/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>43403094
Recent clip numbers
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>>43400968

/#/ is reclining in quality

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>82,391: Marine (Hololive)
>30,999: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>30,598: Koyori (Hololive)
>30,188: Gura (Hololive)
>25,421: Salome (Nijisanji)
>25,354: Chloe (Hololive)
>24,514: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,389: Miko (Hololive)
>21,666: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,412: Towa (Hololive)
>14,312: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,025: Botan (Hololive)
>13,612: Hololive (Hololive)
>13,198: Subaru (Hololive)
>12,839: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,811: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,682: Karuta (Nijisanji)
>10,554: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,511: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,447: Luna (Hololive)

>>43403094
This thread

is kaf suisei-tier yet?

Sus

>>43403170
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy
16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal
17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream
18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi

>PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
35x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
4x: Marine
3x: Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>>43403089
>>43403025
>looks emptier and deader than the Luxiem cafe
>NijiEN got cafes in Japan, Malaysia and Taiwan while Hololive only got cafes in Taiwan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moU_n5J-gh0

see that line sisters?

>>43402979
If EN and tempus are sharing recruiters and the main reason EN3 hasn't been hired is because their too busy chasing homo ass for a whole year...

>>43403207
>replying to frenchie bait
Anon...

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/18 DAILY TALLY
30,174: Gura (Hololive)
9,418: Amelia (Hololive)
7,985: Millie (Nijisanji)
6,307: Uki (Nijisanji)
6,145: Ike (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft
17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke
18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mori
3x: Baelz
2x: Amelia, Fauna, IRyS, Gura
1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
24p: Mori
21p: Baelz
17p: IRyS
15p: Fauna
14p: Mumei, Amelia
12p: Ina
10p: Gura
7p: Kronii, Vox
5p: Kiara
4p: Vesper
3p: Uki, Luca, Magni
1p: Mysta, Millie

>>43403207
it's a retard bait you idiot

>>43403094
NEWS ANCHOR
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from last thread:
>Ina showcased her 3D model https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cc16ZBW0GY
>idol EN 2 lineup confirmed https://twitter.com/AvielBasin/status/1627226757077114882

GRIM

Holy shit, hlgg has a fucking Gura porn pic for the OP and it's still here

>>43403251
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
31x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori
4x: Baelz
3x: Mysta, Ina, IRyS
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Fauna, Gura
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
46p: Mumei
38p: Ina
33p: IRyS
32p: Fauna, Amelia
29p: Baelz, Mori
26p: Vox
23p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kiara
10p: Pomu, Gura
9p: Millie
8p: Ike
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana
4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>43403223
I believe recruiter falls under management so both stars and holo has their own recruiters.
Dunno about overseas branch like EN tho

>HoloEN connect likely to just be a side show for a main event
>NijiEN AR live still gonna happen

>>43403282
BASED BASED BASED

who said yesterday that he would be happy to welcome the sisters on /vt/ after the massive exodus from the doxx site

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

>>43403282
Fucking niji meidos is at it again

>nijinigger memes that aged like milk

>>43403293
You really need to let that AR thing go....

>HOLOLIVE BTFO!
How do you even respond?

>>43403307
Obviously nijiniggers would love to have more back up

... i'm declining

>>43403177
Kaf is Aqua tier in which Suisei want to rape them both.

>>43403315
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

>>43403329
who?

>>43403282
Should we do the same? It feels wrong having global out cunny us.

>>43403322
I would if it was gone. It isn't. Something is happening. Most NijiEN fans agree with me.

>>43403344
Rated: True

>>43403275
It's cute but I honestly hate most of the logos of holos with a passion. Cool itasha though still

>>43403318
Doesn't the document from Cover say that Yagoo has more money than Riku?

>>43403329
> B-but what about Hololive?!

>>43403329
>94 views
How do you even find this stuff

>>43403292
>both stars and holo has their own recruiters
How sure of that are you?

>>43403329
Siding with the same people that cancelled Zaion
nijis have no standards...

>>43403329
>try not to be friendly towards hostile elements
>panders to chinks
>panders to troons
ogey

>>43403378
not even a devout holofags will proclaim that
Riku simply have more money than yagoo

>>43403378
Cover has more warchest than Anycolor, but Riku has more stakes in the company than Yagoo

>>43403282
kek >>43402455

>>43403378
actually no, Yagoo earns 30 Million yen a year because he actually reinvests his earnings back into the company
Riku earns 50 billion because he's all about milking the company of all he can get away with before it folds

>>43403329
I'm so glad hogwarts filter them out, tranny can go watch nijien. let them ruin nijisanji
don't tell her nijisanji jp exist tho

>>43403318
Even if it's still true, I don't get why the meme is funny.

