/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining

If you guys want something to casualy watch, Pakael is on a Solo Master run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PX2an2-68

>>43751838
/#/ just doesn't have the numbers it used to.

>>43751728
just found out that Bettel's biggest super chatters(literally 2-3 red ones alteast every stream) are the same ones who SC NijiENs, so it might be good news but also bad news that maybe they are only checking him out and he risk of losing them easily

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>79,968: Mio (Hololive)
>41,532: Marine (Hololive)
>23,390: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,596: Okayu (Hololive)
>20,558: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,152: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,392: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,229: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>14,036: Minato (Nijisanji)
>13,286: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,619: AZKi (Hololive)
>12,348: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,063: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,857: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,842: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,613: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,350: Tamaki (Noripro)
>10,281: Ui (Indie)
>10,228: Sana (Indie)
>10,053: Mare (Sleep Monster)

>>43750213
>>43750538

Hmm this is a bit on the low side. Not too far outside of expectations but it does look like a weak stream right now. If it doesn't break 3k later that would be alarming.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>79,968: Mio (Hololive)
>41,532: Marine (Hololive)
>23,390: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,596: Okayu (Hololive)
>20,558: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,152: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,229: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>14,036: Minato (Nijisanji)
>13,286: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,619: AZKi (Hololive)
>12,348: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,063: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,857: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,842: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,613: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,350: Tamaki (Noripro)
>10,281: Ui (Indie)
>10,228: Sana (Indie)
>10,053: Mare (Sleep Monster)

>>43751876
>supporting a random jap male instead of pomu a female en streamer

>>43751994
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy
16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal
17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream
18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi
19) Ina (Hololive) - 63,181 - 3D showcase
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,942 - Minecraft
21) Okayu (Hololive) - 39,796 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
22) Okayu (Hololive) - 83,231 - 3D birthday live
23) Hinano (VSPO) - 33,449 - New outfit reveal
24) Mio (Hololive) - 79,968 - Hololive kindergarten collab

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Mio, Okayu, Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
40x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
19x: Pekora
4x: Marine
3x: Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Mio, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashi

>>43751994

>>43751876
Ew keep your filthy 3 views off this board. This is # not fucking charity

>>43752057
*FINAL RASPBERRY TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>455: Flayon (Holostars)
>473: Axel (Holostars)
>579: Maria (Nijisanji)
>620: Nina (Nijisanji)
>624: Scarle (Nijisanji)
>660: Scarle (Nijisanji)
>678: Kotoka (Nijisanji)
>692: Aster (Nijisanji)
>745: Shinri (Holostars)
>753: Iofi (Hololive)
>753: Ren (Nijisanji)
>791: Reine (Hololive)
>805: Shinri (Holostars)
>874: Axel (Holostars)
>916: Regis (Holostars)
>924: Doppio (Nijisanji)
>1126: Hakka (Holostars)
>1133: Meloco (Nijisanji)
>1157: Finana (Nijisanji)
>1210: Kotoka (Nijisanji)
>1226: Ollie (Hololive)
>1447: Iofi (Hololive)
>1449: Moona (Hololive)
>1467: Millie (Nijisanji)

Its crazy as fuck how hard NijiEN is collapsing. How does a company find this kind of conduct acceptable in the first place?

>>43751047
The reason why youtube applies all their bullshit to CCV is precisely *because* they care about it as a metric

They're trying to avoid picrel being written about them

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>2/24 DAILY TALLY
7,711: Mori (Hololive)
5,138: Mori (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft
17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke
18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream
19) Ina (Hololive) - 63,181 - 3D Showcase
20) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,816 - Hitman
21) Enna (Nijisanji) - 15,314 - Birthday Concert
22) Rosemi (Nijisanji) - 7,116 - Mario Party (w/ Pomu, Fulgur, Doppio)
23) Amelia (Hololive) - 14,289 - Mario Party (w/ Ina, Baelz, IRyS)
24) Mori (Hololive) - 7,711 - Dead Space Remake

>PER COMPANY
22x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mori
3x: Baelz, Fauna, Amelia
2x: IRyS, Gura, Ina
1x: Mumei, Kronii, Enna, Rosemi

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
33p: Mori
25p: Amelia
24p: Fauna
21p: Baelz
17p: IRyS, Ina
14p: Mumei
10p: Gura
7p: Kronii, Vox
6p: Kiara, Uki
5p: Enna, Rosemi
4p: Vesper, Luca
3p: Magni, Finana
2p: Mysta
1p: Millie

>>43752093
>FEBRUARY 2023 RASPBERRY GOLDS
1) Flayon (Holostars) - 524 - Daemon X Machina
2) Ver (Nijisanji) - 538 - Pokemon SV
3) Flayon (Holostars) - 431 - Angels of Death
4) Ren (Nijisanji) - 456 - Apex
5) Aster (Nijisanji) - 714 - The Karaoke
6) Aster (Nijisanji) - 472 - CSGO
7) Scarle (Nijisanji) - 481 - Zatsudan
8) Flayon (Holostars) - 546 - Hatoful Boyfriend
9) Anya (Hololive) - 602 - SC Reading
10) Scarle (Nijisanji) - 558 - Zatsudan
11) Scarle (Nijisanji) - 635 - Zatsudan
12) Flayon (Holostars) - 704 - Mega Man Zero
13) Nina (Nijisanji) - 663 - Zatsudan
14) Reine (Hololive) - 804 - Persona 5 Royal
15) Aia (Nijisanji) - 878 - Valentine's Roleplay
16) Iofi (Hololive) - 478 - Persona 3 Portable
17) Aster (Nijisanji) - 640 - Battle Royale Marathon
18) Kotoka (Nijisanji) - 371 - Apex
19) Aia (Nijisanji) - 606 - The Witness
20) Hakka (Holostars) - 577 - Kirby 64
21) Iofi (Hololive) - 817 - Project Diva Mega Mix
22) Aster (Nijisanji) - 472 - Atomic Heart
23) Aster (Nijisanji) - 459 - Battle Royale Marathon
24) Flayon (Holostars) - 455 - LiEat

