/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>43270069
>already squashed nijisanji in the domestic market
Umm about that...

https://youtu.be/_QyrUD2bKrk
Twitch in hot water over low quality views

GRIM

Cover's IPO means Holocure's probably dead since stakeholders can sue for copyright infringement.

I remember some # anons told me Cover would never IPO when I said they definitely would. Who is the fool now?

So some recap: Pekora want to play more Mario, chat suggest Paper Mario, also the mocopi stream seem like a collab

>>43270226
>>43270240
kys

>>43270226
the fuck with that retarded reasoning

>>43270156
Could you provide context to this image?Right now is pretty worthless

>>43270266
Basic IP law?

GuraBae numbers?

>>43270278
Looks like google trends, so yeah worthless.

>>43269988
The point was Bae is a wasted pairing with Gura. I'm criticizing his choices. There is a large list of people DECO is already familiar with that'd be better in the slot even if the song ended up half Japanese.

>>43270294
unless they changed their guidelines, nothing will change

>>43270226
that sounds like nijisanji

>>43270226
>>43270240
Didn't we go over that it's not IPO but instead Series B

>>43270226
>>43270240
Holobronies keep getting Blow the fuck out, what’s new KEK!

>>43270085
Im curious if the market restructuring for JSE made them do an IPO since they cant do Early Stage VC Series B like what they did back in 2020

>>43270240
Was away for a while and skimming the last thread, I see anons arguing about this being an IPO and not really being an IPO/some other kind of investment thing. Which is actually true?

>>43270256
Also seem like another Minecraft collab is coming, who know who Pekora collabing with this time

>>43270256
>More Mario shit
Holy shit we are really entering pekora recline arc

>43270156
>google trends
newfags everywhere uh? not even worth a (You)

still baffled by sisters thinking b2 even has the money and purchasing power to buy anything when bilibili stocks has been tanking

>people are unironically replying
retards.

>>43270340
Stakeholders can very well do it if they want to.
>>43270349
Nope. Listed on TSE. They're 100% public

>>43270349
What difference does it make?

/#/ is reclining

>>43270411
>stakeholders
the share is a non controlling share anon

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>60,411: Toya (Nijisanji)
>43,007: Nerumero (Indie)
>28,515: Lui (Hololive)
>28,447: Aki (Hololive)
>26,817: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,863: Lamy (Hololive)
>22,110: Sora (Hololive)
>16,521: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,238: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>16,024: Subaru (Hololive)
>12,623: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,558: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,553: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,370: IRyS (Hololive)
>12,245: Mio (Hololive)
>11,711: Nene (Hololive)
>11,576: Met (VSPO)
>11,230: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,156: Flare (Hololive)
>10,085: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

I think niji homos fell on the "brotuber" meta trap unaware.
Sure it's the biggest fad right now but to alienate your core audience in favor of copying your rivals' content style is just too risky.

>>43270173
actual viewbotting.

>>43270411
come on this is boring anon

>>43270367
They're listed on the TSE. It's an IPO
>>43270390
Why not pump into Cover to have their own stocks rebound? The logic seems all too real for them to be major buyers in Cover's IPO.

>>43270411
Read the release, retard.

>>43270256
>Paper Mario
TTYD is the last hope for some non-shit numbers

>>43270367
>>43270349
IPO stands for "initial public offering". If the company is listed and the shares are available for public to purchase *for the first time, then yeah it is IPO.

>>43270374
Does it matter? She is leaving the gold to other Holo this month after carrying them last month
I remember lot of Holos was on break last month, leaving Pekora as the sole defender against Niji

>>43270411
It is impossible for anyone to get enough stocks from this to get a controlling share since only a total of 25% of Covers' stakes are listed.

>>43270411
>>43270413
Pretty sure only a small portion of Cover's shared are public meaning you can't just buyout the entire company.

>>43270411
>Nope. Listed on TSE. They're 100% public
Are they on the Growth or Prime since that would determine if they get global investors?

>>43270445
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy
16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal
17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Marine, Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
34x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
3x: Marine, Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>>43270313
Shouldn't have expected much from a nijisister.

>>43270439
you should hear the doxxsister anon, she knows about /biz/ after licking anycolor's boots for so long

>>43270439
And what happens when that share makes up the majority outside the main trustees? Public pressure changes everything.
>>43270413
lol nothing, it's going the exact same route as Anykara.

>>43270475
Warioland is also a suggestion she noticed

>>43270445
Can Holoshit even compete with Nijisanji anymore??? 4/5 past Golds are Niji

>>43270479
>>43270498

>>43270256
Ah so it is still the debuff part of the cycle....

Which corpo is poised to capture Cover's marketshare on the long term now that they've committed suicide?

>>43270445
Cunny lewds for Chinman, I'm feeling Shion

nijisister are treating Cover's IPO as the same one that anycolor's did.

>>43270462
how did mysterio lose to bettel playing the same game? lmao

>>43270498
Growth. That's where global investors come into play.