>>43403386
that sisters post her own tweet

Got banned for posting kson pics and now a R18 cunny stayed as an OP, fucking useless jannies but let that one stay up, I don't mind that one

>>43403432
Nijiniggers unironically cheer when Riku earns more money
I never thought this level of corporate bootlicking is even possible but there it is

>>43403329
not going to be surprised if these trannies already in line to debut for the upcoming NijiEN gens. Not gonna complain though, they'll implode sooner or later by hiring these faggots

>>43403430

>>43403442
Based janny!

>>43403388
It would make sense for them to have separate recruiters given the different traits and personalities they seek in each branch.
The only evidence to the contrary is how both Stars gen 1-3 and ID1 was interviewed by Yagoo

>ina doesn't have a big audience but they are the most dedicated ones in EN
Is this true?

>>43403442
why are you ban evading

>>43403455
I'm actually surprised that they haven't hired an open holo reject turned anti yet

>>43403329
I really want to know what she means by Hololive being friendly towards hostile elements in their fanbases. Just what is going on in their clique over there?

>>43403432
Nijiniggers like to suck riku's dick despite he almost contribute nothing to the liver's success. Not even scouting talent

>>43403329
How come anytime there's a drama in NijiEN, hololive somehow gets roped in?

>>43403476
dedicated to be the most boring hololive

>>43403506
because hololive lives rent free in the heads of nijiniggers

>>43403282
holy kek, chumkeks are unhinged after the gura daki release.

Pekora cat review stream, RIP Ina gold

>>43403506
RENT FREE

>>43403495
>hostile elements
In this case it's probably gachikois and people gatekeeping against the trannies and the anti lolis

>>43403506
REPEAT AFTER ME!
SUCCESS
BREED
JEALOUSY

>>43403506

https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849
https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849
https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849
https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849
PEKO GOLD

already trending despite it being two weeks away. If they announce EN3 in conjunction to this, it's over sisters...

>>43403520
>>43403418
Humans makes mistake

Nijiniggers worships the company more than Holo fans. Is there a reason why they have such a behavior?

>>43403522
>Pekora cat review stream
87k

>>43403537
So in the end, the discussion always goes back to "Idol culture". God, what a stupid boogieman

Leeching whore can't even reach 16k even after a nearly 8 hours of stream AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

>>43403561
post screenshot, I don't want to open twitter

>>43403581
It's the opposite anon.
The Box is not just a meme.

>>43403485
evade THIS!

>>43403600
who are you even talking about, spectrum90?

>>43403329
>>43403495
Hostile elements is code for "Gachikoi, lolicons, and other people I don't like"

>>43403561
but all of them have a pussy anon

>>43403506
Twitter anon, it's NijiENs breeding ground. Remember Zaion? They'll be bestfriends for one day, then they'll cancel each other the next day.

>>43403611
The box features the talents, nijisanji watchers shows up in droves to watch the company channel

>>43403626
>Hostile elements is code for...
customers

>mythfags overestimate Pekora's cat review stream to grudgepost later
you fuckers are so transparent

>>43403611
you say that but it's not holofags boasting about how much money Riku is making, and using that to say why Nijisanji is better

>>43403596
Nah, it's not that.
You know how edgy teens like to claim that their taste is better than others? That's the nijifag mentality.

>>43403673
holo vs holo. sisters are so transparent

Based holospy

HoloFes announment prediction, go!

>>43403626
So they're threatened every time Gura talks about how much she appreciates her Chumbuds for supporting her

so what happened to kuzu gold?

>>43403653
I mean, they have more than hundred of livers at this point. It's easier to watch them all together on Anycolor channel.

>>43403675
I doubt those were sincere and not ironic .

>>43403626
It has been said before:
>It's always hololive's fault somehow

>>43403047
The cafe Mori is referring to is the full EN collab one, not this mix with ID and Stars.

>>43403673
This you? >>43403329

>>43403561
Mori collab

>>43403741
see >>43403318

>>43403765
Mori is in Taiwan though

>>43403744
Reminds me of this thread sometimes

>>43403522
Bro she just gathering submission? No fucking way she asked for submission and do the stream in the same day

>>43403737
I hope it's something to do with HoloAlt. Just another animated music video is fine

>>43403522
Anon pls check the date.

>>43403618
ah the good old days

>>43403737
Day 1 EN3
Day 2 JP7

>>43403778
I bet this was made by the same people that said Riku keychain sold like hotcakes.

>>43403798
Japs always take pics of their cats anyway.

>>43403854
So, nijiniggers?

>>43403434
kek

>>43403841
Use the bait thumbnail version please

what did captcha mean by this: 8 WAH2

>>43403867
Worst, ironic nijifags.

>>43403867
Duh

>>43403843
double whammy at the biggest Hololive event of the year... Imagine the seethe it would generate! sisters...

>>43403856
She also taking submission from Holomen

Is it too early for HoloEarth Pre-Alpha?

>>43403753
there's TWO taiwan holo cafe?

Mio 20k

She lost some weight?!

>2 nsfw thread on catalog
WTF!?

