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EN bad JP good.
so, Ina gold?
You think Peko will return the favor and join Gura's 3D showcase?
https://twitter.com/AmagaiRei/status/1627158733079064578https://twitter.com/AmagaiRei/status/1627158733079064578https://twitter.com/AmagaiRei/status/1627158733079064578
>>43385837Impossible to know. On one hand (unless Cover go full retard again) Council should have the advantage of an ACTUAL 3d debut, not a glorified 3d skit stream.On the other hand, Council's JOP mindchair is in the gutter and that's who the bulk of 3d tourists are.Maybe Council will be boosted by having their 3d debut near EN3's debut or something.
quick thread
kill this onethis >>43386067 was first
>>43386147Pekora does not show gratitude.
Yagoo already promised to move further in the EN market, so I don’t get the shitposts here. Investors also want the company to expand anyway.
>>43386090Previous: >>43381959
>>43386163>architect PFP>modeled hololive's biggest sticc???
>>43386225Kill yourself underage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIaTI20gkXwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCITuiU2qcwGOLD
>>43386225Fuck off faggot
>>43386289I'm not talking to you nigger retard
What did we learn last thread, anon?
my cute wife
>>43384860I tried mentioning this a week ago but SEA tards and chinks were too busy arguing about which Homo EN will hit 1k or not. The first army numbers are down severely for the past 2/3 weeks. Miko and Pekora are regularly hitting low/mid 20k, when for all of December and January they have had 30k floors. I'm not sure why this is the case, there isn't any major IRL events taking place that I know of, and February is normally a big month for game releases so saying it's a content drought is also odd.
>>43386302yeah, rip ina, king will get 79k
palette is still the best song in hololive, prove me wrong.protip: you can't
>>43386225why is riggerposting even relevant these days? I don't even remember this person's name, iron vertex has been doing Gura's rigging for over a year now.
>>43386232Anon I don't think anyone is concerned Cover is going to fucking can the EN branch when it brings them millions and they go around brandishing Gura for prestige everywhere.They keep debuting new HomoJPs, new IDs etc and were even confident enough to try and make homos work (again) on the EN market.
>>43386232A good place to start would be their merch shipping. Its such a pain to buy anything
>>43386324Numbers are kinda stupid.
>>43386232My theory is that Cover put all of their cards on JP. Absolutely spoiled them to no end in everything to look good to the main JP investors at home. While doing so neglected EN severely. This is the year EN will get some love though. I have no doubt about that considering they pulled their weight WITHOUT support.
>>43386324Youtube is a dogshit site and further puts me in the camp of "I use this shit thread for News of other corpos I don't watch"
>>43386324>chainshit
>>43386348It isn't even Towa's best song
>>43386350Does this guy still work with Anya or is he gone completely?
>>43386335Anon January/February is always a streaming rut. Don't ask me why, idk, but we were having this same debate last year.
>>43386348>holostars song>hololivekys
>>43386335Wasn't January like the highest point of JP ccv, even higher than Coco's graduation and JP6's honeymoon period?
>>43386443HE GONE
>>43386443He's fucking gone
>>43386440What's towa's best song?
>>43386449Yeah, my theory has been the 2nd semester of college is usually busier than the 1st semester, in America at least.
>>43386459
EN hype could have been kept high by releasing EN3 last year, but not only did they debut fucking males into an audience that does not care about them, they debuted ANOTHER male gen which created drama that additionally drove away EN viewers and split the fanbaseand not only because EN management is retarded (they are) but they are ALSO malicious who want to "own the parasocial incels and unicorns" and want to "support the cause"
>>43385759It's not EN market, every western streamers won't survive that long. The same reason why Ninja or Dream is dead
>>43386348Reflect exist.
>Fauna gets invited to Apex Tourney>Doesn't talk to anyone>Pretends she's lost and kills herself when all the attention is on her>Doesn't say a word post stream nor thanks Ollie for putting in work to make it happen>Only retweets, no QRT for Ina's 3D Showcase>no live tweet or congratulatory messageFauna's a cunt. A complete and total selfish cunt. I bet you she live tweets Gura's though. Meanwhile Bae was in chat and tweeted AND funneled into her, but you fags treat her like shit
>>43386348No. Mawaru luna, little bit, and everblue are the top 3
>>43386443Otsukue does anya now. Cover cut ties with umiushi afaik
>>43386521Tempus was not made for the typical fans of Hololive EN. Cover was going for a new market you absolute niggers.
How do we save Pekora?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGgEFoI9MhE&watch?v=Ud73fm4Uoq0
>>43386232>Yagoo already promised to move further in the EN marketYay. More fags. Bring Tempus 3 and speedrun their 3D.
>>43386522If streaming is dead, YT will kill its streaming service and there will be no Hololive dumbass.
>Ina did a JP stream before 3d debut>Mori is doing a JP stream before 3d debut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzIemV5vHqAGura Duolingo 2.0, algorithm boogaloo soon?
>>43386540Based. Give only the basic, most common courtesy to homolover like Ollie and Ina. They should count themselves lucky she acknowledges them at all.
>>43386540>Fauna gets invited to Apex Tourney>Doesn't talk to anyone>Pretends she's lost and kills herself when all the attention is on her>Doesn't say a word post stream nor thanks Ollie for putting in work to make it happen>Only retweets, no QRT for Ina's 3D Showcase>no live tweet or congratulatory messageHOLY FUCKING BASEDI'll now watch her sometimes
>>43386585his final work is Anya's 2nd outfit right?
>>43386540don't forget about her literally killing herself on the last match when ollie was spectating her because it was a fucking shitshow
>>43386514https://youtu.be/Zc05le75CfI
>>43386348ALiCE&u mogs everything
>>43386136only 60k....EN stagnation fucked them so hard its crazy
>>43386639Not even the best in that album. Akuma is better..
>>43386608Well, they shouldn't have given them to the exact same management team then. You can visibly see the management shfit gears to shower the fags with stuff at a time when HoloEN needed stuff the most.
>>43386615>17k early morning>badShe'll be fine. She probably has another stream planned later in the day.
>>43386659not even the best id songhttps://youtu.be/q4N7EhUWOAA
>>43386540Did she stream her POV?No? Not my stream not my problem
>enter number>What is the best subjective opinion?
Have ENfags stopped malding about the fact their vaunted lazy whores couldn't even crack 100k for their 3D debut?
>>43386659Risu stop posting on this mongolian cave painting forum and go stream
>>43386335Peko loves that shitty HP game so she has been spamming it for over 2 weeks. Nice to see her having fun but that game is just boring. At least there still Marine who always careful with her content choice.
>>43386615You need to worry about your oshi ENfag.
>>43386334we love your cute wife here
>>43386692No you retard. They were cleaning up loose ends with every branch. Making them look polished for investors and Tempus is even more proof to show how far of a reach they have in each and every market. Debuting EN3 and JP7 would have been a bad idea all around. It would mean more delays in 3D shit for EN and JP.
>>43386179Councils 3D showcase will be spoiled by holofest this year ala Myth last yearIt'll be paywalled sure, but it'll get leakedAnd the more time between the paywalled "debut" and the actual 3D showcases, the less and less hypeEspecially if Council themselves "spoil" it like Myth did in various streams last year, including 3D/sololives for 3/5 of them
>>43386701Nousagikek cope, she’s reclining…
we getting mogged in both hogwarts ccv, maybe we just suck now
Oh, she finally ticked
>>43386762they need to learn from koyo how to leech from the first army
Kinda funny when Hololive girls get called whores constantly but Nijisanji girls actually act like whores.
>>43386633Actually, I'm not sure. I think so? I thought all of her stuff was re-rigged but she still lists Umiushi as her papa in the credits for her Feb 9th live2d update stream. Maybe that's just "emeritus" status or something though because I'm pretty sure umiushi is gone.
>>43386907Being involved in the Holobox is not "leeching" no matter how much you want to justify your lazy whores having shit numbers, sorry.
>>43386478That's mostly because of early January where Pekora's avg median was like 60k due to new year holidays buff, second half of January wasn't too great.
>>43386942Calling NijiEN girls whores is unfair towards whores.
Anyone got a list of Ina’s top 10 streams?
>>43386903omedetou
>>43386866Bro it's like her 5th playthrough relax. Peko can sneeze and fart out 30k streams like nothing anytime she wanted. This is just filler.
