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Shackles are pretty fun.

>>43240461
you don't need that sort of power even with halu. Doing it without halu is even more ridiculous. But yes, good item. There will no doubt be even more items with negative effects later on

>>43240063
>Down: Up
What did Anya mean by this?

Well, I tried to hit 40 with Subaru, not quite.

>>43240461
>No facemask
WASTE OF SHACKLES

>>43240744
I'm probably talking out of my ass here since I haven't tried Endless S2H with her but won't Headphones be better than Blacksmith?

>>43240665
Halu seemed wasteful since the drawback wouldn't get removed. I felt pretty invincible for pretty much the whole run.

>>43240755
Gomenasorry. I forgot about the haste or I would have taken it over Paw.

>>43241024
I took Blacksmith mainly so I could get more kills to level up faster and get more speed/HP. Unfortunately I accidentally fused my Solo Stamp into something else so that kinda screwed my damage for the ending portion.

>>43241105
Halu significantly increases the amount of enemies, thus giving loads more levels, anvils and stamps. It is not quite as important now that Marketing exists but can always use both.

Will Ayame play, I wonder

>>43241328
lol
lmao even

>>43241290
I normally do take Halu, I just wanted to go as ham as possible on the shackles.

>vampire survivor clone
>not only takes what made the original game addictive but adds to it to give the game a lot more replay value than the original game
Why are Holo-chads so based?

>>43242223
Kay Yu, being a big booba connoisseur knows what is good

How many gachikois is everyone up to? I'm only at 4: Korone, Okayu, Mel, and Choco.

>>43241105
The drawback of halu is the increased damage from enemies, not enemy count. The increased damage is removed by shackles.

>>43243240
Amelia and Mel. Currently working on Shion

>>43243621
15 done, 14 to go.

I can't believe it worked but uninstalling vJoy driver finally made my keyboard work

>>43243429
>The increased damage is removed by shackles
Not according to the wiki: https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Kusogaki_Shackles

>>43244210
just tested it and yeah, i was wrong. damage was completely unaffected.

>>43240461
So shackle nerf halu spawn?

>Adding IDs before Gen 3.
Really devs?

>>43243240
I will only gachikoi chammers

>>43244892
Blame Rushia, Dev probably wants to wait and see if adding her is going to be ok with Cover or not.

>>43243240
Gura, Ina, Kronii, Sana, Irys, Roboco, Suisei

>>43244892
Based devs

>>43243240
Gachis are: Sora, Matsuri, Kiara.
Not too fussed about going for the others right now since the early stages are mind numbingly boring to run.
Reine will be a day 1 gachi though

>>43245029
That and likely Kaela threatened Kay Yu
[Spoiler]via smothering Kay to death with her penguin tits[/Spoiler]

Speaking of IDs, what would their stage be? Area 15 is the only background location I associate with them.

Suichan wa

>>43244892
The devs know Gen 3 and 4 will overshadow ID really bad so it was a better idea to add ID first.

>>43245029
If they start adding retired members what the fuck are they gonna with Aloe who streamed like 3 times tops?
My own prediction is they will add Coco because she left Hololive on very good terms (don't believe the antis who say otherwise) but maybe skip Rushia and Aloe.

>>43244846
Shackles ignores Halu. >>43244210

>>43245738
I agree with you on Coco. Rushia and Aloe I see as 60/40 and 40/60 in/out. Rushia was extremely popular and despite the termination other Holos are still allowed to talk about her and use her image. Aloe's graduation was under significantly better circumstances than Rushia, but she barely did anything and the majority of Holo fans have never heard of her. Ultimately I think popularity wins out and Rushia is in, but Aloe may simply be passed over. Rushia out Aloe in is the only outcome that would surprise me.

>>43245472
kyou mo osoi

>>43245472
Slow today too...

>>43245555
HoloIDs are more invested in playing Holocure currently anyway too from what I've seen.

>>43240063

>>43246342
only 2 out of 9 IDs played the update

>>43245339
Either that or their classroom from the Bebas cover. Or maybe kay will just make something vaguely indonesian like their minecraft server

>>43241328
If she does than now is actually a good time since she's been fixed/buffed.

>>43242223
We have lots of animators and Kay Yu is an actual game designer who has experience.

>>43243240
Have 3. Fubuki, Mumei, and Ayame. Suisei, Shion, and Kronii are a work in progress.

>>43241328
I want to hear ojou's laugh when she got the trumpet stamp...

>>43246163
Rushia I could possibly see be added since it's not like Cover is trying to actively scrub her from existence plus the talents at least still acknowledge her. Aloe is definitely not being included, she just doesn't have much known about her to really make a playable character.

>>43246618
Yeah but one of them has more hours playing the game than the rest of Hololive combined.

>>43243240
Rbc, Suityan, Gamers, Akwa
Will there be a "dont waste my time" option or at least cut game time to 10 mins if I cleared stage 2 (hard) with said character? It's the easy part that's mind numbingly long

I remember FNF was supposed to be the next big FOTM game for holo, especially with the Holo mod. But the modder made it mostly about Aloe so the girls barely played it.
Honestly I wish they just scrap aloe. I wanna see nene to play that update without getting softblocked by management

I think that's about all I've got left in me, and I had to take off Halu to do it.

>>43240461
Still weaker than standard 2 card 1 gear halu build cuz less anvil

>>43243240
Korone as of now, but I'm planning on adding Ame. Will probably only gachikoi those two since 'tism

>>43247157
It is always a retarded mistake when a dev makes a game about a specific girl or girls only. That severely limits the audience and the interest Hololive girls have in it. That one Ame game was heading toward a more universal appeal but the dev got too much of an ego and tanked the project.
Sure, Holocure was about HoloEN to begin with but the devs made it absolutely clear that JP was coming next.