>PER COMPANY
14x: Nijisanji
6x: Holostars
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Aster, Flayon
4x: Scarle
2x: Aia, Iofi
1x: Ver, Ren, Anya, Nina, Reine, Kotoka, Hakka

>2023 RASPBERRY GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
38x: Nijisanji
10x: Holostars
7x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
15x: Aster
7x: Aia
6x: Flayon
4x: Scarle
3x: Maria, Axel, Kotoka, Iofi
2x: Finana, Anya, Reine
1x: Meloco, Ver, Ren, Nina, Hakka

>>43752115
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
35x: Hololive
18x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
6x: Amelia, Mori
5x: Mumei
4x: Baelz, Ina
3x: Mysta, IRyS, Fauna
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Gura
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
46p: Mumei
43p: Ina, Amelia
41p: Fauna
38p: Mori
33p: IRyS
29p: Baelz
26p: Vox
24p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
15p: Luca
13p: Selen, Kiara
10p: Pomu, Gura
9p: Millie, Enna
8p: Ike, Finana
7p: Regis, Uki
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Rosemi
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

How do we save tempus from the eventual nijification

I downloaded the last 6 months of chat logs from Gura's VODs to check if she lost superchatters

Last superchat sent by superchatter in February 23: 863
Last superchat sent by superchatter in December 22: 295
this is not the amount per person it's just if they sent at least one

List of people that superchatted in 2022 but not in 2023:
敏-ミンMing - 37 SCs, 1SS
Mintstone - 23 SCs
PenguinInABox - 13 SCs, 1SS
BuiBuddha - 12 SCs
Shisno - 12 SCs
Dingo Ringo - 11 SCs
Space Corgi - 11 SCs
StarCreator - 10 SCs
MisterVeeg - 9 SCs
Kaobei - 8 SCs
Mero Nya Ch. - 8 SCs
AbexZader897 - 7 SCs
Scyn Dek - 7 SCs
Flurrybolt - 6 SCs
Shrimp330 - 6 SCs
Zege57 - 6 SCs
One Joke Man - 6 SCs
YBT - 6 SCs
Alligator Wani - 6 SCs
Raquya - 5 SCs
CitizenSnips - 5 SCs
WolkenKatz - the Tower of Bae - 5 SCs
kidloco - 5 SCs
Adam Sun - 5 SCs
ジョJo - 5 SCs
Riverside View - 5 SCs
onionIthink - 5 SCs
片切ユウナ - 5 SCs
Ranivus Ch - 5 SCs
bob - 5 SCs
Rider of Dragons - 5 SCs
Uriq Irrznik4 - 5 SCs
Rasend0ri - 5 SCs
Charles - 5 SCs
np153Garlix - 5 SCs

She didn't lose any her top superchatters but she did lose some.

I don't care too much about this to make a deeper analysis but if (You) care here's the full processed data file:
https://gofile.io/d/tWmooG
And if you want the chat logs:
https://gofile.io/d/nQHBH3
>inb4 dolphin porn
yes, also keylogger, bitcoin miner, ring worm and covid

I found chuubas similar to Gura and Coco, is there more chuubas with similar design of holomems?

>>43751980
About 500 off the 1 hour mark of the last time she played MC at this time. That one was on a Saturday, for what difference that might make.

GRIM

>>43751994 last thread: >>43744084
>>43752044 last thread: >>43744595
>>43752093 last thread: >>43750165
>>43752142 last thread: >>43750221

Every time I come in this thread, I encounter these wall-of-text spam posts. They're flooding the archives too you can hardly search for anything.
What is the point of spamming the same posts every thread? Can't you have a google doc for this shit or something?

>>43752115
Are we allowed to say grim for this?

>>43752237
>eventual

>>43752309
Yes there's like 6 vtubers that are almost identical to Fubuki by the same artist.

>>43752115
Okay guys, EN vtubing was an interesting experiment with some early successes but it's time to shut it down now

>>43752115
we're hitting grim levels that shouldn't even be possible

>>43752384
just add -tally to the search bar you mong

>>43752384
Go back

>>43752384
Just put "-tally" in your searches, nigger

>>43752476
We already passed that though
>20) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,816 - Hitman

>>43752282
This could be potentially but without other data to compare it to it's not very useful. Thanks anyway though. What did you use for the analysis?

Mori did a concert for a JP Apex tournament and then the next day did 12 hours of Dead Space and was the only one to make the cripple tally. Sasuga workaholic reaper.

>>43752416
i don't mean sameface by 1 artist

>>43752329
>>43751980

Pomu's minecraft 1 hour mark
Today: 2317
Past 5 minecraft streams
>2850
>2757
>2610
>2650 (raided)
>2624

So yeah, Pomu is definitely getting hit. Whatever the disease that's afflicting Niji is hitting Pomu too. So maybe it isn't just the Chinese audience afterall.

>>43752384
Add -tally -gold -golds it's not that hard

>>43752618
its called brand damage, the attacks against Khyo and FalseEyeD have finally started to have their effects as shown in a most western adjacent streamer like Pomu.

Give it to me straight. Is she breaking 50k today?

Okay, so there's a major HoloID showdown happening right after Kiara's 3D showcase. In one corner, we've got Reine with a handcam eating something that she apparently doesn't like. In the other corner we have a Kaela super chat reading stream. Between these two competitors which one will come out on top?

>>43752668
reine
kaela's floor is kinda ass

>>43752282
>>inb4 dolphin porn
>yes, also keylogger, bitcoin miner, ring worm and covid
There's no need to tell me something I already knew.

>>43752618
How much of that is the timezone or overlap? Pomu's starting times are all over the place, I feel like that might be enough to account for a less than 1k difference.

>>43752115
Just saying, this tally would contain 3 entries if Fauna hadn't decided to make her stream members-only for no reason.

>>43752678
Did Kaela fix her ban problem?

>>43752668
Only chance is if Pekora shows up

>>43752571
a python script

There was a time when I believed that Mori will keep on improving and one day her music will be be as good as mainstream artist but she actually declined. Her music quality just keeps on getting worse getting worse and her songs views has also declined. What now? Will she ever improve? I hope someone gets enough courage to tell her that her lyrics fucking sucks.

