/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>43242712
fuck

It was bound to happen sooner or later.

Didn't expect that one schizo in /#/ would be right in saying that Cover would go IPO

So this might be the reason why Gura is slowly trying to graduate

>>43242712
yeah im ready to screenshot when their stocks going down

>>43242784
Gura is allergic to public investors? Or is this your little commie headcannon?

>>43242712
>>43242784
God the sooner Gura leaves the better
holy fuck

>>43242712
Im autistic, what does this mean for the future?

Now we'll know Anycolor have higher price than Cover!

>>43242712
great
now we can numberfag aycolor and cover corp stock prices
we'll be discount /biz/

>>43242712
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>43242850
Easier to get investor money but also being more profit driven.

>>43242784
What does this have to do with Gura lmao

>>43242888
>bans loli content for the west
they already have clearly pushed for it

>>43242712
The final yab
For real this time

>>43242888
Gura is Cover's guardian angel, don't you now that?

>>43242872
So we could see them pull a niji and shit out a new gen every month?

>>43242712
Can i take over and sack all homo?

>>43242784
It's obvious. Anything Anycolor does Cover does about a year to year and half later. Because of their slower initial growth that's about as far behind Anycolor cover is as a business.

>>43242784
>So this might be the reason why Gura is slowly trying to graduate
Pretty much, she's gonna at least need to maintain YOY revenue. Which if she's streaming a few times a month ain't gonna help when others could just provide greater overall returns. HoloEN basically can't have another 2021-2022 year where everyone but Fauna is in the negative. This also explains StarsEN being created to broaden the net on income streams. The next year is gonna be a rollercoaster ride for EN.

>>43242712
The Chinese will buy most of their stocks, they'll start demanding things, the talent won't like it and then everyone will end up quitting.

>>43242872
You forgot that investors will have more power over the direction of the company. Especially that one certain investor group that's always mentioned on /pol/ (and for good reason).
>>43242978
Yes. Another possibility is what they'll promote. Or chasing a good ESG rating.

>>43242712
This means that their number one priority will no longer be their fans, but their stock investors. It's literally over.

>>43242712
this only means less risky content in the name of not offending advertisers

she knew

Its over bros another anycolor is in the makings

>>43242712
it's over

welp there goes the last of the big 3, its over bros

>>43243163
>It's obvious. Anything Anycolor does Cover does about a year to year and half later. Because of their slower initial growth that's about as far behind Anycolor cover is as a business.
Why were Anycolor so late to the EN party then?

>>43242712
The beginning of the end

>>43243259
oh shit

>>43243587
They tried with Indians but didn't see much success

>>43243537
The funny thing about this all is it wasn't actually that big of deal for Anycolor. Majority ownership has stayed for the most part with the same people. The contents remained the same. They've been pushing "units" more as a way to monetize members better but they were already going in that direction long before the IPO when they started debuting all male and all female waves mostly with the Selejo girls and VALZ.

>>43242712
>isreal
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>43243714
>They tried with Indians but didn't see much success
Maybe they shouldn't have been retards and believed that indians were a good indicator of the western market's performance?
Once Coco blew up and western vtubers were getting bigger Anycolor should have immediately started work on their EN branch, but they didn't.

>>43243587
They made their overseas bets in the wrong places not seeing the potential of EN. But yeah they did make them prior to cover doing it.

>>43242712
EN3 soon.

>>43243830
I blame Hana desu, a self-hating american commie was probably the worst chuuba for Niji to have blow up in the west.

This is the beginning of the end for Cover. Chinese investors will buy most of the stocks and force vtubing standards set by the CCP

None of this is good for the livers or viewers, it means more "investor friendly content"

>>43243259
Are the Chinese pro homo or against

>>43242850
DIE scores will now influence hololive.

>>43243961
>Chinese investors will buy most of the stocks and force vtubing standards set by the CCP
Ohhhhhhh nyooooooo. I guess Hololive will need to stop their political activism now.

Lel this is why the holostars were getting funding cut. I can't wait for investors to force them to graduate.

>>43244022
>Are the Chinese pro homo or against
Like any smart nationalists, they are against it at home but don't give a shit about it being part of the downfall of western civilization.

>>43243259
Sony will try to be first in line

>>43244197
>Sony will flood the vtuber market
>No one expected that they'll begin with the EN and then the largest of them all
Well played if true

>>43243973
luckily japan is a decade behind the west culturally so 'investor friendly' still just means profits at any cost rather than 'promote insanity'

>>43244349
Sony have been investors in the largest vtuber company for a long time already though.

>>43242712
>Niji makes male branch
>6 months later, Cover makes male branch
>Niji goes public
>6 months later, Cover goes public
I'm starting to see a pattern here.

>>43242712
from the other thread it's series B, not entirely open to the public. up to like 23% of their shares would be public so it's not like you could buy them out and fire Mori or something. otherwise /vt/ would stat a charity to do that or something racing to get there before 5ch buys Cover to fire Laplus.

>>43247865
>offering 23% of their shares
>i-it's not entirely open
That's literally how IPO works not series B, dumbass

>>43247865
You got BTFO in the other thread and it's 100% a full IPO open to everyone in the world. From Chinks to Saudis to Gooks to Kikes, it's fucking over.

>>43243973
'For the Japanese audience'. Cover will never go woke, it isn't and will never be a western company.

