/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>believing nijiniggers lies
Roru

>>43913276
amateur (You) talk subs, expert talk income.

Don't get me wrong, Holofag here, but you are pretty stupid.

>>43913276
indonesia is the third most popular country

>>43913398

>>43913639
You are right.
And even there Gura undoubtedly sells mech like crazy.
Suscriptions are an important metric that shows the interest people have on something.

>>43913276
>Subs > pushed by the algorithm > more chance of your product being shown to people
If anything, investors are the ones that care about subs the most.

Honestly the fact that Gura doesn't have a mansion and still has to eat poverty food tells you all you need to know about vtuber earnings. Kizuna AI is an exception because she's an actual true celebrity outside of the vtubersphere and therefore she's rich as fuck.

link to the image pls

shamelessly promoting my infographics here

>>43913661
populated*, ESL. No one likes that shithole.

>>43918665
Thai vtuber is that big? How come I've never heard of them, compared to Pinoy for example?

>>43913276
read your own chart you posted, retard

>>43913276
GO AME GO

>>43915972
Now post the Japanese rankings. Oh wait you won't because Gura doesn't even show up as a blip there.

>>43920004
Who's going to tell newfag?

>>43920466
Is this your way of coping chumfuck?

>>43913276
Investors believe vtubing is a dumb children's fad like fidget spinners. They are pumping and dumping and don't give a shit.

>>43913276
Obviously subs matter. Pretty silly to pretend they don't when the vtubers and corporations themselves put so much attention on them.

>>43920866
Yyou want JP market? Here it is with link. Gura popup parade placed 6th in AmiAmiJP January 2023 presells, the only other Holo in top 20 is Shion at 16th place. Any more to say?

https://hobby.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1476485.html

>>43913639
Subs is how they market to potential sponsors.

>>43920004
BTFO KEK >>43921685

>>43913276
Pekora dropped the ball here. We could have had all blue colored holos on top of their branches but noooooooo

>>43921685
>having to dig into fucking presales to find even an inkling of chumfuck
You're so fucking pathetic. Why isn't the Gura figure in the English Ami Ami ranking anywhere on the Japanese ranking? Your cope is absolutely palpable.

>>43916901
Or MAYBE that's just a part of the act so people don't stop donating retard

>>43922386
>Why isn't the Gura figure in the English Ami Ami ranking
it's all so tiring

>>43922386
t.One of the 3 last samurai

>>43922636
Learn to read chumfuck. That's the English ranking. Where's the Japanese ranking? Oh wait, she's nowhere to be found.

>>43922717
>Where's the Japanese ranking?
>>43921685
>https://hobby.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1476485.html
>use google translate
>January 2023 AmiAmi Figure Monthly Ranking

>>43922826
>still can't read
I'm talking about your daily, weekly monthly rankings here chumfuck. >>43915972
Try to keep up.

>>43922881
>he thinks AmiAmi has a daily, weekly, and monthly ranking like Tokyo Otaku Mode

>>43913276
Nobody believes Marine is the second most oopular hololive member. She sold several figures and they never even appeared in the rankings.

>>43913276
>incel NEET whose never held a job in his life trying to lecture others about corporate strategy

just stop before you embarrass yourself more than you already have

>>43920004
>>43922386
>>43922717
>>43922881
How far can he move the goalpost? I'm genuinely curious at this point.

>>43922881
>I'm talking about your daily, weekly monthly rankings here chumfuck
anon, that picrel is from TOM. You're demanding something that doesn't exist KEK

https://otakumode.com/shop/bestsellers?category=&term=daily&layout=a

>>43922993
https://product.amiami.jp/amiami/event/aft2022/
Marine's figure had the 4th highest sales in 2022. A figure coping chumkeks can only dream of.

>>43922993
If Gura is the biggest EN in merch, Marine is the biggest in JP

>>43923088
How far can chumkeks cope in their inferiority?

>>43923266
Gura is 1st this year and Marine only got 4th at best.

>>43923575
I didn't know chumkeks could time travel.

