/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>43957144
Gonna get cucked live

>>43957144
You post here. You have already been sucked. Both literally and metaphorically.

>>43957144
This kronie is evolving. Let's hope it doesn't lead to suicide

This, but the collabs are great and will be watched.

Why are you telling us about this? Whatever dude.

>>43957144
>Gonna watch Kronii
>Gonna live a healthier life overall

>>43957144
It's not a yab to be whore, anon. It's the modern way of life.

>actually being proud of being a kronigger
YIKES

>>43957144
Imagine if she flirts with vesper? im waiting for the memes and clips

i love posts like this because it gives haters nothing to fight with, when you reach nirvana nobody can take you down to abaddon, no matter how hard they try, fellow enlightened kronie, bottoms up!

>Gonna live a healthier life overall by not falling into the schizo deathtrap of a parasocial relationship
You haven't done this as long as you still watch vtubers.

>>43957417
She already does. The problem is if Vesper flirts back.

>>43957330
are you upset that OP can put two and two together and is enjoying her oshi at his fullest?

>>43957144
Don't forget to send red SC for ultimate experience.

>>43957144
You already proved you have brain damage in the 1st line though.

>>43957144
>Gonna watch Kronii streams
What streams

>>43957144
what yabs? she's perfect

>>43957790
t. Vesper

>>43957144
>she's cute and fun
>I'm not parasocial though
if you think a person is cute and fun, you are by definition parasocial with them
-by definition-
if you are parasocial with a woman, and she has sex with a man, you are a paracuck, which is just as cucky as a regular cuck
Therefore
you are a cuck
whether you want it or not

>>43957144
cringe yesmanronii

>>43957928
and then they say kronies are mentally ill... vtuber fans are fucking weird overall but thinking like this is something you expect from someone who is completely deranged

>>43957144
Me too. YABBA DABBA DOO!

>>43958092
we talking about two koreans, they are not race mixing, that's the most important thing

>>43958076
You know he's right.
Why would you say a random streamer on the internet is cute and fun if you didn't had some feelings for her? In the end you still want to support her and watch her content, which makes you parasocial.

>>43957144
But let me guess, you're not going to give a single cent to her because you're not a parasocial schizo, right? It's stupid to spend money on overpriced shit for free entertainment, right?
See, that's always the problem. People love to feel like they're part of something huge. They like the idea of taking something nice and smashing it together with everything else under the sun. It screams 'infinite potential', like everything else becomes equally liked by association. Unfortunately, just like the MCU, when it does happen, viewers don't really engage with it. They ogle it until the novelty wears off and then fuck off, just content that they've marked another thing off on their list like a tourist speeding through a top hundred attractions list. They don't actually put their money where their mouth is.

>>43957928
Describing someone as cute and fun while not being emotionally impacted by their behaviour is pretty unspecific.
For example, I think 99 Luftballons is cute and fun.
Or, more on-topic example, I like to watch 1view indies, compliment their design or their behavior as cute or their streams as cozy, and go about my way a few minutes or sometimes two hours later. Sometimes I come back, sometimes I never see them again. Life goes on.

>>43958248
No, money is not the line. Even a passing interest can be something that makes you buy merch or super exactly because you want to feel as part of something, even if that "something" may change. For example, I'm this anon >>43958300 and I have put several hundreds in each membership fees and merch. Right now I mostly watch a single indie to whom I am both membered and for whom I buy gift memberships. I still like the old merch but I definitely don't watch the old chuubas as much.

>>43958300
>>43958608
Jesas. I don't know how to break this to you anon but you're absolutely down the parasocial hole. Read back what you wrote from a third party's perspective.

>>43957144
I don't care about this depressed lady in mid-30s.
Not because of males and other bullshit but because if I would ever want to look at a wreck of a woman I would just go outside. Honestly I'm kinda sad that she did not got food poisoning after that sandwich stream.

>>43958608
Money is not the line because if it's already being talked about for a free service, the line has long been crossed miles back. 'Parasocial' has never been remotely restricted to even arguably the extreme of 'I want this streamer to know I exist as an individual', it means, 'there are times when I set aside time to watch this person - not this game or activity, this person in particular - I find it pleasurable to root for them to succeed in what they're doing at that moment and when they do, I'm happy for them; when they fail, I feel sympathy for them' - all this fits snugly into the very definition of a parasocial relationship.
There are kids who just click the first Apex Legends stream with the most viewers and watch that - those are not parasocial. People like Dyrus who went from 10K viewers to barely 700 after switching away from League - all those viewers he lost aren't parasocial for him. But if someone watches a streamer just because they're that streamer, and if they weren't that streamer, they wouldn't have their browser on that channel? They're parasocial. The uniqueness of the streamer's identity is the whole selling point of the stream.

Shut the fuck up, the only reason you're still there is to ERP with the rest of the namefags. You don't even need Kronii.

>>43959081
To me being parasocial implies some sort of one-sided investment into their lives which I don't have. If you feel like humoring me, draw me a line for being parasocial and I can explain to you why I am not overstepping it.

>>43959687
>I have put several hundreds in each membership fees and merch. Right now I mostly watch a single indie to whom I am both membered and for whom I buy gift memberships.

>>43957144
>because she's cute and fun
wrong she has an ugly personality and is boring

>>43957144

>>43959185
>it means, 'there are times when I set aside time to watch this person - not this game or activity, this person in particular - I find it pleasurable to root for them to succeed in what they're doing at that moment and when they do, I'm happy for them; when they fail, I feel sympathy for them' - all this fits snugly into the very definition of a parasocial relationship.
That's a very generous application of that word. I have friends who watch movies because they are made by specific directors or get excited by new music releases because they are made by specific artists. This falls under what you're describing de su, but there is no social aspect so I would not call it parasocial.
Rather, to me the line is between coming back to Dyrus streams because you want to support him, and watching him because it's a reliable source of entertainment and enjoyment.