>>43243587
Hands full with the Chinese and SEA market I'd imagine - which Hololive until that point was also deeply involved in. Nobody at the time expected Myth to blow up to the extent it did, maybe not even Myth themselves.

This IPO may legitimately be very interesting as I can only see the top buyers being Chinese, Korean, American, or Saudi. Do the Japanese even care? They couldn't even get a big share of Anycolor when they went public.
>>43248056
Hahaha DYRB? IPO means anyone can buy it. Not just the Nips

>>43244022
They are pro stock go up+anything they think will kill countries outside of china on a social, economic, or literal level as long as it leaves china out.

>>43248056
It's been a Western company since 2020 nigga

>>43242712
I don't understand
Explain in soccer terms

>>43248198
Cover is pulling a Man City and marketing themselves to the Middle East and China

>>43242784
They aren't fully public anyway

>>43248079
But they aren't going ipo

>>43248079
I could see japs caring. Cover is the biggest in japan isn't it? Anycolor has the quantity but cover is more recognizable isn't it? Even their more niche members excluding the men are recognized.

>>43248227
Yes they are. Stop damage controlling already.

>>43248227
Is this more series B cope?
The moment you appear on the stock exchange, you are public.
You do series B (or C D etc) and you are still private.

>>43248198
Yagoo wants a yacht

>>43248227
Because other stockholders still holding their stocks, moron
>>43248246
No, it is.
Stop coping

>>43248246
Yes they fucking are. Go to 5ch. It's fact.

>>43248064
>Nobody at the time expected Myth to blow up to the extent it did, maybe not even Myth themselves.
Doesn't matter, the majority of the world speaks english to one degree or another.
It was pure hubris on their part to think their regional market research methods meant shit compared to an actual global audience they were ignoring.

>>43248314
>meanwhile on 5ch
>HOLOEN IS DOING X
>no they aren't
>YES THEY FUCKING ARE. GO TO 4CHAN. IT'S FACT.

>>43248227
They're eventually going fully public even if they're only putting 25% of their shares on the market. Just accept it. It's fucking over for Cover.

>>43244491
Insanity can be real damn sexy though...

>>43248358
5ch and Nip Twitter know it's an IPO
They're laughing at us being retarded

>>43248383
Probably just probing since the new studio excuse seems kinda shaky

>>43243973
i agree with your point but
>livers

>>43244491
>means profits at any cost
That philosophy created Tempus, you stupid retard.

>>43248358
Nips both in and out of 5ch are all calling it an IPO.
Appearing on Tokyo stock exchange means you are going public.
IPO stands for initial public offering.
An IPO typically is anywhere between 15~40% and Cover is going with 23%
However because it is public, if any of their current shareholders decides to cash out and sell, and the right chink buys it, they can effectively have more say in corpo decisions.

>>43248441
HAHAHA THEY WONT EVEN GET SHIT FOR THAT WHEN THE DIP HAPPENS

>>43248418
Meanwhile EOP on this board was probably tricked by some with a half-ass japanese explaining the whole thing completely wrong but still thinks anyone with a decent level of Japanese "will know it's series B"

>>43248495
My favorite EOP cope is that foreign buyers can't buy Japanese stock. Nigga do they not know that TSE is FUCKING GLOBAL?

>>43242712
How long until Sony buys majority shares in both Cover and Anycolor?

>>43248593
>>43248663
rich chinks that still wish ill for hololive or just make very dumb decisions and are insanely profit driven are probably licking their lips and rubbing their hands together looking at this IPO announcement.

>>43248663
Honestly since they get to pick it's probably going to be Bushiroad and Kadokawa mostly. Maybe Microsoft but their augmented reality stuff is in shambles I'm pretty sure

>>43248909
And it'll be Tencent later on :^)

>>43242712
It's over lmao

>>43248495
>23%
They are offering 2.3m shares out of 200m shares. That's 0.6% not 23%

>>43248938
I already mentioned Kadokawa

>>43242712
they are selling 0.6% of stocks lol retards

>>43249012
The total offering stock is 1,500,000+10,927,400+1,864,100 = 14,291,500
And the total stock of Cover at that time will be 61,124,200
Where the fuck is 2.3m shares and 200m total come from?

>>43248064
>maybe not even Myth themselves
Definitely not, they thought that even reaching 100k subs would be a major accomplishment.

>>43249040
23% retard

>>43249012
>>43249040
Oh I love this cope. However, it's already been debunked.
>>43246148 read this and then this >>43246557

>>43249178
It's an IPO, but on the growth exchange. This is a smaller, separate exchange typically used by growing companies to raise funds for specific projects (in this case a new studio). They're also issuing the minimum number of new shares possible (TSE requires that you've issued 25% of your authorized shares to list on it).
The issue here is that everyone thinks "IPO" can only mean "the early investors dump all their shares to go live on a yacht in Tahiti" when that's not the case at all.

https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=hololive&from_source=webtop_search&spm_id_from=333.1007&search_source=5
Its not banned in CN retards check the latest clips they're recent. Hololive never wasn't blacklisted in China in fact the fandom is stronger than ever and looking to have more

>>43249307
I don't see 23% is anywhere "small"
Every company does an IPO sells around 15%~40%

>>43249307
It's an IPO. They are going public. An IPO. They are on the Tokyo Stock Exchange effective March 27. Anyone can buy their shares. Anyone. Retards like you don't understand 23% is INITIAL. Full would take place 4 months later. That's how IPO works.