>>43752618
Pomu does have some sisters that watch her. Some of them make fanart of her that I've seen her retweet. As Luxiem dies off everyone is gonna take a hit, even Pomu and Selen, they will just be more insulated from it than say Millie or Reimu.

>>43752750
Miko would be able to carry her to 50k too

>>43752282
Completely nonsensical methodology.

>>43752093
>455: Flayon (Holostars)
Amazing, didnt he have the highest debut stream numbers from tempoop?

>>43752384
Quick! Back to our safe space!

>>43752765
Sounds like you're a hater who hates how your boy's getting that yukicheese
Tanoshi~

>>43752803
yes but hes always been the runt otherwise since week 1 anon, its not surprising at this point

>>43752668
Maybe. But I don't think she will.

>>43752659
>Brand damage
Do people really though? If my oshi isn't involved specifically in drama of the company why would I give a fuck and stop watching

>>43752845
western mentality, if pomu is your oshi you wont care but casual viewer might

>>43752803
I mean Altare has the highest subs out of all of them and still shits the bed every time he streams.

>>43752618
Minecraft is probably one of the game which most sisters watch of Pomu. Of they sisters have dropped harder, then her tomodachi life streams will probably see the biggest fall, those have a ton of sisters watching

>>43752845
Yes they do. A decent number of people stopped watching Tempus when Vesper got suspended and never came back.

>>43752845
because your money is going to that company, if they are fucked up enough youll just pressure your oshi to leave it instead

>>43752618
Didn't Pomu always say she had like 70% male viewership or something like that (as compared to Holos who typically have near 90%)
Pomu still had sisters and I imagine to a certain extent everyone in NijiEN did and that group is getting filtered out over time.

>>43752845
Consider that there are people that shit on Hololive purely because >muh eye dolls

>>43752720
Starting times
Today: 4:00
past 5 streams:
>13:00
>4:00
>4:00
>13:00
>3:00

So basically she starts either in the morning, or the afternoon.

>>43752827
No not really i used to be a fan but dropped her after her embarrassing performance in last Holofes. I expected rockstar Calli but instead I got a cringe performance who couldn't even give a decent performance. It was so fucking cringe. And yeah her first album's tite song Unalive was bad like oh my god what the fuck was that song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mnTLVBrkog
>Removed because of deceptive practice / scams
Kaelas first Yab?

>>43753147
It's not a yab non corpo people need to give a shit about

>>43753147
dafaq?

Did Mori's music quality improve? Is she as good as Suisei now?

>>43753147
>Kaela the scammer
Never trust indos
Never trust em'

>>43753147
she shouldnt have said she wasnt cute

>>43753147
OH Shit
If Youtube's going to crack down on this shit, how hard will the nijiENs get fucked?

>>43753147
Heh, and you guys doubted the power of Milliemage. ;)

>>43753234
she peaked at Live Again

>>43753147
did she keep the vod?

>>43753364
Red*

>>43753147
what stream was this?

>>43753354
>If Youtube's going to crack down on this shit, how hard will the nijiENs get fucked?
What shit? What did she do?

>>43753458
her members only stream

>>43753458
She was asking her viewers for their credit card info so she could buy more money in a gacha.

>>43753458
im guessing it was the unarchived karaoke

Holobros we lost him

>>43753234
No and no.

>>43752668
Probably gonna hover in the lower 40s until something bigger happens. If Pekora is in it maybe.

>>43753515
Thank fucking god keep this annoying faggot away

>>43753478

Is the stuff that's happening to Niji some kind of corporate sabatoge? Why is this happening?

Daily reminder that Nasim did nothing wrong

>>43753515
how do you lose a leech, i need to learn the technique

>>43753147
the Melon Usk bots got her...

Moom?

>>43753587
But he buys Holomerch

>>43753573
spammed a lot of streams, that's her problem

>>43753649
currently menheraing

So i wonder what Anykara's next VTA graduate wave is going to be are they going to do another female only one or are they going to follow up this one with super shilled/advertised male wave or are they gong to the debuff route with a mixed gender wave

>>43753658
oh no he bought 1 merch then i guess he can do all the leeching he wants and take money to promote nijiEN shit on his channel

>>43752668
>First outfit: didn't get 50k
>Second outfit: didn't get 50k
>Third outift: didn't get 50k
>Fourth oufit: didn't get 50k
Let see if a 3d showcase can help her

>>43753649
Karaoke rebroadcast relay on the weekend!

>>43753649
moom a little to hard and is on break

So this is supposed to be a major fucking endeavor, right? Got voice actresses, former AKB-sideproject idols, and whatever remains of the corpse of Kizuna Ai's management team behind this.... and look at the fucking numbers. Not even 10k views on their hour long promo video. 2.5k subscribers for the channel. What the fuck is going on. They're debuting TOMORROW and there's TWO fucking people in the waiting room.

>>43753800
Ony family member die isn't it?

>>43752949
Certain brand damage also affects the streamer. I stopped watching any nijiEN stream after Luxiem because I hated Vox and Mysta so much.

>>43753515
>dumb spic got scammed by the infiltrated antis (>>43739279) into watching nijis

Well I don't know what the fuck you numberfaggots did, but I am 100% certain you are behind the decline of Luxiem. You are clever and intelligent, and very devious people. It was you, I know it was you.

So as a Niji fan, thank you. I've been sick to death of fujos polluting the fandom and the women becoming whores sucking luxiem dick. I tip my hat to you good sirs.

>>43752765
>I hope someone gets enough courage

how are mori schizos this delusional? How has it ever been courageous to shit on mori?

>mumei return stream
>reads SC asking about animal
>Who's that?
Would be peak kino if she does this ngl

>>43753798
her first got 71k though?

>>43752668
I said 45K yesterday and I will say it today. I'd be glad to see her go over 50 but I don't see it happening.

>>43753814
is it 5 or 15 debuts? anyways fucking grim

>>43753931
All me.

