/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

/#/ is declining

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>43814240
>>43814202
clever you

>>43814237
Incorrect tradition.

found 2 more

Salome is what Irys should have been

Vesperonii drama is hilarious, this bitch even worse than Ame and Mori.

>>43813250
Gura's Thursday is JP's Friday. Although I do think she's out of slipping range as long as she doesn't underperform severely.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>36,538: Kiara (Hololive)
>31,387: Tomoe (Nijisanji)
>30,601: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,968: Flare (Hololive)
>23,478: Kanata (Hololive)
>22,870: Iroha (Hololive)
>22,035: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,963: Ange (Nijisanji)
>19,766: Korone (Hololive)
>19,157: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,525: AZKi (Hololive)
>13,352: Subaru (Hololive)
>12,639: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,046: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,342: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,211: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,172: Necoma (Kemo-Refle)
>10,035: Nerumero (Indie)

https://youtu.be/5hQvARv9WXc

>>43814305
>Gura's Thursday is JP's Friday
It's still, stupidly, at noon instead of you know, at night.

>>43814312
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy
16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal
17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream
18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi
19) Ina (Hololive) - 63,181 - 3D showcase
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,942 - Minecraft
21) Okayu (Hololive) - 39,796 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
22) Okayu (Hololive) - 83,231 - 3D birthday live
23) Hinano (VSPO) - 33,449 - New outfit reveal
24) Mio (Hololive) - 79,968 - Hololive kindergarten collab
25) Kiara (Hololive) - 36,538 - 3D showcase

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Mio, Okayu, Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
41x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
19x: Pekora
4x: Marine
3x: Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Mio, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>>43812250
>shat on Magni non-stop and tried to make him the butt of every joke solely to impress Ollie during their Apex collab
>Near the end of the stream semi-apologizes to Magni and says "I normally never act like this, I don't know what's going on"
Also
>the tempus 6 month anniversary comes up, it's supposed do be a hyped up moment with dual POVs baking things and guess what?
>despite having a solo stream on the same day, he doesn't show up to the collab. again. no shout-out, no announcement, no communication.
A numberfag sexpest, holy shit.

>>43814299
A part of me dies every time I think about the fact that Kronii was the first EN I superchatted and I was around during myth debut

>Kronii graduates
>Mumei goes on a health break
>Bae's parents force her to get a job outside Hololive after school
In the end, Council will only be Fauna.

>>43814331
>still trying to milk the dead corpse of kizuna ai

>63K
>36k
GRIM

>>43814305
Next week or the week after?

>>43814312
>>43814294
Ai has evolved a lot since this mess was posted 5 months ago.

>>43814294
oh should it have been inclining with a 36+k gold?

>>43814383
A gen of only faunas...

>>43813213
I don’t know why anyone would simp Kronii over Kaela these days. Even if they’re different, Kaela is a good enough replacement. Plus she actually collabs with Council.

Vesperonii & Mori shitshow and Magni just reaps the numbers. Truly the personification of Hololive. No wonder Yagoo likes him so much.

>>43814383
>bae's parents force her
bitch at that point she would move out and build her own house or rent an apartment.

>Considering all the pros and cons HoloPro EN brought to Hololive
Was launching an EN branch a mistake???
Would you rather have taken HoloJP, ID, KR and ES instead??

>>43814383
Bae's dad built the cuck shed for Bae, so clearly her family is okay with it

>>43814383
>forcing Bae to spend less time on her 6 figure a year job.
Anon, her parents are Asian.

>>43814381
Bro i even joined her members back in the days, a bit before tempiss was created.
Everyday i thank god i had the insight of leaving and never looking back, sunk cost be damned

>>43814465
yes
next question please

>>43814465
considering hololive would be behind nijisanji andd vspo without their eop and esl audience
no

>>43814465
no
please no more stupid questions

>>43814417
>2nd post being anything other than the General Sites
That's where you fucked up.

>>43814478
Same I got lucky with thinking something was up before Tempus

We live in a world where the female branch has far less drama than the male branch

>>43814383
anon bae's parents literally made her a cuck shed to continue her streaming activities
they are fine with it as long as its bringing in the cash since they are asian

>full tempus collab equals 4k
>mori and kronii are worth like 7k at most
>20k collabs
Bots?

>>43814050
There's a reason that "regular" doxxposts like irl face pics, rm links and pics with the rm name blasted in front for everyone to see get nuked from orbit, yet posts and pics that refer to the rm as "NotHolo" don't get banned.

The former can CREATE doxxfags by introducing new people to doxx from the pic or the link, but if it's properly censored or referred to as "NotHolo" only those who already know rm info will understand, and these types of posts are usually ignored.

>>43814465
If it wasn't for holoEN Luna and Towa would still be sub 300k holos

Fucking Mori force her to collab with Vepser, I knew it

>>43813861
>Sure but Kronii already set the fucking expectation
It's a case of too little, too late. This kind of shit needed to set from debut, and it wasn't. Even now that the shitstorm is months behind and any gachis who care are long gone, it still leaves a bad taste.
Mori and Bae did this early on, not a year in.

>>43814465
No, EN at that time was he best thing that could have happened for the industry and it's expansion.
Myth not being fit to handle the responsibility and Cover taking forever to provide proportional support is what brought us here, but 2.5 years later.

>>43814450
>>43814472
>>43814477
Reminder that they are Chinese-Australian, not SEA
You can have an 8 figures job, but if you have no education then you'll still get shit on at the family dinner

>>43814522
anon. Hololive was already huge even before EN.

