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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
what went wrong for irys?
>>43185158Recent clip numbers>>43181532>>43181552>>43181578>>43181600>>43181626
Can we skip to lamy lewds already?
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>38,879: Toya (Nijisanji)>31,781: Calli (Hololive)>31,008: Subaru (Hololive)>25,266: Pekora (Hololive)>22,904: Kanata (Hololive)>21,814: Korone (Hololive)>20,241: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>20,213: Uiha (Nijisanji)>18,471: Shion (Hololive)>18,081: Hayato (Nijisanji)>17,957: Hal (Neo Porte)>15,119: Ui (Indie)>14,476: Watame (Hololive)>14,422: Botan (Hololive)>14,122: Subaru (Hololive)>13,386: Mumei (Hololive)>11,991: Fauna (Hololive)>10,750: Nerumero (Indie)>10,285: Nene (Hololive)
>my cock in pekora's thin feminine hands
>>43185190yes, go ahead
What did we learn last thread, amigo?
>>43184963>Now most of the EN scene is taking cues from Hololive and avoiding males entirely, and after Vesper basically imploded, male chuubas have just completely evaporated in reputation.It's a good thing anon. I actually support the idea of male vtubers, but the VAST majority of them are uninteresting, unfunny, unentertaining, creepy, weirdos, sex pests, leeches, menheras, morons, can't manage themselves, etc.The only way they'll ever succeed is if they excise the cancer, and so long as those types feel even REMOTELY welcome they'll never leave. Once EN males are good and LONG dead you'll only have people actually interested in entertaining left, and then slowly but surely a good male can grow somewhere, one day he might even get into Niji or Holostars and start some kind of renaissance for the EN males, but that's wishful thinking.
>>43185213>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,315 - 5th anniversary stream4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 202314) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy>PER COMPANY10x: Hololive5x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora2x: Marine1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY33x: Hololive12x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER18x: Pekora3x: Marine2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa, Toya1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro
>>43185103>>43185110He spoke against the ones who whined about vtubing being an unfair hobby for men with basically the mantra of "just keep working instead of complaining"
Matsuri broke her KU100 by plugging in the input while voltage was applied. That things fucked. what's that 10 grand minimum?
>>43184545> Koroshio> PekoHinajesus did we timeskip back to late 2019? is NuCoco gonna debut soon?
>>43185230nijirais love to start holo vs holo
>>43185190Even if by some miracle someone else wins today, there's nothing wrong with looking at some Lammy lewds.
>>43185245Luxiem is a bad influence on male Vtuber, at least in ENFujo pandering exist in JP too but I’m sure none of them goes as far as Vox’s
>>43185230We learned that our Tempus boys stole all of NijiENs viewers lol
>>43185252She chould buy 10 and destroy 9 if she wants to
*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*>2/15 DAILY TALLY31,781: Mori (Hololive)13,386: Mumei (Hololive)11,991: Fauna (Hololive)9,718: Fauna (Hololive)8,750: Ina (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab>PER COMPANY15x: Hololive>PER STREAMER4x: Mori3x: Baelz2x: Amelia1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii, Fauna, IRyS, Gura>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)24p: Mori21p: Baelz12p: IRyS11p: Amelia, Mumei9p: Ina, Fauna7p: Kronii, Vox5p: Kiara, Gura4p: Vesper3p: Uki, Luca, Magni1p: Mysta
>>43185252Apex Gacha stream soon
>>43185158Sex with elves
>>43184622OG FPS chuuba and pekochan's ooold friendiirc she lost most of her audience after her cheating yab
>minecraft>2,962How do we even save chammer at this point...
>>43185259pekomiko bros our time soon
>>43185230I love shion-tan!! T u T
>>43185319>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY28x: Hololive16x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori4x: Baelz3x: Mysta, Ina2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, IRyS1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Fauna, Gura>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)43p: Mumei35p: Ina29p: Amelia, Baelz, Mori28p: IRyS26p: Vox, Fauna23p: Mysta17p: Kronii14p: Luca13p: Selen12p: Kiara10p: Pomu8p: Ike, Millie7p: Regis5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Gura4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel
>>43185307Rich people don't stay rich by wasting money.
>>43185259>NuCoco gonna debut soon?EN3 and JP7 are next. It's possible
Shion and Korone are so close it's beautiful
>>43185288And now Hex is taking it even further
>>43185259>PekoHinaWhat?
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei >Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_ >MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0 >Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune >Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune >Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff >Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich places to end up for these streamers include>NijiEN Gamers >HoloEN3 >Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs Other notesTsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888 VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713 Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944
>>43185333who?
>>43185372Pekora called Hinata on stream
They are SO close to each other.
>>43185332She had a hard time transitioning from prerecorded content to livestreaming and fell behind.
IRL streaming proves that constant growth and solid fanbase > Explosive growthNo disrespect to Gura, she has earned her millions, but she's also one of, if not THE biggest vtuber with the most dead subs behind maybe kizuna ai because the people that came for ''uwu shark cunny'' left when she didnt do that. Hell after she took a break, some schizos turned their back on her because ''she didnt like being a streamer anymore''Bae does great on retention, has a really solid fanbase (you can tell because the same fanartists that drew for her on her first days keep doing it and for the really high number of gold medals) and most importantly: She always has different avenues of new subs via collabs and different streams. People who dont know Bae/her style are more likely to be exposed to her than say Fauna because Bae will go out of her way to diversify the watcher pool.Which is why Anya had so many troubles getting off the ground, since she was doing her own thing and practically refusing to collab with anyone except Ollie and ReineTLDR: Bae has similiarities to Mio, where they seem like they are lagging behind but they are playing the long game of building a solid fanbase like the good ol yt days, which pays off tremendously later on your carreer
>>43185384>Castella InomoriJuly 30th>MelonbreadJuly 23rd>SelkieOctober 16th>SellenaDecember 30th>UsamiSeptember 27th>>RoaFenJanuary 6th>Etherna CelineJuly 27th>>Etherna HelenJuly 28th>Makoto & Akira MisakiNovember 6th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfxMCtHl4kcOh Chima is also doing outfits reveal
>>43185252anon when when a thing breaks you dont need to buy a new one, you can repair it for much less
>sub 30k solo mincra
>>43185357If you cant waste money, that mean you aint rich bro
>>43185410>he says this when mr beast and pewdiepie has even more dead subs than gura
>>43185245I wonder if the cbdct sisters would be willing to dumspter dive 2view male chuubas to find actual entertaining ones like this thread occasionally does. Then again I guess most women are just attracted by big numbers...
>>43185332It's so awkward, I wish holo could save her but she is considered to be one of vtubing forerunners and she can't really give up the persona or have it join something like holo. I think she makes enough to get by as a 3view.
>>43185410Who?
>>43185417JESAS Thats fucking outfit is GODLIKE
>>43185410Hi Bae
>>43185410Bae had no growth potential, her voice and personality are poison from an entertainment perspective.
>>43185417DEUS VULT!
>>43185417Oh fuck
>>43185179ships killing gfe or something
>>43185417Going from Lamy's to Chima's outfits reveals.....the drop in quality is very noticeable...
>>43185417>nazi outfit
>>43185440She would need outside forces to "kill" Hinata. Nobuhime style
>>43185410
>>43185406the FPS cheating thingey didn't help either
>>43185429A fool and his wealth are easily parted, bro.
>>43185333>>43185417Hat could use a little bit of ooomph but otherwise pretty good.
>>43185500looks like french
Nice blogpost faggot
>>43185417
>>43185440siro and hinata will be in jp7 ala suisei stylei will not take my meds
>>43185410bae will incline to the moon after her 3D sex debut
>>43185417why would they give that outfit to someone trying to be a singer?when is the context even to use it?
>>43185301>ourpsssh
>>43185555That would make them Gen 0 members.
Jawohl, mein Chima!
>>43185515That's such a poorfag thing to say
>>43185417Her head is so wrong when her eyes are closed. Her face becomes only 25% of her skull
>>43185566>theyAs far as I know, Niji only paid for the first outfit, the rest is paid by the organ themselves. So Chima paid for this.
Havent been here for quite some time, everything seems to be normal. can i get deetz regarding to HoloEN3 or JP7? I stopped after tempus 2nd roster was added. it's unbelievable how they willingly dropped the ball of ENgirls market. even moreso that of another potential foreign branch like Korea.
>>43185555Siro is doing fine iirc.
So what’s the ETA on NijiEN finally winning a cripple gold? The only thing in the immediate future is Enna’s bday on the 20th. From what people said, retard fish is supposed to have an outfit in a couple days? But it falls on the same day as Ina 3D.
>>43185554This, once everyone sees how good she is at dancing she's going to be giving pre-cull Gura a run for her money!
>>43185410bae is already dead. her core fanbase only seems to get smaller. her paypigs are gone, and she's now regularly getting 2-3k on gaming streams. it'll only get worse from here.kronii's dedicated fanbase is also dwindling, but at least she still has many gachis who will sc her like crazy
>>43185595please tell me she plays RPGs or something at least... last I remember majority of her content was karaoke streams
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1626174559585185792
>>43185597EN3 will be the first Holo mixed gen
>>43185606>dancing the other anon said sex, only 3d sex will make her incline
>>43185626she mostly does Karaoke and occasionally Minecraft with her friends. She is more a singer than gamer.
>>43185597welcome back, Homo gen3 soon
>>43185597still in speculation stage. auditions went up again, so people are hoping that EN3 is ready and it's for EN4, but people are also doomposting that EN3 is only just getting started and will release late this year. Either way JP7 is more likely to arrive first.
>>43185626Singing, Minecraft, niji collabs and the very rare fotm game
Stop forcing Holoen timeloops, faggot.
>>43185230That wacky antics in the ring lose to stone-cold reliability in the long run. Oh, and it also helps to have a monster locked in the closet for when you just need to KILL a motherfucker.
>>43185601>So what’s the ETA on NijiEN finally winning a cripple gold?when milord returns from his aids treatment
>>43185626She also play with my dick most of the time
>>43185410>Bae doesn't really get much attention compared to other Council members for some reasonThis has frustrated me for quite some time now and the theory I came up and stewed in my schizo head with was this: HoloEN's audience values Western meme proficiency and humor the most, over hard work, and even over other talents. Coincidentally, meme proficiency is something Bae is famously the weakest at (i.e. being a "zoomer normie").Think about it, Gura was the breakout talent that skyrocketed Hololive (and arguably VTubing's) popularity in the West, and why was that? Probably because of her history with Western meme culture. Sure she's an amazing singer, and sure she's really good at being dumb and making it look funny, but I doubt that's what got her to the first 1 million subscribers (well, maybe the dumb and funny part helped too). For all the praise Ame gets for her creativity, Mori gets for her hard work and talent in music (well, personal tastes of course), Ina for her art skills, and Kiara for her ability to talk for hours on end, Gura ended up on the top for her sense of humor and culture.When Council came, Kronii ended up leading the sub counts, presumably because of her design, but I'd wager it's to do with her deadpan and "doomer" sense of humor as well. I vaguely recall this being the reason my friend was a Gura and Kronii oshi. Nowadays Fauna's the fastest growing in EN, for what reason? I doubt it was her ASMR or gaming skills, but rather her witty sense of humor that somehow evaded the common eye.Now I don't mean to downplay these sorts of talents, hell you can probably argue that humor and connection with the Westerm meme culture are probably the most important things you can have as a streamer to make playing Block Game for 6 hours entertaining for your Western audience. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't frustrated when I looked at R*ddit and saw more people praising Fauna for her Harambe reference than even noticing Bae's Akatsuki cover primarily because Harambe is such a shit meme like jesus christ. I don't mean to say that Bae isn't funny either, but IMO her gaming streams haven't really had her cracking jokes that well either until fairly recently where they've improved a lot (probably due to her needing to focus on games at first).Regarding the lack of passionate Bae fans willing to go full KFP, I agree but I also don't mind having more sane-minded company. I would try and be that guy just because I'm already quite mentally ill judging by the length of this reply but I'm also quite busy with school and part-time.
