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/#/ is reclining
Damm what the hell happened with Boris? Is he addicted to number. Or did Russia shit fuck him up badly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Oc6gxJEdI
Too slow, pops
/#/ is perfectly FLAT
>>43413604I don't know man, not every holomen reads SC.
>>43413705Ritual-chama...
It's crazy how Watame still has 20k viewers watching her at almost 2am JST
>>43413394Why did NijiEN lose so many viewers?
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>63,181: Ina (Hololive)>34,557: Marine (Hololive)>31,486: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>25,112: Mito (Nijisanji)>22,709: Watame (Hololive)>20,901: Hayato (Nijisanji)>20,736: Mio (Hololive)>20,723: Pekora (Hololive)>19,789: Towa (Hololive)>18,544: Kanata (Hololive)>18,300: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>16,498: Korone (Hololive)>15,765: Met (VSPO)>15,698: Miko (Hololive)>15,100: Kanae (Nijisanji)>14,775: Koyori (Hololive)>14,202: Subaru (Hololive)>13,872: Shion (Hololive)>13,073: Sora (Hololive)>12,980: Finana (Nijisanji)>12,366: NeruMero (Indie)>12,327: Moona (Hololive)>12,145: Chloe (Hololive)>11,277: Ange (Nijisanji)>11,275: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>>43413716He got in dire straits even before the war, dropped the kayfabe and fell from the algo.Then it stopped being cool to be a slav in the internet, IIRC he reneged his slavs ways one year ago more or less and that didn't go well either
>>43413794
>>43413794>>43412703>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab 9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 202314) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi19) Ina (Hololive) - 63,181 - 3D showcase>PER COMPANY13x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora3x: Marine2x: Toya1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Ina, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY36x: Hololive13x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER18x: Pekora4x: Marine3x: Toya2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Ina, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro
>>43413787constant dramas and lack of streamsnot to mention niji homos don't have monopoly anymore with the introduction of tempus
>>43413716vtubers? I wasted about two minutes looking through this video because of you anon and I want my wasted time back.
other than ina, i honestly think they made models based on their actual height
>>43413394>>43413787>>Gavis sub 3k, Vesper sub 2.5k, Shinri on 1.5k and Flayon on 3 digitsthat's ~7k people who could have been watching nijihomos. Also >>43413862
>>43413862The biggest reason was the chinese audience vanishing.
>>43413866he's the next holostarsEN
This mentality...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgFR_Z4Ldk
>>43413902
Let's say Youtube did the unthinkable and revamped their UI in a way that made streams more visible on the site and easier to browse, leading to more "neutral" users being exposed to vtubers. Would this be a good or a bad thing?
>>43413913where? did they get luxiem at home?
>>43413862I feel Tempus swayed some of the Niji-only fans that's why all niji comebacks have been lukewarm numberwise
>>43413904>Cocobtw, good thing Gura is small
>>43413676NEWS ANCHORReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from last thread:>Asu&Aru OMLive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ye3wGa9VR0
>>43413907>that's ~7k peopleAnon, they didn't overlap their peaks, where are you getting 7k from?It is getting increasingly clear that their individual day to day audience is sub 4k even for the stronger ones (Gavis, Magni) and their combined audience around 8k in eventful streams
>>43413922>EN>that russki accentno way
>>43413940
>>43413950nowhere, they just left
>>43413904Kiara is shorter than her model but the others are almost right
>>43413913>>43413957it's not crazy to think that tempus stole some of their audience
>>43413957Tempus has saturated the NA timeslots so it was fairly predictable.
>>43413948UI asideYou late a fucking 2 years anon, thats literally how gura booming in the west
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-DVaH8hOTQOh Uproar did home3D stream too
>>43413974That's not true tho. Didn't they get 20k on a collab, I forgot which.
>>43413950>where?kek, someone posted a very scuffed Vox lookalike model that resembles what Vox would be if he went to prison and started a hunger strike.Most likely the avenues for them to skirt the firewall and spend money outside it were cut among the measures the chinese government imposed on entertainment last year, and also b2 falling out of love with nijis might have cut their institutional exposure there.
>>43413716>>43413922are people just shilling their favorite flesh streamer youtubers here with pretext of "they will apply for HoloPro soon, bro"?
>>43413787>Luca 7kI have no idea how anybody watches that fag after all the shit he has pulled. Sisters have no standards.
>>43413913that KFC collab better be fake then
>>43414064It was.
>>43414049That's the idea
>>43414041Here it is
>>43413957niji homos are no longer what they used to be so it's inevitable that some of the viewers would check/switch to other groups
>>43414041>b2 falling out of love with nijishuh, when did that happened?don't they have virtuareal there?
>>43414108Anon, Virtuareal is kill...
>>43414049not me, i was just joking
>>43414049yes, I'm still waiting for my kamioshi Tom Scott to debut
>>43413787Niji's biggest hitters are toxic, unfortunately.
>>43414108they sold their anycolor stock while it was worth something
>>43413716JOIN HOLOSTARS BORISYOU KNOW YOU WANT TO
Why is DJT a hololive thread now
Ina is the first EN gold this year right?
https://youtu.be/rSxWa1IInywSome interesting things in here>Dude has a friend who worked for a game studio that have collabed with Cover, he said that they are pretty good to work with and are more than happy to work again with them in the future>Nijisanji pays an average of 4.5M, Cover 5.1M for their staff per year.>Cover needed 4x the amount of staff per talent compared to anycolor to support their activities and other businesses>Cover's profit margin will be significantly lower compared to Anycolor as long HoloEarth is still on development (2024 planned for release)>Pointed out Cover is doing an IPO for Studio development and merchs supply chain development>Cover's shareholders will be locked from selling for 180 days (expect a similar price dive as ANYCOLOR's)>Felt that Cover didn't need to do an IPO for their goals based on their current financials>Cover listing 5x more shares (in percentage) than Anycolor means more secondary market buyer can have the chance to own, -> less market manipulation>Initial survey among early investors predicts the price will close at 2130 yen at IPO/first day. 3x from Cover's initial IPO price>Conclusion: as long as HoloEarth isn't a complete disaster, it will have better market gains than anycolor considering there are a lot of things that can be easily/reliably made more efficient in Cover's operations such as supply chains and cost per talents.
>>43414012>Tempus has saturated the NA timeslotsNo they didn't?Here are their streams from yesterday (in red) vs Nijien (in green).https://vrabi.net/labo/progress/2023-02-19They're absolute midgets even in comparison with NIjiEN
>>43414130NTA, but really? What happened to all the invilved chuubas?
Just got back from a trip, aren't the numbers kinda grim? Ina's 3d, King's apex with hikakin, arine's karaoke, and pekomiko's hl.
>>43413794Mito in the Guraplacement?
>>43414093kek, WHO TOOK VOX TO AUSWITZ!?
>>43414218no
>>43414023none of them bugged, is it because their 3d models are recently made?
GRIM
>>43414108Where have you been, anon? B2 definitely knows something we don't otherwise why would they sell all of their shares.
>>43414190Those manufactured streaming hours.... Tempusbros its over
>>43414182>Dude has a friend who worked for a game studkek, is this an elaborate version of "my Dad works at Nintendo"?
>>43414139Imagine gordon fucking ramsay in tempus?
>>43413980
>>43414190Don't bother replying numberbro. He's samefagging and baiting for a reply. He does this everyday, you'll get called a nijinigger no matter what you say kek
>>43414259Pretty much
>>43414199Mostly inactive iircthey got paid shit by b2 after allnot the mention the giga yabs that I seems to forgot
>>43414190and now imagine the numbers nijiEN would be making if Tempus didn't exist
>>43414218Not really, all par for the course for February. For some reason every year February and March are a downward slump for both JP branches.In Holo's case I assume they reduce their high effort high performance activities because of HoloFes.
>>43414269
>>43414182>2.4k views>76 likesis this you anon?
>>43414290Imagine the numbers holoEN would be making if tempiss didn't exist
>>43414053Sunk cost
>>43413716Oh it's my nigga Boris glad to see him alive, btw where's Anatoli
WHERE THE FUCK IS LAP+?
The chat stats for Mori’s JP only stream
>>43414306anon if I could read japanese well enough to digest a financial report do you think I'd waste my time shitposting on this indonesian rice milling forum?
>>43414297
>>43414310Imagine the numbers holoEN would be making if there were enough members to stream while they were doing reps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxhjvk8Anp4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxhjvk8Anp4IRyS????????????????
>>43414326waiting for holox release in holocure
>>43414310You're saying Tempus took HoloEN audience?
To this day I still laugh at the big drama of NYOO LET MY PEOPLE COLLAB between NijiEN/HoloEN fans only for it to turn out that most of them don't want to collab with each other at all. Not even homos.
>>43414326my bed
>>43414093>we have vox at home
>>4341433535p and nousagis are the biggest JP fanbases, not surprising they'd be highest
>>43414255never really paid attention to nijinews, especially the chink one
>>43414049DemoD can be saved
>>43414341
>>43414335>first army and koyothat makes sense I guess
>>43414190Wasn't this because of an outfit unveiling so some people went there while waiting for Ina's 3D?
>>43413957Chinese fujos abandoned Luxiem for homegrown manwhores.
>>43414358>tookRepelled, more like.
