/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

yeah, council didn't do as well as they expected.

She had a bad start when she tried to be the nature mommy asmr gfe girl, same for bae with the forced 'chaotic' personality. Once again showing how Omega ruins everything that troon touches.

>>43469646
She is a numberfag. >We hate numberfags

I am actually filtered with her voice and uuuuu. It doesn't invoke lust

>>43469818
>Fauna
>gfe
I wish

>>43469646
I know this is a bait thread just like the WHY ISNT' KIARA MORE POPULAR THREADS but I'll answer before I go to sleep
>I mean, she's essentially tied for last with Bae.
She really isn't by any metric except for subs, and subs are heavily determined by your design and debut where her voice filtered a bunch of people. These days her CCV, Vod Views, and SC are all near the top of Council.

>>43469646
Numberfags ain't getting shit. This is as good as it get, stop begging

>>43469646
>mostly unintentionally
This doesn't seem very unintentional to me

vTuber popularity is just based on voice, design, and some vague notion of charisma. This should be obvious when looking at Mumei who is probably the most boring, mundane and normalfag person in all of EN. Straight after announcement people immediately decided she was "best girl" solely because of some "omg she kinda looks that genshin character!!" and her being overhyped never really stopped even after a shit debut and an immediate break after. Its literally just "idk she kinda cute" and people have no reason beyond that. Hell she didn't even have her psychopath gimmick at first and still was super popular.

Meanwhile Fauna is just the "vegan ASMR girl" in peoples eyes, whose high-pitched voice is very obviously fake. They don't know about her gaming, they don't care about her zatsudan skills or how much variety gaming she does.
If anything its a miracle she inclined in the first place, she used to be fucking B*e tier

>>43470013
>If anything its a miracle she inclined in the first place, she used to be fucking B*e tier
Worse actually, she used to be barely above Sana in every metric and Sana was dead last for everything. She only overtook Bae in subs in the middle of last year.

>>43470013
It wasn't really a miracle when she strategically placed herself around Ina's timeslot so people started watching her when Ina went on a break. It was effort and proper planning, let's not dismiss that.

luxiemsisters malding

>>43469646
>What am I missing? I've asked my most knowledgeable vtuber friend and he's stumped too. Why isn't Fauna more popular than she is?
gfe but isn't single lmao

>>43469646
>I legitimately don't understand why Fauna isn't the most popular Council member
she is

>>43470187
She was always in that timeslot from the start, there was no strategy involved, it's not like she moved into it coincidentally when Ina went on break

>>43470226
lol

>>43470013
Her voice+asmr niche made me think she was going to be a fanservice bot. I only ended up watching her because of her collab interactions.
First impressions are REALLY important

>>43469991
If this is GFE then Mori is GFE, she's given chat kisses before. It's just fanservice.
Fauna isn't GFE, you guys call a girl being nice to her audience GFE.
GFE is what Rushia did, what the kawaii girls do.

>>43469646
The answer is located on her left hand.

>>43470323
Nene is the only girl in kawaii that does gfe
Oceane was fired

>>43469646
First impressions are extremely important in Hololive. She needs to do something truly big or have some huge ((drama)) to change the holofan hivemind.

Your post would make sense on debut, just check out the recent Amongus collab where ALL 4 council girls had their POV. Fauna had the highest peak ccv despite not even getting impostor many times unlike kronii.

>>43470226
Mumei was in a slump for a while, but she is regaining her form and has been beating Fauna in all metrics but SC and streaming hours for a while. Kronii also has better ceiling than Fauna.
Now that I think about it, as stable as Fauna's popularity might be, her number ceiling is lower than pretty much the rest of CouncilRyS except maybe Bae and Sana. Why's that?

>>43470187
desu its always been wild to me that Ina got to have the best fucking timeslot all to herself. But I guess sleep- I mean, being friends with AO/Omegatroon will do that to you.

The funniest thing is that she knows exactly how valuable that timeslot is, and would rather get up at 7 AM in Japan than change it (after 2+ years of talking about how important sleep is for her).

I applaud Fauna for trying to steal it because fuck that gook

>>43470487
Fauna is the Ina of Council. Stable numbers but low ceiling compared to her genmates.