>>43185332Wasnt FPD Hinata already confirmed to be Botan , because Botan back then was in her circle, and when Botan left , she no longer played FPS? And the rrat also solidifies when her content was more on VODs
>>43185410Bae is absolutely not growing, the opposite actually. The amount of dedicated bae watchers has only gotten smaller. Fauna is the only council that has grown her fanbase since debut. Mumei's fanbase has remained largly the same size despite inconsistency, while Kronii and Bae have been slowly declining.
>>43185566I could swear I've seen some idol or K-pop groups use something similar, sans swords. I'm not gonna go searching now though.
>>43185410>TLDR: Bae has similiarities to Mio, where they seem like they are lagging behindBae has NOTHING in common with Mio because Mio is not lagging behind pretty much since mid 2021, almost two full years ago.Mio finished 2022 with the 9th (!) highest average of all Holo girls, trailing only the first army, Gura and Korone.
>>43185648it's such a mismatch for her image... I guess she just liked the look
>>43185410bae is dead, she panders to too many communities by now
>>43185626She mostly plays minecraft. I'm not sure if she's ever played an rpg.
Stop fucking copy pasting blocks of text here.
>>43185179Her tummy always hurts and she has an NTR fetish.
I ain't reading all that shit
Ollie 2k get! You wouldn't believe her Apex mixed event tweet got 1 million view, mogging the all other recent Apex related event tweets from her.
>>43185664You can't beat the basic, bro
>>43185464Eh, still more tolerable than Kiara
Ollie is putting the Homo only part at the before the mixed part? lmao so desperate to advertise them
>>43185566Uhhh anon do you memory-holed Suisei's battlemaid outfit?
>all you have to do to get (you)s now is to write a shitpost on bae (a 3k shitter)pathetic, at least with fauna and mumei they had some months with respectable 10k ish medians consistently
>>43185671>>43185410
>>43185721If she was desperate to advertise them, why did she put the girls only first?
>>43185724Suisie has her suicopath and tryhard personality
>This much seething over baeLiterally don't care, council are irrelevant anyways and so is EN, except for mumei and gura, they're cute.
From my observations, the easiest way to get (you)s is to say Last Samurai
>>43185751because timezones are bad for a lot of them
>>43185671>and saw more people praising Fauna for her Harambe reference than even noticing Bae's Akatsuki coverAn entertainer MUST learn to play the strengths of the medium he's embedded even if it is not his "natural talent".Hell, SPECIALLY if it is not his natural talent.Failing to try to make up for their shortcomings with study and practice is the doom of any person trying to be great at anything.
>>43185775The timezones are bad for a lot of tempus. That didn't stop her from putting them second and third
Another day another niji (virtualreal) yab rumao.
>>43185721imagine how she'll feel if the girls only part gets the most views
Koyo, Ichika, Haneru, and Patra
>>43185813what happened this time
>>43185707no worries the twitter trannies will defenitely watch the big event
>>43185820She knows. Everyone knows
>>43185812yeah, but those guys are desperate and would NEVER pass up a chance to leech of the girls even if it meant doing an all nighter
>>43185410Welcome back, "Pomu has higher growth than Gura" anon.
>>43185730These aren't even shitposts, they're serious posts straight out of Bae's split
>>43185822what's this supposed to be?are they in the game?are they playing it together?what am i looking at?
>>43185671The west highly values meme culture, if you can’t tap into that or create memes then you’re dead in the water.
>>43185671Lmao her akatsuki cover sucks bro of course a fucking harambe joke got more traction
>>43185707Would be funny if one of the girls' POV beat the main POV
>>43185822Get those bitches away from my oshi.
>>43185864Towa has a chance
>>43185820it actually depends because she said the members are allowed to stream their pov, so if a lot of the girls from the Holo only part stream, the main stream with ollie will get less viewers and the other stream might get more viewers because less or none of them decide to stream their pov
>>43185845Ollie was the one that set the times, why would the this matter at all?
AZKi is going have a hard time in this overlap, and Bae will get the blame.
>>43185849When was she supposed to have more subs than Myth? She hasn't even beaten Kiara yet.
KoroShion is breathing life to my shrivelled up heart
>>43185832Your usual grooming fans, giving extra services offscreen to biggest paypigs, talking shit about other streamers including colleagues. This already happened a lot to vr and he is literally a 3 view so it's not gonna kill vr.
Bae should just play HL and dogwhistle right wingers like Pippa. Being a "based /ourgirl/" pickme is a proven method of eceleb incline and it's not like it could make things worse.
Kson made it to the top 10. In the next round, if she gets to be the runner up she will be one of the hostesses in the game, but if she wins the first place she will be one of the playable characters in Yakuza 8
>BaeThe reason for her stagnation is because she doesn't have a clear direction on what kind of niche would he be a part of and I genuinely believe she knows this as well. That's why you can see her trying out so many different things in the past few streams as well.Honestly good on her for trying. I just hope that she wouldn't get discouraged for anything and just keep up doing something she enjoys. I quite like her newly friend game show. She's one of the few western women who actually gets what vtuber is supposed to be. She's just unlucky that Council is just a cursed gen.
>>43185881>set the timesshe would obviously ask all participants beforehand about availability at different times
>>43185588Exhibit A https://www.ladbible.com/news/97-million-lotto-winner-went-bankrupt-eight-years-20220801
>>43185861according to bae's fanbase every song and cover she puts out is a masterpiece, yet they consistently flop and fail to break a million most of the time. at least other fanbases admit it when their oshi doesn't have great covers (deadbeats, kfps, hoomans (especially them)) hell even kronies
>>43185897You can never go wrong with a classic Valve game after all
>43185897I know you're trolling but just for the record: Bae already gets better numbers than Pippa
is there any way to save Haachama's numbers? she's pretty much ID-tier now...
>>43185886AZKi hasn't had issues with overlap before.
>>43185897its an incline when you are a 2-3view shitter in some indie company anondoing things like that can kill you in the big leagues just look at zaion
>>43185912She clearly didn't because Fauna accepted not realizing it was in the middle of the fucking night for her
>>43185929Sometime Haachama feel like the relic of the EOP pandering era. Before Hololive I saw her EVERYWHERE on Reddit and basically EOP meme in generalBut we’ll, EOP dropped her like a rock
>>43185926For now. Again, her metrics are only reclining.
>metaverseTest
>>43185912So Ollie asked everyone and the girls wanted to go early. Then Ollie didn't manipulate the time to help the bois
>>43185929haachama is a prime example of act like a niji get niji numbers
>>43185908She’s not a gamer and she’s not strong at zatsu. I actually really enjoyed her persona series but she plays that like once every few weeks now.
>>43185908Bae and Sana are responsible for the failure of council. Aussies are just not it. Shit on Kronii all you want but she brings more numbers to the table than Bae and Sana ever did despite barely trying.
>>43185919>kfpsHas Kiara ever put out a true flop? Fpr soem reason it feels like her music does better than most holos, even JPs.
>>43185333>>43185929Stop samefagging. No one gives a shit about your "concern".
>>43185976That one acoustic cover for hukes birthday
>>43185929ENcull, unironically
>She's one of the few western women who actually gets what vtuber is supposed to beQuite the opposite. That's SNO.
>>43185976Depends what you mean. The term flop is in the eye of the beholder, much like the idea of someone being a "3k shitter" making six figures.
still funny to me that the only JP Ollie got for the mixed one was Towa lmaowithout her it would not be a truly all branches mixed tournament
>>43186024???? Anya is there
>>43186008Oh yeah, that one. I even forgot that it existed.
>>43185929Why would i watch haachama when mumei exists? Mumei is cuter and also does the schizo shit sometimes.t. EOP
>>43185929Streaming is secondary for her so I doubt people would watch her regularly.She still get a lot of gifted subs everytime she stream so she is still fine.
i like baeshes a good girlgood girls will be bless maybe not today but somewhere in the near future.
>>43186024Anon, tell me which JP would be interested in Apex, and then tell me which of them don’t mind collab with Stars
>>43185992I didn't even read the post above
>>43186021I said "true flop" because her music does really good regardless. I only meant it in comparison to her own stuff.
Do you guys think that bili2 and anycolor boosted both salome, luxiem and event numbers artifically to boost IPO stocks?
>>43186049>There's even a team with 0 (Zero) girlsLmao
OLLIE HAS MERCH FOR THIS LOL
>>43186059Fubuki or Matsuri
>>43186059Fubuki, Matsuri, Roboco, Choco
>>43185641That would be the biggest fumble ever in this niche. They had all the cards to conquer and seal the market forever, but they keep going outside their territory. the things that they aren't known for.>>43185654Alright. Thanks for the heads up I know they're experimenting, but is there ever a rrat that they're intentionally doing this just so , because they want to strengthen Japan as their core? some stock shittery or something idk
>>43186024Nigga Anya is there also
>>43186101Right that make exactly THREE JP who would join and Apex tournament
>>43186059Roboco, Choco, Fubuki and Matsuri
>>43186059roboco fbk matsuri
>>43186024Hell Towa had to rearrange her schedule to help Ollie out.
>>43186059Fubuki, Matsuri, Suisei, RBC
>>43186098it's her reward from management for shilling the homos and trying to break the boundaries between Hololive and Holostars
>>43185641That sure works perfectly in nijiEN
>>43186113Can't say I know much about Choco, but it sounds nearly impossible that she'd play on the mixed tourney considering how much of her content caters to gachis.
How much of a debuff does Haachama have to be to have Iroha, a girl who’s pretty much only known for MC and had somehow managed a solo 30k MC just a week or two ago, be sitting at 8k right now
>>43185908Also unironically, play minecraft. Convince the rest of EN to play Minecraft. One of the reason of Hololive's massive incline to popularity is thanks to their Minecraft moments. Hell, ID's surge of popularity is because of HEY MOONA. >>43185970>not a gamerPekora and Subaru doesn't play video games before joinning Hololive and now they have the most entertaining gaming streams in all of livestreaming space. You just need to try.>>43185971>SanaHow can she incline if she doesn't stream?>BaeShe needs to find her direction as an entertainer first. Knowing Hololive, she will find it. Just don't give up and keep interacting with other holomems (not Mori)
>>43186098And all the money goes to Ollie obviously. Leech prime.
