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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>43403094Recent clip numbers>>43400857>>43400885>>43400907>>43400939>>43400968
/#/ is reclining in quality
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>82,391: Marine (Hololive)>30,999: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>30,598: Koyori (Hololive)>30,188: Gura (Hololive)>25,421: Salome (Nijisanji)>25,354: Chloe (Hololive)>24,514: Subaru (Hololive)>23,389: Miko (Hololive)>21,666: Kanata (Hololive)>19,412: Towa (Hololive)>14,312: Iroha (Hololive)>14,025: Botan (Hololive)>13,612: Hololive (Hololive)>13,198: Subaru (Hololive)>12,839: Lize (Nijisanji)>12,811: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>10,682: Karuta (Nijisanji)>10,554: Furen (Nijisanji)>10,511: Nui (Nijisanji)>10,447: Luna (Hololive)
>>43403094This thread
is kaf suisei-tier yet?
Sus
>>43403170>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 202314) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi>PER COMPANY12x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora3x: Marine2x: Toya1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY35x: Hololive13x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER18x: Pekora4x: Marine3x: Toya2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro
>>43403089>>43403025>looks emptier and deader than the Luxiem cafe>NijiEN got cafes in Japan, Malaysia and Taiwan while Hololive only got cafes in Taiwan?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moU_n5J-gh0see that line sisters?
>>43402979If EN and tempus are sharing recruiters and the main reason EN3 hasn't been hired is because their too busy chasing homo ass for a whole year...
>>43403207>replying to frenchie baitAnon...
*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*>2/18 DAILY TALLY30,174: Gura (Hololive)9,418: Amelia (Hololive)7,985: Millie (Nijisanji)6,307: Uki (Nijisanji)6,145: Ike (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream>PER COMPANY18x: Hololive>PER STREAMER4x: Mori3x: Baelz2x: Amelia, Fauna, IRyS, Gura1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)24p: Mori21p: Baelz17p: IRyS15p: Fauna14p: Mumei, Amelia12p: Ina10p: Gura7p: Kronii, Vox5p: Kiara4p: Vesper3p: Uki, Luca, Magni1p: Mysta, Millie
>>43403207it's a retard bait you idiot
>>43403094NEWS ANCHORReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from last thread:>Ina showcased her 3D model https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cc16ZBW0GY>idol EN 2 lineup confirmed https://twitter.com/AvielBasin/status/1627226757077114882
GRIM
Holy shit, hlgg has a fucking Gura porn pic for the OP and it's still here
>>43403251>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY31x: Hololive16x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori4x: Baelz3x: Mysta, Ina, IRyS2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Fauna, Gura1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)46p: Mumei38p: Ina33p: IRyS32p: Fauna, Amelia29p: Baelz, Mori26p: Vox23p: Mysta17p: Kronii14p: Luca13p: Selen12p: Kiara10p: Pomu, Gura9p: Millie8p: Ike7p: Regis5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel
>>43403223I believe recruiter falls under management so both stars and holo has their own recruiters.Dunno about overseas branch like EN tho
>HoloEN connect likely to just be a side show for a main event>NijiEN AR live still gonna happen
>>43403282BASED BASED BASED
who said yesterday that he would be happy to welcome the sisters on /vt/ after the massive exodus from the doxx site
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei >Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_ >MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0 >Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune >Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune >Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff >Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich places to end up for these streamers include>NijiEN Gamers >HoloEN3 >Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs Other notesTsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888 VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713 Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944
>>43403282Fucking niji meidos is at it again
>nijinigger memes that aged like milk
>>43403293You really need to let that AR thing go....
>HOLOLIVE BTFO!How do you even respond?
>>43403307Obviously nijiniggers would love to have more back up
... i'm declining
>>43403177Kaf is Aqua tier in which Suisei want to rape them both.
>>43403315>Castella InomoriJuly 30th>MelonbreadJuly 23rd>SelkieOctober 16th>SellenaDecember 30th>UsamiSeptember 27th>>RoaFenJanuary 6th>Etherna CelineJuly 27th>>Etherna HelenJuly 28th>Makoto & Akira MisakiNovember 6th
>>43403329who?
>>43403282Should we do the same? It feels wrong having global out cunny us.
>>43403322I would if it was gone. It isn't. Something is happening. Most NijiEN fans agree with me.
>>43403344Rated: True
>>43403275It's cute but I honestly hate most of the logos of holos with a passion. Cool itasha though still
>>43403318Doesn't the document from Cover say that Yagoo has more money than Riku?
>>43403329> B-but what about Hololive?!
>>43403329>94 viewsHow do you even find this stuff
>>43403292>both stars and holo has their own recruitersHow sure of that are you?
>>43403329Siding with the same people that cancelled Zaionnijis have no standards...
>>43403329>try not to be friendly towards hostile elements>panders to chinks>panders to troonsogey
>>43403378not even a devout holofags will proclaim thatRiku simply have more money than yagoo
>>43403378Cover has more warchest than Anycolor, but Riku has more stakes in the company than Yagoo
>>43403282kek >>43402455
>>43403378actually no, Yagoo earns 30 Million yen a year because he actually reinvests his earnings back into the companyRiku earns 50 billion because he's all about milking the company of all he can get away with before it folds
>>43403329I'm so glad hogwarts filter them out, tranny can go watch nijien. let them ruin nijisanjidon't tell her nijisanji jp exist tho
>>43403318Even if it's still true, I don't get why the meme is funny.
>>43403386that sisters post her own tweet
Got banned for posting kson pics and now a R18 cunny stayed as an OP, fucking useless jannies but let that one stay up, I don't mind that one
>>43403432Nijiniggers unironically cheer when Riku earns more moneyI never thought this level of corporate bootlicking is even possible but there it is
>>43403329not going to be surprised if these trannies already in line to debut for the upcoming NijiEN gens. Not gonna complain though, they'll implode sooner or later by hiring these faggots
>>43403430
>>43403442Based janny!
>>43403388It would make sense for them to have separate recruiters given the different traits and personalities they seek in each branch.The only evidence to the contrary is how both Stars gen 1-3 and ID1 was interviewed by Yagoo
>ina doesn't have a big audience but they are the most dedicated ones in ENIs this true?
>>43403442why are you ban evading
>>43403455I'm actually surprised that they haven't hired an open holo reject turned anti yet
>>43403329I really want to know what she means by Hololive being friendly towards hostile elements in their fanbases. Just what is going on in their clique over there?
>>43403432Nijiniggers like to suck riku's dick despite he almost contribute nothing to the liver's success. Not even scouting talent
>>43403329How come anytime there's a drama in NijiEN, hololive somehow gets roped in?
>>43403476dedicated to be the most boring hololive
>>43403506because hololive lives rent free in the heads of nijiniggers
>>43403282holy kek, chumkeks are unhinged after the gura daki release.
Pekora cat review stream, RIP Ina gold
>>43403506RENT FREE
>>43403495>hostile elementsIn this case it's probably gachikois and people gatekeeping against the trannies and the anti lolis
>>43403506REPEAT AFTER ME! SUCCESSBREEDJEALOUSY
>>43403506
https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849PEKO GOLD
already trending despite it being two weeks away. If they announce EN3 in conjunction to this, it's over sisters...
>>43403520>>43403418Humans makes mistake
Nijiniggers worships the company more than Holo fans. Is there a reason why they have such a behavior?
>>43403522>Pekora cat review stream87k
>>43403537So in the end, the discussion always goes back to "Idol culture". God, what a stupid boogieman
Leeching whore can't even reach 16k even after a nearly 8 hours of stream AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
>>43403561post screenshot, I don't want to open twitter
>>43403581It's the opposite anon.The Box is not just a meme.
>>43403485evade THIS!
>>43403600who are you even talking about, spectrum90?
>>43403329>>43403495Hostile elements is code for "Gachikoi, lolicons, and other people I don't like"
>>43403561but all of them have a pussy anon
>>43403506Twitter anon, it's NijiENs breeding ground. Remember Zaion? They'll be bestfriends for one day, then they'll cancel each other the next day.
>>43403611The box features the talents, nijisanji watchers shows up in droves to watch the company channel
>>43403626>Hostile elements is code for...customers
>mythfags overestimate Pekora's cat review stream to grudgepost lateryou fuckers are so transparent
>>43403611you say that but it's not holofags boasting about how much money Riku is making, and using that to say why Nijisanji is better
>>43403596Nah, it's not that.You know how edgy teens like to claim that their taste is better than others? That's the nijifag mentality.
>>43403673holo vs holo. sisters are so transparent
Based holospy
HoloFes announment prediction, go!
>>43403626So they're threatened every time Gura talks about how much she appreciates her Chumbuds for supporting her
so what happened to kuzu gold?
>>43403653I mean, they have more than hundred of livers at this point. It's easier to watch them all together on Anycolor channel.>>43403675I doubt those were sincere and not ironic .
>>43403626It has been said before:>It's always hololive's fault somehow
>>43403047The cafe Mori is referring to is the full EN collab one, not this mix with ID and Stars.
>>43403673This you? >>43403329
>>43403561Mori collab
>>43403741see >>43403318
>>43403765Mori is in Taiwan though
>>43403744Reminds me of this thread sometimes
>>43403522Bro she just gathering submission? No fucking way she asked for submission and do the stream in the same day
>>43403737I hope it's something to do with HoloAlt. Just another animated music video is fine
>>43403522Anon pls check the date.