>>43242712
Prepare for Korone waving tranny flags and dick mutilation clinic sponsored streams.
It’s unironically over.

>>43249319
They should tell their companies to stop blacklisting Hololive and give the perms.
The entire world will prosper.

>>43242712
The moment fbk graduates is when cover isn't a good company anymore.

>>43249391
It's an IPO, but on the growth exchange. This is a smaller, separate exchange typically used by growing companies to raise funds for specific projects (in this case a new studio). They're also issuing the minimum number of new shares possible (TSE requires that you've issued 25% of your authorized shares to list on it).
The issue here is that everyone thinks "IPO" can only mean "the early investors dump all their shares to go live on a yacht in Tahiti" when that's not the case at all

>>43249656

>>43242712
Your oshi will be forced to enter the banishment room

>>43249705
That's not what it is though. Why did you repeat yourself?

>>43242712
Fuck, hope they don't go the Riku route... feel very anxious about this move, it could be the beginning of the end for real.

>>43248938
i'll take chinks anyday than jews

>>43249830
Worse, many JP anons are speculating that the entirety of the shares may be foreign bought and Riku will actually come out on top because he's largely kept it Japanese after the top Chinese buyers sold their shares to Japanese ones recently

Can you buy japanese stocks if you don't live in japan? I want to short cover

>>43249890
Who said Blackrock and other globohomo companies won't want a piece of the Cover pie? They'll be in on Day 1. Guaranteed.

>>43249930
If you have the money, yes. Public means global trading.

>>43249472
gonna unironically kms if that happens

>>43249178
>>43249012
>>43249080
>>43249161
retard
>total shares = 230 million
>what they had already sold through previous private investment rounds over their 5(?) years of existence = 59 million (this portion was no longer cover's to begin with for a long time)
>how many of their own shares Cover is seliing right now to private investors they accept: 1.5 million (0.6%)
now kys rratpaddler

>>43242712
Someone explain what is wrong with this?

>>43249936
Thought blackrock was already collapsing, motherfuckers should fucking die sooner, I don't want them pushing their bs ESG scores on hololive

>>43249930
A lot of the Chinks from the past will be doing that alongside you.
Also yes.https://capital.com/how-to-invest-japan-stock-market-japanese-index-sony-honda-panasonic-shares

>>43250014
>>43249178
I am once again amazed at how dumb people are

>>43250014
What the fuck is this retarded cauculation?
Share isn't cauculated by sheer value, moron.

>>43250014
See>>43249178

>>43250014
I can't even find where does all these number come from
Do you pull them from your ass?

>>43250014
You included me in your dumb shit when I already posted explanations as to why it's not 230 million. >>43249178
You just cannot read. I get it. You're dumb and refuse to listen to what everyone else is telling you.
Enjoy seeing cover on the share market.

>>43242712
Worst case: the Nijification of hololive, a streamer for every taste, push for more hours, cutting streaming support for talents to minimum, reduced management headcount.

Best case: someone will finally tell Yagoo to put his dreams of Holostars where they belongs, in the grave.

>>43248483
it can get much worse than a handful of biological men

It's starting kek

>>43250412
>Worst case: China, Korea, America, Saudi Arabia etc. buy more than enough shares/receive the shares from those cashing out. Hololive completely changes to a global audience for worse
Best case: There is no best case. IPO is the death of Cover as we know it

>>43250412
No matter how much /vt/ tries to cope. The stars have not caused cover any financial losses nor do they incur losses by existing.
The memberships, SC and merch selling out of the stars is enough to keep them around.
The real best case is the girls can no longer be fucking lazy or risk getting canned because they are actually providing nothing.

>>43250515
BASED BASED BASED

>>43250515
Im gonna grudepost this for nijisis retardation.

>>43242712
Hololive is dead. That supposed leak seems all the more plausible now.

>>43242978
No. They only open IPO for more privates corpos not for private individuals. And they only open for 1.5mil of their 65mil value to raise money for new studio. They raised 1mil from 1.9mil cost for new studio. They'll use their own fund for the rest of the 0.9mil

>>43242712
I guess this is goodbye to HoloID

>>43250515
LINK?

>>43250061
Imagine you have a store that sells fruit, imagine you print 100 tickets, imagine that you say "anyone that buys my ticket will get 1% of the profits I make in my store" and you hold the majority of the tickets (over 50%) and therefore you earn most of the profits, then if your store has good profits then people will want to buy your tickets to get a piece of the pie, and the more profitable your store (or the more profitable it looks) the higher you could sell those tickets and you could use the money of those tickets to invest in your store to make it more profitable.
Now, imagine that your name is Riku and you sell over 50% because you want to cash out, people will notice that your store has too many employees and not so good revenue and you keep employing more people but grow is not showing, well, the value of your tickets will decline, and so does the money you will get from those tickets, which could be pretty bad if you spend on luxury and unnecessary stuff and you end up in debt and you depend on the money the tickets sales generate to keep things moving like paying salaries or paying for events instead of canceling them, so in order to keep trust you could choose to give the majority holders decision power on how to run your store so they don't fucking sell, as it is their money invested in your store and they seek to get profits, which could lead to them to make the most souless decisions because they will aim at low risk stuff or worse, they would jump to the trend of listening to trannies in twitter about how they should force inclusion and stuff.

>>43250765
Why?
No one buys their merch?