>>43186019So Gura and her disciples. Hopefully there are at least 2 more in EN 3.
>>43186179Haachama screams a lot. It filters people.
>>43185906I guess Yakuza franchise has been dying huhRIP
>>43185641Anon mixed gens dont work in cover since youd actually have to make not just a new branch but a new group as well
>>43185641EN3 will beYuriaMioriFallenShadowRisottoRandom male no one has ever heard of
>>43186167https://youtu.be/77GUoZvOTmE
>>43186167Choco? The woman that talks about her dates? Gachikoi is not the same as unicorn
>>43186049You shits keep making of ollie but this is legit her dream event she wanted to put on since debut. You got the teams so she not mixing unicorn girls with males so could you guys be a litttle bit more supportive to my oshi. She may not seem like it but she probably one of the holos that care the most about her fanbase to even a parasocial amount so please be supportive to my zombie wife.
>>43186179She's boring and loud. Her jokes feel really forced
>>43185906Why the fuck is this a thing at all?
>>43186227>Rissotohighly unlikely especially when anycolor would fuck you sideways the moment you make them lose money
>>43186203gura really dislikes mumei nowadays and avoids mentioning her. something happened between them behind the scenes sometime late last year
>>43186019SNO are twitchchuuba-lite. They don't understand what being a Holo entails. They don't have ambition, they don't strive, they don't form connections. They just coast and make excuses for being busy with non-Holo shit.
>>43186231Nah, fuck this
>>43186231>You shits keep making fun of ollie but this is legit her dream event she wanted to put on since debutThat in itself warrants making fun of her.
>>43186167>Can't say I know much about ChocoYou're right about that
>>43186184>MinecraftLike fuck, the management literally gave them the easiest way to incline by giving them an entirely new server to interact with some of the most popular vtubers in the existence. Build your own project, make your dent to the server, and at some point, organic interaction will happen and have some fucking fun.
>>43186231What a worthless dream
>>43186231Nice tumblr post retard
>>43186231Oh shut the fuck up nigga. I have no reason to support Ollie, she is no better than random Twitch whore to me since at least some of them don’t play Apex
>>43186275No nigga it's just that they all barely got to talk to each other with Gura being on her health break. She even said she didn't talk to Fauna much
>>43186231Ollie is shit and her dream of changing idol culture is shit. Sooner that tournament is over and her leeching ass goes back to irrelevancy, the better.
>>43186184Bae literally can’t focus on gaming and entertaining at the same time. Look at her MC streams. It works with persona cause it’s a fucking turn based rpg
https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/kureijiollie_kureijiarcade
>>43186227>RisottoPlease no, Mumei will have to go into hiding. I could see his wife try auditioning, but only if she's in the mood for a change of environment, since she's already very successful.
>>43186280Fauna feels like the lets play youtubers from like 10 years ago but in vtuber form.Gura feels like budget JP.Mumei feels like she just doesn't give a shit and is only in for the money.
>>43185929Unironically she can save herself whenever she wants to you all must be actually retarded to think fucking haachama dosent have the power to revitalize her carrier she just dosent want to she is focusing more on her college
is azki shadowbanned? i cant see her stream on my main page or even subscriptions that are live loll
>>43186275nah that just them not talking due to gura's health breakthis isnt nijisanji anon where a lot of livers dislike/distrust their co-workers especially after that kuzuha tweet
>>43186101>Fubuki>>43186113>Fubuki, Roboco, Choco>>43186135>Roboco, Choco, Fubuki>>43186136>roboco fbk>>43186144>Fubuki, RBCWhat went wrong then?
>>43186231I've disliked Ollie since predebut.
>>43185671The majority likes shallow cute and funny memes. They watch more clips than streams and only remember debut era traits and relationships like SameAme and TakaMori. And that's fine. You can't expect everyone to be hardcore fans, and the point of HoloBox is to have something for everyone. As long as they don't disrupt our enjoyment, they are welcome to drop by whenever.What really matters is how many real fans Bae has and how well she retains them. Kiara may seem to lag behind other Myths in numbers, but she has a lot of hardcore fans, at least when measured by superchats. Bae is kind of similar, except brats aren't as loud about it. Again, that's fine because the KFP way also attracts schizos and antis.I think Bae is doing especially well on retention. I don't have statistics, but while some people don't even try Bae, I rarely hear about people dropping Bae. Once you get to know how genuine she is, it's hard not to root for her. Ironically, this is what idolfagging is really about, not whatever deranged unicorns think.
>>43186391>What went wrong then?good question actually
>>43186332It's kinda boring merch. You can hide your powerlevel with the shirt, I guess
>>43186302Even Watame playing alone during dead EU hours get 15k easily
>>43186332Is this her 1m sub wish? I remember seeing some anon mention it before.
>>43186332how many cocks did she suck to get this?
>>43186391really makes you think, right?
>>43186332This is literally a "I'm going to a live" merch what the fuck
>>43186391>What went wrong then?ollie
>>43185410>>43185671reddit posts.
>>43186391>What went wrong then?your birth
>>43186335contrary to popular belief mumei has no problem with males. she's just terrified of her fanbase much like fauna
WELL; thread is slow enough, it might be kenja time while people wait for Lamy lewds (no slipping?) and as people are talking about EN anyway, maybe it's a good time to post the "usual tables", starting with** MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, KAIGAI, FEBRUARY FIRST FIFTEEN DAYS **>Three (3) or more streams to be at this tableSome remarks (with regards to the median table unless mentioned otherwise)1) Without Gura and with a debuffed Ina the EN market was left without their heaviest hitters. Kobo took #1 at both tables, boosted by her new outfit and eventful streams that followed granting her a 10k+ median2) Mumei and Fauna complete the top 3 3) Ina and Mori complete the top 5, followed by IRyS and Kronii as the only channels with a 6k+ median this month so far4) Mysta is the highest ranked NijiEN, with a 5.9k median, Luca and Vox are the next in line, and the only 3 NijiEN with a 5k+ median 5) The "Kiara Line" held strong, pinning not only all of NijiEN below it but also all of the Holo boys too6) In a month so far peppered with collabs, Magni is the highest ranked Holostars EN with a 3.8k median, the only StarsEN ahead of the 3k mark. Gavin and Vesper follow, as the only other two above 2k.7) Enna and Pomu are the highest ranked NjiEN girls, alternating positions between the median and the average table. Selen follows, and they're the only three NijiEN girls above a 3k median8) Iofi is the lowest ranked Holo girl, with a 1.2k median. She still outranks Mika (sub 1k) and Kotoka, Scarle and Aia (the later two also on three digits)9) Pippa continues outperforming her company and is very close to a 2k median right now. Tenma was added to the trackers and sits at a a 709 median, almost catching the lowest ranked NijiEN (Aster)and the punchline10) Two of the new Stars (Flayon and Shinri) are joining the infamous 3 views club, with an average closer to 900 Axel is quickly approaching, but maintains a good distance from the line with a 1.1k average
>>43186363This anon gets it.
>>43186231>this is legit her dream event she wanted to put on since debutThat's the problem
>43185410>43185671>43186391To be honest, you need to have a pretty high IQ to understand Hakos Baelz.
>>43186391>>43186415Too close to valentine's day. They may collab with males but they have sense. They know how their bread is buttered.
>>43186391Just because they don't mind star collabs, it doesn't mean they want to do them
>nooooo you can't just blame bae for being condensed numbers poisonI can and I will
>>43186454He took them straight out of /rrat/ actually
>>43186231>my oshilmao
>>43186391Imagine how many girls they would be able to gather if the host was any of the First Army
so why are >we blogposting about the rat today?
>>43186407Your blogposts are making me anti bae tho, is that your plan?
>>43186464>le invisible gun to their head
>>43186502/rraddit/
>>43186467>Nijien females still below the kiara line
>merch>orisongDid she really waste her 1 million wish on a fucking APEX TOURNAMENT?
>>43186464No? She's just much more interested in hanging out with girls. It's part of why she joined hololive, after all.
>>43186407You sitting in here and sperging about how Bae's a heckin good girl is making me want to anti her ngl.
So just to make this look even more embarrassing, should we compare this to KING Kuzuha PUBG cup?
>>43186519>first army>apex>inviting homos
>>43186525>>43186565oh its that easy? i should blogpost about holos a lot more
>>43186467>Mumei>FaunaBless their souls. Glad Gura is back, but those two carried EN hard these past few months
>>43186549Orisong?
>>43186464>she's just terrified of her fanbase much like faunakek This meme again
>>43186614
is anyone besides Ollie promoting this tournament? Fauna didn't include it in her schedule
>>43186629The classic sister, Troon redditbeggar cope. Instantly self identifies.
>>43186565>>43186525Anon it's literally someone taking posts out of a split, you know, what's usually a circlejerk. Don't think too much on it, he probably doesn't even like Bae and is purposely doing it to piss people off
>>43186585>Comparing en to jpYour point automatically becomes invalid the moment you had that thought
>>43185671>Bae doesn't really get much attention compared to other Council members for some reasonBae literally had Yagoo and several other JP members in her streams just some days ago. What's the last time some other Council had Yagoo himself in their stream?
>>43186464Is it really that hard for you people to understand that many women dont want to work with men?
>>43186661Fauna has talked about it. I'm not sure if she ever said why she didn't put it on her schedule, but she has mentioned it a couple times now on stream.
>>43186467>no niji in the top 10 averagejesus that branch is a sinking ship, no wonder anycolor didnt want to waste their money on a concert that probably would have had made them lose money, add the fact that their branch is a drama machine might have made the cancellation a lot easier.
>>43186661I know at least even one of the males didn't, so probably no.
>>43186592I was talking about the girls side
>>43186656Is this for the holo27? She was always part of "Zombie"
>>43185929hack into youtube and uncull them
>>43186661I don't have the hateboner for Ollie that a lot of people seem to, so I'll find it a little sad if this ends up not really being all that memorable or big a deal given all this. She's handled setting it up like a retard tho.
Speaking of Yakuza, Koyori will be promoting it with Ichika, Haneru & Patra from 774 inc.https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1624362616050139137
kobo looks like an ayy
https://twitter.com/rin7914/status/1626204172482940929
>>43186716it still wouldn't have made much difference
>>43186739SEX
>>43186692Homobeggar only have that logic left cause it’s one that cannot be proven by both side since you have to monitor their personal life to know for sure if it’s wrong
>>43186716>first army>apex
>Bae and Fauna bad>Kiara and Mori goodWhos this retard Mythfag whos been trying to astroturf the past few days? It's really obvious
>>43186467where is the entire vtuber list? come on anon...