>>43403618ah the good old days
>>43403737Day 1 EN3Day 2 JP7
>>43403778I bet this was made by the same people that said Riku keychain sold like hotcakes.
>>43403798Japs always take pics of their cats anyway.
>>43403854So, nijiniggers?
>>43403434kek
>>43403841Use the bait thumbnail version pleasewhat did captcha mean by this: 8 WAH2
>>43403867Worst, ironic nijifags.
>>43403867Duh
>>43403843double whammy at the biggest Hololive event of the year... Imagine the seethe it would generate! sisters...
>>43403856She also taking submission from Holomen
Is it too early for HoloEarth Pre-Alpha?
>>43403753there's TWO taiwan holo cafe?
Mio 20k
She lost some weight?!
>2 nsfw thread on catalogWTF!?
>>43403922yes, the one with the Stars and JP and the HoloEN exclusive one
>>43403910They are in that stage. Still at least 2 years away til fully commercial unless they ACCELERATE
>>43403425Based Riku. And he can just keep milking the "livers" since nijinigs far and wide worship and grovel at his feet for doing it.
>>43403958jannies are asleep
>>43403744>>It's always hololive's fault somehowI'll never forget that the Niji discord fags tried to blame Holo fans for Lulu graduating during the week after her announcement and her final stream.
>>43403959>>43403922>>434037533 active cafes currently, as far as I know. 2 Taiwan, 1 in Singapore with Council and IDshttps://twitter.com/anipluscafesg
Re-investment is just a code for "We are not popular enough to stand on our own" Holofags.
Mori's weightis reclining
>>43403972I wonder how big Hololive would be when they finally release HoloEarth
>>43403991lol watqrdI was away from hololive because of the graduating bitch
That bait doesn't even make sense
>>43404028Wait until Holoplus release
Imagine if Coc has gotten rid of Coc, Artia and the gang would be standing on stage at HoloFes....
>>43404069you're expecting too much from nijikeks
>>43404069What do you mean? It makes as much sense as selling out a venue means now you're in debt.
>>43404021If they put one of them in the US it will be closed by trannies
>>43404069This is exhibit b >>43404083
https://note.com/asahikokura0805/n/n72b371a9182c
Even if there were a worst Vtuber corpo award Niji still wouldn’t win
>>43403884took a while to find this gem
They're awake again
>>43404083Nah. If Cover bowed to their demands to kick out Coc, Foobs is next. And then whoever they want to kick out. And then they will force Cover to sign the One China Policy and other political shit.
>>43404056They insisted it was holofans harassing her and stalking her for being in nijisanji and collabing with males and that all of her crazy fans are not Nijisanji fans. They shut the fuck up after she put the blame on Anycolor management, now they try to memory hole the entire affair.
>Ina is the only EN who gets gold in 2023Kneel your new queen of EN
>>43403885with the Gura daki trending on Twitter for either good or bad reasons, I would not be surprised if it beats dino Gura. I saw a lot of first time buyers here and on the QRTs
>>43404175because Wactor exists
>>43403457Can't wait to Nene mog the shit out of shitty shart
Too bad the thread got nuked.
>>43404220When has Gira merch not sold well?
>>43404185
Catalog full on doxx mode. Nyfco being nuked is shit, they were being contained there
Why is this thread so slow? It's JP primetime isn't it?
>>43403264https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ye3wGa9VR0Asu&Aru OMLive
>>43404332Ina already won
>>43404220trannies still seething?
Did our resident faggots get nuked along with the threads?
>>43404332maybe a wide ban happening right now.
>>43404174>Summary for busy people>At the moment, Nijisanji is overwhelmingly more profitable than Hololive.>(2) Hololive has overwhelmingly surpassed Nijisanji in fan acquisition and overseas expansion, but it is strongly dependent on spacha and secondary creation culture, and is one year behind Nijisanji in merchandise development.>(3) Hololive's future challenge will be to acquire female fans in order to increase sales centered on goods.> Depending on how much it costs to develop “Holo Earth”, which is scheduled to be released in 2024, it is highly likely that Hololive will overtake Nijisanji in no time.
>>43404351maripeko should be today and yesterday streamed normal, letting a shart win is one of seven biggest mistake
king status?
>>43404360Their whole existence is defined by pure seethe
>>43404332No one in this board understands Japanese
>>43404360They were the minority this time, got BTFO by lolichads
It seems that the KFC shit is real. But I cannot read Chinese so I don't know.
>>43404361>>43404332Ina already won... But i'm watching Twa in case you're asking
INA 3D STATUS>[] NOT BTFO>[] BTFO>[x] FLAT, STIFF AND BTFO!Holoblokes will DEFEND THIS!(Protip: if you even try you’re a tribalist)
>>43404403They are still nice enough to let EN have this gold, I mean they did give ID golds
>>43404395HOLOKEKS BTFOWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAQ7w9ReKLcsigh... Here we go again..
>>43404395>At the moment, Nijisanji is overwhelmingly more profitable than HololiveWhich means nothing if Riku pockets all the money.
>>43403506"Hololive". Hololive. HOLOLIVE! Did I bring up Hololive, by the way? Oh, did I mention Hololive? Let's talk some more about Hololive and how we are not like Hololive! [Insert chuuba here] is so much better than Hololive, you guys! Hololive! Let's talk some more about Hololive! We can't forget about Hololive. Can't forget to mention Hololive! Very related to this: Hololive. Don't even get me started on Hololive viewers! Yikes! Hololive! I bet they're coping out of their minds at HOLOLIVE right now. Can you even imagine being a member of Hololive?! Good thing [Insert chuuba here] isn't with Hololive. Hololive sucks. Hololive! We'll show all of them how we are not like Hololive. Unlike Hololive we have talent freedom. Hololive has no creative freedom. We're allowed to talk about parents here, unlike Hololive! Our content is awesome unlike Hololives content, which is not awesome, because Hololive does not make awesome content. Hololive doesn't let you make friends with whoever you want, only with other members of Hololive.The Hololive landscape will be flipped on its head by us who are not with Hololive. Aren't you happy you have us instead of Hololive? Hololive. Hololive. Hololive. Our goals are so much loftier than Hololives goals. We are not Hololive. We do not forgive Hololive. We do not forget Hololive. Gosh, I am so excited for the next concert without Hololive. Can you imagine even talking about Hololive in the current year? Ah, it couldn't be me bringing up Hololive in 2022 anno domini, that lord being not Hololive to be completely clear. I am looking forward to [Insert chuuba here] continuing to be herself (that is not being Hololive).
>>43404332first off, its weekend so normal prime time rules do not applysecond off have you seen what streams are on right now? there is barely anything going on both content and numbers wise
>>43404449That's kinda insulting to Ina
>>43403561>>43404326
>>43404449yeah, the 30k who watched Finana and Pomu would agree too
>>43404174https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSxWa1IInywVideo version I think?
>>43404449Can somebody post those rock-hard 3D Nijititties?
>>43403329>>43404449
>>43404174Is this the nip retard that keep saying hololive is dying soon?
>>43404449literal who?
>>43404403nijiseethe
>>43404220No way. Plushies are universal while dakis are a niche thing that only hardcore fans will buy
>>43404395> is one year behind Nijisanji in merchandise development.Nijinnigers are happy with copy & past merch... I see>Hololive's future challenge will be to acquire femaleThey already did that >it is highly likely that Hololive will overtake Nijisanji in no time.I think they already did that too in this year already.
>>43404395Comachama.. this is not 2020..
So this is what the doxxsisters get up to on the doxxsite huh?
>>43404449Ina's dancing reps...
>post twittard sc>easy (You) I hate newfags so fucking much
>>43404395>but it is strongly dependent on spacha and secondary creation cultureAs opposed to Nijisanji getting their money from...?
>>43404220There's a reason why Holo mochidoru sold more than dakis anon
Damn what mindbroke the sisters today? There is dox on the catalogue
>>43404538should just perma IP ban them, yeah majority would evade, but it'll lessen them nonetheless
>>43404449
>>43404592doxxsite is kill so they seethe here instead
>>43404449defend this?she's 6ft tall and old.she walks like she's x3 her regular age.her "dance" moves mimic an inflatable flailing arm man.either ina is unhealthy/fat or she's older than every holo in JP and should be put on an IV so she can live.
>>43404469Anon niji has 2-3x more talents...Black company...
>>43404449who is this nijinigger wannabe?
It's seething time already?
>>43403442Why post ugly when you can post cute?
>>43404395Seems like a bad interpretation of the data.Also, those anycolor slides, I cannot into nip, but is that Anycolor ID, or is the ID short for something else...?
>>43404284Yeah, after someone posted cheese pizza
>>43403329>>43404449It would be nice if some holofans would defend their oshis on main when insulted like this instead of silently seething on an image board, that's why you faggots keeps losing the culture war.
>>43404604To be fair, they're at best second string niji.First string niji 3D is pretty good, and I'm saying this as a holofag.This is the prime example of niji philosophy of rich gets richer.
Holo-Niji-VSPO Valo collab. >SAVE HONMA, YAGOO!
>>43403329>How do you respondSEETH
>>43404477Hey now, it's much better than ACTUAL ffxiv for her numbers.
>>43404670why? we already lives rent free in you nigger's head
>>43404683Vtubers really think Roboco is the gateway to Hololive.
good morning fags did i miss anything overnight
>>43404683Yesterday Chigu new outfit stream got 6k anon, imagine that.
