/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Indogs have a serious case of small dog syndrome.

What did we learn in the last thread?

Huh so Anycolor does take a big chunk out of their livers income huh. I mean people who are here arent gonna be surprised but with how little Mysta taxes are compared to anycolors earnings especially on the nijien branch it kinda paints it like that.

>>44102032
anycolor is ripping luxiem with their cuts

Well, can PC pick Zaion up?

>>44102065
>>44102082
Has someone who is familiar with that particular countrys tax laws managed to calculate how much he is making?

Looks like graduation among us is on the menu for march

3 guesses as to what channel this is.

>>44101711
>Without that extra boost, Hololive would still be behind Niji instead of nearly at the same level as them within Japan (and higher in the male demographics)
Expect the great EOP surge happened when Marine and Pekora were already consistent 25k streams.

>>44102113
>Shes definitely going Yugo's route

>>44102032
The mixed collab outrage was fake and propelled by nijiniggers to say HoloEN had a "yab"

>play block game for 200 hours a year
>play some FOTM games
>do a collab or 2 a month
>dance and sing twice a year
>do 2 ASMR streams a year
>commission wallpapers monthly
>collect your $500k
I don't know why more people don't apply to HoloJP/HoloEN. Cover could wave this offer in front of 95% of females that are vtubers or want to be vtubers and they'll accept.

>>44101663
>>44101723
Isn't that still like 150k quid a year? Not a small amount like what is implied

>>44102028
The day Yagoo disband their worthless branch is the day when Hololive incline to the moon

Luna has the most cannons on stream in vtuber history

I kinda wanna see Pikamee play the wizard game during her graduation tour. Should be big numbers

GRIM

>>44102187
Her lewds are too good and too few.

>>44102156
Who is that?

>>44102224
How do you know they didn't apply? Who knows how many people Cover rejects. What we do know is that the vast majority of early NijiEN's are Holo rejects.

>>44102224
looks like a tough job to me

Pikamee supported the cause with her self termination for wrong think. What did you guys do today to support the cause.

>>44102224
>I don't know why more people don't apply to HoloJP/HoloEN
Who's to say they don't? Nowadays I just assume that every other corpo/indie is a Holo reject.

>>44102224
There's no lack of applicants to either of the three branches. Why are people still thinking they're having trouble finding new talents?

march is going to be some long ass month for this board lmao

>>44102236
It is an excellent income for the average person. Seems paltry for a top EN vtuber.

>>44102323
One of the most criminally wasted corpo models, easily.

>>44102236
tis is from a channel that in his first year made 440k on SC ALONE.
without counting memebership and merch. it is small in the context that it should be far more what he should be taking home.

>>44102400
holofes will change things.

>>44102155
rough estimate is around 80k
would basically have 54k after

>>44102356
People claim they never applied or never answer the question.

>>44102113
I guess she couldn't possibly give more trouble than Pippa/Tenma.

>>44102309
I get wanting to own the subhuman things but there's no point in using limited time to even think of anything that is related to them.

>>44102323
ye I could agree with that

>>44102323
That's not flat. Those're Suisei sized breasts.

If pikamee stream till her graduation she will be a 20k streamer all of a sudden with all this graduation hype

>>44102355
notzaion discord

>>44102309
no save it for her first JP7 gaming stream

>>44102450
Yeah, akiroze graduation

>>44102450
I'm more interested to see what happens at the tail end of Holofes/Holoexpo than the events themselves.

>>44102156
>keeps me motivated to even try to keep existing
Nice family you have there

>>44102236
>Isn't that still like 150k quid a year?
My rough guestimate is
Total earnings
£80,000
Tax to pay
£25,127
£19,432 income tax
£5,695 class 1 National Insurance
What you're left with
£54,873

>>44102065
they don't even give base pay despite making profits, anon

>>44102516
I hope she speaks japanese only from now on to signal that shes done with western clownworld

>everyone and their mother will beg pikamee for a collab
gotta leech from her viewers before they fuck off i guess...

>>44102190
funnier yet holos were ahead in subs to niji even before holoen so his whole premise is shaky from the get go

>>44102032
We learned that the homo Collab deniers, Gura, Fauna, Ninomae, and Mumei are hard carrying hololive while the homo cock sleeves are reclining. Kiara is excluded of course.

>>44102356
>Who knows how many people Cover rejects
Subaru said for gen 5 the ratio is 1:1200

What kind of numbers would another Ina x Pikamee collab get now?

ASMR specialist graduation announcement too
>Hanakumo Rin, Propro's 2nd Generation Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om_diQ9T3iE
https://twitter.com/hanakumo_rin/status/1630858381685841920

From the group popular in TW, with Koinoya Mai, Yumesaki Mia and the Matsuri yandere Amanohoshi Chiroru.

>>44102625
Can't wait for the Silvervale collab.

okay but the real question is can pikamee graduation win gold?

>>44102396
They don't debut people often or they are way too picky.

>>44102682
No

>>44102661
>popular in TW
>with Koinoya Mai
roru

>>44102236
>>44102579
oh wait Mysta said 21k not 25k so it would be somewhere around this area
Total earnings
£70,000
Tax to pay
£20,854
£15,432 income tax
£5,422 class 1 National Insurance
What you're left with
£49,146

>>44102644
The 5995 people who didn't make it must hate Aloe to this day.