>>43250765
>cover supposely IPO
>Holoid gen 4 annouced
>open recruitment for gen 3 and another homostar
This thread is full of retard

>>43249095
If I weren't there, I wouldn't have believed it even if you told me now. A Gura outfit reveal getting almost 200k CCV still seems fucking absurd. It really was the weirdest mashup of beneficial coincidences.

>>43250896
Can't afford it once the NGA-/vt/-5ch coordinated Cover Squeeze of April 2023 happens

So should I invest in cover or do I short it?

I'll make it patently clear now that I have the document in hand. According to official jpx documentation cover has 59,624,200 shares in circulation (privately). I'll round this to 59mil. They will be selling off 12,791,500 stocks initially to the public, and offering 1,500,000 new stocks. Their total stocks after IPO will go from 59mil to 60mil, but the public investors will purchase 13mil of the currently existing shares, so around 23% of the shares will undergo ownership change. The 230,000,000 share number some retards are using, is the total limit that the company can create and offer in it's total lifespan. Currently only 59 mil exist, soon to be 60mil. This 230 upper limit is called 発行可能株式総数, which means total possible offering. The 59mil is 発行済株式総数, which means total offered (in past tense) shares, ie total shares in circulation/existence. In the future hypothetically they could offer up to 230mil shares total, but that would dilute existing share holders value, and usually requires a 株主総会 (shareholder meeting) where majority agrees to finance the company by diluting and offering more shares, obviously with a cap of 230mil. 14/60 = 23% new ownership (to start!!!!). Current owners may choose to sell more shares after 180 days (the document says most significant shareholders are in lockup for 180days excluding the IPO 13mil.) Also, this is standard, not 'low'. For reference the most recent IPO (5246) had 0.2% new offering, 25.7% sell off on IPO. So 25% total ownership change (to public investors). Japanese IPOs, ordered by most recent: 25%, 20%, 10%, 33%, 38%, 52%, 11%, 14% etc, you get the gist. It's a very standard IPO.

>>43242712
Does this means all this time their decision were not based on stockholder's interests? Some things finally made sense now. Between the weird horror game projects and open-world games, the risks in their decision-making doesn't seem too calculated.

I'm impressed it took this long.

I this a good idea? It depends on how much they can resist shareholder pressure.

Ultimately it lies on yagoo's spine.

>>43250896
Or maybe that's why they debuted the 2 waves of homos first, so they couldn't affect the stock price and would be free to get the boosties from EN3 and JP7 without debuffs, but at the same time have their foot on the ENfujo market.

>>43251347
Short it. I'll make a general for it the day it goes public.

>>43242712
I am on my way to buy many shares and become the legal owner of Nene.
Then I will make her divorce all of you.

>>43251470
Kek, gamestop 2.0

>>43251440
At the end of the day it depends who the existing shareholders are and how much they care, since they will still be holding the large majority of the shares

>>43251584
It's being shorted. Cover will go under by April. Maybe they should have never approved for them to go public

>>43251440
Yagoo will literally be a billionaire after IPO. He has 0 worries... He probably fucks all the talent too... what woman wouldn't fuck a billionaire who literally owns you. he could literally give a slight suggestion to any talent and they'd be forced to fuck him or lose their income and fame... what a lucky man. The only damage to his spine will be after he indulges in too much prime snusnu. His life is perfect.

>>43251610
See you in april I guess

>>43251627
Not when Cover is getting shorted. He had one job since Hololive is most antied agency around the world. Now antis will short the fuck out of it.

Is there really enough antis to short it?

>>43251654
Bet. You haven't learned from 2021, Robinhood shill

>>43251705
Were there enough to short Gamestop? There's your answer.

>antis will short Cover stock
Bitch, the overall available stock Cover opened for the public is just 25% at most. 25% distributed across several shareholders will not be enough to even cause Yagoo to glance in your direction.

>>43251705
China has metric shit tonnes of money.
All it takes is a couple pre-IPO shareholders to cash out to a chinese company, and for said company to buy as much of the 23% as they can.
Suddenly a Chinese company gets to sit at the meeting table and make decisions.
Since cover is going public, they legally cannot refuse buyers. So they can't say no to a chinese company buying their shares.
tldr better hope the existing shareholders aren't looking for a cash out.

>>43251785
25% is a shitton of money at risk

>>43251785
You didn't factor in existing shareholders that wish to cash out.
If any of those hold anywhere from 5-10% and a chinese company buys it, suddenly said chinese company has a say in decision making.
Add this ontop of the 25% which they can likely get 10-15% of if they wanted.

jp stocks are that easy to buy?

>>43251674
Let me let you in on a little fun secret. You can lend stocks. The other party can short stocks that are lended to them. If said party sees a bunch of people shorting, they can approach a majority holder and have them lend the stocks to short on their behalf. Then they can split the profit. And all of this... is entirely legal.
Alternatively some hedgefund guys can challenge the shorters, keep the stock price afloat until options reach redemption, and cash out on retarded antis. Assuming sales and profit don't fall, you're literally incentivized to counter shorters. Hence the widowmaker never working against the BOJ, it's too divisive and competitors will long you out.
Once you're a shareholder you can't lose money. It's very very difficult.

>>43242784
Can they actually go IPO, when they have talents like Aqua, Shion, Gura, Kronii, Ayame who don't stream or Holostars who can't survive by themselves?

>>43251965
Yeah. Easiest in the world. They're also the most volatile stocks in the world too so there's that.

>>43251869
23% is not enough for anyone to demand company decisions anon, not least of all on a Jap company. And the chance of all shareholders divesting their shares at the same for one entity to snap them all up as nil to impossible.