>>43186391Getting Haato-chan, Lui, and Nene to join the mixed part would have been a massive boon to the Hololive integration project. I don't remember Mel ever collabing with a star but she has been in collabs with males, but not recently. Who'd Ollie need to make a mixed collab with to really integrate? Like be the rumble that causes the avalanche that changes hololive? Pekora/Marine/Miko?
>>43186727No, for holo27 she's doing a cover, this is a new song made for the tournament
>>43186697>but she has mentioned it a couple times now on stream.kek, with one of her mentions being>I don't even know how it's going to be
>>43186760>Aqua>Suisei>Towa
>Lamy unironically mains Sana>Botan playing Sana for stage 2 hardWhat is gen 5’s fascination with her?
I don't think Reine took the hippocratic oath
>>43186760I remember Pekora suddenly said she is interested in FPS again coincidentally after Ollie announce her tournamentThis thread was literally creaming themselves at the prospect of Pekora hosting an Apex tournament and mog Ollie’s
Wife is getting 5k points in Australia!
What the next big game that's gonna grab the EN chuubas by the balls?It's clear Potter ain't it
>>43186765i fucking hate mythtards they think their oshis are any better
>>43186793>first army>Aqua>Towa
>>43186777>Haato-chanNobody ever called her that. >Who'd Ollie need to make a mixed collab with to really integrate?David Blaine or other high profile magician and illusionist
>>43186788Ok. Similar art style. Hopefully it's not a 1m wish and she is just using the tournament to help promote it
>>43186806She's easy and good for clearing stage, you're reading way too much into this.
I thought EN collabs being number poison was a meme?
>>43186765Not your hugbox shitling.
>>43186806Sana is BIG
>>43186837>Nobody ever called her that.Matsuri does.
>>43186815Atomic Heart
>>43186792They like looking at browns
>>43186467Faumei = the greatest pair in EN vtubingAlso, there's a dangerous chance of Gura concluding the month with less than 5 streams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDeCkOfFYPY>20min>usually already hit 15k>still 8kno fucking way you cant say EN is number poison
Occasional reminder that Mr. Koro > everybody else
>>43186849Go back
>>43186806She's one of the easiest girls to use but probably the most boring one also.
The EN really poisoned Azki's numbers huh
>>43186844>MemeI think Marine Kiara offcollab was only on par with MariFlare Cuphead lol
>>43186806Kay's game design of Sana the character is more compelling then her whole career.
>>43186760yeah imagine thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSnEueQttKg&t=0s
>>43186871It should've clued you in when Gura made viewers leave in droves during the police stream
>>43186876After you.
>>43186815Gura want to play Atomic Heart
>>43186871When will they learn?
Ollie just a typical twitch streamer but worse
>>43186808Neither did II swapped to biomedical engineering in my third year
>>43186467Kaela with a significantly higher median than Kiara despite having nearly triple the number of streams.
>>43186871Australia map debuff.
>>43186903Don’t dump it on Gura, it happened right after Baelz hop on. And it bleed in a constant rate since that moment, indicating that it wasn’t just people leaving after their oshi part is done
>AZKi Geoguesser underperforming.>The reason.Guess being a Homostar lover only gets you this far.
>>43186921Never. They like the EN ID girls
>>43186833Aqua is first army newfag
>>43186871>Subaru stream reclined when EN showed upuhh who was arguing?
>>43186231what a shallow and worthless dream, no wonder ollie were down there the whole time
>>43186777don't you have another misleading clip to make oboretei
PekoMari > Micomet
Now that I think about it, Ollie is exactly the embodiment of Homobeggar and Youtube comments in human form
>>43186871Azki alone even with heavy overlap can still hit 15k easy
>>43186949Yeah, the collab would get so much more numbers if it was Fauna instead amirite kek?
>>43186730She's doing everything to make this tournament the biggest floop ever, for no particular reason
>>43186903Clearly it was because of bae as evidenced from this collab?
>>43186959Yeah, in 2020
>>43186788That fucking retard should have revealed this during the initial announcement. Someone like me still wouldn't have watched it, but it certainly would have helped create a little bit more hype.
>>43186976PekoMari = Micomet > PekoMiko > NoeMari > MariFure > NoeFure
>>43186968They usually hurt themselves in their baiting when no one responds. It' fun to watch.
>>43187017>MicometTrash.
>>43186910>>43186861Aren't people calling for a boycott for that game ala HL?
>>43186989if fauna could speak Japanese, it would certainly
>>43185417made in china
>>43186806Sana had the biggest tits in all of Hololive, not only that , she was also chocolate. Losing her was a lost niche in Hololive. Unfortunate really.
>>43186976Can you guys stop making fun of Ollie, I mean she is still young and learned about Hololive meme from YouTube and facebook. There's a room for her to learn, at tgis point you guys just have pure malicious instead of actual criticism
>>43186690Her numbers certainly don't reflect that.
>>43186730Her fault. If she just made the tournament holo girls only, she would've gotten most of the girls to join in and maybe have a real tournamentInstead, she tried to promote homos
Bae's obnoxious voice next to Azki's soothing one sucks
Is /#/ so bored that everyone just decides to be disingenuous and argue about retarded shit at the exact same time or are we just getting raided by discord to distract from a soon to be 16-0 record for holo vs niji
>>43187020huh???
>>43186989Unironically yes, partly because they will be guessing JP locations in that case
>>43186981funny because i wanted to find a clip where she said she wanted to change hololive ways, but i found a clip of her doing vshojo x holoen begging, lmao.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leC2IyytnOw
>>43185641there's a limit to retardedness.
>>43186989Fauna just does her own thing. She isn't interested in many JPs. She's not like bae who wants to connect with the JPs or Mumei who watches all holos for like 10 hours a day.
>>43187049Delusional
Today I learn anew thing. Nijisanji only paid for their liver first new outfit. How about Cover?
>>43187045The boycott only make the game stronger, because Jewlesky and his cuckraine bots can't do jackshit.
i keep thinking half life when i see HL
>>43186833They are
>>43187063It has been TWO years, she gets no more leeway after all the nonsense she's pulled.
Miko lost most from slot change.Botan overtook Shion Haachama still dead last.
>>43186903They started dropping when Bae appeared funnily enough.
mythfags in full force tonight
Guess 5ch's reaction to Bae was on the money, she must have really hurt her JOP mindshare.
>>43186145>RratMaybe the reason ollie make this shitty tournament is because management push her for it
>>43187008>first army (2020 ver.)I miss the old days when doggo still considered first army......
>>43186206>4th fes so far awaygirl you are supposed to train months prior to it, not 1 week
>>43187120Bro she only let herself get fingered on stream and tried to trick the girls into collabing with Stars, can't you look past those minor mistakes?
>>43186467And here is the ** MEDIAN OF PEAKS, GLOBAL, FEBRUARY FIRST FIFTEEN DAYS, TOP 50 **1) Marine leads the month so far with a massive 42k+ median, in a month so far full of special streams and eventful ones2) Toya and Pekora complete the Top 3, both with a 30k+ median.3) Miko, Kuzuha complete the top 5, followed by Gaku completing the 20k+ club4) Shion, Yashiro, AZKi and Mito complete the top 105) The top 50 has 25 Hololive channels (3 EN, 1 ID), 18 Nijisanji channels (0 EN), 4 VSPO and Gatchman, NeruMero and Shigure UI representing Indies6) 32 channels are above a 10k median7) Iroha is the highest ranked HoloX in a very strong month for her8) Lauren is recovering from his 2022 woes and getting close to a 10k median9) Along with Met, Ema, Nose and Hinano are also having a strong month so farand the punchline10) Salome ... she reclined all the way into the sub 9k region, trailing THIRTEEN (13) other Niji channels.Will she find her footing or continue reclining? What can be done differently to break that fall?What could have been done differently in the past?
>>43187105Almost exactly the opposite with Cover. They always pay for new outfits, and only under extraordinary circumstances do they allow talents to commission their own.
>>43187153Council member in a collab making numbers drop so they get shit on, suddenly called mythfags?
>>43187063she really has to prove it then. Trying to appeal to western ecelebs is a death sentence for your branch. Thank god Moona picked up her fuckup and restore the Holoid brand.
>>43186231Ollies dream back after her debut was organizing a big Minecraft event with everyone. "The whole Holofamily" and not just something with 15 Holostars and only like 5 girls.https://youtu.be/iMEh9W8n2Oo?t=4227>Yeah I wanna make like a Hololive bed wars but I'm still organizing and still thinking about how it should go because uh I want every Hololive member to be in ithttps://youtu.be/iMEh9W8n2Oo?t=4513>Like if possible I'd like to invite Holostars too into bed wars you know like the whole Holofamily playing bed wars like how chaotic would that be? It'd be really funObviously this will never happen though.
>>43186425>Even WatameIt's not like Watame is a shitter. She's mid/high-mid tier.
>>43187135Gura has absolutely no pull of her own is what you sound likeBiggest vtuber in the world btw
>>43187156I think the JP collabs actually hurt her. The JOPs realized that she just isn't entertaining and completely dropped her.
>>431869812 years late.
>>43187179SISTERS
Your en3 members will beAdrianah lee, kiarakitty, neekolul, adept, justaminx
jp7 needs dark haired chuubas
Pekora would join in and collab with her brother Roberu
>>43187135cope more mythtards gura is a number poison it should incline because shes the number 1 vtuber with 4m subs amirite?
>>43187208>neekolulfaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttt
>>43187105"Official" outfits are covered by Cover. Personals are funded by the talents. It's unclear which outfits are official, though (like, the ones revealed in waves are like official, but those that dropped randomly like Lamy's just now? Probably not?).
>>43186661Anya? she stream apex once and idk anymore. I'm happy that it's almost like the participant trying to make this tournament undetected and maybe just memoryhole this after it's over
>>43187197That’s why being fluent in JP is almost always a debuff. JOPs only like it when they can’t understand them and it’s just cute noises, the same goes for EOPs who just like cute Japanese girl noises.
can you fags shut up now
>>43187179>Kobo is ahead of every single ENEN ?
>>43187204They cute, and so is the indie one. Has the latest Asagi sister followed the rest of them yet?
hi enna, you should tone down your salt intake, these levels can't be good for you
AzkiBae 10K getto
>>43187105thats not trueif you are one of the big hitters then you get free outfits from niji
>>43187253I know that in EN, 10K is enough to celebrate, but this is fucking dogshit for AZkI geoguesser
>>43187231>brotherHuh?
>>43187179Met in the top 15 woohoo this counts the Zs doesn't it
>>43186464Mumei might be terrified of her fanbase (idk) but Fauna? Fauna is calculated and cunning. She knows what she is doing.
>>43187197All Rrat really has going for her as a streamer is enthusiasm.
AZKi the Australian ZeroGuessr!
0m in Australia my wife
>>43187265gawk gawk gawk gawk gawk
>>43187253she could get 20k solo
>>43187274It’s always funny how they keep throwing outfits at kuzuha and he only uses them once and then goes back to his default
Unicornsisters like Ollie right?