>Short answer
They are being gaslit about subs over sales
>Long answer
They are being shown the best and strongest talents the Cover has to hand with meta-data over potential exposure (Gura has 4 millions subscribers, ergo your product will be shown to at least 4 million people) along with a suppressed or downplayed financial revenue via superchat or memberships as "Secondary" to sales and direct sponsorships

>>43923363
Did you switch from saying chumfuck to chumkek to pretend you're a different person? You're clearly the only one trying to make an issue out of nothing in this thread.
Don't stop now though, I wanna see how much it takes for you to really embarrass yourself.

>>43923641
We can all see the other rankings posted in this thread

>>43923683
At least with Gura the hype seems to be justified .

Funny how Pekofags get real quiet when numbers that really matter(Merch sales) are posted.
Peko might have higher CCV but Gura is a true Icon.

>>43923122
>https://otakumode.com/shop/bestsellers?category=&term=daily&layout=a
gura still beats mori's new popup parade...

>>43923363
Kek, this faggot got mindbroke by gura merch sale, you loved to see it.

>>43925049
>Funny how Pekofags get real quiet
But it's the marinefags that are crying

>>43925049
who give a fuck, they are both Holos. Don't be an infighting fag.

>>43925049
>thinks Pekora doesn't top charts
Where do you think those ccv numbers come from?

>>43913276
Damn if Pekora was #1 then it would be a blue cunny sweep
Investors would request more cunny across the boards

>>43926725
Sure but not like this>>43915972

>>43927659
It absolutely is when you realise the top 4 added together is less than the coat of pekoras.

>>43927659
It's a 1.5 grand piece of merchandise. The fact that it belongs to that list at all is by far the most impressive thing in that picture,

>>43919028
big population, big weebs market, richer than ID dan poor pinoy

>>43928034
>>43928094
Certainly impressive but Gura ma'aged the same feat with three figurines one after the other and destroyed hololive's records with her dino plushie.
But to be able to compare fairly Gura would need a figurine with a similar price as Pekora's.

>>43916901
>Honestly the fact that Gura doesn't have a mansion and still has to eat poverty food tells you all you need to know about vtuber earnings.
Meanwhile, chicken casually flies across the globe half a dozen times a year, takes multiple holidays, stays in five star hotels with Indonesian quasi-royalty...
Almost like they have money and Gura just doesn't know how to spend it.

>>43928426
Yeah, who knows. My post was never really meant to be a dick measuring contest, was just replying to some retard claiming Pekora doesn't move merch.

>>43923088
Until it's in the science lab, it seems.

>>43913276
Holo vs holo is disgusting nijinigger
Not mention this is same shit different day with same thumbnail

>all this pekors talk
So we agree that Marine is not the face of JP and Cover's sheet is bullshit?

>>43929922
We agree that it's a pointless discussion because they're all specialized in different aspects of vtubing and Hololive is all the better because of it.
The picture focuses on subs because it's the easiest metric to sell to investors, and at this point in time Marine just happen to have the highest sub count in JP.

>>43913276
>subs matter to the nuimberfag investors who knows nothing about vtubers
>subs don't matter to the success or income of a talent after a certain point.
Know the difference

Investors are professional numberfags, you just feed them metrics to make them feel good.

>>43913276
Matsuri has more subs than Chloe. Does she make more money? Is she pushed by the algorithm more? No and no. Investors are people who have money and want to gamble, they may or may not know anything about a particular industry especially something as new as vtubing. If I had to make a presentation for dozens of random ojisans I'd use subs instead of ccv too regardless of what I actually thought.

>>43935851
This
And also other holos' subs are within tens of K from each other. Gura alone has a gap of 2million subs above the 2nd place, so she's the safest choice for investors.

>>43935851
>>43936095
COPE
>COPE
COPE
>COPE

>>43913276
NOOOOOO MUH CCV!!!!!

>>43923363
you are a pathetic faggot who simply can not see when he lost lmao

>>43913639
Actual investors opinions matter to cover more than the terminally online /vt/ user though…

I’m sorry anon you’re retarded…

>>43915972
The 1/7 figure outsold the pop up?? That’s cool but also very odd since gura hardly even acknowledged it

>>43923363
Your schizo cope is rather hilarious, keep doing it

>>43939018
Yep. That's why the speculation is essentially fucked up.

>>43919028
i was just having this convo in another thread but thai vtubing is a surprisingly large scene that doesnt get talked about basically at all on /vt/.