>>43247484
nice one, yea I think removing halu is the only thing left to try for me as well, just got 38 with choco. It's kind of sad when the special turns into an instant loss ability.

>>43243240
ayame, roboco, subaru and choco. But I got stuck running endless with choco for about 2 days now. Doing any levels pre 2hm just feels like a chore.

Hey guys, I got all of the Holocure achievements. Also got every girl up to Gachikoi rank.

I posted a video showcasing them on my youtube channel.
>https://youtu.be/ahJXCBCV7UU

>>43245029
I'm pretty sure devs were going to add her and Coco since Day 1 as mentioned by several posts on Reddit shortly after initial release
>but Cover
Devs don't break any rules listed by Cover by adding them to a fangame
>>43246163
>>43247040
I agree that the main issue of Aloe becoming playable is lack of reference material - she's barely any different than Chris in that regard. Unless devs make up an entire kit out of thin air for her (honestly, I always welcome more playable characters), I can see Aloe being added only as boss character.

>>43247063
That's Lamy though

>>43249605
Wow, good job anon!

>>43247040
imo the only way to add Aloe to the game would either be as a cameo, like as a boss or shop manager of some kind (sound test host?), or as an an item or weapon (something that summons her as a familiar).

>>43243240
So far I have Gura, Foobs, Suisei, Mel and Ayame, with Korone next in line because I'm only missing hard 2 for her

>>43250902
>Aloe S5 boss
>Second phase under 50% HP
>Turns into green woman
Please make this happen kay

>>43253201
>attack is triangle projectile

>>43243240
15
Ame-Korone
I've got the first two stages left for Sora and Suisex and 1 or 2 done for all the new characters, so it should be a little bit faster for the remaining 14

Had a blast playing with this build. You can one-hit kill almost all of the non-boss enemies throughout the stage. Took me about 1 - 2 minutes to beat Nodoka though

>>43254579
Wouldn't haste stamp be better than size up?

FINALLY

>>43254753
yes but I was aiming for the numbers in 1 hit. bigger size = more enemies are getting hits = more numbers

First time beating Halu5 hard2 without feather, outside of the circle of Pioneers before Nodoka it wasn't that scary

What was the update about for today?

>>43249605
>no footage of going outside
you didn't beat the game

>>43255497
seems like you can roll for weapon enchants in anvil now

>>43257402
?
You always could since this version came out.

>>43255497
Most recent updates were various bugfixes and tweaks including fixing plushie to make it work properly with Kiara's revives and making Matsuri actually playable without it feeling like a big waste of time.
In Matsuri's case, Ebifrion had its damage increased and God beams had a massive buff to its size. I think Shion had a small buff too but I don't remember what it was.

>>43258288
I think her portals do more damage now, but they still feel whatever

>>43258288
I wish they would look at whatever is going on with damage reduction and plushie. Definitely feels like you take way more damage than you should

>>43259020
Looks like they did?

Is the Life Steal stamp enough to negate the debuff from Asacoco Injection? It says it MAY proc once per second, but for up to 15%.

>>43259086
Nah, different issue. That was just Plush doing continuous damage, which made for some funny feedback loops. The issue I see from testing is that if I take Korone with full defense items including Plushie, It feels like I still take a ton of damage. If I do the same run without Plushie, enemies can barely crack my Body Pillow shield. Considering she has a constant ~70% damage reduction, even more when her passive procs, the damage taken with Plushie feels like the dot portion is ignore damage reduction or something. I really wish I could see the code, or at least have a damage tracker or something so I could confirm it's actually happening and I'm not just crazy

I like Aki

>>43258576
The problem with shion isn't the output, it's that the weapon + skills + special doesn't mesh together as a good toolkit.

>>43260978
Isn't her toolkit just damage/dodge focused? Just put headphones on her and you have someting relatively solid, she has 3 damage dealing summons, plus her own decent awakened weapon, almost always at +60% damage.

>>43261415
Her kit is fine except the portal nonsense. It's real hard to implement good portal usage in a game like this, and as it is they feel more like a hindrance than a help. If anything, they should switch her ult with the portal mechanic if they want to keep it. Make Kusagakick something that triggers every x seconds to deal a burst of damage around her, and make her ult warp you in the direction you are facing, leaving behind a large pulsing blackhole for a short duration. That way you keep the portal mechanic, but it never gets in the way and can be triggered when you actually want it.

Most fun characters to play?

>>43261854
My Oshi.

Is Uber Sheep the worse item in the game now?

>>43261974
No, piggy bank is.

>>43261701
>keeps stepping in own trap
Sounds like a you problem.

>>43261974
Uber sheep is probably the best over healing item for endless runs, since nurse horns is flat healing and bandage heals very slow. But it's definitely a niche item

>>43262103
I don't actually step into it, and I love Shion's basic attack so I play her plenty. But the fact is that you have to stay aware of their locations to not step on them, which is just one extra thing to keep track of. It's not enough to make her a bad character or anything, but it is an annoyance.

>>43261701
What if instead of dealing damage you get a buff everytime you enter the portal? That way you're actually rewarded for using the portal.

>>43262203
>>43262103
What's actually annoying is the fucking thing sometimes spawns under you.
Portals should collect XP and items too, since they're connected

Would it be cool if after all the characters are added, Kay Yu adds official modding support?
Like, imagine if you could just pack a character into a .cure file that you add to one folder

>>43262285
>What's actually annoying is the fucking thing sometimes spawns under you
Happens to me at least once a stage, and usually more than once.

