/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>43381910
>allowed
dyrbi

>63k
GRIM

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

This is the official "laugh at EN numbers" thread
>I-It'll beat ID for sure!!!
Sub-Iofi numbers for all future 3Ds except Gura

>>43381927
>Well. I was hoping for HoloX 3D debut numbers
are you high?

this 3d shit was overrated

So the takeaway is that JP viewers will tune in for event streams and NA viewers won't. It's as simple as that, even for holos whose fan base isn't primarily JP, isn't it?

I bet if Ina had streamed at the usual 3D live time holoJPs use she would have actually had more viewers than she did now. She would have traded away some of her usual viewers for grey JP tourists, but still. Not saying she should have done that because in the end it's something for her fans, but purely numbers wise JP prime time just always wins because Japanese people will simply show up.

violet doko

>>43381993
He is the runt of all of tempiss and he took his chance to try and leech

INDOGODS STATUS?

>risu with ougaman got higher numbers then ina
takos.....

>>43381071
>>43381085
that's capitalism baby

ENkeks. Apologize to us IndoCHADS.

>63k peak, 42k like
what the fuck with the ratio????

>>43381910
They are all allowed in her chat because of the Collab song she did with Axel, doesn't mean they will ever Collab though

>>43382071
Dunking on nijikeks

I guessed 65k for Ina, got 63k
other guesses are
>45k Kiara
>55k Watson
>80k Gura
I cant really guess Mori i feel like shes a wild card but ill give her the beneift of the doubt for
>60k min

>>43381959
Recent clip numbers
>>43249447
>>43249495
>>43249538
>>43249582
>>43249632

So did Myth 3D just lose to HoloX 3D? Like by a fuck ton?

>>43381959
Kiara will bring in Marine and Pekora. Easy 70k

Damn, Triangle's fans really shell out those gifted memberships

Should've done it in JP primetime. What the fuck. Nijiniggers will shit up the thread now.

As much as I understand why they have it in EN primetime, all 3D debuts should be done in JP primetime. EN Viewers just don't fucking watch shit live.

Imagine waking up at 4AM for this

these numbers would be fine if they were the lowest in myth
jesas...

>>43369421

I think that one anon was right, the CCV was just being updated slowly so it was reflecting the Star Driver increase during the merch section.

>>43381939
Or Reddit.

Reminder that Gura's 3D Showcase is on a Thursday

Remember when before the cull gura's outfit could get 190K peak viewers? good times
fuck youtube chinks, trannies, roasties whoever is responsible for these shenanigans.

>>43382071
Enjoying the showcase so far my friend.
Hoping the best for all of the EN girls.

>>43382071
ID3 will get 3D debut instead of showcase. Indochads shall rise

>3d "debut" not the debut
>hologra "debut" not the hologra debut (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ3--0NvUa8/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrpz5U6eO78))
Myth...

I think nijisisters are seething because they can only get a 3D once in their lifetimes while holos could do it maybe thrice a year now

nijinogs tying ropes on their necks

homo couldn't help himself

>>43382154
HoloX 3D is the highest 3D anon. Everyone lost to that

Okay numberbros, give us your updated predictions for the rest of Myth 3D.

>>43382154
Debut versus Showcase.

Let the falseflagging begin. Everyone can go take a look how close most were couple of hours before stream. Quite many

>>43382205
sir guras outfit was after the cull

>>43382058
>>43381887

im guessing duringthe full myth showcase, they will be sing individually

>>43382274
GRIM

>>43382274
Kiara 30k
Ame 50k
Mori 50k
Gura 65k

* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 02/17/2023 *
(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)
>358,337 Kenmochi Toya (ANYCOLOR) (163.5%)
>327,299 Usada Pekora (COVER) (45.9%)
>281,446 NeruMero (Indie) (274.6%)
>225,545 Kazama Iroha (COVER) (54.1%)
>221,468 Aizawa Ema (Brave Group) (31.1%)
>209,954 Aki Rosenthal (COVER) (768.9%)
>174,546 Komori Met (774 inc) (48.3%)
>171,939 Tokino Sora (COVER) (592.5%)
>160,001 Yukihana Lamy (COVER) (255.9%)

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>82,391: Marine (Hololive)
>30,999: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>30,598: Koyori (Hololive)
>30,188: Gura (Hololive)
>25,421: Salome (Nijisanji)
>25,354: Chloe (Hololive)
>24,514: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,389: Miko (Hololive)
>21,666: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,412: Towa (Hololive)
>14,312: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,025: Botan (Hololive)
>13,612: Hololive (Hololive)
>13,198: Subaru (Hololive)
>12,839: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,811: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,682: Karuta (Nijisanji)
>10,554: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,511: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,447: Luna (Hololive)

What the fuck is wrong with YouTubes view reporting? 31kviews 62k live viewers???

>>43382198
The rrat that Ina used to be Hololive's Reddit mod before debuting grows in power

>>43382071
Laughing at the resounding failure of NijiEN.

>>43382251
Hope he gets berated and has to up his tranny pill dosage to cope. Enjoy your permanent 3view failure status you piece of trash.