>>43386418No, they put there cards on homosThey tried to leverage holofes for uproar and holo EN's popularity for tempusJP has always had more available resources and more competent management than EN - last year was no different
>>43386807This worries me more
... Now that I think of itEliras 3D got shilled by KING, no? Thay's on par with Peko shilling Mooner in Niji's term
>>43386709Is this the kind of retard you guys produce on /#/?The number ain't even right.
i blame kpop for all the bad numbers in hololive
>>43386418Well, they are getting this concert/expo/whatever this is, so that's cool at least.
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>82,391: Marine (Hololive)>30,999: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>30,598: Koyori (Hololive)>30,188: Gura (Hololive)>25,421: Salome (Nijisanji)>25,354: Chloe (Hololive)>24,514: Subaru (Hololive)>23,389: Miko (Hololive)>21,666: Kanata (Hololive)>19,412: Towa (Hololive)>14,312: Iroha (Hololive)>14,025: Botan (Hololive)>13,612: Hololive (Hololive)>13,198: Subaru (Hololive)>12,839: Lize (Nijisanji)>12,811: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>10,682: Karuta (Nijisanji)>10,554: Furen (Nijisanji)>10,511: Nui (Nijisanji)>10,447: Luna (Hololive)
>>43387041hey don't blame us, he got laughed out of here for a reason
>>43386963but koyo is having a shit numbers right now when she's not leeching
>60kGRIM?GRIM.
>>43386942you mean like the people on twitter who always accuse anime fans of being pedo but then get caught with actual 3D cp themselfes?
>>43387052>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 202314) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi>PER COMPANY12x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora3x: Marine2x: Toya1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY35x: Hololive13x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER18x: Pekora4x: Marine3x: Toya2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro
>>43386615I USED TO RULE THE WORLD
>>43387041It's a shitpost or someone extremely new, vod view verification is numberfagging 101, one of the first things you learn
>>43386866>50 days into 2023>Pekora has 23 golds>"Bros she's reclining!"ENfag copium. Note those are real golds not the worthless cripplefag ones
>>43387088Tempus3 soon
where did this KanataxChloe thing come from? they are cute together but it's pretty random
>>43387033>Mito's first hogwarts stream sub 30kindeed, nijisanji is truly dying
>>43387112Ahh, marine nun lewds... the sacred and the propane...
So why are last samurais still claiming that the EN market is reclining when we know from Cover's financials that they make way more per EN streamer with way less investment compared to JP? EN has been crippled by only having 10 streamers, if they had 20 streamers right now they'd be the main branch in terms of sheer popularity and numbers.
>>43387021Where does it say that EN management also manages starsEN? Like how JP and JP stars right? They are their own entity. Stop coping.
>>43387159he doesn't want you to make fun of his oshi, his oshi is finana
>>43387159Let them cope anon.
>>43387052It's possible marine takes gold againdepends on what she's doing though
>>43387159>50 days in>less than 50 goldsSay it with me ladsRECLINING
>>43387159No golds are worth anything retard, it's just jpniggers shitting up this thread when we know Cover cares more about subs, VODs, poll and chat metrics which indicate merch sales better.
>>43387198well no one told me that, that was Mito's first Hogwarts stream, now you all are fuckers for not telling me
Stop larping as japanese xenophobes lol
>>43386615unculled Pekora is 170k
>>43387033Watch it fall below 15k once she picks her house
>>43387268encuck...
>>43387229Brace yourself for a Pekora Micopi stream. You know its going to happen
>>43387190she's trying to find who can be her duo, now that she doesn't have Coco, that's why you saw her with Towa then with Luna and etcthis is me being schizo btw
>>43387306JP cull is 10%, it's already been calculated in these threads last samurai. Neck yourself
>>43387210Because HoloX is just a superior product. Face it. La+ gets more merch because she is the BEAST in the EAST with sales. Kneel EN tranny.
>>43386514https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfOx00AOfKo
>>43386136can't be surehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIaTI20gkXw
>>43387268Cover is interested in their bottom line. /#/ is interested in the comparative quality of streamers. That lazy whores can bring in merch bucks is irrelevant to the point they're shitty garbage streamers who have reclining viewership.
I have a genuine question about Gura, is she a normie? cause alot of info she reveals about herself paints her that way. and if not then who in all hololive is one then?
>>43387306unculled my dick is 10 inches
>>43387387Kronii is a normie. The rest of EN not really.
>>43387379Quality = money, keep seething last samurai JP will never be as big a market as America, there is no growth to be had in the dying Japanese economy
>>43387159I have a 24 hour memory. The past is irrelevant and the future isn’t real all there is is the now.
>>43387360>JP cull is 10%source - your mom losses vagina
*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*>2/18 DAILY TALLY30,174: Gura (Hololive)9,418: Amelia (Hololive)7,985: Millie (Nijisanji)6,307: Uki (Nijisanji)6,145: Ike (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream>PER COMPANY18x: Hololive>PER STREAMER4x: Mori3x: Baelz2x: Amelia, Fauna, IRyS, Gura1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)24p: Mori21p: Baelz17p: IRyS15p: Fauna14p: Mumei, Amelia12p: Ina10p: Gura7p: Kronii, Vox5p: Kiara4p: Vesper3p: Uki, Luca, Magni1p: Mysta, Millie
>>43387210>they make way more per EN streamerRetard
>>43387319>he doesn't know
>>43387229King gold, he got the japanese pdp on his side
>>43387190JP can form the weirdest groups because they may meet in the studio by accident
So which Hogwarths house have all the JP Holos and all the relevant JP Nijis have being sorted in
>>43387387She lives in a family where her brother bought a gun as a christmas present for her dad.
>>43387362Speaking of which, how many days until her channel loses monetization?
>>43386835I seriously don't see how the fuck EN3 holding down the streaming fort would delay 3ds or Tempus flopping helped build investor confidence, but whatever you say, sister.
Interesting, if you check xqc's stats, his average dropped around 10k from November till now which is the same for nijien and holoen.
>>43387441Nijicope, just because nijiEN is sinking without trace compared to nijiJP doesn't mean holoEN is doing the same
>>43387387Gura literally talks about the most cursed shit and is one of the most socially awkward people i have ever seen anon. She also watches weird shows off stream with fauna and mumei. She's the furthest thing from a normie
Sharts seething or sisters false flagging? I vote sharts seething Kek imagine getting 60k on a 3d debut
>>43387387Gura is just a ironic weeb shiteater following trendy online things. Probably since 2014 era her comedy stems from.
>>43387473Isn’t that Giga normie for America?
>10kFauna needs more collabs
>>43387473Anon, she's an American. that's normal. Everyone I know owns guns, there are more guns than people in the US. Only cityslickers don't.
>>43387465Who gives a shit? Honestly. Ask /hlgg/ if you are so retarded that you do.
>>43387433NijiEN really gave up with luxiem in the shitter huh?
>>43387379funny cope jpkek
>>43387423We already know you're a dirty filipino LARPing as an anglo so you can drop the "America fuck yeah" stuff
>>43387495>I vote sharts seething Keknice falseflag faggot
>>43387433>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY31x: Hololive16x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori4x: Baelz3x: Mysta, Ina, IRyS2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Fauna, Gura1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)46p: Mumei38p: Ina33p: IRyS32p: Fauna, Amelia29p: Baelz, Mori26p: Vox23p: Mysta17p: Kronii14p: Luca13p: Selen12p: Kiara10p: Pomu, Gura9p: Millie8p: Ike7p: Regis5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel
>>43387495Aren't you ashamed of the level of discourse you're contributing? What's your age, anon?
>>43387473That's kinda normal in America. My dad has done that
>>43387476I'm not 100% sure but I would guess at least 90 days? I base that only because Gura return and Ina return are about around 3 months.
>>43387552The US and the Philippines have a close relationship in economy and defense, retard, they used to be an American colony and inherited some of the best American traits.
>>43387535council really need to do something about their subs. they're doing fine everywhere else but their subcounts are fucking hilariously low
>>43387387she is in a sweet spot of weebness where she hasn't watched a lot of anime or japanese media in general but is weeb enough to know how to read kana and like japanese music
Yagoo....please....
King is collabing with hikakin to snipe ina's gold.........