>>43470487
I guess people get filtered by her shitty voice
It doesn't help that she doesn't release music either

>>43470591
what's wrong with getting up at 7 am?

>>43470598
Ina has a high ceiling. She is #2 CCV in EN by all metrics.
Her average is inflated for sure since she NEVER plays debuff games and only jumps on fotm shit, but even factoring that in her ceiling is much higher than most other girls.
I'm starting to realize what a fucking numberwhore she is now though

>>43470662
She is the typical hikki fuck who sleeps till 1 pm normally. The type who would rather cancel collabs than wake up early (happened with Marine in the first year)

Now all of a sudden she can do it because her noombers are on the line. That's just funny

>>43469646
>pulled off a 10+ hour endurance stream, something that I can't remember any other EN member doing
I think this is a pretty dumb post overall but I just wanted to point out this part I thought was egregiously dumb

>>43469646
She isn't, she's only low at subs. The fact gura doesn't get 4 million viewers, 4 million people chatting, 4 million members, etc. should clue you on why that's not the be-all end-all of metrics.

>>43470766
>Ina has a high ceiling. She is #2 CCV in EN by all metrics.
For normal streams yes, but for huge event streams like outfit reveals, historically it's been Gura > Mori > Ame > Ina > Kiara I think
Mori and Ame used to have higher ceilings than Ina for normal strams too before their current slumps

>>43470187
>>43470591
Fauna used to stream before Ina, then moved to 2 hours after her usual time. They only overlap now because Ina started streaming 1-2 hours later
People are going to have to get over the idea that times "belong to" specific people anyway, because even one more gen is going to make avoiding overlap impossible

>>43470885
I really don't remember Ina ever being below Mori and Ame for big event stuff like outfits. Maybe in the first year or something.

I agree that Ame used to have a super high ceiling compared to her average though, I remember that

>>43470013
fauna is a better design than mumei, though.

>>43471179
>one more gen
that's never happening.

>>43470651
>shitty voice
Fauna has literally the best voice of any vtuber

>>43469646
Discount Ina with no talents. That's it

>>43469646
>Big mommy milkers that aren't outlandishly huge
Forgot that important detail OP.

>>43469683
Fpbp

op here
>>43470847
>egregiously dumb
>Calli has done 3 10+ hour streams
>Kiara has done 1
>Sana did 1 that one time she streamed between vacations
Ye got me, son. I'm egregiously dumb because I couldn't care less about the with a day job and I missed that one time Kiara did it over a year ago.

At any rate, she's the only one in her gen to do it, so the point isn't totally wrong.

Most of what I'm seeing here seems to agree that she had a shitty first impression.

>>43470428
I think that's what's got me so confused. She seems to be nearly the whole package, yet she's pretty near the bottom of all of EN. I guess she just grew into being a great all-rounder and just hasn't drawn new eyes in since she hasn't done anything massive (released a single, collab with a big time jp - not just Lui, etc) or had any drama.

>>43471770
She's skilled in asmr, pretty decent at gaming for a woman, and has killer zatsus. All Ina has over Fauna is her drawing. She's great at zatsus as well, but kinda sucks ass in games.

>>43471868
Pettan is life.

>>43469646
you're not subtle

>>43469683
FPBP

>>43469939
lol no, since Ina came back, she fallen below Mumei and (sometimes) Kronii.

>>43472377
?

>>43469646
No one watches or give a shit about holoEN in general anymore. Do your JP reps and get where the real waifus are. /vt/ is pathetic.

It’s cause she didn’t play enough Sporcle

>>43469646
if only she was cunny

>>43471368
Someone has to hit 1mil subs for Cover to even consider it. If you are mad about gen3, blame gen2.

>>43469646
I always listen to her stream to help me sleep

>>43472149
She had a bad first impression with me. It took a long time before I got over that, but she is great. She should have collabed with Noel while in JP. She missed a huge opportunity there.

tell me when she does blowjob ASMR like finana did. Yes i am a coomer

>>43477443
can't they just bot subs like they did with the shark?