Why are people still surprised that Niji talents don't make as much as the Holos? China gives you botted numbers but those don't pay the bills.

>>44102422
I don't think she would have gotten this attention if not for the perverted lolibaba behind the model.

The only thing preventing Anycolor announcement is the bad PR they farmed over the last 3 months.
Another graduation after back to back to back yabs + stocks falling is not a good look

>>44102657
Not happening Ina supports the cause. Wah!

>>44102682
I doubt she would be able to even get into the real tally.

>>44102682
Pekora will overlap that

>>44101154
there are trans vtubers that don't go and put a flag on their profile and tag their twitch as lgbtiqh+ who are also ok playing HL, is just that they are the silent minority of the loud minority

>>44102737
there is a limit to the level of blackness we wanted to belive

Tally doko?

>>44102396
well they might have trouble finding talents
just because n times more people tried to get in doesn't mean that there are that much more talented people in that pile

>>44102682
she said her graduation stream would be on youtube?

brutal

>>44102516
Would that count for EN gold or JP gold?

>>44102773
They can try to do it now and hope that Pikamee manages to overshadow it, but knowing their luck it will probably serve as a point of comparison

>>44102737
you have to be a chink to take out money from that shithole but aren't nijis exactly that?

>>44102236
>Isn't that still like 150k quid a year? Not a small amount like what is implied
Depending on whether the 21k includes national insurance or 21k of just income taxes, he made 72k or 84k pounds before taxes last year. That's 87k or 100k USD.
Anycolor is such a black company holy shit

>>44102728
Wow, that's not great considering the amounts he should be selling.

>>44102838
ah yes the one hour peak. fujos are consitant i give them that

See the pattern
>Coco
>Pikamee
Oh no no no chumbuds be careful your oshi is next

>>44102838
s-surely vox return will hit 10k naturally... right?

>>44102738
Gimme the source and artist before you go pls, iqdb and saucenao give nothing

>>44102728
There's bound to be some contractor tax shenanigans going on, I don't expect they are direct employees going through the standard tax process.
I earn more than that, and that's crazy with how much money Luxiem made for Nijisanji.

>>44102661
She sounds really cute
>Starts crying immediately.

>>44102883
I remember Mysta making a joke about not wanting to shill the Luxiem anni merch cause he was just gonna get a couple of % of the revenue anyway.

>>44102954
>Magni vs Gavis = Peko vs Miko
kek

>>44102830
Easy 100k

https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1624244044426801153
Mooms indefinite hiatus.

>>44102954
bruh why are they reposting our charts instead of making their own?

>>44102795
Well, now these good people have a perfect time to make their "community" a better place by calling out every abusive troon they know. Like one gay man once told me "I fucking hate faggots".

>>44102947
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5953912
Karin's a big fan
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/18499718

>>44102065
>Anycolor does take a big chunk out of their livers income
Makes sense if you think about it. The fact that the NijiEN girls kneeled before Kiara like she was some Hollywood celebrity informs us that the niji girls are very envious and would do anything to get a crumb of hololive's popularity.

https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1624244044426801153
Today just gets worse and fucking worse.

Anyone know how much Lamy paid for her tax and how much is the estimation of her total earning? How is it compared to Mysta?

>>44102579
>>44102728
Oh, that sounds more like it'd warrant what was posted earlier.
I meant to say 250k, not 150k, because someone said he paid almost 100k in taxes.

>>44102966
> contractor tax shenanigans going on
there isnt such thing unless anycolor is working direclty with the goverment or something.
or mysta is evading tax but he isnt that smart to pull that

>>44103038
>our

>>44102954
Link to whatever thread this is? I never know how to find these sites.

>>44103024
>>44103048
Go back

>>44103024
>>44103048
>Cumscare on the brain
Towabebe...

>>44102940
>See the pattern
explain.

>>44102966
even as an independent contractor youll only get as high as 80-90k pounds max before tax
>I earn more than that, and that's crazy with how much money Luxiem made for Nijisanji
Its literally not that surprising anon with all the comments some of the livers say like not being able to get a car or buy a rice cooker and with stories of how big niji gets in terms of cuts

>>44103024
>>44103048
>not 163
better find new tweets champs

>>44101907
>>29350747

>>44102224
>don't know why more people don't apply to HoloJP/HoloEN.
They do, the applicants and Cover just never admit it.

>>44103024
>>44103048
Nice try

>>44103024
>>44103048
hello discord!

>>44103052
Well Nijisanji En is making money compared to HoloJP so Lamy made $80k

>>44103081
>because someone said he paid almost 100k in taxes.
he was complaining of 21k in taxes anon

The Giftcord trannies are desperate for a HoloEN yab, the mixed collab angle didn't work as well as they expected.

>>44103024
Kys

>>44103052
what was the number she gave?

>>44102829
Sure, most applicants fall short, but that's not what was said by the person I replied to.

>>44102966
Like Kson bring retarded and paying like 50% taxes because she was double taxed from US and Japan

>>44102450
>holofes
What kind of buffs should we expect post holofes? I remember Miko's 3D love return stream boosting Karaoke streams back in 2020 September. Also, wasn't the month of October hololive Karaoke month? What changed?

