/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

because gura is lesbian and ame is straight

"I fell"

>>4371609
Because of schizos like you. Now kill yourself.

ame knows cumbuds are cancerous

>>4371793
kek

>>4371609
I seriously hope Gen 2 give her a kohai who actually likes her and wants to play with her, so she can drop Ame already

>>4371609
Ame is scared of becoming Gura's sidekick the same way Kiara started to rely heavily on Mori.

>>4371609
well, gura has needy little sister energy, and while it's adoribly cute at time, it's also sorta energy draining for the person on the end of it. I realized this the last couple of colab streams that Gura has a tendency from time to time to really sorta whine a bit and throws a pity party for herself, being a bit of a downer. This is pretty normal for passive aggressive types but it definitely isn't something Ame likes being around, as you can tell how awkward she gets around Gura when she's like that.

>>4371609
Ame said it herself, she doesn't just want to be "Haha Gura's girlfriend." That's not even a rrat.

>>4371783
Gura and Kiara should hook up then, instead of trying to get straight women to date them.

>>4371609
Ame straight out told everyone in one of her streams that she doesn't want her fame to be dependent on being an accessory to Gura.

>>4371975
>>4371922
>>4372010
I bet there will be a vtuber who will be happy to be Gura's "Moona"

I can't be mad at Ame she wants to forge her own path even if she would be more successful as Guras side piece. Even if you disagree with her choice I think you can respect her integrity.

>>4372078
My money is on shachimu since she seems to be a Gura fangirl or at least is on the same wavelength in terms of style. Also she can actually sing, unlike Ame, so they could do MVs or karaoke streams together without Gura having to carry. I hope she comes back as a dolphin so they can have a cute "rivalry"

>>4371609

>>4372442
I hope the rumors are true, seems like a great future partner for Gura, lets just hope it doesn't just feel like a Cover trying to re-do Gura.

>>4371609
Because shippers are fucking cancerous and Ame is probably being smart and avoiding it but Gura doesn't realize. Just look at Kiara's chat. It's got a bunch of annoying as fuck 'Lol lesbeons!' Faggots. Like, is it a funny joke? Of course, but opening that door invites a fuck ton of retards who don't understand it's just that, a joke.

>>4371883
judging at the "number one fan" comment they got some time ago, I do believe Ame is a bit wary of Chumbuds

>>4372526
>Is she gay or european?
Gets me every time

>>4372534
That picture gave me aids.

>this thread again

>Refusing to have more frequent collabs with your friends because chat might say something
Ame is fucking weak sometimes I swear to god, how is that Gura can handle her much more crazy chat by just ignoring it or knowing how to play them

>>4372605
Yeah the cripplebums need to just stick to the /GayGroupersGeneral/ and not make a hoard if threads about some okay vtuber.

>>4372078
This will be another PekoMiko and Moona situation where a new person comes along who proves to be a much better fit

>>4372650
>Wow you wanna play on your own? The fuck is wrong with you?
Because it's a played line, there's plenty of collabs without Ame sticking to Gura like a cookiecutter shark, doesn't have to be a constant collab like gaymegrumps or some shit. If anything a occasional collab makes it way more special.

>>4372002
>throws a pity party for herself, being a bit of a downer.
>pretty normal for passive aggressive types
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where the fuck are you finding remotely close to any of these signals?

>>4371609
Because Gura shot her in the A Way Out collab

Ame likes Ina more. It's why she doesn't mind flirting with her all the time and why she purposefully perpetuates InAme, like when she said Ina was in bed with her which was why she was late.

>>4372002
Do teamates really?

>>4372033
kiara would attempt to emotionally manipulate gura and that's what gura dislikes most about kiara. they are the last two people in hololive i would expect to start dating.

>>4372057
But Kanata doesn't feel that way with Coco and that's why they have the best friendship in Holo, which boosts both of their performances/ popularity. Ame should stop being so insecure.

>>4373272
Same goes for plenty of other Holos who know how to play for the audience, Ame is just retarded.

>>4372442
Yeah, that's not happening. Quit deluding yourself.

Cumbuds and takos need to understand that everyone wants to fuck Ame. Your favorite does not get special treatment.