>>43382274
>Kiara 40k
>Mori 70k
>Gura 80k
>Ame 40k
>3D Myth 30k

I would like to change my predictions
>Ina 60k
>Kiara 50k maybe even 40k
>Mori 70k
>Gura 90k
>Ame around 60k

>>43382071
Feeling good brother. Can't beat the Indons. Nope. Not the Indons.

>>43382251
Honestly I don't wanna put an efffort to shit on this guy but wtf

why the fuck didn't cover do the streams during jp prime time? the EN audience don't watch streams.
Moona's gonna mog the shark for sure

>>43382057
The takeaway is that there aren't that many EOPs to tourist boost something.
And no shit JP primetime would boost it, look what it did to ID, it gave them numbers they will never reach on their own because the circumstance requires a hard shutdown of JP primetime.

the fuck is a ramen stopper

>>43382251
Shot his shot, but I don't get the point, not like she was going to notice him in that chat

>>43381919
Don't worry when sony finally buy cover stocks, homo will get the boot

Myth gets culled so much that it isn't even funny anymore

>sing unravel
>dont unravel
Numbers deserved

>>43382205
Outfit was after the 2020 cull. Yes, gura got 190k while under that cull.
What we have today is some sort of verification issue that's lingering from late 2021 CCVID, and some sort of actual recline

>>43382274
numbers? 2 of them will not get gold and 1 of them will get silver

>IRyS 2.0 reveal: 90k
>Ina’s 3D debut: 60k
GET FUCKED TAKOSHITTERS. You guys were talking so much shit about IRyS’s music but this is karma. I can’t wait for IRyS to mog the rest of the myth whores. That’s what they get for collabing with Tempiss.

>>43381926
Your own fault anon.
>>43382057
I don't understand why this is news to people, we've seen this behavior over and over again. EOP behavior has more or less normalized now. But yeah, as you said no sense in doing it in JP-time, chasing numbers for the sake of numbers, particularly since that'll just be recycling the JOP fans and alienating the EOPs who do watch events. I'll go out on a limb here though and say that it's possible the VOD might see higher-than-expected growth though.

>EN #2 (#1 without Gura)
>First ever HoloEN's hyped and long awaited 3D Showcase
>Asked JPs to join
>Saturday night (NA) & Sunday morning (SEA)
>Sang + gacha fanservice
>Still struggled to beat Elira by less than 10k, and couldn't beat Moona
This is concerning for future non-Gura 3D showcases, HoloENbros...

>>43382392
you guys need help if you think this is actually a smart idea

The more important question is if Ina's 63k is slippable.

Koyori is such a good kouhai she's taking the time to shill her EN senpai 3d again.

I hope Ina gets a refund for those dance lessons because holy fuck

>sub ID numbers
EN bros...

>>43382345
Anon, don't broadcast your newfaggotry this hard.

>>43382071
Thought people will shitpost with Moona, turns out to be Risu instead

>>43382339
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy
16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal
17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream
18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi

>PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
35x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
4x: Marine
3x: Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

https://youtu.be/k2qu_5rwF00
https://youtu.be/k2qu_5rwF00
https://youtu.be/k2qu_5rwF00

i know that everyone made fun of my daughters number for her one year anniversary when compared to her 3d debut
but are myth seriously not gonna beat her?

https://vrabi.net/video/r8DrUubFFCQ
Choco live
>CCV: 71k
>10 guests
>Had Miko, Subaru, Marine and Pekora
>6995 unique chatters
https://vrabi.net/video/9Cc16ZBW0GY
Ina 3D
>63k peak
>3 guests for a total of like 3 minutes
>13,453 unique chatters

I wish Kiara and Ame good luck

>>43382179
They're trying to expand the market overseas, not win a gold race. If they keep everything local, it'll just grow in nipland and not expand anything.

>>43382147
Wouldn't 80k for Gura be unironically TOO good? I mean, out of all these women, she has 2 (two) 3d lives on her channel. coming just 12k short of her birthday live in a far worse timeslot wouldn't even be a recline.

I'd dare say Ina was on the higher end of possible Myth 3d, even Gura might just be a 60-70k .

>>43382441
This. Why did she even try. It's a disservice.

>>43382398
He just likes Star Driver anon, there's nothing more to it

>>43382274
Kiara 35k
Ame 45k
Mori 55k
Gura 75k

>>43382325
Wait what about Gura? Did you forget her?

Will Council 3D debut happen or will it be at holofes, followed by a 3D showcase in 2024?

>>43382274
Kiara - 40k
Ame - 45k
Mori- 42k
Gura - 70k

>>43382490
Well, it couldn't have been any lower than this?

>>43382274
Kiara 45k
Mori 59k
Gura 78k
Amelia 60k
Myth 72k

>>43382494
All it would take is Pekora doing some kind of meme stream

despite in NA hours, the chat is still dominated by JOPs

>>43382441
skill issue

>>43382395
Expalin Irys 2.0 anon. It was in en primetime and got 90k.

Ina singing was a debuff

Give it to me straight. Based on what we just saw can Kiara break 50k next week?

>>43382392
Because holo en is for western audiences?

