/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>43864131
>tranny management would ever let happen, destroy the "holopro" label
isnt that more on the jp main management rather tha the tranny management considering theyre the ones who wanted the holopro and homo integration?

If HoloEN is gone, who will we doompost next?

>>43864175
>>43864191
Wow, clearly this young lady is a Slytherin

>>43864175
Recent clip numbers
>>43801005
>>43801042
>>43801079
>>43801114
>>43801147

>>43864131
timing for posting that was bad but you're completely right

>Mumei has more people watching a rebroadcast than Fauna gets on a buff stream

>Mumei has more people watching a rebroadcast than Kiara gets on normal Karaoke

>>43864224
For some reason, retards think En management is in charge of when gens debut. En management isn't blameless, but the decision to debut homos came from the top.

>Mumei is just as cute as I remember, cuter even!

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*
>36,538: Kiara (Hololive)
>31,387: Tomoe (Nijisanji)
>30,601: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,968: Flare (Hololive)
>23,478: Kanata (Hololive)
>22,870: Iroha (Hololive)
>22,035: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,963: Ange (Nijisanji)
>19,766: Korone (Hololive)
>19,157: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,525: AZKi (Hololive)
>13,352: Subaru (Hololive)
>12,639: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,046: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,342: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,211: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,172: Necoma (Kemo-Refle)
>10,035: Nerumero (Indie)

don't forget ina sniffed moris pits live on stage

Ame is probably the only one who won't get gold on her showcase.

Tempiss status?

>>43864238
>Mumei has more people watching a rebroadcast than the current nijien stream andd 80% of nijijp streams
and some fags were mad when i called out that everywhere outside holojp is dying or stagnating

Reminder that HoloEN3 will happen and (you) will seethe.

>>43864175
I just realized that Sciamano's art looks like ai art, because ai art is heavily influenced by his.

>>43864175
I don't like this artstyle

What did we earn last thread?

ok, /#/ what the best full gen song?

>>43864231
VTA

>>43864341
Blue Clapper

>>43864289
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy
16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal
17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream
18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi
19) Ina (Hololive) - 63,181 - 3D showcase
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,942 - Minecraft
21) Okayu (Hololive) - 39,796 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
22) Okayu (Hololive) - 83,231 - 3D birthday live
23) Hinano (VSPO) - 33,449 - New outfit reveal
24) Mio (Hololive) - 79,968 - Hololive kindergarten collab
25) Kiara (Hololive) - 36,538 - 3D showcase

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Mio, Okayu, Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
41x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
19x: Pekora
4x: Marine
3x: Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Mio, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

I will not stop until Yagoo and his company get rid of EN and reinstate HoloCN

>>43864341
numbers doko?

>>43864273
because they stilll think jap managment can do no wrong even though 90% of the current problems in en goes straight back to them

Maybe holoEN isnt so bad afterall

>Mumei needed to go out of town
>getting Z's
Gura the mad woman, she is going to bring in Fauna/Mumei and JP instead of Myth

>>43864341
Seconding Blue Clapper

>>43864341
Brue Crapper

>>43864341
blue kekker

>>43864341
blue clapper

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/25 DAILY TALLY
36,538: Kiara (Hololive)
8,891: Ina (Hololive)
5,533: Maria (Nijisanji)
5,150: IRyS (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft
17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke
18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream
19) Ina (Hololive) - 63,181 - 3D Showcase
20) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,816 - Hitman
21) Enna (Nijisanji) - 15,314 - Birthday Concert
22) Rosemi (Nijisanji) - 7,116 - Mario Party (w/ Pomu, Fulgur, Doppio)
23) Amelia (Hololive) - 14,289 - Mario Party (w/ Ina, Baelz, IRyS)
24) Mori (Hololive) - 7,711 - Dead Space Remake
25) Kiara (Hololive) - 36,538 - 3D Showcase

>PER COMPANY
23x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mori
3x: Baelz, Fauna, Amelia
2x: IRyS, Gura, Ina
1x: Mumei, Kronii, Enna, Rosemi, Kiara

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
33p: Mori
25p: Amelia
24p: Fauna
21p: Baelz
20p: Ina
17p: IRyS
14p: Mumei
11p: Kiara
10p: Gura
7p: Kronii, Vox
6p: Uki
5p: Enna, Rosemi
4p: Vesper, Luca
3p: Magni, Finana
2p: Mysta
1p: Millie, Maria

>>43864341
Blue Slapper

>>43864341
Plasmagic Seasons

>>43864373
>kiara

>>43864238
Fauna isn't worth anything. She can graduate and HoloEN loses nothing of value and not even the girls left would care. Myth genuinely does not give a shit about her, even.

is Vshojo the 2nd best EN corpo

>>43864353
good luck considering b2 reversed its decision about hololive a couple of days ago

I want to play with Kanata's boobs while she plays video games. God her fallen angel design is just too fucking sex, i cant keep it in.

