/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I don't understand how someone can support a horndog that dropped out of all gen/branch collabs and milestone streams including the ones that included JPs but then makes an exception to collab with women. The guy is pathetic.

Let's see some screen caps. I'm not clicking on his link and giving him a view.

>see one guy copy pasting replys
>check his channel
>a fucking deadbeat

Finally, some good fucking yabs

>>43831446
Sunkcost fallacy for all of the "kino kino based based kino based kino kino based" deflection spam

why the fuck is it so hard for you guys to not break containment?

>>43831446
homowatchers are all grifter cucks who want to see HoloEN ruined

>dumpsterfire
Why do you lie OP? I expected a fire and not a shitty little tism from some angy clockfag + messages telling vesper to ignore the annoying clockfag

>>43831363
2 people

>>43831446
Vespies are losers who literally think "H-HE'S JUST LIKE ME FR FR!" so they self-insert as him. That's why they call him "based" for what he does because "they'd do the same in his situation".
It's not cuckoldry if you pretend to be Vesper when watching him fuck Kronii, you see.

They unironically overdosed on the whole "brotuber" meme so hard that they now think it's based to act like a sex pest.

Man, drama is delicious when it doesn't affect me

>>43831596
>getting shitposted by 2 people because he laughed at chat spammers is now a "yab"
Holy fuck this board is so desperate for Holo drama after Niji and Vshojo fucking blowing themselves up

>>43831585
same

>>43831363
>Richard Bogart
Is this THE yabba dabba doo guy? Types exactly like him.

>>43831652
Cu no one gives a fuck about those small shitty companies. This is a holoboard always will be

>>43831363
I'm not hating him, I'll just stop watching.

>>43831647
i cant believe you put the effort into writing that stuff haha hope your discord group is doing well. you're being tracked

Is this really the best /#/ has to offer these days? this peddling? this is your yab?
what a disgrace of a board

>>43831585
>>43831673

>>43831446
People who support shitting on cgdct enjoyers and the Hololive audience will follow him.

>>43831647
>It's not cuckoldry if you pretend to be Vesper when watching him fuck Kronii
You truly are mindbroken, it's just a collab lmao

>>43831785
seething

>>43831785
I love how you troons always have a meltdown when I type this shit because you know it's 100% the truth.

>>43831853
Seems like they're genuinely either annoyed or confused with his behavior.

>>43831853
Yabba meme is popular on YouTube too?

I liked Vesper New Vegas a lot and then he does this shit. I will stop watching him and cancelling my membership until he unironically improves himself

>>43831853
>>43832030
>Even the normalfags are noticing that he drops out of all important branch collabs but shows up to every stream with girls in it
KEK

>>43832030
This "drama" has been going on for months among the fujosisters, but was basically contained to twitter and /vt/
I guess that one containment breaking spammer and his Mori-like response finally gave people the motivation to go ham in his comment section.

>>43831363
4 people with multiple account and liking each other ass? classic. wait for someone here to track you down and probe your asshole just like your beloved vox akuma lmao

>>43832087
No, all these people are containment breakers. Except for Yoru, she's a yume who's actually upset that vesper won't collab with his genmates anymore.

>>43831853
>greyfags except for one and he's not even mad
who cares OP, you're a faggot for even monitoring his comment section. GSH homobeggar

>>43831647
Pretty much fucking this. It's why I hate brotuberfags so much. They'll excuse any type of shitty behavior as long as they can be annoying hetshippers.

Brotuber they said. Hahahaha

>>43832087
There were some youtubers that made recent videos about /vt/ and the yabba dadda doo stuff was included

>>43832316
>>43832330
>sisters are seething
>HAH he's not a brotuber!!
What kind of mental illness do I need to develop to make this connection

>>43832269
There's one gray that's mad but he's more mad about him responding to the antis than the collabs

>>43831363
>>43831853
so this is the power of holoyabs... not impressed.

>>43832346
Jesus christ just nuke this place already

>>43831363
>>43832030
I mean let's be honest, his behavior is extremely confusing
it's fun to say shit like "hurr he's a horndog who wants to fuck Kronii and doesn't give a shit about his genmates!", but if not that what's the real reason that explains his attitude?

They are truly made for each other

>>43832087
i saw a exact same thread with the exact same words not just long ago

>>43832256
Its cool you guys know each other from the same fanbase

This is indeed a weird rift he's created by not collabing with anyone in Tempus2. I'm with him though they debuted too many dudes too quickly. Complaining clearly gets you suspended but they can't force the collab just like they can't force Gura to stream.

>>43832488
If I'm gonna be honest, the most plausible explanation is that he had some weird fight with Altare and now refuses to do anything involving him.

He's clearly still friends with Magni and Axel (even though he's been a huge cunt to Axel) but as soon as Altare is involved he's out. I think he made this whole "no more tempus collabs because social battery hort" thing to make it not so obvious that he's dodging Altare specifically?
As for why he's collabing with girls... Maybe it's just because he keeps getting invited by Mori and Kronii and doesn't want to say no to his senpais.
That's the most good faith explanation I can come up with at least.

The whole Tempus ghosting issue is just really fucking weird and pretty much nobody knows what the fuck is going on with him regarding that.
Keep in mind it already started before the Japan schizo arc.

>>43832689
He's very friendly with them though.
Praises Bettel, chats with Flayon and Hakka, respects Shinri.

I swear, he's been soft collab banned or something and it's only expiring now, hence his interview collabs only coming up in the next week or two.

>>43831853
seems to me like all of them are containment breaking faggots, nothing to see here

>>43832734
>doesn't want to say no to his senpais

>>43832804
They just want to have the most updoots on their epic YABADABADOO DBZ spic meme.

>>43831363
Of all the baits and rrats on here, we finally got one that isn't delusional. Like him or hate him, fact is he been avoiding collabs with the boys, citing social anxiety, but always show up to a collab with girl in it.

>>43831853
No one likes or cares about Vanguard, i'd rather see him collab with chicks anyway. Then it's not a boring sausage fest, and I get to watch some swinging titties and have a laugh

>>43832804
Who gives a shit, the entire Mori criticism waves (of which there were like 3) were all "muh containment breakers" and guess what, they actually did shit and bullied her into getting her shit together.

>>43831363
BASED, FUCK HUGBOXES

>>43832374
You're mentally ill by the fact that you can't tell that different people have different opinions.

>>43831363

>>43832734
i believe the altare and vesper fight rrat, but they can’t keep it going forever. vesper barely talks in large group collabs anyway, so it’d be easy for him to avoid having to interact with altare.

>>43833013
No, I'm trying to understand the logical path to connect these two points, not the opinion that Vesper = bad

>>43832804
do they know how easliy they can be tracked if someone from here put a little effort? disregard opsec for a shitty drama jesas, how mighty 4chn has fallen

>>43831853
>grey coments
>all around the same time
>use of /vt/ memes
>asking to apologize after the coment he said was related to the New Vegas stream with ppl telling him to drink water sleep and eat instead of playing

Anon chama are you retarded on purpose or you just wanted (you)s?

>>43832269
It's almost as if his former fans canceled their membership wowee

>>43832689
>they can force gura to stream.
They literally graduated a fucking talent last year because she wouldn't stream. As shitty as Sana was she probably brought more money in than Vesper. Kick his ass to the curb.

>>43833114
>It's almost as if his former fans canceled their membership wowee
the dramasister cope holy kek

>>43833114
I'm sure that's easily provable too..

