Anon the outfit was during Golden Week.
>>44217469LolLmao
>>44216949They certainly did 3d debut/showcase>>44217270So any other JP other than holox? Not coping just curious.
>>44217448More like their oshi contributed to its disappointing numbers.
>>44217469I'm not learning japanese just for entertainment
>>44217073After all that we still got Kanauru in Gura's showcase.
>>44217352One of these was not like the others
>>44217426>ID2>KoboBased blind and retarded anon
i belieb ame will beat mori
>EN reclining>JP thrivingFeels good
Dunno about you guys but this part was pretty funny
>>44217469>learning a dead languageHow about no
>>442173551. Cover does not want to rent a 3rd party studio.2. They did not have the capital to build one themselves.3. Why the fuck would they do that just for 5 3D showcases anyway? No matter how successful Myth was, that is just not a smart investment.
>>44217599I belieb she won't
>>44217622man marines coat really ruined all the ass shots
>>44217622>The "chumbud" is actually Vesper
>>44217352Goddamn. So who's lined up to be gura's successor in the EN sphere?
>>44217602>thriving
>>44217622no fun allowed.seize posting immediately.
Ameway sound like a cursed term given how much this thread like to parrot it
Interesting
>>44217579I have dyspepsia.
I have a feeling Ame is going to overperform expectations just a bit for a few reasons.1. Creatividad reputation2. Final showcase3. Better day of the weekI'm gonna say 50-55k
>>44217122
https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1631493603074920448https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1631493603074920448https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1631493603074920448Speaking of EN
>>44217751>pinoykek
>>44217333Are you just going to keep deflecting when the elephant in the room is that these girls never fucking stream. And when there’s a hyped event like this, they fumble it. Same thing happened with Myth’s off collab, massive hype followed by everyone realising they have no synergy with each other and some of them need to be forced to streaming.
>>44217364lol, no. ID2 was more like myth-lite, myth recline and so does that entire gen. they will get even worse numbers than myth, let alone council
>>44217469I wish I was saying this in peak japanese hours: learning japanese to enjoy the many japanese forms of media is fine.Learning it *specifically* to understand Pekora saying the same 10 canned phrases for 4 fucking years is peak retarded. I can top to bottom understand every nuance of what Pekora says during a stream and my jap level is N-0thing
so how did cover never get another sexy blonde after choco
>>44217751No Indonesia?
>>442176611. Cover is retarded.2. They did and do.3. Because it is retarded to try and run a tech company from Japan with limited access to technology, talent and a captive audience.
>>44217505thats a japan holiday not a NA/sea one. This chart >>44217139 was 2021 so only 13%-20% nip tourists she can get
>>44217715JP gets cool sponsorships meanwhile EN only gets sponsorships for shitty Korean gacha games. That’s all I need to know about the status of EN.
>>44217713>Vesper Lmao the only chad in Tempus is Axel
>>4421777810k possible for his POV in the finals or whatever? I don't really know too much about vsaikyou
>>44217448Yes, this is a disgrace
>>44217622>Is that a HoloJP?>YABBA DABBA DOOO
>>44217778As a captain or talent?
>>44217751>No Indonesiaweird
>>44217792That's why EN3 was needed to cover for Myth getting burnt out.
>>44217622They hate it because it was the Most HOLOLIVE out of all of them. She even included CouncilRyS, something the other 3 didnt do.
>>44217716
>>44217448That's too much sister, Gura's number is grim enough, no need to start another holo vs holo to shit up the thread.
>>44216028Only idiots would want them to move out of their primary market timeslot. People just need to be more realistic in that Thursday is garbage and nobody is locked at home due to covid anymore. 2020 numbers are gone and especially after the cull changes.
>>44217778>yagoo backing his failures like clockwork
ok, but who is the flattest member of hololive?
>>44217839I'm thinking you're the retard here, my man.
>>44217806
>>44217910>. She even included CouncilRySNo? Just because Kanauru is a meme ridden faggot who references everything and its mother n his videos doesn't mean she purposely included them
>>44217894He mention team, so ... Captain? Tho Idk how skill is the guy, last time he was carried by RPR
>>44217751>No Taiwan
>>44217843Retard. Literally none of HoloEN's giga streams have ever been without massive JOP tourists. And a general 13-20% Nip audience doesn't mean that was the spread for that stream AAAGH WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO STUPID I'D FIRE YOU OUT OF ANY ANALYSIS JOB
Somehow Pippa reading out Harry Potter fan erotica incest stories is more entertaining than Gura 3D
>>44217448She actually dragged the numbers down and they are deflecting like the hogwarts trannies lol
>>44217806Blonde doesn't seem like such a big buff. If you could pick, you'd be better off as a blue woman with white hair than a blonde
>>44217916Too edgy. She's going to end up yabbing hard.