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei >Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_ >MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0 >Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune >Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune >Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff >Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich places to end up for these streamers include>NijiEN Gamers >HoloEN3 >Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs Other notesTsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888 VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713 Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1627156041334140928exID & exKR merch on sale
>>43387603
>>43387632BASED BASED BASED fuck enwhores
>>43387632I’d fucking kek if ina fails to get gold today
>>43387640>Castella InomoriJuly 30th>MelonbreadJuly 23rd>SelkieOctober 16th>SellenaDecember 30th>UsamiSeptember 27th>>RoaFenJanuary 6th>Etherna CelineJuly 27th>>Etherna HelenJuly 28th>Makoto & Akira MisakiNovember 6th
>>43387477Tempus was to show they have more variety in the market dumb fuck. EN3 would 100% took some resources away from the already existing EN members.
>>43387603kek, you will never be white my fellow seabro.
>>4338736010-15% vs 20-25% on EN side. Keep in mind this is the calculation immediately after the 2020 drop. We have no idea if this is still accurate since it's been in place for so long it's simply become the default. 2021 ccvid also screwed with some things and might have aligned the JP and EN cull. ID audience, especially Kobo's audience, is even more demonstrably culled than either.
>>43387603wrong, flipkek was abandoned by us and now they start to lick the chink ass because they need it to survive
>>43387518>>43387543>>43387589>For Christmas, here's something to kill people withDo Americans actually? What the fuck is the point? No wonder your murder rate is third world level.
> Council have 8 kouhai in Hololive as a whole> Council have 0 kouhai in Hololive EN
>>43387603Yes, it's practically the 51st state. Everyone knows this.
>>43387650I’d predict 100 units total sold
>>43387632welp thats a wrap
>>43387711>would 100% took
>>43387473a GONG you fucking ESL retard
>>43387473What's that have to do with anything?
>>43387650It's just acrylic stands and voice packs. This is pathetic
>>43387749give up flipkek, your master has abandoned you. they had no interest with ugly brown skin
>>43387758You know what I mean you faggot.
>>43387735have you considered that guns are fucking cool, they look cool and make really cool loud noises at the shooting range. Owning guns is super fun
>>43387735This is why no one likes Euros.
>>43387724right thread dbzchad
>>43387779Fucking disgusting No wonder nips treat them like subhumans kek
>>43387780She has a cool family?
>>43387735Boars can fuck up your car badly if you don't kill them fast
>>43387614I we go by your semantics of watch then yeah, but Gura vacuums up Japanese content though. She might not be able to tell you about this seasons anime but she can pull a decade old reference of IM@S out of her ass.>>43387387>normie>autistic as shit>miku wife>(2D) idolfag>city popShe'd be a normie if she were Japanese, but she isn't.
>>43387632aka, hikakin will take most of the viewers just like in the apex tourneys
>>43387596If that's true, girl has 6 or 7 days left if my math is correct.
I just realized that finana have a new outfit at the same time as ina 3dWonder wtf happen inside riku's brain, new wave during holofes, new outfit when ina having 3d showcase
>>43386866>plays block game next>gets 40keh, i think people just aren't that invested in watching hogwarts anymore
>>43387866It was 1h before
>>43383983>>43384503I'd say it's NijiEN's fault for the most part, because even the original NijiEN viewers were just bored holofags looking for something new.Twitch audience were never the problem because they never watched YouTube in the first place. Every new wave that NijiEN got was a reminder that HoloEN only had 11 people (now 10).But every NijiEN wave just brought with it the type of people that Hololive audience doomposted the most about it pre-Myth times. And once the yab-gi-oh started, with no hope of another EN gen in the horizon, the addition of Tempus + drama, and Tempus 2 coming out before EN3... people just ditched the hobby entirely.
>>43387842No, she has a normal American family
>>43387650The people on the top are blurry as fuck
>>43387866No, it was an hour before, sad to say
What a great investment
>>43387866Finana's was the hour before Ina.
>>43387779>>43387840AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy shit the first army numbers are kinda in the shitter now. I applaud their passion for the games but jesas it's number poison.
>>43387779>tumblr
>>43387650They couldn't find top left nigga's JPG? They had to save a blurry thumbnail?
>>43386615Hololive girls shouldn't play games that have majority female fanbases.
>>43386136>60K viewers
>>43387848>IM@S out of her ass.>miku wife>city popyes, as i said japanese music
>>43387866Despite the bad numbers it was an hour before
>>43387863Has Ayame ever done a 3 months blank in YT activity?
>>43387775who the fuck buys a gong for a birthday
>>43387863I can't imagine getting a 3 month "break" and still getting thousands of dollars. Lucky shits don't know how good they have it. La+ probably still doesn't even want to come back.
It's 2023 and people are still doubting the rabbit? You retards know what happens every time you do that right?
>>43387916Self-hating filipinos are the most honest race in the world
>>43387848Idk why people have this perception Gura watches no anime. Yeah she doesn't talk about it as much as some of the others in EN like IRyS but she still watches seasonals if they interest her. (aka if it's a CGDCT show)
I miss el peruANO
>>43387969retard
>>43387885I watch every stream but hogwarts is so tiring so i'll just vodwatch it
>>43387969newfag newfag newfag
>>43387969HoloEN vod views is gigaculled retard.
>>43387603Why are you proud of being colonized by the mutts, pagpagbro?
>>43387989Chinese?
>>43387360>JP cull is 10%Yeah that doesn't look like 10% champ
>>43388000No one cares. Gura is back so she's irrelevant.
>>43388038Most of the world is colonized by America
>>43386942It's called projection
We all know that YouTube doesn't count holodex's number. I checked holodex and it had around 33k viewers at that time. So it's safe to say that Ina's actual numbers for her 3D reveal is at 90kish.maybe around 100k+ if we also count adblock users (YouTube doesn't count adblock views as views)
>>433880532020 isn't even on that chart.
>>43386334You just posted my cute daughter
I'm going to watch HoloID and Kiara play Mario Party.
>>43387711And how did they turn out? Tempiss is floppingThey could've dumped the resources they spent on tempiss on genuine EN for far far more ROIHell, I don't actually care that they debuted the homos - I care that they're obviously wasting staff and resources on them instead of for EN, or worse, delaying EN3 to give tempiss time to "shine"
>>43387387Ok, thanks for the replies. Used to watch her in the beginning but her content just wasn't for me and most of my info was bits and pieces from here that painted her as a normie, but it seems she's not.
>>43388053holy retard, where do newfags liket his cunt come from?
>>43388153
>>43388153Holy fuck what a jam packed month. Imagine JP7 or EN3 dropping here.
>>43388128didn't ask indocuck
>>43387973It's not just the music though, she enjoys the culture around it too. I feel like just saying>she likes Japanese musicimplies she's just a casual who listens to the music. She's into rhythm games, the idol experience, the atmosphere that city pop brings etc.>>43388008Eh, maybe I'm projecting my own experience onto her but I think she's not really watching anime these days. Not that watching or not watching anime really matters unlike what /a/ thinks.
>>43387932it's not the game it's some new type of shadowban that youtube has instilled on them recentlynotice how all around the numbers are worse since the end of january and no, seasonal changes don't account for all of it
>>43388210If they did it, they'd do it after Holofes. Quite possible.
>>43387711Tempus did big damage to HoloEN and brought near nothing of their own in return. This is also not considering that they took away all potentional buffs and hype that EN3 would have brought.Tempus should have been released at a point where the EN branch was more stable after long awaited events had happened, not in the middle of a fucking event drought
>>43388210March 8-9-10 would be perfect for a new gen
>>43388221no its the game
>>43388221It's the game.
>>43387360JP had less bot viewers than EN
>>43388118here you gocombined we have more than half of the viewers culled
>>43388153Why does the debut anniversary use the symbol for a new driver?
>>43388210Unlike JP, EN is safe because they do their debuts all in one day. Unless JP decides to switch it up and use the relay style, which they may have to start doing to prevent clutter.
>>43387932All of Pekora's hogwarts streams had been over 20k. Give nousagi time to wake up and join the stream. She'll get around 22-24k this stream
>>43388218Who even cares about anime in 2023? What do people even want to watch? Spy Kids? Chainsaw Man? Manga that were sort of relevant like 6 years ago. Is there any decent new IP anime?
>>43388303It's the day they officially became a newbie Vtuber.
>>43388153>4 JP birthdays>3 EN birthdays>1 ID birthday>1 jp homo birthday>ID3 anni>uproar anni>Roboco anni>holofesDamn this has to be the biggest month out of the year.