>>43833114
A total of 4 yumes did that and they all bought another one when he came back, they are all pathetic, just like (you)

>>43833111
Grays are the only thing stars get. You think people actually pay for their memberships? lol lmao

>>43833046
I even believe that Altare was probably in the wrong on whatever the fuck their fight was about, given that he's a stuck-up SJW troon.
But that still doesn't excuse Vesper's cringy manchild behavior. How hard is it to keep up some fucking semblance of professionalism, my god.

>>43833212
Reminder to read the book that footnote is from because it's based

>>43833438
What is that Niche?

>>43831853
Containment breaking faggots.
>grey name
Of fucking course. Probably a nijinigger wanting to create a holodrama for deflection

>>43833158
They're a quota for the first year but not after it. It even says so on the fucking application form.

>>43833438
Cheers, that really does look like an interesting read.

>>43832756
You may be right about the soft ban. Collabs between tempus and holoen also dropped off the map when Ves was suspended. I don't know why they would stop talking to the others but again it feels like some kind of protest or internal struggle.

>>43832734
Nigga, you're doing mental gymnastics to cope with the fact that he's a horndog. He also dodged holostars JP collabs. It doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out his thought process.

He's actively reading the comments and he's most likely /here/ right now reading this shit

>>43833599
>he's a horndog.
Vesper "Vtubing is better than sex" Noir?

>>43833620
Vesper " You live and die by your solo content" Noir?

>>43833419
hes a vtuber at the age of 40(i think), do you think this guy can be profesional?

>>43831363
So that's it?
I'm having trouble understanding why you faggots are so worked up over this shit. At worst he's just being immature and trying to do something to spite you faggots. Is there some new female collab or something? People are acting like it's the end of the world but can't find any confirmation about that. Latest thing was gaypex where he was with iofi and astel and now the convention where him and magni have their own little thing.

You fags really just want to run with everything because A FUCKING MALE!? Either that or some autistic sisters, but checking /mans/ nobody gives a fuck about this "controversy"

good good. for the sake of hololive we need this dude to fail.

>>43831647
you type like a niji fujo

>>43833346
Stars have always had a bigger % of members x subs than other streamers, because they have less viewers per stream but just as many whales than holoEN for example, is waaaaaaaaay easier to get a gifted, I have a 4 month magni memba just by watching randomly, so any grey coment in any of stars be JP or EN is 99% chance of being a retard that broke containment

>>43833678
>collabs
AIEEEEE HE'S A LEECH

>doesn't collab
AIEEEEE HE HATES X

>>43833608
I have no doubt that he's having a giggle over the seething and probably even gets off on the fact that everyone is confused about his behavior and doesn't know the "truth".

As long as he knows that he's not fooling anyone with his silly "just ignore the issue out of existence" meme, that's good enough for me.

>>43833608
Vesper do a book review stream and i'll throw you a fiver

Can the Niji hate brigade fuck off, shits so obvious
go back to discord

>>43833687
/MANS/ is already over this shit, most of the drama already happened months ago. Vespies actually had to flee /MANS/ and make their own Vesper split thread because they were getting shat on so much.
Of course they don't care that he's collabing with some girl, their main issue was that he's ghosting the guys and literally fucking up their collabs because he was scheduled to attend (literally in the thumbnail) and then goes "btw im not going fuck you" at the last minute, but that shit happened months ago.

>>43831853
Good. Let the sisters yab him to death.

>>43833687
>but checking /mans/ nobody gives a fuck about this "controversy"
Daily reminder that he needed his own split.

>>43833687
Vesper, you’re trying way too hard bud. You’re 42 for crying out loud. Just stop being a pussy and grow up

>>43834018
>needed
Oh I am laffin

>Vesties damage control
Rumao

>>43832219
>made an apology post locked in tier 3
HAhHAHAHAHA what he fuck??

>>43833687
>At worst he's just being immature
Isn't he in his 30s? That's pathetic.

I don't watch him but hugbox be damned. Kinda based.

>>43834129
I think it was this shit. Not even much of an apology, but definitely gated behind tier 3 memberships.
That's actually not the only thing he's hidden behind tier 3 since then, lmao.

exact 4 person replying to this just like comment section lmao
>>43833687

>>43831888
Inshallah, all cgdct enjoyers will be struck down, but you still won't catch me watching Vesper.

>>43834262
just call kronii and he'll be fixed in no time

>>43832374
Actual troon rage

Asking the real question, xcom stream doko?

>>43831363
Jesas, so qrd is that sisters are dunkin on a homo for collabbing FUCKING FEMALES? Lemao I thought girls like being cucked.

>>43834515
Troons are so sad, they're powerless against wizard game players, powerless against Hololive, even powerless against the 3 views of Tempus because nobody fucking cares what unmedicated mental illness speaks.

>>43831853
>OF COURSE I'LL ATTEND M'LADY!! YABBA DABBA DOO!!!
Okay this actually made me kek, well done

>>43831647
It IS based to act like a sex pest if youre attractive. That's how you get laid

>>43833608
Hey Vesper it'd be really funny if you got all the Tempus members together for an "offcollab" but it's actually a prank where you kill them all and then yourself. Just think of the bit.

>>43831853
>Bunch of containment breakers
You guys realize that when you spam one comment section at the same time, it makes it obvious it's just a /vt/ raid right? It literally happened with the whole Gura And Mori's house party situation. Bunch of /vt/ people raid that ONE specific stream's comment section that made it look like a Twitter dogpile raid and no one takes it seriously anymore

>>43834646
And don't forget powerless against their own bodies, they will never actually be a woman despite their efforts

>>43834832
So true ledditsister, we should just stay silent at all times and never complain!

>>43831853
Isnt this guy being ostracized and bullied by the blue guy? No shit he doesnt want to collab with them

I watched some of his PL back when he first debuted and posted on Reddit and seemed like a likeable guy. The fuck happened to him?

>>43831363
>Timestamp is some retard breaking containment and spamming
>"Hahah... yabba dabba doo... interesting"
>Cheeky "when was the last time I collabed, maybe I should do it more lol"

Unironically what are people mad about in the comments? He didn't even specify girls or boys.

>>43834922
I'm sure your mean words will convince him to graduate

>>43834949
Dramasisters are looking for the next yab after niji and vshojo shit, this is literally the best they can do.

>>43834950
We (yes we) actually successfully bullied Mori into improving with your spooky evil "containment breaking raids" so I don't give a fuck about your newfag opinions

>>43834262
Holy fuck that's brilliant, you spend all the resources of the company trying to run you off by crying like a bitch about anxiety AND you get to flirt with kronii and mori.

>>43832174
“Even the normalfags”
Anon…i hate to break it to you but 90% of those people are here. /vt/ is the least 4chan like board with the most tourists

>>43834832
This. Stop being pussies and show up live. Not like they get a lotta viewers. They’ll notice your comments

>>43834922
You should if that's the kind of strat you're planning on using on trying to get your point across

>>43835033
>We (yes we)

>>43834932
Didn't happen.

>>43834934
Girls gave him attention

>>43834934
Maybe he got too “big” too soon and he just wasn’t made for the spotlight? Maybe he realized he can get away with anything? Maybe he just doesn’t realize how bad a look it is to collab with females over his male coworkers in his male branch?
I genuinely don’t know, it’s weird that there doesn’t seem to be anyone at management to explain things to him about how it’s not a great look.

Why is it ok when Roberu ignores his branchmates to collab with women but not when Vesper does it?

