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>got rejected by kawa
>got rejected by idol
>no reply from cover

i cant take it anymore, im not a bad vtuber, im interesting enough, whenever i get exposure from bigger streamers I incline and people stay, my work style would make me suitable to be a corpo, why cant i make it anons.
(Yes im a woman before you comment 'kys homo')

>> No.43407785 [DELETED] 

>>43407742
kys troon

>> No.43407827

>>43407742
>no link
>no view stats
how the fuck do you expect people to take your story?
Post your fucking link, and we'll decide if the industry is unfair to you.

>> No.43407841

>>43407742
How is anyone supposed to know that when we don't even know your channel?

>> No.43407847

>>43407785
also not a troon, and fucking hate them, but im smart enough to not say that lest le troon twitter mob come after me and hurt my chances.

>> No.43407846 [DELETED] 

>>43407742
ywnbaw

>> No.43407849

Think about it this way. If there are 100 applicants, then there are ~95 or so people that are in your exact camp. They aren't any less talented than you, but like you, they are rejected too for people who the interviewers happen to like better at that moment. That's just the way the streamer lottery works.
(I realize this is a troll post, but this board is made for feeding trolls.)

>> No.43407880

>>43407742
You're probably ugly, boring, a faggot or just untalented.
Learn to use make up, pick up a hobby, stop living or just practice singing

>> No.43407882

>>43407742
small corpos look for desperate idiots
big corpos look for people in cliques or to fit into cliques
so you're saying you're smart and not a cliquenigger

>> No.43407884

>>43407742
how much do you stream? Do you stick to your schedule? I heard consistency is one of the main things they look at

>> No.43407902

keep applying, as long as you apply the chance of getting in is more than 0%. even 1% is enough chance. work hard on your content and give the best applications you can, and don't take a few rejections as an impossibility

>> No.43407917

>>43407827
i have posted my link a few times before in /wvt/, im not gonna be accused by vtweeters of begging for views on 4chan and get blacklisted from collabs/networking.

>> No.43407918 [DELETED] 

>>43407742
Be my wife

>> No.43407922

>>43407742
>Yes im a woman
That explains why you didn't get reply from cover

>> No.43407924

>>43407880
>You're probably ugly
A-Anonchama?

>> No.43407943
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43407943

Go back >>43352505

>> No.43407967

>>43407849
unironically not a troll, at this point i wish i was trolling but im just coping so hard. Im really happy that im growing but im greedy and I want more, i wanna talk to more people, i want more friends, i wanna make people happy.

>> No.43407985

>>43407917
Alright fine. Post your top three games and view stats.

>> No.43408022

>>43407924
Harsh reality is that most Hololive talent is attractive, it could be a coincidence but lets be honest if given an option between two equally talented people the recruiters will definitely pick the more attractive one

>> No.43408030

doxniggers refugees please.....

>> No.43408104

>>43407742
>no reply from cover
Have they already watched your video? I suggest you see a clip from many vtuber on how to become like them, their experience is useful in this kind of situation

>> No.43408130

>>43407967
One of the most important things about being a streamer is learning to cope with failure, because it's going to happen many, many times before you find that sliver of success.
If you can't cope with failure, then you are simply not cut out for it.

>> No.43408150

>>43408022
>Mori

Man, that's straight up lie. JP chuubas are attractive, but most of EN is incredibly ugly with a few exceptions.

>> No.43408165

Probably only applied once…

>> No.43408166

>>43407985
poe, league (havent played that in weeks/months though), just chatting

14.9 viewers

>>43407847
stop LARPING as me please.

>> No.43408195 [DELETED] 

>>43408166
So you are a tranny? Why man, why cut off your dick?

>> No.43408222

>>43408195
im not?

>> No.43408224

>>43408150
Mori has really let herself go in these past few years, she used to be okay looking

>> No.43408230

>>43408150
No. All of EN is beautiful. Also Mori was a real cutie before the fame and rapper life got to her.

>> No.43408247

>>43407742
it do be like that
keep trying

>> No.43408261

>>43407742
I don't know, maybe they don't like your voice or think it wouldn't fit in any of the models they have.

>> No.43408316

>>43407742
>>got rejected by idol
not cunny enough

>> No.43408321

I mean, if you're inclining as an indie, do you even need to become corpo?

>> No.43408323

>>43408261
This, usually companies will have the model already made and your voice just doesn't fit
Post a voice clip

>> No.43408349

>>43407742
Say the magic word anon, follow me:
Nigga~

>> No.43408351

>>43408261
yeah i can get that, but it just sucks knowing my own potential and what i could achieve, then trying to convince corpos of this and failing

>> No.43408350

>15 view
Even tempus shitters climbed to 75-150 before getting in. Even amelia fucking watson as a vtuber before the boom of vtubers was in low 100s

>> No.43408375

>>43407742
It's just numbers anon, if Aviel is truthful then over 1k people applied, of which around 5 got hired. That's less than 0.5% of applicants getting hired, I can't imagine kawa or cover being much different in that metric. There is just that many people who want to be vtuber, and seeing the benefits of being one you can't really be surprised.

>> No.43408376 [DELETED] 

>>43408222
Ok then, let's pretend you are not a trannie and that indeed you actually want people to have fun and you are not in just for the fame. Just keep trying femanon. Nene got rejected 4 times by Cover. Miko was about to quit when she gave it one last shot and got into Hololive. If you are half as good as you claim, you will make it.

>> No.43408413

>>43408351
Post voice or die

>> No.43408425

>>43408166
>League of Legends
Play something else, find a niche. Don't play the standard multiplayer slop. You might not be able to strike it rich, but it will mean you'll have a more loyal audience, long term

>> No.43408431

>>43408323
That shouldn't be an issue for idol since they design the characters based on input from the talents.

>> No.43408466

>>43407742
>im interesting enough
Most women aren't interesting at all, you think you are but you're really not.

>> No.43408467

>>43408321
i mean im still a 2 view, its just that im not declining which i though might be important to mention

>> No.43408480 [DELETED] 

>claim to be a woman
>no tits in sight
gtfo

>> No.43408482

>>43408150
Mori was hot when she started, she became a land whale later on.

>> No.43408488

>>43407742
>no reply from cover
You have nothing new/unique to offer

>> No.43408511

>>43407742
i dont think either of those two reject you either, they just ghost

>> No.43408528

>>43408480
We don't do that anymore.

>> No.43408533

>>43408376
i know i will make it, eventually. Its just keeping up the hope until I do and not giving up. Thanks though :)

>> No.43408602

>>43408166
>Just chatting
You're fighting against the wall of china, filled of copypasted personalities being in that twitch whore/reactors category. It's definitely a red flag you're uncreative as fuck.
Nearly all the /wvt/ chuubas ive seen whenever they do "Just Chatting", they just nosedive to into the trench.
>POE
Acceptable. Niche enough to retain viewers, not too mainstream to compete.
>League
Boring. bleh. Unless you're playing toplane, or jungle, why even bother.

You seem to like isometric RPG. Try to expand your knowledge, game experience towards that direction. Otherwise without much info about your channel nobody here can give a correct assessment.
I don't think views matters much at this point, since the box will carry any retard into the 1k minimum. But you do need to have a quirk and something unique about yourself that other's doesn't. Music writing? You play sports, did you get into curling, something people rarely play? Do you know simulator games with a sim rig? Do you watch F1 and follow a favourite team?
Also clean up your social media and erase any digital footprint, they can catch yabs pretty quick these days.

>> No.43408626

>>43408528
>We

>> No.43408686

>>43408350
You're thinking Holopro, OP mentioned small corpos, those sometimes get girls who can barely get 10 viewers

>> No.43408743

>>43407742
>no reply from Cover
did you demonstrate any other skills or talents outside of streaming games and chatting? Thats going to help your chances a lot, but as another Anon said, just keep applying.

>> No.43408749

>>43407742
If you are rocking anything other than your natural hair color in real life, ironically vtubing isn't for you.