>>43414352Jesus how many years has this woman been playing RE7 for
>>43414347Exactly. What could have been.
>>43414338actually yes, if you were desperate youtuber I would believe you would try to shill yourself here
>>43414335so she's basically tapping into the holobox audience
>>43414387
>>43414287>they got paid shit by b2If by shit you mean>Nothing at allSeriously, Anycolor and B2 is a match made in heaven, black companies both of them
>>43414294While it is true that holo reduces high performance activities for hoofes, the streams today just get lower numbers than their counterparts at other time. A 30k marine karaoke is weird, not to mention peko barely scrapping 20k while miko is 15k
>>43414426so you're saying that I'm well verse enough in japanese to make an entire video in japanese and shill it on this english speaking board, but not skilled enough in english to do subtitles for it?
>>43414438
>>43414182Cover does spend too much money on the talents. I assume that he is referring to all the managers they have and not their actual earnings. No way in hell Cover could get away with drastically slashing the talents' earnings.
>>43414418Talking about repelling, how many of the holos got record low floor yesterday during that tournament?
>>43414182How much is the initial IPO price?It's literally a money printer until the 6 month unlock
>>43414421I would not be surprised if Watame finished the game before her.
>>43414408I also some of them shilling Tempus which is quite funny
>>43414259It's a pretty dry look at financials for what is supposed to be an outrageous made up story according to you. If he wanted to lie wouldn't he make it more outlandish?
>overlapping
>>43414478The initial price is 710 yen
>>43414418This is such a lame cope.The gradual decline of HoloEN is due to themselves.You're saying Tempus repelled KFP or Takodachis?
>>43414471
>>43413716Why are euros like this?
>>43414487anon that's not an overlap that's a funnel, something we've been asking EN to do for almost 2 years now
>>43414469Well you are posting on /#/ so it's given that you are retarded, so yes.
>>43414421Isn't RE7 like a six hour long game?
>>43414528well screw you too anon
>>43414487incoming 5k fauna stream lol
>>43414507Go back homofag
>>43414517
>>43414358There's more commonality between Tempus and Niji's fans I believe
>>43414497Damn I ought to be buying.
>>43414352Yup. RIP winning streak unless one of myth streams
>>43414259in Japan is not that hard, like saying a 2view vtuber has a friend who is the top vtuber singer
>>43414352I'm just happy that this is probably her last RE7 stream. I don't care what the reviews are; that game is overrated and only got its praise because of how disappointing RE5, RE6 and the shitty spin-offs were.
Guess whose stream this is.This is easy mode.
>>43414507They need to be gotten rid of, they're numbers poisonYour cope is delicious
>>43414563What do the chat overlap numbers say on recent streams?
>>43414562
>>43414598Kari-chan kawaii
>>43414476Dunno, but oboretai seems to have gotten something new to clip
>>43414559You don't belong here newfag, go back to >>>/hlgg/
>>43414403>Wasn't this because of an outfit unveiling so some people went there while waiting for Ina's 3D?Here is the day before.Pick a day, any day and it'll be the same.
>>43414036No, absolutely never did homos clear 20k by themselves, collab or not. Maybe literally on debut day for Tempiss1
>>43414507yes, they did potentionally irreparable damage to the community and aided in the downfall of certain members viewership. not even considering the loss of no en3
>>43414389>Kanata
>>43414598I mean...
>>43414598
>>43414598>[En] [Tl] Calli
>>43414603Niji homos and Tempus share a lot of viewers
>>43414598kari-chan kakkoii
>>43413969Does this count as /news/? Suisei came back from her break. https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1627287944699740162?s=20
Now that some of the financials are out in the open it seems like being a holo is very lucrative. Will this inspire more talented people to try and join hololive? We know that only about 5k people apply to be in hololive.
>>43413957Chinese fujos leaving NijiEN and people are getting sick and tired of them always having drama. The initial reason people got into vtubers in the west was because it was an escape from that shit.
>>43414598>かわいい>カリちゃんWhat are they smoking in Japan
>>43414524That's not a fucking funnel because people are not going to leave streams just because another one started unless they're a fan of the other person. They have to END for there to be a funnel, this isn't JP
>>43414657Post the numbers fag
>>43414648i didn't see her
>>43414626Why do you keep lying to yourself, sister?Regis already had like a 10k solo karaoke stream
>>43414634>not even considering the loss of no en3>loss of no en3Go back flip-chama.
>>43414605
>>43414563>livers>waveYou don't say? Their fanbase is practically glowing with the usual nijiterms
>>43414497How many shares are they releasing to the market?
>>43414680anon this is exactly the same thing holoJP has been doing, specifically gen3 and everyone praised it back when they did it, now shut the fuck up about overlap you dunce
>>43414487>6am streamOdds of Ame sleeping through it?
>>43414668Dunno, not mindreader.Who do you fags is best as managing their money? I think Mio, Flare and Noel.
>>43413787Bots and view farms became sentient and refused to watch nijitrash anymore
It can be argued that Tempus hurt HoloEN's numbers.But were they also able to hurt NijiEN's mindchair?
>>43414715Who are you quoting anon?
>>43414713
>>43414734Extremely high my oshi is a fucking retard
>>43414734She jwu a few hours ago
>>43414737think is best*
>>43414751No
>>43414751>Offkai has more furnitures this yearThere's no way, NijiEN mindchairs is the best
>>43414751>It can be argued that Tempus hurt HoloEN's numbersThe graphs don't show that though?
>>43414753
>>43414712?
>>43414457>not to mention peko barely scrapping 20k while miko is 15kBoth with Hogwarts, a game with a massive drop in audience after the sorting hat.In that same day Sora beat 13k, Towa almost 20k and Mio over 20k all with Holocure, Kanata 18k and Watame 22k with Minecraft.This is the period of the year where the ceiling for the heavy hitters drop due to choice of content, but for the mid and low level their numbers can rise if they're smart in their picks
We're still a blue board right?
>>43414794
>>43414622
>>43414825Sadly yes
>>43414825meidos are asleep
>>43414715which strongly supports the conjecture that fans of some niji homos left them for tempus
>>43414668If anything Lapu's failure has likely made the auditions harder for all future applicants. Cover doesn't want Hololive to be a revolving door for people looking to boost their income and eceleb status.
>>43414836Sir this is a blue board
>>43414668>only about 5k people apply to be in hololive.Are you even listening to yourself? 5k people applying for 10 open positions a year AT BEST is a massive number
>>43414832
>>43414840the day the holo I don't think is sexy wins gold...
>>43414622Wasn't that the return stream? Hardly your normal day-to-day NijiEN streams
HAHAHAHAHHA THE HOLOEN STREAK DIES TODAY
>>43414857Did Yagoo told you that in your dream anon?
>>43414845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HESjR-2TuEc
>>43414836KEK
>>43414865
>>43414711This is quite pathetic shitposting anon. Tempus has to pull herculean efforts to get 10k nowadays and they've never been able to get 20k, that's debut tier numbers.
can irys stick to a motherfucking timeslot
>>43414668why would you think a prospective holo recruit will have seen the discussion in this thread?
>>43414768How much sleep did get though she has a tendency to wake up after not enough sleep then napping like an hour before a stream
Oh god the Tempiss shill is here again. No matter how hard you spam this crap every single fucking piece of data suggests that Tempiss had nothing to do with NijiEN's recline and that they were a massive failure that brought HoloEN to its lowest point.NijiEN started reclining around October/November and have been on a nonstop fall ever since, Tempiss also had their absolute peak during their debut months and then kept bleeding nonstop afterwards. A new gen debuting did absolutely fucking nothing to expand their box which at this point might be 4-5k people if we're being generous. How the fuck did they manage to steal any viewers if they are reclining you mongoloid?
>>43414879Your faggotry disgusts me
>>43414668>it seems like being a holo is very lucrativeIs this supposed to be some new revelation?
>>43414884Clue me in anon, who's going to end it?
>>43414577Does NijiEN have some special stream today?Because Fauna Hitman got 8.6k last week and without buff content, I'm not sure if any NijiEN chuuba can get above 7-8k reliably.
>>43414912
>>43414836kek!There is this thing in psychology where you are shown a picture. I forgot what it is called.
>>43414845Who do you think from Niji En got affected the most?
There is no evidence of movement from nijiCN to Tempiss.
>>43414936>ina with titsyou're more disgusting
>>43414864There are 20k vtubersAt least half of those are femalesAt least half of those females applied to Hololive. That number may grow.
>>43414936Aye maybe but im not into artists and lewds require putting the talents personality in
>>43414958
who are left on 3d?
>>43415000>titsThose are takos anon, Ina stuffed them in her bra.
>>43414955Fauna wasn't overlapped by Ame and then IRyS after, she'll be lucky to get 6k this week
>>43414945Doppio Karaoke or Scarle birthday stream
>>43414751No, they were not. I mean by this logic NijiEN literally reaped a fuckton more holofags than Tempus ever did nijiEN fags.Please stop trying to make "w-we totally destroyed the nijiniggers by having low tier NijiEN viewership ourselves" happen sisters, it won't make the holofags stop seeing your branch as a blight that destroyed HoloEN.You think you're arguing with nijiniggers when you get pushback on this. You're not. You're arguing with holofags who will not let you lie to justify the deathblow that is tempiss/tempoop to HoloEN behind "w-we magging NijiEN! see, we're allies!"