>>43262217
I don't like that idea. Enforcing a movement mechanic like that means either putting yourself at risk with a bad jump, or nerfing yourself by not getting the buff. If it's just a defensive buff there's no real incentive to use it, because Shion clears fast enough to not need it, and if it's an offensive buff, you obviously risk dying on a bad jump
>>43262285
>fucking thing sometimes spawns under you.
It always spawns under you, that how it works. Every 7 seconds you drop a new one exactly where you are standing

>>43261974
Absolute Wall exist
As for items - either Sake (GWS Pill is outright superior unless you play Haachama) or Limiter (never felt like I really need it, and even if you do you can just aim for Noel's Milk instead)

You don't teleport if you're moving, just play a lot with characters like Fubuki, Aki or Kiara and you'll be a master at playing with Shion in no time

>>43262871
Sake's good on it's own and it stacks with GWS pill, pretty necessary for 100% crit.

>>43263230
Some characters don't need two crit rate items to reach 100% (and it's also not always viable to spend two slots on crit rate items), so between two of them GWS Pill easily wins because all you have to do is to use your Special

>why is no one talking about or using Okayu
> decides to play her
> ah...
Damn, if unremarkable had a face its probably her. She's neither remarkably good nor egregiously bad.w

>>43263414
And all you have to do for the other one is not get hit, and if you do get hit you don't even lose the full buff. Keeping fed is trivial as well, hamburgers drop decently often and some characters are eating constantly. I agree GWS is a little better but both are solid options and they pair great if you're going for crits at all.

>>43263564
I haven't played her a lot but didn't she literally devour all her enemies when she came out? I remember her being pretty good.

>>43261854
that depends on what you think is fun
my favorite run so far was a no weapon irys with injection asacoco and all items that increase damage taken

Irys is fundamentally unfun because she's obscenely good at both offense and defense.

>>43263564
Isn't her ult literal invulnerability frames and heal? It can't be that bad

>>43264042
Haven't played her yet since 0.5 but iirc she doesn't scale all that well, fine to beat the levels and get to endless, but you don't get much further.

>>43261854
Solo weapon Suisei because I like big crits number and personally I think melee weapons are more fun to play than ranged weapons.

Does anybody else thinks Roboco's awakened pistol is weaker?

>>43261854
I've been having fun using Matsuri lately. Finally had some time to make a shitty webm highlighting god spam.

>>43263564
she's just not that good against bosses
but okayu literally eats hordes
she gives a free +30% crit with her passives (definitely never goes away with ubersheep) plus crits turning enemies into food
after finishing her gachikoi and moving on to korone, korone felt incredibly weak in comparison
as long as there are enough normal enemies around to feed off of, okayu is great

Just tried Matsuri on Stage 2 Hard & had probably the easiest run of it I have with any character so far.

Does Full Meal just double the Bandage's 10% regeneration to 20%, or does it double the CAP too from 100% to 200%? Cuz eventually I started paying attention to the numbers and fuckin' hell the healing never seemed to end.

any tldr on which defensives to prioritize for characters?
Im sorta just going with Melee = Bandage / Breastplate, and Ranged = Horns / Membership right now.

>>43263878
>obscenely good at both offense and defense
half angel half devil...

>>43243240
Just Mio for now.

>>43254826
Mumei isn’t really the best choice for coach potato

>>43263564
What? Okayu was the strongest Gamers member on release, I think my very first Stage 1 Hard clear was with her because she made it free.
>Onigiri is whatever, I agree
>Passive #1 spawns shitton of free food so you don't need to waste space on healing / defensive items
>Passive #2 gives shitton of free stats on pretty much permanent upkeep
>Passive #3 can charm enemies for OHKO and heals
>Special is basically Passive #3 but guaranteed for limited amount of time

>>43264804
there's no single solution
I mostly tailor it to the character's passives
some character's passives (like fubuki) require you to take hits, for that I prioritize healing
but for someone like kronii or azki, your passives require you to avoid taking hits, so then I'd get body pillow and maybe headphones if I'm playing like shit but nothing else

>>43263564
Okayu's my main of that entire update. She's who I instantly went to when I was having trouble on Stage 2 Hard at first.
I'll say this much, to try and avoid repeating other anons; she's a prime example of a gimmick kit that you should cater to if you want the fullest experience. Piman aside I ain't seeing any of the must-have (IMO) Okayu items in your screenshot, so am guessing you gravitate towards a specific set for everyone. If so, try experimenting a little.
>>43263715
Still does. I once got her to 100% crit and felt like the MC of a vore doujin.

>>43264804
For Ina you want Choco horns, I think, since it pairs very well with her instakill circle. But I haven't actually compared items much.

I'm here too... please play as me...

>>43265174
Yeah for first time builds I mainly pick glasses for the extra stats and just wing the rest.
What item build would you suggest for okayu then? I figured might as well get her to gachikoi...
I guess: Halu, Ubersheep, Piman, GWS, and a couple defensives like Pillow / Breastplate? Or should I double down on the special spam with Idol Outfit + Piman?

>>43264598
I ran her through hard 2 pre-buff with keyboard only, it was awful.

>>43264804
As the anon just above you I echo >>43265057 and advise a case-by-case basis that considers the character's kit. 2/3 of Matsuri's skills require her to get hit, so I went with Breastplate/Membership/Pillow to let me stay in mobs longer and Bandages/Plushie/Meal to give myself a shitton of leeway getting out. Possibly the tankiest build possible, AFAIK. Basically unkillable.
I'd definitely advise considering Awakened effects and Specials too though. I was toying with Aki a lot before that Matsuri run and prioritized Breastplate & DEF buffs there too over any healing items, cuz once you get her Piman you can fully heal every 20 seconds or so.

>>43265495
okayu heals so much health so fast that I've personally never felt the need for more than 1 or 2 defense items, and with her obscene crits, I never bother with piman or idol oufit and focus on damage instead
the big limiter on your screenshot, though is no weapons: with her extremely high crit okayu deals more damage with a full build than other characters do, getting that on high speed weapons like fitness ring and fujoshi can add a ton of damage
just try things out and see how they work for you

>>43265534
What'd the buff change? I did keyboard only too. Too used to it by now to get into the feel of mouse-aim.