>>43270531
>And what happens when that share makes up the majority outside the main trustees?
and how perchance would that happen anon? considering the shares they are selling are quite low

>>43270486
I don't think they have enough power to fill pekora's shoes

Does anyone have that old wall of text that has the dates of AnyColor doing something and then the later date Cover doing something similar or the same?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r3vfHwTUW8

Asmongold is flaming the Vshojo wizard game drama

>43270545
LMAO doxxsisters are so out of date with niji
imagine still trying to use selen pic for shitposting in 2023

>>43270390
They have money but cover BoD won't let them buy

>>43270572

You nigga act like it's that easy to pry the shares from original investors. Not even Riku let go of his shares yet

>>43270497
No shit. Company owner usually won't sell all their shares in IPO.

Jesus fuck are most people here new to stock market?

>>43270494
Yes? Bilibili? The Royal Saudi Family? Blackrock?

>>43270576
Tempus unironically stole their audience.

>>43270571
Phase Connect, Production Kawaii, and Idolcorp are the wild cards. VTubing is a global industry and they're the last big private companies left.
>>43270605
What happens when the initial shareholders cash out afterwards retard?

>>43270462
It's going to be hard for NijiEN to win this cause Tempus dominates the brotubing market.

For once, reddit actually made a better explanation for something than anyone did here so I'm just gonna paste it over.
TLDR is that Cover is only releasing 3.3M new stocks out and the rest that is being put up on the market were already owned by investors.

>>43270439
>>43270465
>>43270474
>>43270494
>>43270497
>>43270498
Holoseethe do your biz reps!!!!

>>43270462
>to alienate your core audience in favor of copying your rivals' content style is just too risky.
its not going to stop them

>>43270631
>>43270632
shhh let the sisters have their fun since its not gonna last long since someone just posted mystas private social media in the source site

>>43270631
CTO guy cashed out last year

>>43270532
GB/GBA ports to switch are already online? Mario Land saga for some short streams might be decent, for sure nostalgia fuel those 3 games sold untold amount of copies and are iconic staples.

>>43270545
But we literally have a tally anon in here to show that you're lying. >>43270501
Why lie?

>>43270576
LOL is a man's game. Why would the fag think it's wise to play it on chink primetime?

>>43270692
>Phase Connect, Production Kawaii, and Idolcorp are the wild cards
holy shit dude, can you atleast pretend you aren't trolling

Can someone fill me in on the top 10 highest concurrently viewed Vtuber streams from last year again?
I mean I assume it's entirely filled by Hololive since they squashed Nijisanji in the domestic market, right?

>>43270628

>>43270313
So, it's the mindchair thing again, I guess

>>43270692
>What happens when the initial shareholders cash out afterwards retard?
which one? the 10m shares out of 260m thats up for grabs?

Doxsisters link me to your chinese numberfagging site please thank you.

>>43270775

>>43270698
People who still insists Cover is technically not doing an IPO are falseflaggers trying to make holofriend looks retarded

>>43270462
nah he also got shit numbers with his valentine's stream. I don't know what he did but his audience has given up on him.

>>43270773
for vtuber streams its mostly holo
for vtuber company streams its niji

>>43270462
How do we even begin to fix NijiEN?
They're directionless. Even milord also tried to copy Tempus but to no avail.

>>43270828
Gura killer...

>>43270773
LOL, holoshit will never reach the heights of Nijisanj gods

>>43270772
I'm not trolling though? All 3 have been inclining hard since the summer of last year. Numbers are soaring in light of the Big 3 yabs as well

>>43270835

>>43270773
8 Niji, 2 holos

>>43270698
Being listed to public offering on the TSE website is pretty much proof it's going to be fully public dude.

Also go back.

>>43269624
Anon, they literally have too few people to make further inroads into the western market share. Hololive's Japan branch literally has 3x the amount of people to spread their business. That 2 out of every 5 people are non-Japanese is impressive as it is.

>>43270631
Actually Riku and Yagoo are the oddities here. They held too many shares, but that is probably the culture in JP. Bill Gates for example only hold ~ 10% of Microsoft share while Elon Musk holds about 13% of Tesla shares.

>>43270882

>>43270861
ah yes the "incline" the same "incline" that the nijien females are also experiencing
but then you forgot to mention about how idol's he branch flopped and how kawaiis bigges star got fired
gotta give props to phase though they might be able to remove niji in their spot in 3 - 4 years or so with the way they are going

>>43270769
They aren't thinking straight. Copying Tempus' preferred games would only facilitate niji's fans moving away from them.

Baits these past few threads had been extra retarded, guess the refugees are really here huh.

>>43270925

>>43270621
Yo wtf Asmon covering this is huge.
>He even mentioned Froot

Why does some people hate on the idea of Cover going public?

>>43270906
Ideally it should be 0, which is why Nijisanji mogs Hololive in Japan for the most part.

>>43270902
they are going public anon but the shares they are selling is so small some people are already saying that its some sort of scam

>>43270907
Microsoft is not an entertainment company.

>>43270906
35% of Hololive is not Japanese
41% of Hololive fans are not Japanese

>>43270845
>>43270856
It's hard to keep Niji's fans when Tempus is actively stealing them.

>>43270698
I think i read the same thing in # thread like few hours ago.

>>43270996
Because it's the loss of its Japanese essence. They'll effectively be owned by Chinese, Koreans, Saudis, and Globohomos based on who wants a piece of the pie. The Japanese interest stagnated.