How the fuck does Kson make 100k a month but Mysterio only makes less than 100k a year?

Imagine the seeth by these reddit and twitter fags if she actually joins hololive

What if Ame or Gura do a send off performance with Pikamee on their 3D showcase like Mori with Boogie Voxx

>>44102536
Doesn't Pika have closer ties to niji/vshojo than holo? She only collabed once with holos (Ina)

>>44103329
Over 100 million yen as far as I remember

>>44103365
Wasn't that Mori? Kson if i remember right just bemoaned her taxes in general

>>44103121
mercury.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/livemegami/1677689143/

>>44103442
It's way too late for that. The 3D showcases are planned out months beforehand, in Ina's case years beforehand.

>>44103442
Lol they never did shit with her

>>44103338
fair
sorry for throwing my 2 cents in

>>44103052
somewhere around 300k$

A culture war is upon us.

>>44102065
well they probably remind him that either he can take some $7k/month as a top dog on his best year ever now facing a huge recline next year...or get back to <$1k if he wants to leave. Meanwhile the fuckers must make some 4x or 5x the money they pay him

>>44103410
>Comparing an ex holo to a niji

>>44103410
>How the fuck does Kson make 100k a month
now lets not get ahead of ourselves.

>>44103052 (me)
>>44103213
>>44103329
Nvm I found it >>37166660
Since Lamy paid more than 100 million yen in tax, at the very minimum she made 230 million yen or 1.7 million dollars with today's exchange rate.

>>44103410
Vshojo’s $11 million went somewhere anon

You telling me Nazuna earns more in a month than Mysta? tf bro thats whack

>>44102737
But Finana (or was it Pomu) said that Luxiem make more than HoloJP. Source is livers themselves so it must be true.

>>44103442
They won't.

Also, man, that Boogie Voxx send off was nice.

>>44103432
Not happening, she wouldn't sacrifice more of her creative freedom just to move to a slighly bigger corpo.

>>44103545
That’s bullshit, even niji livers were boasting that they were making HoloJP equivalent in money

>>44103432
Thats the only company i can think they can protect her better than VOMS on twitter. Just bring mori and she will make a song just to make fun of trannies again

>>44103545
wtf how are taxes even legal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqFJg6kEFdo

>10m subs
>7k ccv

holy dead subs

>>44103577
it was finana, and soon she will catch up to luxiem with these sponsored streams.

>>44103410
I'm still convinced Mysta had to pay 21k extra on top of what he already paid that was taken out of his paychecks.

>>44103577
They apparently forgot to mention that they didn't make the money for themselves but for the company

>>44103646
They're not, that's why most people don't pay them.

>>44103634
Turns out they have no idea what they are talking about. Well maybe they made more than Roboco who just bought a house in Tokyo.

there must be something else on that statement of mysta either he didnt want to reveal what he really paid or maybe wasnt his income tax for the year.
is just too low.

>>44103521
Niji is bigger than Holo

>>44103545
Lol does even kuzuha make that much?

>>44103657
>Proto Vtubers
Gotta respect the Dai-Dai-Dai-Paisens

>>44103676
nah he clearly said 21k taxes and not on top

>>44103580
Their performance of Crown was really good.

>>44103410
Because anycolor is a black company that gives only crumbs to their organs.

>>44103625
She won't join to the whores, vshitters.

>>44103665
Niji making them accept RAID sponsors now lol

>>44103657
Gorillaz are pretty much the first ENvsingers

>>44103657
wtf he's literally a vtuber now

>>44103676
$100 says that he's gonna mention it again and now say that 21k was on top or was the wrong number just to damage control since those guys are here

>>44103665
>How much do RAID: Shadow Legends pay for sponsorships?
>The company pays $4.19k on average for every ad, with this price differing from market to market. The US influencers, for example, get $11.8k for a sponsored video with an average of 261.9k views, while Russian creators get only $2.4k with 221.3k views.

this was on 2021 i wonder how it is now

>>44103646
>>44103700
Tax evaders are scum and I will anti any vtuber who doesn't pay their fair share. It's the main way people can contribute back to the country and helps support necessary public services.

them Raid sponsorships look very tempting now

>>44102883
These are his superchat numbers for 2022. 311k pounds.
In a vacuum, if 1/3 goes to youtube, 207k is left to split between anycolor and Mysta. And yet he got 72k-84k (35-40% of the remainder while anycolor gets 60-65%)

This of course doesn't include membership money, which he allegedly has over 8k, SC sent during membership streams, ad from views, sponsored streams and merchandise (half anniversary, anniversary, birthday)
So the real split is probably even lower, 30/70 or 20/80

>check deleted posts in the archive
>all shitting on trannies
what the fuck meidos, that's not even against the rules

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>32,543: NeruMero (Indie)
>32,442: Subaru (Hololive)
>32,085: Miko (Hololive)
>29,789: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>29,126: Koyori (Hololive)
>24,512: Kanata (Hololive)
>22,042: NeruMero (Indie)
>18,696: Calliope (Hololive)
>14,435: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,745: Nene (Hololive)
>13,557: Watame (Hololive)
>13,403: Ema (VSPO)
>13,356: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,790: Genshin Mosu (Indie)
>12,393: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>12,278: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,825: Choco (Hololive)
>11,504: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,377: Genshin Mosu (Indie)

A double slip day for Holos with gold going for NeruMero by a 101 difference

>>44103646
That's why they invested their money back to avoid taxes. Like for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd2bUjYe4EI she doesn't need to pay taxes since technically her income is zero.