>>43835210
It's ok when jp does it

>>43834832
>Nobody hated the "rager"
Except Gura, hasn't had a 1 on 1 collab with Mori since. Also barely talked during the last myth off collab, wasn't the case for the improvised one during fire emblem that didn't have Mori. Prove me wrong, you can't.

>>43831363
YABBA DABBA DOO

>>43833093
Are you retarded?

another nijifag thread to own the holobroniies

>>43835210
Roberu is what people think Vesper is. Vesper is just a horndog geezer that talked to a woman for the first time in ages when he got in

>>43835210
Cite instances of Roberu missing all branch/gen collabs or milestone streams. You can't.

>>43835210
Roberu actually had it harder over there in Japan, unicorn bros went no half measures on most of them. Meanwhile these faggots act like divas in a profession where they debut with silver spoons and have every permission upon their debut only to flop and bitch about not being able to do their twitch antics that got them at least 100 viewers. Surprisingly it turns out the men are more women than the actual girls

>>43834791
Kek. I'm imagining a bit like The Hunted. Vesper strips them of all their belongings and lets them loose into the woods where he usually camps. Then he'll start hunting them down one by one with his spear.

>>43831363
StarsEN was a mistake. Shouldn't have listen to leddit and twittroons

As a casual Vesper fan I just love his antics, but I give my condolences to the yumes and hardcore tempus fans, I'd temper my expections surrounding him if I were you. But I don't blame you for falling for him the way you did.

>>43835291
By that logic then that also applies to the rest of the myth member's whom Gura hasnt collabed 1 on 1 with since forever, and for the Myth Offcollab Gura only slept like 3 hours because she woke up at 6am to do a valentine's member stream to please her chums, had warned ahead of time that she wasn't gonna be talking much ahead of time in the Offcollab due to tiredness.

>>43831853
>The person with an Uyu icon

If you're going to fake being a StarsJP fan at least make it believable.

>>43835210
Roberu seems to have a decently equal mix of guy and girl collabs, and he usually collabs with girls that nobody really gachikois over like Mea.
It also helps that said girls aren’t a part of the company, I think that’s what makes it more palatable compared to with JP holos

>>43835210
Roberu is senpai, he already contributed to Stars over the years and earned that right. Vesper not even a year and Tempus as a whole brought nothing but drama. i don't know what COVER think of 200K subs and low thousands in superchat, but compare to Luxiem, their primary competitor, Tempus are a failure.

>>43831363
did this dude actually say yabba dabba do or its a here meme that breached containment

>>43835645
Gura literally went out for 1 on 1 karaoke with Kiara, cope and seethe. She barely interacts with Mori after the "rager".

>dedicated vesperm replying to all comments with "le 4chan bad"
mindbroken

>>43835210
Roberu doesn't ignore anyone, StarsJP doesn't really need to collab because most of them straight up meet all the time. And vesper avoided meeting Axel altogether when he went to japan

>>43835374
Like two weeks ago?

>>43835764
Nice way to put yourself sister

>>43835210
Its not lmao Roberu got fucking raped by antis early in his career but he gained respect

>>43835194
Fame definitely got into his head. He said it was his first time streaming on his PL though he seemed to always talked about how he did a lot of research and put thought into what he did. All of that was thrown to the side the moment he made it in Holostars because he didn't have to put thought or effort into anything anymore.

>>43835520
wrong movie I meant The Frozen Ground

>>43835033
>We (yes we)
Actually and unironically end yourself you piece of shit nigger

>>43831363
He's a 40 yrs old autistic incel working as an anime gay boy on the internet. This is literally his only fucking shot at some ripe Korean pussy. Of course he's going to jump straight in.
And I love how much this guy was spammed as the biggest brotuber in Tempiss and now it turns out he might be the worst member of a dogshit branch no one ever wanted.

>>43831725
Seems like it, he at least is getting his lines from that thread that was deleted earlier

>>43835210
>Roberu
>senpai
>has a schedule set for his bar
>still collabs with his bros when he cans
>earned the right to do what he wants after the anti-jpStars sentiment years ago
Vesper
>
>
>

>>43835865
>missing 2 other members
Nice try vesperfag.

>>43835875
sorry i have a dick.

>>43836109
That yabba dabba doo post has been posted like a dozen times since last month at least

>>43835865
That's just a normal stream

>>43836032
If he actually wanted to fuck her, that makes him less a "bro"?

>>43835374
2 weeks ago he directly overlapped a 10 person stars collab to do a collab with a Niji girl https://www.youtube.com/live/8YLsbXvMlXM?feature=share

>>43831593
Always is.

>>43831363
>36 dislikes
>2072 likes
oh no less than 2% of people (Who probably aren't even his fans and didn't even watch the VOD or stream) are really shitting on him...\
>>43831853
>Graynames
Since when has anyone cared about grayname opinions?

>>43836370
It's a 10 person game.

>>43836385
>MUHH GREYNAMES
Cope

>>43831853
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO TEMPISSBROS???

>>43831593
Every fucking time.

>>43836437
graynames have always been the biggest shitposters for all of hololive/holostars. Why would you care about anything they have to say?

How many JP Stars did Vesper take the opportunity to meet during his trip to Japan?

>>43831647
I'm definitely a self inset faggot but less of the fucking kronii part and with more of a making /vt/ seethe incentive.
Feels good for not being a unicorn cuck.

>>43831363
Holobased

>>43831363
the dumpster fire in question:

Vesper entered Tempus to have a chance at getting some poon with whoever hologirl is interested.
Why must he collab with dudes when he's not homosexual? Especially with unwanted company like that blue asshole that, let's be honest, no one really likes.
The fact that he's receiving all this hate for trying to lose his virginity makes me lose faith in the vtuber community. We should all be encouraging him and support his sex endeavors.

>>43836744
Whenever it's members actually shitting on anyone you still make up other copes about why their comments don't matter

>>43836298
Yes, bros before hoes. As it is he's a creepy 40 yrs old who joined Hololive just to groom some chicks and then fuck off.

>>43835611
I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU KEEP VESPER AWAY FROM HER YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT.

Reminder that the only people who hate Vesper are jealous because he's fucking their oshis.
This post will get at least a dozen angry replies from those very people, coming up with some other nonsense reason.
But we all know the truth.

>>43835831
Only because they're in Japan staying in the same place, Kiara was basically Gura's tour guide as Gura said on her return stream, go watch streams bro

>>43836968
>As it is he's a creepy 40 yrs old who joined Hololive just to groom some chicks and then fuck off.
Sister...

>>43831853
Can't wait for this degenerate to get graduated

man, what the fuck, people calling him out are actually getting lots of likes

>>43837080

Dropped this retard while back and I love seeing anti threads of him. But I know 4chan aint worth shit and will not affect him. What do?

>>43833509
I recall when Council debuted someone said basically "if you thought Ayame was bad you have no idea what's in store" - some insider clearly who had been hanging around the Councils for a while and knew at least one of them was gonna flake out hard. I guess that was Sana, but really Kronii and Mumei also were pretty flakey their first few months. Mumei's improved, Kronii's kind of the same taking every chance she gets to take time off (wow she loves this gig just so much, clearly).

>>43836769
Zero. He didn't even meet Axel (his genmate), but he had plenty of time to get drunk and do dumbshit all night while he was there.