>>43270975

>>43270996
It's sisters that are mad at the moment, when it was quite earlier pretty much everyone agreed it was a good move given how Cover outlined their plans on what to use the money for and them only generating a max of 3.3M out of 230M shares for public trade.

>>43271011
It's basically them securing more funding for certain projects isn't right?

>>43270828
DOA

>>43270462
I thought Bettel only won against Pomu because it was a collab? Why Luxiem failed to beat him tho?

Shitposter-kun what is your endgame exactly?

>>43271060
Cuz anon took it from Leddit 7 hours ago.

>>43271011
Number will go up in a few months.

ZA MOST

>>43271060
I got posted /here/ in text form a few threads ago.
But it still got some things wrong. But it's tldr so i gotta give it a pass.

>>43271060
Yeah someone else copy pasted it here earlier.

Huh thats weird crunchbase had cover as early Early VC Series B before the IPO announcement and put them as public listing after but now they are listed as Venture - Series Unknown

>>43270996
Because money moves from number 1 reason to the only reason the company exist. People as they move closer to it become money bags rather than anything else.

>>43271007
This is total viewership company-wide for today's JP primetime, why don't you take a guess at which line is which

https://twitter.com/shionchan_o/status/1626635519546523649
They fucked.

>Everyone shitposting about this and that company buying all the shares to secure the holopussy for themselves
>They will actually all try
>Cover will be 50$ a share in the initial IPO rush

would be funny

Will b2 trying to buy Cover stocks or they will stay away because of their bad history with Coco Taiwan thing?

>>43270856
you can't fix nijien, anon. they're imploding as we speak. they are losing viewers by the minute

>>43271108
To make holokeks seethe with facts and logic duh

>>43271079

>>43271124
Raided thread.

This is not the one.

>>43271132
*It

>>43270902
>Reddit format

>>43270996
People hated it at first but when they saw Covers plans for expansion most of the people got satisfied.
Nijifags however are still seething and falseflagging since they never got an explanation from Anycolor on where all the investment money went other than Lie:verse

>>43271124
INFLUENTIAL

>>43271191

>>43270462
>luxiem to tempus again
lol lmao

>>43271179
Former. Anything for a quick buck. Both parties seem destined to rekindle old blood over money.

>>43270698
The reason anons here are coping that it is not an IPO but a Series B is because retards keep saying that
>oh no look at anycolor, they became worse because of the IPO!
>all the livers are now money making tools for the investors!
>nijisanji is soulless because of the IPO!

They cannot use these point to attack nijisanji anymore because Cover also IPO'd. There are many things Anycolor did wrong but this is not one of them. I kept telling the anons to stop shitting on the IPO because Cover would do the same but noooooo >we must tribalfag here without using our brrrrrrraaaaains!

>>43271178
I think investors would probably do enough due diligence to notice that Cover employees will still have a 57% stake in the company after the IPO, so they aren't controlling shit even if they convince literally every other investor to sell

>>43271255

>>43270576
Fujos don't watch league. Niji homo too dumb to realize that

>>43271244
>Lie:verse, nijinig liars ok!
>Uhhhh idol reps for three concert a year with talents who don't give a shit
>some chinese phone bots
>Don't ask questions about the yacht sweetie

>>43271179
highly doubt they will try to buy the current stocks since doesnt get you controlling power and the fact that one of their investors is tied to the jap government makes it unpalatable for them
might be the reason why they did a 180 with the hololive thing in bili

>>43270462

>>43271291
Are you happy with where Nijisanji is now? Seems to me like the IPO only hurt them and gave them unforetold consequences no one liked.

>>43271291
You literally had Livers complaining about the direction of the company shoot up tenfold after the IPO.

>>43270996
Because you have people like this >>43271062 that don't read and don't understand the details of what is going on. They're knee-jerk reactionaries.

>>43270621
>>43270173
stop shilling your sub 20k ccv flesh streamer faggot

>>43271179
Only if b2 make a public apology and let Holo to be top of b2 again which mean never.
Bugmen is the type to kill their children to protect their ego

As a holochud I kneel to my NijiGOD masters. Hologirls are just inferior all around

>>43271296
Yeah, but if they believe hard enough, they would have the strongest position for later aggressive movement when Cover aims for its next big expansion. Only need to flip a few employees.

>>43271347
Everything I said is true and you know it since the IPO is global and JP viewership is stagnant right now.

>>43271291
Exactly Cover going IPO was obvious but retard anons here were too stupid to realise it now they have to eat their own word

>>43271300

>>43271291
Complaining about either IPO is retarded. Anycolor set their current direction well before it happened and Cover aren't selling enough of the company for it to matter

>>43270996
only homobeggars hate it cause they know their precious chuubas will be send to the forgotten room

>>43271291
>There are many things Anycolor did wrong but this is not one of them
pretty sure its one of their fuckups considering their livers even the heavy hitters are starting to complain

>>43270828
400 floor guaranteed. G-Gura killer IKZ

>>43271018
I wanna explain further but the retardation is off the chart today. Seems like none of you know how to invest. Actually it is expected because losers who is watching camgirls larping as anime characters are usually losers who don't know how to use their money wisely.