>>43388249>>43388269pekora got 25k with fucking yokai watchit's not the game
>>43388244It would be 10/11/12, they won't debut new ENs on a weekday. The timezone of Anya's birthday means its not a big deal, they can just work it out with her so she's not overlapped.
>>43388186>only one cull countswhy?
god imagine how grim things would be if vshitshow blew up instead of hololive
>>43388367And what makes you think wizard shit part whatever is more popular than yokai watch one or two?
>>43388289Uh...that's not half - that looks more like a quarter to third dropAre you treating the 5k line as 0?
>>43388289You can see it best in similar content. Go check out the numbers for Pekora's Minecraft streams before and after December 20th 2020.
>>43388460894984984 Veibae clones on Twitch instead of 894984983?
>>43388321True. Sometimes I forget JP does debuts day by day. EN though I think should adopt it or at least not clutter it like how Council did all in one day.
>only EN gets culledPekora during her peak unculled power was pulling 50-70k during her minecraft streams
>>43388218She only ever really talks about it when someone sends her a SC or asks about it. I know before her break she mentioned she was watching Bocchi and that was just last seasonLike I said, she'll watch seasonals she just doesn't buy into the "OMG you have to watch [x] show it's the NEXT big thing"
>>43388520Funny. I remember peko being under 10k during CCVID.
>Pekora was pulling 50-70k during her minecraft streamsNumberrabbit has reclined
I'm seeing all the clips from Ina's 3d spring up and now I'm thinking maybe spreading out the debuts wasn't a horrible idea. Gives the streams time to breathe, gives the event juice time to recharge, gives time for clips from each of the girls to get some airtime and build hype for the next one.
>>43388485first cull12K to 9K>3K dropsecond cull13k to 7k>6K dropall together a 9K drop in average ccvanon? thats way more than half
>>43388505They spread EN debuts across a day to try encompassing multiple timezonesJP and ID don't need to do that
Just when I thought Hogwart couldn’t recline even harder, this is Shin-chan tier number for PekoraI have never seen the effect of different audience demographic so clearly before
>>43388505>EN though I think should adopt itEven if they do, every branch will change to EN style eventually. As more gens pour in, months are becoming filled with anniversaries and birthdays, and its more convenient for the company to have the gen anniversaries be in one day.
wasnt there supposed to be a haachama mumei collab today
>>43388668Good thing we have proof you're wrong. Cope some more faggot.
I completely missed Ina’s 3D, I think this would be the same for others in JST. I’ve completely forgotten to even check streams during the day, since most people are working (yes even on sundays)
>>43388686............
>>43386802Subnautica final part when?
>>43388718Oh yeah. I never thought of it that way. I guess they would want to ease up more days for future talents/gens.
>>43387898>people just ditched the hobby entirelyCan’t blame them. Once NijiEN became popular enough that indies started admiring that shit, it was all downhill from there. Makes me somewhat believe the rrat that Cover can’t find EN3 because they’ve all been plagued by nijishit.
>>43388015>>43388022>>43388035>1,5 million subs>40K viewsKEEP COPING HOLOBRONIES LMAO
It's always weird seeing named mods chatting in ID stream chats, are these staff? They wouldn't be just fans, right?
>>43388833
>>43387229nah, 60k is safeMarine alone is capped at 50-55k
>>43388838Most of them are indies or Maha5 or shit like that.
>>43388833>timezonesIt'll reach 300k views. Not everyone can be available at the same time. EN has a huge global appeal after all.
>>43388875Didn't ask for your selfie.
>>43388781............................ no argument?
>>43388838I mean Kronii has her own mods too
>>43388875nijibronies...
>>43388929>1,5 million subs>300k views>holocucks think this is impressive
>>43388875Fulgur?
>>43388838Look at their profile pics and names. They're probably other ID chuubas.>>43388942Never understood this though. This is just retarded. If you're going to have mods have them not show themselves.
>>43388948God damn, I've seen that photo 100 times in this thread and somehow never noticed the pony
the hololive hiroshima of yabs is coming
>>43388997A...anon? Are your eyes OK?
>>43388978Too fit.
Should I convert the SC to USD or just leave it in Yen?
EN GLOBAL GOLD TODAYNOTHING WILL STOP IT
>>43389070do both
>>43389070PLEASE DON'T FUCKING DO THIS
>>43389028My marriage announcement... I'm sorry you all had to find out this way. But Towa is now my husband.
>>43389070might as well stick to yen, its neat and people can do the conversions.
>>43389070USD
>>43389079King gold incoming
>>43389079Marine will masturbate live on stream. Ina's 3D tentacles were too much for her.
>>43389070Oh, I completely forgot, at least I always can cope with chicken SC numbers.
>>43388975In reality this happens to everyone in existence. So what is your point?
>>43388975
omg dont look at miko's number
>>43388734No, I think Mumei said possibly Sunday. No confirmed date
>>43389191Is this real?
>>43389111>>43389151>>43389163Should I use playboard for the USD or just convert with google?
>>43389070Ina, Gura, and Ame probably gunning for last place here. Mori is king and Kiara a close second.
>>43389070does mori have a wine? if not she should if she's just gonna be branded with it
>>43389219It's so much worse than you can possibly imagine
>>43389223Is there any difference?
Scarle...
>>43388940You do realize CCVID only lasted a month, right?Only the 2020 cull remains in effectBtw that graph >>43388289 actually masks how brutal CCVID was since it's a rolling 30-day average so it includes pre- and post-CCVID numbers in those averages
>>43389223Moona delayed the stream by 30m and is still 15m late
>>43389219https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2th8u38gUMi dunno anon
>>43389070This is fucking sad
>>43389263Playboard doesn't count pre stream SC I think
>>43389265Don't feel too bad. It's a fake birthday anyways.
>>43389265>4views wihout raidLets goo
>>43389196I lookedAs expected
thoughts on Kanauru
>>43389265Are there non-handcam streams for Scarle?
>>43389265>handcam birhtday>handcam totsumachi>handcam superchat reading>handcam minecraft stream>handcam honkai impact stream>handcam offpako
>>43389356Mediocre 3D artist
>>43389356I fucking hate his style
>>43389356mumei likes him so i like him
>>43389196>checks miko>checks pekomaybe everyone is getting culled todady...
>>43389301They do, but poorly because they are slow at tracking when the waiting room appears.
Holokeks status?
>>43389356Ignoring the Unityfagging. I don't like that he just add a shit ton of references to all his works.
>>43389356Works very fast, used to be a bit of an annoying unity/nijibeggar but toned it down a lot
>>43389356cute the first time overused by the second
>>43386537rorurumao even
>>43389412Nah it’s just HogwartI have never seen a game that depend so much on audience demographic before. If you have a female dominant fanbase then this game is a huge buff. If not then it’s a debuff cause man won’t stick around for Harry Potter stuffs
>>43389420Google then
Why is it that every time an EN does something big. This board automatically have a meltdown?
>>43389449uma delicia
>>43389356zoomer, likes valorant, mommy kiwawa and uncledad mori, kusogaki
>>43389449>Female Vtuber>First stream only 22kBro…this is not the own you think it is
>>4338944922 million? 18 million?
>>43389496even females are getting sick of it. Kuzuha went from 70k to 42k to 31k
>>43389496>man won’t stick around for Harry Potter stuffsI do
>>43389449Sopa de macaco
>>43389356Cover should move to bigger and better things. "Grow up Hololive!"
>>43389369Yes but handcam is probably at least 1/3rd of her streams. They even made fun of it on Millie's /vt/ stream. "all she does is handcam!" or something like that.
>>43389526If you're going to use hololyzer, either update Ina's every time you update the other girls, or keep today's exchange rate and use it on the other girls for it to be fair. Shit changes a lot.
Oh yeah how much Luca get for his comeback stream?
>>43389356I wish he did more holos in real life contentThat was peak Kanauruhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OODn25UOOGY
>>43389620But Shion doesn't wanna...
>>433896417k
>>4338964123k
Wait did Peko just lend the prime time slot to Marine today? I smell something big coming
>>43389579post dick or GTFO
>>43389541The nijisisters crawl out from under their piles of MLP plushies to shit things up
>>43389283This guy's voice absolutely does not fit his avatar.