>>43252019
23% is enough for a 2nd majority shareholder in most companies like Cover though.

>>43242712
are they finally going to get funding to not rely on VRchat model makers and animators to make MV s?

But think of how sad yagoo and the girls will be if the company gets shorted and goes under :(

>>43251883
>>43251942
25% is already including the shares pre-IPO anons. That literally is the maximum available for anyone to get.

So why would I superchat my oshi, when instead I can buy and partially own my oshi through stonks?

>>43252110
SO SAD THEY WILL HAVE TO BE PRODUCTIVE :(((((((((((
Cover going IPO is the best fucking news for a unicorn like me. This way we'll know who really cares and who doesn't.

>>43252121
You might be on to something here...

>big shareholders want to have orgy sex party with Gura, Ina, Pekora, Marine, Miko, Kanata and A-chan
How do you protect your oshi?

>>43252114
And what if all 25% of that is from multiple Chinese buyers?
Game over

>>43252176
Become one of the big shareholders duh

>>43251988
>Stars who can't survive by themselves
I really love this cope.
Despite what anons want to believe, the stars survive just fine with their memberships, SCs and merch selling out.
The only costs that cover has to pay for any talent is the l2d, which pays itself off on monetization/memberships opening.
Cover doesn't fund any projects like the songs covered. Which means anything after the initial ROI is strictly profit.
Axel even confirmed he is getting his membership and sc pay which means he's already paid off his l2d model.
tl;dr the stars aren't going anywhere, it's more likely to see the lazy girls either stop being lazy or get Sana'd.

>>43242850
It means it's unironically over

>>43251988
anon streaming is just a part of their jobs there is merchandise, fanevents/appearances and the girls you mentioned works on that alone lmao

>>43251988
>I'm such an ignorant EOP I have no idea how vtubing works and don't know that there are dozens if not hundreds of vtubers who ONLY do concerts.

>>43252238
This. Unironically this. It means the shareholders now have the majority in company affairs. Hololive's charm was being private and letting the company handle matters internally. Now the public gets to dictate the future of Hololive. But I guess that's a good thing since our views will now be accounted for if we can buy a good number of the shares?

>>43252267
The very least, investors will demand tangible proof of said projects. At the very least anons get to see if these magical projects are real or are just excuses for laziness.

>>43252310
How is 25% having "the" majority?

>>43252298
Not when the stakeholders believe that streams are all that counts which is true.
Say goodbye to all of the deadweights if they don't meet stakeholders' demanded thresholds. They're the new managers now.

>>43242850
It means people with money can directly influence hololive's future, even the culture it has right now can be changed slowly.

>>43252352
It could be good enough for the 2nd most present stakeholder in company affairs?
>>43252334
Like this.

Will Disney buy Gura now?

>>43242712
Are these the changes Kiara and Axel were talking about months ago?

>>43242712
Does that mean that tomorrow some oil prince can buy half of Cover and start producing a Hololive gachas, as well as real games?
Maybe now Hololive will actually be as popular as it could have if Cover wasnt stupid.

>>43252544
Yes. Several JP have mentioned changes as well.

>>43252356
>Not when the stakeholders believe that streams are all that counts
The stakeholders are /vt/ morons now? Nahh

>>43252544
>Kiara and Axel as the financial chuubas of Cover
I want their insane takes on this subject now

>>43252570
Yes. In fact I know one of the Saudis who bought SNK and I just know he's going to be interested in delving in a large portion of the shares.

Eeeeh I'd say wait a few weeks and see how this goes. But knowing where I am we better do some rattmancing right now.

Let me make this simple for the retards who ignored my last post.
The shareholders are already obligated to divest 23% of their shares. They will make so much fucking money it's incredible. Then, after 180days after the IPO, they can buy and sell freely. Now imagine you're a venture capitalist. You bet 2 million on some retarded tiny japanese businessman with soulless eyes in 2017, because you saw the anime industry was booming, the streaming industry was booming and this could surely only lead to money. You invest 2million. You wait a year. Then another. Your bankrollers (PE funds are backed by other investors or other funds (called fund of funds). Finally the stupid Jap says he can probably IPO in two more years. You see green. Next year your investors are on your ass, your promise of 35% IRR still hasn't been realized, and you dogeza asking them to wait two more years. Finally IPO comes around. Jackpot, shares you bought for 2 mil are now worth 200mil. Exclude leverage cost and you're looking at 160% ROI. Holy fuck. You sell off the obligated shares on IPO day. Pop champagne, fuck escorts. Play golf. You are god. Wait. You forgot you could only divest 10% of your shares... You only made 20mil. Your IRR is in the fucking 10s. WHAT THE FUCK. You're a little retard and didn't check lockup. You call your lawyer anxiously, what's lockup periods like in JP? 180 fucking days? You run to the office. You start calling every Chang and Huang you can find in your contact list. Yes CCP investment LLC 14? Huang? Remember that time we played golf and fucked escorts at that place in Ginza? Yeah, I have shares worth 180mil, and I need liquid... Yeah I'll hold. Five minutes later, Huang says he'll give you 170, that's a good margin. But you can do better, fuck this good. You call Chang working for Beijing Dick'Dong Investments LLC 3. He says best he can do is 173, fuck that guy, his quants are retarded. You call up Feiling from Ching Chong Capital. You talk sweet to her, but wonder what the fuck a woman is doing in finance. But you can tell she wants your cock, then as you whisper in her ear through the phone, you finally let it out. The big number. She cums right then and there. 175 take it or leave it. She agrees. Your lawyers contact hers, you sign the contract, badabing badaboom you're god again. You call your investors and they can hear your smug ass smile through the phone, you tell them IRR just got closed out at 39%. You wait the 180day lockup period and rake in your 20% incentive bonus. You're now worth 4 mil.
The end.