>>43477443
Myth must have a huge amount of dead subs if they can't manage to get anyone from council over 1million. No EN3 debut has stalled the EN division hard.

>>43469646
E

>>43469646
How old is this bait
You didn't even update it you lazy bastard

>>43471331
Wrong. Mumei has one of the best designs in EN. She’s on the same tier as Ame and Ina, where the design is so good that it carries a mediocre performance.

>>43469646
Because your start is everything, the first months are the ones where you have to show yourself to the viewers and attract as many as you can. Kronii and Mumei for some reason did it kinda good, but both fucked it up with by going on breaks. Fauna case is that she attracted certain type of viewers who like comfy asmr and she had a horrible first half of a year, she literally was on break half of it. Sana was Sana. And Bae even if she underperforms, she fucking stream and doesn't go to stupid breaks because Mori told them to "take it easy".

Bae is the clear example of how they should have done the things, she even surprassed Fauna in subs at some point, but now that Fauna is finally in her tryhard streaming phase, she took her place back. If only the other two weren't my ADHD hort and any excuse to escape from holo hort, everything would have been al right. Sana was a lost cause since the start

>>43469646
I can think of some problems
>Very repetitive mannerisms
Unless she's on an unrelated tangent you can predict how she'll react during games, it's entertaining but doesn't have lasting power. Perfect clip material, but a full stream is a bit much.
>Keeps a safe distance.
This is better for her personally and has stopped any real yabs, but Fauna has never really been fully open about something. She's got some good takes, but I can't remember anything emotional or passionate that came from the heart, there's never been a moment where I've thought this is one of my people or I want to support her dreams. She's just nice to have along for the ride. She's does "comfy" much better than Ina because Ina has at least gotten to tears multiple times and chases art.
>Comically bad ASMR
Consistently broken tools, infrequent schedule when it is working, mic peaks and lots of points of comparison even within Hololive as better examples of ASMR. This would be OK if it wasn't marketed as her debut strength. ASMR should result in a shit ton of dead subs and archive watchers (see any indie company with an ASMR member and a non ASMR member), but she has barely more than the Holo-buff.
I think it stopped people from seeing where she shines because wasn't living up to the expectation she set out for her channel, they weren't focusing on her true strengths as a result. Also for the ASMR she does, you need to be degen to really embrace that kind of ASMR, even if you don't want to coombait you still need to fundamentally understand how to be intimate and please, Fauna just isn't tuned that way, or refuses to admit as such.

Her real strength is that she's the xbox gamer of the group. Big AAA games that you don't want to buy yourself since (unless you're a teenager) and are more commitment than what most girls are into, but are great to rift on. Only Botan and sometimes Korone fill that niche. If she ever gets a dark outfit, the black + green combo will forever cement her as the scene-kid Xbox rep to me. She's beginning to shake the ASMR impression now so I hope she can grow as more people realize she's a big nerd.

>>43477784
>Risu never made it a tradition to end NNN with blowjob ASMR
fucking ruined

>>43469818
She never failed at it

>>43469646
I liked her better when she was lemon leaf desu

>Her favourite streamer hates Colorado in Hitman
Who does she refer to?

>>43472149
Actually mori has done seven, two pokemon ones, two jump king ones, one in elden ring, one in bloodstained, and one when she hit a million subs, gura did one for dmc3, and bae (who is part of fauna's gen, so you're wrong there too) did one where she finished bayonetta three. I will now upgrade you from egregiously dumb to fucking retarded.

>>43479782
the canadian egg man, probably.

>>43479846
who?

>>43479951
northernlion

>>43480021
>baldchad
It's not fair hairbros

>>43469646
Because Eddy
There I said it, it’s what everyone in the thread was thinking but didn’t want to say, ban me if you faggot mods, as a long time fan of Lily I have the right to say whatever the fuck I want about this woman

>>43479156
sometimes she goes on science tangents which belays at least a genuine curiosity
they're few and far between though since string theory and muons don't come up much in conversation

>>43480021
I really don't get his appeal. He's the plain toast of streamers

>>43470312
>made me think she was going to be a fanservice bot.
well she kinda is, not that I'm complaining but I wish people would stop requesting ara ara so much

>>43469646
Her voice is why, that obviously fake high pitched voice is a huge turnoff

>>43469646
I LOVE HER.