So do anon still believe there're Luxiem sisters in /#/ nowadays? There might be some Tempiss sisters though but i don't think they're the "steal the fujo" fags

>>43271179
Unlikely because Mizuho bank. It's related to one of Japan bigshot government

>>43271400

>>43270856
>fix NijiEN?
Graduate everyone

>>43271346
Yes and I resonated with them. At this point in time idk who's really a Nijifan or not. The IPO fucking ruined Nijisanji as it was. But at least now that all of the bad buyers cashed out in light of the recent events with NijiEN, recovery can be possible if they pull out of the market.

>>43271420
>So do anon still believe there're Luxiem sisters in /#/ nowadays?
yes especially with their own site down and them being retarded enough to not find the other site

>>43271402
Niji never really had a coherent company culture besides anything goes and hosting big events so they got jerked around by suits, meanwhile Cover basically has entrenched culture and bureaucracy that would need controlling shares to even begin to change.

>>43271291
Take a nap, reddit-kun.

>>43271420
Doxxsite got deleted, they are back

>>43271437

>>43271062
>Saudis
What's wrong with this? At least there will not be a homo-collab.

>>43270828
How is she anyway? Direction? Compare to the ghost?

>>43271406
What? Which liver complained about the IPO?

>>43271159
we need more cunnies in Hololive or more flat chuubas

>>43270845
It's either lux fags are in decline or tempus inclining

30 consecutive posts but the posters number remain the same

>>43271087
Yeah to build a new HQ and a 3d studio that is 5x the size of their current one.

>>43271387
Anon, it's three people that own 57% of the company (and two of them account for over 52%). The people doomposting about this are basically saying "yeah but what if the evil investor demons somehow convince Yagoo to ruin the company on purpose", it's too retarded to bother entertaining

>>43271179
Look at who owns shares in the company now. Not a chance. b2 couldn't get enough for it to matter anyway. They didn't dump in as heavily as Niji.

>>43271504
they arent retarded enough to complain directly about the IPO anon but most of the ones that were complaining and throwing shade about how the company changed recently

I wonder why NijiID and NijiKR got nuked.

>>43271414
Is it possible for microsoft to invest on Cover.
Afaik Microsoft has sponsored deal only with Hololive in 2022

>>43271528
sorry anon i was watching my cute wifes vod since i wasnt aware she'd do a fucking 4am stream

>>43271528
the samefagging is intense

>>43271486

I'm half expecting Watamage to slap down another drama/unfortunate circumstance for all the sisters attempting shit up things.

All we have to do is ban the spammer. So any anon with intelligent mind pls become a janny and cleanse this thread and free us from retards

>>43271528
Never realize how low our IP count is compare to how fast this thread can be.

>>43271573
they were a waste of resources just like holostars

>>43271573
>I wonder why NijiID and NijiKR got nuked
they needed the money for rikus yacht

>>43270462
I told you guys he's better mysta but you retards wouldn't listen

>>43271593

>>43271515
I think it's more of the former, the fags have multiplied but the audience hasn't grown

>>43271403
But tempus mogs nijien now though?

>>43271462
This right here, really. Also the talents themselves are fairly monolithic rather than clique central. Can you imagine if they did something that was enough to piss off Fubuki? All the talents are too close-knit.

>>43271573
Don't forget NijiIN, I mean EN, oh now they are IN again, oh they are dead.

>>43271528
What's with the perverse desire for threads to be long chains of drive-by phoneposts that don't respond to each other?

>>43271669
they barely bring some money to the company

>>43271589
pretty funny that the sisters and intern kun are working overtime

it abruptly goes slow.

>>43271498
She is turbo weeb and know how to cook, a completely different energy compared to Fuyo and Yuko, she's more like a loli baba, I think that's the name of the archetype. How interesting it will be to watch her normal streams is hard to say at this point.

I always shat on Anycolor over the IPO because it was obviously bad and I hate Nijisanji. I am shitting on Cover for the IPO because it will lead to a bad place eventually but I still like Hololive. I feel sad today.
>muh 3D studio
Not worth it in the long run.

>>43271648

>>43271687
You mean like force graduating talents that don't turn a profit? This is what will cause FBK to graduate and you're painfully unaware of it.

>>43271594
Watamage likes to cook her spells for a bit. Give it a time.

>>43271696
same with nijien which is why they cancelled the concert and told them to do karaoke instead

>>43271696
That's not true. There's little overhead in debuting talents. Also, Tempus presence keeps NijiEN from dominating the male market.

>https://www.youtube.com/live/MEjA3Rp-22g
Lmao, jew got memed into signing a complete meme.

>>43271738
They won't ever get it. Not when this thread, NGA, and 5ch will short the everloving fuck out of Cover

>>43271698
I will choose to believe the cunny scared them away

>>43271754
agree, both should get terminated as soon as possible

>>43271739
>They're going to graduate people and FBK will leave any day now. Just you wait!

>>43271782
>live

>>43271738
I want you to explain in detail how it is a bad thing that their in-house control of the company is reducing from 57.8% (today) to 57.0% (post-IPO)

>>43271696
Tempus stealing Niji's fans is already a boon for Cover.