>>43864373
>Fauna

>>43864432
mm delicious seethe

>>43864404
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
36x: Hololive
18x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
6x: Amelia, Mori
5x: Mumei
4x: Baelz, Ina
3x: Mysta, IRyS, Fauna
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Gura
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Kiara

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
46p: Mumei, Ina
43p: Amelia
41p: Fauna
38p: Mori
33p: IRyS
29p: Baelz
26p: Vox
24p: Mysta
18p: Kiara
17p: Kronii
15p: Luca
13p: Selen
10p: Pomu, Gura
9p: Millie, Enna
8p: Ike, Finana
7p: Regis, Uki
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Rosemi
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria

Numbers

>>43864273
This is why I say "upper management"
You can't pin all the blame on EN management or omega when the homo love comes all the way from Yagoo

>>43864373
>IRyS

>>43864438
What boobs?

>>43864435
no that would be phase since according to vshojofags theyre not a corpo

>>43864341
CLAP YOUR HANDS
https://youtu.be/zQuFRSi5ebc?t=1441

>>43864421
I was converted after the girls talk stream

>>43864438
what boobs

Current EN streams

>>43864435
Apparently they're "not a corpo" so no they can't be

>>43864462
>yagoo
it comes from the original omega which is their cto whos name i forgot

>>43864458
Kanatan first army

>>43864341
HoloX

>>43864347
The only correct answer

>>43864499
how the fuck do you get lower than fucking aia

>>43864499
Owl difference

>>43864273
Okay, who is this nebulous "top" here? Yagoo? The board of directors? C-level executives? These people are all supposed to be about the growth and performance of the company right? Why the fuck would they approve and spend so much effort pursuing a market that was dead on arrival and is indirectly hampering the EN market? These are supposed to be the most financially concerned people in the company and they don't see the issue right now?

>>43864532

>>43864341
>All answer blue clapper
Was it just the sentimental value of the song because I listened to it for the first time in Botan birthday and it sound normal as fuck for all the shill it received

>>43864420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCJTJX1kXe4

>>43864499
kek

>>43864553
block game buff

>>43864499
>can't play the tranny killing game
>can play the nonce game
??? nijisanji is weird

>>43864499
>handcam streams are now 3view territory
the absolute state of nijien and their tactic of running buffs to the ground
maybe when everyone else is back they can actually try to put a challenge

>>43864499
Where are the fags who said this stream would fuck up her monthly average?

>>43864313
>>43864238
Enna got a higher peak viewership for her rebroadcast a month ago, discounting the Zs. Although she streamed it in the usual buff CN time. I'm also not sure if she announced it.

>>43864499
1 moom = 12 nijilivers

>>43864499
Why do people even play Tales on stream in the EN branches? Clearly nobody in the audience gives a fuck, is it some sort of girls nostalgia?

>>43864499
Is it really OK for things to just go on like this for nijiEN indefinitely? What's their plan I wonder

>>43864583
how new are you? Yagoo made it clear a long time ago that Homos are what he is passionate about

ok but why does gen1 have 3 blondes

>>43864583
Nigga I don't know why they do what they do. These are the same geniuses who thought Uproar was a good idea.

The holo cover song ranking is still only top 30, but the cutoff for 50 is about 45k. Is that still not good enough? Does it need to be 50k for it to return to top 50? I don’t get it, it feels pretty arbitrary to me

>>43864224
If JP wanted to do it you could expect EN management to lose their shit over it, potentially discouraging them from doing it.
>>43864241
I didn't really expect anyone to reply with anything more than
>lol too many words
I just wanted to say it.

>>43864499
Why is Whosemi coping IRyS?

>>43864640
i best see my boy bloop

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich
>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>IdolEN2
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

>>43864553

>>43864499
Dead market

>>43864583
>These people are all supposed to be about the growth and performance of the company right? Why the fuck would they approve and spend so much effort pursuing a market that was dead on arrival and is indirectly hampering the EN market?
I mean we literally dont know or have access to their numbers anon all we can do is conjecture and speculation based on ccv
But i still think prioritizing the homos was a mistake and will bite them in the butt especially when they have recently decided to focus on the foreign market

>>43864640
Why should we keep count of the superchats?

>>43864638
They should play the Trails series instead.

>>43864676
Anon.....thats maria. I know shes forgettable but pls.

>>43864499
I'm honestly kind of surprised Maria was allowed to play Nobeta, and I know she's played it before too. Feels like Niji have gone pretty hard into the anti-loli stuff, both in design and content.

>>43864698
Bloop live eating segment

>>43864699
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

>>43864698
Maybe but probably not, Gura doesn't think of bloop as her mascot. Her mascot is me.

>>43864644
You got a clip of that? Don't just quote the voices in your head. He's passionate about all cover corp talents cause he wants them all to be huge and make his company a fortune.

From King

>>43864499
Mogged by one (1) holo stream that’s a re-broadcast. Amazing

>>43864458
https://youtu.be/eauxuiG2Ah0?t=894

is this the moment Kanata started to ascend to 1st army status?