>>43264962
who is the best choice, then? Friend is great for picking exp

>>43265827
i got it first try with fauna, it was really easy
just drop down that tree whenever your health gets low

>>43265495
On non-endless glasses aren’t really worth it other than maybe playing Roboco. They obligate you to get them early for maximum impact and take 5 levels during the extra important early establishing time of a stage.
The blacksmith gear is currently way better, though a lower weight in the item pool so rarer. 1 level gets you double anvils which will get you way more “levels” than what you’d get from glasses. It also only has 3 levels total and those levels actually can add a lot of power to weapons late game because they make a significant pose increase when enhancing as well due to the modifier buff and the amount of extra anvils you’ll be getting.

>>43265487
Aki's a neat gimmick kit too IMO. I like how she makes a relatively niche item a must-have. I think I've always managed to clear stuff with her 1st try because of the raw DPS she dishes out when properly built.

>>43265827
For me I went with Amelia. She has bubba for xp pickup (and some early damage like friend), her skills all buff all her attacks so weapons end up strong for killing enemies around you and her special is enough to easily nuke any boss.
I guess Mumei’s overpowering power and stronger main weapon can work pretty well too though, I’m just not certain it is as easy.

>>43265495
Ubersheep's a universal must-have, from there I gravitate towards two possible playstyles depending on what shows up first; special-spam (Piman/Outfit) & /d/emon (Sake/GWS/Pillow). It was always Endless Halu I'd play her on so there wasn't space for both.

>>43265809
-MATSURI-
>Increased damage of Ebifrion
>Increased SPD bonus from Cheerleader
>Increased the width of God Beam

>>43266221
...Ah. From the Fb 15th hotfix? https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog
cuz I ain't updated since 2 before that lel

>>43265487
AZKI's probably my favorite character honestly. Natural buffs make her feel great, fast weapon attack, and Encore is a fantastic skill, though I wish it scaled at all with haste. She was the first character I Solo-weaponed S2H H5 with

>>43265487
I'm surprised Sora got buffed in 0.4 version but not AZKi - I think her base weapon needs improvement.

>>43265939
Aki...

>>43243240
I'm beating S2H with everyone first to get a comprehensive feel for them. The rest can be comfy filler 'til ID.

>>43266464
My bad yeah I meant Asskey.

>>43264892
Based.

>>43265827
Sana.
I didn't even need to press X.

>>43266314
I love how her playstyle is literally "DON'T TOUCH ME I'm an idol".

>>43264804
I just go for kusogaki + asacoco + face mask + gorilla + any defensive item

>>43265487
just for you anon

Calliope was a it annoying to do one weapon with on stage 2 hard because her weapon is way weaker and slower than you'd think, but you're able to set up a pretty tanky build that way due to the rampant stat improvements to make nodoka mostly harmless, same as for most one weapon builds.
After doing a normal run and spacing on nodoka so I promptly died, I didn't feel like running Calliope through Stage 2 hard a third time so I just went with something simple. Could really feel the lack of the facemask and bad luck on level ups for haste but oh well.

Shubangelion squished by Suisei's tetris blocks is peak comedy

Wallace Breen.

>>43270061
I wonder which collab combinations that are usually impossible (basically any two collabs that share a weapon) would end up being good in this case.

>>43270061
So that’s how Mumei got her time…

>>43270286
Micomet, elite cooking and Broken dreams would go well together.

>>43264804
Choco horns and the plushie is my preferred standard safety net for stage2hard runs. Can always heal back the damage you take.

It's only in endless that choco horns start to fall off because enemies are really tanky.

How did Kaela fuck up her build this bad

>>43270061
what the FUCK is that?

I have just discovered my new favourite build.

>Mel
>Uber Sheep
>Breastplate
>Plushie
>Piman
>Horns
>Halu

I christen it Steak.
Cuz it's pink in the middle.

>get to Nodoka as Fauna
>get strafed at the perfect angle when she does her dash
>die instantly
Haha, 20 minutes down the drain. I keep forgetting how fast she can kill you if you dont pay attention

Huh been seeing a lot of people using Stream of Tears now to get sub4 in Time Mode, did they change anything?

>>43273643
People were using that one to get broken dreams since the beginning. It is good weapon for rapidly killing weak groups at a distance and broken dreams does the same but better.
Time mode did get the spawn rate buffed now each minute so it is easier to get a lower time.

>>43243240
Fauna, IryS, and Sana. Gonna work on the other Council members before working on the other gens.

>>43261854
Choco

>>43261854
Luna (2024)

>>43273643(me)
>>43273803
Wait a fucking second I tried using it and I got my newest PB, seems like instead of 'spawn rate' they just made it so the mobs spawn earlier but from spots wayyy further than the screen so it seemed like a wave of mobs that's gradually increasing. Stream of Tears have insane range so those spawned way outside the screen also gets killed immediately, leading to new ones getting spawned.

>>43261854
Watame

Getting Gachikoi on Kiara is suffering. No interesting interaction with other weapons

>>43264804
Switch the two healing items. Bandage only heals the most recent hit, so a melee character that's taking a lot of hits doesn't actually benefit much.

>>43265495
Ubersheep is unnecessary due to her passives producing so much food; Full Meal or one of the armor items would be more useful. Glasses are useless on stage mode, but Blacksmith and Halu are both alright if you want a growth item.

It's possible to get couch potato on stage 2 with Matsuri and it's actually stupidly easy to do so.

Tips on how to get the following achievements?
>100% Crit
>10000 damage
>5 levels in 1 second
>beat a stage without moving
>beat a stage with main weapon

Kaela if you read this you're cute.