>>43913276
>4chan told me subs don't matter
Did you believe it?

>>43916901
Didn't she buy a mansion, though? I pictured the new place she bought to be a cross between The Beverly Hillbillies and Gummo.

>>43913276
Ran it through google MTL

>>43913276
>>43943170 (oops)
Ran it through google MTL

>>43916901
reatards like u existing is insane, gura lives like that because thats always how shes lived and shes not gonna change she makes fucking bank. look at the shit kiara posts on twitter retard. listen to how much shit ame mori and her buy. they dont need to work theyre set.

>>43929401
do you realize how easily holofans to be baited with this thread?

>>43916901
She does that because she's lazy
She makes like 25k+ a month after cuts and taxes

>>43913276
>4chan told me
lol

>>43943215
>Giant Gura

>>43943291
The fact that Kiara fly back and forth from Europe to Japan, went to Maldives last year, and recently Japan to Indonesia, and soon after Holofes she's going from Japan to Indonesia again with Mori chilling on Bali's beach, already tells you that they make banks.

>>43916901
how the fuck do you know she doesnt have one already?

>>43918665
Why use decimals as commas?

>>43913276
Vtubing is still relatively new and most investors don't really understand streaming all that well.
So they just see what they've been trained to see with other investments: Bigger number = better.

>>43951335
Anon Gura's numbers are high all around.
Not only her subs she sells merch like crazy too.
Marine too, I only don'y know hom much merch Kobo moves.

>>43939018
you are here, i am sorry you call yourself retard.

After reading this thread, i'm fairly confident noone here has ever read IPO documentation before this

>>43958196
I haven't.
But I'm curious, do you have expecience with them?
Do you have any interesting insight into this one?

>>43958329
It's my full time job, so I'd hope so. I don't like giving any kind of investment advice even if only anonymously so i'd perfer to keep mum hre. That said, it all looks rather standard. The only thing that stood out to me was percentage of assets being liquid. Cover is being far more conservative than I'd expect from a young company, especially one that's disruptive and in the tech sector.

Could just be a mixture of the economic climate with VCs being less willing to throw money at everything that breathes and japanese culture promoting fiscial conservancy in the first place, not sure, asain markets aren't my specialty

>>43958607
Intersting, also it's funny whenever someone that seems to actually be doing important stuff irl post here.
Do you think Cover did the right thing going partially public?

>>43928094
>daily
it got released so pre-orders came bursting in for the next couple of days?

>>43916901
>He actually believes what the whores tell them
KEK

>>43928124
>richer than id.

>look at thai gdp

>much kek, rumao even.

how is gura still #1 if she doesnt stream

You're not an investor, watch who you want.

>>43913276
Doesn't matter if it matters or not as all that matters is that it still matters to people like you as that matters more than if it matters or does not matter.

>>43961022
Possibly? IPOs are usually done to raise funds to further investments in the company itself, I'm not aware of any liquidity intensive porjects cover currently has anounced though.

So either cover has multiple projects going on behind the scenes, or they're preparing capital to find opportuities for some.

Regardless, it's a viechle for company growth so a good thing for fans

>>43913276
Investors are more retarded and easier to scam than you think, especially if it's a new industry like vtubers or esports.

>>43913276
>all water-themed chuubas
we did it reddit, we've cracked the code

>>43968956
why is blue and water so overpowered in the chuba bussiness?

>>43916901
Buying a mansion means buying a fuck ton of bills and taxes.

>>43967317
I hope they use that money wisely

>>43958196
No is just means is a bait thread and mods don't give a fuck like always.

>>43968956
Explains why despite being blue peko-chan got mogged by the horny pirate.

Ina would be up there too if she wasn’t so boring, she has such a sex model but the energy of a 70 year old woman and no sex drive.

>>43967317
>a good thing for fans
Depending on what they end up using the money. Niji comes to mind.

>>43945332
Much more than that. There's no way she only makes 300k a year

>>43964676
Because she appeals to shizophrenic pedophiles

>>43967317
They're building a massive third studio that's opening in April. That's the main reason they're trying to raise money.

>>43958607
>The only thing that stood out to me was percentage of assets being liquid
Isn't that because a large portion of their assets are in the form of preorder money for goods?