>>43814465
>HoloPRO EN
HololiveEN was the only thing they needed. HoloPRO EN has been a massive absolutely gigantic fucking mistake and a stain on everyone that's involved with TEMPUS.

>>43814397
Next week.

feel good watching Korosan playing Star War

>>43814627
No not really. At some point you gotta realize you're being a schizo because she's already done multiple collabs so bitching at an extra one is retarded.

>>43814600
I have saw posting Holo real life names and nothing ever happened to them.

>>43814465
EN, even with its massive fuck ups, is what carried Cover to where it is today.

>>43814683
Cope

>>43814381
I feel lucky that I found her incredibly boring from the start and never got into her. I thought she was okay in collabs when she was just there to get bullied by the other girls, but I can't imagine how much this entire thing must suck if you ever cared about her.

>>43814465
>Was launching an EN branch a mistake?
no, one gen a year was a severe mistake

>>43814578
yes, there is a Kronie who bots her male collabs to "own the incels and unicorns"
but in the end it doesn't matter because bots don't buy membership, merch or sc

>>43814522
>>43814546
>>43814602
>>43814646
>ok, lets wait 3-4 more months when we still dont have EN3 but get Tempus 3 and EN vtubing reclines even further
I will ask the same question and lets see if your answer changes

Grim gang winning!

>>43814652
again, like i said.
at that point she would just move.
why would she give up doing something she enjoys for her family that might kick the bucket in 5 years?

>>43814661
Anon, if StarJP still exists after 5 fucking years, you know it's only a matter of time before they release StarEN

ID, on the fucking other hand ...

>>43814735
*less than one gen a year

>>43814683
People aren't bitching because she is doing an extra one, they are bitching because she isn't doing anything else or give a fuck otherwise.
Where are the Council collab ?

>>43814683
Nigger at this point you're being a retard on purpose when you ignore all the context surrounding this collab.

>>43814771
the answer would still be the same
the 'mistake' is not making the branch but not course correcting on certain elements of the branch that went awry

Oh God you niggers are going to loop this topic for a whole week aren't you

>>43814757
typical korean fanbases

What do [you] like about kaela other than
>"she streams a lot"
i can think of a few but what about [you]?

/infinity/ is super fun right now

>>43814655
Even before EN, hololive is already big even in the west.

>>43814522
>>43814709
Can we stop ignoring the fact that Hololive(35) reaches a new peak every year after EN launched? Just because HoloEN peaked in 2020 then reclined doesn't mean the main branch did you mongrols.

Wawa lewdposter, please come back.

>>43814305
She's gonna slip to Akane 3D

>>43814778
Same reason Mori still go back to her family despite them being massive retards
Not everyone can be a psychopath

>>43814602
Anon. They were both over 250k before holo en...

>>43814725
She has an eroticism that she tries to pretend isn't there and pushes into the subconscious or wherever(proper term for it I can't think of right now)
If she just embraced being a woman, the world would be better off.

>>43814834
oh nyo

>>43814832
well thats why the question starts with "considering all the good and the bad"... we will see how long people have the patience

>>43814780
Yes yes, I'm aware. It was still a mistake, EN3 was needed back in May/June, the fact that they fast-tracked TWO gens of fucking Tempus is an absolute travesty and has irreparably damaged the HoloEN brand.

>>43814652
>No education
kek, where you not here when anons were posting Bae's college alumni videos?
Bae's a model daughter for now. They'll wait 5 years before really bitching about her not being married with kids.

>>43813412
I missed out on the horse compilation stream...
Was there part 2?

Nijigold already...

>>43814898
I mean, consider the alternative ...

>>43814312

So whose at fault for the new Kronii/Vesper/Mori fiasco?

>>43814834
Yes, and it'll keep happening every time this happens, and every day in which EN3 continues its non-existence.

>>43814898
>Was launching an EN branch a mistake???
Answer is still the same.

>>43814962
Probably Mori

>>43814927
>41k
I have faith in Mori. She can beat this on a Saturday night

>>43814962
is it the organizers fault, or the ones who accepted.
that's the real question isn't it?

>>43813213
Jesus fucking christ.. i hope they filter this kinda faggotry for EN3

>>43814962
Pretty sure Mori is the one who arranges all of them. Still blame the others for agreeing though.

>>43814962
Mori for organizing it, Kronii for accepting.

>>43814312
>>43814957

>>43814780
It's the way it was handled that's the problem

>>43814962
The heart wants what the heart wants. Just let kronii and vesper be happy.

>>43814862
Feck, Botan was the surest I've ever been of someone being a success, and #1 in her gen

>>43814960
>thinking retards here would stop bitching and gossiping about everything if EN3 were a thing
RORU RUMAO

>>43814908
if you think about it, Kronii needed Tempus to collab, so maybe the request for Stars EN came from Mori, Kronii and Bae

>>43814705
whether actual doxx gets deleted or not is dependant on janny activity
but you'll notice that "NotHolo" posts almost never get deleted, because it's not actually telling anyone what the holo's real identity is (thereby not breaking rule 1), simply dogwhistling to those in the know to discuss when relevant.

>>43815027

>>43814962
>fiasco
What /here/ thinks doesn't matter that much anon.
At most I'd call it a "bother".

>>43815011
It's both, anon. Now, the question from there is "Who is MORE at fault", and given that Kronii doesn't organize for shit, I'm going to say it's Mori for constantly trying to make this 'a thing'.

>>43814312
>>43815027

>>43814465
It should've been us ESbros..