>>433896416K or something, one of the reasons why nijisis full on seethe mode
>>43389356soulless works after he started doing official videos, used to like his random short mocapped animations
>>43389637Don't worry I'll update everything after Ame's 3D.
Kiara's offpako 8.4k
>>43389579I have something to tell you then...
Kiara story about Pekora yesterday was so funny. Dunno if you guys heard it yet
>>43387210>if they had 20 streamers right now they'd be the main branch in terms of sheer popularity and numbers.EN popularity died with the end of the lockdown, and if they had more members they would just cannibalize each other, only with a perfect storm EN can go back to its glory days, which will probably never happen
>>43389785I thought it was kind of sad, not funny.
>>43389356He can do very good when kept on restraint, see DO U. The girls appreciate him so I appreciate him.
Why is this place jealous of HoloEN all the time?
>>43389703>Ina invited 3 JPs>ID1 only invited TowaIndog status?
>>43389641here anon>>43389688why lie anon?
yabhttps://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1627181584347725825
>>43389786EN popularity died because they couldn't keep up with demand. With constant breaks and burn out fans lost interest.
>>43389265Quick, sister!!!!!POST SUPERCHAT NUMBER!!!!
>>43389785>listening to kiara say anythingno thanks
>>43389875Risu invited Korone.
>>43387210Council is shittier than HoloX and there’s no reason to believe the next gen after Council will do any betterAlso if you want to use sub then Council just lost to HoloX in it
>>43389878Cull
>>43389699>19 JST>Prime time
>>43389785The story is: Kiara didn't know Pekora was in the room, and when it was pointed out to her, she lost her spaghetti. That's the story, hilarious.
>>43389786That doesn’t explain the drop in popularity of both HoloEN and NijiEN around Tempus/iluna’s debut. Most stuff in NA at least had already been opened for some time. There seemed to be a noticeable drop off in the August/September range of 2022.
>>43389893I blame council
>>43389070add new member and 24 hour vod please
Why does # always try to drag HoloEN down when they're doing something major?
>>43389833It’s funny to me cause it just further proof that Pekora seem to be a rather intimidating person. Also the story imply PekoMari is always with each other in the studio just because
Kiara is carrying ID branch
Oh great. The "acshully EN3 will be bad for HoloEN" timeloop. How fun.
>>43390014not really
It seemed like they fixed a lot of the clipping for Ina and the noodle arms. Hopefully everyone has improvements. Are there any big streams scheduled for today? I haven't seen anything so far.
>>43389946Sorry I keep forgetting it was JST, 21:00JST is usually my timezone 19:00
>4 people Offcollab including the biggest ID and EN boost>sub 10kHAHAHAHA INDOKEKS
>>43389893Since Luxium, Anycolor and Cover have debut 19 males and 6 females to the EN market. Maybe fans didn’t want to see that shit and bailed?
>>43390047Kiara didn't even know who the fuck she was. It's just the fact that she was Pekora that was intimidating to her.
>>43389936>still No EN3>Debut more homo insteadAnd also homosister be like>AIEEEEE PLEASE NO EN3 , OR MY BOI WILL GET BURY ALIVE
What the soda doing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fgVpBlItDg
vshojo status?
I swear to god, even if HoloEN manages to hold a concert at AT&T Dome in the US, you people will keep saying EN market is dead.
>>43389875>holo v holoah yes the nijisister coping mechanism
>>43390101Her arms still look like ass
>>43389878How much he could get if it was three months ago? Before NijiEN reclined ark
>>43390101>Are there any big streams scheduled for today?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIaTI20gkXw
>>43390051to you KFP that comes here for some reason, explain to me why Kiara has here hands like that all of the time? it's not cute it looks weird
>>43390150Farming achievements.
>kiara ran away to indonesia because myth chased her out for being annoying
>>43390153tf happened to her titskinda remember them being huge
>>43390138there's no such thing as biggest id
>>4339018623k
>>43390153Is she seriously suggesting vtubers inspire children to be prostitutes or some shit?
>>43390138>10k gettothanks anon
>>43390199Isn't that outside of primetime?
>>43390236What do you mean anon?
>Holo vs Holo>Doomposting HoloEN>Doomposting Cover IPOThat pretty much sums up the thread in just last week alone
>>43390253it says twitch
It's funny that everyone shits each other's number while everyone's number is crashing down
>>43390138Show me 4 people offcollab NijiID plus NijiEN sub 10k numbers faggotalso RRATS RRATS RRATS RRATS RRATS RRATS RRATS RRATS fucking kobo lmao
The Nijiniggers seem to be going full force in Holo vs Holo. Are they afraid of something coming?
wait is ollie even there? i only hear the chicken
>>43390231What game is that?
The audio is much better than Myth's offcollab
>>43390140It wouldn't be hard to reignite the market. Hololive needs to introduce a new gen of girls for it to bring back a good chunk of new fans and old fans since it's what started it off.
>>43390317That may be, but it's still Marine - she can pull 60k stream, see yesterday
>>43390180Look Selen, I know body positivity is a thing over there but it's not good or attractive to have that much weight.
>>43390140>19 males and 6 females to the EN marketAre you for real?
HoloID is the perfect example of an appropriately managed branch. Actually managed to organize something and events. Ignore Ollie, I hate her too.What’s the excuse for holoEN?
collab in the tally?
>>43390429Laziness
>>43389191I don't even know who this is, schizo.You're a very sad person.
>>43390153Nice, good old 'think of the children'.
Mori will beat Risu at least...
>>43390369>only hear the chickenSo it's like every other collab Kiara is in
>>43390147Hololive shares microscopic amounts of fans with Tempus. If anything EN3 would bring Tempus more traffic.
>>43390369You can hear all of them actually
>>43389785I don't know if Pekora has grudge or what against Kiara?>Doesn't talk shit while in the same room with Kiara>Finally someone pointed out>She just feel intimidated and say hiMeanwhile we have Gura Ina interaction>Go to studio>Meet some girls>already could guess it was Marine and Pekora>Gura and ina want to hug but hesistant>Marine and Pekora got their gesture instead offering both of them hugs
>>43390429busy owning the unicorns and supporting "the cause" while using their budged to debut more homos
>>43390409They are literal sticks dude, I can't stop looking at it
>>43390412Noctyx - 5 malesTempiss and Tempoop - 8 males,Iluna +xflop - 6 males, 6 females
>grey-blue and gray-redis this combo strong or is it just minecraft buff?
>>43390513bet your balls
>>43390464pomu...
>>43390536Hearing Kiara, Ollie and Kobo at the same time, the idea alone gives me headache.
>my skin is more yellow than yours, KiaraKobo...these lines
Does Holo vs Holo work anymore since no one is biting that bait?
>>43390607grim
>>43390539nobody likes kiara anon
what is the ratio of white girls to non white girls in en? is there a correlation between being white and getting numbers?
>>43390574forgot image
>>43390559>tempoop>xflophavent checked their numbers since debut, how are they doing rn?
>>43390341I don't even think it's vtuber fans at all. Just people hating on everything to get a rise.
>>43390622Wait until proper JP hours to witness the relentless ENshart vs last samurai samefaggedon
>>43386302Yea, 60k range is slip-range against an e-celeb leeching King.
Kinda funny with all the doomposting about HoloEN, but /vt/ is always the fastest when HoloEN streams.WHy is hat?
>>43390604I expected worse but so far it is not that bad
>>43390667With one or two exceptions, all are bordering 3-view zone
>>43390711>blueboard
>>43390539"see you in 9 months"
>>43390711English board.
>>43390711Wow actual retard
>>43390711i miss susposting
>>43390622that won't stop him from continuously posting it until someone eventualyl bites
>>43390153onlyfans has 10k ccv!? Never went to that site
>>43390711We love hate posting here
Can't they just play minecraft for offcollab
>>43390756which stream was this? minecraft collab?
>>43390711Bitter shitbags waiting for something interesting to happen. So they put all that hate here but when HoloEN does something note worthy they'll bend the knee and praise it being the closet self hating faggots they are.
>>43390607Gura's 3D concert was a dumb surprise and the [3D Birthday] was added to the title later
>>43390559Jesus Christ. And has any one of them been a success that warranted this level of abrupt change to the market? (Obviously the girls in Manjisanji wasn’t going to be a success, not when Luxium was prowling for a chance to leech off whatever success they could muster) Luxium has some minor success and suddenly every one throws cocks onto the wall trying to recreate something they should’ve known couldn’t be done.