>>43753798
>>First outfit: didn't get 50k
Wait that has to be wrong.

>>43753943
Finally truly our girl.

>>43753943
True that.

>>43753943
>interacts with chat
>can never be a whore
>numberfag
unfortunately
>piloted by an autist male

>>43753954
>>43754001
he's the egg

>>43753814
>They're debuting TOMORROW and there's TWO fucking people in the waiting room.
yeah, me

>>43753931
I told Vox to make fun of Sonny's mom

>>43754055
>can never be a whore
Didn't she say she had a boyfriend?

>>43753957
3 teams of 5. All 15 will be debuting. Just think how many resources that is.

>>43754055
>can never be a whore
dyrbi

>>43753814
never heard of them

>>43752668
I choose to BELIEVE in the chicken today

>>43754096
yeah, me

>>43752158
wtf when did the blue homo got gold????

>>43754138
That's expected anon, you speak English. Still, it's fucking atrocious for what seems to be a fairly large and expensive project.

>>43754181
Wasn't it on a day when literally no-one in EN streamed and he did a collab

>>43752668
I will say that it's possible, that's the best I can do

>>43754181
When both HoloEN and NijiEN were prohibited to stream on his birthday.

>>43753936
I mean someone has to tell her that her lyrics sucks otherwise she won't improve

Wait, cover pays for talent's youtube premium?

>>43754065
And me

>>43754286
Yes. Mumei has joked about this a lot.

>>43754207
For instance, there's a damn anime already in planning that will feature these girls. Why in the ever sweet fuck would they greenlight all this media and then completely forgot to fucking advertise the debuts? It is completely mindboggling.

>>43754286
yea mori had said so some time ago

>>43754281
A bunch of people tried telling her. But shes moving away from rap so that might help things. Pic related

>>43754121
>>43754349
Is there some big company somewhere background or who pays all this?

>>43754286
It's Cover's account after all.

>>43754286
They have to, since they're the account owners.

>>43754466
(me) it reads right there, I'm blind

>>43752039
>supporting nijichink
big yikes

>>43754055
>can never be a whore

>>43754549
hearty hearty hearty hearty

>>43754349
Oh, looks a PV is already out. Look at this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlS3sdzsjOU
Then look at the numbers >>43753814
You'll so why I'm so fucking baffled.

>945 waiting
>technically 5 hours to go
is she winning or losing?

>>43752158
>10p: Pomu, Gura
Literally the same level of vtuber

>>43754609
waiting numbers before the last two hours are pretty much pointless to think about.

>>43754609
6*

>>43752057
This is the only stream that matters today, numbernigger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC3ohvyBVjk

>>43754596
maybe its a money laundry scheme

>>43754450
Yikes if that's her plan I'm glad I moved on nothing can help her now. I just went and listened to her new songs but most of them still have cringe lyrics. The only decent one was the one with the amalee.

>>43752845
Maybe not your oshi, but probably not going to tune it to someone else casually or check out the next gen debuting.

>>43752668
I'll give her 35k floor

>>43752668
if she gets 40k I'll call it a win. 50k is kneel

>>43754684
whore

>>43753501
She should've said "this is just a joke, youtube" in the middle of her sentence.
The intern who handled the report doesn't have the time to watch the rest of the stream to understand the context.
Suggest her to do that next time, if any of her members are here.

>>43754286
I mean, wouldn't want talent account to get shafted anymore than they are

>>43754596
There's one in A.I. Channel too which was posted December 2nd. It has 463,534 views and some info in description.
https://youtu.be/lbmE9AwMJ-s

>>43754684
jack-kun...

>>43754989
jackposting was a fun 1 day thing those tweets were actual comedy

>>43754988
Well, hopefully A.I. Channel posts something quick about the debuts because it is looks REALLY FUCKING GRIM right now.

>HOLY SHIT!
Watching this clip made me remember (and realize) how strong Kronii could have been, and how strong she was back then
>Aki Tries To Say "Flower" Like Kronii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H-w7gJlr04
She didn't have to do much, just say stuff with her cool voice and she would unarguably be the STRONGEST council bar none, and one of the strongest 2021+ debuts across the industry

Is >>43753573 edited?
Not seeing the reason on my end.

I guess Ina and Koyori both shilling counterside today. Honestly any reasonable gacha, i'd give a try but that shit's crazy high dollar.

>>43754970
I wonder if youtube give some sort of preferential treatment in algorithms for people with premium

>>43755107
if the event is happening again then that means those who did it for free will have 2 skins?

Numbers?

Giriwaru will be back soon, now with YAGOO as guest

>>43755064
Give it time anon this looks like the love live killer with how there mixing 3D girls and 2D girls and it works looking at kson. Plus if it works it may bring idol culture to the west and in the end it will only help hololive.

>>43755064
They should absolutely do that, it would bring at least some eyes

>>43755081
what were her other memes? I can't remember anything other than subway, powerwash sim addiction and flower

>>43755081
Now it all makes sence, kronii is the one graduating in march

>>43755159
All of 'em.

>>43755081
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Kronii hadn't deliberately rejected every opportunity she would be Gura tier.

>open /NijiEN/
>Nijiniggers are literally DEPRESSED AND SUICIDAL over how everyone sees them as a trainwreck thats only good for laughing at their yabs

>>43754951
Ah yes, context, the weakness of all these bots.

>>43755099
nope it changed already lol. Youtube monkey ai realized scam wasnt it

>ame not gonna make it to cripple tally
grim

>>43755259
What is this thin skinned bullshit? Maybe if their talents weren't shit and knew how to keep their mouth shut this wouldn't happen. Just kidding! It still would! Because you had people bitching about Bae bailing on paying for fucking dinner. Even the most curated shit has some schizo bitching at it, just fucking ignore. Christ.

>>43755259
MOST INFLUENTIAL

>>43752845
What percentage of viewers and customers do you think even have a real oshi. Most are just casuals that buy things they like or watch if they feel like it. Brand damage makes some of them stop watching and that costs a corpo a fortune.

