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>> No.43552846

>>43552750
That time is no more. PekoMiko is dead, their song is bad, simple as
There must be a better pairing for both of them among in the list but alas, DECO want a dead pairing

>> No.43552848
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.43552859

>>43552730
>proof
https://shadowban.yuzurisa.com

>> No.43552864

>>43552670
>>They inclined I swear
The graph which you yourself referenced clearly shows incline wtf are you on about right now? Are you genuinely retarded?
>meanwhile subgrowth cratered
>music views growth cratered
Do you know what a shadowban is?

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>>43552781
The recent yab was pretty serious

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>>43552799

>> No.43552923
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43552923

Dont know why anyone would play overwatch or valorant as a streamer. Pure numbers poison.

>> No.43552932

Reminder that Nijitrannies shadowbanned Shark'd because they are jealous cunts, just like their Niji organs.

>> No.43552934
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43552934

>>43552865
KNEEL!

>> No.43552935

>>43552781
Fauna had the biggest yab of all. She had a good stream

>> No.43552963
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43552963

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgj7q1EFgwI
>kek

>> No.43552973

>>43552932
See
>>43552916
No shadowban.

>> No.43552979

>>43552683
>Why do you care
I'm just replying to anons who replied to me with obviously retarded posts anon. Chill.
Just don't reply if you want to keep living on fantasy, i certainly wouldn't mind

>> No.43552995
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>>43552520
Delusional faggot
These streams had the same CCV and duration so you can't deflect with muh recline bullshit.

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The only numbers that matter aren't majorly reclining

>> No.43553011

>>43552963
>Under 10k views
Hard pass

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>>43552923
Especially when MC is right there

>> No.43553040

>>43552963
Qrd I'm not spending 25 minutes watching TWO guys up their own asses

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>>43552754
After everything she did I don't think a countdown is enough
Unless it's a countdown for her to cum

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>39,796: Okayu (Hololive)
>36,124: Miko (Hololive)
>33,235: Leos (Nijisanji)
>30,555: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,563: Kanata (Hololive)
>18,750: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>18,391: Okayu (Hololive)
>18,308: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,373: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,964: Nene (Hololive)
>16,501: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,525: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,314: Enna (Nijisanji)
>14,141: Botan (Hololive)
>13,146: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,688: Korone (Hololive)
>11,337: Oliver (Nijisanji)
>11,261: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,011: Choco (Hololive)

>> No.43553056

Ok you guys really need to tone this shit down. A few Holo got shadowbanned doesn’t mean everyone and everything shadowban them
If we were to use Nijinigger logic then they have more event the break 200k compare to last year. Their profit inclined compare to last year based on the report we used when we compare 2 company profits

>> No.43553057

>>43552916
>says youtube
>uses google
nahone

>> No.43553074

>>43552973
Try searching it on Youtube, like 99% of people actually do it.

>> No.43553080

>>43552923
Is this Nijisanji graph where the viewers realised in firt 20 minutes, that she's not a holo?

>> No.43553099

>>43552859
Is this all you got? Even this website itself states this method isn't fullproof and twitter can have hidden deboosts which can't be detected by them.

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>>43553046
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy
16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal
17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream
18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi
19) Ina (Hololive) - 63,181 - 3D showcase
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,942 - Minecraft
21) Okayu (Hololive) - 39,796 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Ina, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
38x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
19x: Pekora
4x: Marine
3x: Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Ina, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Okayu, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

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>>43552963
Top comment

>> No.43553120

>>43553056
>then they have more event the break 200k compare to last year
Engish

>> No.43553121

>>43553043
Fucking whore

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43553149

>>43553121
begone LGTV person

>> No.43553155

>>43552995
You forgot that the vast majority of views come from the VOD so yes that is an obvious sign of recline. It means people who are subbed to Towa are no longer interested in watching her live VODs.

>> No.43553156

>>43552963
>depressed doxxfaggot

>> No.43553160

>>43553080
Nah, because she's got normal graphs otherwise, its just shitty content choice
>>43553021

>> No.43553175

>>43552995
MIX was much better and had people rewatching it. MIX2 sucked in comparison.

>> No.43553206

>>43553043
God imagine her cumming live on stream

>> No.43553217

>>43553056
eigo jouzu nijitroon

>> No.43553235

>>43552995
>>43553155
I remember you nigga were lamenting that Pekora birthday doesn’t reach 1M. Well it did, did you nig forgot that VOD view rise slower now due to verification?

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>>43553099
>its shadow banned despite no tools or method can detect them, okay
>what do you mean how do I know?
There are other ways to cope with slow subgrowth and you chose the most retarded option anon

>> No.43553252

>>43553149
?

>> No.43553261

>>43553155
>Conveniently ignores how VODs and videos got separated on channels in 2022

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43553300

>>43553206
haha imagine if she did that

>> No.43553305

JWU, what's with this talk about shadowbans?

>> No.43553344

Is the shadowban dude a schizo? He keeps trying and trying.

>> No.43553358

>>43552923
Last time for Cr Cup Overwatch Hinano Putechi Towa and Narraka got a deal to do a watchalong of the Overwatch shorts on Blizzards youtube channel. Taking part in the Blizzard sponsored CR Cup is worth their while.

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>>43552916
>>43552973
Are you pretending to be retarded? It's shadowbanned on YT, did you think you were being super clever by googling ti? I mean you had to have tried YT first so why are you even invested in pretending it's not shadowbanned. You were just a shitposter all along?

>> No.43553419

>>43553107
that first reply is gone
maybe shadowbanned?

>> No.43553445

>>43552279
she usually cover the evening slot EU when solo, pretty soothing, unironically shes among the best segway into Ina/Fauna if there aren't jp on

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>>43552963
I feel like I'll be fooled by clicking on this, so I will not

>> No.43553459

Ok, not one, but two retards.

>> No.43553486

>>43553419
Downvoted comments are moved down

>> No.43553501

>>43553459
hey! you forgot to include yourself

>> No.43553504

>>43553459
one is a schizo, the other one is giving real examples

>> No.43553529

>>43553107
some of the comments there are legit made by sock accounts

>> No.43553535
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43553535

>>43553046
Okayu has a beautiful soul and erotic personality so she is easy to lewd

>> No.43553537

>>43553419
>compiling doxx and paywalling them
>keeping those disgusting schizo edits under the guise of history preservation
hope he will never come back.

>> No.43553538

>>43553504
Both are idiots that don't know what's an algorithm change on YouTube.

>> No.43553541

>>43553400
>Pedo shit
>Shadowbanned
Good, maybe Gura should have actually listened to her managers and censored the naked Gura scene so it wouldn't have gone this way, but Gura is a stubborn retard with no business sense so here we are. The pedo daki was another misstep btw, don't be surprised if this blows up in her face and results in her losing a lot of popularity.
In the end the biggest failure of HoloEN management will be because they weren't able to tard wrangle Gura enough to get rid of all her stupid ideas.

>> No.43553570

>>43553206
I can only think of one holo who'd dare to cum live

>> No.43553591
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>>43552963
Accidental gatekeeping is good. If some normalfag sees this and decides NOT to watch hololive, that's a win in my book

>> No.43553606

>>43553250
>trying this hard
it's ok nijinigger
not everyone has to be able to read numbers

>> No.43553608

>>43553541
(YOU)

>> No.43553609

>>43553206
it would be both adorable and an instant load blow

>> No.43553629

>>43553541
sister don't you have some voicepack to buy so your liver have money for rent at the end of the month?

>> No.43553633
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43553633

>>43553400
Do you perhaps live in a non-free country anon?
your government probably doesn't want you to search for images of prepubescent children with little to no clothing

>> No.43553640

>43553541
Proving my assertion.
>>43552932

>> No.43553647

man, if i only okayu does what Noel's roommate do...
why does such a sex voice have to only do basic ASMR?
makes me sad...

>> No.43553650

>>43552963
Why is asmonjew just spamming vtubershit?

>> No.43553682

>>43553650
It's the latest trend and he probably believes that he can incline from it

>> No.43553688

>>43553647
don't start being disingenuous it's sister behaviour.
Noels roommate is a completely different kettle of fish.

>> No.43553734

>>43553633
>Isreal
Interesting, what country are you from? I bet western countries ban the video while everyone else has no problem

>> No.43553748

>>43553734
>everyone else
big tech

>> No.43553752

>>43553682
Vtubing is the latest trend? Did I time warp back to 2020?

>> No.43553767

>>43553688
eh? i know her roommate is different.
i WANT okayu to DO it. bodycam or not.