>>43814725
When Kronii started spamming male collabs I already hated her for pissing away all her potential.
Literally blessed with THE golden voice + god tier model + debut buffs and she goes "actually senpai i fucking hate streaming lmao. enjoy your 5 break days a week losers"

>>43815033
Yeah except after they fuck and she realises he's just a loser she will try to worm her way back to the fans

>>43814652
Chinese-Malay, actually.

>>43814975
>>43814312

>>43815041
Oh of course not, but there will be NEW things to bitch and complain about instead of the same goddamn shit that's been timelooped for OVER 6 GODDAMN MONTHS now.

>>43814312
>>43815086

>>43814383

>>43814962
Mori is the one organizing these streams, she saw the numbers and went for it.

>>43815061
Someone posted Bae's real name here for several days and nobody seems to notice

>>43814375
>Near the end of the stream semi-apologizes to Magni and says "I normally never act like this, I don't know what's going on"
HAHAHA exactly what I did back in middle school to impress the girls KEK

>>43814882
Do you have a timestamp?

>>43814780
StarsID will never happened because it againts islamic rule hence haram

If it were Fauna doing these collabs you'd be going up and down defending her because she gets decent numbers either way. Actual hypocrisy

>>43815132
>>43814312

>>43815139
It will continue until they remove holostars

>>43815061
Dude please, during Mori's lean arc janny banned half of the board just because they made fun of Kakkoi-chan.

>>43814962
All of them

>>43815159
I mean, jannies won't delete it if they themselves don't know about it, so yea, which is why the 'dogwhistle dox without any names' often dodges shit even when it gets reported.

>>43814652
Chinese Malay which is a huge difference due to the malay part which only exacerbates the chinese part

>>43815174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH9dBuHszX0
I got a clip.

>>43815018
If I were recruitment I would ask every entry to tell me their favorite Hololive member and then what they SPECIFICALLY like about them. If they fail that test, their admission immediately thrown into the garbage.

>>43814962
>fiasco
I thought we like numbers /here/. This is likely to get numbers no?

>>43815159
That would require anyone to give even the slightest shit about bae

>>43815190
>>43814312

>>43814312
SHUBA GOLD

>>43815189
>If it were Fauna doing these collabs

>>43814520
>next question
looking at Council now, if you were in the talent recruiting team, would you have selected the same 5 talents??

>>43814312
>>43815150

>>43815082
wouldn't the ones that know about the shipping be at fault?
there ain't no way kronii and vesper don't about how much people ship them together.
so i think it goes to them for playing into it.

>>43815150

>>43814381
looking back, I'm glad I didn't buy into the EN hype train and just intensified my reps when they debuted.
proud to say I've only ever SCed JPs and own two pieces of merch, both from JPs.

>>43814962
Mori for organizing it.

>>43815189

>>43815272
yes
next question?

>>43815189
>If
https://youtu.be/GzlKja1ySzo

>>43815041
If EN3 happened in July, then we wouldn't be 2 gens deep into Tempus at this point and there would actually be fresh meat for Council and Myth to create kino instead of everyone just fucking off into their own cliques and relying on ID to fill out extra sluts. Obviously EN3 members still need to be much better hires than what we got with Council, but i'd obviously take my chances with a new girl gen over 2 shitter gens that only exist to directly compete with another company.

>>43815258
>>43814312

>>43814683
Given the choice between
>do something that causes anger and division and general shitstirring
and
>do literally anything else, preferably some kind of stream for your fans
she's choosing the former. It's just stupid and unnecessary.

>>43815233
For one stream because of dramaniggers but it will damage their numbers in the future. Look at their current ccv even though the last monopoly stream got a lot of views. Even vesper struggles to break 2k now

>>43814869
And that new peak was due to Hololive reaching even further into the EN sphere
if you want an example of a company that failed to get international reach then look at Nijisanji

>>43814465
This is retarded, launching holoEN never a mistake, it just hiring retard who don't care about holo is a mistake and it hard to screen that with holo popularity now. I saw catalogfag even advise people to fake it and said you a good christian just to fake morality with religion.

>>43814381
I dont understand how people got baited by Kronii but I dont feel I have much place to speak since I membered and donated to La+

>>43814312
Is this a meme or did Kiara really win a gold before Gura?

>>43814312
>>43815274

>>43815274

>>43815225
Sakanaa's been on a big rise lately.

>>43815233
im actually ok with it since my theory that holostars loses numbers everytime they try to collab wil females has transformed into a law at this point

>>43815290
There’s no one shipping them together though.

>>43814465
Of course it was.

>>43815353
Bit of an oof there, but at the very least she has a bunch of JP senpai to tard-wrangle the shit outta her.
In EN, Kronii has....Mori. Yea. She's doomed. (Can't count on Gura to do shit, and I say this as a 2 year member).

>>43815335
Then why did the main branch incline and not EN?

>>43814465
Gura remains a gift from the heavens and no amount of fuckery the other ENs get up to can change that.

YABBA DABBA DOO

>>43815403
do you honestly think no FAN ships the both of them together?

>>43815401
You know what? I want more of these collabs now. I've given up on Kronii and Mori from a numbers perspective, but I want to see Vesper get cut down to sub 1k for all the nonsense that's happened over this dumb bastard.

>>43814312
>>43815391

Holy shit schizos are going wild. I can't believe kiara pics is the best part about /#/ right now

>>43815159
People only care about dox if it's tied to drama. I mean Gura had her real name, dad's address and old house's location doxxed and you don't see anyone ever spamming that shit despite all her antis.