>>44217974This. Also gura hates IRyS so I doubt they would include her.
>>44217916Would pippa do well if she got picked up by HoloEN?
>>44217300Surely you have proof, right?
>>44217961that's a man
>>44217974>Gura didn't approve the things that appeared in her 3D showcaseSmartest poster in this thread.
Alright guys, I'm out. Keep on shitting the thread for me, ok?
>>44217894Invitations are for team captain onlyOdd he will bring Ollie and Rpr with him
>>44217827It afternoon.
>>44217948Ina probably. She literally has 0
>>44217910Gura literally despises IRyS and IRyS doesn't like Gura so this is incorrect.
I can't believe people here think they know more than industry professionals
>>44217778Good chance for him to incline if he doesn't blow it.
>>44217778https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1631499944077975554?t=6R3WCOTyRUiD5cw4FjdXag&s=19
>>44217958>no argumentThey booked third party studios during that time period btw.
>>44217806My wife is plenty sexy, thanks.
>>44217751>Chumbuds are flips>Nousagis are flips>35ps are flipsWhy are they constantly fighting each other again?
>>442174682020 karaoke (6pm or 7pm ET)2021 costume reveal (9am JST)2022 3d showcase (1pm JST)
>>44218100this thread is full of karens, why are you surprised ?
>>44218127How would he hope to incline being in the same tournament as KING? The King will hog all the spotlight as usual
What is the point of keeping HoloEN again?
>>44217622Could be better
You guys realize that with all the "we need Japanese, VOD numbers will save Goomba, just wait 24 hours" you just admitted that EN market indeed reclined as fuck and you need JP for big noombers.
>>44217020I wonder if there are women out there that hate holos for being rich and famous for no real reason.
Thank god this thread exists so the rest of the gens can be at peace. Godspeed number trannies you really take one for the rest of the board
>>44218201to shit on nijien
>>44217622It was a fun 3D Live. The skits were perfectly on brand for Gura and I enjoyed seeing every single one. The only real complaint is that the pose off and the math segment ran a little too long. Could have probably shortened them a little bit and maybe added a song performance with another Hololive member.
>>44218136She really is moving towards being a whore for a few of the EN boys huh
>>44218161Why did you use EST for one stream and then JST for the other two?
>>44218012cry more cumkek your oshi is reclining holoEN is dying
>>44218201Well, your seething is important to the board.
>>44217751Gura is a flip confirmed lol
>>44218233Ywnbj
>>44217806Flare is the sexiest holo, and dwarves are gay. even their women are bearded
>>44218201To keep the ENsharts contained
>>44218213Do you think this is an own? Half of the discussion in here each day is about the EN market reclining...
thank god for gura or else pol would run this site
>>44217716Literally no one.
>>44218201Fauna and Mumei
>>44218213>just admittedat what point will you stop pretending like this is all some kind of big gotcha, like we haven't all been seeing the charts for the past year
>>44218231The “No Holostars” rule had been broken by Ollie, so everything is fair game nowDon’t think she got invitations as captain this year? So yeah, if she want to be in Vsaikyou Axel is her only choice
>>44218197Then he must simply kill the king.
>>44218213Gura's appeal extends to the japs tho. We already had a en girls travel to japan arc and they were all amazed how Gura was everywhere ...........
>>44218213Cumpedos cannot do long, complicated logical flowchartsThey'll try to articulate a comeback that might completely invalidate their first point, but will allow them to smugly spam.
>>44218136Honorary VSPO
>>44217778Well, if he's not a dumb shit and proves to be skilled or entertaining enough, he can get numbers. Otherwise he'll just stay a shitter, just like Matsuri.
EN is global, JP is East and SEAsia.
>>44218316rip EN...