>>43864755
Excellent post King, as usual

>>43864708
Do you think all these raids into streams people don't give a shit about is hurting their box
Maybe holoEN had the right idea on this topic

Moomin/

https://poal.me/h0o2bz
https://poal.me/h0o2bz
https://poal.me/h0o2bz

>>43864453
You can't even argue. She only collabs with Ina, Mori, or Ame in a group setting. She basically forced herself into the girls talk collab, and she only collabs with Gura because Gura probably feels bad for her. They both admitted they barely even talked

>>43864583
>These people are all supposed to be about the growth and performance of the company right?
>StarJP
>UPROAR!
>Tempus
>Pulling out of China

>>43864595
There's not a lot of full gen original songs tbf. If we're talking about group performances though, it's probably this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGp1Q3aH_Bk&t=3612s

>>43864175
Who is this semen demon???

What's the point of EN 3 anyway? HoloEN has already deviated so much from Holo JP next batch will be full of Homo Collabers. This hobby is ruined

>>43864633
Huh thats pretty weird considering that people try to shill her as the vsinger for nijisanji and yet she is very close to mumei
> Although she streamed it in the usual buff CN time
ah it makes sense now she just used the mainland "EN" buff time

>>43864831
Me

>>43864755
Based KING gracing us during this trying times

>>43864799
At least 1 anon (me) hate auto redirects

>>43864717
Someone asked and I already did it for holoX

>>43864856
Until Gura Graduates there is still hope. That said HoloEN scouts probably will choose a bunch of holo beggars and wonder why they flopped.

>>43864753
He's not a streamer.
Holostars was his project. He was the branch manager. He spoke to them everyday. He played video games with them on stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE3u-kmn0ug

This song moomer is singing has 1.99 billion views on youtube

>>43864675
EN management cant do shit when it comes to the decisions of the higher ups though so them losing shit would be meaningless
The fact that the stream ban is company wide and not just branch wide and added to the fact that main management has the final say for debuts indicates that the main push for homos comes from up top and not middle management

>>43864669
Yagoo wants the boybands back.

>>43864948
So, no source? Got it.

>OMG MUMEI IS GETTING NUMBERS
I'd be very disappointed if she's not

>>43864943
That’s the point, they want homobeggar to also succeed
It’s just greed from them, they want both half of the cake

>>43864295
Why not?

>>43864708
I’m sorry, but I genuinely can’t believe there are people in NijiEN who are so far down the totem pole that they get raided and STILL don’t break 1k ccv

>>43864633
Enna's rebroadcast is higher but her original was also much higher
From what I've seen rebroadcasts usually get around half the original CCV

>>43864985
Do you think im wrong? That's pretty telling.

Oh yeah, did the NijiEN's 3D debuts make the board faster than /pol/?

>>43864880
It's also funneled by Vox's asmr. The time between Mori and the current rebroadcast is around 30 minutes. Enna usually gets some good reboardcast numbers. One in September got 12k.

>>43864983
This Karaoke rebroadcast will probably go for at least 12 hrs. She said she wanted to put it out there for people who always had to miss them due to time zones. The number will drop a lot before it's over.

>>43864373
>Gura

>>43864819
>Pulling out of china
>bad for growth
ruru
pulling out of china was the best move they could have made considering they would have antagonized a lot of western viewers by supporting them.
Just look at the current state of Nijien who went all in with china and you can see it was and still is the best decision.

Daily reminder.

>>43865027
Tbf that asmr looks like it did complete ass so idk how much it really funneled

>>43864753
>>43864985
Absolutely retarded EOP newfaggotry.

>>43864989
>>43864964
because upper management is the one pushing for homo beggars

>>43865095
>Blue cunnies 1 and 2
What does this mean? Will we get another Blue cunny for EN3?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&watch?v=Lq9eqHDKJPE
marine

>>43864964
This made me curious about Korone said "it's ok" to overlap Mori by management
Maybe it's because it's technically this not Mori's first full fledged 3D stream, the difference between personal management or upper management, or Cover wants to roll back the "no overlap" rule in the future.

>>43865014
I think he wants them to succeed because the company will make money if they do. No one running a business wants their projects to fail, that would be retarded. I think it was a bad call to open stars EN but I don't think upper management made that call for anything as retarded as passion or a hobby.

>>43864799
Given how raiding in tempiss and ruined their funnels, I'd say yes
Any "box" due to constant raiding is artificial

>>43864755
I'LL BE BACK!!

>>43865066
>pulling out of china was the best move they could have made considering they would have antagonized a lot of western viewers by supporting them.
So where are all those "Western viewers"? Because I sure as shit didn't saw a lot of them today

>>43865051
>people who always had to miss them due to time zones
Most of her karaokes are in this exact time zone period. If she wanted to do that, she should have started at like 10am EST.

>>43865162
Oh my god, I got Sparks'd! Now I gotta take a knee, chug a soda, and listen to the whole thing!

>>43865162
Fucking hell.
>Say it's Marine
>Clearly says Sparks in the title
>Click it because fuck it why not stream Sparks
>It's not Sparks

>>43865196
>So where are all those "Western viewers"? Because I sure as shit didn't saw a lot of them today
I mean considering the state of nijien >>43864499
there are still a lot more western viewers than the current cn viewer market.