>>43403922
yes, the one with the Stars and JP and the HoloEN exclusive one

>>43403910
They are in that stage. Still at least 2 years away til fully commercial unless they ACCELERATE

>>43403425
Based Riku. And he can just keep milking the "livers" since nijinigs far and wide worship and grovel at his feet for doing it.

>>43403958
jannies are asleep

>>43403744
>>It's always hololive's fault somehow
I'll never forget that the Niji discord fags tried to blame Holo fans for Lulu graduating during the week after her announcement and her final stream.

>>43403959
>>43403922
>>43403753
3 active cafes currently, as far as I know. 2 Taiwan, 1 in Singapore with Council and IDs

https://twitter.com/anipluscafesg

Re-investment is just a code for "We are not popular enough to stand on our own" Holofags.

Mori's weight
is reclining

>>43403972
I wonder how big Hololive would be when they finally release HoloEarth

>>43403991
lol wat
qrd
I was away from hololive because of the graduating bitch

That bait doesn't even make sense

>>43404028
Wait until Holoplus release

Imagine if Coc has gotten rid of Coc, Artia and the gang would be standing on stage at HoloFes....

>>43404069
you're expecting too much from nijikeks

>>43404069
What do you mean? It makes as much sense as selling out a venue means now you're in debt.

>>43404021
If they put one of them in the US it will be closed by trannies

>>43404069
This is exhibit b >>43404083

https://note.com/asahikokura0805/n/n72b371a9182c

Even if there were a worst Vtuber corpo award Niji still wouldn’t win

>>43403884
took a while to find this gem

They're awake again

>>43404083
Nah. If Cover bowed to their demands to kick out Coc, Foobs is next. And then whoever they want to kick out. And then they will force Cover to sign the One China Policy and other political shit.

>>43404056
They insisted it was holofans harassing her and stalking her for being in nijisanji and collabing with males and that all of her crazy fans are not Nijisanji fans. They shut the fuck up after she put the blame on Anycolor management, now they try to memory hole the entire affair.

>Ina is the only EN who gets gold in 2023
Kneel your new queen of EN

>>43403885
with the Gura daki trending on Twitter for either good or bad reasons, I would not be surprised if it beats dino Gura. I saw a lot of first time buyers here and on the QRTs

>>43404175
because Wactor exists

>>43403457
Can't wait to Nene mog the shit out of shitty shart

Too bad the thread got nuked.

>>43404220
When has Gira merch not sold well?

>>43404185

Catalog full on doxx mode. Nyfco being nuked is shit, they were being contained there

Why is this thread so slow? It's JP primetime isn't it?

>>43403264
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ye3wGa9VR0
Asu&Aru OMLive

>>43404332
Ina already won

>>43404220
trannies still seething?

Did our resident faggots get nuked along with the threads?

>>43404332
maybe a wide ban happening right now.

>>43404174
>Summary for busy people
>At the moment, Nijisanji is overwhelmingly more profitable than Hololive.

>(2) Hololive has overwhelmingly surpassed Nijisanji in fan acquisition and overseas expansion, but it is strongly dependent on spacha and secondary creation culture, and is one year behind Nijisanji in merchandise development.

>(3) Hololive's future challenge will be to acquire female fans in order to increase sales centered on goods.

> Depending on how much it costs to develop “Holo Earth”, which is scheduled to be released in 2024, it is highly likely that Hololive will overtake Nijisanji in no time.

>>43404351
maripeko should be today and yesterday streamed normal, letting a shart win is one of seven biggest mistake

king status?

>>43404360
Their whole existence is defined by pure seethe

>>43404332
No one in this board understands Japanese

>>43404360
They were the minority this time, got BTFO by lolichads

It seems that the KFC shit is real. But I cannot read Chinese so I don't know.

>>43404361
>>43404332
Ina already won... But i'm watching Twa in case you're asking

INA 3D STATUS
>[] NOT BTFO
>[] BTFO
>[x] FLAT, STIFF AND BTFO!

Holoblokes will DEFEND THIS!
(Protip: if you even try you’re a tribalist)

>>43404403
They are still nice enough to let EN have this gold, I mean they did give ID golds

>>43404395
HOLOKEKS BTFO
WKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAQ7w9ReKLc
sigh... Here we go again..

>>43404395
>At the moment, Nijisanji is overwhelmingly more profitable than Hololive
Which means nothing if Riku pockets all the money.