>>43414974Maybe because you're reading the graph wrong? That graph shows trends, not fan overlaps. Retard.
>>43414881Every day NijiEN finds something. They are always "returning", always celebrating, always having unarchived karaokes.There won't be a single day where people won't be able to say "they're having just normal streams", that's their thing, they make things up to pretend the stream is special.
>>43415047Who the fuck cares about Scarle besides her paypigs
>>434150477k and 8k give or take.Scarle would be swimming in SC tho
>>43415061If Tempiss was "stealing fans" their numbers would be going up. It's not.
>>43414967vox definitely lost some of his fans to tempus.he tried some brotuber content before he went on a vacation because of the doxx
>>43415003>At least half of those are femalesI know you said "at least" to play it safe, but I'm pretty sure females are probably around the 75-80%
>>43415090i really don't know why she got gachis
>>43415108Tempus could've lost some of their tourist and also gained some NijiEN viewership anon, have you ever thought about that?
>>43414934>Early tempus was literally their peak>this was months ago>since then NijiEN and HomoEN have reclined, but nijiEN more heavily (they had a lot more to fall)where are these stolen NijiEN viewers anyway. why can't they prop homoEN to noctyx tier at least? don't see HomoEN casually getting 5-6k solos like Uki could
>>43415043Ame and IRyS are both streaming debuff content. It won’t affect Fauna that much.
>>43414974this is a moving mean graphwhat's your point?
>>43415071I mean funny because the recent homo performances of a whopping 4k were Magni/Bettle spamming 4 person + collabs on their POV.
>>43415152The same reason any NijiEN female got theirs, they're the boys accessories
>>43415047they not gonna make it if tempus overlaps them
Why the fuck is amelia playing part 3 of a game in a different timeslot than part 2? Part 1 and 2 being different was fine because timezone changes but holy fuck what is this shit
>>43415178And this will be her 5th time playing Hitman terribly. It's not some buff content
>>43415170Post the numbers or shut the fuck up.
>>43415170>uh akshually all of Tempus's original audience reclined into the ground and was replaced by NijiENAre you trying to argue in good faith at least?
I am just asking if Tempus was able to hurt NijiEN's mindchair, not that they stole NijiEN's fanbase. Those are different. Only Shoto is capable of stealing the sisters.
>>43415234Anon Amelia could not give less of a shit about timezones and accommodating her fans
>>43414671They find Ryme from Pokemon kakkoi
>>43415234She is in Taiwan>>43415251The number is right there retard, your conjecture is dumb because you refused to consider the possibility of any NijiEN fanbase moving to another chuubas including Tempus.
>>43414668>Only 5k people applySource?And any aspiring vtubers who havnt tried for hololive is unironically retarded
>>43415203Oh, was that the day when Mysterio also played the same game LoL and got much less?
>>43415269>Some>AllAren't you the one doing the bad faith here?
>>43415299>I am just asking if Tempus was able to hurt NijiEN's mindchair, not that they stole NijiEN's fanbaseThe answer is "yes" because you haven't quantified how much damage it did. I mean every new corp does some mindchair damage to HoloEN for example. Even Vshojo/NijiEN/Phase blah blah stole *some* fans from them. Did they still enough? That we don't know.This is literally an impossible question to answer.
>>43414671nijiseethe
>>43414593She'll play the dlc
>>43415269nta but that's certainly a possibility.>all of Tempus's original audience reclined into the groundi think you're the one who's being disingenuous here when tempus has consistently mogged nijien last week
>>43415269For every niji fan Tempus steals 3 Tempus fans leave. It's just that simple, anon.
>>43414182so this is the power of hololive
>>43415321>>43415400You can track the nijiEN/Tempiss chat overlap for example with vrabi over the past 6 months. You'd see at least some evidence of your assertion.
>>43415411and we have to put up with a sister in our fanbase
>>43414668Getting into hololive is literally making it. I bet most of the niji girls are trying to apply to hololive, hence the stipulation about not being affiliated to another company when applying
>>43415340funny how these homos are struggling to keep up with bettel, a guy with a tenth of their subs
>>43415366No, that's still you and your agenda to claim things you can't back up with numbers so daddy holochad loves you and stops beating you with a belt for ruining their household.>>43415340Was that a single POV? Anyway I don't see how NijiEN doing dogshit on some day means anything about 4k being a collab for Tempus. Are we just pretending NijiEN top tiers don't have a much higher ceiling/median/average now? Tempus does btfo iflop/xsoleil but you insist instead on cherry picking when you beat the big dogs with a single big stream.
>>43414895Those screams are terrifying
>>43415463>hence the stipulationThat's not exclusive to HoloPro anon.
>>43415501They just added it this time, meaning they were probably bombarded with applicants belonging to different corpos trying to win the vtuber lotto
JWU and saw the Ame fallout stream. How the fuck is she streaming earlier while in Japan than she did while in NA? I swear her sleep schedule makes no sense. So she's waking up earlier in Japan to stream earlier now? I guess they probably have a lot of stuff planned for the actual day.
>>43415476>AgendaYou talk like a discord sister, faggot.
I will celebrate the day when nijiEN and Tempus are both no longer a thing. The two worse group of streamers and the two worse fanbases /here/
>>43415143There are a ton on 0view male indies. Also would don't know how many of the males ever apply to be Stars. I don't know if 90% of female vtubers who don't mind dancing apply to hololive but I think they will know.
Speaking of Tempus, here is their>30 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGEchart.They just beat their all time low mark yesterday, with a 1597 average. Their first time below 1.6k too.With Magni and Gavis holding their heads above water around the 3k mark the trend is likely to continue in the downward slope because it's not feasible to hold the branch numbers up with only two people swimming up
>>43415340Did he stream on CN primetime? lol
>>43413859>Hololive managed to triple Nijisanji last month>Projections show that they will only manage to double them this monthReclining...
>>43415400>i think you're the one who's being disingenuous here when tempus has consistently mogged nijien last weekThey really haven't. You just keep repeating this because you saw some cherry picked screenshots. Anons keep showing you medians and averages and you go LALALAL DOESN'T COUNT.This is exactly the sort of shit nijiniggers pull on holofags to pretend NijiEN>HoloEN so who knows maybe indeed, you are a stolen NijiEN fan for tempiss.
>>43415587This is despite all the raids to spike their peaks right?
>>43415556Kys /mans/troon, don't try to call others a cause supporter to deflectAgenda is what discord troons like you have
>>43415616Anon, the median for the month of Feb shows Tempus beating NijiEN tho.Anyone has that chart?
>>43415587
>>43415587>steal nijiEN fans>they watch for 10 minutes>remember they're not watching hololive and leaveoh no
>>43415551The stipulation is that if you are affiliated with other agency, chuuba or otherwise, and you got accepted into Holo, then you have to pick one and if you're terminating your other gig Cover couldn't be hold liable to that i.e allegation of poaching.
>>43414974Is there any explanation for the HoloEN dip in February? I thought they were inclining or staying steady since their lull in December.Maybe Ina's 3D showcase will push it back up a bit.
>>43415587Truly remarkable
>>43414182Accompanying blog post: https://note.com/asahikokura0805/n/n72b371a9182cAnother interesting tidbit here is that it claims that Cover has spent ¥670m ($5m) on HoloEarth so farAssuming it's on track for 2024 release (likely a beta) and they continue ramping up, I can see this costing a total of $15m or so, and incurring further costs as a live serviceIt's not quite AAA game dev costs, but still pretty substantial
>>43415639Both the median and the average charts are in the same picture.When the median and the average are tracking this close it means their peaks are not too inflated in relation to their average numbers.Compare with the difference in September and October, when they were getting some disproportionately high stream peaks for their averages (a mix of raids and high profile collabs).That's why using a 30 days rolling is interesting, it smooths out even the day to day cosmetic raids.
>>43415587Kronii Mori Ame anyone.... TASUKETE
>>43415337NTA but the source should be Subaru who said that for gen 5 the ratio was 1:1200. I forgot which stream but it should be one of those stream where she talked about the audition process.
>>43415669>Oh noo, what a sinister "agenda".Christ, the fucking state of this board after the doxxsite's closing.
>>43415616>>43415672 (me)You're confusing that 30 day moving average as their median/mean for the month.Stop being a nijinigger for once please since this is a numbers thread afterall
>>43415017
>>43415639Yes
>>43415672And this chart shows them declining more and more >>43415587Again nigger how are you absorbing NijiEN fans if you're reaching all time fucking lows? Are you retarded? You've degenerated into arguing Tempiss' fanbase is leaving and being replaced with NijiEN immigrants who can't even hold their own previous viewership line. Not only is that stupid, but it's a bad thing for Tempiss if it were true, nijinigger audience replacing theirs at a lower rate than old audience is leaving means you now have more fickle nijiniggers than old fans. Is that your belief?
>>43415767>1:1200It's probably up to 1:1500 by now. Gen 5 was selected right before the boom went mega.
>>43415672Honestly, these weeks so far, most streams are from iMoon and xSun, and we know they are the runts of their branch. T3MPUS beating NijiEN won't be a surprise then. Even the reclining Losiem can easily mog most of the T3MPUS streams.
https://twitter.com/anyamelfissa/status/1627358438429978624?t=yIkt-_FAXOnP8QLz51UxrQ&s=19Have any Anya info been doxx before?or Kiara will be the one doxxing it[ネタバレ]it Kiara The Big Mouth after all
>>43415806The nijinigger replacement theory...