>>43837150
People are tired of his shit. Most people have common sense and don't hold to the hugbox mentality of "you must defend your vtuber at all costs!" attitude that Reddit and the Discords try to foster and will call out retardation when they see it. Vesper has been acting like a fuckhead for a while now so things are starting to reach breaking point.

He'll either get his shit together and start acting like a professional or he'll end up being a pariah of HoloPro

I like Vesper's streams.

>>43831363
holy fuck it was just a pathetic /vt/ raid what a waste of time.

>>43837190
Actually it's rather likely he's here, he just doesn't give a shit what people say about him.

I'd guess if the entire perception of him we have wasn't his fault and he literally isn't allowed to correct the record then there's no use flailing about uselessly. For example maybe the animosity isn't from him but from management who intentionally is isolating him vaguely like how Coco magically stopped collabing/talking to others from the company after the Taiwan yab just by coincidence.

>>43831363
That someone that followed him from afar, this shit is entertaining as fuck.
I gotta say if I was still actively watching him, I would be mad with his behaviour. Especially the not showing up to the Tempus collabs.

So the dude simply doesn't enjoy doing collabs with Tempus and would rather do collabs with HoloEN if possible? Isn't that what HoloEN does? It makes a lot of sense to me!

>>43837425
The notion that vtubers must be worshipped as superhuman beings above flaws and/or that any flaws they make are the audience's fault for identifying them as flaws in the first place is bigger leeway given to strangers online than you would to even your real friends and family. It's insanity codified and they call -you- crazy if you point that out.

>>43837425
I truly, genuinely hope Vesper does get his shit together. I really liked him after debut and I especially like his dynamic with Magni, I'd hate for all this to end badly.

>>43837581
>Isn't that what HoloEN does?
???? retarded nigger

>>43837609
You'll know Vesper went to far when even Magni drops him. I don't get why he even still supports him

I miss when HoloEN was free of this kind of drama. Was it really worth introducing a faggot gen? Do the numbers justify the constant drama and fighting amongst fans that these faggots have brought to the community?

>>43837111
/mans/ trannies have absolutely no right to call anyone a sister lmao.

>>43837701
Same reason Axel does despite getting backstabbed by Vesper. They think he's a menhera who needs support

>>43837761
Sorry he won't fuck you babe

>>43837711
>I miss when HoloEN was free of this kind of drama
Nigger when was that? Kiara cried on stream literally one week after debut because she felt "attacked". Holo EN is defined by its drama

tempiss is a failure filled with faggots who deserve every single bit of hate they have ever gotten

He's trying to get some pussy, stfu and let the guy do his thing

>>43837701
wdym Magni dropped him? I haven't been following Tempus lately but I heard they were doing a panel together at some anime con soon, so they seem good to me.

>>43831888
>cgdct
Why does this phrase make me violently cringe? Feels like it was made up by some fatass, unkepmt, unshaven, greasy, smelly, neckbeard sitting in his moms basement with cat ears on going "Kawaii ugu" at the sound of a female voice. Probably plays a miqote in FFXIV

>>43837865
Reading comprehension

>>43837781
But Axel dropped him to after all his shenanigans... It's been weeks since they haven't talked

>>43837945
It was thing before you were even born zoomer virgin

>>43837865
HoloEN stuff is tame compared to NijiEN and that's why most people ignore/forget anything that happened.

>>43831853
LMAO, these are all you guys. Vesper's actual fans don't give a fuck. All grey names

>>43837924
It was hypothetical, Anon. Magni is pretty much the only friend Vesper has left in HQ, atm

>>43837711
In basically every argument for its existence, it fails when you consider how an actual EN3 girl's gen would have performed in the place of Tempus. People cope by going "it's totally different management they're not sharing the same resources it isn't delaying EN3" etc but the stark ever-present lacking of new EN girls for a year and a half now in favor of 8 new dudes seems to suggest otherwise. Someone's spent a lot of time and energy on Tempus and we do not see much suggestion of a similar fervor for the girls.

>>43837945
That's not just low hanging fruit sister that fruit's fallen off the branch and is rotting on the ground. Like I'm sorry your oshi's a lying sexpest but that doesn't mean you can't come up with good material

>>43837945
>fatass, unkepmt, unshaven, greasy, smelly, neckbeard sitting in his moms basement with cat ears on going "Kawaii ugu" at the sound of a female voice. Probably plays a miqote in FFXIV
sounds like a based avid hololive enjoyer

-femaleanons- add me ashen#4718

and chat about vidya and weeb stuff kemono girls pokemon fate creative hobbies /m/ shows lolis digimon smt yuuka meiling patchouli shion yuugii from touhou megaman monster hunter FU vtubers( and mock deadbeats. )fantasy the 4 heroes of light SFM animations females from the DoA games final the rwby anime and other stuff

>>43838098
I'm retarded and completely misread your post, my b

>>43837956
Nuh uh. You're implying the homos made things like that. In reality Holo EN was like that from the beginning. The Kiara menhera start, the Mori not caring about Hololive arc. You don't get to re-write History. You're probably just a newfag unicorn that got butthurt when his oshi got to close to men.

>>43837711
>Was it really worth introducing a faggot gen?
Fuck no. Despite all the drama, leeching and shilling they are performing even worse than ID. Any new gen of girls would've absolutely mogged these faggots and on top of that HoloEN really fucking needed some new hires in the past few months. Instead we got 8 new faggots.

>claims he was in the archery club, definitely not ripped off from Stay/night
>He claimed to have bought fishing gear in Japan (or brought it to Japan, I forgot) only to realize he's not allowed to fish anywhere. Not only is googling "fishing spot [location]" probably the first thing you would do if you wanted to go fishing, not only is it questionable he would carry an entire fishing gear set with him on a plane, IT'S NOT EVEN TRUE that fishing is illegal in japan, what teh fuck?
>Did his "eating moldy burgers" stream where he goes all "ahh yeah, I'm feeling it!!" and pretends to have a stomach hort as if food poisoning instantaneously sets in or something. later goes all "ohh noo they weren't actually literally moldy, but you know how some food is like expired but also not expired but like [incomprehensible schizo babble]" and says he didn't actually get food poisoning (but somehow still stomach hort, right??)
>tells all these outdoors stories yet is apparently also an ubersperg with social anxiety
>claims to have a schizo meltdown without his anxiety meds in Japan, yet can collab with girls no problem
>claims to still have a depleted social battery and still can't collab once home, yet once again collabs with girls no problem
>He says he bought a real hunting spear, yet we've never seen a fucking picture
DYRB

>>43831853
>blatant containment breach
>vesper fanbase
Pick one

Every day proves more and more that EN was a mistake.

>>43838167
>Like I'm sorry your oshi's a lying sexpest
God, I wish she was, that'd be kinda hot

>>43837945
if you knew a single thing about anime you'd know it's been around for about a decade and a half and typifies shows like K-on or Yuruyuri etc. You know, the shows that redefined the entire scene. Which is clearly the kind of thing that HoloJP is overall modeled on as a whole in generally being moe/iyashikei vibes, and some lean more into casual tete play-yuri kind of thing than others. Originally Hololive wasn't quite like that and was more sexual and such (Choco was the biggest Holo for a little while etc) but Youtube cracking down on ASMR and banning Mel just for existing and having boobs drove Cover to rely more on just the moe angles. They couldn't actually-do much else realistically. So they decided to get good at that instead.

>>43838282
>archery club
i already don't believe this, are people so deprived of having a "bro" they'll believe anything?

>>43831363
I fucking hate you collab beggers. Just let him do what he wants. Same applies to every other fucking vtuber.