>>43865182
>This made me curious about Korone said "it's ok" to overlap Mori by management
Are >we even sure if it's "Okay to overlap", or "Ok, I will check with management"?
Consider this thread's understanding of Japanese is just as good as actual English ala 0

>>43865196
Right here bro >>43865095

>>43865183
Doesn't matter what you think. It is what it is. A passion project that regardless of how unsuccessful it is, will be continued because he wants it.

>>43865111
Don't take your meds, your seethe is beautiful.

Kanata announcement later for gold?

>>43865095
Mori lost a lot of hardcore fans

>>43863635
Less dead than you think.

>>43864341
Interact fantasia

>>43865318
We got Mori 3D bro

>>43865281
So they don't watch stream? Then what's the point?
That'll be what normal /#/ say, but Imma be honest and provide a hot take: This is actually more helpful than showing up on stream, because it's harder to bot merch purchase

>>43865182
Wouldn't surprise me if they conveniently decided that the no overlap shit "just wasn't worth it" only after Uproar got fuck all benefit from it

>>43864372
She can't, Mumei have not had her 3D debut yet.

>>43865206
Then she'd have to stop it for Mori and restart it.

>>43865182
She still stopped the stream and restarted, so I’m assuming there is still a ban

>>43865268
Compare to 2021-early 2022, no, no there are not

>>43865275
I'm pretty sure what the post actually claimed she said was "if you want to watch Mori's showcase, fuck off and watch it then"
So...

>>43865364
It would have been better to never do it and undoing it would be smart, but now they've set a precedent and have to tread carefully to avoid the appearance of favoritism. Which they totally had when making the decision, they're not fooling anyone, but they gotta at least try to appear impartial. Maybe reset it at some neutral date far from any particular 3d debut.

>>43865331
>A month ago
Latechama

>>43864789
>Miko 222k vod
>Kanata 293k vod
>Pekora 280k Vod
That Kanata vod got less CCV than both Miko and Peko christmas karaoke sandwiched in the middle but got more vod views. Yep people went and replayed the PekoMiko over and over again.

>>43865358
We have long accept that ENfan are simply not streamwatchers and you can’t force them to

....

>>43865290
I don’t understand what you’re getting at? It’s been pretty well known how much Yagoo supports holostars

>>43865466
>Thinking it'd change much in a month.
Retard.

>>43864372
you forgot the part where gura hates mumei and has been actively avoiding her for months now

aggggggghhhhhhhh
this inaccurate moom ccv is infuriating
aggggggghhhhhhhh

>>43865415
but we are in 2023 anon where the cn market is dead in the water and not 2021 or 2022

>>43865461
They have to choose wisely for who they are gonna lift the companywide stream ban for

reminder that since irys got a new model, remiu now has the worst model in big corpo en tubing

Queen of vtubing

>>43865501
nijichinks in shambles

>>43865501
Man they fell so low that they have to do Raid streams.

>>43864789
Even Towa and fucking Nene get high numbers in this time slot. Stop being a retard.

>>43865431
Yeah, but this thread's claims are as good as the voices in my head

>>43865479
I wonder if she upset both of them doing so

Don't get me wrong i like matsuri and towa, but i don't need a full EN gen of them.

>>43865519
There isn't many of them but homos brought in some newfags and they're pretty much the most clueless people on this board

>>43865415
The western boom for holos has lasted longer than the CN boom for niji, and that boom only benefited their "EN" branch
The western audience ("America" in picrel) still provides substantial revenue for Cover

>>43865501
grim

>>43865542
what do you mean inaccurate ccv?

>>43865532
Gura's actively been avoiding streaming for months now so that applies to everyone

I feel like people using "he has finally recharged his social battery" are subtly shitting on vesper

towa should've been a vsinger

>>43865415
Stop living in the past. Cover mad the the right decision in pulling out of the retarded western market considering it did fuck all to nijien who went all in except provide drama and harassment.

>>43865414
Because her chat was getting filled with Mori 3D comments, not only from JP but also from EN comments. It's not about it being a rule or not, its just something that the Myth girls have been looking forward to since forever and Korone overlapping it was quickly leaving a bad taste on everyone's mouths.
Sometimes it's not about it being in the rules or not, it's just being polite about your kohai's special day and being there to support her. It's what this whole Holobox thing revolves around after all.

>>43865568
I am now blood-boilingly angry and will proceed to spend the rest of the thread posting about how much I hate Gura and how she has lived rent free in my head for the past 2 and a half years.

>>43864573
What's the reference of this? I keep seeing it in your split.

>>43865595
Yeah but we can only numberfag this shit once per year

>>43865542
>"inaccurate ccv"
we just call that "ccv"

>>43865608
Definitely, it's just a subtler way to make a YABBA DABBA DOOO!! joke
His fault for making such a dumbass excuse anyway

>>43865461
At this point they will just keep it.they only have 12 girls to get a 3D "debut" stream and 8 boys. New gens are very rare

there has never been a good post in /#/ with a pic of your oshi attached

>>43865644
and its gonna be worse for anyone focusing on the cn market considering that xi is supposedly contemplating on another non zhang stream ban and earlier stream curfews

>>43865586
towa is a sex machine, she fucked kanata, watame, botan, peko, laplus,vspo girls, fauna and mumei

>>43865698
Who's your oshi? I'll make a good post with her image attached.