>>43480616
his verbal iq is high and therefore fun to listen to

>>43469646
Because she plays the gf experience card while provably having something that everyone knows about but I can't mention without being banned.
Yes people care about hypocrisy

>>43469646
Sana was the most interesting member in council and she's gone.

>>43481522
If she's so interesting why hasn't she done anything interesting after graduation? I like Sana, but it's clear now she was forcing 90% of everything and could only stream what she did prior to graduation due to overlapping interest.

>>43470487

>Mumei was in a slump

When? Shes been pretty consistent, if anything that slump is right now

>>43481987
This, if anything her slump was in debut where she was too aspergersy to speak full sentences

>>43482060

the first 3 months post-debut seem fucking hell, they probably went from streaming to <300 people whenever they felt like to on a set schedule to 6k+, not sure how much they need to keep the kayfabe up, etc

>>43469646
She's a pseud and that's the bad kind of cringe

>>43482330
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>43473860
So...nothing has changed. Kronii was always capable of big numbers on stuff like Minecraft, but she rarely plays it and rarely streams so her numbers often suffer. Mumei bounces up and down between strong spells and weak spells.
Ina coming back didn't really change much

>>43469646
I'll list the reasons;

1. Vegans are annoying
2. Kayfabe isn't entertaining
3. Refuses to be GFE or coomerbait
4. fallenshadow yab
5. Model is overdesigned and just doesn't match other hololive model styles, looks like an indie

What she does have going for her though is she actually plays games and streams, but it's generally not enough to carry her above the other points.

I know some of you will be bitching about my points, but they all rub different people the wrong way, me personally I dislike vegans, I lived as a vegan for about 1.5 years when I lived with my older sister, it's brain rot, the amount of mental gymnastics you have to maintain in order to keep that dietary lifestyle is annoying, your body is screaming at you to stop being retarded but you convince yourself that you are morally benefitting the world over your peers by not engaging with the meat industry, the levels of up your own ass gets unhealthy and it's something that most vegans, even if they don't show it, do have
Vegans are all miserable people who feel better than you, it's what keeps them going

>>43482675
>Pseud: (noun) |Plural: pseuds|
>A pretentious person that pretends to know a lot about the Arts when infact knows very little or nothing.

>>43482729
>fallenshadow yab
qrd?

>>43482729
All of this is just you projecting though?

>>43482857
The vegan thing sure, but I have seen a lot of other anons complain about it as well so I added my own experience, I just don't like other vegans after living it, they all have serious character flaws
Everything else is mostly shit people complain about her or even the rare comment on youtube, a lot of people don't like her gimmick, she has a gimmick that doesn't appeal to men and the only gimmick that would appeal to men, the whole mommy shit, she has on multiple occasions shot down as weird

>>43483162
Can you answer >>43482788

>>43483282
Fallenshadow is menhara and thats about it, it wasnt any engagement between them. Who gives a shit, FS is going to fade into irrelevance now they've made their content tamer.

If you asked me to describe Fauna's personality I wouldn't know what to say. Sometimes she's a cute dorky smart girl, then sometimes she's a generic streamer who loves doing click bait and coomer bait and obnoxious meme jokes, then sometimes she's an emo doomer talking about how cruel the world is and we disappear into the void when we die. She's inconsistent in a way that makes it hard to be a big fan.

>>43470013
I believe that's her real voice.

>>43469646
I hate to say it but I actually think Fauna's PL/RM hurts her since it feels like she has no gachikoi, just mommyless saplings.
Also Mumei is in the top third of singers in HoloPro and is ironically unironically good at gachibaiting with her college girl energy on top of that. This is funny to say but she's like a zoomer Pomu, significantly less otaku but she shares some mannerisms, gimmicks and verbal tics. Whether that's intentional or not is up to the viewer.

People are on about Mumei getting model buffs but Kronii is easily the most blessed and as Council's Mori she forsook her early popularity and fell into some of the same traps but without a strong pillar like music and JRPG nerdisms to fall back on. Her content remains directionless but people still like the person and I can respect loyalty.