>>43404683She does not need saving. She already has Axia.
>>43404700nijisanji really is a black company......
>>43404700Ouch, nijiniggers can you explain?
>>43403972This and Cover investing in that huge studio really shows how confident they are in their continued successHow long do generational idol groups remain relevant anyway? I know shit about the idol scene, but I've heard about AKB48 - are they still relevant or have they fallen off hard?
>>43404683i don't why roboco keep getting these cross company collabs, she must be a whore irl. She's dogshit at fps too
>>43404700I mean, we know that the talents get a big fucking cut of merch they self-fund, would make sense Hololive pays out quite a bit more (though for merch they don't have input on, the cuts are likely comparable between Hololive and Anycolor).
>>43404670I'll get outed as a 4chan scroller if i reply to that now but don't worry the comments for that will be glorious nobody can shittalk holo
>>43404700Sasuga Motoaki "Socialist" Tanigo.
>>43404395This seems like it was using 2020's numbers. Cover doesn't rely at all on SCs. For both Anycolor and Cover SCs are a small portion of their income. Tons of Anycolor's income comes from overseas too. There seems to be new Hololive merch several times a week.
>>43404683We need to trade Roboco for Bora
>>43404700Riku needs another yacht, please understand.
You know, I know that IRL looks do not determine the ability to get hired, but HoloEN girls are somewhat decent looking compared to NijiEN girls.
>>43404753Who?I don't think there's a niji liver with that name right now
>>43404592fake luxiem kfc merch
>>43404766Because no one would careThe bigger you are the more you have to maintain your image and be selective about who you interact with. Celebrities rarely interact with commoners
>>43404700Keeping talent morale high and ensuring they stay invested in the company's success by sharing a fair portion of the profit... Tanigo-sama, my knees... They're kneeling all on their own...
>>43404700majority goes into Riku and investor's pockets... Top talents complaining about money should already tell you everything
>>43404762They are still relevant to some degree, but vtubing kinda breaks the entire idol formula with ageless models and more flexible ways to put in work
>>43404700Shiba...
>>43404780>socialist >allow the talent to self fund and produce their own merch and reap the profit while holding the risk Can’t be more capitalistic than that For the record that’s not risk free, there was a time Aki got stuck with a whole bunch of unsold merch in that early era when they produced cheap stuff like T-Shirts. Then they got smarter and moved to “pre order” and limited sets
>>43404617>Asian>hyper shut in>woman>western processed foodEven an average anon would be able to toss Ina around like a potato sack.
>>43404592This is just what they get up to on the doxxsite on the regular, they have to do it here now that it's nuked
>>43404733>he doesn't know how influential behind the scenes Roboco is
How do you think the sisters will spin Cover sharing more of the profits with Holo members?
>>43404768Not just a fucking cut. If the merched is 100% funded by talents, then 100% income goes to talents Cover/HoloPro would just promoted it for free.Cover only got cut if the talents asking for some kind of financial support
>>43404700Let me get this straight, Anycolor has almost TWICE the talent as Cover yet they only pays AT LEAST HALF of what Cover pays their talent?Holy black company.
>>43404639Oh yea i fucking forgot that niji has more talentIn fact that holo can be compared to niji despite having lesser talent is awesome
I wonder how many hololive talents owns shares in the company, Lamy most definitly does
>Towa mentioned Lapplus
>>43404814anon, no "ugly" person would want to become a vtuber that has to dance infront of a lot of people.they already have to deal with their low self-esteem
>>43404395>At the moment, Nijisanji is overwhelmingly more profitable than Hololive.In overall profit, but not sales profit, because Cover is reinvesting into growth. Obviously a stock market reporter is going to favour paying out to shareholders and buying the CEO a yacht, but if you're a fan your opinion may differ>Hololive has overwhelmingly surpassed Nijisanji in fan acquisition and overseas expansion, but it is strongly dependent on spacha and secondary creation culture, and is one year behind Nijisanji in merchandise development.This is just weird. The two companies have different merch strategies, neither is behind the other. Cover hasn't been dependent on superchats since 2020.>Hololive's future challenge will be to acquire female fans in order to increase sales centered on goods.Why? There are a lot of very successful companies that sell more or less exclusively to male otaku.The guy also closes the piece by saying he hates hololive fans but thinks the company is a good investment, which is pretty funny
so i guess mori's cat will make a guest appearance in a peko stream?https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849
>>43404901Public company should make profits for their shareholders. Paying for employees is just a necessary expense.
>>43404780Nah. It is called "keeping the gold-laying hen healthy".But really, as a master poacher himself, Yagoo seems to be paranoid about his talents being poached. Maybe, that is why he compensates like crazy and he wants to make them feel as comfortable as possible.
>Towa is the strongest JP streaming So this is what happens when Towa finally streams FOTM games huh? Not bad...
>>43404950>master poacherwtfother than luna, who else did he poach?
>>43404860You seem to be mistaking socialism with authoritarianism.It's simple, Yagoo pays his workers well while Riku pockets most of the profits while his livers fucking starve.Yagoo is our Bernie Sanders.
>>43404942Not necessarily, she just said Holomen can also submit their cat, don’t think Mori would suddenly want to show her cat
>>43404449ah yes, the fabled niji 3D
>>43404984gen 4 has 3 10k+ streamer, just luna is stuck in 5k-9k range
>>43404984If Towa is so good why is there no Towa#2?
>>43404986>other than lunalol, he think all hologirls hatch from egg
>>43405015holo 3D props isn't any better
Yagoo always has a more personable appearance compared to Riku. I don’t get why Riku stops doing stuff with the streamers, he could use positive PR.
can king still get gold?
>>43405027Lapu...
>>43404915It is well known in the JP sphere Holos get paid mountains of cash compared to everyone else. I mean Gundou has mentioned it before.
>>43405032it's not poaching if it's free agent
Mori is just doing TL on stream
>>43404950That's weak shit. If Yagoo's only afraid of other company poaching holomen, there's no reason for him to pay non-talent workers like tech or management well.
>>43404768there's an easier way to measure thisname a single 3k median niji who bought a fucking house with their income
>>43404986I believe the cat and the dog duo.hopefully salami after she announces her graduation. jk
>>43404736
>>43405057HoloJP are unironic idols
>>43404449it would be nice if someona can reply to this tranny with a kuzuha or toya dogshit 3D model
>>43404984whats her real name though?
>>43405075non-talent workers are also talents themselves in their specific fields.
>>43404860Yeah but cover shares risks with them a holotalent is never in the risk of tuely going broke because cover has there back watame used a shit ton of money to make her song she said she was in the red but the company got her back
>>43405118Tortellini Tortuga
>>43405106That has nothing to do with how well Cover pays it's workers anon.
>>43404700Where's the diagram from Cover's IPO, again? The one where it shows how profits are being used. I'll use it in the future to BTFO sisters
>>43404206>They shut the fuck up after she put the blame on Anycolor managementReally? So she graduated, returned to her old account, then threw the management under the bus? How is she not sued for defamation?
>>43405132Yeah gotta poach the bookkeeping department of Cover, says no one.
>>43405162Ina's octopus had more effort than Elira's whole 3D KEK
The best first army is back!!!https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1627287944699740162
>>43405169nah, she threw the management under the bus during her niji graduation stream
>>43404021I found a review of sorts with pics on reddit for the EN-exclusive one:https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/10vatwp/dark_darker_darkest_weekly_discussion_thread_feb/j8436ar/Looks like it's reservation-based so no lines
>>43405041I see we've already moved from "Niji 3D is better" to "well, it's bad, but hololive's is also bad (t. someone who last watched hololive 3D in 2021)"
fucking neil, Towa was inclining to 20k on her first run of stage 2 and youtube died
>>43405118etrenal-san
>>43405182You joke but the scouting department is definitely on the radar
>>43405199Wait a second... is this a bait for me to watch her graduation vod?
>>43405162that looks like how a fat person moves
>>43404908>100% income goes to talentsNot quite, talents keep 100% the revenue but Cover took small fee for production and the like.
>>43405144yes it does, its where cover gets the money
>>43405162Did she poop her overalls?
>>43404947But we're not. We're fan here not stock owner. Unless sis here bought anycolor and is in deep red
>>43404534>quAliTythis is the numbers thread you retard
>>43405169Not what she did. In her last stream, she clarified that the reason she was graduating was that any time she would get a stalker mail, Anycolor would put her on break. The constant breaks got her fed up, and she asked if she could just opt to ignore it since they never amounted to anything, but they said no, so she chose to not renew her contract. It was kinda bad for both of them, since if Anycolor chose to do nothing, the police wouldn't treat it seriously. At the same time, if it's minor and didn't amount to anything, it's really disruptive.
>>43405162I NEED TO POOP
>>43405238Sure, Cover's scouting and tech department is on the league of their own, but shit like financial department and the like, they're dime a dozen.Yet Yagoo also pays them well.
>>43405135All of the songs of Watame's second album have MVs, I believe. Probably the only album I know that is like that.
>>43405150>>43404700>meanwhile in Cover
>>43405277like genshinfags on /gig/ always saysspiritual shareholders
>>43405191>taked vacations during valentinehoshinguyencucks...