>>43754349
Cheetahman

>>43755259
the levels of cope in that image kek

>>43755339
I cant wait for holofes to be over so I dont have to deal with these dogshit hour streams, instead ill just have to deal with inconsistent stream hours in the usual slots

>>43755358
Remember people making threads for a week because Fauna didn't want to eat contaminated rice as if it was some fucking yab

>>43755259
>it's all holofags fault!
it's sad, really

>>43753814
Someone is jumping out of a building for this. No way it makes money.

>>43755179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my3t9NUIxB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrL2UhFpxJU

>>43753814
this >>43754138

>>43755179
>subway, powerwash sim addiction
These were not memes, they were forced memes by the very same audience that got her into "vesperonii" after she had already sank her initial momentum and audience.
One of her claims to fame back then was
>bunkeronii
A very cool compound she build and that became a MUST STOP attraction when the servers were merged (similar to what Kaela just built underwater in the merged server)
But Kronii back then put the effort and leaned on her biggest strength: HER VOICE!
Here is one example
>Kronii Spice Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ialcCzO_7bk

Kronii didn't have to do ANYTHING, just pop up on Minecraft server once a week, read some funny lines in her SC reading stream once a week and she would one of the strongest chuubas in the industry right now

>>43755452
there are no other vtuber fans, all of them are holofags, you need to learn about it anon, even those vshojo fans who hate hololive are holofags

>>43755358
>What is this thin skinned bullshit?
It's a natural course. Nijitrannies shed their skins pretty often

>watching japanese 2view playing holocure on youtube
>she starts lamenting about views and asking in broken english how to appeal to kaigainiki
>her chat suggests making a tiktok, playing apex and making youtube shorts

sometimes, it is hard to tell whether all of you are insane or if everyone outside of here is

ccv frozen on yt?

>>43755258
ok thats going too far

>>43755259
>30 person group cope
Most of their drama either comes from fans themselves or same few of their chuubas.

>>43755174
>>43755172
>millions of dollars from traditional media company with big names and real seiyuu
>a few thousands views
>grabbing randoms from the nnd circles and the twitcast scene
>license to print money

>>43755259
>no, WE are the victims
Motherfuckers have the gall say this when they have done everything they can to libel, slander and misrepresent Holos to make them less appealing to normies with their "toxic idol culture" and "muh parasocialism" spam. Fuck em.

>>43755629
To be fair shorts can give pretty good results if they are good and reflect your content

>>43755629
>making a tiktok, playing apex
lol

Oh nice!
https://tokinosora-fc.com/live/sm5xjthKmxZd4eZBrEt8wbP4

>>43755697
This, like fucking hell, the niji fanbase is the most vile and malicious fucking entity in vtubing

>>43755629
>her chat suggests making a tiktok, playing apex and making youtube shorts
kek, the funniest thing is that nip TikTok and burger TikTok are two completely different beasts.
There will never ever EVER have any overlap between both, and nips won't EVER understand burger TikTok and vice versa.

The GenXer analogy would be that Seinfeld attempt to pitch their (in universe) sitcom to a Japanese TV owner which didn't get what was funny about "a show about nothing" and could never get.

>>43755259
Don't know why these pussies are complaining since Hololive fans have to deal with worse for insignificant 'yabs'. Shit, they have to deal with rrats that have been repeated so many times that people believe they're real.

>>43755179
She stopped creating memes because she refused to stream, refused to play anything that could produce great content, and refused to collab. Kronii just doesn't do anything.

>>43755629
>sometimes, it is hard to tell whether all of you are insane or if everyone outside of here is
We need a chuuba that has /#/ as her manager.

>>43755629
i don't think it's a good idea play apex to appeal to westerners, that's just trying to attract fps fans from japan

>>43755259
Be careful, because it could've been posted by an actual nijipancreas

>>43755629
>2view
>appeal to kaigainiki
Global tourists won't go looking for small, unknown restaurants that do not have any google reviews
It's better to establish a local presence first

>>43755821
Judging by our results in divegrass...

>>43755141
Nah, just a better Youtube experience, and als extra perks
At least unskippable ad won't be one of your concern anymore

>>43755464
I also found out that they (at leats 5 of them) already have 3D models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frlSQtMLAP4
There is so much spending for this project it's crazy. I made a thread here >>43755581

>>43755259
funguschama...

>>43755655
yabmakers: Enna, Finana, Millie
never heard big yabs from the others (i'm only talking about females)

>>43755259
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>our company isn't yabcentral it's just THOSE DAMN HOLOSPIES lurking every stream trying to fish for drama!

>>43755802
"THEY HATE THEIR FANS"
"THEY HATE EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T COLLABED"
"OH MY GOD SHE BAILED ON DINNER DESPITE PROMISING TO TAKE THEM OUT SHE"S A BAD PERSON"
"OH MY GOD SHE MADE BAE AND MUMEI UNCOMFORTABLE"
"OH MY GOD SHE CALLED HER A BITCH IN FRUSTRATION SHE HATES HER"

Literally day in and day fucking out. Then you have actual dedicated schizos shitting up not only the catalog, but threads (like here or global) about how much they hate x. Or that retard constantly trying to start fanbase wars (also here or global). Like jesus fuck, this is from a group that DOESN'T ACTUALLY yab constantly.

>>43755960
>1 waiting
kek DOA

It has been awhile since I peek on global, I want to see their pre-post about Kiara showcase. The fuck happened to that place? It's even worse than I used to remember

>>43755821
I don't think anyone in here should be in charge of managing anything.

>>43755259
I'm actually used to be neutral until all out war discord leak.

>>43755556
Powerwash was legit I think but the sandwich thing is the most psyoped meme I think I've ever seen in my life. It was natural at all she just get posting about sandwiches after being on break for a month due to drama

>>43756027
most of the girls have some yab to their name. I don't think theres actually a regular offender for stuff that gets twitter actually riled up. I guess Petra and Nina have the collective scorn of the sisters.

>>43756164
>>43755556
No Powerwash was definitely legit. Her actually pushing her FE stream because she was excited for the update wasn't some fake shit.