Bae and Sana got HoloAustralia and even Bae got Korean support like Kiara and Mumei. Sana had a unique presence and when she delivered it was good. If anything it's Bae who should be more popular and her content is slowly evolving. She's outgoing, she's multilingual, particularly in the language of the most potential collab partners and she lives in the timezone for it, she's a legit vtuber fan, and more than Kronii she delivers more on her voiceover content and is a better ACTOR than Kronii which isn't a high bar but she clears it. Perhaps she might be the biggest proof in the consequences of killing the gachis early? She doesn't have to fear unicorn backlash but damn how are guys supposed to win versus the actual winning son?

I actually don't like the mommy thing anyway. I do unironically like her voice.

Also find her less boring/annoying than Mumei and Kronii. Kronii's streams put me to sleep and Mumei's bird voice grates my ears something fierce.

The mommy thing is a filter and cringe. She also has a weird and young sounding voice and would've done much better with a loli model.

>>43469646
The biggest kneecapping that all of Councilrys received was having to follow up Myth in the first place. No generation in Hololive has had a tougher assignment.

>>43483521
Anon Shondo's a 4view now which for an indie is a very rare feat. And the last stream on her channel is a CIV stream where she played as Hitler and created the "good timeline" by being nice to everyone. She isn't going to be irrelevant nor is she "tamer" than she ever was.
Also the yab was a nothingburger and didn't effect either her or Fauna outside of /here/, anyone implying it hurt Fauna's viewership or momentum in the slightest is an idiot.

>>43481360
i dont watch him what do you mean

>>43469646
I personally think shes perfect. Theres that one thing thats holding her back though and its keeping me from going gosling.

I remember her saying even she doesn't like the mommy thing a little after she first debuted. She said she saw herself as more of the Older Sister type instead.

Problem is some fans took the whole "Mother nature" thing too serious but she does have a soft personality to match it so what can you do?

>>43484379
councilrys' job wasn't to be explosive talent. Their job was to be tardwranglers for the myth autists. Why do you think they're mostly normies with high social skills? The only one myth had was kiara and she was sent into exile in europe.

She plays her character well but she isn't unique enough (that also apply to some jp talents as well)

I want her to do members asmr again

>timeslot
>Voice filter
And
>Muh mommy asmr
People don't even watch streams or clips so they don't know much about Fauna

>>43469646
The same reason all Covercorp wageslaves don't do as good as they could be with all the money for marketing being pumped into them:

They don't let them play to their strengths.

Mumei doesn't play FPS games. Ina doesn't draw. Fauna does ASMR once a month. So on. They force them to waste their times with stupid shit like singing lessons and learning Japanese.

It's clear as day if you look through the vods - Fauna doing ASMR 400K views. Fauna playing Minecraft halfheartedly 60K views.

Cover's management is retard tier. I moved on to better corpos ages ago. You apes should do the same.

I am forever astounded why PL shit is brought up when it comes to numbers (see literally every twitch streamer). Genuinely sounds like bizarre cope from not even from not even clipwatchers who still think her entire schtick is being a mommy but numberfags who are terminally stuck /here/ that are forever butthurt that Council doesn't have 1 million subscribers like Myth because numbers.

People can sense the vegan on her. She reeks of avocado.

>>43469683
>>43471893
>>43472646
Nijifags are filth

>>43479156
ask me how I know you are a clipnigger

Fauna is pretty boring and her ASMR isn't that good. She doesn't get intimate enough. Gura's first ever asmr from 3/26/21 is better than anything Fauna has done and it was her first time.

>>43486726
ASMR doesnt fucking need to be about intimacy, goddamit. Stop watching coomerbait ASMR only for fucks sake.

>>43470355
>Nene is the only girl that does GFE in Kawaii
>he says that while Lua, Aletta and Peony are there
Lol. LMAO even.

>>43486869
99% of ASMR has nothing to do with it anymore, the only real stuff is unintentional ASMR which is what it was in the first place. Fauna is my most watched EN now yet I never watch her ASMR because it's just more of the annoying girl whisper into the mic crap that all the others are.