>>43252606
Not just /vt/ you idiot, 5ch, NGA, anywhere where the fan has money. Them and Chinese businesses, American NGOs, and Korean/Saudi elites. That's your 25%

>>43252570
Inverse can happen where a group of rich chinks buy it along with any shares from holders looking to cash out on their pre ipo stock and then drive cover into the ground.

>>43251674
Why hello there gamestop dilettante.
Here's a fun trivium for you: Shorting a stock does nothing to it or the company.
A Short Put is a bet that it will fail. IF it drops, the short is profitable. If it rises, the short is a loss.
The persuasion that exists just in "a lot of people are shorting it" is barely skin deep, and you can profit over screwing shorts too.

Just as importantly, by nature short puts have infinite potential for loss, and a much harder limit for gains.

If you want to bet that cover will tank, be my guest. For the near future I only see two decent causes for drops: IPOs tend to be overpriced by nature, so there's a natural drop right after; and the jp market is a few different varieties of insane, turned upside down on cocaine and fucked over by tentacle monsters. Neither is disastrous for the company if it's not relying on extensive credit.
It might be, of course.

>>43252201
lol this shits gonna be biblical, this board will lose its fucking mind with every minor incident and stock ebb and flow, lol goodluck to the tommy horts crew, the only thing more autistic then japanese business is a publicly traded jp business not to mention the jp market has some of the most volatile tendencies out there,

>>43252662
That's more likely to happen

>>43242712
good bye hololive, I've had fun

>>43252638
damn, this could be a show.

Any gachikoi rich enough to become a major investor out there?

will this impact how easy it is for them to acquire perms?

>>43251358
So hololive is finished then.

>>43242712
This might be the first time I've ever been truly disappointed in Yagoo.

>>43252828
I'm a millionaire KFP AMA

>>43252872
Why did she do it?

>>43252828
lol i cant wait for the retaded gme diamond hand drooling niggers that think they are jordan belfort, im actually hype this board is gonna reach levels or schizo and retardation that we cant even rationalize

>>43252659
That's right, the elites is where the money at. The people who don't really care but would be informed that streaming is not all there is to it to the business. Not a bunch of uneducated image board dwellers i.e. /vt/ morons such as yourself.

>>43252946
Will we reach new record speeds on this board?

But OPO doesn't necessarily mean you've lost control of your company right? You can define a special class of shares with disproportionate voting power, and they can even lose that extra voting power when you sell them.

Am I the only person more worried about how this will affect the holos and the content than how this will affect moneys and mongolian basket weaving forums?

This is clearly happening because yagoo is stepping down, it's the only answer

>>43253017
Just think anon, if you make it big from these stocks you can spend that money on akasupas to your oshi and hear your name read more often!

>>43252983
dude imagine the retarded niggers who cash out their roth iras and shitty little 40k 401ks and put it all on cover and then something happens and they lose a large amount, the superchats are gonna be amazing, ppl have no clue how volitile the jp markets are and can be

>>43242712
Goodbye, holoid

>>43242850
We're entering the equivalent of WWE's PG Era

cover will literally turn into anycolor, this is not 10 years in the future, they still don't know how to handle these shares, everything will go to shit in due time, prepare for massive yabs

>>43253017
lol the merch queens and revenue cows will be compensated accordingly, the doormats like anya and matsuri and all the other cunts who TUMMY HURTS BRB 8 WEEKS, not gonna work, especially in japan where everything is already hyper autistic, lol holo mems about to have their own Paul Li in their asshole.

>>43253017
Yes, you are the only person worried about that despite the majority of the board being worried about that.

>>43242712
It starts with going public. Then the corporation turns evil. It's over

>>43253017
Well the reason they did this is because they are making a new studio, so that might mean more 3D stuff or events. At the end of the day only time will tell though.

>>43252073
Might as well upgrade equipmenr and hired more staff to fill in their 2nd 3D studio or even make the 3rd one and open it for other ppl to rent it when it's not being use.

>>43252189
>>43252310
>>43252395
No 25% is not going to be enough to change the culture of hololive Jesus. Not even considering the fact that some of those 25% is most likely non-voting stock, it will not be enough to overrule any major decisions. And keep in mind this is 25% across several investors, not just one. Even if they're all chinks, they still won't be a hivemind. I know /vt/ shits on chinks, but in the end, an investor's goal is an increase in their investment. They know they won't be experts in the field and will most likely defer to Cover.

>>43252638
Not reading that wall of text
Learn2format retard

>>43253279
maybe they can actual get real talent managers that understand what they are doing instead of retarded uni grads that sleep with their talents dakis every night,

>>43253307
i mean just google standard ipo timelines and possible outcomes, this is as boilerplate as it comes. you dont need to read that dudes adderall fueled wolf of walstreet rant

>>43253307
is

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for (you)?

you

plebbitor

>>43253294
>They know they won't be experts in the field and will most likely defer to Cover
lol
lmao
rumao roru roru

>>43253143
Compensated for what?