>>43187179>Fauna took back her place among HoloEN and Irys is out of top 50This is a good month
>>43186661When Mumei had her Valentine's Day karaoke she talked about all the collab streams she had planned for this week. She didn't mention the Apex tournament at all. She just mentioned Geoguessr with iofi and a collab with Haachama on Saturday.
>>43187105If cover did the same then all holoID dont have this much outfit anonNow you mention it, only mika has a new outfit, her genmate didnt
>>43187233>It's another round of let's pretend Pekora didn't start right streaming as Gura appeared! Please kill yourself you retarded shitposter. It's fine to say en reclined and that the newer JP viewers don't care so much about the other branches of Hololive, it's another to ignore obvious factors that can affect numbers.
>>43187105isnt cover autistic with their IP so that everythign about it is only through them? also the "smoll" korone thing is apparently out of korone's pocket, and their autistic when she can use it as well.
>>43187179>AZKi is at #9I kneel, GeoGuessr
>>43187121PekoMiko Minecraft number have been very interesting to watch. Peko initially lost to Miko but her number keep ramping up and now the gap between them is the same as before, with Pekora on top and Miko stay where she is
>>43187008that pic is from 2022 retard
>>43187322mumei should collab more with higher tier holos to leech. i get that she's just a big holo fan and loves everyone but for her numbers sake she needs to stop bothering with the lower tiers
>>43186661IRyS talked about it once when someone in chat asked her IIRC. Wouldn't call it promoting, though
>>43187242Almost none have been "personal." Korone's dog form and Pekora's prisoner outfit are the only ones I can think of, on the top of my head. This one from Lamy is part of gen 5's latest "wave" as you put it, they're just not waiting for everyone's to be done before the rest can reveal theirs.
>>43187290We used to meme about Roberu being Pekora’s brother for whatever reason
>>43187341I mean, korone herself agreed with it though, and it makes sense given how Cover handles new outfits. It's also why Myth doesn't spam their smol versions either, even though they got more leeway with them due to having their 3d delayed for 2 fucking years.
>>43187292It’s not possible to automatically remove it so, yeah… that’s why it didn’t get a honorable mention.Let’s see the average chart, how she performs
AZKi GeoGuessr peaks>1st stream14,898>2nd stream18,556>3rd stream24,340>4th stream24,817>5th stream22,237>6th stream17,855
i've been in here too much, i'm recognizing too many of you faggots
>>43186792And the other mention being>I accepted not knowing the time it was startingAnd she clearly regrets accepting it
>>43186214>>43186268Yakuza having auditions for hostesses goes back like a decade
>>43187404She was inclining but . . .
>>43187156I honestly dont understand why cover hired her but then again we are talking about EN management who is shit. They also hired Sana and a boring streamer like Ina instead of Selen and Rosemi.
>>43187294Mumei definitely isn't. She's been very clear, both in public and in members, that she loves hololive for the girls she gets to work with.
Bae is just too genuine for the HoloEn audience. The faker you are, the better.
>>43187434Kill yourself, nijikek.
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>>43187287So what's the reason for JPs not to be tuning in? Because they're not guessing Japan? They're not speaking EN, and AZKi seems to be almost as good outside the country. Don't tell me it's because Bae's loud or something, she isn't acting crazy right now and anyway there are popular JPs just as loud as her.
Bae debuff is real
>>43187404en debuff is real
>>43187480>Because they're not guessing Japanbingo
>>43187480d) All the above
>>43187404So this is gonna be the lowest right?
>>43187156>Guess 5ch's reaction to Bae was on the moneyWhich was...?
>>43187480>Not guessing JapanThat’s actually it. JPs can’t connect, and Aussies don’t exist.
Fauna doesn't care about the JPs but that just means she won't be able to be number poison to them which is a net positive compared to Bae
>>43187455Then why is Mumei popular? When she tried to pretend she wasn't an autist and took meds, her numbers dropped and only recovered after she stopped faking being normal
Why is Bae sabotaging AZKis median? Is she jealous?
>>43187316because kuzuha is smarthim using a new outfit as his default will kill his image if he does go back to being an indie
>>43187453Of course she says that because her audience has an invisible gun to her head.
>>43187480Yes, it's actually the JP buffMumei's geoguesser collab stream needed for them to go to Japan in order to reach 10k
>>43187525If all you care about is number and not entertainment.
Rosemi, Pomu and Selen would all be a much better fit for holo than ina, bae and sana.
>>43185671>HoloEN's audience values Western meme proficiency and humor the most, over hard workYou are naive. Any human normally values results over non-results. It does not matter if you are hardworking or not beyond the scenes. Just deliver results. In this case, deliver entertainment.Of course many will appreciate hardwork. Many see its appeal. It is also a form of entertainment. But it will only become appealing if you get some attachment into the persona. And Bae's voice and personality filter viewers so hard, that the repulsion outweighs her appeal of hardwork.
it's almost like elevens don't care about anything but area eleven. but naw, that can't be it.
>>43187480>Because they're not guessing JapanFinally, someone got it. Nobody wants to fucking explore fucking Kangaroo Land
>>43187434>Selen and RosemiSelen, Rosemi and Pomu in Holo would still give them numbers below the sana line anonTheres a reason why theyre not in hololive and thats because theyre not entertaining enough
>>43187179Shion First Army.
>>43187480Nips are racist and xenophobic.
>>43187540Remind me of how this thread used to be obsessed with how Pekora always use her default outfit
>>43187525Bae only buffing stars
>>43187545>invisible gun to her headYou jest, but plenty of people honestly believe this. It's absurd.
>Nijinnigers start madling again >start holo vs holo againIs there is another yabe today?
>>43185671Bae doesn't really have any "thing" to call her own.> Gura : Meme queen, stealth lewd jokes, generally funny, actual siren when singing> Mori : Rap/Music in general> Ina : Chill vibes, artist> Kiara : Loud, Obnoxious, German to the core, resulting in a small dedicated fanbase> Kronii : Doomer gf, "deep voice sexxx" etc.> Mumei : Schizo/autistic gf, decent singer> Irys : anime, not so stealth lewd jokes, gf next door> Fauna : Mommy issues gf, good at minecraft, decent sense of humorWhat does Bae have that's exclusively HERS?
>>43187556Are you lost friend?
>>43187573Complete bullshit but okay.
>>43187525On some minecraft stream Fauna said she is watching Mio and Botan
>AZKi channel>can't break 11kBae is a debuff then? she should start doing the uwu shit Kiwawa does
>>43187179>Salome ... she reclined all the way into the sub 9k region, trailing THIRTEEN (13) other Niji channels.Reminder that nijifags said that Salome being a 10k liver is much better than being a 30-40k one since its what Anycolor wants.
>rosemilollmao even
>>43185871Is your oshi the kiryu guy?
>>43187534>tempus agent
>>43187573Retard. They would absolutely get bg numbers. What is the reason they are not in hololive? Nepotism hires and retarded management. They dont know shit about entertainment. Don't make me laugh. You are talking about people who thought tempus 2 was a good idea.
nijiniggers your too obvious
>>43187480Everyone saying this are coping, Nene/Kiara did US/Spain, both being much weaker than AZkI/Bae and they got 14K+
>>43187598>australianwell at least for now, and also because sana btfo'd
Is it always like this? This is the most blatant falseflagging I've seen in a while yet
>>43187598Roberu's cock
>>43187598Little sister vibesAussieEnthusiasm BaewatchUnity
>>43187568It doesn't help at all that Bae isn't familiar with her home country. Like at all. If she was even half an Azki it might be fun because she could talk about stuff that comes up. But she's a FOB azn suburb girl who wants to be Japanese. No cousins that live out near Seymour, no brother who did a stint at a sheep station in SA. Nothing interesting.
>>43187591They lost both in EN and JP tally by double wamy
>>43187580>Nips are normal and naturalftfy
I dont like Ollie, and Nijiniggers interrupting our peace again, but i like You anon.
>>43187607>>43187642They are boring shitters anon, them changing companies would still make them boring shitters.
>>43187525Watame, Mio, Botan, Noel, and Lamy aren't JPs now, apparently.
>>43187629i think it's the kson fan that monitors the number thread to defend her whenever she gets brought up. which is weird, why care what anyone ironically or unironically says about your oshi in this thread, anyway.
>>43187646talking about how holo debuffing other holo suddenly get called nijiniggers huh
>>43186467>Kobo took #1 at both tablesINDOCHAD?!?!?!?
>>43187642Thats the thingSelen, Rosemi and Pomu are so shit that even the retards that are tempoop are somehow much more tolerable than them
>>43187598Everything you listed for Fauna is complete trash while Bae is a good hardworking girl who is ignorant to the world but still tries her best. She's also a Collab organizer when no one else wants to be.
>>43187692We are comparing them to Ina, Sana and Bae anon.
>>43187179You are counting pekora's failed stream?
>>43187531He said "fake" but he meant "normie."
as an azkitomo i sincerely hope azki distances herself from bae after this disaster, she's hurting her incline
>>43187615If they playing in Japan map then it's guarantee 20k.
>>43187598Bae is an idol, not a streamer, it makes it really hard for her to connect with the internet audience when she is so heavily disconnected from pop culture. I guess you could say she's like Subaru in the sense that everything she plays/watches is her first time with that thingHer talents on the stage will make her shine harder than any other though
>>43187668Were they also being overlapped by over 100ks worth of ccv in other streams?
>>43187732>azkitomokys
Bae is boring.
>>43187717No they aren't! That is my entire point. Selen, Rosemi and Pomu are much more entertaining than Ina sana and Bae and would do much better in holo than those shitters.
>>43187711>Indochad
>>43187642>What is the reason they are not in hololive?Because the standards for female entertainers in hololive is a lot higher than male ones. I mean sure if those threee applied to homostars they would be accepted by their standards but not hololive.
>>43187668That was an earlier timeslot no?
Very organic posts itt
>>43187629Yes! Yakuza is my favourite game series ever.
11K GETTO
>>43187738>idol holy kek
>>43187179Pekora only have 15 stream though. Are you counting the one with technical issue?
>>43187739Isn't that pretty normal in this timeslot though?
>>43187683I want a Blue and Green paizuri. Shame no one's done fanart of that.
i would like to convert this into usd
>>43186467Hello, Table Anon. Thanks for your hard work. Is there an ID-only version of it? Or should I put the numbers manually again? I don't mind if that's the case. /warkop/ will have a new thread for the next ~20 hours from now. Thank you!
>>43187732>azkitomo
>>43187738>idol
>>43187756Nijiseethe
>>43187755They are anon, theres a reason why the sana line exists and how they had a hard time trying to cross that line.They are unironically boring shitters who would even be more boring in hololive especially with how reliant they are on their current kayfabe to stay relevant in niji.
>>43187723There was a day with technical restarts, right? Usually only streams below or above a certain duration get “flagged” for manual review, how long they lasted?
>>43187784>>43187806>>43187813You will NEVER be an idolfag no matter how hard you fake it
>>43187784Roberu's idol cocksleeve.