>> No.43408766

>>43407742
If you were born with a dick between the legs then you are not a woman. You are mentally ill.

>> No.43408844

here voice for everyone asking
https://files.catbox.moe/f2w9mx.mp3

>> No.43408855

>>43407742
Mel Nekomata? Is that you?

>> No.43408861

>>43408602
Not the femanon but that's a funny take, almost everything I watch is zatsus. Don't really care about gameplay justvwanna hear the girl talk.

>> No.43408918

>kawa
Did you mean Kawaii?
Are you perhaps that girl who auditioned for Kawaii when gen 3 was announced and asked their general for advice?

>> No.43408936

>>43408602
i have started playing more strategy games like stellaris and civ ^^ expanding into a new niche since blonde woman is the only one running it right now

>> No.43408948

>>43407742
>im interesting enough
I really doubt this. If the other comment posted about 14.9 viewers is really you then you're not an interesting woman.

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>>43407742
>Not a troon
I need to see your hands.

>> No.43408991

>>43408844
cute

>> No.43408998

>>43408844
Sounds cute, and I think it would fit most models. Did you apply to other corpos as well, or just those three?

>> No.43409020

>>43408948
I disagree with that statement. You can be super interesting and still have low CCV due to oversaturation of the market and lack of exposure.

>>43408844

Hmmm, can you try saying a whole sentence?

>> No.43409029

>>43408973
i make it a rule to not post anything flesh related, not cause ugly (im okayish) but i want to keep up le immersion and also copy the style in which corpo vtubers only are vtubers and stay away from roommate posting on their mains.

>> No.43409030

>>43407742
Apply to NIJIEN

>> No.43409091

>>43409020
its embarrassing and im probably pitching my voice slightly higher than normal but doesnt really matter if i can maintain it (which i can for at least 7 hour streams)

https://files.catbox.moe/wt5ftc.mp3

>> No.43409113

>>43409020
I think that oversaturation is something that only affects men. There is no oversaturation of interesting women because they're so damn rare.

>> No.43409135

>>43409030
i mean, if they open auditions i would consider, but at the same time they are kinda crashing and burning with yabs and i dont wanna be forced to collab with males.

>> No.43409187

>>43409091
Your timbre is already cute and soft-spoken though, you shouldn't force your pitch that much.

>> No.43409194

Legit start thinking of a kayfabe. When you treat the vtuber as just your avatar, it shows, and despite what they may say, it's a plus with corpos. The vtuber IS (You), but it's also its own character.

>>43408844
If you aren't exaggerating the voice too much (in which case, stop, or just keep it to a minimum), then you just need to learn to sell yourself.

>> No.43409209

>>43408844
>>43409091
>>43409135
I unironically want to check out your streams now.

>> No.43409228

>>43408466
>>43408948
interesting compared to what else is on offer.

>>43408855
no, sorry havent heard of that chubba either

>> No.43409239 [DELETED] 

>>43407742
Let's date

>> No.43409251

>>43408166
The games you play are terrible no offense. You need to do more. Not just diversify your games but also you have to put out youtube videos. If you're really serious drop a few grand on a model people want to fuck non stop like shy lily. Then invest in marketing. That will bring some people in. You have to work. That means investing time and money.

>> No.43409288

>>43409194
thats what i do, i am my vtuber whenever i do anything, 4chan is the only place im out of character. If i just acted as myself i wouldnt be able to stream well due to shyness.

>> No.43409307 [DELETED] 

ACK!

>> No.43409309

>>43408375
>it's 10x harder to get into a small corpo vtuber company than fucking Harvard
Damn

>> No.43409317

>Kawa
Yeah you're not getting in there unless nepotism, ironically enough. The ones selected for Gen 2 were close to the "owners" and Gen 1 members.

>> No.43409336

>>43409091
>doesnt really matter if i can maintain it
Never think like that. Why do you think Holos have to do that throat surgery kinda thing? It's because they did the pitch, even when they "could take it".
Also, don't listen to >>43409209, you may be someone to watch, but linking yourself in this hellhole is never a good idea, see >>43408855.

>> No.43409342

>>43408222
Ollie got rejected 8 times by cover. Keep trying. Why do you get dejected so easily? If this is something you want then you have to keep pushing even if you get rejected 20 times. Then when you get hired and make it you can say "I got rejected 20 times lol".

>> No.43409357

>>43409239
no thanks, i would never betray my viewers. Sorry anon.

>>43409251
I actually have a pretty decent model (not so much rigging) but I make it work and it fits my voice. I have been making an effort to do far more just chatting recently, as i stated earlier branching out into strategy games because i have a genuine love for them, and been thinking of trying out asmr too.

>> No.43409404

>>43409113
Huh? Not really. Over saturation for female chuubas is very real. IRyS for example was a 2 view before Hololive and she hasn't changed much if it at all from her old persona. Yet you would probably never heard of her if it wasn't for Hololive.

>> No.43409417

>>43407742
>im not a bad vtuber, im interesting enough
that's not for you to say

>> No.43409429

>>43409342
I mean I have been rejected far more times than just these 3, its just this was within the past month. I do confess my content was far more boring so im not surprised I got rejected when I auditioned a year or 2 years ago. Thanks though anon, I wont give up!!

>> No.43409486

>>43409357
>not so much rigging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPvDXeQOko
You sure? Even in corpos, sometimes when they do the "changing models" skit, the models show completely new expressions. You sure you have seen everything your model can emote?

>> No.43409535

>>43409187
yeah i am pretty quiet, i try not to be because i dont want to be unintelligible, but at the same time i would cry if i was one of those super loud shouty peaking the mic tubers that you had to turn the volume down on. Idk why i think like that i just do.

>> No.43409542

What is your stance on Nintendo games? If you are going to be stubborn on your games due to the following you've had of your core audience, you wont grow. If they enjoy your streams they should follow on low intensity games where you can still bounce off chat, that's where nintendo titles help.

>> No.43409603

>>43409486
yeah no i paid very little for my rigging, I saw the video and laughed because I already super exaggerate my emotions but I was unironically my riggers 2nd ever client and the rigging isnt great. However, its good enough though that I shouldnt spend more money.

I havent updated my model either, Im not big on 'brand new shiny thing!!' even if it would help me grow.

>> No.43409608

>>43407742
Drop your channel here sister, i will be your member

>> No.43409616

Maybe you should invest in your current vtuber persona more. Stuff like profile banners on the social media you're using, stream layouts and effects. I don't know how good your stuff is currently but you should aim to make everything as polished as any of the big corpo vtubers out there. You would be a lot more likely to land a job at the big corpos if you look as professional as possible or you might end up just succeeding as an indie altogether and not need the corpos in the end.

>> No.43409636

>>43409091
SOLD
Kind of reminds me to Zeta
Don't force your pitch too much though, throat issue will be a pain in the ass

>> No.43409654

>>43409135
you really need to leave this place

>> No.43409679

>>43409091
Fucking cute. I'm sold.

>> No.43409682

>>43409135
Holy based

>> No.43409696

>>43409616
it is very polished, my twitter looks very good, I commissioned lots of good art (havent gotten any new art in almost a year though, because what I have works and its high quality). The quality of social media/how stuff looks is a non issue (in my eyes). Maybe I am the problem and im just really boring, however watching other peoples content I firmly think I do offer better entertainment, and its just about finding ways to expose myself to new audiences and shill myself.

>> No.43409701

>>43407742
hi! I'm on the same boat, don't let that discourage you. i know it's hard not to but a lot of small corpos are not better than being indie. idol is a big one and maybe you just weren't what they're looking for. think like this: there are usually 5 slots for thousands of applications. as sad as it is your chances are never going to be high, just keep trying and someday you'll make it. motivation is a factor they consider.

>> No.43409763 [DELETED] 

you tranny fucks will never a woman. kys

>> No.43409771

>>43409696
What theme does your character posses though?