>> No.43553771

>>43553606
>X must be shadow banned because I think the number should be higher than it is
There you go, at least now whoever reads this thread can know you're a retard who unironically argues with circular logic

>> No.43553804

>>43553570
Shien?
>b-but he's not holo
don't care, that's the joke

>> No.43553810

>>43553767
It wouldn't make the same kind of money so I don't know why you're saying it.
I want okayu roommate to myself.

>> No.43553833

is any Holo planning on playing Atomic Hearts?

>> No.43553875

>>43553734
works in EU

>> No.43553881

>>43553734
Not all western countries. Sweden had a supreme court case that ruled loli shit to be art or something like that. Could have been another Scandinavian country, I'm not sure.

>> No.43553884

>>43553833
Botan as always, gura and ame maybe

>> No.43553889

>>43553833
Botan might play it, but i don't really know, it seems to be really political

>> No.43553900

>>43553400
Anon, try reading the message I was responding to. It literally say "try finding it in a Google search."

>> No.43553931

>>43553889
forced political at least, the content doesn't seem to be the reason

>> No.43553937

I want okayu to bring me to orgasm by only planting little kisses on my dick

>> No.43553946

>>43553810
>it wouldn't make the same kind of money.
i know. still would sell eitger way.
>i want okayu to myself
fuck off, you can go to luna or korone.
leave my wife alone

>> No.43553974

>>43553734
which "western" country are you from friend? as mine is fine

>> No.43553985

>>43553881
>Sweden had a supreme court case that ruled loli shit to be art
Holy shit you are right, it is apparently called "the manga case"

>> No.43554018

>>43553804
Nene

>> No.43554023

>>43553833
Gura mentioned it but i don't think she knew there was a political controversy surrounding it.

>> No.43554036

Is there a way I can see number of subscribers and/or viewers broken down by countries? For a given channel I mean.

>> No.43554045

>>43553974
NTA but I'm in the US and can't find it in YouTube search

>> No.43554075

Lmao you are all arguing using cherry-picked result
>Muh subgrowth
Gura and Kobo and Marine exist
>Muh music view
Kobo again and recent Mori and Kiara music ain’t doing too bad either. I bet the Laplus cover are going to grow as well
>Muh ccv
Posting the graph and ignore entirely the fact that Hololive channel is no longer a debuff and they have had 2 record breaking company event stream on there
You guys pick the worst performer of every number and say “they”(everyone) is reclining

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>>43553752
Hey don't ask me man

>> No.43554096

>>43553633
>little Jimmy, 13 years old are looking for shark videos because he loves them
>mistyped, searched for shark'd instead and clicked the first result
>grows up to become a pedophile and sexually assault a 10 year old within 10 years
Many such cases

>> No.43554102

>>43554045
i think it's shadowbanned in the whole american continent

>> No.43554108

>>43553931
I was actually thinking of the content since it seems wolfenstein levels of overt, did any holo play that btw?

>> No.43554119

>>43483347
Nah that's me and I haven't been here in at least a week. Happy to see you still seething though.

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>>43553985

>> No.43554138
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Why is there a resident schizo trying to gaslight people into believing the cull is somehow fake?

>> No.43554147

>>43554045
>US
Found your issue m8
Try VPN to MX

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>>43554045
>somewhere in europa

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>>43553734
Italy, unsigned&incognito, even turned safesearch on for good measure.

>> No.43554174

>>43554075
Gura'a sub growth has actually been pretty ass for the last few months. Bad example. Kobo's sub growth also slowed down significantly.

>> No.43554175

>>43553752
beleb it or not, VTubing on twitch is still kinda niche, with only some vshitshow girls being somewhat known.
this little controversy is unironically increasing their mindshare.

>> No.43554216

>>43553771
>x is not shadowbanned because i said so
Yeah try harder nijisis

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>>43554096
>A 13 year old watches a girl of similar looking age to his and somehow grows to be a pedo
Damn are you dumb

>> No.43554247

>>43554160
Yuropoor here and yep, can't see it either

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>>43553946
I think that Holo's should be able to do stuff similar on sites where the rules allow it at least.
Dunno how bad that would be for sponsors etc in reality but it's probably a major fear.
>fuck off, you can go to luna or korone.
leave my wife alone
We'll just have to see. I still need to do alot of JP reps. But I seriously like her anon, different than I do any other holo and not in anyway thats normal for an idolfag

>> No.43554273

I was told to ask here for proof that music views on YT has been fucked with due to kpop

>> No.43554287

>>43554138
Because it is, there's no strong argument for it.
The last confirmed algo change was the 2020 CCV fix.
Early 2021 had a cull, but it's gone and fixed by now.

>> No.43554305

>>43554160
west europe here, I'm getting the exact same results

>> No.43554317

>>43554160
Yuro here and it's the same, and i just write "sharkd" like >>43553633
i don't even get vtuber stuff at all

>> No.43554328

>>43554273
>proof
no one actually knows the ins and outs of how youtube works
>YT has been fucked with due to kpop
they wouldn't fuck with it just because of music.

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Interesting, I need to type "gawr gura shark'd" to see it unshadowbanned.
Other options not available

>> No.43554335

>>43554160
[Spoiler]Germany?[/Spoiler]

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43554349

>>43553535
everybody memory hole'd the times where okayu used to be embarrassed about lewd stuff
she sure changed after getting a bf

>> No.43554357

>>43554317
*if

>> No.43554363

>>43553889
they can stream games whichever they want to, unless those games are banned from everywhere like that taiwanese horror game

>> No.43554368

>>43554023
She didn't, EN management probably blanket bans anything even remotely controversial, but the most damning thing is: Gura rarely follows up on games she says she wants to play. Unless she does it the LITERAL NEXT DAY (not happening, she's in japan) it's been memory holed.

Fuck, she memory holed that chumbies told her the 1/7 figma was out and didn't shill it. This entire preorder run for the figma will literally go unshilled by her or holopro twitter. Baffling.

>> No.43554407

>>43554349
Yeah me

>> No.43554406

>>43554135
They showed it on fucking national TV?

>> No.43554429

>>43554349
I also listen to the voices in my head but they are more pleasant

>> No.43554434

>>43553833
I fucking hope not
Any game with a forced companion that won't shut the fuck up deserves the rope

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43554436

>>43554287
The last algo change was a few months ago when the vods started doing half the views they normally did >>43552995
Also the ccvid has not been fixed why are you lying?
The 2020 algo change has also never been fixed and affected holos the most.
In conclusion you are full of shit.

>> No.43554442

>>43554349
yeah, Korone

>> No.43554444

>>43554161(me)
on youtube i need more precise search to get the result

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>>43554444
attaching pic is difficult

>> No.43554494

>>43554273
The youtube algo for music almost certainly changed and the common belief is that it was cause of kpopfags who would over inflate views.
But ultimately there is no hard proof

>> No.43554501

>>43554442
yes, were you calling anon?

>> No.43554567

>>43554273
Music vids are normal for the most part
Some vtuber related MVs are breaking records even

>> No.43554576

>>43553155
>It means people who are subbed to Towa are no longer interested in watching her live VODs.
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever considering the fact that ccv was the same. It means that towa was pushed out of the algo or legitimate views werent counted anymore. Why would people randomly stop being interested when literally nothing indicates a recline, quite the contrary. You are massively coping right now and sound like a baby with no argument. Just a bad faith actor.

>> No.43554578

>>43554494
>>43554328
>>43554567
Thanks, I'll go call that guy a faggot now

>> No.43554590
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43554590

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>2/21 DAILY TALLY
15,314: Enna (Nijisanji)
11,261: Fauna (Hololive)
8,676: Mysta (Nijisanji)
7,395: Kiara (Hololive)
6,042: Enna (Nijisanji)
6,011: IRyS (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft
17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke
18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream
19) Ina (Hololive) - 63,181 - 3D Showcase
20) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,816 - Hitman
21) Enna (Nijisanji) - 15,314 - Birthday Concert

>PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mori
3x: Baelz, Fauna
2x: Amelia, IRyS, Gura, Ina
1x: Mumei, Kronii, Enna

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
25p: Mori
23p: Fauna
21p: Baelz
17p: IRyS, Ina, Amelia
14p: Mumei
10p: Gura
7p: Kronii, Vox
5p: Kiara, Enna
4p: Vesper, Luca
3p: Uki, Magni, Finana
2p: Mysta
1p: Millie

>> No.43554601
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43554601

>>43552932
Reminder they caused the end of Erolive

>> No.43554608

>>43554406
I found it in newspaper just now and i can't even share one of the images on this blue board

>> No.43554613

>>43554494
>definitely changed
Source? Don't bother answering if you're concluding it because music videos you like hasn't been doing so well

>> No.43554616

>>43553235
>only 1M
ppfff
It would be at 2M already if not for the shadowban

>> No.43554622

>>43554590
NIJIGODS, I KNEEL.