>43276169
>100% Crit
Play as Bae, take GWS pill and Sake, pickup Crit stat ups when available
>10000 damage
Play as Aki, charge Belly Dance to about 500
>5 levels in 1 second
Play as Sana, don't move at all for ~5 or so, then use Special
>beat a stage without moving
Several Holo's can do this, Fauna is probably the easiest, anyone with a pet helps collect pickups, whatever really
>beat a stage with main weapon
Buy the upgrade in the shop to limit weapon slots to 1. IRyS and Mumei are probably easiest, but any Holo can do it fairly easily

>>43276169
For damage play Ina in endless and get to yagoo, she will instakill them doing upwards of 50K damage.

>>43276169

>100% Crit
Play endless RBC
>beat a stage with main weapon
buy the shop upgrades that remove weapons slots
>beat a stage without moving
Use mouse aim and pick someone with a helper pet
>5 levels in 1 second
Turn off your pick up range and then make a stack of xp collect it
>10000 damage
Aki Belly dance

Are Korone's punches considered projectiles for the Projectile Up stamp?

>>43276169
All of them are easiest on stage 1
>100% Crit
Buy the crit upgrade in the shop, Play a character that naturally gets a crit bonus like Suisei or Baelz, then take sake and the pill. Easily puts you at about 100. Can also do this on a 1 weapon run where you’ll get plenty of stat increase levels.
>10000 damage
Simplest way is to Play Aki Rosenthal, run around the entire stage, then stop to nuke the boss in one hit.
>5 levels in 1 second
Play a character like Sana that can kill enemies as they approach while you stand in place, once your build is established let the xp build up for a few minutes and then grab one of those super xp suction pickups. Keep your pickup radius small for this to limit the amount of xp you pick up while waiting. Sana stands out for this because her special can be used to vacuum up xp too.
>beat a stage without moving
Lots of characters can do that. Ones with a familiar like Amelia or Mumei work well since they get can do for you, Sana does too with her special and her knock back weapons. Can also use someone like Fauna whose weapon hits wide, homes and has healing to tank attacks.
>beat a stage with main weapon
This one is easy, one weapon builds are quite strong. Ours is the easiest option, just remember to buy the “upgrade” in the shop that closes off your other weapon slots do you aren’t forced to pick them.

>>43276646
Surprisingly, yes. They have the three dot icon that indicates they are a multi-projectile weapon.

>>43276169
>100% Crit
Suityan with max stack Suicopath, GWS Pill and Sake after eating a food will get 100% Crit. Just play her normally until you get the items.
>10000 damage
Run around with Aki in Stage 1 and unleash Belly Dance once smol Ame appears.
>5 levels in 1 second
Play Sana in Stage 1 and don't move. Once the first miniboss appears wait until the distance is minimal then use your special. All the exp gained should be enough to level you up 5 times.
>beat a stage without moving
Almost all can do it but most brainless one is Fauna.
>beat a stage with main weapon
It's a fun playing style so don't rush to clear it. Buy the Weapon Limit upgrade in shop and max it so no other weapons can drop.

Anyone got tips for solo weapon Suichan for stage 2 hard its easy as hell till Nodoka, then shit just falls apart

Unlucky with anvils, but honestly I don't think I'm going to be able to push past ~38 minutes on damage focused builds

>>43277570
Don't get hit lol

Yeah I'm convinced RBC is the best Time Mode character after the newest patch. You rush Stream of Tears while taking a Limiter in between and you're set.

>>43274302
Have confidence. If not many system are adde, maybe we could get them this fall unless Kay-yu decided to mess with the order and instead add Tempus.

>>43277570
I figure it would be easy to dosimilar to the calliope set up here
>>43269642
Perhaps easier since Susie’s does more damage with her auto-triple crits. With life steal sticker, full meal, bandaid, and lots of hp investment you should be able to run in to bonk Nodoka and somewhat tank the occasional ball.

>>43277872
ID is projected for June/July already… but 0.5 was meant to release in October 2022. If we see another 4 month delay then ID would be around November.

Does Bandage works with Injection Asacoco?

>>43278091
No because you aren't taking a hit.

God, no wonder I thought Korone sucked. It was the fucking Plushie.
Taking that off she actually feels as tanky as people were saying. I never thought it was massively bugged.

>>43278269
Plushie apparently doesn’t work properly with damage reduction.
Especially notable since most characters will have at least some damage reduction from the upgrade shop.

>>43278387
Did the update fix it?

>>43272564
>Tried this out in stage 2 hard
>DOT slowly ramped until I died cause the damage stacked up so high that a single tick oneshots.
that shit was giving me a heart attack kek it was fun

So like, solo weapon is meant to be the easy mode right?
I managed to win without moving once with it for example

>>43277570
I found it pretty easy focusing on getting as much haste and area as possible so I took Energy Drink, Face Mask, Knight Milk, Halu, Nurse Horns and Hope Soda. The focus then was hoping and praying for the haste stamp (which came a bit past half through the run)

With this, I had enough damage to oneshot nearly everything so the run was pretty safe.

>>43278900
I mean, depends on who you are playing as obviously. People with strong main weapons like Mumei/IRyS will have an easy time because less weapons means more stat powerups. People who's skills benefit weapons like Ame/Bae will have a more difficult time on a solo-weapon run

>>43261415
I tried figuring out shion today and landed on this, the only 2 things her kit cares about are attack power and getting hit once in a while, so I figure full attack stats without being squishy is the best way to go. can probably replace energy drink with soda for more power or body pillow so taking a hit doesnt feel scary at later levels. gonna try hard 2 and see how this goes but this ended up being more fun than a choco run. stamps were akukin, shiranui, attack up

>>43245472
>11 minutes
I ran Mumei after nerf and she's even more broken, I did it in 7 minutes.