>>43865632
>being polite about your kohai's special day
How special is it to Mori out of everyone in EN? She has done everything with her 3D that none of the other girls have been been able to do without relying on Ame's janky setup

>>43865728
watame

>>43865358
Some of the anons here have gotten severe numbersrot. I'm glad the Cover IPO pulled the thread somewhat back to reality... For a few days.

>>43865519
I know he supports them, if he didn't he'd be a shitty ceo. I also know he likes the idea of them for some reason, it's just retards in the thread thinking are it's purely some hobby. There's no way cover is pushing stars out of the goodness of their hearts. Even the CEO answers to someone. It's a failed project but it's stupid to think anyone is doing this for some emotional reason.

>>43865728
wamy

As someone who watches Vtuber since Kizuna AI, I love how people keep parroting about the "Holobox" and "Muh walled garden" like some sort of genius 5D-chess gigabrain move from YAGOO and not something he and his company was forced into for a year and a half. Like yes, you kinda have to play with yourself when the entire industry pretty much excommunicado your ass because some retard latched on something you said on stream

aqua is the best holo btw

>>43865817
Gura pls stream tomorrow

>>43865698
mario party collabs are underrated

>>43864347
>>43864379
>>43864381
>>43864388
>>43864389
>>43864417
>>43864490
>>43864551
absolutely incorrect cause it's not a full gen song
Gen 5 will never have a full gen song


>>43864420
>>43864546
>>43865342
actual competitors
Non-Fiction and Area 15 song also fall into the proper category, but I think Kiseki Knot takes it by the end of the day due to circumstances, writing and for the most part (Coco can't sing, sorry), the song quality itself

>>43865804
>As someone who watches Vtuber since Kizuna AI
i think you mistakenly wrote kizuna ai instead of iluna anon

>>43865743
The fact that this time she's doing it alongside her "FRIENDS" might be a factor.

New peak for Mumei

>>43865358
Merch-wise, Fauna is the strongest council

What is Korone doing?

>>43865840
I really really really liked the sockpuppet meta from Kiara.

>>43865804
And hololive is now better for it while the industry itself is stagnating and or reclining

>>43865817
Based.

>>43865804
Whether they were forced into it or it was a galaxy brain plain is irrelevant, what matters is that it worked and is the envy of the industry.
Everyone in the vtubing sphere salivates at just a taste of the Hololive box, see all of those NijiEN girls chasing Kiara around like puppies, or all the ones sucking up even to Holo-adjacent talents like Stars to bask in a fraction of reflected glow

wamys tits are bigger on her 3d model

>>43865847
(You) are the mistake

>>43865275
I watched it, she stopped to ask management and waited a decently long time to hear back, the answer she got was that it's fine for her to keep streaming so she did
Then a few minutes later she changed her mind saying that actually she wants to watch Mori's stream, up to you if you believe her or not

>>43865889
she likes the game too much, she watches the dev commentary

>>43865891
man the difference in hair rigging between nene and lamy

>>43865942
the answer she got from her manager was fine but she probably got a call from the higher ups

>>43865842
Nice post beech. Didn't you graduate school? Hopefully yes. That means you're no longer a member.
A full gen song is all of the members. Blue Clapper has all of the members.

>>43865889
>2 (TWO) MALES ON SCREEN
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME ANONS

does nene have autism

>>43865889
>watches dev commentary after 20 hours of game
Amo el señor Koro

>>43866011
>whites
>males

I am sorry I have to ask, does anybody know why Marias Graph looks like that?? I did not find a NijiEN raid.

>>43865988
Like I said, it's up to you, but I do agree, it seemed to me like she stop to read from discord before changing her mind

>>43865322
those are numbers as her stuff released, it's been catching up by now

>>43866011
You're just shitposting but im unironically not intersted in watching the holos react to developer interviews.
I'm just sticking around because its surely almost time to say good bye anyway

>>43866036
it was a nijien bot raid

>>43865893
>>43865924
Eh, EN is not "The industry"
Although, if anything, keeping the walled garden approach but doesn't give it enough supplement is what killing EN

>>43865804
I don't think Cover are geniuses
They're just lucky and competent enough to become the top dog

>>43865501
this is just sad...
Riku what are you doing

>>43866036
her waiting room got raided but the people that raided her waiting went away

>>43866036
Someone probably raided the waiting room

>>43866036
Waiting room raid, it can come at any point before the stream starts

>>43865575
>this time slot
>starting at 1300
retard, how about you look at vrabi first before spouting nonsense. out of all nene's streams in January there's only 1 time she streamed earlier than 1500

i am nenes favorite husband, btw

>>43865991
yes, you're a former student/alumni
Blue Clapper is a NePoLaBo song, not HoloFive
bad luck, shit happens

>>43866036
Uhhhhhh
The same thing happened with IRyS' Nobeta stream yesterday. Maybe Youtube flags the game? I checked for other raids, the only raid I saw was Kyo -> Aia unless Selen raided her room.