>>43187738Correction: she’s not disconnected from Pop Culture, she’s disconnected with 4 Chan culture. She can list off hundreds of anime and K-pop songs at the blink of a hat, but ask her what an image Macro is and she just give you a wide-eyed stare.
>>43187738Too bad the streamer part comes first.
My wife found the middle of nowhere, Australia!
>>43187721Yes and they are more boring than Ina, Sana and Bae.Why do you think they have shitty retention 80% of the time and peak 10-15 minutes into their stream?
>>43187762>Because the standards for female entertainers in hololive is a lot higher than male ones.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAnon for fucks sake, you are trying to defend the impossible here and just end up looking like a complete idiot. You are talking about a branch that has Ina and Bae in it. That had fucking Sana in it. Just stop. It's embarrassing. They have absolutely zero standards on who they hire except if they are friends with Omega.
>>43187738I genuinely can’t make satire for the rea thing anymore. >GRIM?
>>43187836? Why would I want to be that?
>>43187813>>43187806>>43187784More of an idol than the green whore
What’s with this random Ina hate sprinkled in?
nijidogs starting holo vs holo againyawn time to leave this thread see ya later
>>43187854see>>43187847Anon Ina Sana and Bae are shitters but nijien females are way below them on the entertainment scaleWhy the hell did you think that Nijien was irrelevant before Luxiem came? Most of the girls are boring shitters who couldnt carry the branch on their own
>>43187799> Is there an ID-only version of it? Yes, using the list that was provided. I will post it at the end of the series
>>43187886Whataboutism.
This is one of the most blatant holo vs holo attempts yetThe cord is here
Wolf Girl with You = Miosha? or do i need to get my ear checked
>>43187738If she's an idol, then why did she keep doing the thing that an idol fan would dislike?
>>43187711>Kobo's median without the kimono reveal is 8662What a useless shitter
>>43187847The most boring ENs are Mumei, Ina and Kronii.Kronii makes up for it with sex voice.Mumei and Ina make up for it by being cute.
>>43187875No sane person would ever call Fauna an idol.
>>43187598saying bruh like a retard
>>43187847add mumei,kronii and fauna into that
>>43187676>Little sister vibesHow much is the venn diagram overlap with the people who watch chuubas and people who have a zoomer little sister?>Aussie>EnthusiasmThere are chuubas that do this much better than her>BaewatchNot really sure what this is, I guess it's a planned stream or smth?>Unityuhhhunityfags just watch Nijisanji...and it's not like she does THAT many collabs with the stars either.
>>43187816You are comparing their performance in niji. It would be completely different if they were in holo. You think sana would have the same numbers if she were in niji? Hell no. None of the girls even gura wouldnt have the same numebrs. They would all be shitters in niji. Your sana line is a cope. Cause in holo most niji girls would destroy it.
can we make fun of ollie again
>>43187933What would you know about idol fans?
This Bae shiller is quite funny, unfortunately you can't win any argument in /#/ if your oshi has a 4k average
YAB Azki is viewing the place Japan bombed the shit out of in WW2
>>43187886They're just throwing everything at the wall, hoping that at least one bait sticks. Soon they'll loop back to Gura, and repeat anew. Their allotted hour of internet will soon expire anyway.
>>43187847See >>43187953
Is it possible that Geoguesser has lost its FOTM magic after the 7th stream in a row?
>>43187968Nijinogs shouldn't try to throw stones from a glass house
Bae cripple gold again.
>>43187711Winning like always
>>43187918Nice. Thank you very much, Table Anon!
>>43187847All 3 of those are less boring than Mumei anon.
>>43187847No they aren't lmao stop coping faggot.Bet you have never even watched them yet talk shit cause your a motherfucker.
>>43187953They are perfoming in niji because they werent good enough for holo anon and it shows on how their graphs bleed like hell early on.Shit like that isnt because of a company its because you are unentertaining to your audience and they are tuning out.
>>43187738She's in HoloEN and by definition anyone in HoloEN are not idols.
>>43187964Oh sure let the idol from a group famous for their female idols interact all they want with males, that'd be a success strategy
>>43188010>AZKi Channel
>>43187847Fauna is literally the most boring piece of shit but she has the Hololive label and no accent so she gets a pass
>>43188011bro... that's thw polish flag
>>43188011>FB_IMGKys seanignog
>>43187738>Her talents on the stage will make her shine harder than any other thoughFor about 1 to 2 weeks.
>>43188051>Saying this when Suisei, one of their biggest and most successful idols existsActual retard
Azki being better at navigation in a fucking Australia than Bea is extremely hilarious.
i remain unimpressed with this amount of seething.You're gonna have to try harder
>>43188028It's a well-documented fact that most NijiENs peak early in their streams, stuff like karaoke and tourneys excluded.
>>43188028I did watch them early one when they debuted and they were basically discount holoen.If they were actually entertaining or good they wouldnt have had to rely on luxiem for relevance.
>Tries bae >doesn't work>tries sana>doesn't work>tries kronii>doesn't work>tries ina>doesn't work>goes back to the old faithful mumei and fauna>still doesn't workyou need to bring out the gura card now anontop fucking kek
My wife is so good!
>>43188070At leasy say it's Monaco retard
>>43187755>Be in /#/>Make a claim>Show no proof to backup claim
>>43188028I like how the nijidog tries to shit on holos but absolutely starts screeching when facts are laid bare in his face
>>43187559>>43187434Sana was entertaining. Her problems were poor content choices, not having a drive for the work and being brown.
>>43188028anon nijien streams are notorious for bleeding in 10 to 15 minutes in their stream most of the time in graphsif they were actually good or entertaining people would not be tuning out that early in the first place
Please yagoo save versen sheep and put her in en3
>>43188046>they werent good enough for holo anonwdym? we already established that management is absolute shit. they are retards who dont know what they are doing most of the time. this is not an argument in your favour. hololive en management has no fucking idea who to hire thats why they hire friends of firends. how many times do i have to repeat this? the reason holo didnt hire pomu selen and rosemi is because of nepotism. not because they arent entertaining. ina wasnt even a streamer before holo and she is super boring. stop coping about "muh sana bae ina so entertaining omg" you stupid faggot. They aren't. And clearly if you watched rosemi pomu and selen you would know that they would be mucher better fit for holo than what we got.
>>43187525Watame is going to fuck Fauna in a maid cafe.
how many chuubas have gotten over the brown debuff?
>>43187738>muh idoruSo the same reason Sora is one of the company's biggest shitters? I guess JOPs also hate hard work and idols. It can't be the lack of entertainment value
I don't want to pick a side about Baelz being an idol or not. It is because I am confused about what idol means. I got too many definitions, many of which are contradictory.Just what does an idol mean? Just performing for the fans? Does it include beyond-the-scenes effort? Does it mean doing the best to achieve a certain goal?
>>43188129accent was a turn off as well.
it's always funny how the premiers that get good numbers go fucking nowhere in the streams.
>>43188028You dont even have to watch their streams to know that they are boring shitters though since even their own audience leaves early on in the streams.
>>43186179anon we're in overlap hell, and there's waaay too many other interesting streams going on
Only reason Bae made it into holo was her JapaneseThat's it
>>43187948You don’t need a little sister to appreciate a little sister. In fact, that makes it even more potent.And by Unity I mean actually being friends with JPs and ID holos. Kiara sort of does this, but only Nene seems to stand her these days. However everyone wants to hang out with Bae.Baewatch is where she puts her VA skills to work, unlike Ouro.
>>43188086AZKi has good directional skills and experience. Bae is basically a retarded zoomer.
>>43188092>>43188136why do you retard cling onto this bleeding early shit when it;s because they are in niji which caters to a different audience. Were they in holo they would have the same graphs other holos have. How can you not understand this? Are you all low IQ?
>>43188166HoloID are all brown
>>43188171Who the fuck is Baelz?
>>43188154In this case management made the right call though. Hell even their own nijisanji audience finds them boring most of the time which is why their graphs peak early and then bleed.Its a telling sign if a lot of your audience only stays for 10-15 minutes in your stream most of the time.
>>43188166if we're talking holos than korone and maybe mumei depending on whether you're comparing with all of hololive or EN only
Migo joining VC KoroShion
>Seething about 2 redhead shittersRoru rumao
>Some are trying to spin the narrative that being a good performer serves as justification for being a bad streamerIt doesn't. The Pride of Hololive is an excellent entertainer while also being the #1 virtual idol.
>>43188171Someone who's serious about doing their dancing reps in order to put a good performance on stage is the classic definition of an idolNowadays the definition has been stretched quite a bit
>>43188212Suck my Baelz
I think it's genuinely retarded
>>43188079Oh and surely bae also have all the other talents that suisei have? Hell give any other example other than suisei, she's an outlier at this point.
>>43188129No she wasnt. Selen Pomu and Rosemi are all way more entertaining than she was stop kidding yourself lol.
I'm going to post a single Shion
>>43188197>but only Nene seems to stand her these days.anon?
>>43187916They’re still more entertaining than their male counterparts. Although the males in NijiEN are about as entertaining as a bag of sawdust dumped into your eyes.
>>43188195No, she was nepo hired by Ollie
>>43188201They are bleeding shit early because they are neither interesting nor entertaining. Its not a matter of corporation they would have the same shitty graph in holo.
>>43188225Using Suisei as a comparison is unfair.
I just met a dude on OSRS named same-chan. I called him a delusional chumkek and he responded by saying "annoying rabbit" I s2g these cumsharts need to learn their place.
>>43188166Doggo and Owl.
>>43188172>>43188216See >>43188201
>>43188196AZKi clearly dealt with a “map and compass” pre ubiquitous GPS turn by turn navigation world.
>>43188224>>43188171Unrelated reply, just want to mess with you guys
>>43188154Who did they hire through nepotism?
>>43188129>Sana was entertainingKek. Sana was debuff incarnation, that was only saved by having small but dedicated fanbase.Her shit sub grow really showed how bad hire she was.
>>43188289Reimu isn't human?
>>43188079Suisei is purely professional about it. Bae, on the other hand, just can't live in a world where she doesn't collab with dudes every month.
>>43187934>Still comfortably mogging every single EN
>>43188267That's a cope and you know it. If a boring streamer like fucking Ina doesn't bleed than certainly someone actually entertaining like Rosemi wouldn't either.
>>43188225Suisei was a streamer that was a shit singer but improved.Bae is a dancer that is a shit streamer but can and has improved.
I dislike tempiss but objectively bettel is probably the best streamer to come out of holoen.
>>43186231a dream that is going to be forgotten after one week
>>43188311Beast spirit hijacked her body to defeat the accursed artificial idols oppressing them. Because only a real flesh and blood human can defeat mass produced "idols"
matuli...
>>43188282>>43188267>>43188323It doesnt matter what corpo you are in anon. The fact that they cant even try to become entertaining or interesting to their current audience shows the amount of skill they have.Even some of the smaller indie corpos have a better retention than nijien females.
>>43188336>holoenIt's homoen retard
>>43188296Ina and Sana newfag.