>>43755259
>rrats are winning
>we don't have enough soldiers

fucking retards, one of yous could just spam
>proof?
and call the rratpeddler a retard if there's no proof
bam, rrat slayed

>>43756132
That was probably critical point when Holofans start to anti Niji but I won't blame them. Fungus and co deserves it

>>43755712
shorts only give the deadest of subs

>>43755259
kek

>>43756226
It's not really a rrat when they have proof..

>>43756132
I always hated nijiniggers, but that screenshot revealed that the viewers truly mirror the streamer

>>43756194
But the Nina yabs are due to males, and only sisters have a problem with that

>>43756164
>Powerwash was legit
>>43756220
>Her actually pushing her FE stream because she was excited for the update wasn't some fake shit.
True but that doesn't make it a meme, just regular excitement for a game.
It was an attempt to "rebrand" away from being a fixture on Minecraft and get a different signature game.

>>43756226
Good luck slaying the nijiEN rrats
https://streamable.com/dhslxy

>>43755259
can't fucking wait for gamer wave to hit and thin the blood even more to laugh at those bunch of failures while they fight for scraps.

>>43755960
What if one of those girls said no to JP7? That'd be a good rrat.

>>43756394 (me)
Seems like they took down the "Mysta threatening to fuck your oshi"-clip

>>43756394
link's dead m8

>>43756226
theres plenty of proof kek

>>43756376
the guys hated her too for taking advantage of luxiem's success, and nina went on to admit that she did abandon her old fans to pursue luxiem shit

>>43756379
It's just something about Kronii and kronies. They just will make anything a meme if they get the chance.
You don't really see the same for the other girls. Like Mumei has done multiple self deprecating bits about being an FPS addict but it's not a meme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Z9dPHKS3Q
I am calling it now, its a 45-50k stream, the only thing that can take it pass 50k is if she has buff JP guests and she sings and dance atleast 40 mins for it to incline

>>43756226
>one of yous could just spam
>proof?
>and call the rratpeddler a retard if there's no proof
>bam, rrat slayed
I wish I was young and innocent like that. The burden of proof in the internet is essentially
>came to you in a dream?
>Well, evidence accepted into the court records!
Only retards think unbacked unproved statements don't hold weight online.

>>43756437
>can't fucking wait for gamer wave to hit and thin the blood
I mean the gamer wave so far looks to be the strongest nijisanji wave yet if the graduation list is correct. I even say this is probably the jolt of life nijisanji needs after iluna damage the brand

>>43756603
>/#/ of all places overestimating Kiara's numbers
It's gonna be 30-40k dude.

>>43756563
>They just will make anything a meme if they get the chance.
That's not how memes are made, in the same vein Milhouse will never be a meme

Lmao, you can just buy holo fanclub memberships no problem even as euro, you just can't fill out your personal info

>>43756606
It's not that, it just needs to be repeated enough times without anyone calling the lie out for it to take hold.

What 3 HoloJP guests could Kiara have today?

>>43756633
so another 5-6 months of sisters shitting up and down the core audience of the girls coz muh manjisanji while infighting and stealing paypigs from luxiem, either way it will be great.

>>43756660
You say that but somehow the sandwich thing stuck and that was 100% kronii trying to make a meme

>>43756658
>Saying 50k is overpredicting
Grim

>>43756726
First, big assumption that every showcase has the same format.
Second, Nene all but confirmed, possibly Subaru because they were recording something, who knows about #3.

>>43756132
the discord leak showed that they have inferiority complex, them having a lot of freedom made it to never improve themselves, and i think it's worse that they don't even have a personal manager, that's why the vent channel leak was full of "luxiem was a success, that's why they are making their own EN male vtuber branch, they are trying to copy it"

i may be wrong because i don't understand english countries

>>43756633
>I mean the gamer wave so far looks to be the strongest nijisanji wave yet if the graduation list is correct
you know people said the same shit about ethyria, and what happened to them? maximum 3view, some of the worst numbers nijien had ever gotten. wouldve been dead in the water if luxiem didn't attract a new audience.
and if xsoliel didn't save nijien, gamer wave wont either. nijien really needs a miracle right now for their new debuts to not cannibalize themselves even more

do we have a guess of whos making the most total money nowadays?

>>43756559
but that's not a big yab

>>43756797
Watame would be my guess. Outside chance at Flare maybe.

>>43756802
>"luxiem was a success, that's why they are making their own EN male vtuber branch, they are trying to copy it"
it's 100% true and you know it, and now we have to suffer shit like
>Altare

>>43756726
subaru + pekora for numbers
nene because she is her friend

>>43756726
Ofriend: Nene
Holobird: Subaru
Oshi: Pekora

>>43756633
lol

>>43756762
>stuck
In the same way "Vesperonii" stuck.
There is one specific segment of the audience that pushes it, and it definitely is not the intended audience.
It only survives when continuously pushed by Kronii herself, and only with that particular audience.

Contrast and compare with the one in the initial post of this conversation: >>43755081
>flower
In a similar vein with Gura's "A", it gained a life of its own and survive obliivion even if Kronii herself never acknowledged it again after that.

>>43756853
Either Marine or Suisei

Did anyone watch those small corpo debuts today? Any reincarnations in their roster?

>>43756917
Pekora will never be in Kiara's 3D lives for the sole reason that she can't bring herself to ask her.

>>43756194
Wait what did Petra do? I know the Nina thing but never heard of them hating Petra.

>>43756853
In which time span, and through which revenue sources?

>>43756853
Total: Pekora
Merch: Pekora and Gura
SC: Chloe
Ad revenue: Pekora and Miko

>>43756979
Petra's stuff is past life stuff. She streamed on bilibili a long time ago. It did not go well. Only Chinese will care.

>>43751994

>>43757020
>SC: Chloe
In hololive*

>>43757020
Missing song revenue there, with Suisei and Mori likely racking a good dough

>>43756792
I'd say her numbers depend on whether her reputation from Holofes as a pretty good stage performer overcomes her unpopularity to draw some extra tourists. Assuming most of the stream is that sort of thing of course. Dragging out some boring skit will hurt her more than anyone else.