>>43405257quick! call kobo! she can do something about it
>>43404395Preety much confirms that the guy dosent know shit about talents the reason cover is so overwhelmingly ahed of others is because of the amount of outliers they have in the industry suisei,mori,gura, pekora, marine,kobo,subaru all the others who can bend the numbers at there will and the low performars also dominate in there respective nieches
>>43405293Because thanks to them, Cover can finally go public and has enough money to fund the 3rd studio
Pictures have started popping uphttps://twitter.com/littlecapy4816/status/1627242355215716352?s=46&t=9tbPBRgHE-KYq7wx5Zsvewhttps://twitter.com/cg900610/status/1626611333734219777?s=46&t=9tbPBRgHE-KYq7wx5Zsvewhttps://twitter.com/lshadowmaple/status/1626840073592528897?s=46&t=9tbPBRgHE-KYq7wx5Zsvew
>>43405182I did not say that.
>NO YOU CANT PAID YOUR WORKER WELL BECAUSEWhat is this cucked mentality? Sound like Jeff Bezos dicksucker ngl
kaela is not streaming what the fuck
>>43404527Yeah Gura's my oshi and I bought three dino guras but I'm not buying the dakiThat's just way too cringe for me and I seem to be the rare chumbud that doesn't fit in /ggg/ if you know what I meanI mean I suppose I could buy it and never open its package...but then I might as well save for the next goomba merch
>>43405339Is there even a company aside from Cover that invests back? Anykara fucks off witn the stock money while Vshojo does nothing with their $11 million.
>>43405376Amazon cage wagie mentality
>>43405343That's the benefits of paying your worker living wage and more.High pay inspire high morale and results in high productivity which in turn net the company more money.
>>43405379some ID meet up with kiara
>>43405086>cat & dog got poached from the biggest Vtuber company at that time by YAGOOCan you fucking believe it?
>>43405402technically there is now movement of the stock money which is the various sololives
>HOLOEN GOLD TODAY.HOLOJPKEKS STATUS?
>everyone in hololive is a millionairebut why do they act like broke bitches?
>>43404700So Hololive talents gets 3.5 million dollars between 70~ talents and Nijisanji livers get 4.4 million between 150~ livers?
>>43405306>spiritual shareholdersdamn, they are corporate buttlicker and they don't even get profit from buttlicking company
>>43404395>At the moment, Nijisanji is overwhelmingly more profitable than Hololive>overwhelmingly more profitableIf Cover does some black company shit, they'd be rich too. Whatever Nijisanji is doing right now is burning everything too early for quick profits while sacificing long term longevity. The greatest proof is how they're still relying and focusing on their 2018-2020 talents on most of the shit they've done while the 2020-2023 debuts are having a harder time having a foothold. For all we know, Hololive could just be fine by doing lives every month and it'll payout a $80k+ in a minute.
>>43405106I mean they have far surpassed the traditional idol at this point i would even say that they have became something that hasn't been termed yet
>>43405402Does Riku stock buyback counts?he's investing in more yachts for himself.
>>43405431classic holo vs holo when BTFO
>>43405426The blackest company? Yes, it'd absolutely believable.
>>43405446Time to post riku's "short term profit" copypasta
>>43405431where's our Millie and Finana cripple gold, sisters...
>>43405366yeah taiwanese don't really use twitter much, and also they fucked up by not setting a proper hashtag
>>43404986>>43405426I don't think you know what poaching is. The person has to actually still be working elsewhere for it to be poachingIf your criteria are just "previously worked for some other agency no matter how small" that ends up being like half of JP
More breaks from NijiEN?https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin/status/1627239261346074627>I’ve decided to take time off until March 1 as I have a couple big deadlines and more family visiting this month and I honestly just feel too anxious and overwhelmed to stream. I’m really sorry, February has just been crazy in so many ways…thank you for your patience always TT
>>43405444Demigods?
>>43405487Late-chama...
1st army holo passing through
>>43405487See, Petra is lying and they’re secretly recording the AR Live right now.
>not including the hologra episode and the outfit shuffle at the end, the homo part with suisei is the most replayed part of the countdown live.I thought we hate the homos bros?
>>43405487>Comes back to do a shill stream>Fucks off again
>>43405487It's for the AR concertsand no, I'm not a nijifagsit's just an educated guess from the other members who also confirm that they're in Japan
>>43404991>mistaking socialism with authoritarianismThey're the same thing.
>>43405376It is just tribalfagging gone wrong, that they fail to realize the implications of what they are spouting.
>>43404762AKB48 is still relevant but only in Japan. The vtubing idol model innovates and improves a whole lot of bad stuff from the traditional idol industry.
>Posting almost 3 month old bait to deflect
this is some kind of bug right? There's no way a niji outfit reveal couldn't even beat HoloID after all that boasting nijikeks did, right?
What if Holo Sport Fes next year turns into a real Sport Fes with the bigger studio?
>>43405305meanwhile king Kuzuha himself knows nothing about his own merch KEK
>>43405478some please also attach that batman power using riku's face
>>43405540Let me guess, burger?Socialism is not China, it's scandinavian countries like Sweden and Norway.
>>43405487I feel Tempus' success did a lasting damage on these vtubers' mental health.
>>43405479with the EN-vtuber sphere got hard-cull by Youtube (HoloEN&NijiEN)You will never have a chance to see clipple gold for NijiEN unless it's "EVENTS" ever again.I'm not joking, btw
>>43405516like clockwork>>43405536
>>43405376nijiniggers are unironically the biggest corpo bootlickers anywhere on the planetNot even elon musk fans are this bad
>>43405524That's just suityan being able to single-handedly beat the homo debuffIf you look at the CCV graph it stopped growing when the stars part started and resumed growing once they left
JWU, did Finana get at least around 32k like her 3D debut on her outfit reveal stream?
>>43405562Flayon was streaming at that time so maybe Tempus overlap killed her numbers?
>>43405583>clipplebaby talk-chama...
>>43405444BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>43405616scroll up a little...
seethe and false flag more
>>43405376That's what late stage capitalism does to nijifags brain.It turns you into wagie slave defender.
>>4340561612k
>>43405483Just look at Taiwanese nekkos hash tag for nene 1mil. Those are confusing as fuck
>>43405616
>>43405616depressedchama, why are you sleeping 15hrs?
>>43405616lolno
>>43405662>late stage capitalism
>>43405394I like Gura and Cunny, but whether or not I buy the Daki would be a tough decision for me to make in the next few weeks. Daki just feels like an adult toy, it's a luxury item for single people who live alone and don't get much parent's visitation (although my country is very lax about that sort of thing and my parents would just tell me not to put cunny on display).
>>43405486Yup. I exaggerated.On the similar topic, regarding the Versen poaching rrat, I do not believe Yagoo talked about poaching because of it. You cannot be poached if the talent supposedly being poached did not sign a contract with you in the first place.
>>43405516How can something be considered "live" when its pre-recorded
>>43405644 ment for >>43405435
>>43405701Yeah I said it.We even have the clear example of what it does to chuuba sphere like Anycolor.
>>43405446I mean it's true, who spams sololives and concerts? Toya, Kanae and Kuzuha aren't solo performers. They never had ideals to become a performer.
>>43405366I saw some kenzoku go there first thing in the morning and post their Towa hauls in her art tag
>>43405490You know what? Why not let's just call holotalents demigods from now on
>>43405658Cn we have a gyaru holo for jp7? Pls yagoo i beg.
>>43405435No, the Anycolor number also includes things besides performer compensation, they didn't break it out
>>43405573kek.
>>43405524I mean the performance was unironically really good
>>43405437Who and where?
>No no no it didn't get cancelled>The company is just lying for no reason>They also refunded the tickets for no reason>And the livers are also lying about taking breaksTaking Lie-verse a bit too literaly, no?
>>43405680>>43405689At least it's not this.Poor Chigu
Was there ever a danger of poaching? Look at what happened to Coco and Rushia. It's not "poaching", but after they left, they didn't retain most of their glory and fame from Hololive. Their careers hasnt matured enough yet.
>>43405841should've taken the holo offer you dumb bitch
>>43405379She's in japan rn
>>43405437Poorfag mentality is hard to beat sometime anon.
>>43405446Anycolor has more 5digits streamers that debuted 2022 onwards than hololive does anon. Lauren & Salami against Koyori
>>43405844Sony poached sheep during her audition to Holo
>>43405446Salome is earning more for Riku with her sponsorships right anons? d-doryaaaa
>>43405841Chigu have some wacky ass eyes
>>43405568>>43405305note that some Holos know nothing about some of their merch too>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-HpirwIBYw>also add Gura's 1/7 figureA good rule of thumb would be if they shill the shit out of that merch, it's 100000% guaranteed that they're involved in its production. Also why they know all the nooks and crannies of their birthday and anniversary merch
>>43405437It's called being humble retard they are asended beings
We are living in a world where kiaras last original song is performing better than guras last original song. That is the funniest shit ever
>>43405791Oh, that's even worse. Those are monthly numbers, right? $3.5m between 70 people in literally nothing if yearly. There is no way to know how much the Nijisanji livers get but it is safe to say not much unless they are top tier.
>even towa is better at holocure than aqua
>>43405781Im a devout follower of the rabbit
>>43405855She couldn't have known that her star could sunk this low.Selejo debuted to quite a fanfare and high numbers, and then Riku proceeded to bury them under multiple new waves.
>>43405823The weird insistence that it's still happening also relies on deliberately ignoring that the 5th anniversary live didn't give refunds despite being delayed indefinitely (it ended up happening 8 months later)
>>43405819because their project also cost them very much.A good music video with songs perm cost them at least 1 million yen everytime they doing.