>>43838271
What do you think I meant by "this kind of drama" retard-kun?

>"ahh yeah, I'm feeling it!!" and pretends to have a stomach hort as if food poisoning instantaneously sets in or something. later goes all "ohh noo they weren't actually literally moldy, but you know how some food is like expired but also not expired but like [incomprehensible schizo babble]"
This is actually funny and pretty endearing

>Legit complains about Vesper in the comments
>ENTER /VT/
>Bunch of /here/ memes
>"Yabba dabba doo"
>Greentexting in Youtube comments
>All happening at the exact same time on the exact same vod comments and nowhere else
>Brand new accounts
What the FUCK are you retards doing? Are you actually trying to help him? He's just going to blame those on 4chin and keep on doing things as usual.

>>43836982
Seethe moar

>>43832316
>hetshippers
and so the cancer is revealed.

>>43838521
Vesper must do his best Fred Flinstone impression and shout YABBA DABBA DOOOO in the Kronii/Mori collab. It's the only way to make this all go away.

>>43838467
Kill yourself nigger, anniversary collabs are LITERALLY management enforced but this faggot got away with ghosting it by pretending to be sick

>>43838487
The only difference between the Vesper drama and the drama Holo EN had back then, is the sex of the perpetrator. You fucking brainrotted dumbass

>>43831363
many male vtubers try to be him, but all fail

>>43838605
I would kneel so hard if he does that

>>43838521
It doesn't really matter, he won't change no matter how many people complain.

>>43838641
>You fucking brainrotted dumbass
Holy shit the irony. If you don't see the difference you're unironically the biggest retard in this thread.

>>43838708
Mori changed. I can fix him

I've realized HolostarsEN was not a mistake after all, because they could have been lovable dopes like their JP senpai and it could have been genuinely great.

What WAS a mistake, however, was the people they hired for the roles. In an alternate timeline we got some guys that got along just fine and did all sorts of cool stuff together and they had no drama because they focused on only each other and maybe some sluts from outside the company, just like the JP stars. What we got was a bunch of fucking nothing. I never subscribed to the idea of "trust the Cover scouts, BRO" because they have definitely been failing in that regard. They keep hiring people that hate their own fans, don't like streaming and are openly hostile to everyone that disagrees with them. Cool fucking interviewers, bro.

>>43838758
Explain the difference then, Dr Glassman

>>43838521
>implying "4chin" wants this homo to actually improve instead of continuing to fuck up
it's more fun this way

>>43834262
Why does he act like a woman

>>43831853
Isn't this the kind of shit that made Kronii double down on her collab stance?

>>43838767
DYRBI?

>>43838873
Kronii never dropped out of holoEN events to do Tempus collabs and made up a bunch of reasons why she did. She just did collabs.

>>43838873
Give it a bit more of a push and they'll be fucking for real out of spite of these retards

>>43831853
jesus christ, I can't believe I'm in the reality where Altare is doing well and Vesper is suffering. Please take care, old man.

we need a plan to make this man go full skizo

>>43831363
yeah about that....

>>43838873
That doesn't make her any better, two wrongs doesn't make a right. They're here to entertain us and if they don't fucking listen when we say we're not being entertained then fuck 'em. If they can't manage a fucking baby tier easy job and can't avoid letting out a condescending patronizing gaze that's a them-problem, not us.

>>43839127
Kinda sucks that unless they go full retard like Rushia, they'll still be laughing their way to the bank while we all sit here and seethe.

>>43839047
You can't? we knew altare had power from day 1 with the "guild leader" bullshit. we knew he was a vindictive activist type. this is how authoritarians play. i stopped watching altare week 1 because of these signs; this outcome wasn't at all a surprise.

>>43831363
All I'm saying is just ONCE i'd like to see Vesper drop out of a hololive collab due to anxiety

>>43831446
Counterpoint: he owns a spear

>>43831853
Kek all those containment breakers seething, no longer a vestie but I love the salt.

>Containment breachers that don't watch him getting uppity over something that didn't happen
This has literally never happened before

>>43834646
Altare is against the idea of anyone playing wizard game to "support the cause"

>>43839245
It's kind of impossible to piss off literally-every fan at once, even if someone went live and did nothing but rant at their audience as a bunch of shitty losers wasting their money for an hour straight a lot of them would STILL forgive the chuuba, because they'd just blame themselves for that stream instead. Being a Holo is to be too big to fail and even if you don't try at all you still fail upwards. Sana did nothing at all for most of her "career" and actually kept good CCV and made good income doing that. The tactic of boomeranging anything a chuuba doing wrong on the audience would play into literally anything you could say about that. However this is a fallacious thing to do. It's like blaming a car for an accident and not the driver.

>>43839116
>live viewers were redirected to flayon
Did vesper have zero viewers or something? Flayon has been sitting at 400-500 for hours already

>>43831446
Why would I personally care? If I enjoy his content I'll watch it, if I don't, I won't.

>>43838767
Mori actually cared about criticism, for better or for worse. You got her legendary sperg-outs, but you also got her trying to improve to varying degrees of success.
Vesper clearly doesn't give a fuck, he's probably having a giggle reading this entire thread.

Personally I don't even give a shit about this whole "horndog" stuff and I don't watch Tempus.
The only thing that bothers me is that he's clearly lying about his reasons and trying to ignore everything out of existence.
I fucking hate liars, they always come across as sociopaths to me.

>>43831853
>Bunch of greyniggers
>All comments posted around the same time
>/here/ lingo
You faggots have made the same song and dance and pretend that no one is gonna notice

>>43839673
This is actually expert bait, very slimy and cloying. I just wanted to praise you for this one as a passerby with no horse. Well done.

>>43831363
I’m pretty sure he’s deleting comments like a pussy too

>>43839632
>even if someone went live and did nothing but rant at their audience as a bunch of shitty losers
I remember Ollie doing exactly this for like 5 minutes

>>43839797
Agreed, i do something similar where i’ll go into the mori thread and type some anti shit but disguise it as support, my favorite line is “i love how big mori is, she’s the heaviest hololive member by far, how cute!”

>>43832087
ill give you a hint as to who made the thread
that guy

If Vesper was here(which he is) which posts are most likely his?

>>43831794
You're a girl aren't you? Just wondering based on your post, nothing mean or anything

>>43839673
raids not work when the redirected viewer get filtered cuz they don't like him

>>43837425
I'm all for not being yes men, and not living in a hugbox, but I wish the criticisms were about something less schizo than "omg a male talked to a female"

a fucking deadbeat dude really
really

>>43838278
>they're all homo faggots
>i feel threatened if they collab with my oshi
which is it?

>>43840204
Pretty much this. If the opposite sexes didn't want to fuck the shit out of each other, we'd be enemies. We just tolerate the other at best

>>43831794
based fellow zookchad

>>43838708
It depends. He stretched the anxiety hort excuse enough that people might start to recognize the pattern of it magically going away the moment it turns into a women collab.
There’s a point where he’ll wear out his welcome if he keeps it up, and he’s not irreplaceable like the girls in HoloPro. I hope this isn’t just who he is all along or fame didn’t change him.

>>43840204
I think it's more like the fact he's been avoiding so much of Tempus now, social battery hort, ditching everyone in Japan etc factors in to people looking and going "oh NOOOW he shows up to a collab.. with Kronii again of course, maybe the yabba dabba doo shit is actually onto something."