>>43403506
"Hololive". Hololive. HOLOLIVE! Did I bring up Hololive, by the way? Oh, did I mention Hololive? Let's talk some more about Hololive and how we are not like Hololive! [Insert chuuba here] is so much better than Hololive, you guys! Hololive! Let's talk some more about Hololive! We can't forget about Hololive. Can't forget to mention Hololive! Very related to this: Hololive. Don't even get me started on Hololive viewers! Yikes! Hololive! I bet they're coping out of their minds at HOLOLIVE right now. Can you even imagine being a member of Hololive?! Good thing [Insert chuuba here] isn't with Hololive. Hololive sucks. Hololive! We'll show all of them how we are not like Hololive. Unlike Hololive we have talent freedom. Hololive has no creative freedom. We're allowed to talk about parents here, unlike Hololive! Our content is awesome unlike Hololives content, which is not awesome, because Hololive does not make awesome content. Hololive doesn't let you make friends with whoever you want, only with other members of Hololive.The Hololive landscape will be flipped on its head by us who are not with Hololive. Aren't you happy you have us instead of Hololive? Hololive. Hololive. Hololive. Our goals are so much loftier than Hololives goals. We are not Hololive. We do not forgive Hololive. We do not forget Hololive. Gosh, I am so excited for the next concert without Hololive. Can you imagine even talking about Hololive in the current year? Ah, it couldn't be me bringing up Hololive in 2022 anno domini, that lord being not Hololive to be completely clear. I am looking forward to [Insert chuuba here] continuing to be herself (that is not being Hololive).

>>43404332
first off, its weekend so normal prime time rules do not apply
second off have you seen what streams are on right now? there is barely anything going on both content and numbers wise

>>43404449
That's kinda insulting to Ina

>>43403561
>>43404326

>>43404449
yeah, the 30k who watched Finana and Pomu would agree too

>>43404174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSxWa1IInyw
Video version I think?

>>43404449
Can somebody post those rock-hard 3D Nijititties?

>>43403329
>>43404449

>>43404174
Is this the nip retard that keep saying hololive is dying soon?

>>43404449
literal who?

>>43404403
nijiseethe

>>43404220
No way. Plushies are universal while dakis are a niche thing that only hardcore fans will buy

>>43404395
> is one year behind Nijisanji in merchandise development.
Nijinnigers are happy with copy & past merch... I see

>Hololive's future challenge will be to acquire female
They already did that
>it is highly likely that Hololive will overtake Nijisanji in no time.
I think they already did that too in this year already.

>>43404395
Comachama.. this is not 2020..

So this is what the doxxsisters get up to on the doxxsite huh?

>>43404449
Ina's dancing reps...

>post twittard sc
>easy (You)
I hate newfags so fucking much

>>43404395
>but it is strongly dependent on spacha and secondary creation culture
As opposed to Nijisanji getting their money from...?

>>43404220
There's a reason why Holo mochidoru sold more than dakis anon

Damn what mindbroke the sisters today? There is dox on the catalogue

>>43404538
should just perma IP ban them, yeah majority would evade, but it'll lessen them nonetheless

>>43404449

>>43404592
doxxsite is kill so they seethe here instead

>>43404449
defend this?
she's 6ft tall and old.
she walks like she's x3 her regular age.
her "dance" moves mimic an inflatable flailing arm man.
either ina is unhealthy/fat or she's older than every holo in JP and should be put on an IV so she can live.

>>43404469
Anon niji has 2-3x more talents...
Black company...

>>43404449
who is this nijinigger wannabe?

It's seething time already?

>>43403442
Why post ugly when you can post cute?

>>43404395
Seems like a bad interpretation of the data.
Also, those anycolor slides, I cannot into nip, but is that Anycolor ID, or is the ID short for something else...?

>>43404284
Yeah, after someone posted cheese pizza

>>43403329
>>43404449
It would be nice if some holofans would defend their oshis on main when insulted like this instead of silently seething on an image board, that's why you faggots keeps losing the culture war.

>>43404604
To be fair, they're at best second string niji.
First string niji 3D is pretty good, and I'm saying this as a holofag.
This is the prime example of niji philosophy of rich gets richer.

Holo-Niji-VSPO Valo collab.
>SAVE HONMA, YAGOO!

>>43403329
>How do you respond
SEETH

>>43404477
Hey now, it's much better than ACTUAL ffxiv for her numbers.

>>43404670
why? we already lives rent free in you nigger's head

>>43404683
Vtubers really think Roboco is the gateway to Hololive.

good morning fags did i miss anything overnight

>>43404683
Yesterday Chigu new outfit stream got 6k anon, imagine that.

>>43404683
She does not need saving. She already has Axia.

>>43404700
nijisanji really is a black company......

>>43404700
Ouch, nijiniggers can you explain?

>>43403972
This and Cover investing in that huge studio really shows how confident they are in their continued success

How long do generational idol groups remain relevant anyway? I know shit about the idol scene, but I've heard about AKB48 - are they still relevant or have they fallen off hard?

>>43404683
i don't why roboco keep getting these cross company collabs, she must be a whore irl. She's dogshit at fps too

>>43404700
I mean, we know that the talents get a big fucking cut of merch they self-fund, would make sense Hololive pays out quite a bit more (though for merch they don't have input on, the cuts are likely comparable between Hololive and Anycolor).

>>43404670
I'll get outed as a 4chan scroller if i reply to that now but don't worry the comments for that will be glorious nobody can shittalk holo

>>43404700
Sasuga Motoaki "Socialist" Tanigo.