>>43865892
I don't, not after the first stream when it already wore out its welcome

>>43866080
They're definitely not based on the legal problems that they've death with in the past. But at the very least they learned from them, and got lucky that none of those yabs that they did ended up hurting them permanently (otherwise Mio wouldn't be with us today)

>>43866078
>Eh, EN is not "The industry"
JP outside of HoloJP is declining or in a rut anon
>but muh record breaking nijijp event streams
thats an even bigger evidence of a decline considering that a bunch ofmedia which was wrestling, mtv and cable tv was doing the exact same behavior while they were on their recline where events got bigger audiences while regular shows sank even lower and lower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMjidvLDC8
gold candidate

Wait so Korone planned to overlap Mori at the beginning?

>>43866080
You know who is genius though?

i really want the next bird holo to be a skeksis

Ooh

>>43866203
Didn't ask.

>>43866184
>bad luck, shit happens
For you maybe, I don't know who the fuck you're even trying to say is missing.
Blue Clapper has all the members of 5th gen.

>>43866234
she got ok from her manager to continue and overlap then changed her mind to watch mori.

>>43866233
50k

>>43866218
As if this thread can actually calculating real numbers anon
Let's be real, as long as there's big CCV to shitpost about, it doesn't matter that much

>>43866296
all the remaining members, yes

I love how appreciative korosan to video games

>>43866184
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/talents/
Aloe is not considered an alumni, only Coco and Sana. NePoLaBois the full gen, same with the 4 members of Fantasy

>>43865501
Holy shit fucking punkolopi got more ccv while doing a raid sponser streme the actual state

>>43866331
Exactly, all of the members.

>Kanata 22k on dark souls
what the heck, how are her numbers this big without leeching off Coco

>>43865804
>some sort of genius 5D-chess gigabrain move from YAGOO
Stop being a jealous bitch, many in this thread talked extensively of the circumstances that led Holos to have to rely on their own content to survive, and it was not just the chinkout but also something that preceded it: suddenly finding themselves needing to secure permission for every piece of content they wanted to feature on stream.

>>43865501
More proof that niji EN gets more sponsorships than holo EN
you know nijinigs will include this in their nijicope tallies

>>43866328
dont need to actually calculate real numbers when you were actually there when the recline of cable tv and mtv happened

>>43865842
kys

https://youtu.be/f_Xrtg5ZDl4
I miss top 50…

>>43866204
Downside: Mio not getting fired has prevented her from becoming my wife.

>>43865501
>nijien are so down in the dumps that they fucking accepted a raid shadow legends shilling stream
fucking hell

>>43866350
>>43866357
I'll take the opinion of talents over Cover's corpospeak any day
they made it clear that Gokisei will always be HoloFive, but the show must go on

>>43866080
>and competent
ebin

>>43866407
Hasn't she said something along the lines of
>If you want to marry me then do it
?

NijiEN's ARlive is closer than you think

>>43866448
Cover is the one that made blue clapper. They say it's a full gen song

>>43866473
200K 200K 200K

>>43866360
Idk anon, you tell me

>>43866188
Yeah the only possible Raid I see is Selen but it is more than half an hour before,
so it is actually Youtube or Selen did not raid the six other streams but a waiting room

>>43866473
huh wonder if had something to do with the rrat in jp about zaion being the scapegoat fo the jp clique in order for them to have the concert once again

YABBA DABBA DOO
>>43863731

>>43866406
Format is boring on the whole. The rankings don't change enough.

>>43866360
>without leeching off Coco
Because it's always been a meme.

>>43866384
Wasn't YT and Twitch unironically killed those?
So unless you can somehow kill YT (Lol) and/or Twitch (GOD I HOPE SO) ...

>>43864583
>>43864714
The retards think that western weebs aren't at all like Japanese idol otaku when that couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, they're more tolerant of males, but tolerance doesn't mean welcome.

Women are a non factor in this market as already proven.

>>43866218
>JP outside of HoloJP is declining or in a rut anon
It’s the lowest bar to clear but NijiJP median and averages are up from mid 2021 too.
For all the shitposts about Ranunculus and Voltaction, they’re doing way better than the low ranked from Niji first few waves and that pushed their numbers up

>>43866470
Guess I'm going to Japan.

>>43866541
Get holos to release more (good) song covers then

>>43866555
>Wasn't YT and Twitch unironically killed those?
no they were dying way before twitch and yt were established enough but they did deliver the coup de grace along with netflix and piratebay

>>43866360
Because she has long surpassed coco

>>43866466
"competent enough"
Just compare them to their competition, especially gamebu and upd8

>>43866579
Good luck. She definitely deserves to be married. Maybe to me instead of you though.

>>43866618
Coco was never powerful anon...

>>43866580
I actually would argue that Holo are releasing new covers and song too often. The output is fucking insane these days
Yet only a few “make it”

>>43866527
what is the original Vesper post people think that might be an edit?

This Radio concept is actually really good. The simply innovation of removing the talking bits...
is Mumei actually a content genius? And with maybe half an hour of programming, you can stream
a random playlist of songs every time instead of looping one super long rendered video. To keep
things fresh.