>> No.43554634
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>>43554590
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
33x: Hololive
17x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori
4x: Baelz, Ina
3x: Mysta, IRyS, Fauna
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Gura
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
46p: Mumei
43p: Ina
40p: Fauna
35p: Amelia
33p: IRyS
30p: Mori
29p: Baelz
26p: Vox
24p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
15p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kiara
10p: Pomu, Gura
9p: Millie, Enna
8p: Ike, Finana
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira
4p: Uki, Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>> No.43554644

>>43554273
in december was released that update if i remember

>> No.43554650

>>43554576
You're coping hard just because Towa has reclined.

>> No.43554656

>>43554590
the dream is dead sadge

>> No.43554663
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>>43554590
>1x: Nijisanji

>> No.43554683

>>43554590
>1x: Nijisanji
DORYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.43554695

>>43554590
hey, you are not the original cripple anon.

>> No.43554712

>>43554174
It doesn’t fucking automatically mean shadowban retard. Have you consider that
>Gura haven’t put out something for months now
>Kobo sub growth simply normalized after an explosive headstart
Might be the reason? Not denying shadowban but blaming it for every single underperform number is dumb. Even the graph you guys use as proof for shadowban is for ccv, not these numbers

>> No.43554742 [SPOILER] 
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43554742

>>43554695
if the information is accurate who cares

>> No.43554766

>>43554590
I think it's safe to say the real monthly tally starts now since everyone was on break before. Expect NijiEN to go on a streak now. Look at how NijiEN almost did a podium sweep when they actually try. Meanwhile Kiara with a buffed JP offcollab couldn't even podium

>> No.43554780

Sisters, not like this... >>43554610

>> No.43554786

>>43554742
He brings more fun and seeth to this thread though

>> No.43554795
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>>43553538
You are an idiot if you think hololive is not shadowbanned. If it was an algo change everyone would be affected by it. Yet niji and vspo didnt see this drop in vod views or ccv.
Are you trying to convince me that all holos naturally reclined by the exact same amount at the exact same time? And you are trying to pretend you are the smart one here?

>> No.43554811

>>43554695
I'm 100% positive the original cripple tally anon stopped after his precious Eagles lost. Just look at when the tally started listing Holostars as Holostars instead of Hololive

>> No.43554826

>>43554273
There are some obvious signs of music recline in the mid-to-low end related to whatever Susan did in Sept/Oct 2022, but they seem more related to whatever "antiviral" thing they did that started shoving literal 2VoDs into your recommended feed. If you were following the Holo Weekly Top 50 covers chart, you noticed that #50 went from starting at ~60k to plummeting down to ~30k.

As other anons have pointed out though, the top end is more or less untouched, with several broken records in a similar timeframe (I'm Your Treasure Box, Kobo Overdose, The Last Take Stellar Stellar).

>> No.43554876
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>>43554795
What the fuck are you talking about. They mirror each other. VSPO has just gotten Met, and ID has outfit buff for the month plus kobo as an outlier.

>> No.43554878
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>> No.43554890

>more Fauna threads
Jesas

>> No.43554893
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43554893

Youtube definitely doesn't like when vtuber get big number, probably especially when they project the opposite values of the company but it's not an excuse for bad performance.
ENfags just seethe too much. Us saplings are the exception, that's why we're tolerated.

>> No.43554916

>>43554890
You keep posting about it, I'm going to make some of my own for shits and giggles.

>> No.43554956

>>43554644
>>43554826
if someone it's bothered to check archives iirc >we discussed itt along the kpop stans on a twitter crusade against susan because the views weren't coming in at the expected rate, was days before milord song release (don't ask me which one) because even his cover was being hardwalled by the new verifying process.

>> No.43554974

>>43554436
>image
That was a fix anon, numbers before then counted low quality plays which undermines advertisers trust. It's not been fixed, but is a fix in on itself.

>> No.43554978

>>43554890
Just go and treat them as lewd Fauna image
dump thread

>> No.43555028

>>43553752
otk is chummy with vshojo and orbiters for a good while

>> No.43555036

>>43554576
Similar CCV but lower vod views indicates ccv botting activities anon

>> No.43555051
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>>43553046

>> No.43555066

>>43554436
Schizophrenic.

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>>43554766

>> No.43555097

>>43554650
I accept your concession.

>> No.43555154

>>43554766
My guy if not for a fucking buff birthday karaoke, Fauna would've won regardless with a goddamn euro truck simulator stream

>> No.43555161

>>43555074
she's probably reading supas

>> No.43555167

>>43555074
No one cares about Nina or Millie, they're not relevant even to the cripple tally. Now show Luxiem and Enna.

>> No.43555201

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rX7hi0ymjU

Jesus fuck Ame please stop jumping slots like this, it's even worse than usual

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>>43555074
Stop making me defend fucking Millie. But's able to reach numbers that Tenma cant

>> No.43555252

>>43555154
That's a gigabuff game with lots of clip potential. People always spam Euro truck clips on this board despite how boring the game is.

>> No.43555255

>>43554766
Is there a reason why you mentioned Kiara's stream and not Fauna's?

>> No.43555266

god dang it, can't go less than 9 min in time attack

>> No.43555267

>>43555201
It's her usual late stream though

>> No.43555272

>>43555201
uh high chance of mumei guerrilla overlap in that slot

>> No.43555303
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WDSMBT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKK33BoEwJI

>> No.43555314

>>43554826
There are no strong evidence that the music vid recline had anything to do with what Susan then was doing.
A more reasonable conclusion is that viewers that are disciplined on doing their reps like the gooks went over to Isegye and stellive and do reps for them instead. The dates where they are booming and Holo music vids are cratering matches, as well as reports from Korean anon that Holo discussions on local Korean forums are down badly.
This is also at the time where Ina was going into her medical break and Kronii is fucking around with vesper. Reclining WON SC to Korean pandering hold like Bae also checks out

>> No.43555322

>>43555201
I find it funny how Ame made "AMT" and it was 6pm EST but she rarely ever used it to the point that Fauna's fans now call 6pm EST "FST"

>> No.43555338

>>43554036
Become the channel owner.

>> No.43555351
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>>43555074
Tenma line

>> No.43555355

>>43554135
Here's the thing, the only reason the guy in the manga-case ended up in court was due to his ex pressing charges for sexual assault of their kid. They couldn't get him on the sa so they tried him for the loli stuff they found when arresting him. I haven't heard of anyone getting caught with any manga stuff since then, the cops and the law in general have plenty of normal pedos to round up and are focusing on that, caught like 30 something in december I think. With that said, if they were to catch you with loli-shit they'll try to get you for it. Sweden isn't a haven just because of one supreme court case.

>> No.43555360

>>43555272
>mumei guerrilla
she's still MIA

>> No.43555378

>>43555360
she wrote in fauna chat yesterday no? i beleb in the resurrection

>> No.43555414
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43555414

Yea, it's shadow banned in US

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>>43555360
Fauna's chat, then she retweeted some stuff. Poeple are trying to say it was a manager but that seems retarded

>> No.43555462

>>43554876
Wtf are you showing me? Stop deflecting. You say holo isnt shadowbanned when we see clear ccvid and shadowbans on the graphs and in vod views.
You are trying to provide this picture as proof that they somehow arent shadowbanned? Those two arent mutually exclusive. They would simply be inclining twice as hard at those points if it wasnt for the shadowban.
Again, all holos suddenly getting worse vod views completely out of nowhere does not make any sense to be called a natural recline.

>> No.43555463

>>43555314
Also I might get flamed for this but Hololive rarely release real good music anymore. It’s always fall down to the few same Holo to release some real fucking banger
Wouldn’t surprised if people are less interested in Hololive music as a whole

>> No.43555511

>>43554795
It's the Koreans anon, they stopped doing their reps for Holo.
Meanwhile Isegye are releasing MVs on youtube with millions of views in a few days and they and stellive dominates vtuber content on twitch by a fucking mile.

>> No.43555532

>>43555272
Mumei only do guerrilas to funnel into Kronii.

>> No.43555550

>>43555351
Shame that Tenma was only recently added to number sites - I wwould love to see her ccv over time - she really picks good games lately, and her ccv is slowly rising

>> No.43555572

>>43554974
>low quality plays
That's an excuse to shadowban normal viewers.
Reminder that youtube thinks people who spam emoji in chat are bots. So all these have potentially been shadowbanned.
That's why we see such a hard drop for holos like Lamy here 60%. It's the chatters that spam her emoji, which is part of the culture.

>> No.43555580

>>43555414
And all related territories, since I'm not US and it's also shadowbanned.