>>43404395
This seems like it was using 2020's numbers. Cover doesn't rely at all on SCs. For both Anycolor and Cover SCs are a small portion of their income. Tons of Anycolor's income comes from overseas too. There seems to be new Hololive merch several times a week.

>>43404683
We need to trade Roboco for Bora

>>43404700
Riku needs another yacht, please understand.

You know, I know that IRL looks do not determine the ability to get hired, but HoloEN girls are somewhat decent looking compared to NijiEN girls.

>>43404753
Who?
I don't think there's a niji liver with that name right now

>>43404592
fake luxiem kfc merch

>>43404766
Because no one would care
The bigger you are the more you have to maintain your image and be selective about who you interact with. Celebrities rarely interact with commoners

>>43404700
Keeping talent morale high and ensuring they stay invested in the company's success by sharing a fair portion of the profit... Tanigo-sama, my knees... They're kneeling all on their own...

>>43404700
majority goes into Riku and investor's pockets... Top talents complaining about money should already tell you everything

>>43404762
They are still relevant to some degree, but vtubing kinda breaks the entire idol formula with ageless models and more flexible ways to put in work

>>43404700
Shiba...

>>43404780
>socialist
>allow the talent to self fund and produce their own merch and reap the profit while holding the risk
Can’t be more capitalistic than that

For the record that’s not risk free, there was a time Aki got stuck with a whole bunch of unsold merch in that early era when they produced cheap stuff like T-Shirts.
Then they got smarter and moved to “pre order” and limited sets

>>43404617
>Asian
>hyper shut in
>woman
>western processed food

Even an average anon would be able to toss Ina around like a potato sack.

>>43404592
This is just what they get up to on the doxxsite on the regular, they have to do it here now that it's nuked

>>43404733
>he doesn't know how influential behind the scenes Roboco is

How do you think the sisters will spin Cover sharing more of the profits with Holo members?

>>43404768
Not just a fucking cut. If the merched is 100% funded by talents, then 100% income goes to talents Cover/HoloPro would just promoted it for free.
Cover only got cut if the talents asking for some kind of financial support

>>43404700
Let me get this straight, Anycolor has almost TWICE the talent as Cover yet they only pays AT LEAST HALF of what Cover pays their talent?
Holy black company.

>>43404639
Oh yea i fucking forgot that niji has more talent
In fact that holo can be compared to niji despite having lesser talent is awesome

I wonder how many hololive talents owns shares in the company, Lamy most definitly does

>Towa mentioned Lapplus

>>43404814
anon, no "ugly" person would want to become a vtuber that has to dance infront of a lot of people.
they already have to deal with their low self-esteem

>>43404395
>At the moment, Nijisanji is overwhelmingly more profitable than Hololive.
In overall profit, but not sales profit, because Cover is reinvesting into growth. Obviously a stock market reporter is going to favour paying out to shareholders and buying the CEO a yacht, but if you're a fan your opinion may differ

>Hololive has overwhelmingly surpassed Nijisanji in fan acquisition and overseas expansion, but it is strongly dependent on spacha and secondary creation culture, and is one year behind Nijisanji in merchandise development.
This is just weird. The two companies have different merch strategies, neither is behind the other. Cover hasn't been dependent on superchats since 2020.

>Hololive's future challenge will be to acquire female fans in order to increase sales centered on goods.
Why? There are a lot of very successful companies that sell more or less exclusively to male otaku.

The guy also closes the piece by saying he hates hololive fans but thinks the company is a good investment, which is pretty funny

so i guess mori's cat will make a guest appearance in a peko stream?
https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1627275638574030849

>>43404901
Public company should make profits for their shareholders. Paying for employees is just a necessary expense.

>>43404780
Nah. It is called "keeping the gold-laying hen healthy".
But really, as a master poacher himself, Yagoo seems to be paranoid about his talents being poached. Maybe, that is why he compensates like crazy and he wants to make them feel as comfortable as possible.

>Towa is the strongest JP streaming
So this is what happens when Towa finally streams FOTM games huh?
Not bad...

>>43404950
>master poacher
wtf
other than luna, who else did he poach?

>>43404860
You seem to be mistaking socialism with authoritarianism.
It's simple, Yagoo pays his workers well while Riku pockets most of the profits while his livers fucking starve.
Yagoo is our Bernie Sanders.

>>43404942
Not necessarily, she just said Holomen can also submit their cat, don’t think Mori would suddenly want to show her cat

>>43404449
ah yes, the fabled niji 3D

>>43404984
gen 4 has 3 10k+ streamer, just luna is stuck in 5k-9k range

>>43404984
If Towa is so good why is there no Towa#2?

>>43404986
>other than luna
lol, he think all hologirls hatch from egg

>>43405015
holo 3D props isn't any better

Yagoo always has a more personable appearance compared to Riku. I don’t get why Riku stops doing stuff with the streamers, he could use positive PR.

can king still get gold?