>>43479156
>scene-kid Xbox rep
What the fuck are you talking about? Is this some zoomer thing where you think xbox was an underdog brand in the 00s or something?

>>43480616
lol, if you think he's plain toast I wonder who you think the cream is.
He's pretty unique as far as twitch goes

>>43486869
Yes it does. And for having a KU-100 it doesn't sound good. I've heard people with 3Dio's that sound better

>>43483162
>she has a gimmick that doesn't appeal to men
What?

>>43489547
anon thinks that fauna's only gimmick besides mommy is that she's vegan

>>43484447
he goes on constant tangents and have funny metaphors for things

shes not pure, gimmick is for unicorn so it feels even faker

>>43486869
>Stop watching coomerbait ASMR only for fucks sake.
No.

>>43484719
>high social skills
Are we watching the same Council? Fauna knows the basics of having an adult conversation and Bae knows how to speak zoomer, but the other two are complete autists.

>>43489479
No it doesn't. Stop selecting ASMR's by the thumbnail you horny dog.

About Fauna's sound setup. I dunno but true, The 3dio was the same, so it might be whatever other equipment she has or the room where she does them itself having very poor acoustics.

>>43489769
Well whatever, but don't complain later that ASMR are about intimacy ok? Like the other.

>>43489589
That's so strange to me. She intentionally avoids talking about vegan shit because she doesn't want to be known as "one of those annoying vegans".
Only reason she talks about it at all is because her retarded chat insists on asking all the time in SCs.
>HAY FAUNA, FOOD QUESTION FOR YA
>FAUNA, WHAT KIND OF VEGAN FOOD DID YOU EAT TODAY?
>I HERD U WERE A VEGAN FAUNA, PLS RECOMEND FOOD
>WILL YOU LOVE ME IF IM ALSO VEGAN???

>>43484574
Yep, it's always the greys in her chat saying "MOMMY" and only rarely a member will say it. All these mommy posters are looking for is someone to satisfy their fetish.

no reason to watch when ina is back. Also she keeps playing out of date western console games that no one enjoys watching compared to actually playing them.

>>43490032
Those guys are just normies who saw the "funny maymay on twitter" and want to participate. Guys with an actual fetish are probably in the minority.

>>43490029
yeah I get the same impression, her streams don't revolve around veganism, even her food tier lists don't even stray much into it iirc
I also don't get the complaints that she's generic but then people also go off about her personality's schizo
it's almost like there's nothing to complain about other than extremely personal tastes

>>43469646

Beautiful model buuuut..

>Fake sounding voice
>Boring personality
>Boring games
>Doesn't release much music or do anything creative
>sub-only chat locks
>Only gimmick is ASMR
>Kissed Gura's ass too hard

I really wanted to like her.

>>43481522
Remember when Sana took her first hiatus and she came back during a stream and I swear she said "To all the people who told me not to take time off, fuck you ya cunts!" and then pretended to play it off as a joke?

I remember this vividly, but I can't recall what stream or timestamp that was. I am surprised she didn't get canceled or whatever, she never did anything like that again.

Isn't she the most watched Council member now unless Kronii plays minecraft?

Sub count is fake anyway who gives a shit about that

>>43489842
would it possibly have to do with her pc?

>>43490355
all wrong but
>>Kissed Gura's ass too hard
I don't see how this is bad unless she started milking it and they've only had one (1) collab

>>43471770
this is so comically off-base that it could only come from /vt/.

>>43490370
depends on the metric
kronii removed for being last

>>43489215
>scene kids
>xbox
>underdog
scene kid is what normies became when they wanted to lean into nerd culture, but didn't want to be seen as too nerdy. A scene kid who plays the most basic AAA games on xbox is picturesque for Fauna, who is a bit nerdy but tries to keep up appearances

>>43490524
3, technically. Though the Rust one was Gura actually stalking her and forcing herself on her when she meant to play Solo.

A couple of some kino games and some earlicking asmr and boom easy incline.

>>43469646
I'm pretty sure she actually is the most popular council member

She seems pretty popular, not that it matters. Only mentally handicapped esapees from /#/ care about dick waving stats.
At this point, Fauna is the sole member of Holo EN who I watch regularly and consistently. Also the only one I still have a membership to.