>> No.43555584

>>43555314
lol anon meanwhile the kpop gooks were complaining about the opposite, that their reps weren't getting as many views anymore. Face it, gook scs were only relevant to Kiara and bae, the two absolute runts of en. They never were that many

>> No.43555585

>>43555201
>Part 3 in the title
>Part 4 in thumbnail
Wow Ame is about as good with numbers as this thread.

>> No.43555617

>>43555423
It's not a manager but I won't put too much stock into it cause Mumei talks all the time about watching streams off stream

>> No.43555626

>>43555036
Meds.

>> No.43555629

>>43555414
I tried to add "gawr gura" then it shows on the first result.>>43554329

>> No.43555633

>>43554974
i guess it's also a "fix" that i don't count as a viewer in streams unless i log out

>> No.43555646

>>43555532
Her last few streams were all guerilla and none of them funneled into Kronii

>> No.43555650

>>43555351
If you ever needed evidence that they're barred from playing Holocure, it's the fact that Maria is playing Vampire fucking Survivors.

>> No.43555699

>>43555572
Lamy reclined because she went menhera.

>> No.43555713

>>43555066
>*proof of cull being posted*
>"muh schizophrenic"
Good job, retard.

>> No.43555727

>>43555646
Mandatory weekly streams to not get the boot like Sana and now there's the IPO as well.

>> No.43555732

>>43554590
>Fauna slipped
what the fuck

>> No.43555737

>>43555580
Doesn't Canada have anti-loli laws?

>> No.43555754

I stil don't get it how did Fulgur and NijiEN got out Scot free with the Discord leak. Are Holofans that weak? I mean Nijiniggers harrased Aloe till she was forced to graduate but Fulgur is still going strong with his career.

>> No.43555769

>>43555629
That's just like searching for shadow banned anti-chink channels

>> No.43555777

>>43555699
>Lamy reclined because she went menhera.
I hear this over and over, but never with any details - what happened with Lamy?

>> No.43555780
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>>43555414
Brazil

>> No.43555830

>>43555780
Could you try removing Gura?

>> No.43555831

>>43555572
Explain Pekora, retard.

>> No.43555836

>>43555777
is just bullshit.
her numbers are fine, her game choice last year was more kino and she's overall busier.

>> No.43555844

>>43555727
If weekly streams were mandatory Kronii would have streamed something recently.
The "Mumei only streams to funnel into Kronii" poster was always a schizo who ignored that Kronii often streams late so she gets funnels, and Mumei has guerilla'd without Kronii streaming plenty of times.

>> No.43555853

>>43555650
Honestly, king should just do the big dick move and play holocure. I wonder how big numbers he would get and how salty the chat would be.

>> No.43555878

>>43555777
Low self-esteem everytime a new gen debuted

>> No.43555895

>>43555550
>recently

>> No.43555911

>>43555462
>Again, all holos suddenly getting worse vod views completely out of nowhere does not make any sense to be called a natural recline.
This.
I would understand if individual holos reclined and started getting worse numbers, but all 35 of them? At the same time? Nah something is fishy at youtube.

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>>43555830

>> No.43555922

>>43555853
He'll play it when Sankisei will be added, and he'll choose Pekora for 1st game

>> No.43555925
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I didn't get it.
Is this Okayu posting a joke?
She did cum on stream twice and did blowjob ASMR already.
She is willing to do more but Youtube no la deja.

>> No.43555935

>>43555462
>Again, all holos suddenly getting worse vod views completely out of nowhere
Anon, recline and people losing interest for the next shiny thing is the norm.
You'd have to be constantly doing well just to keep holding your audience on stagnation, even moreso of you're aiming for incline.
On that time period, there's definitely more the 'out of nowhere' happening to holos, popular holos start to go into long breaks or streams less frequently, holoEN with the tempus shenanigans. Strong alternatives popping out on the KR scene, etc.
It has a non-zero chance that the more passionate fans are leaving and maybe going for other options leaving the Holo audience to have less regulars that does their reps on music videos in general.
I don't know anon, if you ask me that's miles more reasonable explanation than random shadowbans that unnecessarily targets hololive out of nowhere despite YT having decent relations with cover over the years.

>> No.43555939

>>43555853
toya waiting for holox to roll all the loli and do a full cunny playthrough

>> No.43555941

>>43555777
a bit, after her dragon quest meltdown over spoilers

>> No.43555970

>>43555922
nah he's waiting for Coco

>> No.43555979

>>43555921
Thanks

>> No.43555985

>>43555777
Mindbroken by backseating to the point that her Dragon Quest streams stopped being live and became pre-recorded.

>> No.43555984

>>43555314
>>43555511
>it's the koreans!!!!
lmao nijitrannies found a new boogeyman since all the other deflections and bad faith arguments keep failing

>> No.43555988

>>43555878
Didn’t Pekora have to like, addressing the issue with people saying they will left Lamy and Nene for HoloX? It was weird to me cause that might be the first and only time Pekora go out of her way to reassure her kouhai

>> No.43555993

>>43555925
No, she hasn't? The ASMR she did, I guess, but it wasn't labeled as such. She's never orgasmed live though lol

>> No.43556001

>>43555939
I can see that happening. His viewers would also probably be a lot more open to it than other Niji viewers because they love the cunny too.

>> No.43556011
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>>43554893
Sounds like a retarded decision, it would incline their streaming scene.
Lots of fleshfucks would trade Twitch bubble for Youtube exposition.

>> No.43556022

>>43555699
That recline is from 2020 retardchama...
>>43555831
What's there to explain?

>> No.43556036

>>43555844
This seems like some major copium. There was an image with the majority of Mumei streams being funneled on Kronii, anon. You seem like some hooman who doesn't want to realize she is using you like a tool to deflect Kronii's recline, or even worse, a Kroniie.

>> No.43556049

>>43555895
I mey have put it in a wrong way - she always were choosing good games, but lately I think she really picks classics - VtM, Diablo 2, KOTOR etc.

>> No.43556070

>>43556011
Yeah I always thought that when hololive blew up YT should have pushed it.
But maybe it's for the best. EN vtubing was barely gatekept.

>> No.43556072

>>43555777
She's betraying much of her gachikoi audience by avoiding to read their SCs
some rrat says she was having stalker issues and decided to dial down on the SC farming.

>> No.43556079

>>43555414
>>43555780
>>43555921
wtf so the fuckers just shadowbanned the original but left out the reupload of it on another channel?

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>>43555979
Also in japan
have to type in "gura shark'd" to make it even show up

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>>43553541

>> No.43556143
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>>43555993
Being a virgin or rapist is not an excuse to not know how girls orgasm.
Go watch some Noel.
> but it wasn't labeled as such
Autistic retard...

>> No.43556153

>>43555633
You're mixing things up anon.
The ccvid issue was the exact reversed. People tried watching with their account but was counted in ccv while the moment they logged out it was counted in.
Both are normal now

>> No.43556158

>>43556117
no one asked but it shows up in bongland

>> No.43556214

>>43555713 (me)
>cull
*fix

>> No.43556230
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>>43556143
relax there's an okayu live tomorrow

>> No.43556255

>>43555984
Anon pls your idea of YT specifically targeting Hololive seems too farfetched.

>> No.43556276

>>43556143
Idiot he's asking for a fucking link

>> No.43556303
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>>43552806
Thumbnail remind me of lily-an

>> No.43556325

Important message from Laplus. This is your fault you faggots.

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1628130320716566528

>> No.43556327

It's fucking over for me. I can't keep up with whatever /#/ is sperging out about on the daily. Every time I open the thread it's some other bullshit.

>> No.43556336

>>43556036
I don't even watch Mumei, but I can read graphs
>The majority
The guy literally cherry picked 4 streams. I could make a retarded argument that Fauna deliberately funnels into Bae by your logic.
Go ahead a look at the rest of her streams and point out how they funnel into Kronii

>> No.43556351

>>43556011
it sounds retarded because it never happened anon.
even the ccvid confirmed cull started with the fps crowd. Regardless if they have live2d/png/facecam or nothing at all

>> No.43556354

>>43555925
>>43555993
Is Okayu membership worth it for a eop. I hear a lot of this membership but is it really worth the money?

>> No.43556367

>>43556325
very cute, we love La+ here

>> No.43556394

>>43556336
>. I could make a retarded argument that Fauna deliberately funnels into Bae by your logic.
You really can't when she's spent the entire month outlasting her streams

>> No.43556395

What happened to Holo music compared to past recent Holo musics are kinda trash. Even the hyped up Holo*27 did not release anything worthwhile.

>> No.43556397

>>43556325
lapu-channnnn

>> No.43556399

>>43556354
A lot of it is just zatsu. There's some ASMR but that's also kind of zatsu. I wouldn't pay for it if I couldn't at least kind of understand.