Too many homos in this thread, you know that male vtubers are asian right?

>>43271738
>>43271786
Where do you retards come from?

>>43271806
Do you think the rest of Gen 1 is profitable? Answer my question.

>>43271737

>>43271817
Slippery slope.

>>43271644
bettel is a good talent. what they need now the most is more exposure

>>43271843
from flipland

So what is Froot going to do to back out of paying $45,000.00 to the pedophile company?

>>43271843
Where are YOU coming from? No one is happy with Cover going IPO outside damage controlling bootlickers.

>>43271846
Basically every Holo is profitable. The only ones who don't pull their weight is the majority of Holostars.

>>43271859

>>43271772
>There's little overhead in debuting talents
they could get easily 5 times more profit debuting a female gen with the same resources

>>43271843
its the sisters and intern kun working hard on shitting up the threads anon

>>43270462
Isn't Nari Luca's onahole?

>>43271644
We already know he is probably the best male streamer currently. The problem is he is stuck with Tempiss brand

>>43271920

>>43271846
seeing how fast they sell out merch? yeah

>>43271897
Everywhere else except here could actually read and don't think it's a big deal when the offer is so little and what Cover plans to actually do.

>>43271894
Nothing, how will anyone prove she did or didn't? It's not like she took donations so she has no legal obligation to account for anything.

>>43271840
kek

>>43271389
>>43271062
The Chinese or the Saudis can spend 10 year of their GDP buying Cover stocks and they will still have 0 say on how cover can run their business anon.
The best they can do is to threaten selling them, in which the 100% geneticly pure Nipponese can buy it from them again at a discount

>>43270996
People are comparing anykala to cover which is a big mistake, they have always had way different approach of business in the industry anykala went public for the sole reason of making money, cover seems to have a proper plan for the future of the whole industry unironically cover will lead vtubers to a new era.

pin it already t-"chan"
no one cares about some literally who birthday

>>43271695
And what's with the perverse desire for threads to be long chains of phoneposts that only respond to each themselves

>>43271565
That is a long winded way to say you don't have proof.

>>43271989

with cover looking for new investors i can see why they would want to make homoENbox so fast with 8 fags in 6 months. the girls already have the female EN vtuber market clamped on youtube so they needed to grasp what little they could for male vtuber market to make it seem like theyre expanding in overseas multiple markets.

>>43272001
its a nijinog still trying to push the narrative on how holo and niji are the same

>>43271897
Lurk more.

>>43271846
We've seen merch numbers and have an idea of how little overhead you need for vtubers that already have models, so...yes? Hell even someone like Aki probably has 1000 active members. Retard.

>>43271908
>basically every Holo is profitable
Nigga half of them don't even stream. That ain't profitable at all

>>43271644
Niji management better put Tempus in a collab ban then or risk losing some of their fans to them

>>43271787
That whore doesn’t scare anyone

>>43272038
yeah just ignore the consectutive graduations last year and the multiple rm rants this year

>>43272048

>>43272076
>Thinking the money comes from streaming
Come on don't be stupid.

>>43271897
I read the release, what they're doing, who owns company shares and how many are being put up. I don't need to doompost over it because I'm not a retard.

>>43271139
Their series funding was like 2-3 years ago anon.

>>43272011
No one's going to believe her if she doesn't give proof. Hell, most of all the tranny cult - they're the ones who'd be most interested in getting confirmation.

>>43272001
What happens when the wrong investors get ahold of the shares, anon?
>>43272018
Not when first tier investors plan to cash out, namely Cover's CTO people
>>43272057
They're literally not that different no matter how hard you cope

>>43272070
Iofi has 1000 members. She actually mentioned it when she hit that. Aki undoubtedly has more.

>>43272076
>he thinks streaming is where they make money
anon this isnt nijisanji where the livers have to resort to begging sc and voicepacks for money

>>43272034
Are you frustrated over irrelevant site, that doesn't bring audience to streams?

>>43272034
She is been inactive for few days. The news about new holofan app probably giving her a shock

>>43271806
Shirakami is 100% paid off. Holofans have so much blind trust in her that as long as she says she's happy everyone will be placated.

>>43271922
NTA, but while I agree with what you said there is probably some value in still kneecapping Niji. The question is whether or not it slowed down the release of EN3, which we don't really know.

>>43272135
Yes? SCs are the primary source of fucking income?

How do I turn my life savings into shares of Cover corp so I can not only have my life sucked into the parasocial aspect but also have my financial wellbeing tied to Hololive as well?

>>43272135

>>43272150
>What happens when the wrong investors get ahold of the shares, anon?
Nothing cause they won't have a controlling share since it's literally impossible to buy enough to get that at the moment.

>>43272173

I just saw the profits for America vs Japan up to march 2022. So America is their second biggest market by a country mile and they risked it by introducing the homos? Did they look at Luxiems profits and thought "we need that"?

>>43272076
I just want to point out that Suisei is still getting millions of views a week on music while on break, and music plays are the most profitable views on youtube

>>43272207
That depends on where you live

>>43271922
No need to rush new Holos since they dominate the girl's market anyway. No other agency can give what Holos can offer.
I think it's smart of them to focus first on the males since Niji En homos aren't doing well right now.