>>44103723
i mean...
Lamy making more than him would not surprise me at all

>>44103702
He's evading taxes for sure, my dad does the same shit. Makes 300k a year but he puts a lot of bullshit on his itemization/business expenses so he only has to pay taxes on like 100k of that gross even though he probably actually nets like 250k. Surprised he hasn't been audited yet.

>why is Kson making money wryyy!!
>Why is nazona making more money than my fav chuuba wryyyy
Holy newfag. The baits are becoming more lazier by the day. Lurk more newfag-chama

>>44103820
>1.8k for a sponsored video with an average of 261.9k views
>261k views
yeah that aint happening with niji

>>44102838
That whole image is just a visual representation of ACCELERATE.

>>44103814
It's better to lie about being poor than telling your fans have rich you are for more money.

>>44102457
>>44102065
if he made $80k taxed on that year, then that means that his sc cut can't be higher than 20%, and that's assuming that all his money was made from sc and nothing else. Or, perhaps, they are already discounting some "viewer boosting" fees on that pay, lol.

>>44103410
>How the fuck does Kson make 100k a month
kek, she doesn't make 100k per month for a LOOOOOOONG time, she would have to be moving about 200k gross per month in merch and sponsorship to make for the difference in SC revenue she lost recently

>>44103880
It's unfair to call Miko's a slip since JewTube shat the bed big time.

>>44103820
Nah people have talked about them and these contracts have shit tons of incentives that they have to reach for the full amount

https://www.networthspot.com/pekora-ch/net-worth/#what-net-worth
Is this true?

>>44103711
True, but Nijis are smaller than holos. You people always compare companies whilst ignoring the talents in them. Not to mention the fact that Cover is way more stable than Anycolor is.

>>44103657
the models that they are using now are so fucking good if EN vtubes had the same artstyle I wouldn't have minded to see some models that aren't just ''anime'', but too bad is all furries and fetish models with big bellies

Hold up. Vsaikyou 5? I thought 4 was the last one

>>44104002
Won't even click it before saying
>not really
These sites take subs and VOD views and estimate

>>44103092
Companies are not going to help workers evade taxes, because it lowers their own business expenses and hence they would have to pay more in corporate taxes

>>44103676
You mean how the Japanese government comes in in January and pre extorts your future tax?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJXocse7mzg

>>44104085
was there any important guests showing up, obviously startend didnt show up looking at the catalog.

>>44104085
Wasn't CR cup the one that's done?

>>44103928
Nazuna running 3 account + 1 shop.how much she earn no one know.

>>44103864
>meidos keeping vt from being pol
based

>>44103971
I mean the math would fit if they only get the SC money and the company gets everything else
would not even be that surprising given nijisanjis track record

Be careful for what you wish for anon

>>44103880
Mikoti...

>>44103861
That is enough to make up for what he is paying in taxes, how much are they taking from all the other revenue sources?

>>44104221
die troon

>>44103277
People know the deal with the mixed collabs by now: four potential homocollabers, decent numbers from tourists and then those tourists disappear into the ether until the next big homocollab while the homocollabers lose a little bit more of their actual fanbase.

>>44104239
i want rushia to comabck to holo

>>44104166
Towa is team captain

>>44104221
>t. Artemis of the Blue

>>44102625
don't they support the cause?

>>44104280
She already reject it and join another team as member

>>44103711
that hasnt been true since 2020

>>44104280
Not this time.
There was some predictions that she'd be with Astel, but I don't know how they'd stay below the point limit.

>>44104252
>>44104297
Numbers?
Go cry about it in the catalog, faggots.

>>44103880
WELLLLLLLLLLL ANONSSSSSS!?!??!?!
>WHERE ARE THE DEHYA LEWDS!?!?

>>44104297
did it say anything about the kerfuffle?

>>44103975
does it count twitch too?

>>44103486
Maybe the t*anny drama is not the reason and she filled the graduation way before. The month long break is due to her recording the performance.

>>44104250
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 20/80 split for channel revenue and 5% for merch

>>44102883
Even without goods, he must earn at least 200-300k this year from Youtube alone. Even Millie earns ~7k/month from Youtube alone (she leaked Youtube studio before)

>>44104390
>t. newfag

>>44103634
because they read the sc numbers from playboard and assumed their cuts and other revs were the same, lol

>>44103646
Anon, taxes on the rich help pay for a ton of shit like public transit and shit. Reducing your tax burden with rules, fair game, they exist to ENCOURAGE you to spend your money.
Not paying them via straight up breaking the law is NG as fuck though.

Pikamee is EN3

>>44104426
Anyone that followed her probably realized she was trending toward this over a year ago.

>>44103702
>>44103911
That 21k slip only proves what people have been saying here for a long time. That Anycolor takes a lions share (probably around 80-90%) of the livers profits.