>> No.43409793

I will give you guys a pretty big clue, i mean if you know how to check archives that is. I was on filians 'gaslight' show recently, some people posted about me in /wvt/ saying they liked me alot. Thats what gives me hope that I am likable.

>> No.43409833

>>43409701
thank you anon, i truly hope you make it too!! if i ever make it i'll find you and nepotism you in, because its okay when i do it :)

>> No.43409839

>>43409696
I know I've said this before on this thread and same for other anons but, it's something you need to always keep in mind. Hard work and talent aren't the only factors to make it. You also need luck. I know it's a lame take and you are probably just looking for reassurance here but, you will make it eventually if you don't give up. Be kinder to yourself OK?

>> No.43409847
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43409847

>>43409603
>I havent updated my model either
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity"
While it's true, legit evaluate it. Is your model "technically good", good or "commercially good"? Continuing with the vtuber I posted, pic related used to be her model until very early 2022. While not bad, she probably would've been unable to catch her big break if she didn't debut her new model just before all those opportunities came knocking.

>> No.43409859

>>43409357
Games you should play are Doom eternal, Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Nioh 2, and Sekiro. Stay away from games like Apex, Overwatch, and League because they are snooze fests. Just chatting is only good to maintain your current audience or do something special for them like ASMR or reading donations. Do not rely on it as content when you're growing. The games I mentioned for you to play are a good starting point and are ones that people will always stop by to watch especially if you're a vtuber waifu.

>> No.43409915

>>43409847
my model is better than a vroid, Its made by an artist who did snuffys older model and other big vtubers (I got my model before these big vtubers commissioned them though, i didnt just trend hop to try and ride their coattails)

>> No.43409956

>>43409859
>especially if you're a vtuber waifu
Don't listen to this retard. If you're good and not a bitch (different from whore), you're gonna get waifu'd anyways. Unless you enjoy it, legit don't do shit you're uncomfortable with, because either it'll show, or you'll grow to resent your audience.

>> No.43409972

>>43409859
The only exceptions for just chatting would be if you can make your viewers cum by talking to them because of how sexy you are like shy lily or make them fall in love with you by love bombing as a cute anime waifu like Yuko. I'm assuming you can't because if you could then you wouldn't be asking for help. Stick to games and if people start doing GFE stuff in your chat like asking to marry you then indulge them.

>> No.43410016

>>43409833
we can do it anon o7 the road is hard and in my own experience I've been rejected over 20 times by i think 8 different companies, as you keep growing you stop shooting for the small ones and someday the big ones are (hopefully!) going to notice your efforts, either way. keep your head up, i will also nepotism hire you!!

>> No.43410024

>>43409956
im pretty comfortable with everything, im very desensitised to everything and pretty lax on most stuff.
Im not a whore and dont commission R18 art, but I dont care what people say about me and personally have no issue with parasocial stuff.

>> No.43410057

>>43409956
The point is to diversify and try interesting games. Those games are attention grabbers especially since women usually don't like to play challenging games.

>> No.43410062

>>43408375
At least one of them was scouted rather than applied (and she only got ~25 viewers as an indie) so it's even worse odds.

>> No.43410077

>>43410016
if you are a girl i want to be your best friend now, you are very cute what the heck !! i hope i find you someday anon and we can do kino collabs :(

>> No.43410099

>>43409972
>if people start doing GFE stuff in your chat like asking to marry you then indulge them
This, but not too much. It's a delicate balancing act. You don't shoo them away, because after all, they're still a part of your audience, but you also don't show yourself as giving them too much attention, because it'll slowly lead to the rest of your audience thinking you're shifting into GFE, despite it not being your intention.
Just remember that most GFEfags are content with crumbs.

>> No.43410101

>>43409793
you shouldn't have done that

>> No.43410144

>>43410024
I'm honestly ver curious about your current channel after everything you have said and the audio sentence you posted.

>> No.43410159

>>43410101
probably not, but im very dumb, and i also like most of you anons. As long as no one outs me it will be ok... right???

>> No.43410167

Also, whatever you do, please remember that groomers do exist, so be very careful about trusting strangers in the internet, especially those in a basketweaving taiwanese online sweatshop.

>>43410101
Considering the post style, it's probably a larper.

>> No.43410171

>>43407742
>didn't apply for phase
lmao

>> No.43410208

>>43410167
if people wanna groom me, go for it. Just know I will reverse groom you because im also mentally ill anon.

And no that was me, only had 1 LARP in this thread so far earlier.

>> No.43410234 [DELETED] 

>>43407742
Are you a virgin? This is important.

Also the last chuuba who blatantly self advertised /here/ like this ended up almost killing herself a week ago. Make sure you are ready for the worst.

>> No.43410239

>>43410171
>oh no i did, just havent been rejected yet

>> No.43410245

>>43410077
>if you are a girl i want to be your best friend now, you are very cute what the heck !! i hope i find you someday anon and we can do kino collabs :(

People like this guy (while creepy af) can be huge for you if you hook them in with parasocial lures. They would actually see you as an ersatz girlfriend and you can become popular and wealthy from their donations/influence.

>> No.43410266

>>43407742
assuming you're not larping, try to look for something to do that costs little focus so you can still talk like you're doing a zatsu, but there's something for your viewers to watch. pick up a new skill like drawing or writing. Do pixel art if you can. so long as you can get practice in, and can communicate with an audience I'm sure that could get some views now and again, especially if you interact with your chat often enough.

Just keep in mind, the bigger you get, the harder it is to talk to your fans because what will start as 10 or so people you can call friends will become a mass of people you can't possibly get to understand. and You won't be able to make every voice happy. It sucks, but be prepared to start keeping a distance between you and your fans when the time comes

>> No.43410286

>>43410245
ANON THAT WAS ME SAYING THAT !! D:

>> No.43410328

You're on twitch..bummer..

>> No.43410359

>>43410239
Auditions only just closed.

>> No.43410368

>>43408844
Trying too hard lolinigger

Give me some voice of a 35 year old woman

>> No.43410373

>>43410208
Ok, femanon, this is my final request. (I'm the anon from >>43409020)

Could you record a "Please groom me anon uwu" pretty please?

>> No.43410390

>>43410077
uuuuu yes I'm a girl ; A ;
hmmm I wish 4chan had DMs LOL
I tried to find you with the tips you said but I couldn't aaa

>> No.43410394

>>43410099
Nah the best streamers rely on that. Look at Yuko compared to her genmates and you'll the the power of full blown parasocial delusions. If you make your fans rely on you for love you can become infinitely popular. I'm a numberfag because the numbers don't lie.

>> No.43410398

>>43410328
But I upload my vods to youtube!! :(

>> No.43410422

Remember that this place is a hellhole, and if real, youre' lucky the first reply wasn't nigger like with Beatani.

>> No.43410450

>>43410286
Lmao you'll fit in well with this community then. Act like that towards your male audience and you will become more powerful than you can ever imagine.

>> No.43410500

/here/chuubas are all inherently terrible so good luck I guess

>> No.43410553

>>43410368
fair, im not to everyones tastes and thats okay. I hope you find the chubba you're looking for anon

>>43410373
only if you help me find the other femanon so i can be her friend.

>> No.43410561 [DELETED] 

>>43407742
Do you have a boyfriend currently?
Did you have any in the past?

>> No.43410588 [DELETED] 

>>43407742
Because you're a disgusting seamonkey.

>> No.43410591

>>43408350
>Even tempus shitters climbed to 75-150 before getting in
This is a lie btw

>> No.43410621

>>43410561
no and no, im a stay in my room neet which has its upsides and downsides. Not because I havent been asked, just not interested in maintaining that when streaming makes me happier

>> No.43410632

>>43408844
you sound cute and hating trannies makes you a good choice but you also sound like an asian moba player which means you need to find another way to stand out as those are a dime a dozen, maybe DM fishman and ask to join his league harem

>> No.43410728

>>43408936
There's also Clio and her growth has been meteoric so maybe strategy games will help you too.