>>43839749
He can only keep going like this for so long. He keeps missing every important milestone collab claiming every excuse in the book yet shows up for every female collab. Like it or not, this still is a fucking job. He can only ignore management for so long until they end up firing him.

>>43831853
>obvious containment breakers
zzzzzz

From the perspective of a unicorn who wants to see Tempus go down in flames, who should I root for here?

>>43840382
>He can only ignore management for so long
His manager doesn't have a problem with him, though.

>>43840312
I would avoid the blue faggot too if I could

Not collabing with racists and extremist activists is ONLY worthy of praise, Vesp. We know what you're doing and why and we support you.

>>43840145
he was here long ago
his NSO stream revealed he prefer avoid shitholes like this when your are a schizo target

>Vesper is a bad genmate for missing all these milestone streams and colabs!
Why should I care. Give me any reason why this should matter to anyone. Is there any evidence that the rest of tempus even care?

>>43840204
don't really give a shit about mixed collabs and what not, but it's definitely weird how he's avoiding his other genmates outside of magni and gettel while also beating around the bush, never explaining himself as to why.

all of this plus the fact that can give the shitposters the ammo by talking about them. this man isn't internet smart, by any means

>>43840204
There is a reason why it ended up that way.

>>43831853
I see a lot of containment breakers here.

>>43840417
Pray Vesper is fired or graduates soon

>>43840427
Doesn't mean upper management doesn't. He got suspended once already.

>>43840311
He's been friends with mori longer than he's been friends with tempus. And she's his senpai now so he doesn't really want to refuse. And can we stop pretending Dez isn't there? This is just the group he's most comfortable collabing with that isn't just tempus

>>43840592
Exactly, it could be upper management segregating, and it's been almost 2 months since all that shit anyway.

>>43840417
I don't think there's a lot one can do here as whatever is causing a rift in Tempus seems to be generally internal. We still don't actually-know why Vesper got suspended a few months ago and it looks more apparent by the week something is really-really keeping Vesper apart from many of the others and we just don't fucking know what it is. It doesn't feel like it has much to do with female/male collabs at all I think and is more of their being little bitch boys.

>>43840588
Neh, nigga is a yab machine. Him and the new Tempiss dudes did more damage to the fucking branch than any /here/ unicorn could ever dream of.

>>43831363
Can't blame him? His genmates suck...yes I'm talking about the blue one.

>>43840575
Which I thought was looked down on. They couldn't have made it more obvious that they were all from /here/

>>43831853
Is he collabing with Kronii again?

>>43840417
Pray he fucks kronii or Mori and then gets fired because it would unleash a shitshow of drama none of them would recover from.
>>43840636
He's not segregated, he still collabs with Magni. It's clear something is up between him and altair and that it's pissing off management.

>>43840687
Yes, actually.

>>43834832
>no one hated the rager
Yeah, that's why gura and mori are on such great terms

>>43840706
When?

>>43840204
You guys need to realize that this is actually based on a drama that is literally months old, about him ghosting several collabs including their anniversary, completely out of nowhere and without explanation, and not collabing with them since.
During the Japan arc he came up with the social anxiety excuse that is in all likelihood complete bullshit, to justify continuing to avoid collabs even after returning home. But there was a contradiction in that because he DID collab with the girls in Japan.
Then, while he was swearing he's still too schizo to collab, he attended Ollie's apex tournament with girls.
NOW you get this girls collab as the third straw to break the camels back.

It's not really about him wanting to collab with girls at all but more about the fact that this literally proves he is specifically just avoiding the boys for whatever fucking reason. His whole social anxiety excuse is a complete and utter lie. The horndog meme is just added humor to the actual problems people have with him.

>>43840687
Worse, it's her first stream back after surgery. She's been gone for days but can come back for tempiss.

>>43840864
It's actually impressive how the "yabs" for Kronii and Vesper are literally mirror images of each other.

>>43840723
Just because you keep repeating it in your mind doesn't make it true, schzio.

>>43840204
You're being disingenuous and reductionist if your summary of why people dislike Vesper is because he did a Holo collab.

>>43840687
Ye. But the criticism is that he's basically been avoiding collabing with the other tempus boys, his own gen mates and stars in general because of anxiety (which I'm not buying) to the point he didn't join the full tempus and even 6 month anniversary collabs. Yet the first collab he joins(other than ollie's even thing) is another one with mori and kronii; making deadbeats, unicorns and his yumes all seethe in one go. He doesn't give a shit though. Good for him I guess?

The fight he had with management was definitely over his relationship with the girls. He probably told them he was going to try and date one of them and management said no. So he sperged out and threatened to quit or something and now he's probably trying to blackmail them into hooking him up with Kronii.gw

>>43840969
Other than their roommates both having pronouns in their bio (well, had) they couldn't be less alike.. which is probably why they get along romantically so well.

>>43840733
March 1st Uno offcollab with Kronii and Calli

I hope Kronii is putting out at least, Vesper is really pushing his social battery for her sake

>>43841054
This skinny repressed types are usually NASTY in bed because they have to convince themselves they were worth it. I guarantee she puts out off stream.

HOLY COPE

>>43834262
just take some anxiety meds and stfu

>>43841154
Coping.. what? The comment you posted agrees with Vesp. That's not the user that has to reason out anything.

>>43841154
that's some logic right there. "It takes less social battery to engage with a coworker you aren't that close to than it does friends you're a lot more comfortable around"

>>43840687
First the cat hort made her not go to Japan with her genmates (that if she had that plan in the first place), then came back for some streams just to announce that the surgery was coming soon and that she was really anxious and she took more days off. Then another week of break where she wasn't doing anything because her surgery got postponed (doing anything for valentine's and not having the excuse of working like some of myth) and just did a twitter space, and the first thing for coming back after the surgery that has been tormenting her for months and that she's gonna heal in seconds ofc is Vesper. Both are made for each other

>>43840610
Nothing would’ve been wrong with him finding a clique, if it didn’t result in him ditching Axel and then going menhera in Japan because he didn’t bring his meds, if he didn’t miss out on milestones or constant group collabs, and especially if he didn’t pretend his anxiety hort or he has low social battery.
That’s long past the honeymoon point.

>>43841154
Vesties are literally schizophrenic lmao

>>43841154
hahaha tf did I just read? So if he's not close to that person = less social battery, if he's very close ''LIKE THE TEMPUS BOYS'' (right Vespies? kek) = more social battery needed. That's some mindbending cope HAHAHAHA

>>43841154
It's annoying that /here/ is as tribalistic as it is because it is one of the few places where things can be talked about without having to deal with faggots like this in the Holo fandom that are clearly socially inept but pretend that they have a doctorate in psychology.

>>43841154

Holy cow the women losing their minds over who someone plays card games with in this thread is opening my eyes. Idol culture is creepy shit!

>>43840204
>I wish the criticisms were about something less schizo than "omg a male talked to a female"
Which absolutely isn't the issue here. Hololive fans simply want to preserve the culture and avoid seeing HoloEN turned into the incestuous drama shitshow that is NijiEN. 99% of the fans don't have any issues with sponsored streams or professional stuff involving dudes but there were a lot of instances of Twitch ecelebs trying to leech from them and a lot of groomers who want to get into HoloStars just to fuck the HoloENs. Stuff like the HoloPro rebranding, Tempus2 debuting before EN3 and the aggressive attitude of the talents involved made a lot of Hololive fans fear the worst.
And from the /MANS/ side there is this >>43840781
from what I've seen one of the strenghts of Tempus is their unity and bros going along vibe, Vesper going out of his way to ruin that while also giving bullshit excuses for it seems like a valid concern.