>>44218201To keep pag pags like you mad
>>44215940Gura is too strong
Well, there's your 24k+ tourists
>>44218201MoneyOnly JP and NA are important for revenue, while SEA/AUS is practically worthless for revenue
>>44215922You forget, she might have spics down south that might want to watch live and the 3D Live was too late for them as well. I honestly don't understand that fixation on PST hours for broadcasts other than Japanese work autism.
>>44218321Because it's a Nijifag pretending to be a HoloJP fan.
>>44218201What's the point of keeping HoloID?They don't bring Cover moneyNo one buys their merchAnd they're bunch of 1k shitter
you know what is G R I M?
>>44218213>past 8 months have been all grim talk about how EN management is killing off HoloEN because of tempus and witholding ENGOTCHA!! well damn it seems like we were right all this time!
>>44218229One more song could have been perfect but I think it will be save for her birthday/anniv.
>>44218213Well, no shit the EN market has reclined for HoloEN: more competition, no lockdowns, a lack of members within the branch to cover for those that are burning out, the introduction of a homoEN branch that fucked up a lot of the perceived unity within HoloEN and their fanbase among other things.
>>44217364Anya will have the biggest numbers
>>44218397According to chumbuds, East + SEAsia > global
>>44218213Gura has always had good VODs tho
>>44218012Anon, step away from the keyboard and go get a drink. It's just gonna be shitposting for the rest of the day regardless of how the numbers pan out.
>>44218050Nothing and she won't. She knows her content would never fly in Holo.
>>44218466huh?
>>44218466hey at least she secured the bag
https://youtu.be/r6WbbU_lLCAGold btw. I kneel to the true numberfags
Why is this thread so single-mindedly focusing on CCV alone when the numbers for sucess come from so many sources like merch, subs, vod, tweets, sponsorships, event attendance?
>no mori>no kiaraand you faggots said this was the worst showcase
>>44218386He is a himbo, and it is further proven by the browser tab and bookmark reveal.
>>44218304Does previous thread, this thread or catalog with 20 Gura bait threads look any better than /pol/? I'll answer to you. No.
>>44218230i dont have the exact time for the first one. based on these its probably 10am - 11am JST
>>44218327
>>44218431Space X first army
>>44218201Gura merch make bank for CoverHololive is nothing without Gura
>numbers thread>refuses to acknowledge VOD numbersDo you people not realize how stupid this sounds? Mine as well rename this thread to "/#/ - CCV and Superchat"
>>44218576Too much shitposting right now, come back when /#/ isn't getting flooded by shit and maybe we can have a reasonable talk about different markets non-ccv numbers without it getting drowned in bullshit.
>>44218576Because this thread is full of room-temperature IQ retards
>>44218576Because NijiEN destroys HoloEN on half of those things and focusing on those things will reveal that HoloEN isn't as dominant as this thread pretends it is.
>>44218576Gura dominate all those so discussions about them is kind of pointless
>>44216478it's not fun when gura is winning
>>44218576Oh, is it time?
>>44218466>Kiara so grim she's giving KFP personal attention now.
>>44218657>never come backnahone
>>44218050she feeds on drama, what would she talk about with that taken away?
>>44218085rpr can't play in vsaikyou.
>>44218567How many viewfarms?
>>44218576probably because those all get responded to with merch cope sub cope vod cope twitter cope
>>44218466faggot
>>44218466that's indie behavior, a good way to build a strong core audience and never incline
>>44218437What does delivery/content service mean? Superchats and membership?
Will they be forced to cancel HoloEarth now?
>>44218466cute
>>44218576>>44218640SEAkeks who don’t want to mention IDs averages
>>44218633careful, they might say that merch sales do not count, just like vod views
>>44218657The only time this thread ever talked about non-ccv numbers was right after the IPO docs dropped. They were then promptly memory-holed.
>>44218700Don’t he have a Vtuber model?
>>44218687>now.
>>44218576>>44218640There are a lot of shitposters in here, anon.
>>44218085RPR can't enter vsaikyou because he is the same case as Kamito. he will be a coach at best
>>44218326She gave her invite back because she already has a team anon. Axel might have got her invite for all we know.
>>44218466Giving a fuck about your fans and interacting with them is grim now? Chumbuds are utterly fucked in the head.
>>44215269a fax machine inside the thing
>>44218766didn't he give up vtubing for a bit now?
>>44218466I'm just hoping this won't mindbreak her. She will be mocked hard.
>>44218676LMAOAre nijikeks all this delusional?
