/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>44109416
>Filtered those that thought he was a cool bloke by revealing he's instead a retarded menhera who just wants to leech from the girls
I basically stopped watching after the whole Vesperonii arc nonsense started, unsubbed and never looked back.

>>44109391
It's actually impossible for it to be anything else. He can't submit his tax return for the year April 6th 2022 to April 5th 2023 in January 2023 because there are still 3 months left of that tax year.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/file-your-self-assessment-tax-return-early/file-your-tax-return-early
>you can do your tax return early - as soon as the tax year ends, you can submit your tax return at a time that suits you
You need to wait until April 6th 2023 to file your tax return for the 2023 year.

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>44108990
its not
depends on the yt server
>>44109416
>What's the logic here?
started bleeding viewers during the collab with mori so collabs with the girls shrink their floors since they are now the accessories to them
same thing happened with nijien females

>>44109567
It's always peculiar how their numbers never really fluctuate.

>>44109527
He try to be a tough guy but this is also the same guy who have severe social anxiety and have to take his meds. Nigga probably too scared to square up with Regis too but I will refrain from making asusmptions

>>44109416
18k people doko?

>>44109610
Every streamer have a floor made of people who wouldn’t go anywhere as long as they stream at certain hour

>>44108255
>>44108515
Gura (with Myth) also debuted at the perfect moment, and out of the anime "youtube meme singers" she was arguably the biggest (even if she hated the resulting fanbase)

Textbook case of great talent + perfect opportunity = overwhelming success

Now if only she actually cared about numbers and streaming, stopped ghosting and being scared of twitter, and wasn't as frail, she'd be the perfect EN chuuba

>>44109567
So unless he gets raided, Vesper is about to have his lowest Zatsu stream ever, just the day after being part of an 18k collab.
Picrel was his previous low from right before he got suspended.

>>44109617
For some reason tourists don't like watching 40yo incel solo.

GRIM

Lul spectrum or another pekoschizo was still seething last thread when miko slipped and peko wasn’t even streaming publicly.

OH NO NO NO NO
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Vesper still has time to beat 2k with his zatsu but his lower zatsu on record is
>2,261
so there is a distinct chance this will be his LOWEST CHAT STREAM ON RECORD EVER
I wonder what could have caused this

>>44109544
See, that makes a fair bit more sense then, because there simply was no way the numbers would make sense otherwise and I was scratching my head over the numbers that were being given.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>32,543: Nerumero (Indie)
>32,442: Subaru (Hololive)
>32,085: Miko (Hololive)
>29,789: Hal (Neo Porte)
>24,820: Koyori (Hololive)
>24,512: Kanata (Hololive)
>22,042: NeruMero (Indie)
>18,696: Calliope (Hololive)
>14,435: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,745: Nene (Hololive)
>13,557: Watame (Hololive)
>13,356: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,790: Genshin Mosu (Indie)
>12,393: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>12,278: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,254: Ema (VSPO)
>11,825: Choco (Hololive)
>11,504: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,377: Genshin Mosu (Indie)

>NijiEN bragging about the mad superchat multibillionaires
>it turns out they made fucking nothing
wow

Kek what's with this Hololive /cgdct/ global
>>44063881

>Pikamee graduating is being covered by honest to God political drama tubers
https://youtu.be/9QHLMUEex18

>>44109715
But if she care about number she wouldn’t be Gura
Reminder “Caring about number” is a stigma, Japan or EN alike

>>44109527
>>44109727
I don't remember asking.

>>44109839
Oh no it actually proves that they only recieve income through superchats and everything else goes back to the company including merch and sponsorships

>>44109846
It’s you trying to keep your shitty bait attempt at splitting global alive despite not hitting bump limit in over 12 hours

>>44109416
No he didn't lol. Mori had one of her mid tier streams of all time.

These numbers do not belong to the homos, they will not incline them, ever. I gotta admit thought I hate Tempiss even I don't understand how the fuck they keep reclining after every girl collab, the theories presented about mad brotuber audiences make no sense to me he's already yabba dabba doos plenty of times before who is there left to filter.

>>44109803
How long until he has another yab and gets suspended

>>44109727
all he does is chatting streams he's bound to recline sooner or later.

>>44109617
theyre too busy damage controling the pikamee graduation

>>44109898
Anycolor is a Black company confirmed

>>44109804
Yea and he was trying to spin pekora ‘slipping’ her minecraft #567 against mori’s 3d by 3 ccv, while miko slipped on the same day by 10k too rumao.

>>44109803
Here is his bottom 10. This stream might escape it but continue being the lowest "Just chatting" in his record.
Looks like the sisters are more bothered by "YABADABADOO" than the lads

>>44109864
Who? Also whatever happened to the niji dramatuber thing?

>>44109567
Nina is just female Vesper

>>44109864
Right wingoids love to shit on troons. Let them fight, the more people see the cancerous elements of the extremes and the worse it gets, the sooner we can get back to a less extreme environment in entertainment.

>>44109806
3-10 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>44109953
Pretty sure Niji just did nothing after he put in a counterclaim, so he's gonna be back soon.

>Vesper thinking he is winning by taunting thumbnail
>His own audiences actually left him
Did he think he own the incel?

>>44109919
>Who is there left to filter?
There's always more people to filter until you're an unironic 0 view, anon.

>>44109952
>>44109803
You would fucking think they'd watch his streams to potentially hear him comment about the collab but nope. I guess I'm the only one who does that.

>>44109544
That would be weird considering that he was talking about filing taxes in October for that tax year

>>44109913
cope homobeggar

>>44109803
>>44109926
It’s so funny how everyone saw this coming since his debut. Before Holostar he also do this, just chatting and chatting until he become 100% creatively brankrupt and start recline into oblivion. History is repeating itself

>>44109919
>even I don't understand how the fuck they keep reclining after every girl collab
For fuck sake, how hard it is to understand
1) The Tempus audience is an insular one, cultivate through those "one hour a pop then move to the next stream" days in their collab ban days
2) The MILLISECOND the collab ban ended, he ditched his gen mates and started trying to mingle with the girls
3) He got suspended for something that is now suspected to have relation to his own gen mates
4) He ghosted them unceremoniously citing "need to recharge social batteries" and then came back to collab with girls twice (Ollie and Mori)
is it that hard to understand why the original Tempus audience that is still loyal to Magni (for instance) bailed on him?