>> No.43410758

As I see it, there are a lots of ways for you to go. Of course, you can also become a mix of either.
>become GFE
Just give up every pretense and start pandering. Pros are that you'll always get fuckstupid amounts of money at least. Cons is that if you ever have a "yab", you won't grow past being GFEbait.
>keep at it
Maybe it's just that opportunity hasn't come knocking yet. Pros are that you're less likely to hate all of it. Cons is that depending on your resilience, you're gonna get stressed until you feel like you made it.
>pander to your audience
You're just a puppet for your audience, research popular and FotM shit, become one with the twitch meta. Pros are that you'll become popular, maybe even aspire to leech of more popular fleshtubers and even appear on LSF sometime. Cons is that you will eventually start hating everything about your audience.
Also keep >>43410500 in mind. While I like a few /here/chuubas, most of them are cringe and you can notice certain patterns when you realize they're /here/.
Remember that advertising yourself isn't a bad thing, but leeching is. Are you yourself, or just an accessory?

>> No.43410829

>>43407742

vtubing is massively oversaturated now, you are competing with many more applications then past gens at these companies had.

>> No.43410831

>>43410591
Magni had a pretty big youtube channel and ~500 viewers

>> No.43410871

>>43407742
Whatever you do, no matter how desperate you are. Never apply for WACTOR.

>> No.43410891

>>43410728
hopefully, im not too terrible at games so i will keep at it.

>>43410758
thanks anon, this is nice advice to have

>> No.43410920

>>43408936
>Stellaris
Good for chat interactivity. I might loathe Paradox and all their bullshit, but it's a great way to pull suggestions from the chat without going full parasocial.
>Civ
Not sure how good of a choice that is. I'd recommend V as it's the fastest, especially if you play on quick. VI gets bogged down late game and IV is very dense.
Some strategy suggestions I'd make:
>Faster Than Light
>Slay the Spire
>Endless Legend
>Total War: Shogun 2
>Monster Train
>Against the Storm
All are fairly accessible and quick to pick up. I'd also recommend RPGs or Adventure games, too. They've usually got good starting and stopping points. Some pretty stylish ones I can recommend:
>Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin
>Okami
>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
>Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (warning: you'll have to emulate that and Nintendo doesn't play nice)

>> No.43410929 [DELETED] 

If its a group of 5.
two nepotism hire.
two meritocracy hire (established works, etc).
one wildcard hire.
Usually the wildcard will be the punching bag for numbers, so the others won't be as stressed about their performance. But I do think you have the chance getting into wildcard slot, but eventually blow past them if you play your cards right.
Loli acceptance in EN sphere however... you have better luck with the kike corpo.

>> No.43411000

>>43410929
>Loli acceptance
Irrelevant. The people who throw a shit fit about it are people you never want in your audience to begin with.

>> No.43411018

>>43410553
The femanon can easily find you if you she can look for the archives. Me trying to help you find the femanon will only lead to larpers and trolls to pretend they are the femanon. Thanks for the offer anyway, but I'd rather not bring out the worst of this site just for a selfish request I ask of you.

>> No.43411042

Honestly even if you have all the right traits it’s mostly down to luck. I applied to a lot of corpos back in the day and it was only by repeatedly applying that I managed to get any response out of them, so I wouldn’t get too dejected. Most Vtubers they’re picking from are really similar and you could get chosen by even a slight difference. Sometimes they’re not looking for your type of personality either. I understand that it’s common to feel like that in this industry since the slots are so limited, but it’s important to keep trying. I’ve seen some corpos become interested due to the sheer determination of certain Vtubers so don’t give up and keep going at it, I believe in you anon!

>> No.43411112

>>43411000
i mean i wouldnt call my current model a loli, im pretty indifferent to it, i think its cute, i understand why some people are weird about it but i dont agree with them.

>>43411018
hmph. fine whatever. she said she couldnt so i guess i will never know :( . take ur reward for doing nothing lazy anon, simply because im really really nice and feel like doing charity work today. https://files.catbox.moe/9agdt4.mp3

>> No.43411118 [DELETED] 

ack!

>> No.43411120

like seriously, shut the fuck up and stop replying if you're still in this thread. You have potential, just have some patience, you have barely streamed consistently for the past 3 months. Stop looking for attention here and keep streaming regularly, you're doing great, but posting here is genuine career suicide.

>> No.43411139

>>43410891
Yeah if you go the GFE route you need to make sure your past is "clean" like you never did porn or had 10 different Dom boyfriends who beat you with whips during sex or something. Also it means you'll have to take opsec seriously to avoid leaking your bf/gf to the internet (see Rushia). Those things always come out later and if you rely on GFE you're done at that point because your mentally ill fans see you as their girlfriend unironically and you just "cheated" on them. There's no recovery once it gets to that point. I'm not saying don't do GFE but just know what you're in for.

>> No.43411160 [SPOILER] 

>>43411120
ok got it anon, thanks im going, hopefully i said enough so if people really wanna find me they can, but not too much that i hurt my future options.

>> No.43411190

>>43411120
This is the best advice. Everyone on this Godforsaken board is either here to gush about their favorite or engage in drama based shitposting. We are not a good source of advice Yes, that includes me, I'm well aware. That said, Twitter and, may Allah forgive me, Reddit are at least just as bad, if not worse.

>> No.43411220

>>43411018
I'm still trying to find.. :'( it's not easy, or maybe I'm bad at searching

>> No.43411226
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>>43411120
based

>> No.43411229

>>43407742
any signs of schizophrenia should result in a permanent IPrange ban on /vt/

>> No.43411241

>>43407742
Nice larping thread, faggot.

>> No.43411265

>>43411160
You opened the gates to the worst fanbase you can ever get as a vtuber. Good luck.
Hopefully you don't (almost) an hero like the mentally ill brapper who did this before you.

>> No.43411268

attention seeking whore corpo reject thinking they deserve their own thread, feel free to get your own head out of your ass and realize you actually need to stream

>> No.43411336

>>43411268
im sorry you feel that way anon, im trying my best and being as consistent as i can, I will try even better just for you. Now I really will go, I have an AOE2 campaign to complete.

>> No.43411365

>>43411112
Aaaaa thank you for making my week femanon.

>>43411220

Sigh, search "filians 'gaslight' show" on google. Now use your brain to piece together the voice samples given here and the chuubas speaking in one of the videos.

>> No.43411370

Found you. You had 7 hour long stream 4 videos ago. You made it pretty easy.

>> No.43411394

>>43411265
Be fair, anon. We may be bad, but we're nowhere near the level of the Twitter-Twitch crowd. I've seen those motherfuckers try to groom 40 year old men.

>> No.43411457

>>43411265
Anon every vtuber has their toxic fanbase here, nothing changes for her in the end. I agree it would be smarter not to stare at the abyss, look at Vei, had to disappear to filter out the worst of her parasocial fanbase, and those guys are prob still salty lurking here.

>> No.43411525

>>43411457
Yeah but she courted them in the first place. It's why I think pandering to unicornfags or GFE is a terrible idea for your long term stability both as a performer and as a person. It seems like every girl who goes for that crowd inevitably ends up going full menhara at some point and either self-sabotages or crumbles emotionally.

>> No.43411546

>>43411365
i did it, i found her! thank you anon o7

>> No.43411647

>>43411546
I'm glad you found her. One of these days I'll drop by her stream and gift her 5 subs for being cute and gifting me those voice samples.

>> No.43411735

Hello OP, you are now literally my wife

>> No.43411811
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43411811

I can make you a big star if you become my gf

>> No.43411855

>>43411525
Well yeah, no one sane stays here for long. Just treat her as a tourist and hopefully she's smart enough to understand what a containment bored means and not return. As for stability, hope she finds some core friends whether staff, fans or colleagues, and not this shit hole.