>>43415337>And any aspiring vtubers who havnt tried for hololive is unironically retardedNot everyone wants to sing, dance and carry themselves like an idol.
>>43415728the 'incline' of January was the lowest number girls not streaming that much and a bunch of off collab span, this is just a return to the usual
>>43415771Is this the lowest nijiENs been since post ethyria - pre luxiem ?
>>43415587It's funny but it's also fucking gross.I want to be proud of Hololive numbers.Why is Cover retarded?
>>43415773
>>43415843Nui....
>>43415771so niji en and tempus have practically the same numbers but it doesn't change that nijis got bested in the median metric
>>43415757that's insane amount when comparing to what we have seen of it so far. Cover seems to have very high expectations of HoloEarth if they are ever looking to make profit of it,
>>43415587Damn those stolen fans sure are putting up the work!N-No... they totally aren't just a group of shitters that shouldn't have been made and delay HoloEN generations while causing unnecesary drama.
>>43415587BY POPULAR DEMANDNo wonder shota is leeching in Ina's chat, dude can barely break 500 viewers at this point let alone into 4view status.
>>43415864
>>43415863The future NijiJP graduate
>>43415587The absolute state.
>>43415768Alright troon if you're just gonna insist I'm a nijinigger than you can stop replying.Hope tempiss and your entire nijibranch go offpako and blow up together. The gory way, not the "blow up in popularity" kind.
>>43415831This is the most retarded way i have ever seen someone fuck up a spoiler tag
>>43415916
>>43415831try learning English before posting here anon
>>43415587Niji EN is actually losing to Tempus >>43415771Also moving average is good for checking trends.
Despite playing a little too much genshin, I think Ema is my favourite VSPO. Her numbers have been really good so far this month too, subs and CCV.
>>43415930Why are you still replying to me fag? Go ask your daddy Vox to punish you with his 8 inch dick, I'm not interested in your crabby pussy
>>43415952
>>43415757>Another interesting tidbit here is that it claims that Cover has spent ¥670m ($5m) on HoloEarth so far>Assuming it's on track for 2024 release (likely a beta) and they continue ramping up, I can see this costing a total of $15mYou are extrapolating what he says by much.>「ホロアース」は2024年度にリリース予定ということで、あと2年くらいは5億~7億円くらいの開発費用が掛かることになりそうです。Roughly>Holoearth, due to be released in 2024, meaning it might cost 500M to 700M yen to develop for another two years or soHe's expecting it to match the current expenditure for another year, not triple.
>>43415724>Not currently affiliated with an entertainment agency, label, or other similar agency; or, if currently affiliated with such agency, should be able to end or terminate their contract at their own risk once they pass the audition.They are looking for those who are not affiliated to any corpo.If for some reason they picked a candidate affiliated to a corpo, covver won't be liable for the damages that person incurs for breaching the contract. So effectively, they won't be hiring anyone whose contract has not expired because they won't be paying the buyout clause
>>43415871Just the concert portion will make it recoup its costs at some point.
>>43415980>bus pop!kek
>>43415895all the stars will show up in the 3D streams to leech mark my words
>>43415757kek
>>43415831Is Anya even more cunny than Kobo?
there are a lot of words
>>43415843Well, to be fair they don't even need to do it. Everybody does it because it's what they and their fans want but the only obligatory event is Holofes in which they can just sing one song and move a bit like Ina last year, dancing isn't even required
>>43415871If they can run concerts with monetization off it rather than things like VARK you have your answer.
>>43415757I really, really fear Cover killing itself with HoloEarth.
>>43416015>recoupthe question is that was it spent correctly. Hololive could make a ton of profit of any concert, does HoloEarth really generate that much profit to justify the development cost compared to spending the same amount elsewhere?
>Ina got a gold before Gura
>>43415771How come Niji En lost to Tempus and Holo ID here?
>>43416004This makes more senseAnd the good thing about holoEarth is that cover doesn't need to spend a dime in marketing, which lowers the costs substantially compared to other game devs
>all that budget and production value for the holoX hologras>this is what Ina gesthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1N_MbbkBiUMan...
>>43416010The key point here is>Once they pass auditionIt's literally there to protect Cover, if any contract breaching accident should occur there's no reason why Cover would reject the accepted applicant.Saying that stipulation means Cover won't be hiring anyone with "live" contract is stupid to say the least because>It cost Cover nothing because they have to pay any penalty on their own>Any monetary penalty is arguably chump change compared to the lucrative Cover contract
>>43416145Most took a break and the ones remained are mostly shitters.
>>43416145Chinese fans only count for 3/5 of a viewer, they truly are the black people of Asia
>>43416131Atm no. But if the reaction here with JOPs is any guess, the live performances if paywalled will be a good money maker in the future. They should still scrape whatever mmorpg bullshit they have planned for it though.
>>43416049She's ex office lady like Marine
>>43416131>the question is that was it spent correctlyIt was. Not only all the current fans will play the game, other clipwatchers would try it as well and maybe get current non holo fans into hololive.
i'm genuinely considering buying Cover stock, but i'm terrified of the general japanese economic situationi can lose ~5k without too much consequence or regret, but i wonder if putting serious money into something i consider just an hobby would ruin my enjoyment of it
Okay, numbersages, how would you attract more women into watching livestream content? This is a problem for everyone in the industry, be it facecammers, vtubers, esports, niche categories etc. Streamwatching simply isn't a female activity, the male to female ratio of viewers is extremely uneven and female viewers are an insignificant demographic in absolute terms.
>>43416145people here actually misusing the moving average graph as anything but an indicator to trend directioni don't watch tempus but it's quite clear that they have beaten niji en countless of times this month and this chart clearly shows it
I cant believe EN3 in June 2023 anon ended up being right... Was he a real cover spy
>>43416313Why would we want more women watching streams?
>>43415757>It's not quite AAA game dev costsIt's tiny compared to real AAA. The new Saint's Row cost 100 million for comparison and that was a mid tier release. Blows my mind when I remember Kojima got "fired" for supposedly spending 80 million on mgs5.
>>43416262The "mmorpg" part is just side project anon, it's literally an asset flip, survival-crafting game that plagues Steam.it cost literally next to nothing.
>>43416292Don't worry about it, you can't buy it
>>43416145Cause half of them fucked off in one of their worst possible months ever, and they also reclined into the ground with yab after yab.Still pathetic to lose to Tempus but "stolen" they weren't since then their numbers would have boosted Tempus even higher.
>>43416292I you like the company, don't use it to make money because your emotions, not rationality, will influence your decision-making, or something like that. I read that somewhere.
>>43416313What benefit is there to gain from more women watching streams?
OK # I need your expertize for this matter, we keep talking about this and that about HoloEarth but the most important question>what is HoloEarth?>who can use it?>how will it generate money for Cover?>potential market for it?>how their progress so far?I probably will invest or not..
>>43416145nijiEN talents who get good numbers are on break. Imagine if Magni and the new homo went on break for a few weeks. Tempiss numbers would crater.
>>43416373why not?
>>43414182>Conclusion: as long as HoloEarth isn't a complete disaster, it will have better market gains than anycolorand it will. look at how slow the development goes and in the last stream you can see they're still using premade asset from unity store
>>43416288I'm not going to spend any money in watching concerts in HoloEarth, Do you really believe hundreds of thousands of people are going to spend money in it to watch Holo content? Yagoo certainly seems to think so.
My cute daughter
>>43416292If you're a burger or eurofag, this is literally your best chance while yen is down in the dump.If you're scared by a little economic downturn then you shouldn't buy "hot" stocks in the first place and stick to ol' reliables.
>>43416221>Any monetary penalty is arguably chump changeMaybe for a top niji talent and those don't really have a reason to change companies. The bottom of the barrel nijis? Good luck with that
>>43416460we love your cute daughter here
>>43416453Do nijinigs really?
>>43416452Dirty gaijins can't invest in the Japan stock market
>>43416313We don't. As NijiCN proved, female viewers are fickle, trend-hopping retards who are rabid, cause unnecessary drama, and will turn against you and abandon you the moment you stop being "the new thing". They are a blight on the industry and you can never expect to make anything more than immediate short-term gains from them.
>>43416458>I'm not going to spend any moneyWell, you are a poorfag >Do you really believe hundreds of thousands of people are going to spend money in it to watch Holo content? Yagoo certainly seems to think so.Is Holofes free?
>>43416292There's a 180 day ban and the fact that there are more shares available means it's much more impervious to sudden fluctuations. Also the latest valuation indicates that it would cost 3x more compared to Cover's initial IPO estimates.
>>43416438Imagine if Pomu Selen and Enna all took the first 3 weeks of feb off like everyone else. The numbers would be even more grim
>>43416458Maybe not hundreds of thousands, but thousands, tens of thousands will pay to see their oshi.
>>43416467Compared to what they would earn from being a Hololive chuuba I mean anon, so it's be better to just eat the penalty.There's no way those penalty would be bankrupt-inducing in the first place unless you're signed to major labels or something
>>43416262The whole point is that Cover is trying to build a Hololive ecosystem so fans are always doing something Hololive related. No streams from your oshi? Play the game! Oh look, your oshi is posting on the holoplus app!