>>44109913
Chill dude, i seriously jwu and noticed about this

>>44110019
>they can still file more copyright strikes once that one times out
wait for it, its not over yet

>>44109953
Guy is from the anti-woke group of Youtubers that originated back in 2016/2017. If one of these guys covers it you can bet more will start showing up to cover the news.

You just know at some point Vesper will resent Gavis. This is the fate of Menhera male..

>>44110090
Anon, see >>44110122, they're not bailing on him because he suck. That's not how Holo and Stars roll, sucking is not enough for a captive fandom to bail.

>>44110021
He can’t even own the girls, and even among Tempus he ain’t hotshit anymore, Magni are more consistent as far as ccv goes and Bettle BTFO him with his big SC numbers

the anon ponintg out about luxiem debut merch being is best seller made me check the niji store
And didnt realize that acrylics could be sold out and other items could sellout. Could we get the numebr of merch based on this?

only shu sold out on this one for example.
https://nijisanji-store.com/collections/all/products/luxiem-1st-anniversary-acrylic-stand?variant=42272150061251

>>44109953
> Also whatever happened to the niji dramatuber thing?
Niji flinched since they realised that they had a big overlap with the dramatuber fans and nijien fans
Also didnt help that by using the Copyright abuse move they gave the people a reason to side with the retarded dramatubers more

>>44109780
Everything about the thumbnail and the title is open hostility to his haters. I'd imagine a fair amount of his normal viewers have no interest in that. This is how you slowly lose the people who do like to watch you.

>>44110050
So there were, what, holofags who hate homo x holo collabs and thought?
>i bet that one was Vesper's last!
Then they saw the one yesterday and bailed? I don't andastand.

At this point Vesper will be a 3 view who still somehow manages to buff a holo x homo collab.

>>44110019
Actually pathetic. Imagine starting a fight and then losing to the absolute lowest runt of the dramatuber community

>>44110141
>herohei

>>44109953
niji ended up bending the knee and the dramafags won

EN3 is closer than you think

>TOP KEK
Look who jumped right in to try to defend the trannies?
>I honestly don’t believe it’s entirely due to the Hogwarts harassment at all. It could play a small part but we’ll probably never know

>>44110219
no he could still filter out more and more of his audience which at this point is 90% tourists and unityfags
each collab will make him lose more and more

>>44109866
No, being an obnoxious numberfag is a stigma
Plenty of holo JP numberfag and don't get blowback except from antis
There are so many little obvious things that Gura could do to help her numbers, but she just doesn't care

>another en corpo dies

>>44109952
It was the sisters who came up with yabadabadoo in the first place. You can see sisters posting stuff like this >>44079165

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>3/1 DAILY TALLY
18,696: Mori (Hololive)
8,877: Mysta (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Mori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: Mori
3p: Mysta

>>44110052
Why give him the view? It's better to just ignore the faggot.

>>44110196
theres nothing about stocks, so no

>>44109803
The homos have to figure by now that the mixed gender collabs don't help them at all. Well, the ones that aren't sex pests anyway.

>>44110181
I hope he won’t, every time I remember that it is a 40 year old man who is doing all this I lost some respect for him, even if he does bring the numbers

Ready for another sub 5k stream from shitrys

>>44110344
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
40x: Hololive
18x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
8x: Mori
6x: Amelia
5x: Mumei, Baelz
4x: Ina, IRyS
3x: Mysta, Fauna
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Gura
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Kiara

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
49p: Mumei
48p: Mori
46p: Ina
43p: Amelia
41p: Fauna
40p: Baelz
38p: IRyS
27p: Mysta
26p: Vox
18p: Kiara
17p: Kronii
16p: Luca
13p: Selen
10p: Pomu, Gura
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana, Uki
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Rosemi
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria

>>44110181
maybe he should have stayed in his lane and not ghost the rest of tempiss, and he wouldn't be having these problem. Gavis smarten up and know that become a collab accessory for the the whoretastic trio isn't the way to go

>>44109866
> “Caring about number” is a stigma
"Caring about numbers" is caring about your audience. If whatever you are doing is turning away the audience CLEARLY there is a problem with it, and the audience feedback is not to complain but to politely stop watching your streams.
**Not caring about numbers** is the ultimate spite for the audience
>watch whatever I do or GTFO, I don't care if you like it or not

>>44110278
Anycolor, you cowards. You should have crushed this worm, but now you've been exposed as a goddamn paper tiger.

>>44110278
kek im glad i never gave a fuck about his situation

>>44110345
???????
I'm saying out of the 18k people who watched the stream yesterday you would think at least a few would want to see his take on the collab that happened. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>44110402
KFPseethe

Bettel might be the SC star of his gen, but Tempus 2 as a whole is performing sooo bad on subs, their sub growth rate is so grim
They are not attracting new audiences, milking the existing one might work for shot term but they dont have infinite money or dedication

>>44110278
But he got a point? We literally just have this discussion last thread that the Hogwart stuffs wasn’t 100% the reason, it was simply the last straw
It would be really dumb if harassment over a game alone caused a graduation

>>44110456
anycolor was retarded in the ay they handled the dramafags
they found a way to have people defend the dramfags instead of them dunking on them

>>44110461
What "take" dude it's fucking monopoly. Do tourists tune into Kiara streams to get her take on playing Mario Party with the IDs?

>It's all pikamee and homo posting.
Go back, sisters.

>>44110181
Vesper thought he was owning the male incel on Holo fanbase, turnout he is pushing out his own female audiences.
He used to has his own box. Now the box is gone and Homobox doesn't want to watch him anymore

>>44110490
You're the trannoid from the last thread?

>>44110432
Don't make gross simplifications like this, anon. Who, in the first place, is the audience?
Is it the membershrimp? Is it the grays who are holo box tourists? Is it the faggot spaming FORSEN LOL and COLLAB WITH SYKKUNO? Some audiences aren't worth caring about. Considering she retains the highest numbers in the EN sphere, thousands of members (we know 7.5k just from membership post likes), sells gangbuster merch that she has not filtered anyone who mattered. And unfortunately that still includes the retarded greyniggers.

Does someone have that reaction pic with riku getting unmasked

>>44110461
I'm saying those people didn't give a shit about him in the first place. So why would they watch afterward?