>> No.43411859

>>43407742
Have you consider joining schizo connect

>> No.43411902

>>43410234
Mel is alive and I doubt anyone in vtubing is as mentally ill as Mel anyway

>> No.43411951

>>43411902
I miss her

>> No.43412022

>>43411902
>>43411951
any pandering chuuba with a thread actively open during stream as a second chat deserves to die anyways

>> No.43412042

>>43411265
it's not like this is the first time she has posted here, so it's a door already open.

>> No.43412081

>looking through the archives for news on Mel/Aya
>this thread came up
Dammit I thought you guys were actually taking about her.

>> No.43412287

>>43412081
sorry anon

>> No.43412304

>>43407742
show bagina

>> No.43412401

>>43411120
Why this board has so many faggots like this who keep trying to scare vtubers away?
She is not gonna fuck you, retard.
Yeah this place has a lot of shitposters, but if you cant take the joke then you wont make it as a big streamer anyway.

>> No.43412470

>>43410591
Exception to the rule honestly. I'm more surprised Niji didn't pick him up first because they like big names. Bettel had 26 streams in a month to 1~20 view and that kind of was definitely valued seeing the hours & ccv he's pumping currently in the recent gen.

>> No.43412473

https://www.twitch.tv/icelynwinter

>> No.43412513

>>43411855
Anon if you haven't realized yet this "shit hole" is filled with both 1view and 5view vtubers. Those "core friends" she'll find if they're in industry probably also post on /vt/. Much of the blatant toxicity is vtubers shitting on other vtubers.

>> No.43412561

>>43412473
thanks, I'll anti her now

>> No.43412611

>>43411855
Bunch of vtubers uses this. Pippa is a heavy user here

>> No.43412663

>>43407742
>no reply from cover
Lol you idiot you thought EN management was gonna debut any more girls.

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43412749

I'm sorry femanon, there is nothing we can really do to help you other than give you advices you probably already read, just stay safe and please don't have a mental breakdown on stream because of numbers like the last girl I watched who advertised herself here

>> No.43412761

>>43407742
There are thousands of people trying to do the same thing as you. The bar is getting raised higher. Maybe your voice or attitude simply didn't match the image of any of the character designs they have ready. Maybe there's something in your current history that turns them off? Look, even current members of those groups have had difficult times. Look at Suisei. If you really want to succeed, keep trying, study the successful people out there and learn from what makes them successful (if it can fit your persona) and do your best. If you're rejected, ask for advice. Don't just be left hanging.

>> No.43412770

>>43408166
>>43408936
Bleh League player, but if you're willing to go deeper into the whole strategy game thing, I would recommend you Warcraft 3.
1. Warcraft is one of the foundational pillars of RTS (alongside C&C and AOE)
2. It's not as "overdone" as AOE2 on stream (not that RTS itself can be called overdone, but AOE2 is a very popular choice from the genre because it's easy to learn and slower paced), so by choosing Warcraft you offer an alternative to people with AOE fatigue.
3. C&C is extremely fun but might be a challenge for someone just starting out.
4. League is a MOBA like DOTA. The original DOTA itself was a mod of Warcraft 3, so out of all RTS you could pick up, this would be closer to what you already play than other titles.

>> No.43412826

Perfect for Pickme Connect.

>> No.43412879

>>43412473
If this is actually her, she needs to talk a LOT more when she plays games. Just opened the Minecraft stream and no matter where I skip to, she's barely talking at all.

>> No.43413098

>>43412473
If this is really her, then this isn't her first thread there.
>>/vt/thread/S8469657

>> No.43413154

>>43412879
Pretty sure this is her. The voice matches the posted links and she appeared on filian's thing. You're right though, lots of dead air during games. She has a cute voice, pretty good model and the just chatting streams seem okay. She just needs to figure out how to put the just chatting and games together.

>> No.43413216

>>43413098
>I have played games like AOE2, Dune 2000, and Galactic Civilizations III
>Dune 2000
AYOOOOO
I rescind what I said >>43412770, go pick up Tiberian Sun right now.

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>>43407742
>tries to join holo after seeing Yagoo going full homo on the EN side even if they're mostly utter failures
You will never be a man.

>> No.43413292

>>43413098
>P.S dont be too depressed over hololive en gen 2 debut, im sure over time one of them will become your favourite oshi and everything will work out.
haha

>> No.43413293

>>43413098
Catalog nigger, read the actual thread. She mentioned it she already has posted here several times.

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>>43412473
>https://www.twitch.tv/icelynwinter
>br*t*sh

>> No.43413382

>>43407742
Ah great, another seething 3view that will shit the catalog once EN3 finally debuts, just what we needed!

>> No.43413538

>>43408261
Saying that when kiara is a thing

>> No.43413595

>>43408844
this might sound crazy but you sound very similar to mumei which is maybe why hololive wouldn't hire you

>> No.43413597

>>43410920
>you'll have to emulate that and Nintendo doesn't play nice
That's really not a problem for indies on twitch because everyone is doing it. As long as you're not explicitly saying that you are emulating it's safe.

>> No.43413618

>>43407742
You just don't have "it"

>> No.43413635

>>43413595
And mumei sounds familiar to gura and they hired her.. kek

>> No.43413646

>2view
>thinking about playing strategy games
finally my very own seething and groomable Lumi clone

>> No.43413649

>>43409091
holy shit you sound really cute

>> No.43413745

is this a desperate attempt to become a /here/ tuber? you are going to regret it in the long run, don't do it

>> No.43413776

>>43407742
>>43407917
>>43408166
>>43409357
why not try NijiEN?

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>>43408602
>Unless you're playing toplane, or jungle, why even bother.

>> No.43413845

>>43413776
I don't want a niji anti from /here/ to join nijien

>> No.43413886

>>43407742
>i cant take it anymore, im not a bad vtuber, im interesting enough, whenever i get exposure from bigger streamers I incline and people stay, my work style would make me suitable to be a corpo
This mindset might be making you complacent. Always work harder and improve on yourself - there's no cosmic justice or karma. Everyone deserves what they get, no more and no less.

>> No.43413933

>>43413845
struggle to be worse than the retards they have been picking up recently

>> No.43413947

>>43411525
There's plenty of vtubers who got to 3view territory by getting shilled /here/. The secret is nor making beeing /here/ your personality and not getting too close to the /asp/ and /wvt/ cliques since those are drama magnets.

>> No.43413966

>>43408936
>^^
bro... stop
jesus christ

>> No.43414002

>>43412770
I can't remind of a single chuuba playing war3, it's a unexplored place, on old games, i've only seen a few 2view playing ragnarok

>> No.43414017

>>43413966
XD ^^

>> No.43414020

>>43413947
I'm talking about, specifically, doing content that targets lonely single men like that. Eventually, you WILL fuck up. You WILL accidentally mention a partner or a past partner. You WILL say something that causes a civil war in your fanbase. You WILL get oilers and Discord faggots trying their damndest to groom you. The money and quick attention might be tempting, but it's a poison apple.

>> No.43414037

>>43414017
=/

>> No.43414046

>>43413808
I've been playing for 5 years and the best advice I can give is go support and steal all the kills.
Otherwise you're guaranteed to be bored the fuck out.

>> No.43414062

>>43408936
>^^
Bro not stop I hard like a rock
>Also
Do GFE dont be stupid (or be stupid with GFE)

>> No.43414106

>>43413635
Mumei sounds like gura if she was on sleeping pills all the time.

>> No.43414109

>>43413635
they actually sound a bit different, I just think they collab they end up kind of tuning to the same voice, anyway after going to her twitch and listening a bit more she sounds different enough so disregard my earlier comment

>> No.43414177

>>43414046
my advice is stop playing retarded assfaggots.