>>43382071
Laughing. Turns out ENfags is just talk. Can't wait to read all the delicious copes.

>>43382564
Hope there's nothing more to his brain stem after he doesn't get his meds for a week.

Why don't normies watch streams?

>>43382147
yea, I can see 80k for Gura and 50k for Kiara, everyone else inbetween...
Nothing bad but nothing good to boast about, just forget Myths first 1.5 year and these numbers will look fine

>>43381352
>>43381387
>>43381388
>>43381393
Ina puts the most thought on her goods, and actively DESIGNS them in form and function, they tend to bne the most interesting, not the most popular, but the ones you can talk about the most

>>43382593
Nobody outside this shitstain thread cares about CCV, get some help

>>43382274
Reminder that ina got 60k due to the haachama shilling buff
If it weren't for her it would've been sub 60k (God forbid)

one has to wonder how nijishits have the gall to shitpost today

>>43382564
Fuck off, Flopgon, tweet about it if you want to leech, but don't go into the chat.

>>43382535
Its way harder to type with one hand while watching Choco's live, obviously.

>9 PM saturday
>holo v holo already
Come back tomorroe

>>43382519
Should've used Kobo's channel

It's kinda weird how everybody else is having fun and being happy you all are in here focusing on nothing but digits. Do you all have nothing going on in your lives?

>>43382585
>followed by a 3D showcase in 2024?
This one

sub 70k for that is kinda bad. It's a saturday night too.

the quality and numbers of this blows the fuck out of nijien and other western chuubas

>>43382398
When you post in high volume chat like that the point isn’t getting noticed by the streamer, but by the audience

All I know is, between the daki and whatever the 3D showcase merch will be, the numbers for my wallet are looking GRIM indeed...

>the spic homo stream in membership throughout the 3D showcase
Is that even allowed?

>>43382274
my hope was for everyone to beat elira
i feel pretty GRIM

>>43382574
That's Japan time, so 2 days ago.

>>43382653
Why are you in this thread?

>>43382607
>Liver Face
The fuck does that even mean?

>>43382441
i'm surprised she chose such a hard song but didn't deliver, what's the point.

>>43382535
EN attracts more grey names and shitposters

>>43382251
>the mecha homo
>male to female
> part of the FF clique
anon, just rape the shota. your oshi would want that.

Is it time to start writing my thesis on the fall of holoen?

>>43382392
>Moona's gonna mog the shark for sure
A bit impossible when Gura already beat Moona, nijinigger.
You already tried this shit when she had her birthday 3d live. Then you went to cope about "o-only 3k better than Moona". You can't reheat this bait.

>>43382392
abandon a $35m market. anon...

>Burgers get shown Ad
>numbers go up
literally mind broken by super bowl ads.
well, can't say im disappointed. (im not)
it was a good showcase, im gonna guess kiara, gura and mori might just sing.
im only curious about what ame is going to do.
like, Ina is a great artist, Kiara can dance and sing (sing poorly desu), mori can crip walk and rap
and gura can sing and dance
what the fuck can Ame, Amelia Watson can show.

>>43382274
>all of these people doubting the LITERAL goddess of vtubing gawr gura and saying she'll get sub 100k

>>43382251
Reminder that Ina hasn't mentioned Tempoop ever and hasn't mentioned Holostars since the 10 second cover shilling on her return stream
This nigga LEECHING

>>43382494
>pekora doing HP
we're safe

>>43382593
because lives are for fans??? why would she stream it to hours she don't usually stream in

>>43382655
They're just pretending to by IRyStocrats or ID fans or whatever else works to do Holo v Holo that particular minute, anon, not like they'll ever be able to post under their own colors again

abysmal superchat numbers

>>43382653
go back

>>43382370
>>43382371
>Kiara 40k
LMAO

Its basically confirmed now

NA primetime is a huge DEBUFF.

Just switch everything to JP primetime

>>43382039
Gura is Thursday, she will be the lowest

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/18 DAILY TALLY
30,174: Gura (Hololive)
9,418: Amelia (Hololive)
7,985: Millie (Nijisanji)
6,307: Uki (Nijisanji)
6,145: Ike (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft
17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke
18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mori
3x: Baelz
2x: Amelia, Fauna, IRyS, Gura
1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
24p: Mori
21p: Baelz
17p: IRyS
15p: Fauna
14p: Mumei, Amelia
12p: Ina
10p: Gura
7p: Kronii, Vox
5p: Kiara
4p: Vesper
3p: Uki, Luca, Magni
1p: Mysta, Millie

lap had the best unravel, shame what happened to her
https://streamable.com/xhefqb

>>43382585
will probably come out sooner like marine and flares

>>43382555
I can see Gura getting as low as 70k due to 3D lives sure but I trust in the sharks tourist pull.

>>43382441
Nobody wants to look bad after Kanatan made that song hers.

>>43382585
I'm guessing Council will have their idol outfit debuts at Holofes and 3D showcases later in the year.