>> No.43556414

>>43556354
it's 5 squid anon, if you have to think about it maybe you shouldn't

>> No.43556425

>>43556327
See you tomorrow retard

>> No.43556446

>VOD cope timeloop
lmao

>> No.43556447
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43556447

>>43556276
He should have said so
>>43556354
If it's too much money for you then better not

>> No.43556448

bros where's pikamee

>> No.43556455

>>43556325
Very based.

>> No.43556469

>>43556395
Unironically saturation, way too many “normal” songs nowadays with no real breakthrough

>> No.43556479

>>43556395
Lip sync was ok, mosh run had a cute MV
That's about it. Deco27 has always been a hack even before the holo gig.

>> No.43556480

>>43556394
That would be the logical conclusion but I can cherry pick a few streams and make a nice image to point to the opposite conclusion instead

>> No.43556493

>>43556336
>cherry picked 4 streams
NTA but 4 streams isn't a lot since she barely streams at all?

>> No.43556497

>>43556354
You can just try a month out, but unless her voice is enough for you don't get, because a lot of it are just chats.

>> No.43556500

>>43556480
Just do it anyway

>> No.43556538

>>43555935
>Anon, recline and people losing interest for the next shiny thing is the norm.
And hololive has proven that they are here to stay and arent your next shiny thing many times already. Vtubing is inclining. So it makes no sense for hololive who is the most popular vtubing agency, suddenly getting only half the usual views on their vods for everybody involved.
I dont know how you can argue in good faith and say natural recline is a more reasonable explanation than shadowban in such case. No one loses half their viewership overnight. Especially not 35 people. This looks more like a switch being switched.
We even have track record of social media trannies hating them and shadowbaning them constantly like on twitter for instance with hololive not having a topic for the longest time until elon bought twitter and suddenly hololive has a topic.

>> No.43556590

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0oun5Q6PHM
Tenma seeing the biggest buff from Atomic Hearts i take it.

>> No.43556609
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>>43556354
>Is Okayu membership worth it for a eop
>>43556399
>I wouldn't pay for it if I couldn't at least kind of understand.

The 100k+ views on her ecchi focused membership ASMR? All me. Listening everyday for one and half year.

>> No.43556621

>>43556493
The person making that argument did it in January when Mumei had 18 streams, most of them guerilla, and Kronii had 12. And his argument was that Mumei only made guerilla streams to funnel into Kronii to pump her numbers.

>> No.43556634

>>43556590
I got her recommended to me and watched it for a bit before I realized Nina was also streaming it.

>> No.43556644

>>43556011
It doesn't matter. My guess is china has some pull with youtube and dont want hololive to be influential for obvious reasons.

>> No.43556671

>>43556500
Sure, remind me in like 8 hours when I get home from work.

>> No.43556678

>>43556621
Sounds like some retarded schizo shit.

>> No.43556686

>>43556538
Twitter was literally run by trannies.
YouTube wished they have that many trannies employed to manually moderate YT vids. It's literally all bots now over on YouTube where even reputable channels gets fucked over with random bullshit daily

>> No.43556694

>>43556117
yet nijinigger itt will lie to your face that hololive isnt shadowbaned

>> No.43556702

>>43556395
Nobody knows about this
https://music.holodex.net/org/Hololive

>> No.43556734

>>43556538
Anon you are basing this whole retarded argument on ONE SINGLE TOWA STREAM
The rest of Hololive VOD look normal, some even get better VOD view than a year ago. You can babbling about “NO THEY SHOULD HAVE DOUBLING THIS AMOUNT THAT LOOK TOTALLY REASONABLE BECAUSE” but that will only make you sound like ENfag insisting “Gura have 300k ccv actually if you remove the cull”

>> No.43556735

>>43556153
NTA but im still not counted as a viewer so you're full of shit.

>> No.43556765

>>43556734
I think your can safely just ignore him now anon. He's clearly not arguing in good faith.

>> No.43556785

>>43556255
Hmmm I wonder where that idea came from
Maybe from the fact that whenever youtube pulls some bullshit it's always magically holos who get culled?

>> No.43556786

>>43556590
is the game like fallout but robot sex?

>> No.43556815

>>43555414
Shows up just fine for me
why are chumbuds such crybabies
even if it were shadowbanned it'd be like crying about having only 1 billion dollars instead of 1 billion and 1 dollars

>> No.43556820 [DELETED] 

I want a whole playlist of Mumei reading bedtime stories for an hour.

>> No.43556829

>>43556538
>suddenly getting only half the usual views on their vods for everybody involved
Except they're not. Aqua's first orisong are doing its best in years, suisei's phony and maribako are doing well. Even Ochame Kinou is back at 100k+ views again per week after months of sub 80k+ views a week.
The overall music recline was not sudden at all, it was granular over periods of months particularly july-december of 2022.
Source: https://www.hololive-songs.com/
And yes, all that definitely indicates genuine recline rather than some sort of targeted opression

>> No.43556844

>>43556820
Wrong thread?

>> No.43556846

>>43556255
No it's the koreans!!!!

>> No.43556861
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>>43555921
is that first video a fucking leech?

>> No.43556872

>>43556820
I want a whole playlist of Mumei doing negative affirmation asmr. She talked about it some time ago but I think she forgot.

>> No.43556886

>>43556786
More like Pray+Bioshock with Robosex - I thiink devs even comissioned one lwed pick of robots from the game before official release

>> No.43556889
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*FINAL FEBAERARY TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>2/21 DAILY TALLY
10,011: Choco (Hololive)

>STREAMS FOR FEBAERARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club - Day 02
2) AZKi (Hololive) - 11,847 - GeoGuessr - Day 16
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko - Day 01
4) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Lengends (w/ Subaru) - Day 05
5) Choco (Hololive) - 10,011 - Offcollab (w/ Iroha) - Day 21
6) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,930 - Unarchived Karaoke - Day 09
7) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast - Day 06
8) Baelz (Hololive) - 8,728 - Valentine's Roleplay - Day 14
9) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,109 - Offcollab (w/ IRyS) - Day 08
10) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,695 - Delivering Hope - Day 17
11) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,636 - Holocure - Day 11
12) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,393 - Zatsudan - Day 19
13) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,341 - Holocure - Day 13
14) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,937 - Minecraft (w/ Sora) - Day 03
15) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,502 - Zatsudan - Day 15
16) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,370 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 04
17) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,332 - Zatsudan - Day 05
18) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,303 - Learning Harry Potter Spells - Day 07
19) Baelz (Hololive) - 3,796 - English Duolingo - Day 16
20) Baelz (Hololive) - 3,691 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 10
21) Baelz (Hololive) - 2,882 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 20
22) Baelz (Hololive) - 2,772 - Kureiji Arcade - Day 18

>ABOVE 10K
5

>BETWEEN 5K AND 10K
8

>BELOW 5K
9

>CRIPPLE GOLDS FOR FEBAERARY 2023
01 -- 02 -- 05 -- 06
TOTAL: 4

>BAE'S CURRENT MEDIAN FOR THE MONTH
5,341

>> No.43556911

>>43556538
NTA - I agree that the recline isn't organic, but I disagree that it's a shadowban beyond specific examples like Shark'd. I believe it's more the "antiviral" change.

Before, if you watched a Holo cover of X, you'd get recommended covers of Y and Z from other Holos, so you'd naturally move from Holo to Holo. Now, you'll instead get recommended 3 more covers of X by anyone from other random indies, to the old utaite version that made it big, to the original, to a 2VoD. Or it starts shoving Hololive clip channels instead of more music. So if you were looking for a playlist, you're getting fed multiple dead ends instead.

>> No.43556913

>>43556255
It was targeting k-pop fans and idol + vtuber fans are similar enough that they got caught in the crossfire.

>> No.43556921

>>43556702
>embedded plays
Shit like this is unironically killing numbers for holos

>> No.43556924

>>43556686
>It's literally all bots now over on YouTube where even reputable channels gets fucked over with random bullshit daily
This is not true. Youtube always will have human moderators who curate trends and terminate accounts.

>> No.43556927

I want a whole playlist of Mumei reading bed time stories for an hour. They might not be great for CCV and archive views, but they would be great as member content.

>> No.43556943

>>43556829
If that's the case it might just be a quality issue with the newer songs as some anons have been saying.

>> No.43556949

>>43556325
This is an actual vtuber.

>> No.43556950

>>43556886
based, can't wait to see if the holo girls will play it

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43556976

>>43556921
some anon said the devs said it counts views

>> No.43557006

>>43556786
It's looks like wolvenstein but with robot segs

>> No.43557059

>>43556976
It doesn't, only twitch counts embedded views. We've had this issue before with that one site pre holodex that enables multi stream embeds

>> No.43557135

>>43556886
Is the controversy because of the robosex? I may have mistaken this for the Russian game.