>>43277992
>but 0.5 was meant to release in October 2022
No(?) 0.4 (Gamers + 0Gen) was promised and released to September 2022. Kay Yu never give a concrete date for 0.5 and even stated that becuause Christamas/Holidays it would be a longer wait than between 0.3 and 0.4.
Now with less system to need to be implemented and the promise of Kay-Yu to focus in his personal projects (like Holocure), imo there is a big chance of having 3 updates this year.

>try hard 2 with Matsuri
>die to Nodoka's crisscrossing bullets
>try hard 2 with Sora
>die just before Nodoka because I never found any defensive items and got stick in the fucking pixel wall while all those enemies fly towards you
>try hard 2 with Korone
>die in the Miko/A-chan midboss somehow
Yeah fuck it that's enough Holocure for me today
And no I will not disable marketing 5

>>43261854
I really enjoy Asskey.
Dunno why, she's just fun.

>>43280125
https://twitter.com/kaynimatic/status/1608969480348262400

>>43280991
>>43277992
>>43280125
His original plan when he started the game was for 0.5 release in Oct 22, so there's been 5mo slip overall so far.

Hey guys, I uploaded another youtube video. This time, it's a tutorial on how to extract Holocure's sprites and music.

>https://youtu.be/hs10ZaHnfHE

>>43281595
>>43281682
I was looking at them the other day. Most holos have a pretty simple nondescript mouth but a few like Subaru, Bae and Korone are more expressive.

>>43278387
Is it actually a problem with damage reduction or just that pink health can't be healed? Either way I can't believe I didn't notice either that plushie was being more of a detriment and I've been building Matsuri wrong this whole time. She's fcking bonkers without it.

>>43251521
Lamy's ID!?

>>43282389
I assume you're using Mel stamp?

Opinions on MiKorone? It feels very underwhelming to me

i did it....
i also got mel 23 time in the gacha.....

>>43283264
Yeah. It helps a lot but it's not required. Actually I went through this >>43264431 without any healing stamp/items at all and I'm now wondering how much taking the plushie on that run actually ended up hurting me in the long run.

what shop upgrades do you guys think are the most important to get?

Looks like bomb stamp on mio's cards are really, really good

>>43284111
The solo weapon one is main priority
Unlocks next
Then more enemies
Then coins/whatever

>>43284111
Fastest leveling and money.

>>43284450
>The solo weapon one is main priority
If you are following this advice don't forget to buy the sticker system. Otherwise a world of pain is waiting for you.

>>43282389
Pink damage hasn't been dealt yet, its just a indicator for the plushie.

>>43284111
Special attack.
The fact you even need to unlock it is baffling and it is basically assumed that you will have it as many characters are built on that assumption and items too.
Mio without special unlocked? Haato without special unlocked? Ridiculous.

Not going to lie to you
These enchantments are kinda sexy

>>43285097
Size is one of the two most common ones too, so you can see it often.
+knockback is one of the rarest but I love it on micomet and elite cooking as enemies get continuously pushed back by the damaging areas.

>>43277845
Nice. I tried using her with no luck. I was pretty sure she would be good since her leveling gimmick is better when levels are fast

>>43284956
It costs less than rolling a character and Myth does fine without it
Limit rate of exposure to new mechanics is pretty underrated honestly, I feel that some upgrades should even be locked behind passing a stage

>>43243429
>>43244210
''enemies are stronger'' doesn't mean that their HP is higher? Damn I'm gonna get Halu every run if it doesn't increase their hp

>>43284450
>>43284704
>>43284798
thx! really helps

>>43284956
yeah it is a bit retarded, played without them for the first hour or so and then realized that there were special attacks when i went to the shop

first time doing the timed stage. What do I drop and what do I get to get a better time?

idol song was a box drop as I had already gotten my main weapon and tears to 7 without any other weapon

>>43282389
From what I can tell, it seems like the pink damage doesn't take damage reduction into consideration. Maybe it's calculated before? Regardless, it looks like the 90% over-time damage is full, and only the 10% taken is affected by your damage reduction

>>43285477
If you are new to the game note that the solo weapon unlock is “free” because it isn’t really meant as an upgrade and is more of a toggleable feature, same as the option to turn on hardcore mode.
The remaining order is pretty good.

>>43285517
You are much better off staying still at the top than moving around

Hi, I just freed up myself to play this game so I missed the launch. What changed? What was the "surprise" that Kay Yu mentioned?

>>43285904
>because it isn’t really meant as an upgrade and is more of a toggleable feature
Not upgrade my ass, the free stat bonuses rabidly outscale having more weapons

>>43286322
You might as well tell him that he should only play Subaru because she can most easily go far in endless mode.
One weapon runs can be strong but so can using weapons, which is going to likely be more fun and interesting for a new player.

There should be a option that pay for not play normal stages 1&2. What a colossal pain of boredom.

>>43286268
>What changed?
9 new characters, two new stages, new systems like fandom, weapon enchantments and stamps, more upgrades like eliminations, time mode, new weapons and items. Lots of stuff, read the change log.
>surprise
that HoloID will be the next group added in the next big update

>>43286648
Turn off your upgrades if you want it to be a bit more interesting.

>>43286648
You don't need to gachi everyone m8

Stages with static enemies when? Especially for time attack

>>43281877
Matsuri gets smug when she moves btw

>>43287071
Swiggity swooty, she’s coming for that booty.

>>43261701
I think the easiest way to make the teleport skill more usable is to just add another portal or two to the total rotation. Maybe with colour coding and or counting numeral to show what order you're jumping in too.
That way you are more likely to have space to move around, rather than the usual scenario of two portals right next to each other at present. Though in that case there is still some niche utility as well, in that you can use the iframes of going through the portals to avoid some damage if you are pressed by swarms.
The other solution would be to make black magic her toggleable special instead, kind of like Akai Haato dess.