>>43382699
Pretty sure it isn't otherwise the JPs would do just that

>>43382345
Why are you so new here, just fucking leave newfag

>>43382494
It is. Kuzuha apex with hal and hikakin collab can challenge it probably

>>43382392
Shut the fuck up nigga, its one thing to say "It'd get bigger numbers in JP primetime!", it's another entirely to actually believe or even ask for it to happen, when the entire POINT of EN is to aim for the NA+EN audience. Shit's been fucked due to a lack of ability to DO any big events, so you need to rebuild the utterly collapsed audience from the ground up, and that takes TIME, EFFORT, AND EVENTS nigga.
Running off to JP primetime would be the equivalent of 'throwing in the towel' and abandoning the lucrative NA market.

>>43382710
Lamy's face is a liver.

>>43382251
as long as this doesn't get homobeggars going I wont shit on the slipup.

>holoEN cant break new peak ccv records anymore
its over..

>>43382274
Kiara, Ame = 50k~ but if Kiara doesnt have the boring stuff and just perform althroughout 60k
Mori = 70k if she brings in suisei
Gura = 70-80k, but probably lower coz it's thursday

>people who claim EN showcase will get better number if they were on JP primetime
Were they right?

>>43382710
Nijispy watching ina

>>43382705
I enjoy the dog race but I don't pretend that the company should be caring about 100% CCV maximilisation. The other anon mentioned it but the point of a foreign branch is to cater to the foreign audience. That means putting big events like this at a time for that audience rather than going "well we might get 30k more CCV if we do it at JP time when all the EOPs are asleep and JOPs are awake"

>>43382626
Kek, won't even break 40k.

>>43382699
What's that gonna be, 100 viewers? Who cares

>>43382770
>why would she stream it to hours she don't usually stream in
Why did she then?

>>43382615
All those dance and singing lesson for nothing....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLnW6BU9zVo
>salami announcement
>it's not the "good announcement" kanji
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh bros?

>>43382691
HoloEN is dead anon. People need to stop pretending they're still in 2021. HoloEN at the moment is roughly comparible to Gen 4 JP in ability yo draw viewers

>>43382710
Lamy's "catchphrase" (the one she uses when she's joking), meaning lost in translation

Kiara will have the lowest numbers because she's shown her model the most alongside Mori, the only new thing that people might tune in is the the ass buff

>>43382801
she unraveled alright

>>43382105
>he doesn't know about the ccv and vod cull

>>43382787
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
31x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori
4x: Baelz
3x: Mysta, Ina, IRyS
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Fauna, Gura
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
46p: Mumei
38p: Ina
33p: IRyS
32p: Fauna, Amelia
29p: Baelz, Mori
26p: Vox
23p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kiara
10p: Pomu, Gura
9p: Millie
8p: Ike
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana
4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>43382726
>male to female
anon? he's still male, wtf are you thinking?

>>43382699
Different branch who cares?

https://www.tyoshiki.com/entry/2023/02/18/102226

HoloEN especially Myth is destroyed. But this 3D showcase will be the beginning of the rebuilding of their brand. I am optimistic they will incline again if they capitalize on this. But then, they tend to waste opportunities by lazing around.

>>43382626
Ehhhhh
EHHHHHHHHHH
Doubtful.

>>43382585
No way they don't get it this year. Clear up the docket and jazz

>>43382370
>Ame 40k
LMAO

>>43382626
1/3 of Mori

>>43382655
>Discussing holos
>b-but nijis!
RENT FREE

>>43382701
join the club bro
And that's not even taking into account the 10.5k yen cover is asking for the new paid stage shows

>>43382816
post hand

Should be easy ina gold unless marine later does some kind of collab buff stream.

>>43382781
Oh now you are begging for JP tourists?

>>43382908
>Different branch who cares?
Cover.
Which is why the girls had to stop for the homos showcases

>>43382884
She will have the lowest numbers because she's the least popular member in the branch along with Bae. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>43382608
Did her throat get coarse from all the smoking?

>>43382875
3D SALAMI
きtら

>>43382699
I don't care if the Stars stream over Hololive events, in fact I'd prefer it if they did.

>Ina 3D ends
>Delu gets 1k extra ccv
Saviorfags out in full force today

Imagine if gen5 didn't lose their best singer

>>43382884
???
Literally Mori, Watson, Ina and Gura have shown their models more.

>>43382392
Contrary to what this thread would lead you to believe, holos actually want to stream for their fans.
They would rather stream to half their fans than a third of their fans + a ton of tourists that don't care about them and are only here for the event.
This is why holos love member streams as well, at least some of them. It's not all about numbers, it's about them giving back to those who support them.

>>43382747
She's going to have a virtual shooting range is my guess

>>43382392
Psyops. Nijisis want Holos to move to JP time because they want it for themselves... Being abandoned by their b2 fanbase

>>43382884
3D KFP, 3D restaurant, Live Do U dance
Kiara can do a decent showcase.

>>43382649
Yeah, ok maybe why not, but let's not pretend this one wasn't just for her use first and foremost

>>43382898
transitioning like kronii, but reversed

>>43382469
Sister….., get better bait next time, ok?

There's too much random merch lately. I liked when it was just birthdays and anniversaries

wait. why is nobody talking about finana new outfit? it happened today also, no?