>> No.43414185

>>43407742
okay, here's what you're gonna do.
first of all, just be yourself.
then, take a shower, get dressed all nice and professional, then take your application and just walk into the hololive production offices.
look yagoo in the eye, give him a firm handshake and don't take no for a response.
it's that simple, that's how i got my construction gig back in the day, which led me to owning multiple property complexes and renting them out. sometimes i evict single mothers, that's kinda difficult, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

>> No.43414201

>>43412473
She's cute. I like her eyes. Also is that a mod or just a texture pack in her minecraft stream?

>> No.43414289

You're cute, I'll watch you, that's as much as I can do for you.

>> No.43414464

>>43407742
>got rejected by kawa
>got rejected by idol
>no reply from cover
You just posted on 4chan complaining about it, and you REEAAAALLLY ask why the didnt pick you?
Kys half a view failure

>> No.43414481

>>43407742
If you wanna bigger chance at cover, you might wanna add some karaoke streams

>> No.43414489

>>43414046
My advice is to play for fun, playing to get better is a meme unless you've got a serious and competitive team
Top is the lane of chads

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>>43409336
Legit good advice?
Not in my /vt/

>> No.43414564

>>43407742
Don't give up, you at least can apply as long as you are willing to. I just got banned from the hololive fan server on Discord and they didn't even give me a reason, even when I change my IP I won't return to a place like that.

>> No.43414618

>>43407742
Whore, you just want to ride the Tempus cocks

>> No.43414661

>>43414177
I'm addicted. I cant stop

>> No.43414929

>>43409091
>scouting husbandos
Count me in

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43415087

You have impure motivations, I will not help you.

>> No.43415236

>>43409091
Welcome back

>> No.43415304

>>43412473
>anglo
https://youtu.be/JlCiYJm9x94?t=864
Holy shit, either fix your mic or stop talking in whispers.

>> No.43415647

>>43414661
uninstall

>> No.43415777

>>43414661
switch to crack instead

>> No.43415794

>>43407742
Nene got rejected like 4 times before getting it
Just keep trying, make yourself a familiar face for your recruiters while improving your content reps.

>> No.43415815

>>43407742
Shitposting aside, what are my options in terms of corpos if I'm straight dude?

>> No.43415851

>>43407742
Nene of Hololive applied 10 times to get in, Suisei also was rejected at first, but reply back to ask why. For Hololive it is 3 to 5 spots among thousands of applicants.

>> No.43415852

>/wvt/ this
>/wvt/ that
Sorry but corpos only want /lig/ chads

>> No.43415889

>>43415815
Niji and holostars. Maybe myholo if they're in the mood to hire males again.

>> No.43415939

>>43415852
Why the fuck would a /lig/ger join a corpo that's not holo or maybe niji?

>> No.43415955

>>43407742
maybe its because you are an eop amerimutt subhuman obsessed with politics and such amerimutt garbage. also as long as you post here, you can never be a decent vtuber. 4chan is just a place for lazy ass people who always search excuse. same goes for reddit, twatter and so on. twatter niggers can never be any decent professional person. if you want to be decent just stop posting here and never go to twatter.

>> No.43415965

>>43415852
lol, actual /lig/s already made it, if they join a corpo it's only because they want much more exposure

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>>43415955

>> No.43416102

>>43415889
Thanks a lot

>> No.43416215

>>43407742
You are too focused on your own incline. You must be extremely passionate about the incline of the company you are applying to. Then you may have a chance.

>> No.43416276

>>43415851
Nene is just retarded, what happened to her is that she sent the application a bunch of times thinking it would increase her chances and got told she was retarded by the recruiters. She didn't get rejected a bunch of times and kept trying.

>> No.43416336

Found you. May or may not have sent an email also to certain corpos to be on the lookout for you. Included a link to this thread as well. :)

>> No.43416339

>>43416276
Even that is a good characteristic. Anything to make you stand out.
Does this chuuba even have anything interesting to her? Stories, or a way to keep chat engaged?

>> No.43416426

>>43407742
Apply to pippas company
you female woman

>> No.43416440

>>43407742
Assuming this isn't just bait, there are more indy 3 and 4 views than corpo. Those slots are very limited, so if you want one you have to be patient, keep streaming, and keep applying.

>> No.43416577

>>43412473
No surprise why she didn't get accepted into any company. She always sounds bored, never knows what to say, hardly any gameplay commentary, and just isn't fun to watch at all.

Icelyn, you have a long way to go before you would be accepted into any company (even a new one). You said you're interesting, but you're not. You're boring. Think of it from a company's perspective, would you be able to make money for them? Are you marketable? Do they gain ANYTHING from hiring you?

>> No.43416656

>>43407742
Do you know pekora?

>> No.43416733

>>43416276
nenechi....

>> No.43416736

>>43416656
NO!

>> No.43416844

>>43410024
Fucking sold.

>> No.43416921

>>43412473
Watched your intro video and they're a huge disconnect between the whacky personality you're trying to portray and the deadpan delivery. It's like Ceres Fauna narrating the transcript of a Pipkin Pippa stream. If I was founding a vtuber agency with my daddy's trust fund money I would want you to either adopt a sweet, girly personality or speak up and emote more.

>> No.43416962

>>43415794
Nene didn't get rejected. She THOUGHT she got rejected when she didn't immediately hear back from Cover. She was just retarded.

>> No.43417022

>>43415852
those girls very rarely join corpos, even for HoloEN some of them weren't even /lig/ tier

>> No.43417090

>>43416577
Ina got in didnt she?

>> No.43417132

>>43416577
Since she mentioned Idol, it's an interesting comparison. Rin is also a british vtuber who was a low 2view, but the personality was the complete opposite. She never shut up, constant commentary and energy even with nothing coming back from chat. Fairly standard content but with high effort gimmick streams sprinkled in. No success, but the portfolio stood out enough to get noticed.
Obviously there are multiple ways to appeal, but you need to have something to sell yourself on.

>> No.43417255

What are your talents? What are your skills? Why do you feel entitled to have a job with a company? What do you bring FOR them? What do you have to offer them?

If you can't answer these questions then the only reason you should ever be hired at Cover/Anycolor/anywhere else is plunging toilets and cleaning floors, a fucking janitor.

>> No.43417259

>>43416921
fauna reading one of pippa's rants while giggling would be top tier content don't go denying it

>> No.43417262

>>43417090
She's a professional artist. She has talent unlike Icelyn

>> No.43417354

>>43417262
>artist
>correlates to streaming ability to entertain people
????
Hire an architect to do bank accounting?

>> No.43417411

>>43417354
Entertainment is entertainment, math is math.

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Work on your dead air. Your high pitch voice is not as consistent as you think it is. You should interact more with other vtubers (and by that make actual friendships and not the networking kind, though that is also valid as long as you know what you are actually doing). You should work more on doing engaging tweets (you replying to some other people is cool, but don't do it to only tweets with 1000 other replies). Separate your VOD channel from your clips channel. Your TikTok link on your carrd and your "links" section is broken (you should also include it in your Twitch "about me" alongside your YT channel(s)). You have "strategy games" in your "what games you play" but nothing to show it. I see no karaoke streams (or the confidence) to do them, though I see some covers - do more of them.
t. actual manager

>> No.43417422

>>43415794
You're thinking of Watame.

>> No.43417474

>>43410099
>most GFEfags are content with crumbs.
Fuck, is it that obvious?

>> No.43417485

Based on what I can tell from her schedule, she's going to stream in 4 hours. I guess I'll give her a try when not focusing on the Battlehawks match.

>> No.43417562

>>43410398
Not him, but I cant stand Twitch. I only watch girls who stream on YouTube. Good luck out there though.

>> No.43417566

>>43417419
Hi ENma, how's life?

>> No.43417631

>>43407742
>Yes im a woman before you comment 'kys homo'
Post bob and vagene so we can generate drama by doxxing you when you get big, it worked for /b/omu

>> No.43417698

>>43417259
True, I guess Fauna really isn't deadpan. Maybe Moona or Kaela would have been better for the point I was making? I was originally going to say Chisaka Airi, but no one outside of /pcg/ has ever watched her.