>>44110576
>his own female audiences
never had one, his fanbase is majorly old men and gay men

>>44109866
It's the entertainment industry, retard. You care about how your content is received or you don't, and if you don't you hurt your viability unless oil barons bankroll you.

>>44110489
>They are not attracting new audiences, milking the existing one might work for shot term but they dont have infinite money or dedication
Shhhh anon let them cope. Let them cope.
They're just 2 months in and the pattern with pretty much 99% of EN vtubers is "gross recline the more they continue streaming", with very few exceptions, and most of them (the NijiEN girls) being from "a new gen hit a goldmine" which let's be honest, isn't fucking happening for Tempus.

>>44110680
he shared the same paypigs with the rest of the stars

Thread really is full of sisters right now.

>>44110278
He has a point for this one. Pikame has been on hiatuus and actually missing for couple of months because depression. The Hogwarts thingy just a trigger to push her limit. It was a small push but has big impact

>>44109898
didn't anon just calculate last thread that only half of the tax would be accounted for if it was 50-50 split sc and only that?

NijiEN Gamers is going to btfo everyone in this thread. Just saying.

>>44110576
He still has a long way to fall and he still has some paypigs looking at his super chats rank.

>>44110490
>it was simply the last straw
This remind me of the copes during the pandemics
>DOH includes deaths of all persons who tested positive for COVID-19 in its totals, even if the victims died from other causes, such as gunshot wounds.
>“Our (DOH COVID-19) dashboard numbers do include any deaths to a person that has tested positive to COVID-19.”

She was a happy vtuber up until she got harassed. She got harassed. She went into a hiatus. She return and graduated.
>CAUSE OF GRADUATION?
THE FUCKING HARASSMENT!

>>44110761
your assuming its a 50-50 split and not lower

>>44110576
There is something wrong if that one Tempiss female oil baron even stop donating to him.

>>44110489
Two of the members just hit 100k and are catching up to uproar who been streaming for almost a year. So their actually doing pretty great for males it just most the girls ignore the new tempus bois unfortunately which leads to most people probally don't know they debuted and a part of hololive
besides hardcore fans.

>>44110238
Hero Hei is part of the anti-woke crowd but is primarily and anime adjacent drama grifter so it's no surprise when he covers news like this. Guys like Yellowflash though primarily focus on the general culture war so they go broader and cover more mainstream Western stuff news.

>>44110773
>sisters watching game streams, let alone eSports streams
Funniest joke 2023.

>>44110799
>She was a happy vtuber up until she got harassed.
Anon, I'm not sure if you were aware but she was on hiatus due to mental health issues. That Hogwarts stream would've been her return stream after a long time.

>>44110489
Honeymoon phase is like 3 months, but the significant decline appears 6 months in.
If they are good, then they'll get some buzzes, but /#/ ain't the place for midgets.

Everyday I see that new niji girl playing minecraft. Does she not sleep?

>>44110723
those are just Tempus fans, who are supporting every Tempus...

>>44110861
nijijps have said their sc cut is 30%, instead of 35%

so getting noticed (I'm saying noticed) by girls is numbers poison for the guys?

>>44110880
why are we comparing tempus 2 to stars jp instead onf tempus 1 noctyx or luxiem?

>>44110864
>Tempiss female oil baron
Qrd?
Actual oil baron or what?

>>44110646
this one?

>>44110626
>Who, in the first place, is the audience?
That's a dumb question to make when the topic is
>caring about numbers
After some time there is a baseline number of people that will catch your stream live. Sometimes it's 2k for a SC reading, sometimes it's 5k for a gaming stream or 12k for a variety stream.

If down the line the streamer, in the name of "doing it my way", starting seeing a drop in the numbers, clearly there is something wrong
>I used to get X for Minecraft, now I'm only getting x*0.85
>Maybe I should reassess and see if I changed something important
That's caring about the audience, and using the size of the audience to gauge their opinion because, unlike in regular commerce, people won't complain about the diminishing quality of your product, they'll just go away silently

>>44110948
from the look of things it might not be the case or only for a select few

>>44110489
They're growing faster than CouncilRyS.

>>44110880
...congratulations you're beating the runt gen of the runt branch
I'm in utter awe
This is like nijiniggers celebrating beating Sana in subs

>>44110968
Yes that's the one, thanks anontachi

>>44110944
curious how some of the usual paypigs slowe down or even stopped donating to him

>>44110914
Kaela is Holo ID anon

Tempus was a mistake and not releasing EN3 last year was an even bigger mistake.

>>44110755
See>>44110799
>>44110892
>she was on hiatus due to mental health issues. That Hogwarts stream would've been her return stream after a long time.
How is she graduating instead of returning NOT caused by the harassment?

That's dumb as fuck and anyone saying that is trying to give some exculpatory evidence to the people doing the harassment.
>that kid that killed himself after being humiliated publicly by a gang of bullies?
>It's not their fault, he was already depressed
That's how you retards sound

>>44110490
It's less the last straw and more like a punch in the camels jaw that caused it to topple over and die. Just because Pikamee was on her final leg before graduating doesn't mean the leg sweep was any less responsible.

>>44110963
Holostars JP used to have one female superchatter. Now she moved to Tempus where she donates to all Tempus members. The girl now only stop donating to Vesper

>>44111137
its just society's fault you see

>>44111125
I know who Kaela is Anon, I'm talking about the new niji jp girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhgN1tWS5uw

>>44110864
That's fucking grim

>>44111180
Arenai? Is that real or a rrat? Proof that she stopped donating to him?

>>44110947
It's best to ignore the other camps to reduce lore pollution rate, and build your own walled garden
Hardcore fans get filtered out bits by bits, and the tourist conversation rate is too low to counter the reclining floor

>pikamee thread unstickied already
lmao get ready

>>44111243
Her name is Toru. Remember it.

>>44111180
Huh, now I kinda get why stars JP might resent tempus a bit

>>44111269
Walled Garden doesn't work for holostars. They should be mingling, but not with HoloEN.

>>44111290
alphabet people win again

>>44111267
She is one person bro, you can easily check if it’s real

>>44111130
More Tempus? No problem!

>>44111042
Because their subs are comparatively low as fuck and they're tapping an audience that is already here.

>>44111357
in yagoo we trust

JP7 and EN3 are the same gen.

>>44111042
Dumb newfag

Thoughts

>>44111388
Anon you missed the joke.