>>43382287
>>43382443
So assuming a 50% cull her outfit was actually close to 400K thats crazy

Takos are actually trash

>>43382914
image board?

>>43382519
No Mori, don't care.

>>43382961
>sub 60k
>Sunday Gold
Yeah, good luck with that

>>43382655
Where are the other 21k from her 3D debut?

>>43382996
https://files.catbox.moe/60t5iq.mp4

>>43382810
They did actually

I believe we can now agree IRyS > Ina

>>43382710
fucking newfag enshart

>>43382699
Didnt Fauna have to end her members for Tempiss?

>time to start using like cope, view cope, chatter # cope, chat speed cope
Like clockwork

>>43383070
anon that's almost 9 thousand dollars what are you talking about

here comes JP primetime cope begin...

>>43383061
Who?

>>43383047
Quality of a stream has little to do with the noombers.

>>43382585
Between Holofes and HoloENconnect.

>>43383070
Takos were trained not to superchat.

>>43382647
only way Myth wouldve gotten 100k's is pre-holofes showing or maybe even shortly after holofes even but its been too long now. Amelias outfit back then pulled 74k in December 2021 showing how much pull EN outfits even still had then.

>>43382773
Any IRyS fan knows Myth has had way too much spotlight, resources, and promotion devoted to them when accounting for the overall lack of talent. It shouldn't be surprising that there are people who are legitimately happy to see a Gen they view as massively overrated to so massively underperform.

>>43382469
NIJI EN doko?

>>43383070
Doesn't ina train her viewers not to member/supa?

>>43382585
maybe they try to do it sometime summer so they can also record 3D lives for their anniversary
too much copium?

>>43383098
We won't know until Irys' 3D debut

FAT FUCK WAS BRANDED (C) COVER ON HIS FAT ASS

Holobros… not like this…

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

>>43382626
Depends who she brings on? I mean if Pekora and Marine starts retweeting it then they probably will be on but i think so.

>>43382884
>Kiara will have the lowest numbers because she's shown her model the most alongside Mori
No she hasn't.
It's Mori>Gura>Kiara=Ame>Ina in terms of showing it in legitimate 3d content that made an attempt.

It's Ame>Mori>Gura>Kiara>Ina in showing it in any 3d enviroment with Ame being a spammer using it in low tier streams as surprises or zatsus. There was an entire drama with Myth grumbling that they can't use their 3d because Kiara was still hogging the "w-we'll debut any month now" ball a year ago and they were getting cockblocked from showing home 3ds.

>>43383058
3D debut always has merch, right?

>>43382938
GET FUCKED NIJIKEK

Totally organic Holo vs Holo, amirite?

>>43382392
I hope you haven't been brainrotted into thinking the CCV counter matters the most of anything in the world. It's nice to get big numbers, anon, but Ina's actual fans watch her in NA times. The ones who buy her shit, member her, etc.

>>43383117
>anon that's almost 9 thousand dollars what are you talking about
Maybe 10 fucking years ago, it's $6k now

>>43383174
>this is how tako ends after ina sits on him
lucky fat fuck

>>43382585
didn't mumei talked about returning to japan this year? maybe its for the showcase?

Was this 3d showcase worth waking up at 4AM and destroy your sleep???

>>43383157
Ironic coming from a fan of the princess who has the company pay for all her shit.

Imagine if Senchou manages to yoink the gold today as well

>>43382884
That's not the reason she'll get the lowest numbers. kiara will get the lowest 3d numbers because she's the runt of en.

>>43382535
EN is culled twice as hard as JP

Did Ina's forgetting-her-phone-at-home for 3 months impact her CCV? Maybe regular viewers are willing to forgive her but regular people don't tolerate that and probably moved on

>>43383117
Try $6500

>>43383049
both of them aren't yugo anon

>>43382884
Kiara has a big ass and can dance. I'm more worried about Amelia, she can't sing, she can't dance, her main thing is "creativity", but not the fact that Cover will realize all her ideas in 3D debut.

>>43382884
I guess she still has her weapons and her room...

>>43382655
PARASOCIAL FUCKS

>>43383225
they've been doing it since the start of stream (if not earlier), it's all so tiresome...

>>43383174
slave-branded....

>>43382816
they don't put "time nor effort" into their streams nor plan "events". they don't even stream. it's their own fault their branch is dead

>>43383070
Anon genuinely stop believing what goes on in JP land is the norm in the world. Those viewers are genuine losers who unironically have no hope in life and spend their entire day working and throwing their life savings at vtubers and anime figures. Please, genuinely seek help if you think they're a great representation of normal people in the world

What did Luca and Finana get? i wasnt paying attention to here until now.

top 10 Holo/NijiEN

HoloEN
x1: 2020
x8: 2021
x1: 2022

NijiEN
x10: 2022

>>43383164
>Doesn't ina train her viewers not to member/supa?
Pretty much. Typical western EN keeps forgetting that vtubing a business

>>43383203
Well Pekora won't be in it. Kiaras Twitter space made that clear.

>>43383233
>>43383273
Boy the yen really fell huh?