>> No.43557154

I want a whole playlist of Enna moaning from cucking for an hour. They might not be great for CCV and archive views, but they would be great as member content.

>> No.43557175

>>43556621
He is right, though? I did a quick check and if you exclude event streams, such as collabs and members, her streams schedules were most with the intention of funneling Kronii. No rrat or schizo.
You have the whole day to do a stream, this is too much convenient too stream in the exact time for a funnel. I'll check if it was only 4 indeed, because this is sounding like a copium deflection.

>> No.43557206

>>43557059
>it doesn't count views
>*talks about other page as an example
uh, anon?

>> No.43557211

>>43557175
Take your meds

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEe0pzo9rOA
powerful nip fanbase

>> No.43557221

Bae actually has better vod views than irys

>> No.43557225

My guess is that the search term "Gura" and "shark'd" are so correlated that Youtube interprets the absense of "Gura" as a sign that's not what you are looking for. Just like you won't find Baby Shark anywhere in the results if you just search for "Shark", even though its obviously the most popular video with shark in its title.

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>>43556734
>Anon you are basing this whole retarded argument on ONE SINGLE TOWA STREAM
I just showed one Towa stream as example.
You can look up all the archives to see that it's not just one stream. All vods are culled.
Marine's latest sister marine skit is doing worse somehow than all the previous ones despite having record live viewership. This is not natural. All vods have been doing almost half as good as they used to.

>> No.43557274

>>43557135
Nah, it's the Russian game, but as Ukraininas are too far away from the US and in contrast to trannies they are really dying, contoversy will die much qquicker

>> No.43557296

>>43557206
The thing about holodex is, when it asks if it can share your information, most people click no. That information is used to add your view to youtube. if you have your browser set to never share your info, your view doesn't count from embedded videos. A lot of times it may also count your view but wont add you to the ccv of live streams.

>> No.43557323

>>43557059
https://hololive.jetri.co/
It's fucking dead now

>>43557206
It's still using the same html5 embed anon. Unless holodex devs have a method to impersonate official yt clients, they're not getting those views.

>> No.43557340

>>43557135
the controversy from what i read /here/ was the game is funded by the russian government and that the game will brainwash you into being pro-russian

>> No.43557391

>>43557154
enna moaning from watching someone else have sex with her man?

>> No.43557397

>>43556829
Except they are. Im talking about stream archives and recent music vids. Obviously music vids that have already tens of milions of views will do proportionally better. That doesnt mean their numbers are good. What is 100K per week for ochame kinou? Thats nothing.

>> No.43557435

>>43557274
I don't even think most Ukrainians care. They got bigger things to worry about and even if the game sells like crazy and Russia gets a cut it'll be like...1/2 the cost of 1 Iranian drone or something.

>> No.43557449

>>43557175
Anon, that's heavily on account of her being available only in the evenings on account of having to deal with Animol and school, alongside Kronii streaming late PST. It's not some purposeful action, it's just a result of how their schedules were set up.

>> No.43557480

>>43556911
What is the "antiviral" change than not a type of shadowban? This kills the numbers. Virality and getting recommended is everything on youtube.

>> No.43557484

>>43557221
The number of baes vods under 50k is concerning. No other en ever has vods under 50k unless they are sc readings

>> No.43557489

>>43557254
Super popular streams like that always have great vod view growth post stream anon.
Mikkorone for example had 1.5M for both stream on Korone and Miko a few weeks when it aired.
Now they have 3.4M and 3M vod views respectively.

>> No.43557503

>>43555988
>only time Pekora go out of her way to reassure her kouhai
Publicly maybe. Kanata talked about how Pekora encouraged her and give her advice when she debuted. The thing with Pekora is that she never advertises any nice thing she does off stream, Marine talking about getting emotional support from her during her first long break, Noel saying she give her money when she lost her wallet, and even Miko and her story about how Pekora encourage her when was losing confidence before her return. We only know this things because other people talk about it, even if the chat brings out the subject she usually ignores it. Is funny though, one time Mio was talking about how polite and nice Pekora is and the chat joked saying that Mio was doing "business inference" by affecting Pekora's public image.

>> No.43557561

>>43557006
>>43556786
>>43556886
Gotta admit, the robot sex art has been significantly worse than i expecting.
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=atomic_heart
Hoping the Japanese do better with it.

>> No.43557567

>>43557484
I don't think any en or jp ever gets under 50k. Baes channel must be bugged

>> No.43557600

>>43557489
Anon, Sister marine skit has always had close to 1M a day after the stream. This one sits at 800K after two months despite having record viewership. Stop this.

>> No.43557608

>>43557561
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/105585674

>> No.43557617

>>43556325
Is there anything special about February 22 aside from the pun?

>> No.43557638

>>43557567
>Baes channel must be bugged
No she just carries on Sana's spirit and in turn her numbers

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is this why the catalog is shit? the discordtroons are having a melty?

>> No.43557682

>>43557641
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.43557692

>>43557600
The logical conclusion is that Marine has reclined because it's the same old content as before (not new and viewers are less likely to view stuff when it's not new) and also Marine's constant breaks have hurt her in the algorithm

>> No.43557693

>>43557567
this febearary coupled with laptop/idol reps? in nipland has been a disaster for her day to day operations.

>> No.43557702

>>43557480
It'd be a shadowban if it was targeted, but when I'm trying to watch shit like cooking, or tech, or science/history, or general gaming but keep driving into walls of "who the fuck is this?" it sounds more like Susan was trying to do something about the whole "watch one gun video and YouTube assumes you're a far right racial supremacist" issue they were having, but then fucked everything over in the process.

>> No.43557708

HoloEN is dying a slow death. HoloFes is the only thing they have left now after that it will be slow and painful death.
COVER took too much time to debut EN 3

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>>43557641
I got it too, from the Ironmouse thing he did. Took them long enough.

>> No.43557742

>>43557641
based, fuck that phasefag

>> No.43557740

>>43557641
qrd?

>> No.43557744

>>43557340
I mean if hololive can brainwash me into wanting a hag wife, who knows what a video game could do

>> No.43557792

>>43557641
>Theirs a fucking Choco bait thread
They really decided to just throw a dart on which Holo's get a bait thread today

>> No.43557799

>>43557641
>>43557736
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.43557801

>>43557340
but I'm already pro russian

>> No.43557820

>>43557708
>COVER took too much time to debut EN 3
I agree with this portion. Rest of your post is schizoshit.

>> No.43557835

> start watching Mio in 2020
> Mio inclined like crazy
> start watching Tenma a couple of weeks ago
> Tenma inclining
b-bros...

>> No.43557849

>>43557708
Yes, HoloEN is surely going to die, at <current_date> + 2 weeks, any day now

>> No.43557877

>>43557641
S

>> No.43557881

>>43557835
Please watch Bae.

>> No.43557887

>>43557692
And there it is. If it reclined and people lost interest it would not get record viewership nijinigger-kun...

>> No.43557922

>>43557641
you made me have hope that their account got actually banned

>> No.43557924

>>43557835
hags incline with age, (You) have no influence on that

>> No.43557926

>>43557835
so what you are saying is that Phashoah is coming.

>> No.43557930

>>43557702
i dont see niji or vspo numbers being down though
if it's not targeted why only holo is affected? hm?

>> No.43557936

>>43557835
Hags incline and stream more hour so they don't have to think about aging biological clock ticking, it's that simple.

>> No.43557956

>>43557835
>made a greenpost
>is gay

>> No.43557958

>>43557708
Do people even care about EN 3 at this point?
Like my hype for EN 3 is long gone.

>> No.43557967

>>43557835
Please watch Fauna.

>> No.43557989

>>43557641
Already deleted the tweet and got unlocked sadly.

>> No.43558005

>>43557967
Fauna is not hag

>> No.43558023

>>43557967
Already do

>> No.43558042

>>43557835
Please watch Vox

>> No.43558053

>>43557930
I mean, VPSO's provably going up, but the numbers I've seen so far say Niji's still reclining apart from their megaevent peaks. I'm not plugged into that side of the algo though so I can't check it myself.

>> No.43558059

>>43557641
It's like they learned three new words (lolicon, pedo and parasocial) in past few days and are ramping up. Shit's insane.

>> No.43558061

>>43557887
You're comparing two completely different metrics anon.
People who find the first 2 interesting from watching it live or vod, will tune in to the third installment on stream realtime, adding ccv and maintaining a vod view
People who didn't would skip the third one altogether not giving them any ccv or view

>> No.43558062

>>43557835
watching streamers unironically helps but don't get carried away with your influence

>> No.43558066

>>43557835
Ignore >>43557967 see>>43557881 Bae needs to be save

>> No.43558070

>>43557989
what was the tweet anyway?
I don't follow subhuman twitter accounts, i'm also astounded at the amount views and likes this retard gets

>> No.43558089

>>43557989
Welp, atleast reporting their shit gets looked at. Does twatter have a strike rule?