>>43272150
>What happens when the wrong investors get ahold of the shares, anon?
What do you think will happen if it does happen, anon? Show us your /biz/ skills.

>>43272161
Explain why 2 Holo RMs recently made e-begging posts on their Fanboxes then
Do your reps
>>43272188
It's fucking retarded man. Their fans are truly lower IQ than pigs

>>43272206
Retard

>>43272188
You know nothing about Fubuki. You absolute fuckwit.

>>43272254
Yagoo would risk anything for gay sex

>>43271737
she has tits?

>>43272203
I think nijis end up kneecapping themselves alone

>>43272206
Oh your just retarded. Superchats for Holos are only a small portion of the profits. Sponsorships, merchandise, and memberships are the main sources of income.

>>43272277
just 2? cause theres been 15 on the niji side just this month anon andd one of them is lize

>>43272203
Nijien was getting kneecapped way before Tempus became a thing. B2 introducing male vtubers that was copying Niji males was the start of their decline not Tempus.

>>43272276
Do you know what happened to Gamestop 2 years ago faggot?
We'll fuckin do it again with Holoshit after making their vow to get back into the Chink market.

>>43272215

>>43271861
Not that slippery slope never happens, but every goddamn nothingburger can become a slippery slope with that kind of logic. I’d rather be wrong once in awhile than live my whole life in a tinfoil hat

>>43272277
The dox site getting killed really did bring those people here, huh
Unfortunate

>>43272188
>>43272277
Easy there Nijisis. Your mask is slipping. Just face it. She'd rather defend someone like Coco than bow to you mainland garbage despite the fact that she'd lose more than half the money she was making by doing so.

>>43272260
Burgerland

>>43272254
Naah I already could see Cover dirty tactics. Probably will release EN3 and JP7 in small time frame around IPO then open more public slots.
They actually waited EN3 to overhyped their potential stocks. Reminds me of Anykara and Salome

>>43272206
thats for nijisanji anon since riku takes a lions share from merch from them

>>43272278
>>43272307
Nice cope. You've literally tricked yourselves into believing respective livers' paychecks are completely different. Until you show me fuckin proof I'm gonna believe Niji and Holo are exactly alike.

>>43272327

>>43271840

>>43272150
Nothing? Literally unless Yagoo decides he's had enough and all his shares than Cover will hold the majority of power even if all their offered shares on the market get bought out.

>>43272267
>debuting a female gen after more than a year is "rushing"
if tempus 2 show us something is that their next gens wont get better numbers no matter how hard they shill them

>>43272351
Shirakami is next after Kiryu, I've been telling you time and time again this was going to be the case and you never listened to me. I'm Taiwanese American btw so lay off your Muh Zhang cope you have in store.

>>43272366
Here you go from top to bottom
dark blue: streams/contents
blue: lives/events
light blue: merchandising
blue white: licensing (sponsorship), tie-up

>>43272366
>livers

>>43272188
Fuck off, man. Fubuki has proven herself time and time again unlike Mito who had to come up with that batsu game so she can have an excuse of opening her membership.

>>43272206
Holy shit an actual retard

>>43272411
2 more weeks?

>>43272359
How is that dirty? That's actually genius

>>43272414
based retardskiller

>>43272324
>I learned /biz/ from gamestop shit.
Thanks for expos-, ahem, sharing your amazing insight, anon. I will ponder on such a mind-blowing knowledge you imparted us.

>>43272397
Well if Riku is planning to cash out this year then I guess Cover will be sold in 2024 then

>>43272369

>>43272301
I agree.
>>43272325
Sure. But now if people look at males in "western" vtubing it isn't solely Niji anymore. Considering it costs them very little it's probably worth it as long as it doesn't appreciably impact the big money earners (the girls).

>>43272319
source? taking 10k yen per month to read your name seems more like a holo type of thing

>>43271840
like oshi like fanbase

To breka people out of the loop, here is the update on one interesting chart
* MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, FEBRUARY 1st to 17th, PER BRANCH *
>pic related

Some comments

1) Hololive continues their climb down from their all time high, but still keeping an unachievable high mark that no other branch can dream to mach, still staying over the 10k line for both their median and their average
2) HoloEN follows, with a more "modest" 6k+ median and average, still in a level no other branch (except for the above mentioned) can even get competitive against
3) VSPO, HoloID and NijiJP complete the top 5, alternating positions between the median and the average chart.
NijiJP, for having more "eventtful" streams, is #3 in the average but VSPO, having a more balanced cast without a long tail, has that position on the median.
4) Neo-Porte is massively dragged down by their long tail of sub 500 streamers and not even Hal and Reid massive productivity can drag their median up, despite being #6 in the average
and the punchline
5) StarsEN and NijiEN are in a deathmatch to the rock bottom, with both dropping below the 2k mark both on the median and on the average.
VSPO, HoloID and NijiJP got a commanding lead on these two branches which used to be way more competitive in previous versions of this chart.

>Cover goes public with plans for international growth
>just means investing more into NA
I guess I will never have holos to watch at convenient hours.