>>43486869
>It doesn't need to be about intimacy
Yeah, businesses don't need to be about making money either, but I can tell you which ones stay afloat. ASMR was a meme until people realized it simulated intimacy, not picking up on that is failing to adapt. Shouldn't asexual faggots like you be complaining about fanservice in anime on Reddit somewhere?

>>43469646
Let's be honest we all know why she's not more popular guys...
Please stop living in denial.

For Holos, their popularity is in part tied to their generation. That's why Gen 3 was so strong, all of them were super popular, except Flare. Council has always been a dud, dragged down by Kronii's lack of motivation, Mumei and Fauna's terrible OPSEC, Bae being a Homobeggar from the start, and Sana not existing/graduating.

>>43491809
I want to gosling but I can't

>>43469646
She’s too white, in a bad way. Mumei is too white in a good way. Fauna radiates “look but don’t touch” energy while Mumei radiates “attainable girl next door” energy. Simple as.

>>43491809
Yea, it's funny how retards here are pretending not to know the obvious

>>43481005
>that obviously fake high pitched voice
so fake she's consistently maintained it for a year and a half of 5+ hour streams with not a single slip up, not even in moments of shock, distress, high emotion, or surprise that would tease out some ones real voice. Never once had to go on a throat-hort break or needed to see a doctor about destroying her vocal cords by talking in an unnatural tone for hours on end.

>>43484437

isnt shondo also pivoting away from the ASMR stuff now, outright deleting older videos too?

>>43471429
You might be deaf

>>43492428
Yeah, if she's stepping away from that it won't be long before she pulls a nyanners. Regret is the first step on the path to shaming

what if fauna is happy where shes at?

>>43481005
Her voice in like the first 10 streams and her current one is very different.

Her current one is, or atleast very close to her real one while the debut one was exaggerated cute

>>43470591
Based. Gooks and their gook agenda need to be stopped. I demand TOTAL gook death.

Fauna is just a nice girl. She's not sexy rat cunny or big tit clock or mentally ill owl girl. But at least she's not lazy australian girl.

>>43471868
>tits not big enough
>tits not lactating
>barely plays into the mommy role
>not even a hint of /preg/
Meh.

>>43492242
Do you really think a high percentage of holo fans are doxx fags?

>>43493626
It's literally the only thing you can really leverage against her, and even then most people don't really give a shit. have you noticed that literally the only thing anybody actually knows about her?

Funny how this post aged.

>>43493958
>>43493626
>she's not popular because of Eddy
Oh come the fuck on. It's open knowledge all the girls in HoloEN are taken. Doesn't matter because most HoloEN simps are normies.
Council and Irys are not popular because they lack normie appeal.

op here I just woke up.
>>43483985
You bring up many good points. You're starting to make me think that perhaps Bae should be amongst the top as well, but Bae has very obvious filters pulling her down. Her voice (both volume and pitch) drive away even seasoned chuuba fans.

I guess I'm just genuinely confused as to how Mumei and Kroni are on top when the bottom two are both great packages.

You just got thinking about another thing: Isn't Kroni fluent in Korean? Why the fuck isn't she dominating that market?

>>43482729
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the whole vegan thing was a psy-op. It's not exactly hard to just say "oh I'm eatin veggies again!" every once in a while. At any rate, just about everything there seems like a (you) problem.
1. You problem.
2. That's your take on it. Personally I find her earnestness endearing.
3. Good. I ain't a coomer.
4. Fake news
5. Are youtelling me she's more over designed than the rat? Than the canuck?

>>43492161
that's fucken hot
I want her to be an idealized form of a human. You just described the difference of what you like when you're 17 versus what you like when you're 34. I'm much closer to the later nowadays and while the 17 year old sounds fun, I'd rather be with the 34 year old.

Fauna is maaaaybe in my top 5 girls in all of Hololive. Definitely top 10. But if I had a genie ask me to pick one of the girls to marry based solely off their online persona, Fauna is the choice hands down.
>no menhara
>cute as shit
>comfy
>supreme wife material (cooking skills, good conversationalist, etc.)

>>43469646
There's nothing unique about her.