So for anons here I have a question: do you think the current HoloEN 3D live numbers and their overall drop of numbers are grim because of management pushing two gens of Tempus? It seems HoloEN’s drop last year coincides around Tempus1’s arrival.

EN3 will keep the tradition of successful gens, trust the process bros
>HoloJP3
>HoloID3
The time of EN will come soon anons, just trust the process

How much CCV will JP7 get? Is it possible to get 200k? It has been a while since the last gen too.

It would be nice if Council ever picked up the slack. This is why we need EN3, EN2 looked at Myth passing them the torch and went NOOOOOOOOOOOOPE. Kronii fucks off for weeks and then comes back to read superchats (???) or collab with Vesper. There were glory days for Myth, for all of them. Not just for numbers, but in amount of streams, content kino etc. Look at me councilfags, can you say the same about your gen? I'll give Fauna a pass. But that's 1/5

>>43815139
My chest hair is telling me there'll be HomoJP 5 and Temspit announce at Holoexpo alongside with ID4

>>43815159
No one really cares about Bae except that one schizo. It's like how Altare is lucky no one gives a shit about him when he said that "support the cause" shit.

Why are they overlapping so hard?
Think kson raided Nazuna.
Also, Lily just started.
>2AM Tokyo
>18:00 Berlin
>9AM LA

anime boston's lineup is so disappointing this year. should I go just to check out the crowds? at least I can hear friend and risu sing

>>43815403
It is kroniis most popular ship

>>43814312
>>43815494

>>43815353
Laplus is at least very redeemable, though numbers wise I still have questions regarding her content choices

>>43815515
That's a high bar you're setting

>>43815332
Vesper's recent 24 hours stream did pretty well all things considered. Their whole branch in general is just declining. Everyone else thats not Vesper Magni and Gavis is pretty much 3view.

>>43815509
Consider the EN audience has a nasty habit of subverting everything /#/ assumed about Vtuber, I'm even more scared ngl

>>43815508
It's a massive part of it but Myth going full lazy/burnt out and council not living up to hype are also major reasons

>>43815290
Kronii doesn't play into it, she uses Mumei as a shield and emphasizes the 'friends' part.

/mans/ is melting down

>>43815509
Rye would've been great for green menhera army girl who's horny for SCs

>>43815514
Fauna gets a pass for what? Coasting?

>>43815515
>200k
Nah, holox managed to catch the tail end of people still having to obey some level of social-distancing rules and masks. It's possible that jp7 matches the debuts of holox, but it wouldn't surprise me to see a slight recline or breaking even with holox numbers.

>>43814305
>Gura's Thursday is JP's Friday
You mean the day famously bad for numbers even in primetime? Lol
Not that it matters, noon working day is noon working day

>>43814312
>>43815557

>>43815509
>implying we’re getting EN3
At this point, EN is so grim I’m expecting Tempus3 to arrive before EN3.

>>43815456
There’s probably someone, but I have literally never seen it being done in earnest on Twitter or Reddit. Only ever see the ship mentioned here.

>>43815498
Kiara lewds are always great. Very few are brave enough to claim that her model is not hot.

>>43815599
shoo

>>43815514
Ministry is unironically better than anything Myth did together in the past year and a half, mythfag. Go back to 2020 if you love sucking on their grundle that much.

>>43815600
For being a princess that will never do anything wrong

>>43815557

En3 missed the window 8 months ago

>>43815535
If you don't have to spend a lot to get there and you've got the free cash to pick up things of interest, why not?

>>43815541
Kromei has hundreds of fanfics and dozens of new artworks each week so I’d be pretty surprised if that was the case.

>>43815621
I concur

>>43815599

Mori's dream of breaking HoloEN so that she can be free of her contract and continue her RM career has started...

>>43815612

>>43814312
>>43815612
>>43815588
While i miss her, i'm glad Mumei isn't able to stream rn so Kronii won't be able to set something up to deflect, but i can bet my balls she is going to go on a RT spree of Kronmei tag on Twitter soon before the collab.
She is really predictable

>>43815658
because if they still sell tickets they'll keep putting out these bad panels

>>43815633
Anon ministry is 2 fucking streams. And "together" ? Forget together, tell me what each Council did on their own. What were their highs.

>>43815498
Sorry, I'm just going with the flow of the thread while admiring shitbird lewds.

>>43814679
her genuine reactions to every small thing makes me feel like a kid again..

>>43815515
maybe if holos hype it up enough

>>43814381
Followed her since debut time, it stinks that I have to cancel before the 1 year badge.
I had hope for these girls, but at least Bae let you know before hand

>>43814312
>>43815716

>>43815630
I was also the anon who wanted her to join in, but sadly I was disappointed. It's true though that she has some good track record now as the ghost

>>43815745
Yeah and it couldn't have been predicted that HomoEN existed during Baes debut so I don't blame people for not caring so much at the time

>>43814312
Can't believe such an anemic 3d didn't slip.

>>43814312
>>43815765

>>43815535
Cute Moom

>>43815690
Breaking it how? Sitting on it?
What really broke EN was ina and Gura not streaming and Ame streaming so much less. Council on their own could not support EN, they are too weak.

>>43815599
>>43815769
rye would have been a ticking time bomb especially if she got into hololive considering her situation is basically hitomi 2.0

>>43815619
>reddit, twitter
You know, any shipper potential on reddit will always be reported right? Even regis and kobo got deleted.

>members bragging

>>43815769
she was never good enough

>>43815825

>>43815854
Rushia was also a ticking time bomb but she still earned $3M for cover

>>43814312
>>43815825

Is this real drama? It feels meh. Though I can't really relate because I hate EN in the first place.