>>43866473
I beleib

>>43866576
>The retards think that western weebs aren't at all like Japanese idol otaku when that couldn't be further from the truth.
Anon, actual fucking Otakus are still the runt in Japanese society

>>43866650
The one that is not hidden by a blackblock

>>43866578
>It’s the lowest bar to clear but NijiJP median and averages are up from mid 2021 too.
considering they had big events it would be more troubling that they didnt
>Ranunculus and Voltacion
depends on how low you bar is for doing way better especially when Salome flopped and nippleguys incline resulted from him cannibalizing axia audience

head wings are ugly

>>43864640
Grim

>>43866527
Wait that was real? Why didn't whoever posted the first screenshot insist on it instead of letting everyone claim that it's fake?

>>43866676
would be funny if they dropped all thee boys for the concert due to how dead their market is and how it would be a waste of money to feature them

gorb gumbus member's karaoke tomorrow

Gura stream soon

>>43866772
i know how to edit it to make it look real too

Ok, tomorrow Gura cripple gold

Gura karaoke stream tomorrow this is not a drill

>>43866772
supposedly in a t3 membership post

>>43866631
I have different view on things. They were equally retarded and incompetent. It's just that YAGOO lucked out so much he managed to get Fubuki and bunch of hard working girls that withstood all the assfucking from early Cover.

GURA KARAOKE BABY

>>43866645
This
The scene is already oversaturated
Mori alone already dumped 40+ covers/orisongs last year
They should really slow down and concentrate on higher quality MVs and group collabs ala Ifuudoudou

>>43865804
The Holobox exists from before the chinkout. Its origin is usually considered to be Sankisei's self-funneling.
You're right about Yagoo though, Hololive's success was built by the talents.

>>43866658
It's a decent idea objectively but it's not appealing to me, I like the live aspect of karaoke and think that the girls should do more even though I watch it all the time.

>>43866852
comparring the assfucking from cover to the assfucking the other companies gave their streamers including nijisanji is like night and day

Member or public karaoke?

>>43866882
tell her to do it after her 3D debut, i want dino gura karaoke

Fucking members only bullshit fuck off Gura how about you actually make it look like your channel isn't fucking dead

>>43866772
No one wants to pay 10 or 100 dollars to find out.

I won't cease to believe.

>>43864482
True but then there's flavr

>>43866908
members

>>43866618
>>43866642
Hahahaha no
Everyone in the vtubing scene knows who Coco was. She was a pioneer, a trailblazer, a leader, and she still is.
No one except HoloJP watchers knows who the fuck Kanata is. She has never accomplished anything of note. She will never be a leader. She'll always just be a supporting cast member. Good to have but ultimately replaceable.
Don't even dare to compare her to Coco.

>>43866908
Unclear but I think member's, she posted it on her membership. Traditionally, in the old days, Gura would do most of her karaokes behind membership.

>>43866827
hiding in members doesn't qualify sorry

>>43866852
>equally retarded and incompetent
For fuck sake, upd8 didn’t just squander Kizuna, their management pulled retarded shit like having Nobuhime to wear an earpiece so they could direct her content while she performed.

They were big equally retarded

>>43866906
true, but the incompetent part still stands

>>43866827
It's a members stream, retard.

>>43866962
You can stop sucking that dragon tail now

>>43866946
I'm willing to burn $10 but not fucking $100

*ahem*

>>43866962
>No one except HoloJP watchers knows who the fuck Kanata is
this fucker thinks no one knows about kanacoco

What is the most competently managed vtuber company right now?

>>43866981
>>43866981
NYOOOOOOOOO
Wish the YT bug is still there so we can check the ccv on members stream.

Is Gura a saboteur?

>>43866036
is there a restriction on the video? cause I can see a wait room being culled from actual minors or places where the game is flagged

>>43866962
>was
Key word. She was washed up before she did her graduation tour

>>43867032
YABBA DABBA DOO!

>>43866301
There's a timestamp about it on the usual (stream highlights timestamp), she checks in with management, seems to get the ok and says (you can go watch it or watch both, it's ok), plays for 3 mins, then decides to watch the 3D Calli stream it instead. It's just theory crafting but concidering Korone is pretty popular at the EN fanbase and higher-ups potentially realized that that Korone might risk taking "X" amount of viewers from Mori's 3D and lose out on a ton of Merch shilling (plus the Blue ray and other Mori music related stuff) it wouldn't surprise me if they quickly called Korone's manager and asked her to put a stop to her stream (at least for an hour)
I think it was the right call to do that to avoid some potential awkwardness that could have developed between JP and EN, since a lot of fans live with the illusion that everyone in Holo somehow knows and likes eachother (the ones that don't dig deeper) and Korone streaming during Mori's 3D would have raised some eyebrows in that illusion some people believe in. But that's just my theory on it.

>>43867021
Careful, he's going to call you le zhang for not pretending Coco was vtubing Jesus.