>>4372002
>Gura has a tendency from time to time to really sorta whine a bit and throws a pity party for herself
Do you have any examples of this? I strongly disagree so I'm just wondering if there's anything I could be overlooking.

>>4371783
>gura is lesbian

>>4372526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyupA7coOvA&ab_channel=CaptPothas

Anyone who unironically thinks Gura is gay clearly didn't watch any of her DMC streams.

>>4373413
How does Shachi having a boyfriend prevent her from being friends with Gura?

>>4373535
He probably only watched that Ina-Gura banter clip from the whole gen collab stream and thought he knows everything.

>>4373535
watch her colab today, first team game.

easy answer

ame has friends outside of hololive
gura doesn't

>>4373608
Even the JOPs get over that rrat and become unicorns again. Baitchama.

Ame is based
Gura is sad and shit

>J and Dante being used for cuck rrats
A sad virgin and a chad virgin aren't good examples also there's two threads about this shit kill yourselves

>>4373726
How many loads of cum did Neet pump into Ame?

>>4373032
this is true, she would think twice or more before doing something similar with Gura, yet she is perfectly fine doing /u/baiting with Ina

do any of the en girls actually like gura...

>>4372002
meds

>>4373718

>>4373360
>>4373272
We get threads regularly made here about Kanata just being Coco's sidepiece. Ame is smarter than a lot of you.

>>4373978
even if they don't, Hololive is a big company, someone there has to like her

>>4371609
Basically ame is just like mori in Takamori collabs.
By sometimes acting like a bitch she keeps the ability of deniability, this is important for her gosling viewership and monthly income.
Of course all ships are fake but sometimes that needs to be indirectly shown by these people to make schizos fantasies seem more achievable

Because she has Korean pussy on tap
Why does she need the shark

>>4374154
It comes off as rude, because it is.
But it is perfectly understandable behavior, like >>4374069 said.
For example Kiara will, for the average EOP newcomer always be seen as Moris side piece instead as being recognized for her talents and abilities.

>>4373726
Really? They were talking about it for months, I thought they would never let it go.

>>4373608
The old nothingburger

Ame likes Ina more

>>4374229
>For example Kiara will, for the average EOP newcomer always be seen as Moris side piece instead as being recognized for her talents and abilities.
nobody thinks this lol. you're trying too hard to make it fit your narrative or antipost kiara. kiara is the one pushing for the ship, people think raging lesbian if anything

>>4371609
Ame is autistic.
Ame is a contrarian.
Ame can't understand concept of kayfabe.
Ame has self worth issues.

>>4374285
yellow fever

>>4374324
Ame is her own worst enemy

>>4374324
You want Ame to be an obsessive little shit like Gura? Look at this, its fucking embarrassing.
They're good friends, theres no need to please retarded schizos that want to see them fuck

>>4373608
she was also dating munibug, allegedly.
>>4373656
there's no way she'd get into hololive with a boyfriend.

>>4373272
You say that like Kanatan being called a leech early on wasn't a whole thing

>>4374354
Poor Gura, she is so cute, best wishes to her

>>4374324
>Ame is autistic.
>Ame is a contrarian.
>Ame has self worth issues.
Only these three are true especially the self worth issues, she probably has a lot of issues with herself like Gura does but hides it better than anyone in EN

>this song reminds me of Ame
>Ame sent me this thing on discord
>I saw this image on twitter with Ame
>Ame Ame Ame Ame Ame Ame
Rent Free

>>4374375
If she doesn't push for the parasocial shit like she doesn't right now then you know your answer towards her relationship status. Just name sure to not become a paypig or gosling for her if she does get into EN2, I wouldn't wish that type of pathetic behaviour even on my worst enemy

>>4374383

why do people say leech like it's a bad thing? that's the entire point of collaborating with someone else, to grow your viewership by drawing from the other person's pool of viewers. the point of corporate vtube is to have the structure to grow new talents by letting them leech off of established members

>>4374375
>she was also dating munibug, allegedly.
Where the fuck is this nonsense rrat came from kek

>>4374322
That’s what I meant, side piece was probably the wrong word

Gura is awkward and probably has regularly dealt with perceived unfairness all her life. This leads her to being a person that desires comfort and dependency on others. She has probably tried making friends but discovers she is not popular at all, but the few friends she has, she is deeply personal and happy with, and this has been her way of making friends. She enjoys personal connection, and invested time to learn and connect further to each other. This feature means making new friends is genuinely hard, as one, the person has to meld with her, and two, she knows that she would want the friendship that means years of investment.