>>43405918Towa had uprades purchased
>>43405927no actually Selejo was the last wave they debuted in 2020 and had one of the longest uncontested periods in nijisanji. The next wave nijisanji release was edengumi almost 2 years later. Selejo failed because they were the first wave where they tried to push the themed wave unity stuff, and then got undercut by 3/5th of them barely streaming.also hololive heavily overshadowed them
>Miko is still streamingTrying to race with Pekora using sheer hours?
>>43405867Holo could never win this. Nice pick sister.
>>43405867>LaurenDebuted in 2021. So did Koyori.
>>43405437Coco burns money like nothing, anon.The orange Austrian is also said to have taken control of some Aryan land using her sheer euro.
Sad news, Selen is no longer yabless
King ... He's ngmi ...
>>43406002or maybe she just genuinely enjoy the game and want to keep playing?
>>43405999I thought Riku debuted 2 KR waves after Selejo?Or did my memory fail me?
>>43405880There's stocked generic merch like acrylics and so on, which is all Cover (and more like what Anycolor does), then there's the talent-specific merch like birthday setsThere doesn't seem to be a requirement that talent merch be tied to a special occasion, either, both Nene and Koyori have released extra merch on random dates
Roboco got a new hairstyle btw
>Everyone else getting canceled for playing HL>Selen's about to get canceled for playing Atomic HeartMan, EN gaming stream scene is fucking whack
When will Matsuri play holocure? Is your fucking update
>>43406071Well just a possibility, if she enjoy it then it’s good
>>43405867HoloX has 3 10k streamers anon. From 2021 to 2023, JP only debuted 5 members while Niji debuted 20 talents and only 2 of them are 10k streamers,>3/5 - 60% chance>2/20 - 10% chanceOver the period of 2 years
>>43406047Kaichou has nothing in that aspect compared to mike.Bitch's literally collecting brand bags while Coco bought a fucking mattress.
>>43405446Honestly, if we look at the profit ratio of anycolor vs cover. You could immediately conclude that. For example in 2021 anycolor had $50m in revenue but had $13m in profit, whereas in 2022, cover had 100m in revenues but had $11m in profit. It means that there is something cover is paying a lot to. And I think it would be the talents, just look at this >>43405305 they get a cut on everything
>>43405867Is Salome still averaging 5views? She is hitting 4views multiple times nowadays.
>>43406122why she getting cancel from just playing bioshock 4?
>>43406002She wants to end the number poison.
>>43406122Everything offends everyone in the West. Everything is a """"microaggression""" its so stupid
>>43406122Only the weak get cancelled. It's unironically, literally a choice.Just have your mods ban them on sight and block them on twitter. It's that easy.
>>43406054It's a good thing he didn't or we'd end up with another argument about the validity of streams including fleshtubers
>>43406099why is she like this??
>>43406152he meant>5kNot 5view.
>>43406154Game seems to be funded by the Russian state.
>>43404395what kind of copium is this retarded author on? Everything he states seems wrong
>>43406122>>43406050again and again, this is what happens if you pander to the Twitter crowd. They're your most loyal fans one day, the next day they would try to cancel you
>>43406072I don't know, I don't keep track of nijiKr before the merger
>>43405750They're given that assignment because they're one of the few nijis which can actually pull decent numbers. I can't wait for the new studio to be build so that more sololives and concerts will be maade for the holos
>>43405524everyone is looking at suisei and izuru's legs
>>43406154>People were mad about the wizard game because buying it indirectly gave money to JK Rowling>Buying Atomic Heart indirectly gives money to the Russian government while the US is in a proxy war with them
>>43405564Some holos will die. Many of them are not in shape at all.
>>43406154Atomic Hard's maker are Russian gov shill that using gov's funds to spread russian propaganda.Even Mick Gordon who do the music for the game need to announced all profit from the works will goes to Ukrainian support.
>>43406122There were only a handful of disapproving comments under her schedule tweet, I don't think it'll be bad
>>43406145Anon, just the ratio of Cover having less talents already proves that whatever niji is cooking up isnt an efficient marketing strategy. Niji putting all of their eggs into new debuts with subpar merch/sponsorships while Coveer is diversifying to reduce the risks and is able to get revenues aside from the talents
>>43404936Female spends more than males almost everytime anon. That's a general trend.Which is why you see NijiJP getting 200k USD for male 3D debuts and Anycolor having 50% more merch sales than Cover despite selling cheap plastics.Also it's no secret that Cover had been aiming for the female audience via tempus/uproar and stars shilling in general.
>>43406072I don't know, I don't keep track of nijiKr before the merger.Not that it matters anyway because KR waves didn't really factor into the japanese consciousness pre merger with the exception of a few talents who could speak nip
T in LGBT stands for T3MPUS
>>43406050I thought she had a minor drama.
>>43406219Selen is chinese you mutt
>>43406173>Literally the real leech AND PEOPLE CALL MY OSHI A LEECHING WHORE LMAO
>>43406173probably her manager handling that
>>43406188theres nothing wrong on that??? people nowadays overact in everything
>>43406122Atomic Heart is a game Gura actually wants to play....this is going to be interesting
>>43406243The latest KR waves are KR in name only.In practice they also target the JP market by speaking japanese more often than korean.
>>43404792>>43405305See also picrelSCs + membership + ad revenue + music (¥5.2m) collectively is less than 40% of their total revenue (¥13.7m)and it's pretty likely that SC revenue (some % of ¥5.2m) is significantly less than merchandise revenue (¥4.8m)In theory, you could add up all the recorded SCs from playboard/hololyzer for the fiscal year, increase by some amount to estimate SCs from members-only streams (say +10%), multiply by 35% for Cover's supposed cut to estimate the actual SC revenueOn the other hand, I'm pretty sure this category of their revenue (plus maybe licensing?) has higher profit margins (probably close to pure profit) than events and merchandising
>>43406266So you haven't spent much time in pol huh?
>>43406238ok but it's still completely valid to ignore themHololive is always going to appeal more to men, and focusing on holostars has a demonstrable history of damaging their reputation with the customers they already have
>>43403740He didnt manage to leech enough
I hope Botan would play Atomic heart so I can watch lion mommy with robo mommy on stream.
>>43406266Ruski bro, I', surprised you could still access this board.
>>43406173oh no, it's real. Roboco-fans, whatever they are called, please explain?
Are you holofaggots ready for the western world to be blackpilled into hating idols even more??!!!https://twitter.com/anime_oshinoko/status/1627291917544464386
>>43405075Cover's average annual salary is only around 38k USD anon. He's not paying much for the common staff
>>43406322well, she will play Tarkov tomorrow with Korone
>>43406122>>Selen's about to get canceled for playing Atomic HeartWhy? What's wrong with this game?
>Mori watches OnimaiAIIIEEEE TWITTERFAGS, HOW DARE SHE
>>43406342lmao good luck with that nigger
>>43406342>AnimeOh no no no no
fyi atomic heart is coming in feb 21
>>43405823>No no no it didn't get cancelledThe livers said it was delayed and it will be back.>The company is just lying for no reasonThey are not. That particular form of the AR live being held in April called Colors was cnacelled. A different one will grow from it's ashes.>And the livers are also lying about taking breaksThey are not. They are taking breaks from streaming, they are still recording but are keeping it hush hush.
>>43406154Slavs fighting each other again and they have to make that the entire world's problem
>>43406342Can't wait to see the "Lie" argument being used over and over again
>>43406342nigga i think you're missing the point of that mango
>>43406173Honorary HoloEN kek
>>43406342>Aka shitkimoi~
>>43406225wow Mick really became a pussy. had no problem upsetting the cringe christians with doom but falters to todays retards
>>43406246LuxiemGayBangingT3MPUS
>>43406284Cover will be booking 70% of the superchats (minus sales tax where applicable) as revenue, the share they pay out to talents will fall under talent compensationI would be surprised if superchats were even half of their youtube revenue these days in any case
>>434052082 days in a row she was stopped at 19k. Good, the towa first army meme is boring. Glad she is not reaching 20k on purpose.
Don't ever reply to me again, nijinigger.
>>43406314>Cover profit rises YoY>Cover mindshare rises YoYBut sure anon, clearly you have better insight and business acumen than fucking Yagoo
You guys are arguing about the most neutral articles ever>Niji is currently earning more FOR NOW>Hololive are not earning more BUT they have more potential for growth
>>43404395>but it is strongly dependent on spacha and secondary creation culture, and is one year behind Nijisanji in merchandise development.What? That is utter bullshit lol
I always find it funny that NijiEN fags on twitter have the most to say about Holo when their favorite branch is literally on fire and their number is in the sewer
>>43406342rip holoen
>>43406342I like oshi no ko and hololive
how is mori number ? it feels slightly higher than usual
>>43406322No, She will play S.T.A.L.K.E.R.2 Instead
>>43406342Western world watch shonen, not this edgy shit
>>43406437The grass is greener on the other side and they simply cannot allow it
>>43406423Holostars have grown on their own merit, but much slower than hololive, and every time they're forced into mixed content there's complaintsBasically what I'm saying is they already ARE trying to appeal to female customers, and there's nothing they can really do to accelerate that that won't piss people off
>>43406342>holobegging for an anisongyou disappoint me poster with an aqua profile pic
>>43400604the fuck that even mean. by all means main branch is JP, not just the most popular membersAnd nothing of what you said about literal whos make any sense, stop applying logic from this thread on things like that.