>>44103528
>>44103975
It was from all sources
>YT Sc, memberships
>merch sales
>Stamp sales
>Twitch memberships and bits
and back when she said she made 15mil Yen she also had
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3mgB08_pHk
>Mildom
>Holo membership residuals
>Mildom

>>44104412
Only youtube superchat. Assume she makes the same amount on twitch, that would put her on 75k in jul 2022

>>44103880
if its pekocraft she can easily beat 32k

>>44104442
>5% for merch
no way. i think is just given the anture of merch
>acrulics, voicepacks,etc
that are repated all the time jsut with different artworks merch beyond the first batch never sells as much as we might have expected.

>>44104474
Neck yourself, sister.

>>44104279
wish granted, she will comeback... as merchandise!

>>44103657
This is really good, really committed to the character and stream.
Music's good too ofc
>They had Tame Impala

>>44104472
>he must earn
That's the thing though, we have an idea about what he earns, but we are trying to see how much anycolor takes

>>44103657
I still remember when Justin Bieber got like 60k in a live, the fact that these big shoot singers lose to hololive in the world of streaming always makes me laugh

>>44103977
If you're reliant on a funnel to get to 30k+ on minecraft you deserve to slip

>>44104505
she had some shit going throughout 2022, right? I remember some bits here and there

>>44104550
5% might even be too high given that i saw someone posted this in another thread
https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1130702535147188224?
They might not be getting any cut of the merch at all

>Mystake is tax evading

>>44104567
Trying too hard to fit in.

>>44104550
>never sells as much as we might have expected
That would be really grim

>>44103861
>>44104250
>>44104472
anon, the 50:50 niji contract doesn't start in-effect until you a niji veteran based of anycolor's definition of what "veteran" means
For all we know, they could start with 10% or less

>>44104002
>5-6Mil$
>we predict the Pekora Ch. 兎田ぺこら YouTube channel generates and $1.06 million in ad revenue a year.
Seems a bit low, but they don't know all the side income Holos are getting. But then again, their expenses are really high too.

>>44104426
Obviously she didn't decide this in just a few weeks. Not even getting to stream after her burnout break, then taking another one, was the straw that broke her metaphorical back. She's just had enough.
This is why JP7 might be on the table, since they'd be insulated from the harassment. EN3 was too before blue boy had to open his mouth. Bae was probably planning to play it before he did.

>>44104656
That would explain why Niji 'livers' don't give much of a shit about merch.

To be fair, anycolor has all the leverage over their talents. Even if they do get raped with 75% merch and SC cuts, it's still better than risking going solo.

>>44104656
i mean this shit was posted 4 years ago, so with him becoming one of the biggest niji livers, obviously the cut would get renegotiated. it just begs the question what is the starting cut, or if they even changed it, because they haven't changed the no salary part as far it is known.

>>44103971
>>44102457
>>44102065
holy Black company

>>44103820
>Raid SL pays $11.8k for a sponsored video with an average of 261.9k views
thats cheap as fuck, some sponsor had offered the holofightz owner some $10k for his mid 3digits viewers (which make up some 1k total views with luck)

>>44104681
Thread isn't your toilet, tourist.

>>44104390
kys troon

>>44104516
That's October 2022 referring to her income in Sep 2022.
She joined VShojo right around that time (July 2022) and had a lot of balls rolling from her solo indie career, in a period she had to FULLY bankroll her own endeavors.

Among other things, didn't she drop MILDOM?

>>44104472
>>44104550
So let's assume he ended the year with 500k in his youtube adsense balance. He's paying 21k in taxes, which correlates to a gross income of 70-80k. That's 15% of the channel revenue and we are not even talking about merch money, which according to anycolor's financials, is equal to the revenue the company earns from streaming
It looks fucking grim, unless his accountant is a literal tax evading god and he has 10 children with disabilities to get tax cuts

>>44104787
>i mean this shit was posted 4 years ago, so with him becoming one of the biggest niji livers, obviously the cut would get renegotiated
Andd from what weve seen with the mysta tax thing and considering luxiem was their top earner they dont give a shit with screwing them over with the cuts since they have the livers by the balls.

Wait if Mysta needs to pay 21k tax/year how much he actually made?
Just for your info Lamy paid 100Million yen last year just for taxes and how much she actually made?

>>44103646
Just tax the obscenely rich a normal amount, like back in the 50s. The movement of taxation to the common man is why shit sucks for you.

>>44104747
Again with thinking that whatever comes out of the blue fag's mouth holds any importance. Bae probably wasn't even aware that he ever touched on the subject.

>>44103880
Another day, another MikoSlip

>>44102625
What viewers? It's not 2020.

>>44104847
HoloEN and HoloJP viewers worth a lot

Superchat February (Kaigai only)
4,661,157 円 Gavis Holostar EN 2,880,482 円 Kson
2,813,903 円 Baelz Holo EN
2,723,319 円 IRyS Holo EN
2,636,806 円 Kiara Holo EN
2,477,324 円 Fauna Holo EN
2,402,970 円 Noir Holostar EN 2,384,506 円 Vox Niji EN Man

>>44104908
see
>>44102728

>>44104385
>predictions
Just homobeggars. She can be anywhere really since she has connections to lots of captains.