>>43188170Fuck it, I can’t deny it. I love girls with Aussie accents. They sound so retarded. It’s cute. Now if only we can get some girls with Scottish accents. Heavy Scottish accents. Because shit dog, that shit makes my heart skip a beat at how adorably stupid they sound.
>>43188336Nice try sister
https://twitter.com/chima_machita23/status/1626207969863139332?s=20another nijisanji special: tweet is about to hit 20k likes, but let's see her peak for the actual reveal.
>>43188336>holoengo back
>>43188373too big
>>43185854it's a shill stream featuring those vtubers
>>43188327>shit streamer but can and has improvedHmm the numbers don't seem to reflect that.
>>43188323if rosemi was entertaining then she would have the early peak chart in the first place
>>43186231>my oshiI'm sorry that happened to you, bro. My condolences.
i thought shion would be a lolibaba but her voice...just ain't it for me
>>43188414*she wouldnt have
>Miko - Reimu>Pekora - Marisa>Marine - Sanae>Suisei - Sakuya>Aqua - Youmu
>>43188447Why is the image quality so shit?
>>43188359Keep coping retard. You would member Rosemi at the first opportunity and gobble up all her streams like a beggar were she in holo. Her graphs would also incline. That is true for Selen and Rosemi as well. Hell even Elira. Bascially most of the girls. You are a delusional coping faggot if you deny the power of the blue dorito mark next to the vtuber. I mean fucking Fauna got 11K with minecraft. You cant tell me you actually think she's more entertaining than Pomu.
>>43187948>>43187598>>43185671Bae is a zoomer and she brings a butch to en sphere. First the bridge that hololive to the stars by knowing about her. Second she has top 3 singing voices in hololive. Third she welcomed irys in when she was left by herself so a naturally born leader. Fourth she a excellent voice actor and one of the top in hololive . Fifth she brings her culture into en by not growing up like the rest of the girls she has unique interactions with them. Sixth she a zoomer and gives a cute kohai vibes as your the senpai. seventh she respects the idol culture and likes several holojp senpais and looks up to them.
>>43188260Nothing more boring or cringe than zoomer dudes. Which seems to be all that Anycolor and Cover recruit into their English branches.
>>43188327Only Fauna has improved as a streamer in EN. The rest have recline as the numbers show.
>>43188461it was like that when I saw it.
>>43187838When I watch Bae in collabs she is usually proclaiming about how she isn't following the conversation, or doesn't get a reference, adding nothing of value. Maybe she knows a lot of music but it doesn't make her taste any good or she would pick better songs to cover.
>>43188388lol has someone on twitter ever questioned it?im surprised no one is talking about it
>>43188459Wrong.>Miko - Marisa>Pekora - Reimu>Marine - Sanae>Suisei - Sakuya>Aqua - Youmu
I watched rosemi a few times, she's just a vanilla streamer like rbc.
>>43188323>>43188465isnt that more of a skill issue on rosemis part when she loses and bleeds viewers compared to ina?kinda seems like for all the hype you are saying a lot of nijisanji fans feel that they are kinda mid and boring and it shows on the graphs.
>pomu>entertainingim sure her tits entertained some people
>>43188465You genuinely have some form of mental illness if you believe any of this shit. Also, Fauna is infinitely more entertaining than /b/omu.
>>43188504>Miko the protagonist of Hololive>Not Reimu>Marisa the normal human born with no special talent like the rest, rising to power through pure skills>Not Pekora
>>43188414if fauna was in niji she would have an early peak chart as well.
>>43188465>You cant tell me you actually think she's more entertaining than Pomu.YesGraphs says that she isThe fact that they cant hold their audience most of the time attention seems like a skill issue on their part and not the blue dorito checkmark anon.
my cute wife
>>43188511Do you have any rum raisin streamers?
>>43188412Towa and Luna was a 3view chuuba after they debuted. Yet they keep persisting and trying out a lot of stuffs until they found their groove. Now Towa is a 5views and Luna is on the path to become a consistent 5 views as well.Iroha was struggling for Hololive standards because she doesn't have a distinctive features when you compare her to the rest of HoloX. And then they debut her 3D and now she sits comfortably in a 10k range as well. Holomems who keeps trying
>>43188556>Miko the protagonist of Hololive
>>431885428.5/10
>>43188465i do.i unironically truly think from the bottom of my anonymous heart, that fauna is a better entertainer than pomu.what makes pomu entertaining for you, doesn't for me.also, using "brue dorito" as an excuse is dumb as fuck.
Not even a zoomer can ruin my wifes geoguessr streak!
>>43188566niji wouldnt accept her in the first place since its not in their best interests.
>>43188028Selen's whole thing is that she has a contagious laugh.Pomu used to be holo-lite in the early days, but now she just streams generic bullshit.Neither of them are interesting from the 2-3 streams I watched.Yes, even less than Sana's fucking Pokemon streams.
>>43188615Disgusting
>>43188502Watch any episode of Chadcast, or any of her other zatsus then because she’s usually leading the conversation on those. Unfortunately, she can’t play games and speak at the same time.
Holy shit the rat hould graduate. She's making AZKi look like a shitter because of her retardation. Now I'm remembering the PekoBae Collab which got her 26k, damn Pekora was already too fucking powerful at the time. Also the leeching only got 34k without any overlap? Mighty kek.
>>43188577Bae doesn't try to improve, though.
behold, the protagonist of hololive
>>43188502CounterpointBaeRyS recent collab, ORK minecraftShe has very good banter with people she is comfortable with
>>43188577>IrohaAnon? She Started so well though until she spam ff14.
>>43188568Faker.
>>43188512I just explained pretty well that it isn't. Why are you ignoring what im saying and repeating the same retarded argument? Are you a bot?
Genuine question: did Bae PL (or even NotBae) ever gave any evidence that she can dance?It’s more likely than not that that anon is shitposting but, well, is there any evidence of her dancing prowess?
Is this the thread where I hone my catalogposting skills?
>>43188568You just posted my cute daughter
>>43188646How can you improve someone who is already perfect?
>>43188659>Washed up dog>Protagonist
>>43187738Anon...Watch Sora's Mocopi stream, or any Sora stream really.Sora collabs with homos all the time, yet she is still considered idol prime. Because she fucking LOVES her fans, and it comes through from every single thing she says and does on every stream.Bae does not have that level of attachment to her fans, and is the farthest fucking thing to an "idol".
>>43188637>She's making AZKi look like a shitterShe's been perfectly capable of that for years without any help.
>>43185410I mean, Kiara had the same strat, look at her now. The runt of HoloEN.
>>43188709She’s Kakashi then, even better.
>>43188703every bait gets bitten no matter how shit, so I'm not sure how effective it would be for training
>>43188697And I just said that its not a company issue since indies and smaller corpos can retain their audience.Its a skill issue on their part
Behold, the antagonist of hololive
>>43188718You positively know nothing about Bae if you think she doesn't love her fans
>>43188555Keep coping faggot You would absoutely shit on fauna if she got into niji and defend Rosemi were she in holo. The fact that you lack self-awareness to see your own hipocrisy shows how low IQ you are.
>>43188708Getting good numbers would be a good start.
>>43188556>He doesn't know 's link with Reimu.
We like Bae in this thread even if she has bad numbers because she's in Hololive.
>>43188747Thats Kronii bro.
>>43188697Even Kawaii, Phase and Idol has better retention most of the time than Nijien females.Its a skill issue.
>>43188720And that's the issue. AZKi finally started crawling out of that hole, and the rrat is dragging her back in
>>43188718>all the timeNo she doesn’t. Neither does Bae btw
>>43188744Biting your own bait and claiming that other anons did it is hardly a win you think it is.
>>43188659Not enough mainstream appeal. She's too niche to be the protag.
>>43188614Doesn't matter. We are talking about hypothetical scenario here to illustrate the point that the company and agency you belong to determines when you peak, not your actual entertainment value.
>>43188792I mean compared to the nijien female shitters yeah.
>>43187838Dude she didn't know what Teen Titans is. I get being disconnected from 4chan or vidya culture but Bae is a little beyond that
>>43188718
>>43188702Yes there isI don't wanna get banned though
>>43188718Do you remember that Yagoo interview with some comedians? I remember hearing that's the first time Sora ever interacted with a homo
>>43188702No.
>>43188798Does any NijiEN talent have good retention though? Seems like a problem for the entire branch and not specifically one group.
>>43188646I'm being completely unironic here. She actually does try to improve. She's trying to include herself and trying to participate in a lot of collab. Trust the process.>>43188664There were some sayings about Iroha when you compare her to the rest of HoloXChloe has her hostess experience, Koyori has her endurance stream, Lui has her connections to the rest of holomems, Laplus has her singing and dancing, while Iroha has nothing.
>>43188028NTA, but I really wanted to give Elira a fair shake when watching her Xenoblade streams, but goddamn, she is so boring.
>>43188795Mori would be a better candidate.
bae was a mistake. genuinely just talentless
>>43187838She's still disconnected from general internet pop culture outside of her immediate interests which is Korean/JP stuff. Many viewers don't relate to Seiyuufagging
>>43188659Too much Ksuoge and Boomer games for protagonist.
>>43188856Your whore needs to be drunk to say that kek.
>>43188835>>43188798Even Pippa has better retention. Its a skill issue on nijien females part they just cant be interesting enough to hold majority of their audiences.
>>43188852Teen Titans wasn't a thing in Australia unless you had foxtel and even then barely.
>>43188830I'm not the one post bait, retard. I've just been in this thread long enough to have seen the patterns. We're literally in the middle of a sperg battle because some shitposter has come in saying xyz chuubas are objectively better than abc.
>>43188702She mentioned it in her debut, but no 3D proof yet
>>43188894Iroha was nit struggling at the start. The one who struggle after debut hype was koyori and lui. Iroha's problem was self debuff
>>43188861Just say one word present in the archived post that is unique enough not to land many results
>>43188567Can you already stop with this stupid cope faggot? >>43188746It is a company issue. Early bleed comes particularly from being in nijisanji and i dont see any indies or other not bleding like you are saying either. Holos don't bleed until the 1 hour mark after they start bleeding too.
>>43188894Hey. She's good at Minecraft.
There is an objective way to prove whether Selen or Pomu would have done well in Holo or not :Both Pomu and Selen collabed with HoloEN members - Kiara, Mumei and Amelia and were exposed to the HoloEN box/fans. So if they were entertaining, surely they would have inclined since those collabs right ?
rosemi should graduate and join VERSEn
>>43188811Yes. AZKis streamer career is now doomed because of this stream. AZKi will never again see over 10K stream again. I bet even 5K will be hard to get, She should graduate at the top right now.
>>43188171>Just what does an idol mean?
>>43188798>skill issue>all nijisyou just contradicted yourself like the retard that you are.
>>43188932Dude she didn't know who ROBIN is. I'm sure they had batman.
>>43188158Based on Watame's description of their hugs it's gonna be Fauna who does the fucking.