>>43405027
Lapu...

>>43404915
It is well known in the JP sphere Holos get paid mountains of cash compared to everyone else. I mean Gundou has mentioned it before.

>>43405032
it's not poaching if it's free agent

Mori is just doing TL on stream

>>43404950
That's weak shit.
If Yagoo's only afraid of other company poaching holomen, there's no reason for him to pay non-talent workers like tech or management well.

>>43404768
there's an easier way to measure this
name a single 3k median niji who bought a fucking house with their income

>>43404986
I believe the cat and the dog duo.
hopefully salami after she announces her graduation. jk

>>43404736

>>43405057
HoloJP are unironic idols

>>43404449
it would be nice if someona can reply to this tranny with a kuzuha or toya dogshit 3D model

>>43404984
whats her real name though?

>>43405075
non-talent workers are also talents themselves in their specific fields.

>>43404860
Yeah but cover shares risks with them a holotalent is never in the risk of tuely going broke because cover has there back watame used a shit ton of money to make her song she said she was in the red but the company got her back

>>43405118
Tortellini Tortuga

>>43405106
That has nothing to do with how well Cover pays it's workers anon.

>>43404700
Where's the diagram from Cover's IPO, again? The one where it shows how profits are being used. I'll use it in the future to BTFO sisters

>>43404449

>>43404206
>They shut the fuck up after she put the blame on Anycolor management
Really? So she graduated, returned to her old account, then threw the management under the bus? How is she not sued for defamation?

>>43405132
Yeah gotta poach the bookkeeping department of Cover, says no one.

>>43405162
Ina's octopus had more effort than Elira's whole 3D KEK

The best first army is back!!!
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1627287944699740162

>>43405169
nah, she threw the management under the bus during her niji graduation stream

>>43404021
I found a review of sorts with pics on reddit for the EN-exclusive one:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/10vatwp/dark_darker_darkest_weekly_discussion_thread_feb/j8436ar/
Looks like it's reservation-based so no lines

>>43405041
I see we've already moved from "Niji 3D is better" to "well, it's bad, but hololive's is also bad (t. someone who last watched hololive 3D in 2021)"

fucking neil, Towa was inclining to 20k on her first run of stage 2 and youtube died

>>43405118
etrenal-san

>>43405182
You joke but the scouting department is definitely on the radar

>>43405199
Wait a second... is this a bait for me to watch her graduation vod?

>>43405162
that looks like how a fat person moves

>>43404908
>100% income goes to talents
Not quite, talents keep 100% the revenue but Cover took small fee for production and the like.

>>43405144
yes it does, its where cover gets the money

>>43405162
Did she poop her overalls?

>>43404947
But we're not. We're fan here not stock owner. Unless sis here bought anycolor and is in deep red

>>43404534
>quAliTy
this is the numbers thread you retard

>>43405169
Not what she did. In her last stream, she clarified that the reason she was graduating was that any time she would get a stalker mail, Anycolor would put her on break. The constant breaks got her fed up, and she asked if she could just opt to ignore it since they never amounted to anything, but they said no, so she chose to not renew her contract.
It was kinda bad for both of them, since if Anycolor chose to do nothing, the police wouldn't treat it seriously. At the same time, if it's minor and didn't amount to anything, it's really disruptive.

>>43405162
I NEED TO POOP

>>43405238
Sure, Cover's scouting and tech department is on the league of their own, but shit like financial department and the like, they're dime a dozen.
Yet Yagoo also pays them well.

>>43405135
All of the songs of Watame's second album have MVs, I believe. Probably the only album I know that is like that.

>>43405150
>>43404700
>meanwhile in Cover

>>43405277
like genshinfags on /gig/ always says
spiritual shareholders

>>43405191
>taked vacations during valentine
hoshinguyencucks...

>>43405257
quick! call kobo! she can do something about it

>>43404395
Preety much confirms that the guy dosent know shit about talents the reason cover is so overwhelmingly ahed of others is because of the amount of outliers they have in the industry suisei,mori,gura, pekora, marine,kobo,subaru all the others who can bend the numbers at there will and the low performars also dominate in there respective nieches

>>43405293
Because thanks to them, Cover can finally go public and has enough money to fund the 3rd studio

Pictures have started popping up

https://twitter.com/littlecapy4816/status/1627242355215716352?s=46&t=9tbPBRgHE-KYq7wx5Zsvew
https://twitter.com/cg900610/status/1626611333734219777?s=46&t=9tbPBRgHE-KYq7wx5Zsvew
https://twitter.com/lshadowmaple/status/1626840073592528897?s=46&t=9tbPBRgHE-KYq7wx5Zsvew

>>43405182
I did not say that.