>>44104952
Nice formatting retard homobeggar

>>44104908
half a mill

>>44102682
No. Unless we count her as EN.

>>44104900
yeah but that's equating someone in the company close to it's inception to this new guy that just celebrated their anniversary, and i assume the taxes are based on his starting year, which would then loop back into their starting cut. i don't disagree with the merch cut being obscenely small though, since it's anycolor's IP that the company itself commissions the art and manufacturing.

>>44103410
Mysta is literally a pathological liar and/or really really fucking stupid. He constantly says shit that is wrong or gets disproven instantly. I wouldnt exactly take what he says at face value

>>44105051
all of nijisanji are liars anon

>>44104869
Yes, that's why i said, it was 15Mil right then during Mildom, before Twitch took off.

She had an interview with Ladybeard in June 2022 when she said 10Mil, or ~100k$ a month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EklFBkYoHRw
She also did say in another stream that it cost her 6 figures to do the Home3D stuff and first Model. Super3D and 2nd concert probably cost as much too.

>>44103880
Who is NeruMero and how did she beat a smok collab?

>>44103657
hes a better chuuba than any other EN male

>>44104952
>Superchat February (Kaigai only)

>4,661,157 円 Gavis Holostar EN >2,880,482 円 Kson
>2,813,903 円 Baelz Holo EN
>2,723,319 円 IRyS Holo EN
>2,636,806 円 Kiara Holo EN
>2,477,324 円 Fauna Holo EN
>2,402,970 円 Noir Holostar EN
>2,384,506 円 Vox Niji EN

*Edit

>>44104787
I mean, huge record labels only pay some pitiful 10% of the rev to their bigass artists, why do you think Anycolor would do any different, specially with Sony Music investors on them from the start?

>>44105036
from the way king acts about his merch or even his company sponsored events i think he still doesnt get a good cut on it
the only thing he probably re negotiated was more freedom in his contract

>>44105144
just stop trying. go make a googledoc and copy paste it or something

>Gorillaz wins cripple gold

>>44103410
He's definitely lying or a master of tax evasion

>>44105134
THE Genshin player.
Babiniku vtuber.
>>44103880
Sorry, not feeling like lewding today. Too much shit going down.

>>44105150
>I mean, huge record labels only pay some pitiful 10% of the rev to their bigass artists
thats in song revenue which is why music artists make up for it in merch sales which they get a bigger share
thats where the difference lies since anycolor also gets a bigger if not 100% of their merch sales

>>44103646
learn about tax deduction and tax credit
start founding your own religion, IRA, etc
corporations are people

Korean bloke that made the "I Undersstimated Hololive" released a new video titled
>THE POWER OF HOLOJP IS REAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnlYIPxk3LE
Description
>Hololive JP members land in Korea for the first time ever.
>I witness the Power of Gen 3, but there's so much more..
Bloke fell head over heels for Hololive

>>44105036
The simpler explanation is that the number he quoted is not his total income tax at all. Isn't it just the difference between what anycolor had already withheld and what he was supposed to pay?

Well according to the chinksis, one of hex fanleaders switch allegiance to bettel, bringing some of his paypigs to him because they don't see hex ending well in the future kek

>>44104952
>2,880,482 円 Kson
Anon.....
>kson
>kaigai
She's japanese, you know?

>>44105248
are we going to consider them as vtuber?

so we can agree that anycolo is a balck company and taxes are bad

>>44104656
looks like this is what he was talking about
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1130730679849762817

>604 waiting
it's over

>>44104787
by april 2019 he was already among the top 10 nijis

>>44103821
lol

>>44105297
>160k viewers on the holoen video
Damn

>>44105248
This IS a vtuber stream to be fair... also they're genuinely not converts, since they're OG.

>>44103880
Tallyanon, how you feeling about including the Gorillaz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqFJg6kEFdo
https://playboard.co/en/video/tqFJg6kEFdo
>8.5k and rising

>>44104976
Isn't she worth 7 or 8 points? She can't be in any team.

>>44105297
Moona would have been a way better choice than Risu for this. Her color scheme meshes really well with Sora and Gura.

>>44105297
they're not even sure if nijisanji was participating or not

>>44104665
Easier done where he's at, or he could launder his money to his "homeland"

>>44105338
trying to take vox place and traumadumpster, it's obvious it will not end well

>>44105450
Cap is 21. It really depends on who is 3rd person.

>>44105357
>consider them as vtuber
Weren't they always vtubers?

>>44105297
they will release a new branch to show the investors the power of Hololive

>>44105513
hed get screwed harder in his homeland anon given that he's earning foreign income just like that boxer

>>44105435
this stream is cracking

>>44104392
>weakest standard banner character
>brown
hopefully nowhere

>>44105533
That's a lot, I guess it got increased. If Aqua was interested startend could've joined again, with Suisei as the leader.

>>44105297
I always find it funny that every convention that features hololive always results in it getting a fire safety violation due to having more people than expected

>>44105649
>Cracker Island
That's why they couldn't stream it on Twitch

I hope no NijiEN lurkiing this thread. This is soul crushing as workers and I'm not even watch NijiEN.. Even mid HoloEN like Mumei could buy houses and land in mid state..