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>>43407742
Are you a sad girl? I hope you get into Phase.

>>43408918
Kawa Entertainment has their own vtuber section (although you never see anything about them here so clearly they're not interesting). It's not Kawaii, although the fact that she mentioned not wanting to do male collabs >>43409135 probably would mean kawaii would be your best bet, although PC doesn't force males on stream either, they also outright don't ban them, it's up to the streamer.

>> No.43418088

>>43417854
Kawaii hired someone like Peony. Don't see why Icelyn wouldn't at least get a 2nd interview, though yeah she needs to engage with chat/viewers a lot more during game streams.

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>>43412770
>wc3
>cnc
>fundational pillars
lmao lol KEK

There's exactly two RTS games that stood the test of time. One of them is AoE 2, the other is Brood War. Anything else is only worth a campaign playthrough. And there are very, very entertaining campaign playthroughs, sure, but these are the only games with depth that's worth tryharding multiplayer for.

>> No.43418304

>>43407742
>i fucking hate people ive never met and generalize them all as twitter rapetroons
This is one reason why you're NGMI. People with hatred in their heart cannot make it as a chuuba. It's why all those twitter troons and “based and redpilled” chuubas are 1views and why you are a 1view. The talent scouts see through your paper thin facade and realize you would not be a good talent. They don't want you, they want a watame, an okayu, a pekora, a gura. Not some washed up loser who cares about politics. We want someone who doesn’t generalize and hate groups of people, because sooner or later your power level will slip and you will be a liability to our brand and profitability. If you’re serious about wanting to be a successful businesswoman, the first thing you need to do is stop generalizing groups of people and start seeing the world in profit/loss. I would not hire anyone who openly says such broad things about any group, not white people, not black people, not straight people, nor Christian people, not Americans, not trans people, not old people, not women, or not even the mentally ill. These people are your customers AND your coworkers, and you have a duty to provide the highest quality entertainment to everyone as an idol. Some of these people are in the industry and burning bridges over personal vendettas is undesirable to any organization that wants to make money. This means not showing your fucking power level.

the biggest red flag is that you’ve posted your voice in this thread is proof that you’re an idiot who would have been a bad choice. Voices are easily identifiable and you’ve just essentially told the world who your vtuber identity is and that you lie to people about your political beliefs for clout. You’ve also told us your viewer count is and your game choice, so we can filter to see who it is easier. You have a dangerous lack understanding of opsec and technology, and would be a liability to not only yourself, but fellow genmates as well.

I’m a talent scout for _____ and you just don’t have what it takes. Sorry. The competition is fierce and you’re up against people who are way friendlier and talented than you are. I know you’ll call this gay and fake and disregard everything I’ve said, but if you want to know why you didn’t get in, this is why. You are an opsec risk, you discriminate against people, and you can’t keep your fucking mouth shut about politics.

>> No.43418328

>>43409091
>is asked for a sentence
>"ah... Yeah... Hello anon!"
Sure, your voice may be decently cute and may be a bit awkward recording audio for randos on the Internet, but I expected something with more substance, creativity and variety. Plenty of girls can be cute and shy, try and showcase what makes you specifically special.

>> No.43418401

>>43417354
SOMETHING about Ina draws people in, she's the 2nd most popular HoloEN, and the first is Gura who is an algo freak and too big to fail, so it's all on Ina's own merits. What exactly those merits in terms of entertainment are I have no clue, but they're enough for 8-10k people to tune in to her consistently.

>> No.43418407

>>43407742
Go away mel. Nobody likes you, and everyone knows its you

>> No.43418608

>>43418304
What are you quoting here? The troon post wasn't even made by her apparently.

>> No.43418632

>>43418304
Ok Pippa.

>> No.43418636

>>43418304
Op here, I have been lurking but not talking, taking the advice and trying to channel it into making change so my content can be better. I don’t know if this is a LARP or real, but where have I been anything but agreeable? I’m very confused by this, I don’t engage in politics and don’t have the time to hate people based on (insert identity thing here). Maybe I’m being dumb replying to this out of everything but I’m seriously stumped.

>> No.43418695

>>43417854
But the gas light show had males. Does it count?

>> No.43418732

>>43418636
the retard probably just took the larp post as genuine.

>> No.43418792

>>43418636
You posted on 4chan femanon
This is a stain that you will never be able to clean off.
It will stay with you. And people will notice.

>> No.43418863

>>43418259
>asking a novice player to stream sweaty MP
come on now

>> No.43418891

>>43418792
>oh no, she posted on by far the most active vtuber discussion forum there is
if corps actually cared about that then they'd have to shitcan over half their members

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>>43418328
Read the Bible chuuba!
Read the Bible for us in that voice!

>> No.43418954

>>43418732
Oh I see, thanks anon. I don’t know if this is the worst mistake I have made posting here but I genuinely appreciate you taking time out of your days to watch me, I will do my best to improve and be better, even if it’s just for my own satisfaction and to prove I can do it. Some of the stuff did leave a sour taste in my mouth as I thought I wasn’t that bad, but I can’t please everyone and ultimately if this is how people perceive me I must change and be better and improve. From the bottom of my heart thank you anons, maybe I won’t ever make it but I will never stop trying.

>> No.43418971

>>43418636
Part of being a successful online personality is learning to ignore unhinged schizos. Work on that if you don't want to end up like Pikamee or Silvervale.

>> No.43419026

>>43418891
Not saying she wont make it big because of it just look at nyanners.
But I am saying that if she at some point doesn't want to be associated with /vt/ anyome, the faggots on this board will never let her forget it.

>> No.43419061

>>43418636
If that post wasn’t you then disregard the first part and any mentions of politics, but the second point still stands. Fix it. Delete your vocaroos and never post identifiable information on 4chan again. Some bigger chuubas on /wvt/ only grew after they stopped being associated with this place (near, coqui). This place is a cesspool and being openly /here/ encourages schizos to try to upset you. A lot of the /here/ chuubas are massive crabs who will sabotage you as well. The fact that someone immediately LARPed as you saying career damaging stuff should be a big sign to stay away from this shithole.

I don’t recognize your voice, but consider Nina from girlsFC couldn’t get into holo or nijisanji. Luck plays a big part. Keep applying but also keep in mind you might end up as a large indie or a future vshojo. Don’t turn down any opportunities if they ever present themselves. Good luck on your streaming career

>> No.43419125

>>43419061
>(near, coqui)
Should be (meat, coqui)

>> No.43419139

>tfw 200 ccv but nijiEN ghosts you
Literally every other corpo I have applied to have contacted me after submitting auditions, including hololive

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>>43419061
Don't listen to this fagg.
Fulfill your destiny.
Give us our political chuuba.

>> No.43419243

>>43419061
Thank you anon, I will do better. I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to try and help me and I’m sorry if the LARP post upset you, as you seemed pretty heated. I hope you have a good rest of your day, I will remember your words.

>> No.43419282

>>43418792
Most English speaking Holo, Niji, and Phase streamers are /here/. Some, like Risu and Pippa, openly so. Others, like Mori and Kiara, never openly state it, but you can tell from their actions (eg responding to rrats/complaints that are mainly discussed here).

>>43419026
Nyanners broke from 4chan before vtubing existed, so she's not really the most relevant example.

>> No.43419349

>>43419243
What are your thoughts on >>43417419

>> No.43419363

>>43419243
>>43419282
Maybe. But ratards bringing up the pomf pomf song to her will never be unfunny to me.

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>>43418863
>tfw no 300 APM S-rank Brood War chuuba (Protoss) who flies over to Korea to compete in the ASL and also has GGG-cup tits and does mommy lactation ASMR during downtime
I dream only the most impossible dreams.

>> No.43419423

>>43419139
Sorry but if you are not friends with Elira Pandora NijiEN won't even deem you worthy of their time

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>>43417419
>using twitter
Alright. A necessary evil but-
>using tiktok
NOW THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE FUCKING LINE BOI!!!