>>43841475
People are desperate for love

>>43841024
>another one with mori and Kronii
Is this the mario party one? Or a new one coming?

>>43841669
well that's just.. actually very relatable.

>>43841475
Kys tranny.

>>43841279
In a way? In the mind if someone like vesper, you don't give a shit about people you only see because of daily routine but you do care about the important people close to you. You watch your actions a lot more(and you take this caution very personally, unlike the caution you take just for the sake of formalities) and the overthinking becomes exhausting. It's absolutely ridiculous but that just how it goes for some people
t. I was an assistant counselor during college

>>43841788
>counselor during college
ah so you're the one making everyone trans

>>43841702
New one. They're playing UNO. it's on mori's schedule

>>43840678
You think anyone gives a shit anymore after all the newfags came flooding in? This is why this board is a joke now.

>>43841045
Gura has never had pronouns in any bio she's ever had, roommate or otherwise, you larping faggot.

>>43841888
i don't normally thank people who take bait but.. you are worth it.
i appreciate you, anon.

>>43841154
>not as close
Kronii and vesper literally play games on steam together almost every day off stream. What the fuck are they talking about?

>>43841788
I'm sure there's someone in this wide wide world this is true for, but there is 0% chance Vesper is one of them. He's clearly just chasing some combination of skirt and numbers. It's too convenient to not be true. Especially since he's collabed with Mori and Kronii more than most of the Tempus guys to the point that he's probably closer with those two girls than any of the guys

Yabba dabba dooooo

>>43841391
Yeah, the introvert-extrovert discussions regarding holomems on other platforms made me surprised by how few self-proclaimed armchair psychologists there are on this site, honestly, obv some exist /here/.

>>43842003
>I was just pretending to be retarded
You're a liar that was called out. Nothing more.

>>43842034
>Kronii and vesper literally play games on steam together almost every day off stream.
Proof?

>>43842145
literally neither of those girls have ever had pronouns
they do not do streams together (well, when gura streamed)
you took bait and have to live with it. it's okay, you're anonymous, you'll feel better soon.

Someone please rewrite the flinstones intro with lyrics shitting on vesper. Shit would be funny.

>>43841859
Fuck that. It's one of the reasons i chose not to pursue becoming an actual counselor. Can't tell someone they're just dissatisfied with their current life and should just make some lifestyle changes. Nooooo you gotta enable their dysphoria or get some weirdos throwing shit at your office windows for being a transphobe. Other than that, some patients were just honestly insufferable. I hate humanity in general a bit more now

>>43842183
Their corporate steam accounts used to be set to public but then some anons tracked them and they were always online and playing the same games at the same time for months.

https://files.catbox.moe/d1o91r.mp4

>>43834832
>deadbeats falseflagging as a Hooman
the rager was objectively an asshole move and a peak retard moment from Mori. We know Gura is absolutely paranoid regarding her privacy and we also know she was feeling sick during the whole offcollab. No fucking way having a surprise drug fueled rager while Gura was there was something she appreciated and on top of that the brapper talked about it on stream instead of trying to cover it up. Potentially hurting Gura's brand image or even doxxing her.

>>43841475
Anon, we already have Pizza Dad in StarsJP and he wasn’t anywhere near this bad, hell he’s professional. Why is Vesper an ojisan too but like this?

>>43842375
No image? Not even a thread or post number? Come on dude

>>43842375
I don't believe the IT guy rrat

>>43833814
this is cope... a man with social anxiety so bad that he can't do his job properly isn't the type of person to laugh at hate comments

>>43842623
He doesn't have social anxiety retard

>>43831363
I don't give a single fuck about homostars but he's based as fuck for ignoring homo crap and going after holo pussy.

>>43839673
Flaygay is a living viewer repelent, I saw like 3 ppl raid him in one day only for the viewer count to spike at 2000 and then go back to 400 or less in 10 min
Dude is talented VA but dear lord he is also the most annoying shit ever to listen to

>>43840288
they're straight men that are meant to appeal to gay people, is it that hard to understand? they like women but they're made for gay people which makes them faggots by default

>>43842728
quit larping homobeggar, no unicorns like the fact that he only wants to collab with girls

>>43842693
ok then there's a bigger yab here that people are starting to catch on to... and you think he's laughing at that? the fact that his reputation is swirling down the toiet?

>>43842375
Also, this is pretty much why I think his suspension was due to the girls. Management probably saw he was getting way too close to Kronii and started getting uncomfortable. They probaly told him to cool it and he freaked out at them.
The worst thing that could happen to hololive is if one of their male talents or employees hooked up with one of the girls.
They would lose all fan's trust and would never be able to escape the accusations of being a mixer. Their reputation would be destroyed. It makes sense that Vesper and Kronii make them nervous.

>>43836027
cope, holostars would be fully indoctrinated into hololive if it wasn't for us haters, don't act like the homos and yagoo himself wouldn't push for that, we (yes we) are the main thing preventing that

>>43842950
It's not like anyone can do anything about. And he knows it.

>>43842539
Just search the archive for vesper kronii steam. You'll find it pretty quickly.

>>43842886
Who gives a fuck about what unicorns think?

>>43842960
Color me shocked that kronii turned out to be the depressed emo slut that wants to fuck her friends dad. She just had a lesbo phase

>>43843053
Except for upper management who might get sick of his antics and decide to fire his ass. They get rid of Rushia, they won't have issues getting rid of a shitter like Vesper.

>>43842886
I'm not a unicorn retard. You can watch only girls without being a complete retard thinking they are pure angels.

>>43843282
You type and post like a tranny.

>>43843367
Keep the cope coming.

>>43831363
What the fuck, he actually says 'yabba dabba doo' that isn't just shitposting?

>>43843164
There's no such thing as a real lesbian. Just a bi slut that wants to fuck women more often to spite the men in her life

>>43843474
He was repeating what some retard from /here/ was spamming in chat

>>43843511
There are plenty of women that absolutely hate men.

>>43831853
I would like to believe more if this is from his fan, but it just a containment breaker from here.

>>43843620

>>43843620
Well as a man I also fucking hate women so there's that

>>43843474
That's literally his catchphrase.

>>43841475
I don't know if you're paying attention but starsfans are now starting to shit on him too because everyone can tell her dodges starscollabs while joining every collab with women in it. This isn't a fucking coincidence anymore.

>>43843671
SOURCE: the voices in my head

>>43843899
she and picrel don't like men. I'm not an anti I'm a member of them both but it's true. They both have daddy issues, they both avoid male collabs, and they both have expressed disappointment over how male their fanbases are

>>43843053
they can stop watching? it's the same reason why mori used to be the second most popular holoEN and then a bunch of drama happened and she lost a bunch of viewers... she still has some viewers, but only because she was super popular in the first place so half of her viewers leaving resulted in mori just doing average compared to her genmates, but she did objectively lose a bunch of viewers from it

>>43842491
>have Pizza dad
>have
lol

>>43843671
oh is that why she was so dissapointed that axel didn't invite her to the good end night song collab? because she hates him so much?

>>43844053
Kiara is a me monster. If she wanted to collab with Axel she could just ask him. She's moreso upset over being left out of something Ina originally planned.