>>43406154An Ukrainian made a 20 minutes video seething about the game on Youtube, went as far as sexualization of lesbians with the sex robots, a pretty funny watch if you ask me
>>43406342Man i can already see retards saying "it's like vtubers on hololive with there idol shit"
>>43406469Those with strong opinion about hololive and idols will most definitely cite this show constantly
>>43406342The same way Bakuman made every 13 years old think that they can become a mangaka, this will make every anti idol twitter user think that they know everything about idols
>>43406349Are you sure that's THE Cover corp and not some other similarly-named company?Because unless Cover literally paid each Holomen a million bucks, it still come short of their 2021 expenses.
Seems like all Luxiem are becoming 2k shittersBut I won't shit on Ike like I did to mysta and vox because he doesn't fujo baiting, he doesn't only do buff content, he isn't a numberfagHe's the only good Luxiem
No seriously, when was the last time a NijiEN collabed with a NijiJP?
>>43406394Didn't the author portrait the lying thing to be in gray area? The good part that he describe is that "Idol want their audience to be happy, so they lied to keep it"
>>43406528and they will be outed as nijiniggers like every single one that criticize Holo's idol culture so farI guaranteed it
>>43406342I wonder how many Holos and Nijis will do covers of the opening
>>43406256Worse yet. She's a leaf.
>>43406384do you people ever think what is the point keeping it secret ?
>>43406499Diversification, retard-bro.Same reason why Cover pushed for game development.Do you think Hololive Error is really that profitable?
>>43406568a few days ago, gyaru with a low tier niji
>>43406514>sexualization of lesbiansWhat's wrong with that?
>>43406138Lui, Chloe, and Gozaru isn't a 10k streamer. That's like saying Sora is a 10k+ streamer if she spams Holocure every stream.They are 10k+ streamer if they can average 10k+ on a single player non buff game reliably
>>43406501Holy cringe i was also hoping for templete but this shit is given me second hand embarrassment
Have an early lewd since I'm going to bed soon.
>>43406561> big ESLThere is no good luxiem sister.
>>43404780You meant capitalist?
>>43406561Don't worry, I'll shit on him>2.5k on CN primetime AHAHAHAHAHA irrelevant blue faggot isn't even a good singer nor he can get decent numbers
>>43406577Hacka is a nijinigger, so he will choose livers from Niji
Fubuki with the ultimate clickbait thumbnail
>>43406577it's a banger, i bet ayase use his experience with suisei to make the song.
>>43406342>oshi no koits over idol faggots
>>43406424Which article are you citing?The article being circulated /here/ have inaccuracies. Hololive is not heavily reliant on SC anymore.
>>43406598then lauren is out in your category
>>43404991Please kys
>>43406575Thinking about it now, if things go well, it might lead to those "muh idol culture" retards to be filtered if they try to attack the talents
>>43404484that's litearlly not how any of this works. Members get money from SC, streamlabs, voice packs, merch, sponsorship and many other avenues. Its not a coincidence how many members became full time to the point they could abandon their old job. in EN alone 95% of them are full time, with only 2 not, and both of those are students.
>>43406099anon, It's a bunch of pngs clipped to her model
>>43406598same goes for lauren and salome, they're both playing buff ass games for numbers too and have shit numbers with shit games, no?
>>43406598Then Lauren or Salami aren't 10k streamers either
>>43406238>NijiJP getting 200k USD for male 3D debutskek dont look at holos merch runs anon, low tiers like choco and akirose make 200k from their birthday/anni merch alone twice every year. And they keep most of the cut for those.
>>43405524Unicorns watch the whole thing live, probably multiple times after. Homobeggars skip the stream and jack off to the timestamp where they can pretend a win from toxic incels
>>43406614Do you think capitalists would pay their worker well, burger-kun?No, capitalist would rather buy 3rd yacht than pay their worker sufficient wage.
>>43406592https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At_pbuiimK0> Narusewell damnI guess JPs stick together
>>43406456pretty typical for her zatsu
LUXIEM THIS, LUXIEM THAT. BITCH CANT YOU SHUTT UP FOR ONCE? IT FEELS LIKE YOU ARE MORE INTERESTED IN LUXIEM MORE THAN YOUR OSHI
>>43406654Found the indentured wage slave.
>>43406437I always find funny Holofags do the same on twitter and drama channels. vtmemes, Kris holofan or whatever the fuck his name is and a bunch of holo accounts are always out ther talking about nijien and nijisanji
>>43406725/#/ is my oshi. /#/ is a slut
>>43406664well she can attach pngs to a 3d model now so that's new I think
>>43406663You must have missed the part noting that Cover's expenditure on talent compensation was about double that of Anycolor despite them having half the number of talents (ie the per-member average is about 4x)
>>43406725But anonchama luxiem IS my oshi
>>43405524That Kinema section is kino af, anyone that says otherwise is a faggot.
>>43406598Chloe and Iroha are both 10k streamer.
kek this looks like a scene straight out of anime
>>43406342hack author for retarded sheep
>>43406748you sure you're not projecting there?
>>43406598Gozaru is more of a 10k streamer then Nipple boy and Salami
>>43405662>late stage capitalismWe dont even have early stage capitalism underagechama...
>>43406725>/#/ having oshi>/#/ watching vtuber
>>43406423Prove that profit and mindshare rising YoY is driven by female fans
>>43406687Sure they do, if they fund the merch. If they dont, they earn less. Same happens in nijisanji btw, if you do custom merch.
>>43406528>citing a made up storynice, so not much different from what we see them do right now kek
>>43406748>drama channels. vtmemes, Kris holofanit's your fault following and watching these faggots' content
>chloe and iroha arent 10k streamers>lauren and salome are 10k streamersroru
>>43406781Industrial Revolution is the first stage of capitalism anon.
>>43405918No one is better than aqua
salamibros it's over
>>43406633Am i the only one who think it will boost hololive more
>>43406760You also must have missed plenty of members out there earning money to live with just this job.
>>43406707Maybe they shouldn't
>>43406801You're the one arguing that Stars devalues Holopro brand, retard.Yet in reality we are seeing Cover getting record profit. If Stars really is toxic to HoloPro brand we'd see stagnation or even decrease compared to 2020-2021 period.
>>43406276>guragood luck to them, anon
>>43406823No it’s the agricultural revolution
>>43406054He's leeching flesh streamers now...GRIM even for the leechking.
>>43406778No, im nothttps://twitter.com/KHolosimp
>>43406598since when does chloe isn't a 10k streamer, maybe yes is you're only counting the sc reading
>>43406867
>>43406173If she's that desperate for viewers why doesn't she stop playing shitty FPS games?
>[EN][TL] Calli -- There's going to be a guest that will asbolutely make everyone happy. It ain';t YAGOO. Might not even be limited to Holo!
>>43406673>>43406672>>43406650Lauren averaged well above 10k for Hogwarts as well as Salome's last single player game (DGR)
>>43406589>Do you think Hololive Error is really that profitable?GRIM
>>43406907>Might not even be limited to Holo!For fucks sake
Oshi no ko probably will bring more casuals to watch Hololive, especially Aki, Korone, and Azki.Hololive can't stop winning
>>43406907She's gonna have stars on again.
>>43406584Prematurely announcing something. They are being super secret about it to avoid people getting to excited too soon. They are recording, that mush we do know.
>>43406883Which agricultural revolution tho?The fertile crescent one or the rise of the serf class?
>>43406907Ado
>>43406820If La+ didn't kill herself, HoloX will have 4/5 are 10k streamers. Quite impressive
>>43406907
>>43406909you fucking faggot. we can check the numbers.. please kys. only the 1st stream was 10k+ for lauren and salome hit multiple sub 10k for DGR
>>43406874So you can't prove that pandering to female fans is the reason for profit growth and that Cover wouldn't have had even greater profit if they didn't cripple themselves trying to promote the boys? Concession accepted.
>>43406568Fuwa, Hayato, Mikoto, Oliver, Chigusa and Albio all met with the NijiEN who were in Japan.other than that, last one was Kotoka with Naruse, before that iirc it was Kotoka with Ange and Himawari playing ark, Petra and Meloco with Muyu
>>43406907Another Mori arc in the catalog lets-a-go!
>>43406937I didn't know OnK was about vtubers
>>43406926It's basically a test case for Cover own universe and world building, and in that aspect they did a decent job.
>>43406401Isn't Doom literally the most Christian games ever? When Mick was making music for it he literally mixed praise Jesus/God into one of the tracks.
>>43406907finally, all the time and effort Kson put to groom Mori will pay off
>>43406888>nowone of his biggest streams in...fuck 2021? was him playing amogus with some 3dp cellebs including the nip cuck that owns this shithole
>>43406989about idols but it has a mini vtuber arc
Anons need to realize that unlike NijiEN boys who mostly have female fans, in NijiJP, their fans are boys and girls, its much more mixed in demographics.
>>43406342I believe the author is a ccp plant intended to undermine hololive's influence.
>>43406966Can you prove your own hypothesis faggot?All you have is bunch of what-ifs scenario, meanwhile we're seeing the results of Yagoo labor.
>>43406989anon... OnK literally has a chapter mocking nijisanji for saturating the vtubing market..
>>43406561>Homos getting sub 3k at CN primetimeCope
>>43407026Yeah but the anime won't go that far
>>43406937What's the deal with those three? hag? Did you miss Mio?