>>44111042
>>44111388
I just checked and they have IRyS tier growth which is bad for a gen so new.
They are absolutely not growing faster than the rest of Council

>>44111137
NTAs. We're not in court, retard. It was probably the last straw, but if it wasn't this it would have been something else.

HoloJP is just 10 days away from their longest gap record between gens. JP7 soon?

>>44111269
anon it's the same concept the redpiller preach, woman don't respect man that are lesser, they just get friendzone or stay in her orbit, in this instance they become sidekick for the girls to get clips

>>44111489
numbers?

>>44111491
How is Hakka keeping up with Bettel? I am less surprised he is at 100k, more surprised how Bettel is only 1k ahead

>>44111563
Sooner than EN3.

>>44111563
My rrat they are following EN path which mean no JP7 this year. Instead we will got another homo JP

>>44111563
Has it really been that long since Gen 6? wtf

>>44109846
I'll never understand globalfags. Why come here if you're just going to make a reddit colony anyway

>>44108855
I don't feel anything because their top talent Yuko is still a Gura clone anon.
My whole point was that if you consider something a mistake that means you believe they shouldn't have done it
So WHAT then do you think they should have done instead? Keep in mind again, that their top talent Yuko is literally a gura clone. Explain what you think jewcorp should ave done differently. Not hire her? They still need new talents regardless.
When we had this discussion previously you basically offered no point other than "jewcorp should never hire anyone because they'll always be destined to fail" which is a retarded argument to make when looking at the situation from the perspective of the company

I want a simple answer from you anon, if you think hiring this chick, WHAT do you think jew corp should have done instead? Can you actually conceive of someone who would do better? And NOT hiring anyone new is not an answer. If you're answer is "never hire anyone like Gura" that is ALSO retarded because their top talent is a Gura clone

>>44111125
He means Toru which she is still live play minecraft right now along with Ela

>vesper 2k

>>44111327
If you can't get recurring customers, then the issue is with the products ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>44111563
Mixed JP gen next.
T.future anon

>>44111686
>another uproar
after their resounding success, uproar 2 will be even bigger

>>44111563
They'll probably be announced at holofes and debut in this order JP7>ID4>EN3 with 3 month interval between debuts.

>>44111563
Looks like StarsJP is due for another wave

>>44111743
nta but not hiring another gura clone since you already have a gura clone would have been the smarter move
should have instead focused on their original branch more

>>44110947
>so getting noticed (I'm saying noticed) by girls is numbers poison for the guys?
That's not it otherwise Roberu wouldn't have succeeded, Kamito wouldn't be one of the most popular notVtubers in JP and half of the higher echelon of Nijisanji wouldn't have succeeded.

Tempus has a more structural problem: they were born with a "borrowed" audience made of the Hololive EN fanbase willing to give them a chance and the EOP Holostars JP fanbase finally getting catered to with a branch for themselves.
Tempus didn't have to do ANYTHING to get that audience, it came baked in with their debut in the same company of the most sucessful branch of english speaking vtubers in the world bar none.
For fuck sake, the people "outside the garden" tried early on to destroy them on the quality of their models, only for a ragtag bunch of shitposters and memesters to lift them up to the highest heaven with the whole "magging" thing.

Here is a counterfactual Tempus history
>Magni collabs with Mori
>Vesper collabs with Bae in that "Boomer vs. Zoomer" stream
both sucessful collabs. Then
>Vesper organizes the first DnD collab in the branch and it's so sucessful even Fubuki was watching
THEN, here is where history changes
>Vesper takes VERY SERIOUSLY his role as GM and runs a very successful campaign, building up the branch creed as a bunch of lovable dorky lads
>They build up in that synergy and continue with their group gaming sessions: EDF, horror games, FPS and the likes
>At the same time each takes very good care of their female fanbase in their zatsus, member streams and "specialty" stream

They could have done that and at very least not fail as miserably as they did now.
As it is, they're very close to fall below both a very debilitated Luxiem and Noctyx too, with the bottom ones already under or close to 1k and trailing even fucking Doppio Whatshisname.

Long story short: the problem is not just that Magni and Vesper and Axel and Regis made their identity to be this or that girl accessory, it is that they didn't do anything else to foster either individual strength or even collective

>>44111423
That would be an interesting thing that Hololive fans would enjoy and might be a great success, so it can't happen anymore.

>>44111680
hakka is nice, he isnt as funny as bettel but needs something to standout besides his music.

>>44111843
>EN3 in December
Fuck you.

>>44111680
spics

>>44111563
Yes. Announcement at expo

>>44111843
You mean
JP7> ID4> Tempus 3?

>>44111563
It feels like cover is winding up for another Gen5-Myth punch with EN/JP sister gens.

>>44111751
he is 2k for while that why schizo shitposting stopped

>>44111773
Yagoo funeral 1M CCV
t. Also future anon

>>44111925
Get roberu to collab with a holojp. He will either leech or die from antis.

>>44111925
>They could have done that
they did but the vesper jap arc ruined a lot of the unity
the 4 streams in one pov for pokemon was great and was probably the last one good tempus collab.

>>44111423
International Gen 1

>>44112031
While what happened to gen 5 when Myth debut was unfortunate I can see this happening. Cover probably want EN-JP to connect more and doing sister gen is one way to do it

>>44111686
Briliant! Yagoo will give you a promotion if you were Cover employee

FEBRUARY VIEW/TIME RANKINGS

See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks.
>If you want a quick summary, there is a lot of fluctuation inside the categories this month, but in general most categories remained stable or at a decline.

>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.
>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels). Or see this <span class="deadlink">>>17329929 for mori-mousey split pov numbers.</span>

>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.
>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.
>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I just don`t rank those anymore, since people are too dumb.
>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.

>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.
>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.

>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or deleted were not included for the calculations.
>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 31-01-23 to 28-02-23 (~1pm jst).

>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).
>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.
>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.

>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list. And im getting tired of adding all the new debuting midgets.
>I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.
>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.
>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either.
>If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard.

>I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic.
>i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored.

>do not repost cutouts of this without the full source.

>i will reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic

>>44112031
i really hope that is the case

>>44111925
weren't they baking a podcast or something like that?