>>44218576>tweetsVTWEETERS NOW IT'S OUR CHANCE TO SHINE!
>>44218657The only time this thread gets really into the weeds of non-ccv related metrics is either when something like the IPO drops like the other anon said, or when chumbuds need to defend themselves
>>44218443this.people forget that NA hours isn't just US and Canada, it also includes a bit of LatAm countries.
>>44218640You realize VOD cope is VOD cope because Gura has like 2 videos per month, and holos that are actually trying have 20-ish?The only metric that Gura is doing well in is average VOD views per video. In an average month she gets 1/2 the views of Pekora or Marine.
>>44218787But he joined with Axel and Ragus last time, no?
>>44218567>J. ColeEN GOLD
>>44218576Why are chumbuds like this? Gura fails once and they immediately start crying about fucking subs and vod views. Literal fucking manchildren, just accept the loss like a man.
alright, how many (you)s did you farm in the last 2 threads?
>>44218833elaborate
>>44218640Unironically twitch fags. They sperg out and show there true colors showing their flesh streamers once in a while here . VODs have no value for twitch streamers so they dont understand.
>>44218100>industry professionals know moreThe industry professionals>Cover>let's debut more males>Nijisanji>ACCERELATE
Bloop where
>>44218085Ollie? doesn't he need to get a certain number of skill points or whatever? Ollie, god bless her, isn't exactly good at apex. She can't be worth, like, any points
Why are JP whores so lazy? Why isn't anyone streaming?
>>44218633What is this? Goodsmile?
It’s never not funny when copebuds proceed with their VOD cope bit. Like keep going buddy, we’re not listening.
>>44218766He is a former apex pro. He is not allowed to play regardless of his model.
>>44218880>muh dirt poor shitholesWoow!
>>44217837do they know about the cull? or are those just shitposters?
>>44218926it's EN primetime
>>44218727SCs, memberships, musicProb ad revenue even tho it's not mentioned here
>>44218576CCV is king
>>44218903https://files.catbox.moe/uimgz2.jpg
>>44218920BLOOP IS A WHORE
>>44218690I mean, sometimes, when no one in EN is streaming and the shitposters are baited by something in the catalogue, you can get some reasonable discussion about numbers here. That won't be anytime soon though with Fes4 around the corner. >>44218765Nah, here and there during primetime EN when it's quiet it's alright, but with the showcases happening right now and Fes4 soon.....yea, it's shitpost central. Then you have the whole Pikamee situation drumming up the /pol/tards and everything THAT entails, and well.....
The metric that actually matters is watch time, which is why CPM is variable in the first place and has been since the 10 minute meta of like 2012.Sorry cumbuds, streaming 2 hours per month isn't gonna cut it.
>>44218640Pekora can't beat Gura in VOD views so Noutoddlers gaslit everybody into thinking VODs don't matter. The fact of the matter is that VOD views do matter and Gura > Pekora.
>>44218886Gura always overperformed in VODs even when she was pretty active. You can pick random shit, like her one-block minecraft challenge from way back, and compare it to comparables and it'll overperform. It's really not that big a deal, she does well in that metric, but it doesn't diminish pekomarine or mean they aren't the premier talents in the company (they are)
>>44218889it was not VSaikyou. VSaikyou don't allow Ex-Pro and flesh streamer to participate even tho they have vtuber model
>>44218948>dirt poor shitholes>getting beaten by IDyeaaaah...
>>44219034n-nice
This was the first time since i started watching hololive that I couldn't catch a 3d stream live because of the time. Fuck you cover.
Man Im glad I forgot about the 3d 60k isnt even grim its despair
>>44218889That is Shibuya Hal customs. Hal himself plays in those, so do many pro players. It's open to everyone. Vsaikyou is not.
Bloop would've brought another 40k, you can't change my mind
>>44219007JP whores are lazy because it's EN primetime? Weird reason but if you say so.
>>442190732022chama...
>>44219034Please continue
>>44219051Too bad we will never get our hands on watch time metrics. Could settle a lot very quickly if we did
Wait, is anyone tracking the Gura merch?
Anon. Remember that your oshi’s 3d lives got delayed outsourced for this and homolives
>>44218886Oh boo hoo, she doesn't shit out 20 or more forgettable streams like the leech coyote or snooze inducing blacksmith, whatever shall she do...