>>43416521Holofes has nothing to do with HoloEarth, that is one alternative thing they could spend money instead. You think all those people are going to install HoloEarth on their computer and spend money on it?
>>43416001
What are you even supposed to DO in Holoearth?
>>43416004Hmm, it's the "2 year" part that's confusing to me - I was interpreting that to mean its development time so far has been about 2 yearsBecause I find 2 years going from scratch to (beta) release for something of holoEarth's scope as, well, unrealisticAnd given what I know about game dev, and how costs massively ramp up prior to release, much of which is for marketing, I extrapolated that $15mBut if they really are planning to release after just 2 years of development even as a beta...call me skeptical
>>43416607The people paying for holofes? Yes. All of them? NoAlot of them? Yes
I haven't been reading posts, I'm rewatching Pekora's 3D live.Nijiseethe?
>>43416458I take it you're not the live concert type of person then?If the ticket price is comparable to sololive/ in-person concert, I think I would rather just attend the VR one.
>>43416351If they weren't being going public sure they can waste money on another EN wave instead of a JP one. But any investor with functioning braincells knows that JP is the money maker and the EN market went bust late 2021. Any resources made for EN3 will just used for JP7.
>>43416607>You think all those people are going to install HoloEarth on their computer and spend money on it?I think the japs are, you understimate their consoomership.I don't know about EOPs though and as we've seen from their financial reports, they're not a market Yagoo would ever want to ignore.
>>43416559Where would you get the money in the first place? If you are a Reine, good. If you are a Risu, good luck looking for anyone who will lend you money.And we are not talking about the controversy that will certainly occur.
>>43416654>wave
>>43416628spend money to make Cover recoup their development costs.
>>43416632 (me)and I also realize know that they actually don't really need much of a marketing budget, given the holos themselves
Mori will have Kson as a guest for her live.
>>43416654>waveWhy are you people like this
>>43416607Yes.I'd be able to save money from flights and accommodation.
I just wanna visit an overpriced overcrowded HoloLand resort park and stand in lines for 10 hours for a 3 minute rides.
>>43416511i'm sure there are ways and intermediaries you can go through
>>43416614
>>43416292Don't invest in things you enjoy. You can't make objective decisions about the value of your investment, plus if it goes down and you lose money you will end up liking the thing lessIf you're a casual retail investor literally just open a vanguard account
>>43413902is this AI made?
>>43416722Well, there are ways to avoid the ban, but they are not completely reliable, get huge comissions and most of them only allow you to buy the most important stocks, Anycolor and Cover are out of the equation
wasn't HoloEarth some Genshin clone with building. open world and stuff? What does it have to do with concerts?
>>43416750no way
>>43416727
>>43416313women don't have hobbies, this was proven long ago since the start of the era of watching sports
>>43416750No, just bad proportions
>>43416750scuffed but not AI scuffed
>>43416768The video game part is basically just there to kill time in between using it for its actual purpose, hosting concertsThey already did one with AZKi and Mori to test it
>>43416792
>>43416768not really
>>43416568if they really wanted they they should've gone for a bandori styled gacha game instead of this
>>43416691Marketing is a huge part of the budget and they save a lot of money due to already having an established fanbase. Generally around 30-50% of the cost of a major game is just marketing.
>>43416750Honkivampy i think was the artist. Hes..... Meh his faces and anatomy need quite a bit of work.
>>43416681I assume you could negotiate for installment instead of lump sump, maybe?If things got really dire you could always just declare bankruptcy, sure it'll fuck up your credit score and maybe you'd lose your car or something but hey, you're literally guaranteed millionaire in the years to come.
FauFau today?
>>43416851
>>43416713I BELIEB
>>43416654>waveI will ignore that.>the EN market went bust late 2021You are just pulling shit out of your ass.
>>43416768Wasn't it a metaverse sandbox game?
>>43416313I dunno, the only data we have to work with pretty much says that nothing's worked so far, and my only data dabbling with women's fiction (otome isekai) says there's no real demand for dudes with anything more than 2-bit personalities...unless they're sadistic torturers. Granted, you could've said the same about men ~10-20 years ago, what with the overabundance of haremshit, but I can't find a female equivalent to reiwa monagamous romcoms (ie: one specific best girl, in excruciating detail).
>>43416903
>>43416881>30-50%roruAAA game marketing budget is usually 75-100% of it's development budget.There's a GDC talk about this, let's see if I can find it.
Is /#/'s average IQ score declining?
>>43416897Why do you pretend you care about her?
>>43416971It’s basically a craftopia clone
>>43414218>Just got back from a tripI doubt your parents lets you go outside anon. Next time just get straight to the point without the fanfic.
>>43416849didn't they demo building and combat on stream? You are telling me that it's just a way to kill time? What are they even spending all that money for?
>>43416750it's genuinely terrifying that AI is now capable of making art good enough that art from entry level artists can be mistaken for their work
>>43416891>I assume you could negotiate for installmentThey don't care about the money, they don't want their talents to leave for another company because that's bad for the public opinion.Imagine if you are Anycolor and your talents keep leaving your company for hololive, that would send a message to everyone that you are a black company
>>43416682>>43416715Thanks for the (You)s. But you both know this is exactly what is gonna happen. Just like how Anycolor keeps dropping EN waves because Luxiem brought the big money. They're going to become more keen on bigger gains potential gains and that simply isn't going to happen with the EN side anymore. Tempiss was nothing more than a failed attempt to diversify revenue in the EN branch and we all see how that panned out. EN is gonna continue to exist with support but you're not getting more girls or boys on that side of the company.
>>43416768https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4_M9F6FsLoWatch this first. You can enter rooms, navigate a 3D space while watching your oshi's concert. Shit's basically a money printer if they can get this going with microtransanctions like penlights, avatars etc.
>>43416313if they wanted to watch streams, they would
>>43417007>AAAThere's your problem.
https://www.youtube.com/live/bDXF5yAYIyoDid Hakka upload the portion of the vod he wanted to cut out?
>>43417001
>>43417047It’s about having fans constantly think and consume Hololive. If they add a way to encourage stream watching, even better (like a rewards system).
>>43417047It's not hard anon>Build some basic just-good-enough video game to convince people to install the thing and keep it installed>Sell virtual concerts in it like the ones they've done on VARK before
>>43416713Probably. Be ready for FRIENDS in her live.
>>43417047>building and combatIt's not THAT complex anon, the fact that they're trying to make a VRchat-like hub is more costly than just a building and combat system.
>debuted during the absolute 2022 HoloEN peak>got shilled by half of the HoloEN members with dedicated tournaments and collabs left and right>caused a fuckton of drama with HoloEN reaching their absolute lowest point afterwards>their most popular member speedran a fucking suspension and has been acting like a complete menhera ever since>accelerated a new fucking gen in just 6 months>their numbers are absolutely shit and below fucking ID tier>their SCs are also pathetic>sisters now insist that they somewhat killed NijiEN singlehandedly just becausethese faggots are truly the handicapped children of the Vtubing community, never in my life I saw a group of adult men babied so hard.
>>43417007anon read his post again carefully, 30-50% of the overall game budget being marketing is having the marketing budget be 60-100% of the development budget
>>43417121
>>43417109Hey, you said major game.
>>43417145Truly the WNBA of vtubing
>>43417182
>>43417168Ah, you're right. Forgive my poor reading comprehension.
>>43416607Youtube and SPWN>compressed image quality>only the camera angle you are fed by themHoloEarth concert>high image quality>free camera angles>firework ejaculation
>>43416718>3 minute rides.What kind of rides would a Holo park even have?
>>43417140it seems pretty fucking complex when they have multiple developers working on it for multiple years spending multiple million of dollars.
>>43417215
>>43416718So, FujiQ?
>>43416313You just don't. They either do or they don't. My sister is a Sapling and catches every stream of hers but doesn't give a shit about anyone else in HoloEN, but also doesn't watch Twitch and shit. She also hates Tempus
>>43417140If they get advice from those AAA Company they are close with,what you think HoloEarth will become like?anyone have imagine it?
>>43417270
>>43417091>EN is gonna continue to exist with support but you're not getting more girls or boys on that side of the companyAnonchama...they literally redit the audition announcement weeks ago. Who do you think you're getting to with this nonsense?
>>43417254Most of the time and budget is spent on the concert and hub part.You can make a really simple crafting and combat system in unity in like 4 hour tops.
>>43416498look at this anon some neckbeard from /3/ could make the same if not better you give them enough money to buy some assets in less than a month. god forbid if they're trying to implement combat system from developer who has no experience at making video game
>>43417313(me)Since we know they are willing to spend money for tech and don't forget COVER is a TECH COMPANY.
>>43416750AI can't draw hands
Cover's vidya budget>Half of marketing costs go to giving holos more shit like new models>The other half goes to development and getting holos into more sponsorship dealsIt's kinda genius really
>>43417318
>>43417287I recommended stars music to my sister and she ended up watching holoJP instead
>>43417313Which AAA company are you talking about?Bushiroad?
>>43416750No but there is a new module allowing you to create posing model rigs and paint art over it which greatly simplifies multiple subject pictures. Coomer fueled technological growth is exponential.