>>43390756I forget what are they talking about
>>43390253>Is she seriously suggesting vtubers inspire children to be prostitutes or some shit?Okay but hear me out, in Vshojo's case, there's literally one who does
>>43390513I doubt itShe has worse numbers than Ina, even for eventsand she already heavily spoiled her 3D with two full 3D streams (new underworld order sololive, sinderella concert)plus I think she used home 3D on more streams than any other myth member except Ame
Just enjoy this japan arc while it last because EN management is waiting for the to return in united states of california
>>43390253No, that's fucking Tiktok that's doing it. It's actually sickening, and I wouldn't be surprised if some hammers end up dropping on people over it, Tiktok can't even keep up with it even with human moderation.
>>43390756context?
>>43390539I doubt it given they've apparently already recorded something together.
>>43390838cope
>>43390845It's FOMO problem
>>43390869Literally who
>>43390153I still remember when this retard tried to cancel this bratty shark early on lmao. I wish she actually believed any of the dumbshit she spews because the knowledge that she would forever seethe at Gura's success would please me.
>>43390822Why is hate posting even a thing anyway? Like, there's no positive thing about hate posting aside from relieving pent up stress.
>>43390887Can't wait. They'll lock them away in a tiny little box of no perm purgatory. Only to rot away and burn out again.
>>43390756>Le cherry-picked 5ch screenshot
>>43390513Anon Mori already had a 3d debut (real) and beat Risu.Why do you obsess over a 3d showcase?
i still don't understand what huke was thinking with kiaras default outfit
>>43390898>>43390858>>43390817Holotalk with Pekora was on that date, so I guess that
>>43390976Bitter fags who can't just enjoy things unironically.AKA zoomer culture issue.
>>43390926That's Cover's problemAnycolor's just ACCELERATING into the ground as usual
>>43391006irony
>>43390898>>43390858>>43390817Pekora was on holotalk and Kiara played a 14 minutes long clip
>>43390976You said it. Pent up stress and trolling out of boredom. That's it. Also some good memes come from it too but its rare cuz /vt/ as a whole just steal other boards memes.
>>43390539Kiara is a moderately attractive, extroverted white woman that speaks Japanese on a conversational level. Is it really surprising that the more introverted Japanese members might avoid her? Or why someone like Marine seems to gravitate toward her?
Lamy is talking about EN mogging them again...
>>43390947Project Melody, a literal e-whore
>Finana 12.9k outfit reveal>Luca 7.6k return streamExplain these low as fuck numbers
>>43390845>And has any one of them been a success that warranted this level of abrupt change to the market?No, but it's the same thought process with trying to debut Gura killer (or WoW killer, Marvel killer, etc.) - trying to replicate perfect storm of circumstances is bound to fail
>>43390756Wow, this google translate reads just like a typical holo thread here, interesting
>>43391040I think I saw a clip titled something like "Pekora dozing off" about holotalk.
>>43391056>Kiara is a moderately attractiveAnon...your taste reps
>>43391093Finana is about right. That's the normal numbers for Niji's outfits reveal.
>>43391093yeah, nijien didn't do as well as they expected
>>43391056>moderately attractive
>>43390325It's the only thing they can talk about because all the actual yabs keep happening to everyone else.
>>43391140I know you like Chris Chan, but at least admit Kiara is cute
>>43390926And now Cover has 8 leeches that’ll latch on to HoloEN until they’re sucked dry.
>>43391070She also supports murdering children
>>43391057I wonder if all of the complaining JPs did in 2020 and 2021 about EN made management neglect EN going forward since 2022.
>>43387213homolover I argued with months ago mentioned that BAE said they have the same managers or some shit like that in a member stream, said homolover was also a niji fangirl so I don't exactly believe her. She was also pushing "Mumei is homo-friendly because she collabed with stars JP that one time" btw>>43387021Well since for 2022 we got Tempus and even more fucking Tempus instead of EN3 it's pretty clear that they share the same resources at least to some extent.
>numbers thread>holobronies chatpostingI wonder if you'll ever figure out why people hate you.
>>43391056>moderately attractiveMaybe with 8 filters and you squint
>>43391093EN reclined as a whole and the only hope is unironically HoloEN because their only ones capable of putting out streams with above 10k ccv consistently.
>>43391056>moderately attractivelet me guess you like Mori too
Lamy talking about Ina cute and Kobo talking about first seeing an europeanthis will do numbers
>>43391149I thought 20k was the minimum for outfit reveals..
>>43390400Will old fans actually come back? How many actually left rather than just becoming low activity due to people heading back to in-person classes?
>>43391224Did Niji win gold today?
>>43391056There are only 2 attractive ENs and Kiara is not one of them.
always funny seeing brown 2s call an EN unattractive
>>43391254that 2020 mori pic is pretty cute
>>43391224
>>43391070But does she actively encourage people to be like her?
>>43391181I'm afraid I cannot. She looks positively frumpy.
>3D baits getting deleted in the catalogI didn't know we had a Tako mod, pretty based though
>>43391056>Kiara is a moderately attractiveThanks too orc or eggschizo I want to fuck not only Kiara but her RM too
>>43391203kys
>>43391259Chigusa got 6.7k and Chima got 10.8k
>>43391298Her and Amouranth inspire digital prostitution with their ridiculous success, yes.
>>43388833Golds doko?
>>43391056You guys are too hard. He even gave it a "moderately"
>>43386836Not sure if Council will use their 3Ds after fest, according to Fauna they can't even use their smols outside of VR chat. Since Myth can, maybe Council is under different rules.
>>43391284I swear, they find every single women not South East Asians to be ugly. Like, how in the fuck can their taste get so bad?
>>43391307We had a tako mod, a deadbeat mod, and a kfp mod
>Lamy talking about feeling like Myth were her senpai because they had more subs>also mentioning the inferiority complex Gokisei hadGood old times....Back when we were at the top...
>>43391283Alright anon let's hear it then
Nijifags trying really hard today.
>>43391056Kiara face's looks like a mii character
>>43391389>, according to Fauna they can't even use their smols outside of VR chat.I'm still seething about this, by the way.
Le sad shork post
>>43391057Why is she such a jealous bitch? No wonder she's popular with jpniggers who also can't get over gen 5 getting mogged by Myth hard 2 years ago and keep holding a grudge now
>And for us as well, we got really anxious about when we could debut, the state of the world really affected things>Nebolabo had a longer time to prepare due to that>You'd keep getting delayed even though you got all the prep done, you'd start to worry if the contract died before you had a chanceI wonder if maybe... EN3...
>>43391389Myth made Smols on their own, I think after Cover purchased them, new rules were set up for everyone from then on.
>>43391389So she can't do VR skyrim like Gura did?
>burger hour ticks over>immediate RM talk
>>43391437Selen and mori
>>43391057Lamy is a rotten and vile menhera bitch.
>>43386836>Especially if Council themselves "spoil" it like Myth did in various streams last year, including 3D/sololives for 3/5 of themI don't think they will. Myth just gave up on the idea of a 3d debut. And as much as we lament their small peaks for the showcases, were right to do so since it ended up happening 1 fucking year later.Council is no longer bottle necked by Rona and I beleeb they'll debut this year, maybe even in the summer.
>>43391441Honestly, what can NijiEN do this month? AR concert is cancelled, most of the members have fucked off, Luxiem has gone straight to the ground.On the other hand, HoloEN has the showcases, group 3D, HoloFes, HoloEN Connect and a potential EN3 coming.
>>43391265Old fans need a reason to come back. Most of them already saw everything there is to see. Reason why big events get big numbers. They are there but they don't stay for the same old shit. A new gen with new interactions would make things interesting again.
>>43391057Doesn't she know her CCV is really big though? Or is she literally bringing it up as some sort of gloat having seen how hard she mogged Ina's 3d.
>>43391389What are the bets on Tempiss debuting smols. I can already hear the intern hyping up how much everyone loved the Holo ones so they'd love Tempiss ones. That's how Dino Gura was born after all.
>>43391557Masturbation and Off Pako collab streams.
get in holochadshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMDzTHG2ETwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMDzTHG2ETwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMDzTHG2ETw
Kiara's offpako 11k, and I think this is the first time I've found the Mario Party stream entertaining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soY4OYrcfO8Reminder that gen 5 are pieces of shit that pushed management to neglect EN just because they weren't talented enough to compete with Myth.