>>44219082>dirt poor shithole vs dirt poor hellholeWowwowowo
>>44218948Hey, numbers are numbers (even if they're worthless from a monetary perspective).
>>44218567At least EN isn't a debuff for KR
>>44219034
>/#/ uses ccv>always same chuubas>let's create cripple tally>oshi still losing>Merch tally>not very optimistic>we will now measure vod views too
>>44219129Maybe Cover will release some interesting data now that they're going public. Anycolor puts out some juicy stuff, right?
>>44218466This is why kiara will never get normalfag audience
>>44217882I would be surprised if he even reaches 5k
>>44219098>Caring about the dumb rules of something like VsaikyouIt's a bush league tournament that is going to be rigged for Kuzuha to win anyway.
>>44218576because the unfortunate reality is that advertisers care about subs above all else and its the most boring metric
>>44219179Cumbuds are pathetic, everyone already knew this.
>>44219149>coping this hard losing to IDare EOP minds this fragile?
>>44219130I didn't bother because posting numbers to this shithole is useless. They just get buried in shitposts.
>>44219183Sometimes, but as far as I know nothing related to watch time yet
>>44219034goddamnit
>>44219179Don't forget the gura views All of gura's #s are 2x because she is goober
>>44217751>Worldwide #3NA carry
*BREATHES IN* IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AIRISUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>44219260Now would be a good time anon, shitposters have started to go away
too big?
>>44219130All myth's merch pre-order is after the 3D collab.
>>44218437They’re using revenue from contracts, can you check their balance sheet how much unearned income they have? Those are basically sales already received but are not yet recognized because the service is not rendered yet
Stop samefagging just because nobody is paying attention to you
>>44219179>chumbuds are coping retardsin other news, water is wet.
lots of falseflagger huhI'll come back at JP prime time
>>44219179Cover literally uses them, cope more nijishart
If you consider the EN cull she probably got 90k-100k
>>44218633Anon, that money is almost entirely going to Good Smile Company.
>>44219298too small
>>44219281BASED BASED BASED BASED
>>44219179It's either that or chumbuds mass suicide. We can't afford for the EN ccv to shrink any more than it has already
>>44219260I'd say throw it up now
>>44219148Chumbuds are so funny
>>44219334Source?
>>44217716No one unless we get another pandemic
>>44219224I'm sorry I'm not retarded.
>>44219025I guess supas and membership are good revenue generators. But I believe this is before the YT cut.
>>44219370Don't worry, he's just coping
>>44219073>'Nousagis are bad'>Behaves exactly like nousagis.
>>44219293Why would I? So some faggot can scream "MERCH COPE" at me. No thanks. Do it yourself.
>>44219179cripple tally was made by nijinigs
smells a lot like kfp in here
>>44219148Can’t have a forgettable stream when you have no streams kek
When will Ame stop playing ShitPEX?https://youtu.be/WGQQcZbXpvU
>>44219148Instead she's lucky to shit out two forgettable streams a month, if she's not on break LEMAO
>>44219370Do you know how manufacturing works?
where did the gaijin tally go
This is not a good day to be a numberfag. Are there even any good news today besides Pippa?
>>44218466It's cute.
>>44219148Chumbuds are genuine holo antis I swear.
>>44219406Some faggot is gonna scream merch cope at you regardless. Will you post it during JP hours?
>>44219073Pekora had like twice the VOD views that Gura had last year
>>44219410yet we acknowledge it?
>>44218520Burning out from what? They are barely streaming and they are only like 2 years old. Aqua at least used to do 12 hours long streams and had several sololives.
>>44219074>Reasonable arguments without downplaying anyone.You don't belong here. But thank god for existing, a breath of fresh air in this shithole [/endspoiler]
>>44215922I'm PST and I'll readily concede that the EST timeslots are what western vtubers should focus on. If you start focusing on PST slots, your audience becomes more SEA-centric.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4R8DWoMoI7CAwX8_LjQHig?persist_gl=1&gl=JP
>>44219148lol
>>44219434Do you think the valuable part of a Hololive nendoroid is the 5 cents worth of plastic, or the IP? Do YOU know how manufacturing works?
I'm excited to see their 3D soon!
Just gonna remind all you faggots that no matter how much you shitpost, fulgur still isn't gonna fuck you
>>44218466what is she doing?