>> No.43419479

>>43419026
There is a difference between being 4chan personality like Nyanners and coming to /vt/ for advice.
not to say getting advice from /vt/ is a good idea as such, but it's still the biggest forum for vtuber discussion and even in this thread there are plenty of earnest responses. People here may not know what they are talking about, but they like vtubers and many do want to help and encourage.
going on interact with /vt/ as a source of content would be a misstep, but I don't think anyone would hold something like this against someone long term.

>> No.43419480

>>43419349
It’s all valid criticism and I don’t want to be that person they described so I’m going to use it and remind myself of that post when I’m feeling tired or want to give up. Of course I have my own opinions on my content, sure I may not fit the high energy chubba but finding what works for me is important. I do disagree on the strategy game statement, I have many examples of me playing strategy games so I don’t know why they said that, maybe they just skimmed?

>> No.43419580

>>43419479
... Aight. Fair enough.

>> No.43419634

>>43418954
>Some of the stuff did leave a sour taste in my mouth as I thought I wasn’t that bad
You aren't that bad. People here are just especially abrasive. That's the nature of 4chan. When you come here, people will shit on you endlessly regardless of what you do. It's nothing you should take personally.
With that said, I have checked you channel on both Twitch and Youtube and think there's some room for improvements. I think you should really start thinking about streaming on both platforms instead of simply using Youtube as an archive. There are some people who only use twitch and there are others who only use Youtube. When you limit yourself to a single platform, you are seriously hampering your outreach. There is is reason why girls like Lisa stream on both websites.
Another point I would like to make is that you should seriously consider reaching out to other small indie girls for collabs. I really can't stress this enough. Even a good collab with an indie who averages just 30 CCV will boost you. I have been watching vtubers for many years, and I think that my favorite moments all happen to be collabs. It's a great way for you to build friends in this hobby and to foster growth.
I follow a few smaller indie girls who are absolutely open to collaborations and would very likely do a stream with you. I would rather not link them in this thread, but if you would like, I can certainly message you on discord with a list of vtubers who you might find success collabing with

>> No.43419694

>>43416336
Ya who is it faggot? You didn't find shit.

>> No.43419708

>>43419473
That ship already sailed anon, you should have your clips in all platforms possible

>> No.43419768

>>43419423
Following up on that, the requisites for being one of Elira's friends are, from observation:
- being a stone-cold sociopath who backstabs people for clout on the internet
- being a sexual groomer and Twitter sex pest
- being a turbo-woke sodomite who hates women and white people
- being some form of SEA or Chinese immigrant (westoid-assimilated only, actual Asian culture need not apply)
- being some form of insanely bitter incel/femcel who has a massive chip on their shoulder against the audience or their coworkers

You need at least three of those, though checking off the entire list would be better for your chances.

>> No.43419790

>>43419480
probably, just scanning down your vods it's not always immediately apparent what the game is. but I guess that's a result of being dumps from twitch so you don't get any visual clue.

>> No.43419810

>>43419634
I would like that very much. I kind of isolated myself into a corner of the internet because I was scared of all the ‘collab leeching’ accusations and also the one collab I did was awful, everyone spoke over/interrupted me and I spent the entire time muted basically- wasn’t good content and wasn’t fun for viewer or me. I do have a decent network of people I chat to I just don’t really ever ask for collabs for fear of rejection, but I gotta get over that if I wanna improve and grow. Thanks anon.

>> No.43419907

>>43407742
>woman
>applying to holoen
There's your problem.

>> No.43419956

>>43419480
>3h on AOE 2 vs 50h on LoL

>> No.43420001

>>43419363
Funny story, I heard the Nyanners version at least a year before the original version and it's still imprinted on me as the real version.

>> No.43420180

>>43407742
Go to Wactor
They are so desperate right now because the company is falling apart that you may have a chance even if you don't know spanish

>> No.43420220

>>43420180
You monster. I wouldn't wish joining Wactor on my biggest enemy.

>> No.43420227

>>43419956
I only recently started playing strategy games on stream and I haven’t streamed league in quite a while (aka that’s mainly from a year+ ago as I realised league isn’t a good streaming game for me, nor a game I enjoy streaming). Like yeah genshin is also there but I haven’t streamed that in a long long time, nor do I plan on it. I do struggle to talk a bunch because I hyper focus on the game and zone out, I can forget to eat, drink, sleep, etc if it’s really bad, which is why I’m spamming just chatting to get used to it and carry what I learn over to the game.

>> No.43420355

>>43419634
Tl;dr grow thicker skin lady.

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This isn't a general or drama thread how the fuck did you get 300-
>im a woman
Oh... carry on then.

>> No.43420716

>>43408844
you sound like phase connect's lia or ashelia

>> No.43421117

>>43407742
>>43412473
If this is you, OP, you seem like (from sullygnome) a barely 2 view after streaming for nearly 2 years? It may be time to consider more drastic changes to your content and personality if you are going to stand out to a corpo. That's just the real truth. Maybe try getting some professional covers made? You voice has potential.

>> No.43421162

>>43420227
That's understandable, but if you're serious about it you need to make it part of your branding. See Clio Aite or Kaneko Lumi.

>> No.43421435

>>43419473
TikTok isn't neccesarily bad, though I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. The worst of the worst of TikTok zoomers will just comment "Erm this is fricking cringe 100* when they see some vtuber shit, they won't go and shit up a stream chat because they don't have the patience to watch a several hour stream. On the other hand, I don't see how much can even be gained from it. I'm sure the occasional guy interested in vtubers might come across your short but idk if enough people will come from that for it to be worth the effort of keeping up with another platform. That and if you fall into doing TikTok memes and shit rather than just posting clips it can be a terrible first impression

>> No.43421439

>>43420716
I'm not hearing it, especially in the stream footage. Lia is a very specific blend of abusive and retarded that I don't think anyone else can, or even should, replicate.

>> No.43421703

>>43418088
>Kawaii hired someone like Peony
Wait, what

>> No.43421761

>>43421117 (me)
Or maybe it's just time to find a different hobby if you end-goal or only thing you work towards is a corpo spot. You can't just be "interesting enough." You HAVE to be a stand-out talent at this point in the market. Corpos can be extremely picky now that vtubing is so popular.

>> No.43421792

>>43419810
NTA, but elaborating on that, be careful of becoming known for "that one girl that onl shines in collabs".

>> No.43421987

>>43407742
Shit out a bunch of shorts on YT and hope you get favored by the algorithm. Then you have leverage.

>> No.43422159

>>43419810
I messaged you. Good luck out there.

>> No.43422276

>>43407742
Hey it could be worse. You could've been accepted by Tsun right before they collapsed.
...inb4 that's what happened

>> No.43422338

>>43422276
All of Gen 4 seem to have been identified judging by the /tsun/ general.

>> No.43422449

>>43418304
I didn't read this lmao

>> No.43422801

>>43407742
>rejected from one of the biggest agencies
yea it's a mystery, I'm sure a lot of smaller bit actors are just puzzled how they're not getting into DiCaprio level roles and whatnot.

>> No.43423050

>>43418792
Eh Gura's doing quite well for herself despite being and oldfag

>> No.43423161

>>43407742
Don't know about kawa

Apparently idol got 1000 applicants

Holo is truely a wildcard at this point there open audition have been up for so long we don't know if they are searching for en4 and for holo you are potentially looking at 10000 rivels so it's not surprising.

I don't know how long you have stremed for but keep trying that's the only thing you can do maybe try shorts they are a popularity hack and just know that just being a little interesting isn't going to cut it with holo well it is preety much a golden ticket at this point. Maybe try keeping a clear history of you want to be in a corpo

>> No.43423642

>>43422338
really? I presume nobody anyone would know, since they'd be mad to apply to that shitheap after everyone not under contract bailed last year

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