>holofes vid in b2 that went trending got removed
wait what happened?

>>43272359
If all the new girls gives the same statement that they ID girls gave, I don't see them being very big. They at most will be Bae tier.

>>43272411
>Shirakami
I'd ask where you people came from but it's obvious, it's the doxx site that got shut down yesterday

>>43270411

>>43272411
>Taiwanese larping now
Easy there, sis. You're making it way too obvious.

>>43272448
Then prove to me they're not the primary source of income and maybe not use retarded Holofag headcanon as "evidence."

Cover and Anykara are the same kind of place. Otherwise Anykara would be fuckin sparse based off the shit you keep bringing up

>>43272478
it hasnt been a thing since 2020 which is why nijisanji tops the charts in sc readings anon theyve literally moved to merch sales

>>43270710
yeah yeah, let's find your ward

>>43272482
explains why they're so menhera

>>43272487
Holy fuck Niji is dying

>>43272366
Another actual retard covers mega headquarters really mindbroke the sisters again

>>43272507
You do realize Nyfco is a 4ch/5ch offshoot right?

>>43272366
If Niji and Holo are exactly alike, then why do Nijifags hate Hololive?

>>43272487
>Tempus is ahead of NijiEN in median
That chart anon is doing some funny things with his data

>>43272487
>VERSEn has the lowest average of all corpos
That's what true GRIM looks like.

>an actual infestation of idiot doxsisters
Fuck this gay earth, I'm gonna go grab lunch instead of torturing myself reading this absolutely idiotic drivel.

>>43272468
We know Riku pockets all the money for himself so a cash out from him is inevitable but Yagoo unironically reinvents money that could go to him back into the company so a cash out is highly unlikely.

>>43272487
VSPO is coming for EN

>>43272497
They didn't do the IPO

>>43272487
Nijistatus?

>>43272254
Interesting since some anons here think that EN should ditch NA timeslots for JP.

>>43272525
>Otherwise Anykara would be fuckin sparse
they are not sparse beecause they spam new livers anon

>>43272277

>>43272267
>Niji En homos

>>43272593
chart anon is a nijinigger

>>43272588
I'm aware it's where all the insufferable faggots who got ran out of this board because they don't actually enjoy vtubers and couldn't stop breaking the rules for 5 seconds went, yes

>>43272411
>I am taiwananese btw
You better not say this publicly the Taiwanese will tier you into pieces for being a CCP bootlicking backstabber

>>43272277
Man... Go to kiwi or someshit

>>43272596
I'm getting lunch at Ramen place in a bit so I'm gonna be out as well.

>>43272591
Because Hololive keeps copying their predecessors even if they do something unbelievably retarded like going public, Einstein?
>>43272599
Copium. Please stop making up excuses when Riku and Yagoo are literally the same type of person. Conditions I deem fair my ass

>>43272458
They let us waiting for EN3 to overhyped IPO instead they gave us Tempiss while waiting.

>>43272487
>140 StarsEN streams for 396 total hours compared to 80 HoloEN streams for 239 total hours
rumao

>>43272470
It already did. I think that's why they did a 180 on collabs. How much did it cost them I don't know but them whiplashing us with weekly collabs then no collabs for months is very telling.

>>43271840

>>43272593
>That chart anon is doing some funny things with his data
Wut? Isn't that black "per branch" chart based on the true average?

>>43272487
GO HOLO ID GO

>>43272682
Anon we have the breakdown of salary Riku and Yagoo get. Yagoo has a salary of 50 million yen while Riku has 3 billion.

>>43272492
If they are willing to invest in Homo shitter then i don't think profit will be the thing that stopping them from investing in EU market.
Well unless they debut more NA girl so they can have more fund to invest in Tempiss

>>43272657
Kiwifarms is a better place to discuss industry matters than this fucking shithole anyways. I can literally say that some Holos are whores without people throwing a fit over it and those who do get mocked the fuck out of.

>>43272487
Imagine losing against homoflops lmao

>>43272682
>Because Hololive keeps copying their predecessors even if they do something unbelievably retarded like going public, Einstein?
Why does Cover keep succeeding when AnyColor fails every time?

>>43272682
All of this branches from the fact that this retard couldn't differentiate Cover and anycolor

>>43272696
Both his median and mean charts show Tempus is losing to NijiEN which contradicts this >>43272487

Sisters why are you upset? Just watch kino content it's not hard

What happened to NIjiEN?

>>43272440
>Mito who had to come up with that batsu game so she can have an excuse of opening her membership.
When did this happen? It was a point of pride among Niji fans that she never had memberships.

I might join just to stick it to Niji fans.

>>43272740
>Kiwifarms is a better place

>>43272740
Go back

>>43272487
>Animare is now the lowest performing 774 group
Holy shit, they need to suck off Roberu some more

>>43272740
Learn some synonyms, man! You're becoming another "whoreschizo", assuming you're not the OG one

>>43272740
i mean why dont you go back there then

>>43272740
Then go.

>>43272769
Chart anon uses a 30-day rolling average (or sometimes 60) so it takes longer for dips to show up

>>43272366
People like you really flooding here after doxxsite's got burned, huh....
Either read both prospect paper from both cover and niji before tou speak about sc and shit, from the way you talk looks like youre not here the day anykara goes IPO huh...