>>44219410I thought it was made by some vshojokek then co-opted by nijinigs
>>44219560Why’d you pick the two whores of council?
>Actual /jp/ and niji false flag niggers LmaoYou will never be a womanYou wil never be JapaneseYou will kill yourself before you do anything meaningfulYou will witness the decline of japan in your lifetimes and everything you love about it with it
>>44219458Gaijin tally went poof after Kobo and Vox reclined. It was only ever done to do the Kobo vs Vox mem fight (was funny). Now both dont even reach the cripple tally half the time. Its not needed.
>>44219596Because they're my whores
>>44219313It'll be worse
>>44219579Pretty much, but now the thing is just....sadness to look at.
>>44219478>shits on holos that other people like>they shit on holos that you like, in retribution>suddenly, they are in the wrong
>>44218567vtuber numberfags wish they numberfagged as hard as kpop sisters do. Counting music program wins, viewcount milestones, tracking chart positions for multiple music streaming platforms, fancam views, and all while the fans will happily sit in front of their devices to farm views for their favorite groups.
Yeah, EN3 is dead. Hololive better invest in JP7 or ID4.
>>44219626reminds me of twitter trannies
>>44219608Well I wouldn’t technically call them yours lmao
>>44219560HOLY CUTE! >>44219579nah, nijinigs been trying to rewrite history like always.
>>44219626>I'm talking to antis so that means I should be an anti too!
>>44218326Towa has been showing up stars youtube chat and replying to stars on twitter since year 1.
>>44218928https://otakumode.com/shop/bestsellersThat pic is out of dateGura is still at the top in weekly and monthly, but is currently #6 at dailyAnd Mori's at #3 weekly, #12 monthly, and no longer is in dailyThough daily fluctuates a lot obviously
>>44219148Right thread king
>>44219148>>44219478>>44219626samefag
>>44218640CCV is a fun metric to horse race each dayVOD takes too long and waiting is boring
>>44219600Anon's favorite anime girl is losing a number war to the big bad yellow man and he goes full the west is fallen LMAOCumbuds are so pathetic Jesus Christ
>>44218825Chumbuds will dogpile you for saying Gura should stream more.I honestly don't get it.
>>44219560based
>>44219608ok anon, enjoy your whores getting dicked down by their ugly BFs
>>44219410The original EN Tally guy was an IRyStocrat but he went MIA after the Eagles lost the Super Bowl. The current guy who does the EN Tally....who knows. He just copies the overall tally format and doesn't add the flair the original EN Tally guy did.
>>44219179More like>use subs and vods count>but it does not count because we are losing. So we must use ccv forever.And then it stuck because this thread is gaslit.All numbers are important. The tribalists just want to use the numbers that make their tribe look good.Chumbies want subs count and VODs.JP-only bros only want CCV.Others want SCs.You cannot win an argument against tribalists, with their non-compromising stances on various numbers.
>>44219560CUTE
if the kfpsisters could stop seething, that'd be great
>>44219764Hey! I take offense at that! I'm not ugly!
>>44219729english website, learn english
so how mad are the "nousagis' here when Pekora keeps doing stuff with Gura since last summer?
>>44219560I was in the 2hu thread the other day and anon told me Faumei have the same dynamic as Futo and Tojiko
>doxxniggerExplains why this thread is shit with one of them floating around
Pekomarine mocopi revenge stream later at 2000jst. Oh nonononononohttps://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1631253007013937154?cxt=HHwWhIDU3fL9r6MtAAAA
>>44219824They don't even watch or like Pekora, they just think Peko v Gura is the easiest way to shit up the thread
>>44219599It's only resurrected for a brief period whenever Kobo is having a good stretch.
>>44219829Dunno if he's right, but they're the best pair in EN currently
It's sad niji sisters can only use other Holo's to shit on HoloENBecause nijien is already a sunk shipvox's massive drama return sub 10k btw
>>44219729LMAO>SEA TRANNY NIGGERSEA TRANNY NIGGER>SEA TRANNY NIGGERSEA TRANNY NIGGER>SEA TRANNY NIGGER
>>44219458I'm here.
>>44219300Best I could find for last quarter
>>44219846jpchads where we at
>>44219820You first, since you seem to have a hard time reading.