>>44111925
Didn't read it all but Roberu doesn't have the normal fujoshit audience

>>44112156
>watch time

>>44112156
me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess. As usual the 0h and 1h were filled with events and special streams.
Here again, Isegye are acting out. Last month there were 2 of them who were deleting all their vods, and now the other 4 also joined in on it, deleting all vods from after ~6th february onwards. So far, only vo_ine has started uploading the vods on her youtube channel (they are not doing too good), while nothing from all the rest of them. If they don’t fix whatever problem that is they will no longer appear on the ranks due to not having vods anywhere to check.
As for other big new growing krs (from stellive), airikanna_stellive had some 4 vods on twitch and ayatsunoyuni_stellive had started having her vods available on twitch from february 8th. And then, a few days after i wrote this, both ayatsunoyuni and airikanna got temp banned on twitch, and all vods are deleted again.
I dont know what the fuck goes on with KR vtubers.

As things of interest:
- mio had her best position in a year
- kizuku had his best position in a year
- yuni a had his best position in a year
- kanna a had his best position in a year
- choco had her best position in a year
- ema a had her best position ever not counting their debut month
- risu had her best position in a year

>>44112031
Considering how Lamy said she developed a mental illness from that, they probably aren't going to do this again.

>>44111743
>clone
cheap imitation

>>44112156
>views / time
Kek the meme king is back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hv3lcMXqIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hv3lcMXqIE
GOLD

>>44109804
Wong as been trying to get new identity please understand

>>44112156
>>44112265
>vod views over time
literally the most useless metric
might as well measure b2 imaginary numbers

>>44111953
The anger in your heart is because you know this jork is a very real possibility. EN just keeps getting the short end of the stick for "reasons".

>>44111743
Kek, upset are we? Yes, they should've hired somebody else. Do I have someone in mind? No, I'm not a VTuber recruiter, I just saying that trying the same old formula is not a guarantee for success and locking themselves into that narrow view is a mistake. Rather, in this case the hubris of believing that she would do well simply due to
>gura clone
>decent sized following
while not taking into account her actual strengths as a content creator was proven to be entirely incorrect. Even I fell victim to it since I assumed she might pick up some of the LATAM market who also spoke English, a segment that she was quite popular with previously. I could not confidently state that hiring her was a clear mistake at the time of the previous discussion, keep in mind I had only stated that keeping their criteria more open could've yielded more success and that her performance was not out of the ordinary for someone with her fanbase size, but now it is clear that it was a mistake since she is grossly underperforming.

>>44112264
I mean, wasn’t Lamy and Nene also went menhera when HoloX debut? Granted it was more because of shitposter SCing that they will leave them for the new girls for some reasons

>>44111925
Here is more on that. Tempus 2 absolutely RUINED any chance they had to build their own audience, because their nice is small enough that an eight man overlap will necessarily split their audience.
Here is a comparison between Holostars EN and Holostars JP.
The former still outrank the later (minus Roberu, a fucking monster) but the distance between the bottom of the EN branch and the top of the JP branch (minus Roberu) was never this close.

>971: Axel
>874: Shinri
>817: Flayon
>681: Oga
>674: Shien
>589: Astel

They're one good APEX season for Astel from falling below not one but TWO Holostars.
If that is not a FUCKING FIVE ALARM FIRE for the branch nothing else will ever be.

>>44112031
One GGN sister in JP7, the other in EN3

Fucking trannies handwringing and doing damage control. Go back.

>>44111743
kek
do your own homework, jew

>>44112264
Lamy is a dumb jap bitch who cares too much about numbers and this time around EN will actually be the runts so they can properly, correctly be prepped before debut with "a JP gen will debut around the same time. JPs have massively more numbers, they're not your market".

>>44112156
>>44112265
Cool, didn't read all your text again. Also who the fuck are the new gooks ?

>>44112350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEXvOhYNrPU
*blocks your path*

If the chuuba is below the IRyS line, they shall not be discussed in here.

>Pikamee graduating
>Zaion graduating
Which Holo is graduating to square things up

>>44112350
>gold
Vox returns tomorrow, and since he said it's "at the usual time," that means CN.

>>44112457
>>44112350
myst is playing miku again today.
Also wasnt vox suppose dot return today?

>>44112265
>Gura has one (1) stream in the past 3 months
>Rank 1 in Feb
Nice meme chart faggot

>>44112264
Lamy was always mentally ill so her opinion doesn't matter unironically
Actually why is all of gokisei mentally ill?

>>44112469
>Zain graduating
proof?

Tundrakek status?

>>44112496
Vox is overlapping Gura 3D with his return for some reason. They don't really share viewers so I don't think it'll matter.

>>44112469
gura miko or pekora

>>44112218
>>44112275
>>44112360
>>44112520
hey one time you'll get it right, fucking retard

>>44111267
>>44111355
Who'd have guessed she was one of our shitposters.

>>44112390
Winning Son was quite a prophetic nickname.

>>44112264
EN3 will almost certainly flop though. Myth poisoned the well for future gens incredibly well

>>44112390
ROBERU I KNEEL

Collab numbers and chat comparison

>>44112521
Myth debuting and Aloe early graduation ruined them
It took a lot of Cover handholding for them to be able to recover, but obviously they still fear new kouhais

>>44112587
>Myth poisoned the well for future gens incredibly well
same could be said with jp gen 1 and 2 anon

>>44112539
nta there is no proof. But people are starting to wonder. This is a really long suspension.

>>44111491
Work on your delivery reps.

>>44112380
Was it just antis? I don't know why their actual fans would say that?

>>44112600
are they all shrinking

>>44112648
I'll admit I should have included the image in my first post. Would have made it very easy to catch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYutA8gUu-E
>637 waiting
>30 hours to go
sugoi

>>44112722
You can't tell sometimes, people are fickle.

>>44112636
Not really. 1 month suspension are not unheard of. If she doesn't return after month... She's gone.

>>44112722
Like I said, shitposters, but that was enough to make them go menhera. Pekora had to come out of her way to talk about it

>>44112587
myth has mori, ame and kiara debuffs. It wouldnt be impossible to beat them on avg

>>44110278
News channel just trying to be neutral

>>44112520
Gura had 2
Laplus had 1
All their streams were practically events
They get big views for their durations
Wow what a surprise

>>44112772
Who is she going up against? Chinman’s tourney?

>>44112563
Vox counts for the 2nd, Gura for the 3rd.