I like her and think she's actually doing fairly well, but I know she has filters. I think people hear her voice and automatically associate it with anime tropes that often share a similar voice. Sweet, supportive but ultimately really boring female characters. It can be a negative first impression. Also I think there's a disconnect between the content she wants to do and her high streaming anxiety. She seems pretty anxious and has a few verbal tension releases, namely her UUUUUUUs and her nervous laugh. I think that works against her when she does the ASMR or comfy streams her voice seems built for, since the tension is pretty noticeable. I like her anyway because I think she's charming and surprisingly funny. I just get why some people are filtered.

>>43469646
She very humble and doesn't shill herself or try to stand out, that she just does naturally by being herself. It's what's made her a sleeper hit this past year.

>>43470819
>Now all of a sudden she can do it because it's what her fans are used to
I don't see the issue.

>>43492428
She deleted her older videos like 2-3 years ago because she was a minor in them. She literally did ASMR last week and had to pay her siblings to keep quiet.

-Her humor is too highbrow for most of her genmates and viewers
-She rarely says anything yabai or rages in game so she doesn't get any video clips that normalfags like
-She doesn't collab much outside of Council
-She doesn't want to draw extra attention to herself and doesn't stand out in large collabs

On the other hand she has consistently good viewer numbers and loyal fanbase because she streams regularly. Her ASMR is very popular and that is why she has more VODs with over 500k views than Bae, Mumei, and Kronii put together.

>>43483985
bae dumbest advice was following in moris "shoes"
mori did everything right but thew it all away later
bae did everything mori "taught" her aka the wrong way from the start
yuri baited, friend baited, unity baited, then went full on high on success and shitting on everything
mori be like don't worry bae just be you, don't care abt the gachis they are no-one, even those were the ones who elevated her in the first place.

>>43497855
>mori threw it all away
>literally got signed with fucking UMG
?????????

>>43497945
In the grand scheme she's not doing anything wrong, but her vtubing side has crashed as a result of stretching herself thin. I don't see what he means by Bae following her model though.

>>43497945
>>43498234
she got UMC, got to high on success and forgotten her roots.
became a raging whore,
we all know you're her fag supporters fagbeats.

>>43469646
Like Kiara, her voice is a big filter, although it's an opposite problem - Kiara comes off as shrill and grating, whereas Fauna's is overly cutesy.

>>43481005
you know she kind of reminds me like Boxxy and I have not exactly good memories of her

>>43490926
scene has nothing to do with nerdshit retard.
It's always been a watered down emo/goth shit for preppy ppl that didn't want to be preppy but liked the edge of the emo scene.

honestly, kys for making me remember these distinctions and know that should we ever cross paths your life is forfeit.

>>43479156
>Comically bad ASMR
bruh

>Also for the ASMR she does, you need to be degen to really embrace that kind of ASMR, even if you don't want to coombait you still need to fundamentally understand how to be intimate and please, Fauna just isn't tuned that way, or refuses to admit as such.
Anon you are clueless to asmr then. I listen to fauna specifically because it isn't lewd, unlike 90% of asmr out there which has girls doing weird kissing noises and sucking on the mic and basically fellating it.

>>43469646
Isn't she the most popular council member now

>>43472149
>She's skilled at ASMR
I don't know man, I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I think she's pretty low tier at ASMR. She could be good but she doesn't seem to plan her streams out or even deviate from her go-to triggers. Over all kinda boring is the problem

I'm in a weird middle ground where I don't actively enjoy Fauna or like her but her skill at the job is undeniable. She's good at streaming. Wish her voice didn't want to make me throw myself out a window.

>>43469646
It may not reflect in her subs, but her ccv has been steadily inclining.
More people are starting to realize how great she is. Wait until a clip from her Euro Truck stream starts making the rounds.

The only real complaints people can even bring up are that her singing isn't great and that she's so cute, well mannered, and drama free that she must be "fake" somehow. There might have been another reason early on, but that's hardly relevant nowadays.

>>43510567
>The only real complaints people can even bring up are that her singing isn't great
True. Still is fun to watch her karaoke and sing The Black Parade almost each time she gets up to the mic.