>>44219298prone to back injuries
>>44219458Here>>44170646
>>44219771Lot of people have dissappeared and will disappeared since shitposting gets worse and worse and now after the wizard game /pol/fags run rampart /here/. Jannies are fucking useless.
>>44219410>>44219579Where the hell is this narrative coming from? Cripple tally started with someone jokingly suggesting it because HoloEN couldn't reliably make the regular tally but still mogged NijiEN every day and to garner acknowlegement of that.
>>44219846That's not what it is you shitposting nigger.
>>44219560
>>44219696>otakumodeC'mon, the yen is weak as fuck. Any person with a brain would order from some site like Amiami instead.
>>44219846I don't see it getting more than 65k. If Gura is the only Myth to not get a 3D showcase gold how should we treat chumbud numberfags?
my cute wife
>>44219846You bamboozled me nigga and I literally just fell off my chair for thisHow will you compensate me and my ass?
>>44219846
>>44219846OH NO NO
>>44219729Brown hands typed this post
>>44219773I think the thing is we want a metric that's not stagnant because then we'd end up with the same ranking every time and there's no point to that
>>44219599For someone still getting 50k subs a month you'd expect Kobo to have higher ccv. I assume a lot of it is the music.
Gura chose some weird ass merch. A manpurse? I don't see that selling gangbusters
>>44219939Read your post againEnglish website, learn english
>>44219846>NoelMarine>PekoMarineWhen will she finish with the whole gen and do a FureaMarine mocopi stream?
>>44219561...the plastic, retard. You forgot to add in the costs to pay people to make it, run the machines, R&D to improve manufacturing processess. Everyone wants a nendo for their anime or game but they only accept what they want to make, what they think will sell well.The margins on re-selling merchandise is like, 8-12% across all industries. Mark up for premium brands is a thing but in this case, the premium brand is nendo and Cover will have to pay more per product than if they used a cheap, random Vietnamese manufacturer. For a thread about numbers you guys ignore them a lot
>>44219955I swear the screenshot I've seen floating around was some vshitshow fan whining that nobody tracked twitch numbers, so he started the tally to totally prove vsj owns HoloEN
>>44219846You don't need to shitpost anon. The Niji 3D will easily beat Gura for gold.
>>44219410People always say that but why would it be true? NijiEN only performed well for like a month, and even then they weren't really beating Gura that I can remember.
>>44219846Like I said before: JP never takes a day off whenever Gura gets a decent number.
>>44219987this is the best ogey and i'm tired of pretending it's not
https://twitter.com/jakesucky/status/1630720946788237314?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gw>It’s another episode of big black guy getting big numbers on TwitchWhy are Twitchfag obsessed with BBC?
>>44220010Kobo only has 1 original and 3 solo covers. Most of her subs came from TikTok.
>>44215075>Hololive EN official Channel
>>44220010Kobos VODs are really strong
>>44220064Cripple tally doesn't even do twitch numbers, we've never really done twitch numbers on a regular basis because they aren't directly comparable. We've had some interesting analysis of Isegye and stuff like that but it's not a daily thing.
>>44220064Fake news. At some point I'll go back in the archives to find the exact start of the cripple tally but the first red flag for that narrative should be that cripple tally has never included twitch numbers since its inception. In fact someone used to do an exclusive twitch tally but they didn't keep it up for too long
>>44220069They were becoming competitive with HoloEN at the time, which was enough for the sisters to push for the cripple tally.
>>44215224Well for one it only ever gets brought up when Gura doesn’t get gold.
>>44220132Well no shit VOD is directly tied to sub numbers
>>44220033>I assure you guys, Cover Corp is making bad money licensing their IP>this is why all the girls shill their nendosYou sound like a complete tard
>>44220015Seems like Management mandated stuff, all of it is releasing after Myth 3D stream. Gura like to talk about merch ideas in members and a manpurses doesnt sound like something she would come up with...
Answer me this question chumbud? When has anyone cared about VOD views for Gura stream outside of here? No one. CCV is king and even the normal fags bust nuts to CCV. You don’t see anyone in the comments of gura’s videos boasting about their VOD viewership
>>44220112Old school American internet values. They are moving to trannies though.
Have you noticed that there's been fewer hololive fans in /vt/ compared to last year? Did EN unironically killsed their fanbase?