>>44105665
>looks at kit
Argh, so fucking weak. It's a shame (not really, I'll just keep using Hu Tao, best waifu)

>>44105775
why?
They know how much they make more than we do.
Wouldn't they be already depressed if any of these estimates are true?

>Murdoc 8,884
>Mysta 8,877

Mystakek status?

>>44105880
Depressed to know that holos get 50/50 split

>>44105901
>9,040 watching now
Before the finale.

>10mil subs vs 1mil
I think Mysta's fine.

>>44105880
>Wouldn't they be already depressed if any of these estimates are true?
Huh so maybe thats why mysta is always depressed?

9k DORYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAA

>>44105880
>Wouldn't they be already depressed if any of these estimates are true?

>>44105880
>Wouldn't they be already depressed
They don't?

>>44104546
Peko slip to mori even without youtube bugging embarrassing

Now post monthly memberships numbers

>>44105971
>702m view song
>9k ccv
Even Irys is impressed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEXvOhYNrPU
>Can actually fucking stream in the afternoon and it'd be like her regular streams when she's in NA
>Decides "nah" and decides to directly overlap Fauna
Why

c'mon Murdoc get in the tally

>>44104605
Just like peko slipping to mori

>>44106012
Anycolor must be making bank on sc and membership considering none of their livers seem to get a cut from it

>>44104746
her merch per event is $500k- $1M plus her new 1/4 figure

Wait so how much taxes was Mori paying again?

>>44106047
Don't know why she likes to overlap so much, but it pretty much became her MO.

Murdoc's mistake was to not play controllah, chat is full of Brazilians asking for it

>>44106012
https://holochatstats.info/members

>>44106077
so when king said he earn nothing from merch was not joking too?

>>44106170
jokes are sometimes half truths

>>44106047
It's not enough to tank her own numbers. She wants to drag everyone else down with her too.

The mysta tax leaks explains a lot of things. NijiEN looked like they earned more than HoloEN in SC rankings, but for some reason they kept streaming very long hours despite making that much, while holoEN takes constant toomy hoort breaks

>>44106141
all of them

>>44105980
Despite Mysta and Vox constantly doubling down on stupid decisions, I sometimes catch myself feeling sympathy for how NijiCN destroys their psyche.

>>44106160

>>44105297
Its Sankisei

>Professional entertainment is a really good entertainer
Murdoc's a real lad.

WHAT WENT WRONG?

>>44103880
I'm glad that Subaru doesn't win again after the fiasco from Chumbuds last time she did.

numbers?

>>44097309
what about the chuuni one that debuted after her?

OK now I just remember Anykara used to be part of Sony music,
Now that's explain the extreme huge cut for their artist/streamer.
Is Anykara still a part of SME?

>>44103444
That's why she better reincarnated as a Holo

just for reference

>>44106279
They didn't listen to sultan

>>44106279
they didnt listen

>>44105990
Ow the sister is crying

>>44106265
>no 2 year+ members for pekora
Why not?

I have a sneaking suspicion Youtube fucked with the algos again. I can't prove it but I think there was a change back in the middle of January.

>>44106329
Gotta show the limitations of being a musician trying live stream, and how high Mori, Suisei and even AZKi and Sora fly

>>44103880
Koyori 29k what the actual fuck

>>44106333
>>44106367
Is he the guy who said that Anycolor needs to be careful in how they use Salami?

>>44106299
5k for both
>skyrim
>penumbra
fauna needs to find another game

Pikamee graduation 100k+ minimum?

>>44106299
5k/5k

>>44106299
4k, 7k

>>44106380
No 2+ years badge?

>>44105990
miko is not first army anymore and her nepo hire always mogged her

>>44106406
yeah
basically said that this might be their chance to incline

>>44106299
Debuffson I kneel

>>44106421
She'll be completely done with Penumbra this weekend and will move on to Bioshock 2.
>Skyrim
It's her comfort game.

>>44106144
It's Peak "Bitch Girlfriend" behavior anon.
>Oh, there's someone else streaming? Well, SURELY you'll watch ME over THEM, right?!
She goes OUT OF HER WAY to SPECIFICALLY overlap other people, and she's been pretty consistent at doing it too for over a year at this point.

>>44106328
>Pikamee touched grass and did her gym reps to be a better fit holo

>>44105338
>gangs

>>44106426
20k

>>44106405
She Z'd up from 24k

MURDOC DON'T LEAVE ME NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sapling seethe is nice

>>44104952
Gavis has accumulated female unicorns?

Murdoc bros our EN gold...

>>44106406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPyTSM0ELe4

>>44106421
5k for Ame
6.5 k for Fauna. 7k if she outlasts debuffson which she might

>>44106299
Surely all those tourist fom that collab will tune in and give Ame a nice 10k stream, right ?

Isegye Idol 02/2023 Meak Peak and Mean True Average

Mean Peak :
1.Ine 20,007
2.Lilpa 14,451
3.VIichan 13,721
4.Jururu 11,673
5.Gosegu 11,463
6.Jingburger 9,263

Isegye Idol 12,925(all streams)

Mean True Average :
1.Ine 17,264
2.Lilpa 11,512
3.VIichan 9,645
4.Gosegu 8,769
5.Jururu 8,351
6.Jingburger 6,980

Isegye Idol 9,558(all streams)

>>44105297
gen 3 is still the strongest gen

Pikamee was the first "streamer" vtuber I ever watched, she was my entry into all of this. I can't believe she's quitting

>>44106634
That's his voice...?
I thought he'd sound more like Oga.