>>43407049It's also written by Aka Akasaka.
Is the Niji samurai here? I feel like it’s always JP time when he appears
>>43406974did the larger clique stop collabing? iirc Elira, Finana, Millie etc. used to collab with Nagao, Oliver and a few others.
>>43406851Ai's philosophy would be a plus for Holo.His view on Vtuber would be a minus (for the whole Corpo Vtuber industry even).Idol's dating would be hard to know.
>>43406561imagine pandering to the most fickle country, anycolor has zero strategic thinking
>>43407002thats why i said cringe christians the kinda that argued D&D and Harry Potter would teach their kinds to summon demons
>>43406966>concessionoh look it's that faggot
>>43407045>mocking nijisanjiThat's reaching, specially since it's well known that Aka is a nijifag who's even played together with some of them
Why does Roboco have such an ADHD inducing BGM?
>>43406907Well it’s Mori, I dunno what everyone expect
>>43407037You just need to look at the debut of Tempus instead of EN3 to see an example of missed profit in action. The "results" of Yagoo's labour is carried entirely by the girls so nothing about it proves your insistence that the boys are making the company more successful.
>>43406401there's a difference between upsetting fringe Christians who would never become any legit power and potentially upsetting the us government and being labeled a traitor funneling money to the russians anon
>>43407031Hackasaka aka is literally a confirmed cocofag anon.
>>43407070He can't use JP cope today anon.
>>43406725The Luxiem YouTube channel is my oshi, it got some cripple golds.
>>43406907If it's ironmouse.. I'll... Nevermind, already blocked mori on youtube ands twitter ands report her videos and clips rrecommended to me
>>43406937Suisei
>>43406907100% Ironmouse, who else could it be
>>43406907Don't tell me it's KSON....
>>43406804lol anon everything a niji does goes to anycolors pocket, custom merch included. Unless you are talking about some roomate merch that some may do
>>43407107>missed profit in actionroruyou should write academic paper anon, so people could laugh at your cope.
was ina's 3d as good as lamy's??
>>43406692Yes? A socialist buys everything for themselves only and practice nepotism. There is no better system than capitalism you commie scum.
>>43406907Didn't she say something about doing soemthing with boogey voxx? Maybe it's that
>Literally drinking collab>Mori will not invite RoberuFuck the bitch
>>43407108i refuse to believe that the world is this retarded already
Imagine Iron Mouse and your favorite JP oshi sharing the same space at Mori’s 3D showcase
>>43407161keep that bitch away from my sont.bae
>>43407145Still no proof that attracting female fans was what gave Cover record profits? Okay.
>>43407154>socialist>commieUnderage burger-kun...Heck, you have your own homegrown socialist in the shape of Bernie-fucking-Sanders.
>>43406731Ironic
>>43406342>Kana seiyuu is a haglmao Kanafags eating another big L after last chapter
>>43406926also who fucking was it
>>43406926It's a shit game but it still sold because it has merch released with it. So fans just did it to buy the merch I would assume
>>43407177
>>43407185Mori said that the guest would make everyone happy, and Iron Mouse wouldn't make me happy so it's not her
>>43407159they gonna disband soon, so no.>>43407135possible
>>43406926Considering the set including the physical goods were available on the Holo shop prior to it being on steam......
>>43406907Amalee I guess
god it's gonna be ironlung isn't it?i'd be happier if it's a male.those vshowhores don't deserve any more attention.
>>43406823Retard
>>43407229It could always be some kind of last show kinda thingAlso isn't the girl still gonna continue vtubing?
>>43407217
>>43407185well I dont see any big problem with Iron mouse... she knows the rules and tries to stay in her lane
>>43407207The proof is in their financial paper.Meanwhile all you have is a what-if scenario and not even the good one.Case closed.
>>43405880She probably forgot because it was initially announced around Sana's graduationhttps://twitter.com/Tsukumo_netshop/status/1552836310536036353
>>43406907>2 year late Myth 3D>let me shill my non-Holo leech friendsMori never disappoints
Everyone already forgot about milkyqueen huh?
I feel like Holofags are allergic to the fact that Anykara might treat their talents the same as Cover treats their talents. Why are you frothing at the mouth proving Anykara í the bad guy?
>>43403472Anon in theory Stars supposed to be male idols and the JP branch seem to play that part pretty well, if they don't they end up fired like Kaoru. Cover seem to have problems with shaping Tempus the same way though because this guys want to be like normie twitch streamers or nijis.
>>43407207Attracting female fan would give them record profit for sure. But it ain't gonna be from the Homo. Marine has 20% female viewer. Pretty sure Stars combined can't even reach those 20%.
>>43407208NTA. Bernie boy praised Venezuela but he backtracked when it went to shit. I cannot take his endorsements seriously if he is like that.
>>43407295>Non HoloWhat if it's Nano?
>>43406907>will asbolutely make everyone happyThat was a lie.
>>43407303she has 3D?
>>43405286kys nijinniger
Ironmouse Kson in mori 3D showcase let's go
>>43406122And other lies holofags tell themselves
>>43407304But the numbers posted in this thread show Cover pays theirs 4x as much?
>>43407339anon she's 3d in that pic what is that question
>>43407304Because they don't
>>43407338I mean Ado would make everyone happy right?Maybe it's her
>>43406989It's not but funny enough Aka loves Vtubers and Hololive funny enough.
>>43407304once a black company, always a black company
>>43407275Their financial paper? Go ahead and cite the part where female fans watching holostars drove record profits.
>43407304>I feelI know, sister.
>>43407319You should go find out first under what circumstances he praised Venezuela anon.I can't stress this to you enough, capitalist is not your friend.
has anyone ever had non holo on their 3D showcase before?
>>43407275nta but are you seriously trying to justify the homos existence?
>>43407304Because they got nothing better to do. So do yourself a favour and ignore stupid stuff here
So can we post Ina lewds now?
>>43407342create a HoloEN x Vwhorejo branch at this point. Also, no point staying in Hololive if outsiders can leech this easily
>>43406907>will asbolutely make everyone happy>not a holoi highly doubt it will make everyone happy kek, mori is going to be retarded again
ok, here's some number. since fucking when did holocure become THE top rated game on itch.io? it's actually way more popular than i thought
>>43407099But nijisanji want to go hard into the idol part of vtubing copying hololive.
>>43407361pretty sure he's a hardcore mitofag (he used to love coco back then though, I remember him taking a break when she announced her graduation)
>NONONO THE PROFIT CAME FROM THE HOMOReally?
>>43407391>ccvI know this is /#/ but it doesn't really equates to profit anon.
>>43406942so you're saying the concert is not fully planned/realized and so they can't hype the shit up even though they already fly their talents to japan for recording ? are they retarded ?
>>43407402Go ahead if you like, might make the sisters go away immediately
>>43407099Aka is a giant unity fag more than anything since their a night enough fan of Hololive to drop some cameo references into the manga
>>43407304>Have 200+ talents>Pays less than cover who only has 70+As they said, they're an entertainment "factory"
>>43406907https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaKxJVeVIZUTOMAYO would be pretty sick. I think they have talked about being relatively close friends.
>>43407402Salome 23 faggot , you will get mogged
>>43407422A bunch of people who've never watched hololive played it too since it's a free, better version of vampire survivors
>>43406639He explicitly said that he doesn't know much about hololive but are willing to be corrected for inaccuracies. He seems pretty active on the comment section of his video, maybe someone else has pointed that out to him.Anyway, what he's inaccurately comparing is most likely the Content/Stream sales in which it is true that Cover has stronger sales on that front.What he probably doesn't understand is that Content/Stream includes ad rev + premium + membership on top of SC, and how much of the value were from 'unreliable' sources like SC can be crosschecked from sites like hololyzer and playboard.
>>43407366Go ahead and cite the part where Stars affect Cover bottom line.
>>43407445
>>43407109Why does he shit on hololive and idol culture then?
>>43407393It said this while arguing and posting here. Ironic.
>>43406659you mean twitter trannies seething and screaming as always. Nothing new.
>>43407435You want to go with sub then? Cuz that the thing they shill the most in their report.
>>43407454It isnt even comparable to vampire survivors. Vs is like a dopamine farm number go up become god simulator. Holocure requires you to pay attention and play
>>43407470retard
>ike 3k now>b-but l-l-l-luxiem a-are 2k s-shitter n-now i-i s-swear n-nooo
>>43406907SHE'S IN
>>43407470Where does he shit on Idol culture anon?OnK is literally about idol journey and revenge story
>>43407304The treatment of literally all their foreign branches and main branch shitters tell me otherwise
shrek would also make everyone happy right?maybe he's the special guest
>>43407470because he is a confirmed cocofag anon
>>43407386If they cannot maintain such circumstances, it is a failure. We cannot just replicate things that are proven to be fragile.I know capitalism is not my friend, but so is socialism.
>>43407495That's why it's better, it has actual mechanics
>>43407208Underage commie faggot you think socialism works, you have no right to call others underage.
>>43406907Mori, you retard. Make it your 3d showcase with Holo guests only first and then save the non-holos for your anniversary or whatever your next 3d stream would be
>>43407483Sure, investors prefers subs anyway than easily-fucked CCV
>>43406687Anycolor still have 50% more merch sales than Cover, that's before any cut/profit sharing between talents.What's your point?
Oh, Scarle had a birthday countdown no one cared about.