Anon in here who doesn't know shit about stock exchange keep saying that chink antis will short the stock to the ground.

But there are no such thing as individual or a group of individual that can successfully short a company

Those who can short the stock are 100% hedge funds back by bank institution or a fucking billionare.

>>43252974
No streaming=No profit
Simple as

>>43242784
>So this might be the reason why Gura is slowly trying to graduate
sure schizo, sure

>>43242712
I am going to shoot yagoo in the head

>>43253017
10-20 graduations going into 2024.
You're going to see a very different Hololive soon.

>>43253389
He also forgot that no shit Cover is selling 25%, that's the bare minimum if you are listed in the growth market

They arent going to be forced to fuck because of this right?

>>43242712
Hope they don't get bought by any Western company. Flare being incapable of saying "dark elf" is bad enough.
Captcha:4THAGS

>>43252201
omegalul...

>>43253294
>I know /vt/ shits on chinks, but in the end, an investor's goal is an increase in their investment.
Chinks has long weaponized investment. If a chink says it's gonna invest on you, always think ahead at what kind of string they've got attached behind closed doors. Or you'll end up in a debt hell.

>>43253143
Based. They fucking deserve it at this point. Hell fire half of Hololive while you're at it. Someone's gotta hold the livers accountable.

>>43253485
Anycolor will say no to your face then.

>>43253594
I don't think their liver has anything to do with it, maybe their brain.

What does /nasfaq/ think?

>>43253294
YES IT FUCKING WILL. That's enough to potentially be the 2nd largest voice in the board room during internal affairs. The public represents the people, and it won't stop at just 25%

>>43253594
wamy's liver...

>>43253511
While i don't see 20 happening, I could see at most 10 in total. I have a feeling Stars will see the most talents leave, EN will have a few, and ID will have a couple and JP will be like one or two.

>>43253294
Cover won't needlessly antagonize major shareholders either and if any of the existing ones sell there'll be way more than 25% in circulation.
Obviously Cover won't suddenly be owned by the chinese, but they will certainly get a significant percentage of the available stock and this will have some effects.

>>43253668
lamy aint goin nowhere dude shes one of the most profitable talents they have.

>>43242712
Owarida...

>>43253737
Rui Chen buying Cover for 1 Trillion could happen

>>43253737
25% already includes the existing ones pre-IPO.

>>43242850
The Pozzing has officially begun

>>43253765
What does that have to do with her liver?

>>43253788
And they can sell their shares at any time to cash out.
Game over. Hololive may very well be a subsidiary of Bilibili at this rate.

>>43253874
that shell be able to develop cirrhosis by age 30 with the finest adult beverage humanity can make.

>>43253788
Sure but the private investors can also decide to sell theirs now to the public, couple of them will cash out as soon as the lockup ends to make returns on their investment.

is this what kiara is doomposting about.

>>43242712
All good things come to an end.

>>43242712
God dammit. I am so tired of this fucking timeline. Everything I love gets destroyed by greed. Why are humans like this...

>>43242712
bilibili will be the biggest investor. They will become the sole "distributor" of hololive content in chinkland.

>>43253990
absolutely no shit, its the jp market, this is the fuckaround market for ppl dude, its got relatively loose regulation, but they will account for that ppl arent retarded this isnt wallstreetbets dude, now can it go over their estimation or calculations sure, but they obviously know ppl will dip after lock up.

>>43254126
They will actually buy Cover by 2024 or 2025 for almost $6B
Cap it

>>43251988
All of them, even the EN stars make enough money to justify their continual employment. JP stars may be in trouble because investors may look at the EN side and ask why can't JP get as much views/cash as them.

Maybe investors will fire some of the 500 employees who seem to do absolutely nothing
Seriously why the fuck has cover so many fucking employees

>>43248079
Not really. Americans can't buy it as well as a few other countries because that would be illegal.
They always say some shit like "IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN YOU CAN'T BUY THIS", this shit is in moonrunes but I am 100% sure it's in there

>>43249930
If you know somebody in Japan, yes, you can.
That's what I did. I shorted Anycolor near the top.
At that time, retards were telling me "HAHAHA WHAT AN RETARD HAVE FUN LOSING YOUR MONEY" or "ANYKARA STOCKS CAN ONLY GO UP!!! VTUBING ISN'T EVEN PEAKING!! THE PROFITS ARE ONLY GONNA INCLINE!! LOOK AT MUH PROFIT MARGINS!!"

Well, who's laughing now, retards?

>>43242712
>Aquacrew can buy stock and force Aqua to stream
Based

>>43242752
first post sadly best post

>>43254325
>its the jp market, this is the fuckaround market for ppl dude, its got relatively loose regulation
You actually believe this? Lmao.
Japan's securities market is one of the most strictest in the world. America, despite practically banning Americans from buying foreign stocks, is much much more loose compared to Japan

>>43244085
everything is aggressively political to chinks

CHINA HATE.

>>43242712
>public vtuber corporation
Save your oshis, lads. Before it's too late.

How do I buy Cover stock with my autism bux so that I can help it GO TO THE MOON?

>>43257233
>muh japanese securities folded 1000 times
why doesn't this board EVER have anything negative to say about nippon? it's weird.

>>43260860
Just say you hate hololive and want it to burn and for all the talents to die. Just skip the bullshit.