>NO YOU CANT PAID YOUR WORKER WELL BECAUSE
What is this cucked mentality? Sound like Jeff Bezos dicksucker ngl

kaela is not streaming what the fuck

>>43404527
Yeah Gura's my oshi and I bought three dino guras but I'm not buying the daki
That's just way too cringe for me and I seem to be the rare chumbud that doesn't fit in /ggg/ if you know what I mean
I mean I suppose I could buy it and never open its package...but then I might as well save for the next goomba merch

>>43405339
Is there even a company aside from Cover that invests back? Anykara fucks off witn the stock money while Vshojo does nothing with their $11 million.

>>43405376
Amazon cage wagie mentality

>>43405343
That's the benefits of paying your worker living wage and more.
High pay inspire high morale and results in high productivity which in turn net the company more money.

>>43405379
some ID meet up with kiara

>>43405086
>cat & dog got poached from the biggest Vtuber company at that time by YAGOO
Can you fucking believe it?

>>43405402
technically there is now movement of the stock money which is the various sololives

>HOLOEN GOLD TODAY.
HOLOJPKEKS STATUS?

>everyone in hololive is a millionaire
but why do they act like broke bitches?

>>43404700
So Hololive talents gets 3.5 million dollars between 70~ talents and Nijisanji livers get 4.4 million between 150~ livers?

>>43405306
>spiritual shareholders
damn, they are corporate buttlicker and they don't even get profit from buttlicking company

>>43404395
>At the moment, Nijisanji is overwhelmingly more profitable than Hololive
>overwhelmingly more profitable
If Cover does some black company shit, they'd be rich too. Whatever Nijisanji is doing right now is burning everything too early for quick profits while sacificing long term longevity. The greatest proof is how they're still relying and focusing on their 2018-2020 talents on most of the shit they've done while the 2020-2023 debuts are having a harder time having a foothold. For all we know, Hololive could just be fine by doing lives every month and it'll payout a $80k+ in a minute.

>>43405106
I mean they have far surpassed the traditional idol at this point i would even say that they have became something that hasn't been termed yet

>>43405402
Does Riku stock buyback counts?
he's investing in more yachts for himself.

>>43405431
classic holo vs holo when BTFO

>>43405426
The blackest company? Yes, it'd absolutely believable.

>>43405446
Time to post riku's "short term profit" copypasta

>>43405431
where's our Millie and Finana cripple gold, sisters...

>>43405366
yeah taiwanese don't really use twitter much, and also they fucked up by not setting a proper hashtag

>>43404986
>>43405426
I don't think you know what poaching is. The person has to actually still be working elsewhere for it to be poaching
If your criteria are just "previously worked for some other agency no matter how small" that ends up being like half of JP

More breaks from NijiEN?

https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin/status/1627239261346074627
>I’ve decided to take time off until March 1 as I have a couple big deadlines and more family visiting this month and I honestly just feel too anxious and overwhelmed to stream. I’m really sorry, February has just been crazy in so many ways…thank you for your patience always TT

>>43405444
Demigods?

>>43405487
Late-chama...

1st army holo passing through

>>43405487
See, Petra is lying and they’re secretly recording the AR Live right now.

>not including the hologra episode and the outfit shuffle at the end, the homo part with suisei is the most replayed part of the countdown live.
I thought we hate the homos bros?

>>43405487
>Comes back to do a shill stream
>Fucks off again

>>43405487
It's for the AR concerts
and no, I'm not a nijifags
it's just an educated guess from the other members who also confirm that they're in Japan

>>43404991
>mistaking socialism with authoritarianism
They're the same thing.

>>43405376
It is just tribalfagging gone wrong, that they fail to realize the implications of what they are spouting.

>>43404762
AKB48 is still relevant but only in Japan. The vtubing idol model innovates and improves a whole lot of bad stuff from the traditional idol industry.

>Posting almost 3 month old bait to deflect

this is some kind of bug right? There's no way a niji outfit reveal couldn't even beat HoloID after all that boasting nijikeks did, right?

What if Holo Sport Fes next year turns into a real Sport Fes with the bigger studio?

>>43405305
meanwhile king Kuzuha himself knows nothing about his own merch KEK

>>43405478
some please also attach that batman power using riku's face

>>43405540
Let me guess, burger?
Socialism is not China, it's scandinavian countries like Sweden and Norway.

>>43405487
I feel Tempus' success did a lasting damage on these vtubers' mental health.

>>43405479
with the EN-vtuber sphere got hard-cull by Youtube (HoloEN&NijiEN)
You will never have a chance to see clipple gold for NijiEN unless it's "EVENTS" ever again.
I'm not joking, btw

>>43405516
like clockwork>>43405536

>>43405376
nijiniggers are unironically the biggest corpo bootlickers anywhere on the planet
Not even elon musk fans are this bad

>>43405524
That's just suityan being able to single-handedly beat the homo debuff
If you look at the CCV graph it stopped growing when the stars part started and resumed growing once they left

JWU, did Finana get at least around 32k like her 3D debut on her outfit reveal stream?