>>43815876
Just search for membership screenshots in the archives. Then falseflag

>>43815690
>Mori's dream of breaking HoloEN so that she can be free of her contract
that would be retarded considering she needs to break umg and not holoen in order to break out of that contract
and that doesnt even take into consideration the fact that she has to continue her rm career without rap or singing if her contract does get cancelled due to umg updated contract clause

>>43815845
>says this when most of 2022 CouncilRyS was averaging higher than Myth and this even worse when you remove IRyS and just keep the 4
>b-b-but Gu
Last time I checked, 1 member doesn't make up an entire gen.

>>43815644
EN3 and EN4 have to be released this year.

>>43815202
and promptly got himself fired for it as well

>>43815515
Depends on the hype and clamor of the box for it but I don't see it especially with how good the JP roster is now with the addition HoloX. I'd rather they focus developing and growing HoloX more for another year

>>43815914
a hitomi type time bomb is a lot different from a rushia time bomb
hitomi never earned anything

>>43814312
>>43815916

>>43814381
She was the first Holo I started following/watching streams. Though it was on ungodly hours for me and I tuned in to fall asleep to. Figured out she was just boring not long after.

>>43815921
>Is this real drama?
Nah. Today is just so boring numbers wise that pretty much anything else gets attention.

>v0.4 of Holocure drops
>stumble across some 2view fleshtuber trying it out for the first time
>they have no idea what hololive is
>video gets several hundred times their usual viewcount
>immediately drops their original content and pivots to making more holocure videos
>fastforward to today; they've devolved into a dedicated hololive reacttuber even though their views have almost returned to where they were before.

Is this ... the power of mindchairs?

So... I don't watch Tempus, where does the whole "YABBA DABBA DOO" thing come from? Scooby Doo reference?

>>43814465
Hololive EN was never a mistake. Holostars should have been earlier if they wanted to knee-cap Nijisanji, which they've largely failed to do outside of eroding some of the new ones. A third set of girls would have been a better choice.

>>43814312
>>43815995

you know, i still find it funny that bae only did like 5? homoEN collabs and stopped after that.
i wonder why

>>43815960
And neither one will be. Tempus3 will take up this year’s EN slot.
t. management

>>43815960
scroll back to last year and people like you were 100% confident that EN3 was releasing that year.... this claim started from June

>>43815960
>Your voice has been heard. Tempus 3 and 4 will be released this year

>>43815353
my sleep-deprived brain read La+ as Lui and I was about to fight you.

>>43816037
are you talking about that blond 2view that inclined from 500 subs to 3k overnight due to holocure?

>>43814312
>>43816052

>>43816045
noooo you didn't just say "yabba dabba doo" is a scooby doo reference.
how old are you?

>>43815556
Laplus has been brainwashed.

>>43816060
Earlier. With open auds of december 2021 some people theorized june or July very quickly.

>>43814869
CCV, yes. vod and music views are down due to EN fans flaking off though.
>>43815335
EN barely watches JP anymore. Go look at the chat percentages of EN speakers today for the JP talents compared to in 2020.

>>43815979
I guess so, I also feel that HoloX still needs to grow more. ESPECIALLY LAPLUS, THAT BRAT BARELY STREAMED ON HER FIRST FUCKING YEAR. But you know they are definitely debuting More girls after holofes, It's just going to be a toss of who between EN and JP will get a new gen.

>>43815868
Sure, but the shippers don’t exist on Twitter either.

>>43816045
t. Bae

>>43814312
>>43816114

>>43816088
the one I was thinking of was a basketball-american. This must be a recurring phenomenon.

>>43816053
Are you counting callins? What collab outside the worms and the one with Vesper has she done?

>>43815908
nice

>>43815621
Her model being so hot just makes me all the more mad that her default outfit is so fucking god-awful. A fucking fast-food restaurant uniform is just about the unsexiest thing I can possibly imagine. Not to mention the entire thing being bright orange.

>>43816121
>she still likes and follow FPS ecelebs on her holo twitter
Not so sure about that

>>43815621
yes, no one diasgree with that, too bad whenever i tried to fap to her model, i suddenly can hear her voices, and it's a boner killer

>>43816045
just google that shit, anon

>>43816052

>>43815943
I think the damage that myth dropping the ball did to EN was huge. I don't know what you are trying to say here, council never had the, dare i say the word, "mindshare" of myth. Sure a new gen would have helped but they needed their flagship gen around and streaming more.

>>43816171
ah you were talking about a fleshtuber i thought you were talking about a vtuber gomen but yeah its a reoccurring thing

>>43816053
Because, she's a JPstars fan. Same reason why Risu and Iofi ignore the EN boys.

>>43815745
so many mishaps in EN honestly, 2.5 years for 3D, at their all time low too. suddenly debuting an ENmale gen, when their EN females haven't stabilized yet. very unpopulated, 10 people that take too many breaks, when everyone is on break, where would the fans go? such a fumble move by Cover honestly. If they still have yet to announce EN3 by HoloFES or after HoloFES. I think it's just pure intentional sabotage at this point. probably some sort of propping up their HoloJP to be their core audience, trying to attract more foothold on JP.

Is it true that hololive streams are getting ddosed by the anti discord now? Can we do something about it?

For Kronii atleast there are good excuses like surgery and holofes preparation, for her lack of streams and this sudden collab
Imaging Vesper and his fans, that guy has not once collabed with any of the new boys, ignored the full gen collab, skipped the 6 month anniversary collab but did the Monopoly and now Uno... how the hell are they coping

>>43814312
>>43816166

>>43815599
I yearn for what could've been....