In summary, Gura is eccentric girl who likes deep connections, and sharing her world with, which is a friendship of commitment and time, required by the other party.

Most people who have friends like this, because it was out of control. i.e. school and work, time and location was already chosen, so friends were made, not chosen.

Ame on the other hand, is friendly out the gate. She has little resistance to accepting others and what makes her even more popular is her ability to be a social chameleon and converse with anyone, be they autistic, eccentric, casual, serious, silent, crazy, or angry. She is very well-trained in being able to talk to all kinds, and so is not only popular with everyone, but friends with everone.

Ame is not as beholden to her own eccentricities as Gura is. Gura, in short, has an ego, a sense of self and individuality. This may be due to unfairness and the world not being fair to her.

Not to say Ame doesn't, but the difference is, Ame feels its not important and doesn't believe in ideas of the ego. She doesn't give herself one, nor give other one too. This may be in effort to treat everyone equally.


In summary, Ame and Gura can't work. Gura is needy, and wants Ame to herself. Ame is a free spirit, and doesn't function with Gura's ideas of friendship. She simply finds most of her happy moments with Gura, but she will never grant Gura the credit of being a 'fit' with her, because it was the moment she had, not Gura herself.

Imo, I don't agree with Ame types of personality. They are chill, and fun, no doubt, but discover they only have either family or a few personal friends they have not invested time in, as they chose to spread between 100s of people. I knew a dude just like Ame, and even tho we laughed so hard together, he just had much fun with others. He has had multiple girlfriends and keeps moving through people. Hes massively successful, but I can't help but not relate. Maybe Ame is happy, but my friend drinks and has never kept a relationship and has only his family and has never talked to any of his old friends, and isnt so glad about it.

>>4374270
They were slow af but yeah only nijifags/antis spam that rrat just to cope nowadays.

>>4374354
Can you really call Gura obsessed if she hasn't sent a supa to her yet?

>>4374664
Being obsessive friend=/=being unironic femsimp

>>4371609
ame is ugly as fuck in real life and gura is pretty cute. i can guarantee you this is where a solid 80% of their problems come from. both of them are cringe anime club in highschool tier losers, but gura hasn't attempted to be 'one of the boys' like ame has, making her much less cringe. ame knows this full well. most of ame's 'personality' comes from her ex.

>>4374800
>ame is ugly as fuck in real life and gura is pretty cute
ogey

>>4371609
Ame flat out stated she preferred doing solo content and 99% of the time will not ask for a collab (she waits for people to ask her). I don't remember which stream, but there was one where the chats were basically relaying everything gura said to ame and she got understandably annoyed at it. Ame honestly did the right thing by backing off or whatever she is doing. She wanted her own identity past just being "gura's friend" but you shipfags have to try and force shit like kiara forced takamori.

>>4374857
Let's be honest, and I say this as a teamate over being a chumbud

we all got to loving Ame because she was 'Gura's friend.'

She's moved past that. But it's silly to deny that it was her main niche at the first few stages, and so all of Gura's fans went over to her channel cause she was pretty funny and adorkable like Gura, but with tits.

>>4375012
speak for yourself pleb

>>4375012
Speak for yourself faggot.

>>4375012
Speak for yourself retard

>>4375012
lol, no

>>4375012
lolno

>>4375012
You're wrong, but only because you are insinuating that was all her subs, where Ame is clearly likable enough on her own. Most of her early subs were her own fans who liked her content

But its true a large part of her growth after the initial subs was being 'Gura's friend'.

>>4375022
>>4375040
what about her growth afterwards? totally not Gura's friend subs?

>>4375135
No, Gura collabs definitely helped her growth. Cross-promotion is part of the point of even being in a group. But saying "WE all got to loving Ame-" is retarded.

>>4374324
All true, and I genuinely like Ame.

>>4375166
yeah i agree. as if her fans started actually liking her when Gura's blessed face appeared in her thumbnails

>>4374664
why give yt money when you can just paypal your internet gf as soon as she needs her 3rd gpu?