>>43405562
Flayon was streaming at that time so maybe Tempus overlap killed her numbers?

>>43405583
>clipple
baby talk-chama...

>>43405444
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>43405616
scroll up a little...

seethe and false flag more

>>43405376
That's what late stage capitalism does to nijifags brain.
It turns you into wagie slave defender.

>>43405616
12k

>>43405483
Just look at Taiwanese nekkos hash tag for nene 1mil. Those are confusing as fuck

>>43405616

>>43405616
depressedchama, why are you sleeping 15hrs?

>>43405616
lolno

>>43405662
>late stage capitalism

>>43405394
I like Gura and Cunny, but whether or not I buy the Daki would be a tough decision for me to make in the next few weeks. Daki just feels like an adult toy, it's a luxury item for single people who live alone and don't get much parent's visitation (although my country is very lax about that sort of thing and my parents would just tell me not to put cunny on display).

>>43405486
Yup. I exaggerated.
On the similar topic, regarding the Versen poaching rrat, I do not believe Yagoo talked about poaching because of it. You cannot be poached if the talent supposedly being poached did not sign a contract with you in the first place.

>>43405516
How can something be considered "live" when its pre-recorded

>>43405644 ment for
>>43405435

>>43405701
Yeah I said it.
We even have the clear example of what it does to chuuba sphere like Anycolor.

>>43405446
I mean it's true, who spams sololives and concerts? Toya, Kanae and Kuzuha aren't solo performers. They never had ideals to become a performer.

>>43405366
I saw some kenzoku go there first thing in the morning and post their Towa hauls in her art tag

>>43405490
You know what? Why not let's just call holotalents demigods from now on

>>43405658
Cn we have a gyaru holo for jp7? Pls yagoo i beg.

>>43405435
No, the Anycolor number also includes things besides performer compensation, they didn't break it out

>>43405573
kek.

>>43405524
I mean the performance was unironically really good

>>43405437
Who and where?

>No no no it didn't get cancelled
>The company is just lying for no reason
>They also refunded the tickets for no reason
>And the livers are also lying about taking breaks
Taking Lie-verse a bit too literaly, no?

>>43405680
>>43405689
At least it's not this.
Poor Chigu

Was there ever a danger of poaching? Look at what happened to Coco and Rushia. It's not "poaching", but after they left, they didn't retain most of their glory and fame from Hololive. Their careers hasnt matured enough yet.

>>43405841
should've taken the holo offer you dumb bitch

>>43405379
She's in japan rn

>>43405437
Poorfag mentality is hard to beat sometime anon.

>>43405446
Anycolor has more 5digits streamers that debuted 2022 onwards than hololive does anon.
Lauren & Salami against Koyori

>>43405844
Sony poached sheep during her audition to Holo

>>43405446
Salome is earning more for Riku with her sponsorships right anons? d-doryaaaa

>>43405841
Chigu have some wacky ass eyes

>>43405568
>>43405305
note that some Holos know nothing about some of their merch too
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-HpirwIBYw
>also add Gura's 1/7 figure
A good rule of thumb would be if they shill the shit out of that merch, it's 100000% guaranteed that they're involved in its production. Also why they know all the nooks and crannies of their birthday and anniversary merch

>>43405437
It's called being humble retard they are asended beings

We are living in a world where kiaras last original song is performing better than guras last original song. That is the funniest shit ever

>>43405791
Oh, that's even worse. Those are monthly numbers, right? $3.5m between 70 people in literally nothing if yearly. There is no way to know how much the Nijisanji livers get but it is safe to say not much unless they are top tier.

>even towa is better at holocure than aqua

>>43405781
Im a devout follower of the rabbit

>>43405855
She couldn't have known that her star could sunk this low.
Selejo debuted to quite a fanfare and high numbers, and then Riku proceeded to bury them under multiple new waves.

>>43405823
The weird insistence that it's still happening also relies on deliberately ignoring that the 5th anniversary live didn't give refunds despite being delayed indefinitely (it ended up happening 8 months later)

>>43405819
because their project also cost them very much.
A good music video with songs perm cost them at least 1 million yen everytime they doing.

>>43405918
Towa had uprades purchased

>>43405927
no actually Selejo was the last wave they debuted in 2020 and had one of the longest uncontested periods in nijisanji. The next wave nijisanji release was edengumi almost 2 years later. Selejo failed because they were the first wave where they tried to push the themed wave unity stuff, and then got undercut by 3/5th of them barely streaming.

also hololive heavily overshadowed them

>Miko is still streaming
Trying to race with Pekora using sheer hours?

>>43405867
Holo could never win this. Nice pick sister.

>>43405867
>Lauren
Debuted in 2021. So did Koyori.

>>43405437
Coco burns money like nothing, anon.
The orange Austrian is also said to have taken control of some Aryan land using her sheer euro.

Sad news, Selen is no longer yabless

King ... He's ngmi ...