Stop hating Kronii, >we love males here.

>>43815353
>>43815556
Better to find someone reliable like Watame. You need someone that understands what they have here in Hololive. I wouldn't expect it out of a young menhera.

>>43814312

>>43815448
nta, the answer is incompetent managers

>>43816228
Are you talking about the holo anti club discord in japan that is all over the place recently?

>>43816225
>after HoloFES
How much longer after Holofes is reasonable?

>>43816228
It was confirmed by a JP leaker yesterday, that a DDOS was/is attempted. How do you fight DDOS anyway?

>>43814522
Holojp was already more popular than niji before myth

This Kronii drama is kind of amusing, since we don't even know if she survived the surgery, yet.

>>43815960
>EN4
Pipe-dream, there's 0% chance of EN4 happening in 2023.
>EN3
I'm about ready to check the fuck out entirely of daily streams and maybe watch just concerts/reveals, and if EN3 doesn't come, it'll pretty much cement the decision.

>>43816045
/dbs/ meme

>>43816238
We love numbers here.

>>43816229
Considering how fickle Stars fans seem to be outside of the psychos that fund everyone, it's probably the correct choice for him.

>>43814312
>>43816234

>>43816114
Didn't Kiara say something regarding this outfit and possibly making it possible to show more of the bikini?

>>43816305
do you think she already DID the surgery?
you would think she would send out a tweet or members post stating that fact.

>>43816295
>How do you fight DDOS anyway?
By using a better platform
https://www.thousandeyes.com/blog/how-github-successfully-mitigated-ddos-attack

>>43816333
numbers?

>>43816318
Great thread if shitposting is up your alley

>>43816288
a month maximum, ideally within a week or two. Thing is, they don't want to drop too close to when ID3 dropped, but at the same time waiting too long is worse.

>>43816189
>A fucking fast-food restaurant uniform
Not only that, Huke thought that slapping a sword and shield on top of it would be excellent somehow

>>43816350
huke had the only swimsuit top modeled and they could have rigged it if they weren't afraid of Susan, then some time later she talked about getting that changed but I don't pay enough attention to know if she gave an update on that ever.

>>43816228
>>43816284
>>43816295
For starters report it to Cover and Discord itself. The people that made it are probably stupid enough to have their real info associated with their accounts somewhere. They'll get hammered in Japan for that sort thing.

>>43816132
>EN barely watches JP anymore. Go look at the chat percentages of EN speakers today for the JP talents compared to in 2020.
maybe because they finally learned the rules and culture and actually fit in by not spamming? weve seen the same shit when kobo debuted and a lot of her new fans spammed the chat since they didnt know the rules and culture.
Or are you just gonna be a retard and ignore the fact that everytime a holojp tries the "Hey guys" trick the chat suddenly turns to english?
If you want to actually see a chat without any non jap audience then you should watch nijijp

>>43816351
Yes, it was last week, but we haven't had any life signs since Monday.

>>43814312
>>43816342
Maybe ? i don't really follow her to know about the specifics

>>43816229
He killed his viewers too, went from 3-4k ccv average to 1.1k

>>43816228
DDOS doesn't actually do anything on youtube, they might as well have said "We are praying for Holo's downfall every day" for all the good it actually does

>>43816427
the leaker probably got that covered already

>>43816362
Yes, give me your number

>>43815328
she'll just pull the ASMR and Minecraft cards and they'll crawl back

>>43815916
I'm surprised Chumbuds didn't take Kiara's win as an excuse to post Gura lewds again. it would require less mental gymnastics to justify it than when Subaru won.

lmao
>>43814446

>>43816300
and hololive got popular due to eop and esl even before myth
myth just cemented that dominance

>>43816432
>maybe because they finally learned the rules and culture and actually fit in by not spamming?
Nice joke, newfag.

>>43814312
>>43816350
>>43816435

>>43816240
They need to hire people who have nothing to rely on and holo is their last chance in life, just like the good old day saviourfag yagoo.

https://twitter.com/lilitapuff/status/1629304461696077825
Here your EN3

>>43816453
kek, if that's the case. I'd like them to continue what they are doing and see how feeble their actions are over the past 3 years to see hololive getting bigger and bigger.

>>43816474
HOW HAVE THE WOMEN
NOTORIOUS YASS QUEEN SLAYERS
AVOID THIS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE MEN
EXPLAIN
EXPLAIN IT TO ME RIGHT THE FUCK NOW

>>43816460
More reports makes it more likely Discord takes notice. Your other alternative is taking the Watamate path.

>>43816462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7cWjL2Ly40

>>43814312
>>43816484

>>43816474
Tempus is a fucking joke

>>43816121
Yes but not by the agency you think

>>43816211
>I think the damage that myth dropping the ball did to EN was huge.
That's my theory as well. At the time the pandemic restrictions were lifting casual viewers needed something to keep them hooked, and Myth was regularly missing members or having some members not stream for long periods of time.
Nevermind that gen unity was in the shitter for a long time, which removed more of the differentiating factor of a vtuber stream over a letsplay video or a twitch shitter.