>>43391638Who is this?
>>43391538Ah, we have an architect here
>>43386090Can someone explain why we have two numbers threads up and neither of them are properly formatted?
>>43391650who?
>>43391499Try again next thread, Nijifag.
>>43391638I got Karaoke jumpscared
>>43391427I remember when Gura visited the JP server the first time and Lamy was there... Lamy tried her best to get an interaction or a collab but Gura just blew her off. Poor Lamy.
>>43391501why so vague?
>>43391557>Honestly, what can NijiEN do this month?Nothing. Their "comebacks" will be interesting though. Did they do lasting damage.
I've never liked Gen5 vs Myth posting. To me these were literal sister gens, the first two debuts I was there for, the twins of the 2020 golden age.I'm hoping they're gonna do something similar for JP7/EN3 (inb4 that's the gimmick behind the EN delay and they're some sort of mega gen split into two)
>>43391638>actually moaning in Treasure BoxBased literally who
>>43391686Keep seething jpnigger, gen 5 will never be as popular as holoMyth
>>43391694based goobs avoiding the leech
>>43391663>tensai group
>>43391663Give it a rest, NIjisis.
>>43391707The fact that Luca's comeback stream was sub 10k is absolutely fucking Grim. Imagine if Ina's comeback was sub 10k also.
Just tune in to civilization and instantly opened vrabi.What the hell is happening to EN? Ina is currently the top 3 most popular EN with consistently 5 digits ccv, first 3d EN debut, basically the same as Moona in ID. But she can't even surpass Moona?Damn if Gura can't break 100k then EN is dead. The last nail in the coffin would be if Kobo can trail Gura's 3d debut, or worse, surpass her.And we haven't take to account if ID4 can be even better than ID3.
>>43391501Imagine they had EN3 talents ready to go. But since its taken so long they ended up finding better hires...and cut a few of them...
>>43391772luxiem is dead anon, stop beating a dead horse.
>>43391725>gen 5 were a huge disappointment that didn't bring in any new viewers>Myth rescued hololive from gen 5's fuck ups, opened up the NA market and brought the golden age of 2020 to greater heightsOnly a newfag or a jpnigger would pretend those two gens are equal
>>43391730>holoMythtry again nijinig
>>43391730You're too obvious sister. Anyone that is regularly in these threads can see through you.
>>43391694>Lamy tried her best to get an interaction or a collab but Gura just blew her off. Poor Lamy.I have no idea what you're talking about and it was most likely 1000% Gura shark braining it. Didn't help that for years JPs were real fucking weirdos about Gura. I'm no /#/ tier schizo that thinks subs are useless but they acted like fucking shounen characters suppressed by her subs power level>b-bakana I cannot speak to the big subs shark normally
>>43390916It's not a cope, it's literally what happened.
>>43391501We knew this quite a long time ago. IIRC gen 5 was ready around March 2020.
>>43391744Maybe back then but now. EN is in a sad state of affairs and Lamy is a part of something more impressive.
>>43391794Moona edged out Ina since she unironically had Pekora's blessing and she's an overall better stage performer. Theirs nothing really complicated about it.
>>43391772wtf, isn't luca their Kuzuha?
>>43391834Kys with your retarded falseflag
>>43391573I was there when myth debuted and regularly tuned into streams. Got busy with school just after /vt/ was made and stopped watching chuubas period. Only came back to casually watch streams with Coco's graduation and decided to stay when council was announced. Based on my personal experience I do think EN3 will bring back at least some old fans who gradually dipped out because of personal reasons or just became slowly disinterested in chuubas.
>>43391725>>I'm hoping they're gonna do something similar for JP7/EN3THe misfortunes of gen5 show why thats a horrible idea
>>43391730i don't see Myth with a limited redbull fridge
>>43391744goobs should learn to avoid the NOT leeches too
>>43391557>Honestly, what can NijiEN do this month?Keep falseflagging holo EN vs JP despite this being in the year of the lord 2023, two whole years after JP regained dominance
>>43391849>JPs were real fucking weirdos about GuraMost of them still are
Nijiniggers are getting too uppity. Someone post Finana's numbers for the day.
>>43391910keep coping but you can't deny that was what actually happened, Myth were the underdogs but blew everyone away with their numbers while gen 5 are still shittier than previous gens even now with not a single breakout star
Ok guys.So Rosemi spent time in Japan with Luca. Apparently they were quite intimate together, almost like a couple on a date. Reimu and Luca already told their version of events. Rosemi is the only one left.She has up until this point, kept mentions of the meetings with Luca off her twitter account, although it's all over Reimu's. Tomorrow she is going to tell her audience about it.What do you think will happen? Will her audience abandon her after that point? For the first time her audience is going to learn about her offpako with a sexually aggressive male.
Fucking retards. Sisters finally found a Holo vs Holo that you will bite. Myth vs. NePoLaBo
>>43391849They all seemed fine talking to her during the first summer minecraft thing in 2021. Gura in my honest opinion was dealing with a lot of stress at that time and didn't want to get involved with JP members. That's it really.
>>43391947Do it yourself
>>43391914I don't see gen 5 with a 1:1 statue or even a 1:7 statue or having nendoroids for the whole gen or having a collab cafe in Korea or having omocat merch. Keep seething.
>someone talks about lamy and myth>suddenly starts the falseflagginghmmm, wonder why...
>>43391893Anon that's only half of it. It's JP primetime streams being shut down and the entire box being forced to watch the 3d event. This is catastrophic for when it happens with homos but most JOPs go "eh sure why not I'll watch this indonesian holo do it".The JP primetime is a literal daily 100k+ box so it's not like IDs even managed to gobble the entire thing up, what with ID and EOPs being there watching too.
My predictionsKiara = 40kMori = 50kAme = 40kGura = 80kI think this is reasonable
>>43390539Because she was talking to Marine? Why would Pekora disturb people conversation?If anything the fact Kiara didn’t even notice she was there show Pekora is legit a ghost to EN
>>43391694>Lamy tried her best to get an interaction or a collabNo she fucking didn't. She was just as big of a sperg about it as Gura was. I watched that fucking stream, you can't bullshit me.
>>43391892No that's mysterio
>>43391573>A new gen with new interactions would make things interesting againSome didn't even interact with the current or existing gens yet. A new gen won't fix that
>>4339202240k is too low, Kiara got 38k at euro hours with a kanauru live.
>>43392019Cope
>>43391638rare to hear someone sing shion's orisongs
>>43391993Rosemi is too good for Luca. Have you seen the guy? Unless she wants a share of dat superchat money he got.
>>43392019Isn't JP and ID prime time also basically the same?
>>43392039>A new gen won't fix thatWe'll see soon.
>>43391557they should acknowledge that they're not on the same standing as HoloEN and use the small corpo strat, where you speak glowingly of HoloEN and hope that their fans somehow splash to you when they hear it. If Finana ended her outfit reveal by shilling the Ina stream, there would be enough of an excuse for nijishills to post about it on the Holo subreddit and she could increase her mindshare this way. That's why Pomu's the strongest NijiEN now
>>43390976Because they know that the moment they do it in a place where people can pin point their sorry asses, they're toasted
>>43392032I think Luca is the strongest NijiEN member nowadaysWhich is pretty sad because he's the one I hate the most by far
>>43392044>he thinks kiara will get 90k
>>43392022>Kiara >40kdelusional KFPshart
sisters seething because their livers don't have a redbull fridge
>>43391794It's time slot you retard.
>>43392022Yeah, but I would change Ame to be 55k or 60k since Gura probably will have a song with her
>>43391670not anemachi
>>43391912I do too. I loved IRyS when she first debuted but now I can't even muster up watching her now. Like an endless loop. I just want her to befriend NEW people you know? It might sound bad but variety is what keeps a hobby alive.
>>43391849>>43391999Anons, you are replying to a shitposterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyIOweVFAsEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyIOweVFAsE
>>43392086Anon the last time they tried that everyone threw a bitchfit over it
>>43392123cope
>CCV
Risu > HoloEN
>>43392022Gura 80k would unironically not even be an incline.You can't tell me:-3d debut that's not a 3d( she has 2 lives just on her channel)-dogshit timezone on a workday with fewer JOP tourists-mostly not going to be singing, but skits in english filtering whatever JOP masses she can squeezeShould only be 10k less than:-Birthday 3d live with first army guests-at much better weekend timeslot-basically 100% singing, something all tourists can enjoy, especially from Gura who gets 30-40k karaokesSo I'm thinking 70k is more likely, with Ina actually having gotten a buff from weekend+little use of 3d unlike Gura/Mori/Ame.