>>43417237You're just using your imagination.We don't even know what the audio quality will be
>>43417393Kek
>>43417101I got in and this video doesn't even do full justice to how smooth it looked in gameFucking youtube compression
>>43417101And you can get an uncompressed 4K experience from it compared to Youtube's awful compression.
>>43417410If the AZKi and Mori concert test stream is any indication, it'd be pretty high quality
>>43417392
>>43416607It's exactly what I want real concert experience without going irl.And you just know their audience will getting bigger especially zoomer and younger generation. Everything is online everything is remote, no need to go to Japan. Just install it and boom save money
>>43417370oh no, you should check /vtai/
>>43417410Nyfco sister? They literally held a test concert with Azki and the wigger
>>43416204Ina talking in English in the middle of multiple girls talking in Japanese is a little awkward, is going to be even funnier when girls like Gura or Kiara decide to do their first hologra in japanese
>>43417447Why does it have to be Mori I don't want to watch
>>43417410Where do you fags came?
>>43417482Your loss.Beside, Mori is pretty okay these days.
>>43417482Because Suisei wasn't available
>>43417394Capcom,Sega,Square Enix?
>>43417287>>43417393your sisters based
>>43417502Just now im rewatching choco live, the song with Luna and Subaru.Ill cum in 2 minutes
>>43417287>>43417393
this stream would be the first sub 1k from vesper
>>43417482Mori hasn't had a full on sperg out for nearly a year now. Perhaps it's time to consider that she's actually changed for the better. Still a homo-collaber, but she's been that since like the first few months of her existence so whatever.
>>43417460Basically following the fortnite concert route
>>43417101The viewers being represented by untextured miniature pyramids is extremely silly and deflating.
>>43417531>those company giving advice to rival companyno way lmao
>>43417482You will watch Mori and you will like it
>>43417356tell me you know nothing about game development without telling me you know nothing about game development
>>43417502Doxxsite I assume.>Capcom, Square EnixNot a chance>SegaMaybe, imagine the Sonic Frontier-ish level design in HoloEarth
>>43417587Mori always makes you think she's done with causing incidents and then causes another one.
>>43417460>save moneythat makes no sense
>>43417587ill watch it on mute but itll be later
ANOTHER COMEBACK STREAM LETS GOOO
Kaela removing nijisanji's heads, kind of based.
>>43417476NTA.I thought we need homos to be used as guinea pigs for Cover's new tech, so that our protected holos won't have a scuffed stream.
>>43417591https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiM0moNk74ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYeFAlVC8qU
>>43417599now that's AI
>>43417480The issue with Ina is that she sounds bad. Her voice acting just hasn't improved at all. She sounds like someone trying to imitate a caricature of herself.
>>43417597Former SE president is already on Covers board of directors
>>43417531>Capcom, SQENot a fucking chance>SegaMaybe? I want those Sonic Frontier level designs in HoloEarth.
>>43417663>Niji En branch is dying
>>43417679you will kneel to AI art
>>43417672The Kaellotine, if you will.
>>43417663Excited to see how many of them got pregnant, thank god they're in Canda and can have abortions easily.
>>43417597>rivalCover does not rical them in any shape or form. If anything, Cover shills their games all the time.
>>43417237Bitrate and livestream compression is an infrastructure problem, you can't work around it without fatter pipes or faster clients for quick decompression.Since half the clients are phones now, the latter is right out. Since a quarter of the viewers are from SEA and the rest have residential connections, the former is right out without heavy caching at a CDN.tl;dr: HoloEarth will have shitty video quality live
>>43417581Never forget 6k soli- 5k is his fl- ACK. Alright 4k is hi- oh....
>>43417672>Noir Vesper>853 and flatteningAIIIIYEEEEEEEE
>>43417727>Ugly as fuck white woman IRySThis is blasphemy
>>43417727looks like shit
>>43417613Capcom and Cover are still buddy with how active hololive shill capcom gameshttps://www.siliconera.com/hololive-management-company-signs-licensing-agreement-with-capcom/
>>43417727WHAT THE FUCK
>>43417727That just looks like a cheap cosplay.
>>43417672Tempiss bro.. our ace?
>1kKek he made it
>>43417727IRyS' strongest positive trait is that she's part Japanese how could you do this
>>43417727Seeing the burst of development in AI art recently is quite interesting
>>43417581>>43417756>>43417765Cut him some slack, this is the equivalent of one of those part 10 of some long story driven game half the audience has tuned out of streams except the homo's starting audience was like sub 2k instead of what the girls left
>>43417741>video qualityDude...
>>43417727me on the bottom
>>43417791Capcom is busy with their SFVI launch and future RE sequel.Sega meanwhile is bored as fuck, they literally has other studios make games for them while main branch is busy imagining the next shitty Sonic game
>>43417727What the heck are you feeding, anon?
>>43417834The AI successfully convinced you that it looks real then
>>43417860So like ame's play through?
>>43417873irys, you shouldn't post here.
>>43417877Frontiers was good tho.
>>43417741SEA has way better internet than Ozzy mate, and I could watch the fortnite concert las year just fine.
>>43417672oh no tempiss sisters
Just make another Sonic Mania.
>>43417927Ame ditched teamates for being backseatfags and spoilers for like 5 hours while she played and got to end of the game and restarted her stream to finish it
>>43414326in my ass, pull her out.
>>43417663Damn, sub 3k and 2k for long waited comeback stream. Isn't that too low for niji standard?
>>43417945You know the drill, 2 shitty Sonic game for every good one.That means we are owed two shitty Sonic game in the next 5 years
does mentioning holoearth reduces the iq of people on this board? I swear some of the dumbest shit I read comes up when that game is mentioned. also holy shit does it make me hate gachafags
>>43417335And? How long have auditions been open for HoloEN and still no 3rd Gen? They had a window to launch them before going public, but even I'm guessing they see their own internal data on how much the channels have declined after COVID restrictions lifted so they decided against it. Investors are gonna want to see big numbers get bigger, which means Cover is gonna have to maximize profits which means more JP and less EN.
>>43417741how are you this smart while being this stupid? The point is to send only the motion and audio data and having the client locally render the graphics with previously transferred assets. It's a 3D game.
pls dont ban me mods I thought we were operating under wild hours
>>43418012I don't see any gacha mentioned, are you okay anon?
>>43417877Yeah,that why advice is possible option for them to get free advertisement in holoearth board like this.
>>43417741It's not video, that's why it's able to be higher quality in the first placeIt just sends you an audio stream + motion data and your device renders everything
>>43417356Unironically tell me you never took a game development class. The thing looks like a Genshin rip off which was originally a Zelda rip off meaning the assets are at least custom made and shaded. I've been around my fair share of Unity shit piles and those games look more like evem shittier PUBG knockoffs, Reign of Kings, or ripped MMD models put in badly textured ruined cities.
>>43418012Hey people still believe it is the same as Zuckerberg's Metaverse and that it is an NFT.And speaking about NFT, Kamitsubaki keep falling further into it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbC6GOECHNw
>>43417471yikes
>>43415234If Ame could she’d make her 3D showcase a guerilla unannounced stream at 3am and label it as a regular gaming stream.
>>43418009Yeah, can't argue against that.
>>43415843>Unfortunately idol cultural is a thingShe unironically got away with saying this and they literally have to do idol reps for 1 event i think it's a very fair fucking deal, just don't be a retarded drama whore and put effort for 1 event for evething else they can do their own thing
>>43417672>daily login stream...did Kaela really just stream just to keep a streak going or something?As an EN fag, that makes me so jealous - EN3 absolutely needs a KaelaOr maybe not that extreme - a Koyori instead?
>>43418113AI understands loli though
>>43418003Infighting drove away a lot of Niji's fans
Vesper is die?
>>43418069Between Capcom and SQE, only one of them has any experience in making open world game, and unfortunately SQE is busy burning their money for another NFT projects and the sequel to Shush Shush Man
>>43418138Mori say she hate vtuber in rm in the past too
>>43418113In Mumei's words: "Check the hands"
>>43417741>HoloEarth will have shitty video quality liveFucking nyfco sisters talking out of their ass
>>43418154Why are their comeback streams so low?
>>43418113Come on, you're cherry picking>>43414475I get that most model still look terrible at generating hands, but from the image above we can see that generating hand is not a long-term issue
>>43417727What'd you do, feed it vtuber images on a real life people model?
>>43417428I like this AZKi better than nu-AZKi..
>>43418154RIP Reimu
>>43418198Can't blame them,too poor to afford a good GPU.
>>43418209nijiwhore's numbers would have increased by two-fold if Vesper didn't overlap with them
>>43418179She disliked idols. She didn't really have any opinion on vtubers since she wasn't really aware of them. The first vtubers she almost certainly noticed would have been Kizuna Ai and Projekt Melody.
>>43418239I didn't make any image, I just take them
>>43418179source: trust me bro?
>>43418260Money spent on milord SC, they can't even afford Quest headset
>>43417287Wait you're the anon whose sister had an epiphany that she's a unicorn right? Your sister is fucking based.
>>43417741It's not video anon... Really? Do I need to explain to you how online video games work and why we need to install it on our local machine before playing iy?