>>43816481
comparing the behavior of early 2020 to the current is night and day anon

*FINAL RASPBERRY TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>303: Aster (Nijisanji)
>464: Finana (Nijisanji)
>530: Aster (Nijisanji)
>603: Scarle (Nijisanji)
>818: Ver (Nijisanji)
>855: Shinri (Holostars)
>952: Doppio (Nijisanji)
>968: Reine (Hololive)
>979: Reine (Hololive)
>1,042: Kyo (Nijisanji)
>1,152: Maria (Nijisanji)
>1,300: Millie (Nijisanji)
>1,334: Moona (Hololive)
>1,381: Reimu (Nijisanji)
>1,416: Millie (Nijisanji)

>>43816481
I mean, that's literally me. Used to talk in english in chats chatting with people, then realized "That's what idiot EOP do, stop it" and mostly stuck to just doing emotes, kusa, and responding to english callouts when appropriate.

>>43816431
She said it got delayed to this week

>>43816499
grass eater kanatan...
abandoned watame...
bullied luna...
Towa...

>>43816118
>>43816205
ah fuck it was Flintstones huh
I'm 31, it's been a LONG time since I watched those old cartoons

>>43816474
those faggots truly mistook stars for nijiCN eh.

>>43816549
>FEBRUARY 2023 RASPBERRY GOLDS
1) Flayon (Holostars) - 524 - Daemon X Machina
2) Ver (Nijisanji) - 538 - Pokemon SV
3) Flayon (Holostars) - 431 - Angels of Death
4) Ren (Nijisanji) - 456 - Apex
5) Aster (Nijisanji) - 714 - The Karaoke
6) Aster (Nijisanji) - 472 - CSGO
7) Scarle (Nijisanji) - 481 - Zatsudan
8) Flayon (Holostars) - 546 - Hatoful Boyfriend
9) Anya (Hololive) - 602 - SC Reading
10) Scarle (Nijisanji) - 558 - Zatsudan
11) Scarle (Nijisanji) - 635 - Zatsudan
12) Flayon (Holostars) - 704 - Mega Man Zero
13) Nina (Nijisanji) - 663 - Zatsudan
14) Reine (Hololive) - 804 - Persona 5 Royal
15) Aia (Nijisanji) - 878 - Valentine's Roleplay
16) Iofi (Hololive) - 478 - Persona 3 Portable
17) Aster (Nijisanji) - 640 - Battle Royale Marathon
18) Kotoka (Nijisanji) - 371 - Apex
19) Aia (Nijisanji) - 606 - The Witness
20) Hakka (Holostars) - 577 - Kirby 64
21) Iofi (Hololive) - 817 - Project Diva Mega Mix
22) Aster (Nijisanji) - 472 - Atomic Heart
23) Aster (Nijisanji) - 459 - Battle Royale Marathon
24) Flayon (Holostars) - 455 - LiEat
25) Aster (Nijisanji) - 303 - Sound Voltex Exceed Gear

>PER COMPANY
15x: Nijisanji
6x: Holostars
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
6x: Aster
5x: Flayon
4x: Scarle
2x: Aia, Iofi
1x: Ver, Ren, Anya, Nina, Reine, Kotoka, Hakka

>2023 RASPBERRY GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
39x: Nijisanji
10x: Holostars
7x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
16x: Aster
7x: Aia
6x: Flayon
4x: Scarle
3x: Maria, Axel, Kotoka, Iofi
2x: Finana, Anya, Reine
1x: Meloco, Ver, Ren, Nina, Hakka

>>43816532

>>43816549
below the Pippa line

>>43814312
>>43816532

>>43816504
IdolEN2 more likely

>>43816549
>303: Aster (Nijisanji)
>464: Finana (Nijisanji)
>530: Aster (Nijisanji)
You're joking right?

>>43816549
I think this should be the final tally of this tally before you neck yourself.

>>43816549
Aster the raspberry god i kneel

>>43816474
holy pozzed gen! dingo deserve to have shit numbers.

>>43816504
>Still thinking EN3 its gonna be a thing
roru

>>43816432
>maybe because they finally learned the rules and culture and actually fit in by not spamming?
Maybe because they fucked off to other places
I know I did

>>43816521
at the end of the day most women just kind of go with the flow, the dudes who get into that shit really believe in it.

>>43816481
I watch holojp and i don't comment english in chat because that retarded, they not gonna read english chat unless they ask it.

>>43816453
Well they cause lag. Streams become unwatchable

>>43814312
>>43816628

Silvervale problems ain't over yet. People may or may not be staging fake suicide to get at her
>8 days ago during the harassment against Silvervale, many news agency was contacted by a group of trans Vtuber asking them to focus on a more important issue, the "counterraid"
>Because Silvervale received a lot of harassment, her fans in turn harass trans Vtuber enmass with name like "neck your self" etc. They are saying this is the real problem not Silvervale harassment because they are already vulnerable
>23 hours ago, a trans Vtuber Ali Archer alleged that a Trans Vtuber have killed herself because of the counterraid hateful comments. It trends among trans community. Ali Archer stated he is in contact with the victim family but when asked for proof he says he wants to protect the family privacy and it sickens him seeing how the community react to a suicide
>
>It is trending and now LGBT+ are posting copypasta about Silvervale indirectly killing a trans woman as if she called the hit herself

>>43814312
my wife is inclining :)

>>43816679
Look if you somehow manage to DDOS fucking youtube backed up with google servers and technologies there's a job at the NSA waiting for you

>>43816679
thats more on yt pajeet trying to fix/add something than the ddos anon
theyve been retarded ever since they removed the star rating in yt

>>43816707
So basically, fake suicides

>>43816707
>staging fake suicide
They should commit real suicides to really hammer the point home

>>43816504
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1510449270
She good. Voice is nice, likes are also nice

>>43816561
Wrong, it was originally scheduled for the 17th, which was two Friday's ago she went into surgery on Wednesday.