>> No.43558092

>>43557641
lmao get fucked

>> No.43558097

>>43557692
>same old content as before (not new and viewers are less likely to view stuff when it's not new) and also Marine's constant breaks have hurt her in the algorithm
>"wHaT iS a SkIt?"
and lol no people love that shit and tune in for more especialy when it's a staple and with new guests. You just exposed yourself for not even watching marine which begs the question:
Why are you even here and more importantly why are yoy arguing with me about somethign you dont even watch or know anything about?

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>>43557958
I would if it's a mixed gen for shits and giggles here

>> No.43558174

>>43558089
yeah, read the report, it says if he gets reported more times he will be suspended

>> No.43558175

>>43557989
what was it?
>>43558059
asmonjew spent hours talking about it or some shit, that might be it as well

>> No.43558195

Liverpoolsissies...

>> No.43558197

>>43558111
niji has relase 2 mix wave and they both flop, a mix holo gen would be dead in the water

>> No.43558206

>>43557958
Of course not. That's why people ask for it and talk about it here several times a day. That's why Holoreddit went to shit with Tempoop announcement. Because no one cares.

>> No.43558221

>>43558059
I mean I don't think it's controversial to say that all three of those things are bad and if you fit any of those labels you're a bad person

>> No.43558232

This isn’t meant to attack or anything, but can someone explain to me why Kronii’s taken like 2 weeks off of streaming for something that was /weeks/ away? Her surgery was supposed to be this week or something, then got delayed to later next week? But it was absolutely nowhere near the time she took off. And the girl’s probably taken more time off than just about everyone not named Gura and Ina so I dunno

>> No.43558253

>>43558175
I had never even heard of him before yesterday or something.

>> No.43558267

>>43558061
That is just stupid theory with no proof. which isnt really convining. So im gonna stick to the algo change and shadowban of vods. Especially with seeing a trend in lower vods for everyone in holo. I would understand if it's just that vod but again everyone being affected makes your argument look retarded.

>> No.43558269

>>43557225
In that case, "gura animation" should bring it up as well, but it doesn't.

>> No.43558284

>>43558197
i know, just wanted a giggle from the reactions

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>>43558221
I don't think it's wrong to love the girls in Hololive and I think you're a faggot for not liking cute girls

>> No.43558312

>>43558221
ogey But you and other shitcunts don't give a shit about that. Your high horse is dead.

>> No.43558325

>>43558232
She realized that she could take as many days off as she wanted

>> No.43558333

So what's next for Hololive?
3D streams are done infact there are so many of them
Gaming streams are just everywhere
Singing and dancing is nothing new either.
We need something fresh so what will it be?

>> No.43558349

>>43558286
based

>> No.43558371

>hololive getting more popular then ever
>more deals and sponsorships
>more recognition with merch and ads everywhere
>some streams getting record ccv
nijinigger:
>vods are down because people are losing interest

>> No.43558377

>>43558333
Holofes, new gens, new studio coming soon

>> No.43558385

>>43558333
Are you very very concerned, anon?

>> No.43558393

>>43558232
ehh she can spam ASMR and they'll come crawling right back anyway

>> No.43558452

>>43558333
Artists and bands just release songs and play concerts. What's next for them.

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43558500

>>43557641
BASED BASED BASED. And I know that SEAmonkey lurks this thread. kys faggot, stop bringing more cancerous normies into vtubing.

>> No.43558523

>>43557641
Thank fuck. Fuck those containment breakers.

>> No.43558543

Is Fauna streaming today? I'm turning into a sapling

>> No.43558571

>>43558206
NTA but Holo reddit and rest of the fanbase have unrealistic expectations for the new gen. I think They will be met with disappointment because EN 3 isn't going to be extraordinary like people seem to believe.
They wasted their time when they took too much time to release Council which turned out to be mediocre same thing will happen.

>> No.43558587

>>43558543
No. She doesn't stream on tuesdays.

>> No.43558635

>>43558195
Good riddance lmao

>> No.43558639

>>43558333
Themed projects
>Holo school
5-6 HoloEN members larps/streams as a teacher for various subject in a normal school day. Each frames does 1 hour of legit educational content and then raid each other for a total length of 6 hours of content between 7:00 JST to 13:00 JST

>Holo magic tourney
5 person collab (one of which is the host) where they do umineko-style red/blue truths game with audience participation via SC for blue truths

>> No.43558646

>>43558333
That's why they investing in Holoearth

>> No.43558675

>>43558371
But people are loosing interest that's why Ina's 3D showcase underperformed. A year ago we would have seen somewhere around 80-100k

>> No.43558683

>>43558571
You are free to think that all you like. People still care very much. That one faggot cares enough to tell that he doesn't care. That's how little he cares.

>> No.43558758

>>43558675
>strawman argument
what does people losing interest in en has to do with marine?

>> No.43558761

>>43558195
They are having a bit of a meltdown.

>> No.43558776

>>43558571
People exagerrate the recruitment ability but underexaggerate how important it is for the girls to have other cute girls to play and interact with.
If my oshi loves the girls, I will love the girls.
Until they yab.

>> No.43558845

>>43558267
That's literally how videos on a series works in YouTube and is not even exclusive to weeb/vtuber content.
First of the series is always the one with most views and then subsequently the second and third etc

>> No.43558863

>>43558675
Again,I would find it less suspicious if it was one or two individual holomen that somehow reclined but all 35 of them at the same time as if someone pulled a switch is virtually impossible. You cannot in good faith argue that hololive is reclining. Everything points to youtube shadowbaning their streams.

>> No.43558933

>>43558758
EOP watches holoJP too anon
They might not catch the stream but they'd miss the vod if they're no longer interested with HoloEN
Nothing ever exists in a vacuum anon. That's why you keep ending up on ridiculous situation such as targeted shadowbans as a conclusion

>> No.43558945

I'm being a doomer but I think HoloEN will recline to irrelevance and EN 3 will be the final nail in the coffin, simply because EN does not have anything going on for them after Holoexpo

>> No.43558951

>>43558761
grim

>> No.43558972

>>43558845
That is not true for skit streams at all. You are talking about part 1, part 2 in a series of let's plays. Streams with a reocurring theme are buff.

>> No.43559009

>>43558863
>but all 35 of them at the same time
You keep saying this but you know this is verifiably false right
Particularly holos like Azky, Lamy, Towa, Koyori, Gozaru, and Kanata

>> No.43559033

>>43558945
What is HoloENConnect?

>> No.43559034

>>43558933
Anon anon anon no they dont anymore
at least not as much as they used too. This has been a thing since coco's graduation and then council's debut.
All eop viewership is down for JP's
The only one that still has some is hachama and she is in the gutter.

>> No.43559086

>>43559009
All of them are down in vod views anon. The ones who you think are good would simply be twice as good before December.

>> No.43559095

As someone who has been numberfagging music since 2009 with kpop, music views used to follow a pretty similar pattern. Unless the video went viral somehow, first day would get Y views, second day would get roughly Y/2 views and viewership would slowly taper off the week to end the first week at around or slightly above Yx2 views. This was a mechanism of fanbase first day then the algo takes over the rest of the week as less and less of the fanbase do daily reps. Last year sometime, youtube fucked with their algo, breaking this cycle. Now it is common for videos to get Y/4 or even less in day 2 and it is inconsistent and doesn't just happen to holo. It even happened to Salami with her Hanaji cover but didn't with her SOS cover.

>> No.43559128

>>43558863
The 'switch' is EOP no longer watching Holo vods. It's that simple.
JOP watches the realtime just as fine. While the more casual EOP who could only watch then via vods due to timezones are experiencing great depopulation. Heck, they don't even watch EN speaking holos anymore

>> No.43559130

>>43559033
Paid event these are only for existing fans they do not attract tourist

>> No.43559136
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>>43559034
shut up faggot

>> No.43559193

>>43558945
>I'm being a doomer
No you are not. You are being retarded schizo with no connection to reality..

>> No.43559220

>>43559034
>they don't anymore
That's the point. There's you cause for reclining vod views.
No need to invent undetectable shadowbans or selective oppression out of thin air

>> No.43559238

>>43559128
majority of EOPs stopped watching JPs in 2021
the vod cull is recent
it can't be eops

>> No.43559242

>all these arguments that Hololive has less views because 'muh shadowbanned'
>but no actual fucking data to back it up
Fuckimg retard. Might as well just say 'just trust me bro'.