>>44219917>>44219991You are so mad, keep the replies coming>>44220020>Anon's [your] favorite anime girl [Gura] is losing a number war to the big bad yellow man [holoJP] and he [you] goes full the west is fallen [common expression used by chuds online] LMAOShould I annotate the sentence structure to make it easier for you to read or what? Did you drop out after elementary?
>>44220132Are they? I’ve never checked
>>44219971DELET THISMUMEI HAS NEVER COLLABED WITH A BOYNEVER NEVER NEVER
>>44220187>>44220187I don’t think Niji 3D will beat Gura. No fucking way she will be the only Myth to not get a gold
*GAIJIN TALLY FOR 01 MAR 2023*>18,696: Mori (HoloEN)>9,147: Kobo (HoloID)>9,081: Kobo (HoloID)>8,877: Mysta (NijiEN)>5,860: Moona (HoloID)>5,715: Kaela (HoloID)
>>44219955first en tally mention was from a vwhorejo back in 2021
>>44219325total vod views for you chumbuds
>>44216890The smaller the live audience size is, the higher the incidence of parasocial activity. Outside of the few holos that have high CCV and high rate of unicorns, the ones that interact with chat more often will have more people paying to chat. This is especially true of those who encourage that behavior by reading every Super Chat.
>>44220033Do you have a source for the revenue split/ licensing fees for a nendoroid? Both sides of the argument are just speculating if there's no real numbers.Yes, manufacturing has costs, but premium nendos retail for like $60, I doubt they cost half of that to manufacture
>>44220197Where did I say they were making bad money? Not my fault you have shit reading compression. Try again.
Why do they even care for the US market? Their whole pop culture nowadays is filled with niggas anyway. No chance some asian pop culture will suceed there unless it's niggafied like K-Pop.
>>44220112I think you posting about this here tells me you have some issues anon.
>>44220069NijiEN won May of last year tho. Thats when NijiEN was inclining fast.
>>44220215Cover cares lmao, stop trying to sweep that under the rug /jp/nigger
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>>44216890Because the average chumfaggot is a poorfag zoomer that only watches hololive clips
>>44220277Was March 2nd ever decided between Murdoc and Vox?
>>44220215>still seethingSister just take the L already
I hope Gura changes her twitter avatar at least once, need to add her
>>44219599>Kobo reclined when Luxiem reclinedThey are _____?
>>44220295You said the money was "almost entirely going to Good Smile". Which is a fucking retarded thing to say. Of course Cover is making bank on these nendos, they aren't in the business of licensing their IP to make pennies. Or, if you weren't this anon >>44219334, then you're defending a retarded statement for no reason
smells like chumbuds in here
>>44218214Anon, there are women out there that are jealous of other women for pettier reasons than that. Hell, the mere act of a girl getting attention of boys is enough to send other girls down a spiral of jealous seethe.
>>44220222Tempus divided the fanbase really bad both here and in Reddit. Yes it seems like some fans definitly had enough and just fucked off.
>Pekora>300k-500k VOD added every single day>Gura>400-600k VOD added once per week>h-heh those dumb nousagi don't like VOD views because they would get destroyedAre chumbuds this bad at maths?
The existence of /#/ has brainwashed the whole /vt/ to think that CCV matters. THE MOST
>>44220163>>44220182kk I dug up the image, I was misremembering the vsj guy trying to insert himself as the originator.
>>44220315Wasn't that the month that HoloEN basically took off? I remember multiple days when there were zero HoloEN streams around that time.
>>44220404Nah, that's just your mothers vag
>>44220231Read it again
is this the timeloop general?
>>44220379Fauna isn't an idol.
>>44219977It's actually pretty competitive price-wise: $189 vs $181In fact, it probably was around the same effective price about a month ago before the yen depreciated further
>>44220380Kobo still mogs Luxiem nowadays anywayThis won't change
Actual unironic chumkeks in /#/ and their VOD timeloop, what a day!
>>44220285That’s not what was on the slides jp nigger :) nice try tho
>>44220222>Tempus>Ages since council debuted and people are just choosing to peace out instead of waitingWhoever decided to debut tempus before en3 needs to be fired, shout out of a cannon, and their ashes fired AGAIN.
>>44220479yes
>>44220446Well the last card is “If Gura stream more she would destroy Pekora”, but again that is hypothetically. Chumbud completely ignore the string of 200k VOD streams she did before her break
>>44215673But enough about nijinigger
>>44220485how do we save the yen