>>43383174
just sand it off

>>43382655
now see anontachi, THIS is what a dead branch looks like

>>43383174
>Cover corp tramp stamp
That flat purple fuck, how shameless

PekoMiko hours right now trying to catch that juicy funnel although Miko is fucking late

>>43383081
It's an essay about niji and holo about their finance

>>43382724
>>43382535
Ina's members in chat: 4k
Choco's members in chat: 568
Ina's all numbers overwhelm choco's numbers except CCV.

/#/ should do something again to fight to cull like we did last year.

>>43383133
Is that why her ccv boosted during shill time? That they would rather buy merch than supa?

>>43383324
Obviously gonna be Subaru.

>>43383260
>Holo beats another holo for a Gold
as a holofag this makes me seeth!! IM SO MAD!!!

Give me an argument as to why ccv matters more than vod views after let's say 3 days.
Especially for non-JP vtubers whose viewers aren't all in a single time zone, why wouldn't you care much more about the total vod views after everyone out there had the chance to see it no matter where they live compared to ccv, when a lot of your fans are asleep or at work around the globe?

>>43383200
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

>>43382655
There's no way... a big corpo outfit reveal and it's sub 13k....

How do (You) feel about the fact that not a single EN will ever reach 100k ccv on a stream again unless it's a graduation stream?

>>43383311
stop living in the past. the EN branch is dead and it's their own fault for being such lazy whores.

>>43383310
Who?

>>43383270
>Did Ina's forgetting-her-phone-at-home for 3 months impact her CCV
No, you need to stop letting shitposters in these threads color your idea of what real fans think.
real fans don't spend months crying that Ina implied watching girls play GG Strive makes them asocial
real fans don't cry and shit their pants that their oshi took a break (both Ina and Gura). Ina literally came back to the exact same numbers. Her ceiling was always weak, all of EN except Gura's is and Gura still gets shat on for having weak ceiling to fame ratio

so you telling me wawa will get more viewers than inner

>>43383047
>Chicken singing voice
Sub 30k incoming

if EN3 happened right after Holofes, what # would you expect for debuts ?

so fat cat for gura, probably marine, who else?

>>43382781
Why? To gain a few k of JP tourists that will watch JPs only when given the option? In exchange for losing an EN audience that your branch was made to target? Good thing the anons in this thread don't run a vtubing corpo.

>>43382610
I know you have been shitposting to bait people to shit on Irys, but I will bite
>Started closer to EN Primetime than Ina.
>Well advertised and as hyped as a 3D Showcase
That's about it. Starting closer to EN Primetime likely helped with attracting EN tourists and chumbuds. Just look at Irys's chat overlap: 32.5% of her chatters were chumbuds (or in Gura's stream), yet none of Ina's top chat overlap were in Gura's stream recently - with Gura doing a reveal stream just yesterday. Fairly reasonable to assume that there were fewer chumbuds in Ina's stream than Irys's, probably due to the difference in starting time

>>43382859
Working hours.

>>43382607
It can be due to her JP-only stream.

>>43383411
I can't because it literally doesn't matter even in the moment. It's a meme metric for twitchtards to derive worth out of muh heckin hours watched bro!

>>43382691
hololive lost the chink audience and chink ccp shills occupy youtube and twitter so go figure the rest. It's not a coincidence that the first cull happened a few weeks after the taiwan yab.

>>43383311
I find it hilarious the top numbers for NijiEN is from Iluflops, their worst gen ever.

>>43383311
Fucking insane how Risotto still has the highest NijiCN CCV record.

>>43383270
>regular viewers
>regular people
Regular people likely don't even know or care. Regular viewers would more, and she came back to basically her usual numbers.

>>43383310
Both garbage
Finana 12.9 outfit reveal
Luca 7.6k return stream
Safe to say the EN market as a whole had reclined.

>>43383411
the live race is just more fun, it really shows how powerful some girls are to make people change their daily schedule to watch the stream

>>43383203
>Pekora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6WxNzNgzxk
Kiara her permanently ruined her chances with Pekora by acting like a sperg. So as of now Marine and Subaru are the only first army she has access to.

>>43383435
Hoping for Akutan but she might spill to much spaghetti to be there. Maybe Zion?

Your predictions
Gotta admit, kind of a miss on this one
Also some of you guys need to stop betting your balls because that's at least 4 pairs you owe by now

>>43383323
Anon she's an illustrator in demand. She is one of the few holos that DOESN'T and didn't need Hololive to make a good living.

>>43383428
a 3 month break will definitely have some effect

nijisanji pick the wrong strategy, look at how irys sabotage elira 3Ds. that's how you play the game

>>43383311
Do you have top 10 Ina's CCV?

>>43383435
Well, we know who Gura would want (okayu, marine, shion, aqua) but the question is who was available

>>43383411
This is the CCV thread, nothing is as important to this thread as that.

If you want to talk about VOD views and shit then Filian mogs everyone out of the fucking water with her VR chat shorts that are worth $1 for every million views.

>>43383495
they debuted during niji IPO bot scam

well, i jist learned what a ramen stopper is.
>it's just a bowl cover to keep ramen warm
it's like pic related but for ramen bowls

Btw anons, why did the ccvid only affect hololive?