Because she’s kinda retarded

I didn’t like looking after the autistic kid at school

(Totally wasn’t me)

>>4374395
Id say point 4 about being kind of bad at going along with an act has merit as well and I think its because she has a hard time separating her persona from her IRL self. Therefore when flirt stuff comes up, she thinks of herself being flirted with rather than the character. Or maybe i just need my meds.

>>4374395
Has she ever said anything about autism?

>>4372526
Kek I thought the kfp tranny was a meme

>>4375012
I & assume many others, learned about Holo from clips & you'll be surprised how popular Ame's clips & fanmade videos are. Most of them are about her being a salty gremlin, but then I actually watched her & get hooked by how sweet she actually is.

>>4374501
the reddit discord fan server of her previous identity.

>>4374800
t. ugly anime club attending highschool loser

>>4374829
look it up. ame seriously looks like a 30 year old single mother on a pack a day and two six packs a day.

>>4375810
we didn't have an anime club and i was in the rowing team.

>>4374590
probably the deepest thing i've ever read about gura on this website. i beleb it too.

>>4374590
Quietly insightful post.

>>4374800
while i agree that amelia isn't the most attractive girl, gura also hides behind a lot of filters and makeup when she takes selfies. and let's be real, she's definitely not 4'11".

>>4374590
So Ame is Gon and Gura is Killua?

>>4375611
No, it's real. That's what the fagship pandering does. She's now the lolsbian.

>>4375866
Ame really isn't bad looking at all, she also looks radically different from picture to picture and that doesn't help either. But overall I'd say shes cute.

Gura looks like a child lol

>>4375012
The fuck are you on about? Your brain is so fried from porn that you can’t recognize what a natural qt looks like. Just because she doesn’t have a billion filters and makeup splattered on her face doesn’t mean she’s not cute. Kill yourself.

>>4375866
The fuck are you on about? Your brain is so fried from porn that you can’t recognize what a natural qt looks like. Just because she doesn’t have a billion filters and makeup splattered on her face doesn’t mean she’s not cute. Kill yourself.

>>4376318
I think you responded to the wrong person, but your heart is in the right place.

>>4376256
She falls into averagely attractive, which is fine, y'know. But this place is saturated by people who flip out if a game character doesn't look like a porcelain JRPG character and apply those standards to real life.

>>4371609
Ame treats Gura like a pet, which honestly a pretty big deal for a huge pet fag like Ame. So I don't see the problem.

>>4375974
You're not the first one to come to that conclusion

>>4373668
getting 3 against 1 is a pretty good reason to be annoyed.

>>4373978
What about mori

>>4373668
>>4372002
Yeah? I mean everyone was on her for a bit and she got over it just like Ame had stuff happen and she got over it real quick. It's crazy how people on her can try and spin the most minor into a huge problem, but I guess social ineptitude will do that

>people saying someone better will come along when gura and ame collabs are absolutely insane kino.
Bitches

>>4372442
uUUUOOOHHH

>>4374590
This is precisely why I find Amelia unappealing. No matter how entertaining she could be, everything she does comes off as superficial to me. I would even assume she would deny there's anything else going on with her besides what she shows, and yet she's obviously in control of what she shows.

>>4372683
Yes, a new APEX vtuber which will collab with Ame regularly. Make it two.

>>4373272
>But these 2 completely different people did a different thing

>>4374590
>>4378705
>>4375884
>>4375916
>>4375974
You got everything about Ame wrong, nice. Just a way to show you don't watch her streams which is as expected. Shippers always see people as only vehicles or tools of their shipping. This just proves the fact that people like you guys only see her as Gura's sidepiece. She was right to not give you guys a single crumb about her relationship with Gura. This is why she only say anything about Gura in her member streams. Greynames can't be trusted with personal things.

>>4375935
Wait have we ever seen what guts looks like? I didn’t realize she had any selfies posted

>>4380382
Yes
Also please don't ban me

>>4380382
faces of hololive, on youtube

Yeah this is actually starting to piss me off now. As a teamate. Gura's been obviously in love with Ame for ages and says something to that effect almost every stream. Ame clearly either doesn't feel that way or doesn't want to show it publicly. Either way is fine, but I wish she'd have a talk with Gura about it so they can be more balanced about it in streams. Right now it looks like I'm watching some girl's heart get broken in slow motion.