>>43272769
Anon those are based on 60 days running averages/median. The table is only for streams in February.
How do people still not get that?

>>43272734
Proof? Source?

>>43272788
nta but i think it was toya x mito 3d collab

>>43272769
>Both his median and mean charts show Tempus is losing to NijiEN
Can you repost it? Are they updated to Feb 17th?

I only know the average one

>>43272773
kek

>>43272740
Deleted?

>>43270986
kek I wonder what he would think if he saw Froot supporting Silver's bullies

>>43272595
Someone save my cute sheep please

>>43272776
>homo sub 5k
lol lemao

Lol it’s not even close
>Be girl
>Join Niji
>3views, 4views if lucky
>Join Holo
>Instant 4views
>Get to know and work with the biggest Vtubers around and they will also drag them up
Now that both company go IPO we can judge them objectively and Cover is still the better company for “livers”
Done

>>43272827
>>43272833
Oh, 30/60 rolling average. The anon complaining is a doofus then, this only has the first 17 days of February

>>43272897
sony will buy majority of the stock and will integrate verse into the holobox

>>43272682
>Because Hololive keeps copying their predecessors
Let's assume it is true for the sake of argument. We should expect Nijifags to like them, too. I mean, they are basically the same product after all, just with different brand names.

>>43272487
>Niji JP 1095 num of stream
Oh yea i often forgot they got more than 100 chuubas in JP side

>>43272604
Imagine a bunch of cute girls playing CS:GO to get a bunch of Euros watching them. Please do it VSPO!

>>43272487
Nijikek status?

>>43272737
Knowing Cover they would do something retarded like debuting local language chuubas for EU, I don't understand french or german any more than I understand fucking chinese.

>>43270902
>>Being listed to public offering on the TSE website is pretty much proof it's going to be *public dude.
ftfy

>>43272319
I don't remember nijisanji allow rm activities?

>>43272998
in shambles

>>43272487
>kawaii below a Virtual Maid Cafe (Masquerade)
kek. I've heard of this Nano Tenshi before, anyone knows anything about her?

Do companies normally go public but keep over 50% of the shares out of public trading forever? Seems like a cope to me.

/#/ is declining...

Why is kaela doing uncle Roger accent?

>>43272740
if thats what you think then just go to that site? Go on

>>43273110
she has been doing that for months now

>>43272693
>It already did. I think that's why they did a 180 on collabs.
I think the post summer decline was more RUST collapsing, return to school and Holo EN's shitty streaming practices. The number of people that dislike males enough to evaporate from even non-male streams just isn't that high to account for it.
>them whiplashing us with weekly collabs then no collabs for months is very telling.
Debatable. The collabing seems like it has more to do with the usual suspects of Mori, Ame and Bae being busy with Japan shit.

One of the aogiri passed a few rounds of hololive interview. Thank god she is not in holoX judging by the recent aogiri yab. Then again there are way better candidates than La+ out there so sometimes the recruitment missed.

>>43273086
Yes, actually, along with shenanigans like issuing more shares but making them a separate pleb class that can't vote so the CEO retains control while owning 1% of the company

>>43273000
That’s literally what Yagoo said he was interested in during the same interview where he was interested in the ES market

>>43273150
who?

>>43270828
actually inclined over the course of the stream and her live song was good this time even though the bgm was too loud
she's gonna fall into mid-3view for a while post-debut as her fans that cant speak english drop her but she has decent potential

This is funny. We have a NijiENfemfag who thinks Holobrand is different from Nijibrand e.g >>43272925
And we have a sister who thinks Niji=Holo e.g. >>43272150

Sisters even coping about male vtubers now, no one wants fat brown people pretending to be white anime boys

>>43272836
For godsake
Either foes to warosu and check last 5 thread + check anykara prospectus
Dont be a bitch, spoonfeed your self

>>43273175
>issuing more shares but making them a separate pleb class that can't vote so the CEO retains control while owning 1% of the company
Lmao corporate law is some cheeky shit.

>>43272682
>Hololive vtubers existed before Nijisanji
aiiiiiiiieeee stop copying us, sis.

>>43270156
>stil trying to bait people with google trends in the year of OUR LORD 2023
ngmi anon

>>43273086
That's how it works anon. Mostly around 20%, 90% are below 50%

>>43273210
kek

>>43273110
>uncle Roger accent
Dude that is Singaporean/Malaysian accent. It is like you've never seen anyone from that region talk other than Mr Nigel.

>>43273205
and both are retards

>>43273233
I accept your concession

>>43272836
Kek i am not going to spoonfeed you ex doxsister website user chan do your archive reps if you wish to be cured of the nijinigger curse or just stay ignorant until nijisanji collapses

Its past SEA time but the thread and bait just fucking worse, the fck

>>43273302
>concession
ah it's the nutjob from yesterday

>>43273000
Getting someone that knows English and French could be worthwhile. The French consume a lot of anime-type content. Making a branch for it would be insane though.

>>43272487
actually fucking grim for nijisanji

>>43273210

>>43273175
Did Meta also do it?