>>43383448
let's face it anon. the EN audience already left last year.

Holy numberfag incline

>>43383411
because being a 30k streamer is more of an achievement than having a video of 300k views which even a 50k subs youtube channel can get.....
they are streamers not youtubers, even twitch deletes the vods because it doesn't matter

>>43383260
Whats she doing?

>>43383297
>implying the western viewers aren't exactly the same losers

>>43382914
Why are you linking the blog of a moron?

>>43382610
I don't have to "expalin" shit you nimrod, I said JP primetime would be better.

Irys had a bigger buff (never before seen redesign vs old and busted for over a year 3d) and reached pretty much the same numbers as Gura's NA primetime 3d live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIaTI20gkXw
beware this

why are they all so low still?

>>43383511
Just because her normal streams get comparable numbers doesn't mean that the people who would normally only dip in occasionally are still interested. Her numbers today were very low.

>>43383575
its actually fucking terrible

>>43383569
why does this exist? just use the lid bro

This place had INCLINED

>>43383567
I thought Filian got rekt by shorts algo changes?

>>43383474
nah, JP tourist will came if it's 3D

>>43383434
100k
>b-but
100k

>>43383434
100k
Because it will be the first mixed gen in Hololive

>>43383434

depending in the designs and theme
>no hype
less than 40
>meh
40-50
>hype
50
>really hype
60+

>>43383588
Cope, Covers financial report disagrees.

>>43383550
>Irys fucked her own number up to drag Elira down
>That's how you play the game

>>43382274
did ina get 10k everytime?
did ina get 20k a lot?
did any myth get 5 digits everytime?
did Ina just made tweets for 2 months instead disapppearing for 3 months?
did ina got 194k first outfit?
did ina got 115k second outfit?

did Ina is the one who lead vbtubing in the west?
Did ina, Luxiem, indog or any nijinniger is Number 1 subscriber ??

>Gura +100k
>Guest: Marine
>Posible guests: Aqua, Shion, Okayu, Miko and Pekora
Also please stop posting a cut concert with 41 minutes plus anime movie = 48 minutes.

>>43383522
I predicted 60k-70k range. I was pretty spot on. Kiara would be 50k, Ame 55k Mori 65k and Gura about 80k. I can see gura getting like 79,999 meme just missing 80k.

>>43383435
maybe Chloe, they are forever glued by Umisea after all also Shion is another easy pick

>>43383354
overslept, that's gonna screw her. Also its hell overlap, she'll be lucky to get 15k.

>>43383588
Anon? Cover doesn't even agree with you. They're entertainers, not streamers.

>>43383632
I'm speechless ngl.

>>43383575
Take me back to the old days before this thread became seething newfag central...

>>43383070
I would rather buy merch than supachat tbhdesu

>>43383431
Who is wawa?

>>43383519
Oh fucking rip......

>every other place
>EN getting 3D and having fun with guest, happy
>/#/
>I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE LOST TO INDOG, I'M DEPRESSED

>>43383632
THANKS irystobuds, even kaela gave more tourists...

>>43383632
what's wrong with irystocrats?

>>43383617
Ina broke Neals toys.

>>43383632
Kaela is now EN

>>43383411
Much easier to refresh boost a vid's views without being noticed if the viewers bother to.

>>43383311
>NijiEN peaked with iluna/noctyx debuts
uh....

>>43382274
i fear the thursday debuff for the shork

>>43383675
>first mixed gen in Hololive
1 holoJP
1 holoEN
1 holoID
1 starsJP
1 starsEN
1 starsID

>>43383687
sabotaging 3D debut is more important

>>43383588
>they are streamers not youtubers, even twitch deletes the vods because it doesn't matter
What the fuck is this logic. Literally "twitch retarded so their retardation should be youtube standard".
They're fucking youtubers. Streaming youtubers or not, views are their bread and butter.

>>43382535
>>43383371
Neal doesn't want to count third worlder as views to cheapskate on ads

>>43383045
exactly

>>43383435
Suisei.
She's the one Gura had dinner with btw

>>43383595
Western losers are throwing their money at flesh streamers and onlyfans whores instead.

>>43383519
Ina should have gotten Marine to come to her 3D, would have gotten a numbers way up.

>>43383244
she said in the summer at the earliest

>>43383627
i guess it's so you can close it more securely?
sometimes you close it normally and some heat leaves because it still has a gap for steam to escape.

>>43383607
Nigga please. Ina’s and myth’s 3D are super hyped and shilled by everyone with almost a year of anticipation. IRyS’s 2.0 was only shilled by IRyS and was announced out of nowhere.

>>43383567
Short views aren't real views. Literally YT does not treat them the same way as VOD views so dunno what this dumb ass argument is about

>>43383411
It matters here because of horse race, stop coping already

>>43382699
proofs?

>>43383632
>EN
>Kaela

>>43383771
Welcome to the numbers thread newfag, you can post your cope here

>>43383520
after what Aqua said today I'm expecting we'll hear from her next update (in 3 months)
>oh, Gura's 3D? I could have appeared
>but I decided not to

ok, but 17 is still the best number

>>43383632
IRyStocrats...