Just an FYI regarding the tax thing with Mysta. The tax return he was due to file in the UK this year was the one running from 6th April 2021 to 5th April 2022. Scroll down to page 3 here where it explains the deadlines and the time period.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1062331/SA100_tax_return__2022_.pdf
>This notice requires you, by law, to make a return of your taxable income and capital gains, and any documents requested, for the year from 6 April 2021 to 5 April 2022
>Deadlines
>We must receive your tax return by these dates:
>if you’re filing a return online – by 31 January 2023
So that £21k tax is actually just the first three months of his earnings January, February, March last year.

>>44105297
no one is buying in nijisanji booth LMAO

>Hu Tao in OP
Best selling banner btw

>>44106775
there was one?

>>44106684
I guess this is why Ine is the only one whose streams get reuploaded to Youtube. She must be their Fubuki.

>>44106757
Not just that anon, you mean, that's just his UK tax, not his total income tax?

I thought the raid shadow legend was pushed by Noor and Paul Li, the reality was actually Reimu and Finana really need the money to survive..

>>44106827
There are more taxes on income than that in the UK yeah, he would have to pay National Insurance too on top of income tax.

>>44105297
Woah a korean bRat. At least he hasnt left yet

>>44105435
Give me a Noodle stream

>>44106757
did he say that its the tax he's specifically paying?

>>44103880
Ok, that Gorillaz stream was a good distraction.
Here are All the other NeruMero images i can find.

>>44106797
>Way more people rolled for Yelen than Hu Tao

>>44106831
at least they still earn more than holoid

>>44106831
and enna poorbaiting on stream only to go to disneyland with luca...

>>44106684
Oh fuck, I mean Median Peak and Median True Average

>>44106925
i mean not by much and considering they live in the west while id lives ina 3rd world country nijien is screwed

>>44106684
biggest twitch vtubers

>>44106951
>Median True Average
The heck does that mean?

>>44106939
lmfao no way

In what might be top 10 weirdest vtuber merch items, Nijisanji is selling a Yashiro branded swiss army knife
https://twitter.com/armabianca_shop/status/1630855403612561410

>>44106910
>>44103880

>>44106757
Isn't UK has one of the shittiest tax rules for entertainer. I remember watching YouTube streamer complaining she needs to pay taxes almost 50% for her total income, it was around mid 2019, I don't know if the rules has changed or not.

>>44106986
>>44103880

>>44106983
>Peak functionality merch

>>44107022
it still is

my cute wife

>>44107034
>>44103880
>>44107022
>50%
Wouldn't they have to pay more than that in JP, with income tax of 45% for 300k$+ yearly earners?
Also, 60%+ in nordic countries.

>>44106827
pretty sure that it his income tax

>>44107022
well yeah, becasue you cant deduct anything

>>44107114
Streaming right now, and on the tally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN8up_5Jmjs

>>44106983
>Victorinox x Nijisanji
>Huntsman model
>Around 30$

>>44106983
don't worry, botan's next collab merchandise will be a scorpion and a helmet with ssrb design

>>44106899
There isn't really another thing you would call "your taxes" in the UK. There isn't like a state income tax and a federal one or whatever its just the one national income tax. There is national insurance contributions too but thats not really the same thing as a tax.

>>44107022
It does ramp up quite quickly. Anything over £50k you are paying 40% income tax on, anything over £150k you are paying 45% on.

>>44106983
more money to the company and rikus yacht while none to the livers

>Japs want Pikamee in JP7

>>44107114
>wife
puta

>>44106978
The median of the true average from every stream.

>>44107187
>genshin
i threw up

>>44106684
Where are you sourcing your numbers mate? Lipa has a 10.962 average on twitchtracker
https://twitchtracker.com/lilpaaaaaa/statistics
It's not a lot of difference but it is easily verifiable

>>44107176
You can if you are self-employed which I assume Mysta is.
https://www.gov.uk/expenses-if-youre-self-employed

>>44107246
pic or didn't happen

I still don't understand how vesper managed to lose so many viewers

>>44107129
>>44103880

>>44107277
he is working for a foreign company

>>44106910
Speaking of NeruMero, is there a first party statement of himself disclosing the model is female?
I have him as a male but I'm having second thoughts and should put him in the "female" column like Tamaki is in the "male"

>>44107277
working under a foreign company anon

>>44107340
I think they are self-employed contractors and not employees though.

EN GOLD (in my heart)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJRaAWNTw3g

Has the feb SC tallies been posted yet? Did Vettel get more than every NijiEN male? Did Pippa get the most SC of all EN female vtubers?

>>44107380
>not a collab
IRYS YOU FOOL

>>44107283
1. Shit content.
2. His zatsu is literally an SC reading now
3. Being a gigantic faggot and bailing on his half anni and every single tempus collab nowadays

>>44107380
>10pm EST
What the fuck is her problem