>>43287373
SEX

So like, why don't exploding bosses actually explode when you fuck off from their range?
Instead they lag the game to hell

rare members card + marine stamp = +300% atk
aw yeah
shame it was when i was trying out subaru but then again it seems almost impossible for her to die

>>43288482
ded
64.8k

>>43283435
based
haachama chama

>>43261854
Playing Aki just makes my ape brain happy with scaling damage procs that are completely independent of weapon damage.

Do you think playing with Membership is cheating? It basically cancel out Halu effect and even with that when you "finished" stage/endless the amount of money lost is negligible.

Did any of the holo girls do a proper money run with IRyS main weapon only on stream?

>>43289787
no? theres other better tanking items
theres other better attacking items
its a good item sure the only one that youll get called gay for is revival feather

>>43286834
>that HoloID will be the next group added in the next big update
That is the surprise? Oh well. Yeah gonna read the changelog.

>>43282389
Well shit guess I'm going to overhaul my ina build now, I was doing pretty good tanking with it
You know, it makes perfect fucking sense that it's broken: the first time I tried building Ina like this I only took choco horns, no other defensive items or healing, and I was able to tank endless 1 without moving all the way to minute 29. Next try I took plushie, and dind't survive though 28. It figures it was fucking something up.

>>43245029
Cover can't actually stop them from adding her.
But the question is will they still let the Holos stream the game if she's in it. Any sort of meddling will be pretty obvious

Alright sell me on your oshi, why should i play her, what is her playstyle.
Mine is Mio btw.

>>43293656
mine is also mio so you already know

>>43293656
Ina because she turns enemies into friends and can be made to work with just a little healing and focusing on attack area/crowd control, debuffs/heals for the main weapon and haste (for more takodachi procs).

>>43290214
Botan knew about it 100% but didn't go for it
I think Sora farmed coins with IRyS setup but I'm not sure if it was "base weapon"-only

>>43293656
She's not in the game yet

SAKANA-SAMA WHEN!?

>>43293656
The Goobs
She probably has the perfect kit, it literally gives her everything, more damage, healing, crowd control and protection
Really the only thing against her is her mediocre main weapon
But she gets the buffed Flattening Board which is one of the best collabs in the game

bump

>>43282389
>pink health can't be healed
I suspected as much. I guess Plushie is out of my builds unless it gets changed.

>>43283341
It's fun, but I agree it seems pretty weak, especially considering how strong other X-Potato and Elite Bucket collabs are.

Kronii didn't give any difficulty with Stage 2 Hard.
Since she has maximum sized tits I went for Ring of Fitness, but it isn't that great of a collab. I don't think it even knocked enemies back

Any tips for clearing the office (hard) with Roboco aside from "git gud", I know already? I've tried various builds but I just can't survive the Nodoka fight

>>43282389
>>43305552
You can heal pink health, I've done it myself. If there is an issue it is probably with the damage reduction.

>>43284111
Starting from zero I would prioritize
>Stickers
>Marketing
>Special
>Haste
>Coins

>>43285308
> Each upgrade also buffs the HP, ATK, and SPD of each enemy by 10%/15%/20%/25%/30% (incorrect tooltip), depending on the upgrade level.
The wiki is free, you don't even need to make an account.

>>43305552
>I suspected as much. I guess Plushie is out of my builds unless it gets changed.
The pink hp means the size of the damage over time you need to heal through. You don't heal it through burst of healing like food, but using small but sustained ones like the healing of the horns.
>>43305582
>Ring of Fitness, but it isn't that great of a collab. I don't think it even knocked enemies back
You need to "make" it spin like with Matsuri's Ebifrion to get the knock back effect.
>>43305652
Glasses, Blacksmith gear, Credit Card, Halu, Maybe something defensive like the dakimakura. Fill your slots and dump all level ups into stats like attack > haste >>> crit and watch Nodoka melt with special + Robo-Discharge.

>>43305652
Dragonfire melts through Nodoka pretty fast without you needing to get close.

>>43272564
>>43278460
Replace piman with full meal.
Mel's healing comes from her main weapon and you can't heal if you are just deleting enemies.

>>43305652
the laser doesnt actually track you like it looks like it does cause shes also moving, run towards her like youre running past her and you will get behind her

>>43276169
More than one way to skin a cat
>100% Crit
I got it with Suisei's skills, GWS, and maybe some other item that wasn't Sake
>10K Dmg
Aki
>main weapon
IRyS and the upgrade in the shop to limit you to one weapon slot, you could probably do this with most characters
>5 levels in 1 second
>stage without moving
Sana's special pulls exp drops to her

>>43306784
Isn't it the great wall that you make spin?

>>43309961
callis death chance on hit makes her a great one for weapon solo
with the addition of the atk speed stamp and the explosion on hit stamp too you can accidentally clear entire waves of 20min+ enemies without even thinking

>>43310120
>explosion on hit stamp
You mean Usaken? It is good for AoE, but not that good. The effect of clear waves of enemies is the chain reaction of Death, one of the skills of Cali.

>>43310120
One problem I have with her is that she's slow as fuck, but maybe I don't know how to build her. Eventually I get swarmed and die because she can two shot a lot of stuff, but I don't reach one shot ability without the special up. I think I've been crutching on characters with in-built survivability for too long.

>>43276504
>>43276623
>>43276686
>>43276805
>>43309961
I appreciate the tips, thank you.

>>43311785
Energy Drink is a must for Mori. After all you need her to unlock that item.

>>43311857
I typically got that when I did try her out. I think it's because I was getting Devil Horns as my healing, it's not enough to sustain her.

>>43310120
I find enemies of S2H are a bit too tanky with Halu for Death to continue to hold its weight, even with the defense reduction and the natural attack bonuses you build up up during a solo weapon run. But then I went tank, if I had gone for Gorilla paw and/or facemask it probably would've cleared out much more quickly.