>>44109866
I could name like 15 top EN streamers who have numberfagging as a personality trait lmao. Someone like Gura is the anomaly in the EN world, not the standard. You clearly don't know what you're talking about

>>44112772
Not relevant anon, its just chumbies treating it like a group chat.
Seriously guys, curb your expectations, this might do worse than Ina's cause timeslot+overused 3d debuffs. Then again there's the "rare Gura stream" buff.

>>44112780
When did it start? It feels like longer than a month to me for some reason but that may be cause there hasn't been much going on.

>>44112581
>Shitposters
The sisters were the first people to get mad at Vesper ghosting his mates. Coping Vesties just pretended it was all shitposters but those only came in later after non-Tempus watchers found out about it

>>44112454
>new gooks
stellarlive? some anon was saying they are a new korean group who is directly siphoning from isegye

>>44112563
unless voxx streams at midnight it counts for today

>>44112848
The weakest Nornis' 3D debut.

>>44112156
Gura sisters we won! Arbitrarily taking the ratio of views to vod time shows she's the best vtuber ever! Please ignore the fact her numbers fucking suck otherwise and she never streams!

>>44112844
>All their streams were practically events
That's the point. These numbers don't provide any useful information, thus are worthless

>>44112772
>sugoi
grim.

>>44112882
Completed 3 weeks just today.

>>44112265
the compressed list is too long.
Keep it at top 20 or top 25 max.
Seeing the decline of Salami is a delight.
She doesn't even chart anymore this month

>>44112882
8th February

>>44112921
Seething tranny hands wrote this.

so is Nene doing anything special for her birthday or not??

>>44112984
Trannies are HoloENs biggest fanbase though

VOX GOLD BABY

>>44112921

>>44112156
>>44112265
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, the
>Gura cope tally
is back.
That's dumb as fuck
>pic related
How come a streamer that had over FIVE MILLION VIEWS in a period get second place vs. a streamer that had under 1.3M views in the same period when the metric being used is VOD Views?

This chart is dumb and I will never stop calling it dumb every month it gets posted

>>44112882
She's got 7 days left plus a few extra if they suspended her for a flat 30 or 31 days. Either way they really fucked her growth if she doesn't ended up terminated.

>>44113002
https://www.youtube.com/live/TAa0PofEMjs?feature=share

>>44112984
nah that looks like hotwheels

>>44112921
>Gura sisters
Never put those 2 words together again.

All trannies deserve death

>>44113025
stop living in the past of an alternative universe

>>44112156
right thread King dont let these guys tell you otherwise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUvvoHMH7ps
>the first one from many to come

>>44113096
Why? Chumbuds and Sisters are basically the same thing. Half the thread is shit up by the eternal spic schizo seething at "last samurai" for pointing out EN and Gura are in recline (because they're shit at their jobs)

>>44112156
Thanks for the numbers, ignore the seething retards

>>44112921
i don't see many gura sisters here >>44112600

>>44112600
>Die Calliope

>>44113096
Guratomos
Guragoons
Gurabuds
Guradachis
Guramates
Guradets
Guraventurers
Guranation
Guramites
Guraguards

>>44113044
makes perfect sense looking at that pic, you just don't understand the metric

>>44112156
Keep up the god work, chart-anon

>>44109839
Either tax evading or black company

>>44111489
Owl Cute

who is hotwheels?

>>44113287
The problem is that it's not taking into account that Gura puts out virtually no content. Marine getting millions of views on many VODs is much more impressive than Gura getting 750k on one stream in the past few months

>>44113172
>Half the thread is shit up by the eternal spic schizo seething at "last samurai" for pointing out EN and Gura are in recline (because they're shit at their jobs)
Are you lost, anon? This ain't JP hours where you retards let 1 (one) fucking schizo milk you dry of (you)s cause you can't fucking help yourself from replying to obvious bait.

EN hours start soon numberbros. Fauna frame up

>>44112587
>I-IS THAT A NEW HOLOEN GEN??
>MY DOODS, JUST TAKE IT EASY

>>44113188
You know, it's funny how even with the relatively tourist heavy public streams Gura has had the overlap is still relatively small. The Gurabox has basically picked a side hasn't it.

>>44113239
Gurayomis
Gurasagis
Gurap's
Guramin
Guracrew

>>44113071
oh nice also embed
https://www.youtube.com/live/TAa0PofEMjs?feature=share

>>44113131
Unironically starts off with
>I really don't want to make this video

>>44113377
Why are you samefagging?

>>44113287
I'm a chumbud and I think it's a stupid ass metric. I don't understand the obsession some fanbases have about the chuba being nr 1. To begin with if your'e a chumbie and have to cope that she's nr 1 in vods or merch or whatever you've already been brow beaten by /#/ to pretend subs don't matter and given up your oshi's real feats.

>>44113287
>you just don't understand the metric
I understand the metric PERFECTLY.

First: take each VOD
Second: Penalize every extra hour after the first so long VODs won't get an advantage
Third: make it an average so people with more streams won't get an advantage

The whole metric was carefully designed to benefit streamers with fewer streams and with a large number of VOD views in short streams.
That's why it's called the
>Gura cope tally

>>44113423
>embed
meant this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAa0PofEMjs

>>44113401
There's also the fact that she hasn't streamed much so there's not much chat data for her right now.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e-xDAvCx32Y
Biden prefers Elira, Trump Pomu and Obama likes Finana.
This is among the few Niji videos I've seen that's part of an active big meme.

>>44113367
>who is hotwheels

>>44112600
Wtf why are Chumbuds that low when they have the biggest fanbase. Fucking shark bitch really is killing the Bois by not even mentioning.

>>44113401
No Gura streams lately and Chumbuds have always been notorious for just being Gura watchers.

OH NO NO NO NO
>HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!
This is no longer his lowest Zatsu on record!
>only the 6th
And he did it natty, by himself, unassisted!
>KNEEL?

>pikamee thread gets unsticky'd
>gura schizo starts shitting up the thread
Merely coincidence, amirite?

>>44113503
>No one asked
>Nijinog shills his own video

Do nijiggers really?

>>44113558
ah that guy lol

>>44113694
nijibeggars are shameless

>>44112899
Whenever they stream, the Isegye numbers stay the same and vice versa.
There doesn't seem to be any relevant overlap between their audience, despite similar content.
They carried over from YT and even though they were 3views there, the switch did cause some attention and new viewers came in because of it.