>>43843983
she said she wanted to be in axel's song collab and she's tweeted at them multiple times (kiara that is, mumei i could believe considering she did one homo collab and avoided them like the plague ever since)

>>43842960
It would also explain why he doesn’t really collab or support the boys anymore besides Magni, since that’s not why he’s there.
Maybe that’s also why they rushed out Gen 2, they had a bad feeling about Vesper and wanted some more talents just in case he genuinely needs the boot.

>>43844118
keep coping buddy, she tweets at tempus too... what cope do you have for that? she has literally tweeted at axel himself... oh but surely he hates him and every other man, that's why she wanted a bigger ass on her 3d model, because she wants less men watching her

>>43843899
She literally hates every single one of his male viewers, she is the ultimate lesbo schizo, any chance she gets to shit on men behind the scenes she does it, the only thing keeping her from going on a "kill all men" rant is the retards at kfc that donate 1000 dollars supuas each stream

>>43844233
oh yeah? is that why she begged for her 3d model to have a bigger ass? to scare off the men?

>>43843663
Why do retards still think the meme dislike extension means anything? It takes a rough estimate of what it THINKS is the real amount of dislikes and that's what it presents

>>43844207 (me)
*but surely she hates him

>>43844207
she does the bare minimum of mentioning/interacting with Tempus on twitter only because she's a company woman, she doesn't want to interact with men but doesn't want to be a unicorn baiter because >>43843671 so she interacts with them on twitter but never actually collabs with them.

>ass
holy shit you really think she wanted a bigger ass so some greasy dudes can shmeat their meat to her? no she wanted it for money and because she wants women to lust over her

>>43844298
which would be accurate if those numbers were the same in every video... but they're not, for example, hologirls generally have like 30 dislikes according to the bot, and yet tempus collabs get 10 times as many dislikes according to the extension... which might not translate to it having exactly 10 times as many dislikes... but it certainly means that those videos have *more dislikes then others, and clearly by a substantial enough amount that the extension recognizes it

Honestly don't like how this is progressing, the longer he puts off telling the truth about ghosting his genmates the worse it will be when the truth comes out. This is just a yab waiting to happen.

>>43844166
The fuck are you smoking? If they wanna fire him they could do so at any time, there's no logic it pushing out an entire new gen to do so. It'd make more sense to fire him BEFORE a new gen debuts to make people forget about the termination

>>43844290
>schizo lesbo
Yeah women HAAAATEEE having bit butts themselves, specially lesbians, they HAAAAATEEE when their physically abusive gf has a massive ass
Anons please

>>43844440
>she wanted a bigger ass because she wants women to lust over her
is this what it means to be delusional?

>Sisters are now trying to deflect on Kiara and Mumei
of course the gigastacy and cute girl will make the trannoids feels insecure. It's not hard, they just don't want to ruin their career for a bunch of clout chasing 3view shitters. Not even fucking Zeta bothers with Axel anymore.

>>43844487
he doesn't have to come clean. He just needs to:

A) back out of one(1) hololive collab citing social anxiety. If he does that he can play the social battery hort card all he wants
B) or just do a fucking Tempus collab for fuck sakes. You can't stomach an hour or two of playing a game with your coworkers? Is that so hard?

>>43844440
the "bare minimum" is completely ignoring their existence like gura does, so no, kiara is not doing "the bare minimum" she is actively choosing to interract with tempus because she wants to

>>43844653
>Gura
>bare minimum
My brother in christ Gura does not do the bare minimum

>>43833419
Altare is a SJW, but not stuck-up. He had collabs with people who played the troon killer game after his support the cause comment. He doesn't care that much.

>>43844624
>can't stomach an hour or two of playing a game with your coworkers? Is that so hard?
But anon, that's what he's doing by doing this and previous mixed collabs

Jesus, this branch has had more yabs in 6 months than all of HoloEN in their entire history

>>43844691
What does she do then?

>>43844764
I think that anon meant
>can you just collab with someone outside of Magni and outside of the expectation of getting a handy or an ERP discord session with one of the female talents

>>43844691
as far as tempus collabs go yes she does... because she doesn't interract with them at all... which by definition is the bare minimum, she can't interract with them any less then never... which makes it the minimum... which kiara could also do if she wanted, but she doesn't, she chooses to interract with tempus because she wants to, gura, mumei and fauna have made it clear that no one is forcing them tweet at tempus or even acknowledge their existence

>>43844858
less than the bare minimum. She doesn't stream. She doesn't tweet. She "records" constantly but has one orisong in two and a half years

>>43844883
I know. I was being cheeky

>>43843470
You are one, aren't you?

>>43844624
There is no fixing this, not as long as this board exists, every single yab, every single mistake, every single little retarded thing that can be misinterpreted by an schizo will come back again and again and again even if they are all proven fake
Saying sorry is accepting culpability
Not doing anything until the next "yab" is the only winning move, be as invisible as posible until everyone forgets

>>43831363
This dumb motherfucker is going to graduate soon.

>>43844501
Except he has all the dirt on them and the girls now. And unlike their JP talent, it'd be a lot harder to sue Vesper for breaking NDA.

>>43844920
we're not talking about streams, stop deflecting, we're talking about how you said "kiara only does the bare minimum by tweeting at tempus" which is verifiably false because plenty of the girls ignore tempus entirely... meaning kiara could ignore them if she wanted... but she doesn't, so she does not do the "bare minimuim" in terms of interracting with tempus because the bare minimum is completely ignoring their existence

>>43845306
No you retarded unicorn schizo. The bare minimum for a vtuber is to fucking stream. That's it. Otherwise they're just cancerous vtweeters

>>43845306
I thought I made my point clear but apparently not: Irys, Fauna, and Gura aren't interacting with tempus at all because they simply aren't invested in the success of Holostars as a whole because they don't care about the business succeeding beyond themselves doing well. Kiara has a German work ethic and wants to see her company succeed, so she says shit on twitter like "it's your patriotic duty to watch the Tempus debut" because she wants to send the message to management that she's trying to help the boys out, without ever having to interact with any of them for real

>>43845458
>irys, fauna and gura don't care about the success of the company
you realize tempus is likely making hololive less successful in the long run right? people stopped watching all of hololive in response to tempus debuting and the boys don't have enough viewers to make up for that difference. if kiara actually wanted her company to be successful, she'd encourage cover to axe all of tempus because they're appealing to conflicting demographics which damages the brand as a whole

>>43845443
nice job deflecting my point a second time, third times the cham
>we are not talking about streaming, we are talking about interacting with tempus on twitter, the bare minimum of interracting with them on twitter would be ignoring them completely, which kiara does not do, therefore she is not doing the bare minimum

>>43845768
there is no correlation between holostars succeeding and hololive succeeding. Cover corp succeeds if holostars succeeds. But unless a holostar ever gets bigger than most of the hololive girls (or even one of them) there's no possible way for hololive to benefit from holostars succeeding. Other than that the girls who like collabing with males have more guys to collab with

>>43845938
ok but that's not what i'm talking about, people left hololive because of holostars english debuting, which actively hurts the girls, same with tempus 2, people left hololive because they thought cover was prioritizing the homos over what they actually wanted which is more girls

>>43846154
that's not true thats just people being melodramatic. sure people like Gabe will bitch about Kronii collabing with Tempus, but he still watches. If hololive viewership has fallen off, it's because the majority of the girls are coasting.

Also, i think this argument is gay and offtopic. I posted the Kiara pic as a meme and didn't think i signed up for this retarded debate. I'm going to Cookout and won't be responding anymore