>>43260968
this

>>43243973
Most investors are going to be Japanese
I doubt people on the level of Pepsi would give a shit
Although there was a spike in increase vtuber corp

>>43242712
> Yagoo slowly sells shares as fast as he can without causing panic.
> Yagoo leaves Cover, and new management is chosen by investors who demand profits at any cost.
Enjoy the ride.

Is it possible for Reine's mother to buy the shares?

>>43248079
Can Reine's mother to buy the shares?

>>43262222
>>43262329
SEA

So long as a holder doesn't get an stock amount big enough to force decisions/changes on COVER, it's ogey. Meanwhile it's just a board. Still might expect to see some shift eventually in the type of content Holo talents deliver but to be honest they probably won't since nips are the ones who know about the market for vtubers

>>43262743
Nips aren't going to be the buyers, anon.

>>43264890
Close the doors on that fucking country already. Japan is kill.

>>43264971
Duh. Hololive/Cover will be fully global in a few years. The CEO, the trustees, the managers, they'll all be non-Japanese.

>>43265351
all the cute yagoo merch photos will be replaced with the new CEO omega's fat ass trying to fit into the latest merch

>>43253082
The only difference is that Vince McMahon isn't there to destroy the company.

>>43265462
Omega won't be around. It'll be Chinese bigwigs and Saudi royalty

For some reason, I don't like the idea of public Vtuber agencies. It just feels like something destined to not end well.
Well, I'll try not to doompost and be happy for Yagoo.

>>43244491
like what? Blackrock's esg dominates the four mega banks that run japan. Yagoo is gonna be eating out of a shoe.

FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT SHORTING CARRIES A RISK OF UNLIMITED LOSSES!!!

>>43243862
>>43248330
Considering how their JP talents treated EOPs in their chats I can see why they thought ignoring that market was an okay move.

>>43251988
>retard thinks 3view streamers aren't lucrative
lol
lmao
they also sell considerable amount of merch for their size and fill venues for their lives

EN was already condemned with the tranny managers but now this puts the final nail on the coffin. They will put tranny and nigger vtubers pushing identity politics in their content as well as brainwashing viewers into chopping off their dicks. Gura is in danger because trannies dont like loli and either she gets a remodel or quits.

>>43242712
>can short your oshi
Based, fuck you anon.

>>43242784
Unironically most chuubas are probably retards in terms of finance and don't even know what IPO is. You think gura gonna knows what the fuck an IPO is.

>>43242956
??? Who is they? You guys are unhinged if you think investor are going to grab the iggest asset and destroy because meh

>>43266865
It's funny how you guys think all of EN won't be cheering on as they go woke.

Hey blackrock yeah invest in this company.

>>43267508
management denied gura her daki because its "problematic" until she told the story to marine, who told her manager, who went to upper management to get EN fixed

>>43251674
helo nijiniggers, learn a bit more before you just spew some bullshit because you watched the big short once.

>>43244154
>The downfall of Western society

Mate, you are talking about vtubers...

>>43267508
buddy you do know how badly they fuck with Gura because shes a loli already right?

>>43249890
same thing, retard. China's decade long, and trillions of dollars wasted, belt and road initiative is literally just for Israel. Damascus was the most important city in the original silk road and that's less that five hours away from the west bank.

>>43257026
Based shorter

>>43267508
lmao life isn't like tv. It's not shark tank or warren buffet. in 2018, 30 trillion dollars globally were invested with esg. Literally more than the us gdp invested just to be woke and to fuck shit up.

>>43242784
Cover going IPO was eventually going to happen and HoloEN must have been happy. The IPO was an incentive for Yagoo to resolve internal disputes. Hololive talents having fights with management over Live2D models or default outfits would cause shareholders to ask questions on why more wasn't done to reach a settlement.

Gura and Ina going on long radio silent health breaks followed by Cover announcing an IPO would explain recent events. They were trying to settle long running disputes before having to explain them to new shareholders.

/pol/tards contorting themselves into knots over how a private equity firm is actually a leftist indoctrination group and taking over Hololive will make for great shitposting.

Not. The content will probably not change much but expect 3x the number of threads with people trying to read jewish lgbt trans conspiracy into everything.

>>43268907
>t. Blackrock stakeholder

peak vtubing time has passed
time to sell out while you can
smart move desu

>>43268907
>It's not this thing because it's not! You're silly, because my priors taught to me by tv and public schooling told me you are. Ebin shitposting though! I'm not booty-blasted while crying about antisemitism on a site were people call me a niggerfaggot and a cis incel.

>>43269063
JP has yet to peak. It keeps growing and growing.

>>43242850
It means Cover will be partially owned by people who look at share prices and don't know or care about what the company does, and would be extremely willing to fire people and abolish entire departments if it was within their power and would produce short term financial gains.

>>43242712
Soon to be soulless...

>>43267289
lol knowing nips they will fuck them too, they will get the big jps to fall in line and ens collective iq is 90, imagine inas financing lmao she says she does her own book keeping LMAO imagine making well into the 6 figures and not getting someone experienced to do you shit for you, then we have mori who lord knows how fucked her tax history any time she opens her mouth about money i lose years on my life listening to her, Yagoo and the ojisans will get their bags, ppl are being really sensational on both sides, we still have to see what they actually are willing to budget and how it will be managed.

/#/retards were wrong about fiscal years, and they were wrong about IPOs. Nobody should listen to anything they have to say on fiscal topics, or on any topic, really.

>>43242712
I will make sooo much MONEY!!!!

>>43242850
>Im autistic
Kill yourself