>I am obligated to mention that all Twitch streams have a chance of being botted at least a bit.

>>44113558
This never fails to get a laugh from me.

>>44113477
sounds like you're the one coping and seething about it
i personally enojy seeing you frothing from the mouth every month when this gets posted, it's great

>>44113673
Clearly the demand for tempiss3 is at an all time high

>>44113673
they finally raided him, so... his isolation arc finally ended

>>44109416
who raided that faggot, bettel?

>>44113741
I'm happy to oblige

>>44113501
She still streamed to 30k and 49k viewers respectively. Those are hugely tourist heavy streams. Doesn't matter that she hasn't streamed lately, objectively speaking a minority of those people, let's assume 100% overlap between the two streams (which is a false assumption) so a minority of the 49k viewers, actually watched the homostream assuming similar rates of commenters vs lurkers, despite at least 50% of the viewers being tourists.

>>44113694
>Le meme videos that don’t result in increase of fanbase
Anyways if they want to measure that then Filian mags the shit out of everyone

>>44113763
at your service ma'am

>>44113673
Damn, got his ass saved by the same people he refuses to aknowledge out of fear they are going to steal his already meager viewership. What a cuck.

>>44113778
The site is there for everyone to use. Why ask

>>43962034
that looks like the Tite Kubo face.

So this is Fauna's 15th Skyrim stream.
Her lowest ccv among them was the 2nd at just over 5k. Highest was the first just under 10k.
Recent hover mid 6k.

>>44113817
>so a minority of the 49k viewers
Anon, chatters, not viewers. Only a small portion of viewers use the chat. And not having many streams over time definitely has an impact because the more streams you have the more exposure you have to various groups that can't show up for certain streams. 45k people showing up to one stream means nothing

>>44113817
The first collab she had no stream data so doesnt show up but showed up in one with ame

Fuck Cover for giving Gura the worst slot for ther showcase. All others get to enjoy a Friday/Saturday which is a weekend for the rest of the world so they can stay up / watch it

But not Gura, she gets a Thursday, which is Friday for many

>>44113477
Pekora has won more times in the last year though and the majority of guras wins were from when she streamed the most

>>44113673
Wait was it 2 raids? Theres a smaller bump before the bigger one

>>44113850
>he refuses to aknowledge out of fear
they play off stream together

https://youtu.be/tf6jJAXRiw4
https://youtu.be/xC2onvI8dhw

I don't know why he keeps isolating himself maybe some kind of show he can be a solo streamer without becoming a NijiEN wannabe

>>44111843
Anon after holofes there legit no time for a debut due to both uproar, Holo ID 3 anniversary, Fauna has her birthday. On the 31 there a big stars concert.

>>44113910
Ame decided to overlap, will be interesting to see the peaks

>>44113824
>Fillian
damn shame she became irrelevant the moment susan kneecapped her like with that other one punkasomething

>>44114007
rio from starsJP was one the other probably shinri

>>44114046
>I don't know why he keeps isolating himself
That's the thing tho, he isn't, you just need a woman to send the invite and suddenly he is right as rain

>>44113673
>Only the 6th
Doesn’t sound very confident now does you?

>>44110181
Good, hopefully he'll fuck up again and will get unceremoniously terminated

>>44110190
his zatsus reclined below 3K level just before the suspension already (that temporarily boosted his numbers, might be why he's trying to create even more drama now) he wasn't full menhera at that time, just boring.

>>44113965
I want to fuck Gura instead

>>44114278
I want to watch Gura fuck Fauna instead

>>44113673
cry more kek

>>44113965
I really can't muster any explanation other than management hates her.

>>44113673
he still fucked your oshi

>>44113993
It doesn't make it less dumb. Also
>Gura
>streamed the most

Here are the number of public Gura streams in her channel since 2022
2022-01: 22 streams
2022-02: 11 streams
2022-03: 11 streams
2022-04: 12 streams
2022-05: 11 streams
2022-06: 13 streams
2022-07: 9 streams
2022-08: 8 streams
2022-09: 9 streams
2022-10: 15 streams
2022-11: 5 streams
2022-12: 4 streams
2023-01: 0 streams
2023-02: 2 streams

I don't know what happened to her in Feb 2022 but she absolutely took the foot off the gas

>>44113673
homotubing is saved

>>44114312
This but Fauna fuck Gura instead

>>44114069
Shes still one of the biggest twitch indies

>>44114319
>>44114369
Go back discordkun

>>44114369
Based Flinstone Oji

>>44114399
whats her ccv?

>>44114373
I remember I coped saying "it's because of Holofes! It'll go back to normal after!" And then it just never got better and I moved on to Fauna. No hate for Gura though.

>>44114232
shitpost aside, he keeps isolating himself with the rest of temus despide they play together off stream which it is really weird

>>44114373
she's mentioned some chronic illness

>>44114454
5k or so which places her in the top like 10 of EN twitch vtubers basically

>>44114373
illness and management telling them to stream less like with kaela

>>44113965
She's still going to mog the washed up brapper don't worry.

>>44114481
>she's mentioned some chronic illness
Ironmouse is a fucking bubble girl, that can't be just it.

>>44114373
Over a full year of being management’s goodie two shoes puppet only for them not to give her anything and try to destroy Hololive En. Doesn’t matter she already knows now she doesn’t have to bend the knee anymore and she can get away without streaming

>>44114382
This but i club Fauna with a bat while i fuck Gura

>>44113398
>EN3 hates Mori and wants nothing to do with her
I can dream can't I

>>44114069
Damn you aren't wrong, barely 5 million in February with around the same number of videos.

>>44114577
any source for those numbers?

>>44114577
>5k
actually recline to 4k and 3k

>>44114678
Nevermind she reclined shes like 4k now for most her streams
https://twitchtracker.com/filian/streams

>>44114610
>and management telling them to stream less like with kaela
Mate, Kaela had 38 streams in Feb 2023, while Koyori had 53. Kaela problem is not number of streams but stream length.

chumcucks

>>44114577
Nah top 10 would be 8 gooks + veibae and ironlung. She's probably top 20 along with neurosama

>>44114737
also leeching from the AI chuuba last I've seen

>>44114373
>Found out about StarsEN in Feb 2022
She became cynical of Hololive at the moment she learned they were gonna push HoloPro. And no, I won’t take my meds!