>>43392076Well I wonder, do you think her audience will abandon her? Rosemi is a "cute" character who keeps her intergender collabs to a minimum, never swears or says anything mean. What do you think the impact on her audience is going to be?
>>43392169Risu > NijiEN
Well, i took a look at a lot of twitch streamers like from to xqc to pokimane and they all have similar graphs for average viewers sorted by month. Numbers pretty much starts declining around november to february and start picking up around march to summer. There are exceptions like apex streamers getting giga boosted by new season now but variety streamers have the same pattern.
>>43392022Kiara + 5kMori + 5k Ame +10kGura + 5k
>>43392136She tied the rat anchor to herself and likes it. She's a lost cause.
>>43392169>>43392197ID > EN
>>43392082Why do people keep bring this up? What the fuck does it matter? Yes, its basically the same, but it didn't matter, they didn't have 60k IDs watching them or even half of that.
>>43392169didn't know she had more ccv, merch sales, members, and sc's
>>43392197Risu > NijiEn = HoloEN
>>43391224FineWant to talk about this instead?
>>43392230ID>CN
>>43392169Risu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Niji ex-ID
>>43392131No way . . .
>>43391995Last samurai have been biting the bait since myth debuted
>>43392169INDOCHADDOMINATION
>>43391057Mogging?! You don't get to talk about mogging, you slimy knife ear bitch. Do you know ID1 felt back then? Imagine EN beating you with 20K CCV but instead of 10K which is gen5 number back then as your number, it's 1K
>>43392180probably no, she has dodged drama since debut and I doubt she wants one now
>>43392244nta but wut?
>>43392030Retard. MC is the best way to break the ice. They are too autistic to just DM them on discord for shit without a gateway. IRyS and Council utilized MC kino to the highest potential during the portal arc. Gura CHOSE to ignore Lamy and instead to pestered Shion reviving her from the dead.
>>43392243Actually I do wonder, is NijiEN actually equal to HoloEN? What they lack in individual power they make up for it with sheer quantity
>>43392151Begone, Nijifag.
>>43391224>numbers threadthread where we talk about most popular chuubas>holobronies chatpostingogey
Ayunda > Risu
>>43392019ENcope
>>43392144Nijisis are good at twisting the word of others. It's their specialty at this point. Twisted silvervale, twisted jk rowling words, and twisted their own livers words at the points it cancels them. They're a Canceling blob of mob.
>>43392297this*cums on you*
>>43392169she is losing in all metrics that make her or Cover money compared to EN
>>43392303Retard.>>43392144
>>43392289What exactly was ID supposed to feel? They were always the underdogs. Shitposting aside, they still are the lowest performing holo branch. JP5 walked in there joining the top dog branch and got turned into underdogs. It's not the same.
Why are you retards biting Nijisisters' bait?
Ohnonono, falseflaggers shitposters, why is your queen graduating?>>43391579
>>43391573>Meanwhile, 80k Japanese can show up for the #123124 concert Unironically skill issue
>>43392136Some of the ENs do have a pretty limited collab roster. IRyS's thumbnails almost always have an R percentage bigger than 70%. There's also the fact that IRyS is kinda alone in her timezone so I don't blame her that much for not collabing with other ENs. But a new gen and big collabs would present an opportunity for someone like her to interact with other girls more.
>>43392330you can take Risu, i will fuck Ayunda instead
>>43391224HoloboardHolothreadSeethe about it
HoloEN =
>>43392377>FB_IMG
>>43392409Yeah anon, nothing is equal to holoen
>>43392377>FB_img
>>43392350>a few dumb in game messages>didn't see Lamy's last message>no collabSure.
>>43392425They are unique and irreplaceable.
>>43392213comparison pic?
>>43392144>7 september 2021is this really what he was talking about though? that's 1 year later from the sad Lamy cause of HoloEN saga
>>43391912This is what a lot of folks don't getFan attrition is a thing - even if you're as entertaining as ever, fans will always gradually leaveIt's the relative lack of new fans that's the main problem, moreso than EN being relatively lackluster the last several monthsWith the YT algo fucking over holos (and apparently nijis), you have to rely on big events or viral opportunities to attract tourists to convert(or borderline mainstream mindshare in the case of holo JP)
>>43392169
https://reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/115ymd3/hololive_f35chan/Boy hololive really goes everywhere huh?
>>43392449What the fuck did you expect? Gura doesn't speak japanese and Lamy doesn't speak english. What fucking collab are you talking about, retard?
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>>43392522Lamy's too jealous of Myth to learn English
>>43392394>There's also the fact that IRyS is kinda alone in her timezone so I don't blame her that much for not collabing with other ENsWhat the fuck are you talking about, bitch literally streams in NA primetime.
>>43392394I have no doubt EN will get new friends. We just have to be patient and I can hopefully see IRyS in a new light again.
>>43392537king gold
>>43392537lol
>>43392521If I had a nickel for every time the Gura saluting the American flag picture shows up somewhere gun related...I guess I could buy a gun
>>43392536That Elira stream was massively advertised to all the top JP's.Kuzuha left the advertisement up on his channel for an hour as he played a game. All of the other top JP's advertised it on their channels. It was the most advertising she could possibly get.
>>43392540Are there any jp holos who can speak English on the level bae/kiara/IRyS speak Japanese?
>>43392597Nope. Some holos keep saying they'll totally do reps, but that never happens.
I love how desperate these Nijifags are.I hate how you retards keep biting their bait.
>>43392597Achan
>>43392489That falseflagger is mixing things up, because Lamy wasn't even in the server when Gura first visit JP server.
>>43392521Pekora is a warcraminal hahaah so funny
>>43392632>i-its the nijis!
>>43392589
>>43392394IRyS literally pretty well exclusiovely streams in NA primetime though? And when she doesn't she streams in JP primetime and speaks mostly fluent Japanese. She's the furthest thing from "isolated" as you can get, she's a socially inept retard who wants to be a sololiver.
Soda 6K Holocure and being sexier than usual.
>>43386608I don't think Cover knows what they were going for with tempus, first gen wasn't really aimed at chinese sisters in terms of designs and content but some of them were sucking to fujo-friendly nijis and shoto. It's safe to say Tempus is a giant experiment Cover wouldn't dare to attempt with the main branch but I'm surprised that they did it to EN rather than ID that used to be the experimental branch for years and actually likes collabing with the Stars. I bet Omega pushed for this shit.
>>43392286Speaking of, where IS laplus?
>>43392678If she wants to be a liver why didn’t she join niji?
>>43392658This but unironically
Isn't funny that everyone can use their smol 3d models but Fauna/Council can't?
>>43392641I thought Gura visited JP server twice in a months span. It was to build up the Summer festival hype they were invited to am I wrong? Man that shit is an absolute blur now.
>>43392675https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0jMi8Zkx8o
>>43392705Deceased.
>>43392705She had to return to her home planet.
>>43392705Locked away until Holofes.
>>43392755Because they are about to get the proper 3D? >>43392705Still alive at least
>>43392705who?
>>43392694well for this one I kinda agree with you with the Omega rrat, I really thought Holostars ID will be the one that came first because ID is always the market testing grounds
>>43392768ONETHIRDOFTHESUBSCRIBERS
>>43392705>Wagah-ACK
>>43392694I mean did you really think Cover would just go full KPOP idol group to interact with the absolute goblins of JPstars? Kek. If anything they wanted to mirror JP stars to pry away the EN yumes harassing them.
>>43392597Haachama and Lui can at least converse decently judging by past collabs, and Chloe's somewhat passable. None are anywhere near being the equivalent to those three ENs.
>>43392658This but unironically, that’s her entire brand in EOP eyes
>>43391849Her fanbase is pretty obnoxious.
>>43392858Alright faggot, pipe down. The circumstances are completely different for all these 3ds, Ina's used hers a lot. Your shitposting is irrelevant. Why can't you people just talk about this stuff like humans?
>>43391389I vaguely recall this as well from threadreading, but do you have a source?