>> No.43559274

>>43559242
funguschama...

>> No.43559287
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Here's a number. I will soon hide all threads except /#/ and Watamelon

>> No.43559293

>>43559220
>>43559238

>> No.43559297

>>43558863
I mean streaming in general is reclining now that people go outside

>> No.43559301

>>43559193
Then you tell me what is the next big for them which has the potential to increase their views

>> No.43559327

>>43559301
And what would you say were the big events that increased their views in the past?

>> No.43559341

>>43559130
EN3 will attract new new people, Connect will be an event, and then I'm sure stuff like 3D lives and outfits will happen. Unless management once again gives us a whole year of nothing for the girls. If that happens you're free to make fun of me. I just don't think they're dumb enough to do that again, especially since EN has finally gotten the ball rolling again.

>> No.43559344

>>43559242
>but no actual fucking data to back it up
>*plenty of data posted in this and previous threads*
What did anon mean by this?

>> No.43559348

>>43559238
That's simply not true. Super buff streams like sister marine and towa 3D will almost always attract EOP even in 2022. 2023 though, that's a different question

>> No.43559361

>>43559238
It's hard for americans specifically to watch both JP and EN without sleeping weird and living neet lifestyle They show up for events and weekends though.
And if they are specifically called out in chat, a lot of people respond.

>> No.43559373

>>43559095
>Last year sometime
Late spring.
Wish i saved the tweet, but they admitted ti changing how repeat views are counted and immediately after anons noticed the recommendation algo change too.
That's when everyone started getting random <100 views videos recommended.

>> No.43559401

>>43559327
They were new and fresh and had less competition

>> No.43559407

I didn't know Salami covered Hanaji, those moans were pretty nice

>> No.43559427

>>43559344
>data shows holo reclining
Meanwhile any Holo vods and streams are getting recommended just fine even on fresh account.

>> No.43559454

>>43559348
>>43559361
someone post the graph of eops in holo JP streams over time
i didnt save it but it shows how they reclined massively

>> No.43559511

>>43559344
>data
>post completely unrelated numbers
>therefore Susan hates hololive
Unironicly retarded

>> No.43559516

>>43559454
If its measured by chatting in english, how accurate is it really?
I used to type a lot more nonsense in English when I was a newfag

>> No.43559570

>>43559348
>>43559361
>>43559516
Fucking do your reps newfaggots.
It's been discussed like a year ago already how EOps left.

>> No.43559592

>>43559454
>regular streams
Circular logic never ends well anon. You'll just keep digging yourself on an endless cycle of confirmation bias

>> No.43559619

>>43559570
Im here all the time retard. I don't buy it.
I've seen numbers showing CCV being higher.
Never seen a decline.

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>>43559511
>post completely unrelated numbers

>> No.43559670

>>43559344
>plenty of data
>plenty
I think you might need to look up the actual meaning of that word in the dictionary first, retard. Cherrypicked examples are not 'data'.

>> No.43559671

>>43559570
>Just trust me bro
>It's been discussed okay
>Don't bother me about it
At least, now people know how retarded the average /#/ holofags are

>> No.43559702

>>43559619
sure newfag.it's been discussed when anon complained about marine not apndering to eops anymore and anons explained with graphs how eops left. do your reps faggot

>> No.43559727

You can probably argue EN has reclined (they haven't been as popular as they were in 2020 but their about the same as they were in 2022) but saying all of Hololive has reclined JP included is rather odd considering record high a CCVs for JP since the start of the year.

I feel like the VOD views just got converted to Live Watchers for JP.

>> No.43559738

>>43559702
seethe

>> No.43559784

>>43559671
>holofags
oh ok so we've been arguing with delusional nijiniggers who came here after luxiem probably
fucking pointless..

>> No.43559803

>people still responding to the falseflagger
You literally only need to find how infrequent the term 'shadowban' appears on the archive to see what he's really up to

>> No.43559827

>>43558675
Didn't Ina actually have the second lowest numbers for her formal outfit at the end of 2021? Or was she ahead of Ame? Ina might not have as much tourist potential as people think.

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>>43559727
>saying all of Hololive has reclined JP included is rather odd
Nijiniggers just make shit up without posting numbers.

>> No.43559835

>>43559670
Maybe if you weren't such a delusional nijinigger and could asses data objectively without seething you wouldn't look so retarded right now.

>> No.43559846

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyQLRhwl018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyQLRhwl018

>> No.43559870

>>43558863
Why the fuck would Youtube do that to the one streaming niche where they are beating twitch.tv? In that case its much more likely that youtube initially went out of their way to shill vtubers to everyone, giving them much more than their fair share of exposure because they wanted to grow their own live streaming market. The recline just as well be explained as youtube dialing that back a little bit.

>> No.43559890

>>43559738
I accept your concession.

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my cute wife

>> No.43559914

>>43559890
catchphrase anon that's never won an argument kek

>> No.43559913

>>43559784
>look I'm retarded and I hate Nijisanji
>I'm totally not a nijinigger
>amirite fellow holofriend

>> No.43559918

>>43559373
Ah yes I remember that. I don't think they even realized the massive flow on effects that changing how repeat views are counted had on the algo.

>> No.43559928

>>43559727
Idk it feels like HoloEN has reclined relative to early 2022 into the summer. Hard to accurately gauge because Council was still pretty fresh then, but just look at like last Febaery compared to this year's. Not just the numbers but the hype just isn't really the same

>> No.43559932

Noctyx anniversary stream later. Another cripple gold, maybe even global gold if we get lucky. It's the start of the slaughter, 8-20 by the end of February, calling it now, Holokeks

>> No.43559950

>>43559835
>nijinigger
Ah, there it is. In the absence of actual argument, just start flinging your shit.
Pathetic.

>> No.43559967

>>43559834
It's a weird angle considering we're at the stage where HoloJP randomly shitting out 40k+ CCV streams is a regular occurrence.

>> No.43560003

>>43559870
It's literally a nijinigger pretending to be a retarded holofans so that he could post funny images on his discord.
Don't mind him any more than the absolute minimum anon

>> No.43560012

>>43559870
NTA but maybe there is a nijinigger working there and seething at holo like nijinggers /here/. Or maybe chinese have some pull.

>> No.43560011

>>43559827
Ina normally does her stuff at like 4-5 PM, her normal streaming spot, which hurts her maximum peak.

>> No.43560033

>>43559950
Dunno what else you're expecting from someone who's been arguing in bad faith this whole time.

>> No.43560043

>>43559967
Nijiniggers are too delusional that they believe their own lies

>> No.43560051

>>43559341
It's going to be an uphill battle. The casual EN audience won't wait around as long as the JPs, if things stagnate they'll move on to other forms of entertainment, and that's already what has at least partially happened.

>> No.43560084

>>43560003
What? Meds, now.

>> No.43560095

>>43560051
Yeah like EOPs watching less Gura and more Subaru

>> No.43560097

>>43559967
>events get good numbers
No fucking shit, sherlock. Are you trying to argue that all Holos streams should be considered events?

>> No.43560108

>>43559928
Bae's content this month has been rather bland and we're only JUST getting off the EN dry spell. Council has basically been holding down the fort while Myth was gone for like 2 to 3 months. Currently their on a slow recovery period.

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>>43559827
I'm too lazy to dredge all the numbers back up again, but her outfit reveal numbers have consistently been second lowest among Myth. The 3D live performed almost exactly on par with the CCV peak of that outfit.

>> No.43560132

>>43559932
I don't see it listed.

>> No.43560150

>>43560084
Go back to your discord sister

>> No.43560190

>>43559932
Nijisanji wins 8-20?

>> No.43560199

>>43560117
Why is the Live Chat number so different?

>> No.43560240

>>43560097
>Hogwarts Legacy, Holocure, and Minecraft are considered events now

>> No.43560249

>>43560199
she's mean so people talk less

>> No.43560261

>>43559950
>>43560033
Maybe if you werent arguing in bad faith you would look at youtube yourself and see that the vods are culled, but no, why would you be reasonable. Better shit up the thread.

>> No.43560289

>>43560240
>All popular, buff games
Keep going, retard. Keep digging deeper.

>> No.43560291

Bae privated and then unprivated her frame from yesterday for today, isn't that a bad thing for the algo since notifications won't roll out?

>> No.43560292

>>43560117
>Pre-2022
A lot has changed since then.

>> No.43560305

>NijiEN crashes and burns by their own hand
>HoloEN gets more investment so it must be crashing and burning too, it just must. It's not fair if it isn't.

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>>43560240
Pekora starting up MC is worth more than their events so I can understand why Nijiniggers would seethe.

>> No.43560328

>>43559950
>absence of actual argument
says the one with no argument and just deflections.

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