Why the fuck the Chinaman didnt did the 70k stream today? Letting a enshart winning is unforgivable
Is Zaion free yet
So i decided to do my dox reps and become a doxxnigger. After some consideration here are my final ratings for their looks:EN RM LOOKS RATINGS OLD NON FAT MORI - 8/10NEW FAT MORI - 2/10UNDERAGE GURA - 7.5/10GURA (FACEBOOK) - 5/10BAE (2018 PARTY) - 9/10UNDERAGE BAE - 7/10UNDERAGE MUMEI - 6/10MUMEI (2020/21 GLOW UP) - 9/10FAUNA - 6/10 (NEED TO SEE FACE, nice dresses tho)IRYS - 6/10 (NEED TO SEE FACE)KRONII (NO GLASSES) - 8/10KRONII (GLASSES) - 7.5/10KIARA (UNDERAGE) - 4/10 KIARA (2020 AND ONWARDS) - 7.5/10INA - 6/10 AME - 7/10AME (BLACK DUDE BESIDE) - 4/10SANA - 3/10 The girls are pretty cute on average. The only ones that don't look that great atm are current Mori, Sana and Ina (not sure when her pics were from). I found that majority of the uglier pictures of the girls were a long time ago (Kiara and Mumei especially have like dox from 2013/14 with Kiara having pics even older than that). I wish to see more of Fauna and IRyS, they have potential to be really cute. Gura has like no pics out there sadly and the ones that are out there are pretty bad. Bae screams "fuck me" energy, and she would probably be my #1. Mumei too but she's autistic and dutch, not putting my dick in her. Mori is the only one that has actually regressed in looks. Ina, Kiara and Ame are just average asians, yuros and latinas. Kronii looks really good but i need more pics.
>>43407304cause they don't? we are not the same dawg
>>43407387I'm pretty sure Matsuri had Sara on for hers
>>43407559Retard, you aren't supposed to give in to subs of all the fucking things if you are going to run defense for the homos
>>43407542You couldn't even differentiate between socialism and communism kiddo. What the fuck did they teach you in school?
>>43407386Lol because a socialist who lives in a mansion is? Lmao
>>43407588kys
I like how Homobeggar concede that “The Homo at least didn’t affect Hololive”. They don’t even argue that they are doing good anymore
>>43407588kys doxxfaggot
>>43407572Why do they get paid 50% less then?
>>43407304>protecting riku's yacht
>>43407422Holocure has basically been catching on as a legitimate Vampire Survivors alternative.
>>43407574was it a handcam?
>>43407618>You know, at least the parasite isn't hurting you
>>43407601Anon, investors only need to see that most of HoloPro has passed 100k.I'm not even running defense for homos, we literally have multiple proofs about this during Anycolor IPO.
>>43407588do everyone and your dead parents a favor and kill yourself.
>>43407572Anycolor doesn't share that profit with the talent since it's all cookie-cutter shit which they take all the profit from.
>>43407069What does that have to do with Vtubers?
>>43407466You're the one who brought up record profits and mindshare, you should probably prepare the proof that holostars had anything to do with that first. Besides, common sense about studio space and time already lets us know that every single stars 3D and concert that doesn't even break 10k viewers and does nothing to grow Cover's share of the market is delaying or even shutting out hololive events that would easily be an order of magnitude more popular.
So wait why do you guys ignore the kiara copypasta but not this copypasta?
nice thread
>>43407509>he thinks twitter troons will understand that
>>43407681He literally put bunch of chuubas reference in Kaguya-sama, including sankisei and Coco.
>>43407445Over or under 10k?
>>43407572Both companies had around the same sales profit anon. Cover would even have been ahead if they hadn't fired RushiaThe difference is where the money goes after that, with Cover spending significantly more on talent compensation and growth, while Anycolor spends more on things like buying Riku a yacht and a house in the Bahamas
>>43407705>He thinks twitter troons matter
>DeletedInteresting
>>43407436They want to recordings and the 3D models all done first.
>>43407304Didn't Shiba from NijiJP need to beg on stream for her hospital bills?
>>43407519or adam sandler
>>43407466A 2 view shitter wouldn't affect the cover bottom line, let alone a group of 3 views. They wouldn't affect holo for sure, which is why Yagoo can prioritise them as much as the girls. But damn you're delusional if you think female star fan is the driving force for these "record breaking", if anything it would be female audience from Suisei, Marine.
>>43407495That's why it's catching on. Holocure requires you to actually play while still hitting that dopamine once you get your power spikes in-game
>>43407458I guess he has to revise his article. If it is just a harmless blog, I can cut him some slack.But still, he published such article without digging deeper about what he is writing. He has to be more careful next time or else retards may gang up against him.
>>43406926Eh it did preety good for what it was they did a physical horror house for it which booked out fully and also probably did good on merchs remember that cover is literally the only vtuber agency doing it this is baby steps
>>43407688Faggot, you're the one arguing about how Stars existence is devaluing HoloPro brand, and when I as you for proof all you have is shit like>Missed profit in action.I seriously hope they don't put you anywhere near decision-making post given how shitty your hypotheses are, that's it if you even old enough to work anyway.
>>43407503Would she join a Hololive 3D stream at Hololive's studio is asked?
>>43407605Pfffffffff he thinks there is a differrenceKys
>>43407731never said they do, theyre just annoying
I don't know what the sister is seething about but there is no way trannies are buying homo merch
>>43407588Kys faggot
>>43407776I'm not the one claiming that Stars fans are what driving Cover record profit, retard-bro. I'm arguing that the whatever negative Stars have on HoloPro brand is miniscule at most and nonexistent at the very least.
>kyswhat does it mean?
>>43407793Not even the same person though, but keep being retarded if you want to think holostars are responsible for>Cover profit rises YoY>Cover mindshare rises YoY
>>43407839Their doxx site got shut down and they can't talk about roommate shit here so they fall back on the default, seething about blue dorito
>>43407787The game was launched on the Holo website way before and let's be honest, the game is completely trash. Almost all the people who bought the game are fans that had already bought it and those sales can't be checked
Why do they always resort to doxxing?
>>43407866
>>43407866Are we really having this much of a newfag?
>>43407881>>43407865No one is insane enough to argue about how popular stars are. Your reading comprehension anon.
>>43407921why do you think we call them niggers?
>>43407866kiss you sister
>>43407668>most of HoloPro has passed 100k.This sounds fucking pathetic somehow. Especially post 2021 when they got shoved in the eyes of hundreds of thousands new audience everyday. How many leeches haven't passed 100k again?
>>43407177Anon, take a look at this very thread, and then remind yourself that there are people who're stupider than retards /here/
>>43407921They hang out on doxx sites so
>>43407866kek you silly
no numbers to discuss. Rest of the Myth guest prediction?Kiara - Pekora, Nene, SubaruMori - Suisei + nonholos so who tf caresGura - Marine, Shion, OkayuAme - Polka, Choco, Koyori
>>43407832What the fuck does that have to do with OnK?
>>43407422this is the power of hololive
>>43407934it's more like everyone said kys and the anon that asked said the full words.probably thinks he might get a mini vacation
Is Cover the only vtuber company to innovate and step out of their box? No other companies even try to replicate what Cover and Hololive are doing.
>>43407866kiss yourself
>>43407793NTA but you have to be retarded to genuinely believe that stars is a toxic branding that devalues the entire brand.The fact that Cover explicitly avoids using a multiple years old established branding for Uproar/Tempus and instead goes with something completely different is evidence of this.
>>43407971Uyu and 2/4 of Vanguard I think?.Also if you think that's pathetic, don't look at Nijisanji's subs.
>>43407754It cracked me up a bit.
>>43407304>í... Turn off your fucking TELEX next time bro
>>43407866kimetsu yaiba second
>>43407317>Marine has 20% female viewerNo she doesn't. Marine barely has any female fans, fan events prove this.
>>43407948Clearly someone is insane enough to claim that because of >>43406238 Cover should keep aiming to grow the female audience and that Yagoo's genius in shilling the holostars is working out
>>43406907Come on Mori, invite Silvervale instead of IM
>>43407339Blindchama ...
>>434080484/4. 2 are getting close, but still didn't pass 100k
>>43408108>marine herself is wrong>im right
>>43407931IRyS' kimono is pretty good, but the fact that it came in so late makes it kinda forgettable.
>>43407866if someone is sending this to you then that means they are inciting you to suicide
>>43408108Oh marineschizo woke up from his tranny surgery, how was it?
>>43408046Are you agreeing with me or not here, I can't even tell.I believe the HoloPro brand is too strong and whatever negative stigma attaches to it whether it's due to chinkout, Rushia's firing, and/or Stars is not enough to devalue it.
Now looking back at Hololive talents, the one who make it to JP first army or the successful one on EN branch>Hard worker>Used to be a troll>Had past of getting bullied>loner introvert(not a must but majority of them)>Autistic>casual weeb but neutral instead of having negative statement(Shuba)So the first step to get a potential breakout talents for Hololive is by eliminating every available indies or full time twitch whores on internet
>>43408151>Marine is honest
>>43408048That's the result of ACCELERATE anon. Not these fags, the whole company stops for them, the culture makes their name known whether the audience likes it or not.
>>43407999Pekora is more likely with Gura or Ame, Kiara bitched out
>>43408115That only works in Niji and other male idol shit like SutoPri.
LMAO the fake KFC leaks spreaded on catalog.