>>43757020
If there's merch I will also put Suisei and maybe Lamy in it, they seems pushing it hard

>>43757062
Ohhh that, I thought she did something directly with the dudes that would piss them off. Okay that makes sense.

>>43756726
Nene is guaranteed
Subaru is extremely likely
Third one will be Pomu or I'll eat my hat

If not Pomu then maybe Marine. Her most desired would probably Korone but Korone usually tells her to fuck off for any collab stuff.

Anyone who says Pekora is either a mega-threadreader or trying to fake expectations for artificial "grudge"posting.

>>43756797
Nene, Shuba amd Marine would be good trio. After hearing Kiaras story about how she spilled her spaghetti in front of Pekora, I am 100% sure that bunny won't be there.

>>43755697

I hate this. I hate nijimaggots with every fiber of my being. Those rabid dox maniac pieces of trash are the reason why I avoid niji and its trash fanbase. Imagine playing victim when your community is known as being the most insane and most obnoxious pieces of subhuman garbage. I'll never forgive them for what they did to Aloe.

>>43757082
There is zero chance they sell more merch than Pekora, Marine or Gura

>>43757067
>In hololive*
I don't think there is anyone outranking Chloe right now since her debut. Even the other strong contender (Vox) is trailing her 1.28M vs 1.16M

>>43757020
>Total: Pekora

>>43757020(me)
Total: Pekora
Merch: Pekora and Gura
SC: Chloe
Ad revenue: Pekora and Miko
Album & Music: Suisei
Sponsorships: Marine

>>43752668
60k top

>>43757154
SC isn't how they make most of their money.

>>43757165
Pekora 1.5k figure anon, are those tickets 1.5k?

>>43757165
> 4 levels
damn, I keep forgetting how mainstream Hololive is in Japan

>>43752668
50k yes. 60k no. Low to mid 50s.

>>43757215
>SC isn't how they make most of their money.
Holo: Yes, they have 10 different revenue streams
Niji: No

Gura
Gura
Gura
Gura
Gura

FTFY

>>43757215
No one said that, the question just was if Chloe or Vox is the top SC getter

>>43755629
just join Hololive lol

YT recommended me from Ame

>>43757067
Chloe should win this month

>>43757154
Yeah if you take the total sure but Chloe lost last month. And the person asked for "nowadays"
She's still gonna win this month easy, you don't need to cherry pick using "SC since debut"

>>43756979
petra's got like a thousand things against her
>responsible for the Discord leak
>PL drama where she apologized for being pro HK independence and rescinded her support of it
>put together one of the worst collabs in the branch's history (pogo stuck) that ended with multiple ens being menhera
there's probably more. the rest from what i understand is that her personality is really shitty to the point that a lot of fans just outright hate her, like that discord drama with kanauru.

>>43753814
Good

>>43756911
that's why i said it anon, they are using others to cope

>>43757215
FOR FUCK SAKE, FOLLOW A TWO POSTS CONVERSATION PROPERLY!

Here
Post 1 (>>43757020)
>SC: Chloe
Post 2 (>>43757067)
>In hololive*
Post 3 (>>43757154)
>I don't think there is anyone outranking Chloe right now since her debut

If you are going to barge in with obvious statements unrelated to what's being talked at least pay attention to the posts you are replying to, as nobody in this conversation said it was how they make most of their money

>>43756979

These
>>43757307
>>43757062
I know Shu's fanbase hates her too because the two of them collab a lot and are fed up with Petra's existence.

>>43757154
It is pretty close. HoloX debuted slightly before Luxiem. For 2022 Vox made more than Chloe
But if I had to bet on who would make the most of them in 2023 I would easily bet Chloe tho

>>43757307
there was discord drama with kanauru?

>>43757121
Laying it on a bit too thick, sis.

Bettel got 100k and is streaming in 10 mins, I expect a huge SC and member gifts today

>>43757384
Shu has unique fans, not just general Luxiem fans?

>>43757416
Some minor shit apparently where Kanauru said some disparaging stuff about Petra and it riled up some shit on discord.
Pretty sure most people have completely forgotten about it since it's such a nonissue.

>>43757295
>She's still gonna win this month easy, you don't need to cherry pick using "SC since debut"
You are talking about "cherry picking" but you are picking January alone.

In 2023 Chloe is already on 100k and Vox, on 59,7k. I maintain what I said at >>43757154, I don't think there is anyone outranking Chloe right now since her debut.

Vox did outrank her for a good part of 2022 but I don't believe he'll continue doing so in 2023 and, right now, he is not.
He's not even streaming consistently to be capable of

>>43757252
*Suisei

Suisei's success isn't hololive's
She's leaving hololive too

>>43757490
probably not unique. just people with more of a preference to him. they like him because he doesn't swear or bring up vulgar topics.

>>43756792
Compare Kiara's regular stream numbers with Ina's. Now look at Ina's peak ccv for her 3D showcase. 50k is definitely overpredicting unless she has showstealing JP talent as guests.

>>43757282
ame told me to go back to sleep, then i'll go back to sleep, sorry ame

>>43755259
>exaggerations
>outright lies
NijiEN is the one group where I actually don't think that happens much. The truth is usually way funnier.

>>43757490
Yeah, his fanbase skews way more JP than all the other Luxiems. One of the reasons he is always weirdly strong for multipov Luxiem collabs during JP prime hours

>>43757602
>Suisei's success isn't hololive's
The holobox is the reason why Suisei is as big as she is. She leached off her hololive superiors like Migo. No Fubuki scatman = No Suisei success

>>43757561
I'm seeing basically no evidence of this in the archives, just people restating the same claim.

>>43753814
Grim...

>>43755697
>>43755802
This. And then we have the falseflagging discord niggers both from the west and the east as recently exposed. The jp ones actively trying to ddos holo streams.

Behold!
A 3view spider singing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ff2WgvOefI

>>43757817
Suisei knows that a good part of her success is because of the brand but she also knows that Cover needs her star power. It's why she can be bossy with management on how she wants her things.