>>43866527
I forgot that Vesper was one of the greedy fucks that puts out different messages on different member tiers

>>43866962
I sense a lot of butthurt in this post.

https://twitter.com/y_e_j_j_i_/status/1629358157905678336
Ina art getting some good twitter numbers

>>43866992
i mean suits are never competent even to this day with modern suits like aviel being a retard with his HE and now EN branch and Fish squandering or not controlling pippa depending on your point of view
Lets not forget about the current state of Nijisanji, Wactor, Tsunderia etc
Only reason why he is praised so much is because he is the least incompetent

>>43867032
a britbong made that

>>43866641
Guess we're fighting in Japan.

Time to start building to holofes4. Any other holos changed their twitter icon?

What's this flintstones yabba dabba doo shit anyway? Some gay /mans/ meme?

I am marrying choco

>>43867052
>>43867130

>>43867052
It's still Cover.

>jwu
>Mori 42k
told ya she's washed up kek

>>43867099
he's a falseflag, i know because the way he writes

>>43867151
The Rodeo in Tokyo.
I look forward to the bout.

>>43866681
You say that as if anyone other than otakus in the west watch Hololive.

>>43867197
kfpseethe

>>43866904
I'm just talking about it within the context of filler content during breaks, not as regular content

>>43866940
Her members have been starving for content
Remember that the only thing Gura has ever shilled for herself is memberships and merch

>>43867162
where can i get that EXPO frame?

So how the fuck did Ina get 60k+? Where are the other 20k viewer when Mori do her showcase?

>>43867172
>collab with the boys? I sleep
>collab with the girls? YABADABADOO!
It’s a meme, not a positive one and coming from their own side

How did you guys survive Mori's cringefest?

>>43867172
spic from /dbs/ spamming it in the catalog when vesper was in the list of the kureiji arcade

>>43866940
Did she relapse?

>>43867264
Ah yeah. It's better than other things.
During her break a few months ago, Fauna uploaded daily shorts.
I appreciated the gesture but I didn't watch them.

>>43867172
Fred Flintstones jumps up and spins his feet all comically while screaming yabba dabba doo when excited, it's a funny image to attach to old man Vesper chasing young hot Holo collabs

https://youtu.be/f_Xrtg5ZDl4
https://youtu.be/f_Xrtg5ZDl4
https://youtu.be/f_Xrtg5ZDl4
Weekly song ranking

>>43867268
I think this member karaoke is also making up that fucked up valentines stream.
iirc Gura said the myth collab is a sudden drop so she had to cut it short

Did anycolor lost a lot of money with most of their profitable nijiEN members on strike or on break?

YABA DABBA DOO DON'T MIND IF I DO!

>>43867172
It's a forced meme about Vesper.
It probably started at >>42092765 or >>42094637

>>43867216
Well, that's the fucking issue isn't it
We WANT people outside of the small Vtuber audience to watch them
No, I'm not talking just Holoive, fucking everyone
Like, fuckers /here/ make the bolt claim that people hate Twitch-style dramas and stale content, and yet I don't see they go to the alternative

>>43866962
>shitting on Kanata
kys, no real Tatsunoko would ever do that

>>43867289
Mori was actually based for once. Gave her friend a final stage with an audience size that they would never imagined

>>43867172
> kronii has surgery
> a collab with vesper?
YABBA DABBA DOO

>>43867342
There was NOTHING sudden about that myth collab. LITERALLY NOTHING. people were talking about it for UP TO A WEEK before it happened, so if she said that she's a bald faced liar.

>>43867280
My bold theory, so take it as a grain of salt.
Ina goes first = novelty buff
If Moona was not the first ID doing the showcase, she won't be able to reach 80k even with JPs funnel.

>>43867369
Why do we want that?

>ojou 19th place
IT'S FUCKING OVER

>>43867339
Indochads I'm tired of winning...

>>43867407
seething

>>43867421
>Asking this in /#/

>>43867407
The date might not be a sudden drop, but the time can be though.
Either way, it's good she wants to do another one to make up for it, a win for not being grey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMjidvLDC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMjidvLDC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMjidvLDC8
Gold contender?

>>43866940
She needs to milk those simps. Only paying customers get content, please understand

>>43867497
?
I want the people suited to the hobby to watch.

>>43867369
>We WANT people outside of the small Vtuber audience to watch them
No I don't. Shut the fuck up retard. I specifically want most westoids away.

>Gura the numbers are low, go do a karaoke or something and shill the showcases

Will Mori slip?
https://manifold.markets/VtuberNumbers/will-calliope-mori-get-the-highest

>simp

Mori chances for gold today?

>>43867242
I mean congrats for beating the absolute fucking runt of EN. But Mori used to be the second biggest Vtuber in the whole world and I remember the predictions for her 3D being around 50-80k.
>muh Mori has a lot of pull during big events

>king 11th
damn

>>43867560
50-50. Suisei is returning and Marine is still cooking

>>43867407
Gura? Lying to her fans to try and hide her laziness and alcoholism? Say it ain't so!

>>43867516
>zatsudan
>30 mins only
nah, golds are reserved for utawakus
t.hoshiyomi

>>43867560
I think we should start using prediction markets to get hard numbers
like >>43867552
might be fun anyway

>>43867369
The whole West right now is a fucking clown world especially in Murica and we don't want any of that.

>>43867560
I say 3.5/1 maybe 4/1 odds