>>43816474
Is there a single non-pozzed Tempiss member?

>>43814312
>>43816700

>>43816596
Aster vs Flayon showdown.

>>43816132
I'll help with the data

>>43816740
>Valorant
>Genshin Impact
>League of Legends
NEXT

>>43816504
HER OSHI'S ELIRA AND SELEN. FUCK

>>43816707
I ask these troons post proof and then xir/xer block me.

>>43816740
>Valorant
>Genshit
>LoL
>NO Minecraft
nice top 3, useless chuuba

>>43816504
EN3 will never happen because Omega ran out of lore ideas since he fucked up and made Council literal gods.

>>43816750
Perhaps in tempiss 2 but i haven't bothered to give a single fuck about any of them to tell you for certain

>>43814312
>>43816764

>>43816707
>faking sucicide
literally the lowest scum

>>43816832
Outer Gods time

>>43816740
Holy debuff tastes, definitely a zoomer

>>43816750
Shinri, that man is yabless

Since it seems that people are claiming that Myth current 3D numbers are performing far worse since they already have used their 3D.

What are people's expectations here about Council 3D numbers?

>>43816744
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1626435235452960768

>>43816806
Same mama

I miss Fauna
https://youtu.be/eyZgAbXfsL4

>>43816740
looks more like a recruit to the GAMER wave instead of en3 to me which begs the question will we have our first 2view chuuba in nijien when GAMER comes?

>>43814312
>>43816840

>>43816474
I mean, why would you be more strict with a son than a daughter? Both could become shitheads if you don't reprimand them

>>43816862
So far.

>>43816903
daughters are disposable
sons carry your bloodline and name

>>43816727
I think you really give the pajeets running those servers too much credit..

>>43816884
Gamer was specfically male auditions

>>43814312
>>43816900

>>43816869
Why are you dumb? The 16th wasn't this week.

>>43816037
A friend of mine asked me if I've heard of this game called Hololive. He was confused why it was really popular and was completely unaware that it was even based on a V-Tuber group. Holocure just really blew up

>>43816884
NijiEN GAMER will be all male wave. Unless they pull another Yugo.

Here's a numbers question. How do you think the Uno collab will do compared to the Monopoly collab?

>>43816990
15-20k

>>43816427
For starters, if you get into one of those discord servers, use a fucking scraper to get all the info you can.
Why is it that every one of these people who manage to worm their way into a server doesn't know to scrape all the data.

>>43816945
anon it's fucking youtube. It gets millions of visitors every minute. Do you even understand how a DDOS works?

>>43816972
>pushed back to next week

>>43816903
It's possible for a man to be like Jesus and it's also possible for him to be like Mao

>>43816990
15k. The more it gets done, the weaker of a buff this group will be.

>>43816837
Flaygon or Gaylon whatever xir name is, is a tranny.

Mr.Koro it has been 7 hours, its time to rest.

>imagine being Ren
>Big 1M+ sub roommate
>Good at song writing
>Has a wife who was an internet personality
>Joins Nijisanji thinking that he'd also be a 10k streamer like Luxiem
>Is in Iluna, has high priority of biggest shit thinking that he was the one anycolor was looking for
>straightforward today - 1k streamer
Roru rumao
With all these talks about EN 3, FUCK I HOPE WOLFYCHU ISN'T JOINING EN3

>>43816990
It will do well, around 15k
but both Vesper and kronii numbers will further recline

>>43816955
>>43816976
>Gamer was specfically male auditions
>forgetting about Yugo
Also males+games isnt really a numbers magnet in nijien

>>43816990
it will be botted so 20-25k

>>43816990
13-15k I don't think Uno is as interesting and Kronii won't be at 100% because of her surgery

YABBA DABBA DOO ANTHEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYxcclpQjH0

>>43814312
>>43816964
>>43816990
Depends on the overlap, but given the fact that the homo reclined even futher since the last one, i would say 15k-16k.
Then again, maybe Omega will cook some "surprise" meeting for everyone but those 4...

>>43816955
NijiEN has been known to pander to troons

>>43816806
I think it better for recruiter as a apart of their hiring process to check their history role model, are their behaviour trait similar to their role model and their aspirations, missed this and they gonna get another kronii.

>>43817040
She likes me specifically and will stream as long as I watch

>>43816864
Kronii 80k (if she's still around of course)
Mumei 70k
Fauna 70k
Bae 60k

>>43817014
Yes, guess what next week is? Hint it just finished. Also, you'd know this if you listened to her Twitter space on Monday.

>>43816990
20k again ez

we need more unique vtubers.
we can't have Space autist like Clear and other niche vtubers go unnoticed.
Clear was lucky she got placed as a supporter for the H3 rocket by JAXA
it's these small things that makes you go "huh what other niches or jobs are gonna have a vtuber as a representative."
she doesn't have to be a holo or niji but i just want to see these people pop up more. next thing you know, we get a flight sim autist that was a JSDF pilot gets sponsored by an airliner and get their own custom livery on a plane.
i just wanna see how far it will go.

also, current numbers?

>>43816975
its literally been the top rated game on itch.io for almost a year above doki doki literature club, friday night funkin, deltarune, and some tumblr shit.
I'm surprised seething nijinogs haven't organized a reviewbomb against it yet.

>>43816740
That's a lot of bad games, but maybe someone like Fauna can drag her into Minecraft.

How long can you wait for EN3 before you lose all hope and leave EN fanbase for good??