Bettel taking a bath in money

>>43757817
Either way she's gonna leave hololive soon so it doesn't matter, you'd know this if you visited her thread. Suisei's talent carried her. I mean she could be Mel or Aki if brand name was the only thing that mattered. There are 70 people in the company and no one touches her.

Bettel confirmed a numberfag just now

>>43755259
>motherfuckers did shit
>consequences
>we didn't deserve this

those fags can play victim all they want, but that doesn't erase what they already did

## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) :https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805>>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776<span class="deadlink">>>5591760>>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732<span class="deadlink">>>11015414>>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222>>>/jp/31524177>>>/jp/34129071>>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283>>>/jp/36404268>>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946>>>/jp/31923947>>2689172>>3342175>>3343926>>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034>>>/jp/29352658>>>/jp/34766571>>1843302>>3773035>>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083<span class="deadlink">>>1784574>>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380<span class="deadlink">>>10959272>>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905<span class="deadlink">>>4283312>>24804708)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392<span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348<span class="deadlink">>>14752560>>14752914>>21529067>>22935912>>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896<span class="deadlink">>>8648645>>13972862>>14457547>>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272<span class="deadlink">>>13922827>>14015995>>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805<span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399<span class="deadlink">>>5902529>>15489004>>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493<span class="deadlink">>>12457630>>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803<span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844<span class="deadlink">>>12533326>>12955114>>13021182>>13045705>>13445167>>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553<span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)

And when all else fails...
> #45 Blatant Lying
> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

And after all that...
> #46 Playing the Victim :>>5836502<span class="deadlink">>>11753740>>13804174>>14751831 >>43755259</span>

>there are homos amogus

>>43757986

>>43757874
Good stuff, spider karaokes are great. Unless it's Japanese.

>>43758001
SC numbers are numbers.

>>43757220
it's not only the tickets anon, do you think all those people brought those light sticks from their home?

>>43758042

>>43758077
Aye but you're watching the streams and that's uncool

I was conditioned to not give a shit about sub milestones because my oshi only uses it as an excuse to do karaokes so actually hearing numberfags actually say they want more is kind of offputting

>>43758042
>vox's love slave

>>43758111

>>43758130
well i only have 3 options right now and i hate ame and the red homo so idk

>>43757568
>>43757394
To add on why I don't think Vox will catch up to Chloe in 2023, here is a chart
>Superchat per month, Vox Akuma
He's in a STEEP RECLINE since October 2022, which was already his worst full month except his first (January 2022).

In 2022 HALF his revenue came before May and 80% before mid August.
This is not factual but my speculation: that "your mom is a whore" quip plus his month long break did some damage to all his metrics including his revenue

>>43758056
>Villain Songs Only
That sounds like Disney to me desu, while it could be Japanese I don't think characters are associated with songs as hard

Is gura "soft-retiring" from the streaming portion of the job at this point?

>>43758197
Im watching Noel vod

>>43758285
It'll return to "normal' (3 streams a week) when she gets back from Japan. She's just "busy" and is using that as an excuse to not stream.

AI is now the biggest vtuber on twitch.

>>43758042
>>43758111
>>43757986
Post it on their thread. Show them their hypocrity

>>43758430
deserved

The thing you holoshitheads don't realize is that Nijisanji fans don't give up.

>>43758430
damn I thought Shylily was one of those people who could get like 5k on average

>>43757817
Everyone knows Suisei has already replaced Ado as the household name in Japan. A couple of years and she'll be a star phenomena only rivaled by other pop icons of the past such as Madonna and Michael Jackson.

>>43758505
>is that Nijisanji fans don't give up.
Considering the all time viewer low it seems that they are, indeed, giving up.

>>43758321
sorry that i was busy getting my engineering degree on the pandemic and not learning a dying language kek

>>43758430
Good stuffs, her karaokes are great

>>43755259
Hello numberfriends! I posted that, so feel free to ask me anything!

>>43758547
That's a crap reason to become gay

>>43758430
Tells you everything you need to know about Twitch chuuba scene.

>>43758626
Why are all of you thin skinned bitches

>>43758598
Current stream is amazing.

I think its about time we run the nijifags off the board.

>>43758660
>>43758430
When you consider youtube's wonky numbers the AI vtuber could be bigger than hololive. The 2nd biggest person in Hololive only averages 5k-6k on twitch.

>>43758626
Have you already bought the rope or are you waiting for a discount deal?

>>43758626
why is selen smiling?

>>43758784

>>43758430
I bet both Holo and Niji are rushing to develop their own AI vtubers right now.

>>43758430
>AI is now the biggest vtuber on twitch.
Not only the biggest on twitch, but seemingly the biggest EN VTuber streaming right now
>pic related
These numbers are just sad. Ame numbers are sad, NijiEN numbers are sad, StarsEN numbers are sad.

The only good thing that can be said about ANY of those numbers is
>at least it is not as low as the ones below
GRIMGANG?

>>43758547
why aren't you learning latin? is good

>>43757874
200 CCV get!
Also starting out with TROGDOR

>>43758839
Pomu* that time

>>43758626
Instead of doing le ebin /#/ baits, why don't you dispel the most common nijirrats?

>>43758726
>Twitch chuubas are so unskilled they can't even maintain a conversation with a chatbot
lemao

>>43752750
>implying nousagis like Kiara

>>43759017
We like Kiara, we just don't like watching her

>>43752659
>>43752845
retards. she has 300 less ppl in a stream, that makes no sense.
>>43752949
except it has nothing to do with money

>>43758875
the clown's chat is all green

>>43759000
She's literally mind breaking her live.

>>43758784
retard

>>43759039
like is a strong word.

>>43757992
Most of these are true though

>>43759115
ah right.
we love kiara

>>43759151
Too far anon, some things are not ok to joke about.

>>43759141
tldr

For the record, the highest stream so far on vrabi is
>SOME RANDOM NIJI CHICK EIGHT HOURS IN INTO HER MINECRAFT STREAM
which, if you posted her name in this thread, most would never heard of her and would say it's a made up name.

It's starting to look like the only stream in the Cripple Tally today will be Kiara's