>>43293656
Not my oshi, but I really like it when Mori hits a single chicken and the entire swarm dies

>make it to the end of hard stage 2
>die to the part where a billion enemies form a circle and fly at you because you got stuck on something you couldn't see since the whole screen is covered in shit

>>43293656
ILOVE AME
Now that she can aim at any direction, she is in a better place than she used to be. Not to mention Bubba can collect exp and stun enemies, Ame can shoot multiple times, do critical at the same time and combine all that with her really useful super. God I love her.

Irys was literally unkillable even on halu lvl 5 when I got the super nurse horn by pure luck.

>>43293656
haaachama is like having 2 goods characters in one, haato has better sana orbs 30% damage resist and healing per second, haachama has 50%(!!!) attack, fully penetrating shots and poison
they have weaknesses, but those weakness are covered by each other, tank character kited too much and the swarm is too big, kill it with haachama, haachama about to get hit and has no aoe? switch back to haato

>>43313566
>haachama has 50%(!!!) attack
50% is actually rather middling but it is nice to have it on demand while also being able to switch to other things.
You forgot that at max level their normal attack, already pretty good, inflicts a massive 30% stat penalty to attack with Haachama or defense with Haato. Both are really strong debuffs, especially the defense as it means all you other attacks are doing 30% more damage. It's like having a bonus Face Mask or Gorilla paw for free.

>>43243240
gura fauna miko and shuba rn, suisei next

>>43311496
usaken is part of the weapon, so it triggers death

I'm trying to do Couch Potato and I keep dying on the ring of takos at 3:15 with both Fauna and Sana. I even respecced to pic related to increase pickup range but it didn't help

>>43314375
Pick Ame/Mumei and let Bubba/Friend collect XP for you.

>>43291377
>That is the surprise?
no, it is a disappointment

>>43314801
theres going to be a risu skill for swallowing sperm , her "big thick tasty nuts" and you cant stop him
maybe it will be similar to okayus mogu swallow her little risulings little risulings

>>43261854
Choco is a ton of fun as a facetank healer because she's virtually unkillable with plushie and her nurse skill damage eventually hits the entire screen for big numbers like popcorn once you get the right stamps. Stamps I used here were +2 projectiles, haste and vampire. Yagoo damage scaling seems to really speed up around the 38 minute mark to the point they'll eventually 1-2 shot you. Stacked haste, HP and crit in that order.

>>43314909
Her skills will be load gulper, nut junkie and nonstop climax. she will also have a special defeat animation of being gangraped instead of exploding like the other girls

>>43315352
I unironically hard now wtf

>>43315409

>>43243240
I already gachi'd everyone. But the ironic thing is I'm actually sick of playing this game obsessively.
There are 5 stages and I played them 29 times each. If each stage is about 20 minutes long, that means I played 145 stages for a grand total of 2900 minutes. (48.3 hours overall)

So yeah. I don't feel like touching this game for a week or so. I just need a short break to let my mind cool off after playing Holocure so much.

>>43283341
It might be better against bigger enemies than mobs. I don't know what her shop looked like but Subaru melted spiderchama really quick on her stream

>>43314527
Thanks, that worked.
Also good thing I picked up Chicken Feather by accident, I died 15 seconds before smol Ame. Maybe I wouldn't need it if I got BL Book past level 2 but that's on the game.

>>43291377
Well you were surprised by it, weren't you? I think it's pretty nice to do.

>>43315603
>(48.3 hours overall)
Holy shiet!

>>43315603
I kneel

>>43243240
Just Suisei and Shion.
I want to do Fubuki next but I haven't tried all the new characters yet.

>>43315603
Impressive, I still have about 7 left to go.
I'm also getting a bit tired of it. Stage 2 Hard is pretty fun but needing to go through stage 1 and 2 because it didn't register that I had beaten them already is rough. Luckily for most of those you can set up a collab and then just let the game play itself.

Not a bad first attempt, especially considering I screwed up my item build when the shiny blue magic axe dropped. I think I can hit 40, but I'm done playing for tonight.

Grabbing Halu 5 on my first ever endless was a fun mistake.

>>43318852
Halu was not the problem with that build.

>>43318907
I didn't really build for anything, just wanted to play endless for the first time.

>>43318942
Then getting Halu was not a mistake.

Second endless attempt with Mel, she's pretty good. Sadly I killed myself because I wanted to try using my ult, and died because I couldn't heal anymore kek. But I don't think I would've lasted much longer, I was starting to drop below 100hp. I think next run I'll try swapping out meal for plate.

>4/5 stages done with Azki
> finally just need to finish stage 1
> 16 mins in power goes out
Fuck me
Kinda funny as well, I got the super chicken feather at around 4 mins and already had body pillow + headphones maxed. Said fuck it and got it anyway. Kept running into enemies trying to kill myself for the extra stats but I just couldnt die

getting bored of irys, who else can farm good

>>43320428
Koone, Azki
But tbdesu you if you’re gunning for gachikoi ranks anyway, no need to farm gold. I have 800k from just getting 6 girls to gachi

>>43320428
Fauna. Literally farms saplings and entire trees. :^)

Do stages loop if you run right/left long enough or just go on forever?

>>43320428
Moom

>>43320799
They probably don't loop. Whenever an anvil appears, the game keeps track of its location even if you run miles away from it. You'll never "loop" around the world map and run into it again.

First attempt at Endless and I'm honestly surprised I made it that far with a character that's not even than tanky.

>>43245339
maybe Ollies graveyard/noodle shop from her debut?

>>43320799
>>43321199
I know the office loops, I've seen the broken Yagoo statue again by going left for like 4 or 5 minutes. Not sure about other stages though.