>>43415843A lot of them say this at the start, then they get caught up in the *wonder*, and change their mind about it. I doubt the Ame of three years ago would think that she would have the most unarchived karaokes of her entire gen. I doubt the Ina of three years ago would think she'd be taking daily dance lessons for a concert.
>>43418154What happened to Nijisanji? Isn't this too low for a comeback stream?
>>43418295>what if we made Noel fat and put Reine's head on her body
>>43418154he is slowly stealing viewers
>>43418292The first one according to her and the one that taught her about idol stuff was MilkyQueen
>>43418314the retards who set up shop on the doxxsite weren't exactly what we would call intelligent
>>43418260Anon,do anyone know something or who is the B2 vup mentioning her Oshi is holo.
>>43418055>The point is to send only the motion and audio data and having the client locally render the graphics with previously transferred assets.>send motion updates and leave it to the client to render in timeImagine the desyncs when the audio stream is a whole minute ahead of the client's RAM starved integrated GPU potato. And the end result is still shit, just Quake 3 laggy jank instead of all dark video portions being blocky snow like we have today.Or the opposite case where the motion updates come in and render on time but the audio stream gets interrupted and all those frames have to be discarded and now the client is seeking like crazy trying to restart rendering from the right point in a moving audio stream.
>>43418292And even the idol thing she changed her tune on. She still has some stupid opinions, but she's clearly come to accept and respect idols, even if she herself is not a perfect one.
>>43416632The thing is they can just release a functional product and it will be fine since the project was never ment to be a final game If that makes sense they are going keep updating it anyways and getting performance and player feedback is also rather essential then holing up for 6 years to make the game
>>43418226>cherrypickingI picked all the pictures in order that showed visible hands. That Pekora one doesn't show her hands in full view and even then, you can clearly see her right hand index finger is fused together with her middle finger
>>43418327>>43418209vesper unironically stole their viewers
>>43418138Kronii isn't even doing a real deal thing. She isn't at the studio and never recorded. Expect her entry into the fes to be different from the others.>onceHoloEN Connect looks like a concert so that makes 2.
Holy shit doxxsister is so retarded. I'm getting headache, don't tell me they never touch laptop, PC, or tablet and just relying on smartphone..
>>43418340I don't know why people criticise AI art so much, for me vtuber images are throwawayThings like feet dudes are always bad at faces and stuff anyway
>>43418368This is not a new tech retard-bro, Fortnite has done this twice at least.Hell, it's almost the same as you logging into VRchat lobby
>>43418418That's a given considering the constant typo because of fat fingers
>>43418368don't talk about thinks you have no experience about
>>43418239NTA but try https://civitai.com/models/6424/chilloutmix
>>43418392 Nah because I highly doubt Mumei and Fauna did their recordings while they were in Japan when they spent the entire time talking about how they went out to have fun. Bae has literally been the only one to talk about recordings and shit.
Good newshttps://youtu.be/2Ysgvba_0mo
>>43417608oh nyo tell me where i'm wrong anon. let just they're not using unity store, blender can churn out stylized procedural grass in less than a week realistically the whole area could be done in less than half a year and from the video you can only see minimal physics so they're just using pre-baked one
>>43418295>>43418429These are disgusting, stop posting your shitty AI "art" here.
>>43418482I love fauna
>>43416654En market has decline but it's retarded to think it has no potential myth did it once other gens can do it again holo will have to pander to the en market since it is the biggest one in the world and cover dosent have access to china anymore
>>43418482Fauner!
C'mon Aqua, get a tick.
>>43418475mumei and Fauna 100% mentioned having to do work
>>43418429Any Suisei photorealistic AI image?
>>43418554Proof next thread?
>>43418515>myth did it once othercarried by gen 5 and covid
>>43418488Sorry, either way I dont have any lewds of Ina
>>43418482Is this real?
>>43418571At this point just look at any Suityan cosplayer anon, what the fuck are you doing?
>>43414093My fucking side
These AI arts are getting better every day
>>43418634Most of them are males....
>>43418605What is going on here?
>>43418531Oh hey Gura ticked again
>>43417393The true rabbithole consumes all
Sisters don't understand technology ans game development, I am not surprised. Also the supposed $10m+ for developing HoloEarth is lower than I thought. Typically AAA games cost almost as much as a high profile Hollywood movie but HoloEarth only costs about as much as 2 successful indie kickstarter games.
I think the key for hololive going forward will be how to handle holostars, holoearth, and how to acquire viewers from outside. First of all, it is becoming very important whether Holo Stars will continue to operate as a separate group from Holo Live, or whether it will be integrated with Holo Live. Recently, there seems to be an atmosphere of encouraging hololive audiences to see holostars, such as mixing them into year-end concerts and putting them out on free stages at holo expo. However, since Hololive has originally grown as an idol group that is conscious of a female-only space and does not involve men as much as possible, there are not many people who want to see Holostar in terms of audience. In addition, the overseas version of Holo Star was growing well at first, but when I became actively involved with Hololive en, the number of female talents who were actively involved with me and the number of plays decreased considerably. Due to this, overseas fans are now getting a little farther away. As for cover, I think that there is an idea to extend Holo Star and acquire female fans, but there is a dilemma that if we actively involve Holo Live in order to extend it, the number of viewers on the Holo Live side will decrease. I think that how to extend the Holostar will become important in the future.Next is Holo Earth. Needless to say, if this is successful, there will be no middleman such as Google, etc., and it will be possible to earn profits, so I think it will be an important matter that will directly lead to future profits. As for the game, it has almost the same atmosphere as the existing Craftopia game, and there are Hololive characters.Finally, in terms of acquiring viewers from the outside, hololive has a strong culture of pushing boxes, so there is a point where the relationships between talents are quite strong and they share the same fans. As a comparison, in the case of Nijisanji, the number of livers is quite large, so the overall relationship is thin, so I have the impression that each talent has its own fans. Based on these, if you look at the current total number of active fans of each group, when all the livestreamers participate in the project of the whole box, Hololive will have 200,000 people together. Since nijisanji has 300,000 people, there is an image that the number of active people is a little small despite the large number of registrants. Therefore, I think it will be important to acquire fans from outside in the future.
>>43418684Anon, Suityan IS male
>>43418531She just got a tick like last week?
>>43418587>makes outlandish claim about council just going to have fun and wants to be spoonfed when called out.why are you like this? just do your reps or watch streams.
>>43418719Anon that's Towa
>>43418715Lmao is this ChatGPT?
>>43418715Is this C&P from reddit?
>>43418711Which indie kickstarter got 5 fucking million?!Star Citizen don't count
>>43418780Shenmue 3 and Bloodstained Ritual of the Night.
>>43418780Star Citizen counts
>>43418780Star Citizen is already at $500M...
>>43418751Why do you think Suityan lusts after Aqutan anon?
>>43417597Cover is unironically doing something completely unique that no other brand can touch on also the reason why holoearth has earth shattering potential.
>>43418012I don't know which sentiments you are referring to specifically, but consider the following:- Cover has no experience in developing a product like HoloEarth- HoloEarth is trying to be many different things at once, which complicates development- most MMOs fail and get shut down a year or two after release- watching a stream on Youtube has a low barrier of entry because basically every device can play back compressed video streams without issues, an interactive 3D rendered environment will have different hardware requirements and either the control interface has to be designed primarily for mobile devices or excludes them completely- HoloEarth is clearly intended to attract a wider audience than the existing holo fanbase, but those people have different standards for what makes an attractive product
>>43418780Subverse
>>43418711programmers get paid basically nothing in Japan. I have no idea what they have been spending millions of dollars so far.
>>43414836kek
>>43418838It's Second Life.
>>43418683Even with a high standard, my feet folder would be quite empty without allowing for flaws from artists.Also considering how hot it is objectively, you're sounding like a seething faggot over an image kek
>>43418780>>Star Citizen don't countwhy
>>43418820Holy hell, I never knew Shenmue3 got 6 millions.>>43418827Yeah, counts toward litigation. It's been almost 10 years and the game hasn't been golden yet.At this point it's just an overly complicated tax evation scheme.
>>43416411>OK # I need your expertize for this matter, we keep talking about this and that about HoloEarth but the most important questionYou don't need any anon in this thread to answer any of these questions, just watch this streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4_M9F6FsLo
>>43418858It's not a mmo you retard.
>>43416453Holoearth is already a net benefit for Cover since the asset made their will be used for their concerts/events etc
>>43416628Concert venue so they can stop paying SPWN
>>43418715>the number of female talents who were actively involved with methe AIs, they're just like us...
The holo*27 project is kind of flop, isn't it ?
>>43418988This is literally a money printing machine.
>>43418858>watching a stream on Youtube has a low barrier of entry because basically every device can play back compressed video streams without issues, an interactive 3D rendered environment will have different hardware requirements and either the control interface has to be designed primarily for mobile devices or excludes them completelySolution to this seems to be quite easy assuming that you're thinking of using HoloEarth for watching concerts. Just stream it too at youtube just like the demo concert last time.
>>43418988Is Mori the most accomplished Vsinger right now?
>>43418980A surprising amount of people were nostalgic for Shenmue.
Just a side note,a vtuber is discussing about auditioing for R18 Yuri game right now.
>>43419098I remember seeing it got 2 millions and I thought that was it.
>>43418368This thread is extra thick with retards today
>>43419130whomst?