>>43383575
This thread is literally where Holofags, Nijifags, and small corpo fags go to duke it out. Not surprising.

>>43383573
There's a lot of them stayed though. Like, most of them, actually.

>>43383434
They better debut them soon. They dont control YouTube might as well get them in before the site impose any more rules, nerfs, etc on the algo

>>43383519
kek

>>43383428
I'd argue it's the real fans that complain and whine the most. It's the casual fans that don't care about anything.

>>43383787
>now

>>43383822
>She's the one Gura had dinner with btw
Source next thread?
I'm just gonna pretend it happened.

>>43382772
Kys

>>43383771
And yet here you are everyday lurking this thread instead of your hugbox. Your mental illness isn't other peoples problem. Numbers discussion is numbers discussion whether it's positive or negative.

that FGO gacha idea to bring in guests was pretty cool, I wonder if you could've just used generic tokens instead of drawings and gotten some kind of gacha pulling peak

This doesn't make sense the livestream was really good, the times are fine but the CCV is low.
This means that no matter what EN does the original CCV will never come back because the west has been culled and the culture has been tainted

>>43383948
Nah, casuals also include the beggars.

>>43383632
So she got no JP tourists?

>>43383070
We just got their financial reports and people are still trying to talk about SCs like they matter.
Anon, Hololive is a merchandising and sponsorship corporation with profitable side hustles in streaming and SCs.

>>43383569
Pretty cool, huh?
The Japanese unashamedly make some wacky things

>>43383519
Aqua likes her because shes a loud whore and Aqua likes loud whores, however Aqua never streams

>>43383632
Are Irystocrats and chumbuds the most anti-unity EN fanbases? (their splits reflect this too as much as they want to claim that they are raided frequently)

>>43383435
Why didn't Marine show up for Ina's?
She dragged her to her 3d live, why not return the favor...

>>43383907
I missed it, what did she say?

>>43383632
>hoomans
>braats

yea the 2 most unity fanbase and fuck irystocrats i hope your oshi will have a karma

>>43383260
I mean, she's a pirate, plundering gold is her job. It'd be kinda sad if she was bad at it.

>>43383771
you dont take this place seriously anon, its literally the designated shitting thread which is where its fun comes from the type of shitposting that happens here literally cant happen as freely in other threads usually.

how do we stop /#/

>>43384015
>>43382607

>>43383151
Speaking of outfits, anons are talking about Ina having the second strongest EN numbers potential now, but isn't she traditionally second last for the outfits? I know Gura and Mori are typically first but can't remember if Ame usually follows them or Ina.

>>43383983
people got bored and left. You gotta strike while the iron is hot, and its cooled significantly. Japanese businesses just move too slow.

>>43383918
EN audience are Koreans and SEA now.

i blame Australia

>>43384089
It's too late.

Mito 20k playing Troon Extermination

>>43382875
She can easily mog Ina if her subs are not dead.
Maybe her contract is over.

>>43384050
Because she's going to be in Gura's? The fuck kind of question is this?

>>43383771
It's because everyone here is lonely. The more people that show up to "thing" the more friends you have.

>>43383771
Anon this is the thread where you vent your shitposting and then scream GO BACK TO YOUR HUGBOX if someone tells you to chill out or stop being such a miserable cunt of a human being. Don't take it seriously.

>>43383975
If she had a lot of guests it would have been hilarious to have a small skit where she tries to pull them all and keeps going crazy the more dupes happen and throwing their models in some sort of glue making machine.

>>43383632
You now realize that IRyStocrats are some of the biggest tribalfags and don't watch other Holos based on how much they complain. You now also realize not all the shitposting of her numbers against other Holos are flaseflags

>>43383632
>IrysTourists

EN don't watch streams anymore, they just watch clips and buy merch, they are useless for /#/

>>43383952
I forgot she was Kouncil. Youre right

>>43384015
Anon
>>43382607

>>43383983
>the culture has been tainted
You can thank VWhorejo for ruining western vtubing.

>buying 1 piece of merch and SCing the rest of what you were going to spend
>Dont SC and buy the merch x10 with what you were going to spend
So which one is better? SC'ing literally takes 30% out of cover's pocket and gives it to Susan.

>>43383569
>>43383627
Isn't it so you can keep the lid shut for the 3 minutes after you put in the boiling water?
I dunno, I haven't eaten instant ramen since college, but I remember using a saucer

Jwu, what was ina's peak?

>>43383983
The stream was fucking boring and formulaic.
People off doing things that are actually interesting to them in their free time rather than just watching minor permutations of the exact same thing over and over out of some perverse obligation to Anime Girl #24653
Not watching stale content doesn't make you a bad person

Mito is beating both Peko and Miko in the same game.
Is this her first wizard stream?

>>43383866
Marine is coming to Gura's, it's guaranteed

>>43384130
I am neither, and I am their audience. They should pander to me.

Lets just face it bros. HoloEN is dying. Vtubing in the west has proven to be a fad yet again. Numbers will only get worse. We will never relive our 2020-2021 glory days.

we can always talk about how friend is the least sexy member of 2 different gens

Ame and vesta had sex last night

>>43383822
Yakiniku?