>>44114649
I mean management themselves is content with Gura being just a mascot anyway. As far as number go, I think chumbud can just give up stream numbers, she isn’t suddenly going to stream a lot again
At least whenever she does she get good VOD view and she have the 4m subs. That is enough for us numberfags

>>44114779
>EN

>>44114642
do your reps

>>44114373
She streamed the most in her first year which is also where the majority of her "wins" are

>pre-emptive seethe about Gura

>>44114769
More like chumpedos. All pedo pandering Vtubers should follow pikamee’s example and graduate

>>44111563
Still hope EN3 beats StarsJP record for holopro record. Stars doesn't deserve to hold any kind of record.

>>44093199
they could be deleted even if they weren't monitored.

>>44114858
There was no "view / time" cope tally in 2020, this anon hijacked that tally after VNUMA died and turned it from a
>median of peaks
into a
>gura cope tally
mid 2021 or early 2022

>>44114671
Vtubers are pedos, let's cut her another 75% views next month

>>44114763
anon management told her to take a chill pill when it comes to streaming
management is notorious for telling girls not to focus on their streaming career like with the advice they gave mumei and haachama
although its not surprising since cover is not a streaming comapny in the first place

>>44114642

>>44114481
Chronic illness is lack of deep dicking by her bf

>>44114833
Ah so there is a twitch cripple rank too now..

>>44114476
>shitpost aside
He's doing a 1 on 1 interview with the clown this week (and the rest as well later)

>>44114914
oh niji intern your back
most of the deleted tweets were the ones that were pretty vocal about the company\

>>44114902
Nah that record the homos deserve 100%

>>44115076
>Chooses the one with the biggest ccv and SCs
Sasuga male mori

>>44114769
more like cuckcucks

Gura 3D > 70k
any takers???

>>44112031
That is a horrible idea and would just lead to a repeat of gen5 getting shafted, except maybe this time EN gets fucked.

>>44114902
StarsEN will still hold the record for most suspensions due to internal disputes

Seeing the absolute state of Uproar (almost) a year later, do you think Cover will keep pushing new starsJP gens?

>>44115181
30k

>>44115181
Wow such a risky prediction anon!!
You sure about this??

>>44115181
You don't think she'll beat Moona, anon?

>>44115246
with that timeslot and day
nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nPqjkQzFao
1.7M DORYA

>>44115154
It's debut order. Red homo next and so on.

>>44115188
Truth is that myth didn't make a big impact on gen5 desu. And now it's even less, en audience won't regularly watch new jps and same goes for the inverse

>>44115059
Korean twitch and English twitch are so far removed from eachother as communties its would be like trying to compare vtubers to facecam streamers.

>>44115215
The only reason they delayed uproar was because starsJP asked them to since they had more foresight than Cover

>>44114896
It's gonna be 48 hours of baits and seeth no matter how things end up going. This place was pretty unusable during her return stream.

>>44114902
Nah. I truly believe EN3 took so long was to wait and debut them with JP7 as a group. So soonish in the next 100 days.

>>44114896
Wait until she gets mogged by the Niji 3D.

>>44115181
Yes.
>>44115246
No.

>>44114978
>cover is not a streaming comapny in the first place
You are correct about that but that doesn’t explain everything about Gura because her non streaming output took that same dive.

>>44114345
>I really can't muster any explanation other than management hates her.
Strongest soldier, toughest battles.
Think of it like this: who can take the hit? Can you see poor chicken handling a thursday time slot?
People will shitpost about her "low" numbers even if they're the highest ones in EN anyway. They already got that Moona 89k screenshot prepared (ignoring her 3d live beating it and that being as 3d debut as possible).

It should have been Mori though who ate the thursday debuff. Mori had so much 3d shit she doesn't even care, and she wasted half the thing shilling boogie voxx so what the fuck cover

>>44115348
So what’s the point of doing that if you think they won’t affect each other?

>>44115396
Will EN3 make it to the 600day milestone

>>44115466
Gura doesn't seem to be that exited about it either if her last member stream is anything to go by. She is of course looking forward to it, but she also realizes people have already seen her 3D a shit ton of times. She even brought the Okayu concert up.

>>44115373
Her stream is only 30 hours out, no need to be that worried. There might be some shitposting when the Nornis girl has her 3D debut, but that'll be short-lived and they'll quickly switch over to post about Ame, since they'll only have half a day until her stream starts.

>>44115246
Not with that timeslot

>>44115518
We just have to wait and see anon. If Cover was smart they will at the very least have teaser trailers during or after Holofes to maximize exposure.

>>44115483
Debuts, clips, subs etc will be enjoyed by both audiences, like it was with Myth/Gen5. CCV won't be affected in any way.

Dunno what Lamy sperged out about in 2020, shark tourists weren't stolen from her pool of viewers or anything.

>>44113965
Maybe something is happening Sunday, it’s weird how they left that day wide open. Doesn’t myth have an announcement after the gen concert?

>>44114671
I was telling that anon who was shilling her back in October or November her that she was gonna get fucked once susan starts implementing her shorts changes
some of the others who relied on shorts like oogway had the foresight the switch it up

>>44115466
>Strongest soldier, toughest battles
I hope that's your idea of a shitpost. "Let's deal the worst hand to our best talent" is genuinely commie shit.

>>44115568
Pffft Gura was just being humble and paranoid as usual. People will flood in cause it’s Gura big event, not because of the 3D itself

>>44115518
I wonder if Cover will acknowledge the wait whenever they do announce them, as they did in the 3D showcase trailer for myth. I sincerely doubt it, but I think it would have its place.

>>44114141
> 2 raids and still sub 2.5 k
They really are just nijien

>>44115670
Some people also theorized she was downplaying it in her own mind to avoid nervousness which I think rings true as well, if she can convince herself it's not a huge deal she can try to limit her own performance anxiety

>>44115631
>Doesn’t myth have an announcement after the gen concert?
This is news to me, unless its the merch or something.

>>44115618
Because Gen 5 got showed up hard by Myth right after they lost a member (and had been waiting to debut since March).

>>44115662
NTA, but HOLY retard.

>>44115618
You don’t understand my question, then why debut 2 gens at the same time in the first place?

>>44115454
>that doesn’t explain everything about Gura because her non streaming output took that same dive.
>management is notorious for telling girls not to focus on their streaming career like with the advice they gave mumei and haachama