>>43418988Am I alone in thinking this is a noticeable downgrade from the current 3D lives, or is this an extremely rough conceptual demo that won't reflect what the stage shows will look like when the app launches?
>>43419090>accomplished VsingerThat's a tough question when you cannot defined either accomplished or vsinger without massive disagreement
>>43419075The songs are quite meh for me
>>43419130You have to provide more info than that if you are going to get any discussion going
>>43419075BaeXGura is such a weird pairing, at least the other ones make sense
>>43419136This is that fucking>APEX is mostly server sideall over again.
>>43418858Theoretically being able to hold 3D Live's that are more immersive and don't suffer from stream compression. It's a simple concept and you make it more complicated
>>43419075>Pekomiko won't hit 1M in a month>Gurashion/Gurabae songs growth are dead in the waterDeco*27 is a hack
>>43418988So what is this then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V722bYH07P4
>>43419075Yeah. The songs are not it. Nothing like pre vtuber Deco*27. I also blame Kanauru.
>>43419181Clue:Nekofami + menhera + twitcast
>>43419159>Am I alone in thinking this is a noticeable downgrade from the current 3D lives,Are you fucking dumb? You are commenting from the fixed position of the camera director in this live stream but the whole point is that you can look from whatever POV you want>FROM WITHIN THE FUCKING LIVE ARENAYou not only can watch this from the upskirt POV but you can also shoot crackers at them
>>43419075Thank god, keep deco away from Hololive he's an actual plague of overrated music. All of these resources could have gone into actual original songs instead of the cookie cutter garbage deco puts out.
>>43419225I bet you think VRchat is only for chatting huh
>>43419159Because you watch it from YouTube. When you experience it on the game it's like going from 144 era of 2000 YouTube to 4k but you can move ot freely and giving gesture
>>43419159Of course you think so, you didn't enter the pillarWhile it was somewhat plain showcase when compared to expert camerawork Cover has in the lives nowadays it still opens up more possibilities than it closes, it even has the extra benefit of working better with actual sololives when it comes to coming up with shit for them
>>43419225>So what is this then:Something to entice anons to install the software and burn some time in between lives
>>43419075>kind of
>>43419240Mike is that you?!
>>43419278>you didn't enter the pillarkek, i wonder what that dude is up to nowadays
Is Deco 27 x Holo a complete flop? The best performing song right now is Pekomiko at like, 800k. In 1 month. For something as rare as Pekomiko. Gura x Bae got 300k in one day and then CRATERED to gaining sub 50k a day.
>>43419075those numbers seem alright for how much YT has fucked over music views desu
>>434164111.An MMO based off a recently established IP 2. Anyone with a PC or Laptop. Possibly smartphone for concert component, but won't assume that.3.Paid concerts ingame, cosmetic purchases, possible 'superchat' component for while the talents stream so the middleman is cut out, (that's speculation though),ingame collabs/sponsorships.4.All ages, but mainly 50 and younger and primarily targeting the male market.5. unknown from the outside, but there are no visible issues, we'll see in a year.
>>43419321Too many songs in too short of a time.
>>43419239Kanauru's last MV pre-Deco out performed most if not all of those.
>>43419075I hate how this is building up kanaru's profile
>>43419075How many song did this guy had to crank out in few weeks? No wonder that they suck.
>>43419321If it gets above 500k it's a success by any reasonable metricThe only people sayign its a flop are those suffering from terminal numberrot
>>43419075Oh hey, it's a needLe factory.
>>43418858Stop being a poorfag, nyfcosis
>>43419266oh yeah im playing vr chat for the combat and loots
>>43419350Anon, each of those are on a different channel, with differents singers and have at least one week between each.
>>43419377Anon, where do you think you are?This is THE numberrot central
>>43419130Vesper?
>>43419075Deco 27 is a hack and all the holo originals done by him suck
>If you don't know shit just shut up instead trying to look smartThis is one of important rule for human
>>43419362hes simply taking advantage of covers lack of options, a result of their owns crew up.s
>>43416411>>what is HoloEarth?Hololive experience app masquarading as video game>>who can use it?Anyone with working PC>>how will it generate money for Cover?Cosmetics>>potential market for it?Hololive fanbase + whoever gets hooked on the game>>how their progress so far?There was a working prototype live a while back
>>43419393We literally saw this phenomena last year too anon, with FBK Kingworlds barely gained 200k in a month
>>43419354It was pre youtube nerf to song views.
I have numberrotI am literally fixing for a 100k stream
Nazuna is discussing about auditioing for R18 Yuri game right now.
>>43419321Rank them compared to other non-Deco MVs recently released.Things are just on a downward trend.
>>43419466Anon, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. If a song isn't very good (like king world), it's not going to perform well.
>>43419462>CosmeticsAnd concert tickets.No more having to share the profit with SPWN
>>43419489Will she be doing VA?
>>43419472YT started their weird anti-kpop bot shit around June/July 2022 which everything else got caught up in.
>>43419526>Kingworld isn't very goodI'll fight you bitch, Kingworld is better than Say! Fanfare
>>43419313Calling the DakimaGura pedobait and flaming it on twitter.
>>43419497It's a good thing that hololive can afford to have a few flops but this is going to add up.
>>43419554It was April, the day of the sawtooth graphs
>>43419489I think she should apply to Hololive.
>>43419038nta but it isn't? It looks to me like an mmo of the guild wars model at the least.
>>43416752Does this work?https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/accounts/fees/TSE_JPN.php
>>43419672It's closer to Minecraft than the typical mmo game like FFXIV
>>43419075I don't think it's a flop. How much hololive music gets 1 million a month?
>>43418858The tourist potential holoearth has is insane i find it hard to believe it won't completely take over the internet for a month if it's executed properly
>>43418050Blah blah no one's reading your retardation. This is pity (you).
>>43419734Why do people say this with so much certainty when we've seen so little of it? All we really have is a quest and a trailer.
>>43419755For original songs ? I'm pretty sure a good 90% of EN songs managed that.
>>43413969Small corpo falling apart
>>43419772why are you responding to 30 min old post?
>>43419814Retard-chama >>43419225
>>43419472No it was DO U for Kiara
>>43419090Eh suisei is on her level or i would say even above it since she has more mainstream appeal in japan
>>43419863>KiaraPost disregarded.
>>43419841Oof
>>43419544>She mention doing a Yuri or BL audition depend on how pervert her fanbase behave in future.Based!
>>43419215>GurashionIt's not a Gurashion song anon. I do unironically think it would have done better if it was. Also damn they nerfed Gura the hardest giving her the most literal who partner and the worst MV.
>>43418055Dunning–Kruger effect
TOP KEK>Connor throwing shade at Gura daki by proxyFunniest part is that both his co hosts at Trash Taste have a colored past with liking and fetishizing lolis outright going as close as ... 2020?The funniest thing went with those three dudes: the millisecond they got their current girlfriends (Aki Dearest, Sysdnap aka VShojo Hajime and Ironmouse) the hentai loving loli enjoying MILF sommeliers turned 180 into "male feminists"
>>43419841remind me what's amber glow again?
>17k still watching Watamehow?
>>43419963If by proxy you mean>long ass reachthen yeah
>>43419827If you said this in 2021, you would be correct, but Mori's spate of underperformers sans rrat scheme and IRyS have sunk it.
>>43419554>>43419472>>43419627There's no confirmed song views cull/algo changeIsegye releases MVs with million of views in a weekNon holo/niji are doing records for fastest to 10M/20MKuzuha's King is gaining 150k/week steadily for monthsAqua iro pallete is still gaining more views this week than last weekSuisei's phony is still doing 350k/week for months Weak song releases for holos are most likely due to recline in audience that actually does their reps.Koreans and chinks in particular.
>>43419963You just wanted to post muh conner and vaguely tie it to vtubers. Fuck off anon.
>>43420015I honestly always forget that IRyS exist.
>>43420000She is queen of EU hours.
>>43419904I get the Yuri, but BL....? Don't remember Michael having a low voice
>>43420047This is like saying there's no cull because some chuuba's view was stable.
>>43419963Why is this guy popular again? Also the tweet is from mid 2022
>>43419963Vtubers?
>>43419963Retard! Go bring your trash to vsj
>>43419442>t. ESL
>>43420108>Rushifer
>>43419596Seriously?
>>43419859This is a better representation of it.https://youtu.be/dtUPqSW6rSY?t=1212
>>43419963Checked it and its a literal video of some sperg sperging out at the woman with the sign IRL. Which is in fact, not a sane look. Ain't no "maam i respectfully disagree with this" shit there.
>>43419596why are nijiniggers like this?
>>43419963>July 2022why revive this lmao
>>43419963that dude already lost all ties with hololive you are a retard for not asking him for rent
>>43419963shut up mori i know everyone makes mistake
>>43419963Why are you doxxsister so infatuated with dramas that you feel the need to create one out of thin air?Do NijiEN dramas not enough for you?
>>43420114There's no cull now anon...
>>43420181yea someone was posting screenshots of him shortly after the release showing it was the same guy.
>>43420173After checking the clips, maybe she could pass for a shota character
/#/ really can't not to respond to off-topic TT posts. If you ever want to derail the discussion here just post some random TT twitter post.
>>43420196The core gameplay is the same.Less complex combat/storyline and more open world.
>>43420213Nice English.