>>43960066
Friendly advice to read up on what parasocial means instead of defining what it means "to you"

>>43959867
gotta love the delusions of an anon that doesn't understand the meaning of "subjective"

>>43960066
It's not a generous application of the word at all, it's the literal definition. It just seems that way to you precisely because your media consumption habits (and pretty much most people's) are already so deeply steeped in parasocial relationships that they can barely conceive what it would feel like not to be so. But you can easily imagine that someone living in a small village where everyone knows each other, without TV or radio, can go their entire lives without a single parasocial relationship.
Fact of the matter is when most people talk about 'parasocial relationships' they're happily laying into the straw man of the obsessed schizo who thinks that they'll date the streamer one day. Since they aren't remotely close to being that sort of person, they reassure themselves they're above it all, they separate the art from the artist, they see the world for what it is. But then something like ZilianOP or Kevin Spacey shit happens and then they convince themselves that the sheer level of disgust and need for vengeance they feel is perfectly normal. Not at all a product of being parasocially attached to a figure they secretly felt intimate with and betrayed by, no sir.
Streamers especially always have an emotional hook in anyone who watches them for who they are. It might be in a different place for each person, but it's always there. People just always pretend they're the detached ones and the rest are the schizos until it's over their own hot button issue. Then it's all "You don't understand, it's different from that inconsequential bullshit, this is actually IMPORTANT." And it all boils down to the same plea at the end: "You should have been the person I cared about."

>>43959767
The merch is a great point for all the wrong reasons. I rather think of the merch as memorabilia of social interactions with people I actually interact with (or used to).
I have a Goodsmile Okayu at home which I bought while camping next to some tourist trap with my friends. Okayu specifically because I watched a Mario Kart tournament together with some other friends the year before and one of them really liked and rooted for her.
Most of my merch are actually just plushies, which I ordered while visiting my then-relationship partner who I used to watch streams with together, and we used to exchange plushies as some dorky ritual whenever we see each other. I even bought one as a gift but never got around sending it. I used to just put them in random corners of my door's or webcam's field of view, f.e. while streaming or having guests.
Then there is a music CD which I talked about with one of my friends who also makes his own music and it didn't seem like a huge pricetag at the time.
The indie I watch mostly because she played my favorite game and had zatsudans and fanart drawing streams about it. I skip streams when I have social calls though or decide to work later. It's arguably parasocial because I haven't moved on and I like chatting with her. So I'll give you that I am partially guilty, I suppose.
The memberships I bought because I used to record and leak membership content when it still was more acceptable to do here. I think it's stupid to have paywalled streams but I also understand that free content has to be funded somehow, so that was my way to say thank you and fuck you to everyone.

>>43957144
>Kronii
>'She'
>Cute
>Fun
But we're the schizos....? Ok...

>>43960244
I replied to this anon >>43958248 who made it about money which I disagreed with. If you don't care about what any of this means to me, why even engage with it?

>>43957144
NO DELIVERY

>>43961716
>friends
>relationship partner
What the fuck are you doing here? Go back to wherever you came from.

>>43961190
Your points I can mostly agree with. Yes, most media consumption is in some way parasocial. Again, "because that's the definition" is a red herring - present the definition verbatim and sourced if you want to be strict and technical about it, else I will just pretend to have the 2006 Encyclopedia of Children in front of me.
Either way, in that way I am parasocial too, sure. I think you even underestimate the pervasiveness because even if you don't have TV, you are going to be confronted with stories about your elders (when told about, not by them) or fictional people altogether and identify with them, even in your village wothout TV and radio people are necessarily parasocial because you will always talk about and judge people who are not in your vicinity. We only strongly associate it with mass media because the 1950s both of these became widespread is the first time people used the term "parasocial relationship" to refer to it.
Secondly, there are still varying levels of how emotionally invested you are, so yes, I do think there are some people who are not parasocial enough to feel disgust by anything a stranger could do "to" them. Wouldn't count myself to the ones above it - I don't know what Zillian or Spacey did nor do I care to look it up, but here on vt I err strongly towards calling every yab a nothingburger, financial and emotional investment notwithstanding - but I am sure some vtubers out there could hurt me and it's just luck plus a relatively loose form of engagement that this hasn't happened yet.

>>43963117
I have been here for more than 10 years, and most of my friends were on other boards too (mostly /tg/, bit of /vt/). You'd be surprised how lonely normalpeople can be. Then again, not really, judging by some other boards daily threads...

>>43957144
>Ooof ooowie my jaw
>Cancels streams for 3 weeks straight
>Collab with Vesper even though i haven't had my surgery? Sure
You are so beyond cucked its not even funny. She will ignore and not stream for her fans because of her surgery but jumps at any opportunity to suck cock

>>43957568
sure but making a thread about it? why not make a thread telling everyone how you're gonna go take a fat shit and enjoy wiping your ass? something you would do normally and in your own privacy?

>>43957144
no if you watch her you must want to date and fuck her and therefore are a cuck if she ever interacts with anyone you are not allowed to enjoy any streamer without wanting to sleep with them

>>43961716
>I used to record and leak membership content when it still was more acceptable to do here.
Better times.

>>43957928
Is that sort of like the parasocial relationship you're experiencing with this anon? Like you want to have some impact in this anon, any small impact will do. But they don't even see you post, they merely posted in the thread then left (Iike I'm doing). I guess that's more like your typical rejection than cucking.