>>43188898Still better than Ina.
>>43188894>She actually does try to improveThat's hard to buy.Like sure, maybe from *her* perspective she's doing things that she thinks are efforts to improve.But from where I stand, I have to ask if she's even aware she has problems that need to be addressed. Does she know she's a, let's say, subpar streamer, to put it nicely?
>>43188991>Aqua>Devotion lmao
>>43189005A better comparison would be her not knowing shit about Harry Potter given that was actually a global phenomenon and not an NA cable cartoon.
>>43188930It’s mostly people biting their own baits. I don’t know how that’s considered so controversial. This place gets raided by discord fags a lot.
>>43188960>Early bleed comes particularly from being in nijisanjits rare in jpits just the standards for the en branch were so low that they got shitters instead of entertainers which is why they bleed so bad in en.pippa and phase dont bleed early on its a nijien problem
>>43189034>But from where I standNo one gives a shit where you stand on that issue.
You fags are fucking retarded. Fauna is literally only relevant because of her being lucky enough to get into Holo. All she does is steal jokes constantly and pretends she gives a shit about videogames when her choices are also stolen from someone else
>>43189040she likes the weapon a lot though
>>43188991I want this Onyon back...
>>43188197>and by Unity I mean actually being friends with JPs and ID holos> Baewatch is where she puts her VA skills to work, unlike Ouro.Uhh...These aren't something that Bae can claim "exclusivity" to anon.They are some things that she "does".Not something that she "is".I'll give you the sister part, but I'd also argue that Gura somewhat fills that role a little bit already.
>>43189046And other threads that wanna samefag.
>>43188932What kind of pop culture does Aussie have then?( or did they have 10 years ago?)
Where's the reddit spacing brat? Does your oshi fit the definition of an idol being brought by >>43188991?
>>43189076She tries harder than bae get fucked brat
>>43189058pomu, selen, and rosemi would peak late were they in holo and also are more entertaining than fauna, ina, sana, kiara and bae. You watch them through a rose-tinted glasses which skews your perception.
>>43189076That’s fine. At least she knows what good to steal. Bae couldn’t steal a joke for her life.
>>43189001>nijien only hiring shitters means that they have shitty retention due to most if not all of them being uninteresting and unentertainingits not rocket science
>>43189076Fauna is literally the strongest lamy
>>43189067Very nice argument. It addresses the point I made and doesn't dodge the issue at all.
>>43187396>for whatever reasonWasn't that related to the Ollie-Bae stream where they made random relationship charts at the Holo Expo (or was it Crunchy's)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_hcTmkpuoAID GOLD
Bae is boring and should graduate.t. hoodachi
>>43189076They are watching through rose-tinted glasses which skews their perception. They lack IQ to understand hypotheticall concepts like Rosemi being in holo or fauna being in niji and how it would affect them and their watching experience.
Wife is streaming
>>43189115Why did you ignore this ?>>43188971
>>43189115all 3 would still peak early on anon hell its the reason why they are in nijisanji in the first placethey have little to no standards when it comes to talent selection compared to holo
>>43189120Holo EN hired shitters like Fauna, Ina, Sana and Bae. Your argument is invalid.
nice thread about numbers surprisingly there're no hoomans that took the bait
>>43189033Nah, at least Ina tries to crack some jokes or saying something amusing regularly. Elira was just describing what was happening in the game with some anemic offtopic chat on the side, while staying completely silent during cutscenes.
>>43189140No one gives a shit about your issues. This thread isn't about (you). Go cry to your mom about your issues. We are not your therapists.
>>43189115>He says this when they havent inclined after being exposed to the holo boxTheir form of "entertainment" is incompatible with hololive and is the reason for the early peaks.
>>43185440Fuma...
>>43188697because you're not selling pomu, selen or rosemi that wellyou're not posting clips of them because you know they're not funny and you'll get called out for your retarded humor sense that makes you watch them
>anon thinks sora and bae's love for their fans are anywhere closesora started from fucking zero.nothing.she wouldn't be— hell HOLOLIVE wouldn't be a thing if sora didn't get popular. it's because of her fans and hard worl that she's still here today.Her love for her fans are genuine.now go to bae, who joined the corpo and instantly got 100k subs + High views and CCC during her beginning. all she had to do was fill out an application and wait, and she was given success.she could say"i earned this myself, none of you guys helped me get into hololive"but she isn't dumb enough to do so.here love ain't even close to genuine, she's just trying to keep the 5 paypigs she has left on her leash.>y-you don't know if it's actually genuine loveyeah sure fag you have to be blind to not see.she would drop you for roberu dick at the drop of the hat kek
Very organic thread
Bae is on a stealth mission to collab on every JPs channel and lower their median thereby making EN look slightly better.
>>43189165Maybe because you didnt reply directly faggot?And that argument is retarded becaue they are still i niji. they need to be in holo for holobox to watch them retard. thats how it works.
>>43186231> she probably one of the holos that care the most about her fanbase to even a parasocial amount Wasn't there a yab that she did it on stream
>>43189190They are shitters yes but nijien females are even lower on that scaleYou know bleeding graphs and all that
>>43189149>EN member collab buff>ID channel debuffI wouldn't be so optimistic anon
>>43189161thanks for sharing the numbers, nice to see the doxfag seashitter in the dumpster
>>43186184Pekora played many games on NND retarded newfag. I could literally go find you a Beyond Two Souls VOD but I'll let your retarded ass find it yourself.
Pomu and selen i can agree but what's up with rosemi shill? The girl is super vanilla streamer, she is the rbc/aki of holo, sumire of vspo.
>>43189193Goddamn sexy stoner owl
>>43186467graduate everyone below Fauna and Mumei
>>43189230they were in the holobox during the collab but they never inclined because they are not just that entertainingif they were they would have retained and even had a lot of holo fans jumping to them.
>>43189149Sorry anon, even though I don't mind Yopi, she's numbers acid.
>>43189174>they have little to no standards when it comes to talent selection compared to holoAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA>compared to holo>he says when holo hired sana, ina and baeAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHOLY MOTHER OF COPES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A RETARDED FAGGOT!!!!
>>43189218Go suck a dick for penny in some back alley since you can't stop thinking of cuck fantasies ESL-kunI had a near stroke reading that shit, shame on you
>>43189193mumei cute
>>43189283>>43189235I was just making a joke because this thread is a shitshow...
>>43189149Nah. Kaela is playing Holocure.
>>43189194Rosemi Pomu and Selen crack jokes all the time and are way more enthusiastic than ina
>>43189290see>>43189234laugh all you want anon but the fact that they cant even retain their own audience which they currently cater too shows their skill when it comes to entertaining them.
What a gay thread
nave you ever thought about ignoring the bait?
>>43188819
>>43189298The least angry brat itt
>>43189233Somebody tried to show the receipts by showing timestamps, but holy moly the descriptions are so forced that only the schizophrenics can come up with those descriptions.
>>43189298hey man, im not one to say>skill issuebut if you can't understand that...i think you need to up your English skill by at least a few years
>ackshually nijis would be good if they were holosHow are you earnestly arguing against literal niji cope worth mockery and derision
>>43189207>being exposed to holoboxthat's not how it works retardyou literally are proof that being exposed doesnt do shit as yuo still woudlnt watch them becaue they arent in holo. not because of some delusional lack of entertainment from their side. You watch holo through a rose-tinted glasses and think they are more entertaining than they actually are becasue of the blue dorito mark next to their name. Taht's it. If Selen, Pomu or Rosemi were in holo under a different name with a different design with the holo mark to their name you would gobble up their shit like a hungry baby and never look back.
i cant tell which sister state of seething is worse, them getting btfoed right now or when luxiem was getting decent numbers. with luxiem they just spam them getting 10ks and shit, but with this they are just constantly seething and making retarded hypotheticals.
>>43189058Bae does play into her strengths a bit more. She knows she can’t tell jokes, therefore she actively make herself the butt of ever joke. Her whole “Forget English” bit it entirety her own making, and that duolingo stream was her fueling it. Today, she knew full well she didn’t know shit about Australian geography, and played into the joke of AZKi showing her around. She well aware of what she’s good at and what she’s not.
>>43189290and? they're still better than every nijien members, that's how bad nijien at hiring talent
>>43189290i mean the fact that they chose ina sana and bae instead of pomu selen and rosemi kinda proves the point that they know what they are doing since selen rosemi and pomu are way below the kiara line
Is there a single day that Nijifags aren't seething??
>>43189307It's intern-kun's work hour
>>43189218What you said is basically a gargantuan pile of shit that can be applied to any holo gen past yon-kisei
>>43189193i'm busy watching okayu
So what did Kay Yu to do to piss Matsuri off? Why hasn't she touched Holocure since the update?
>Kobo mogging the entire en chuuba scene.....I think kobo 3d debut will mog gura.
>>43189217Post clips of Bae, Sana and Ina being entertaining .
>>43189386I mean they would because they'd actually have management properly breathing down their necks.
Holyshit i just caught up on this thread, damn that is a lot of bae seethe. So much jealousy for such a small rat
HOLOVERSUSHOLOIKZZZZZZZ
>>43189399Baelz isn't even Australian, she's Chinese
>>43189234See>>43188201
>>43189435Less yabs wouldn't make Nijisanji worth watching
JWU, why are Nijisisters seething and coping this time?
>>43188766Maybe deep inside her heart, but for an idol, that love naturally comes through in their demeanor.Bae just doesn't have that intensity. She "likes" her fans, and appreciates their support, but it's not "love" in the way an idol loves her fans. That's waaay too intense for her, and she would probably even call it cringe.She's a weeb idol larper aiming for a strawman ideal of what an idol is, she has no fucking clue why people flock to idols in the first place.
>>43189452Pay closer attention, do you see that seething Pomu/selenfag?Yeah
Honestly, pomu's streams have been getting boring lately and i been skipping more and more.
>>43189394>yuo still woudlnt watch them becaue they arent in holo. not because of some delusional lack of entertainment from their sideEven nijien fans dont watch them or dip on their streams early on anon and i dont think any of them have the holo rose tinted glasses.The fact that their own audience dips on them most of the time and the fact that the holo audience didnt cling on them shows how entertaining they are.i mean sure you might see them as entertaining but from the looks of it you are in the minority even in your own company.
>>43189458>Lazy EN whores>HololiveGood joke. Stop trying to ride JPs coattails ENfag
>>43189475Oh shut the fuck up you retards praise Fauna and she genuinely doesn't give a shit about her fans, let alone love. She can't even being herself to fucking say it on Valentine's day of all days
So, only two will qualify for the cripple tally, and no bronze?
>>43189475She certainly has more of a clue than most other people in her branchPandering to unicorns is not and has never been about being an idol
>>43189465>cant retain the niji audience on regular days>cant retain the holo audience during collabsits a skill issue
>>43189408>>43189409Do you faggots even read the replies you get? Why are you repeating the same fucking argument all over again like a bot? It's already been debunked. Are you actually that retarded and behave like a mindless drone or is this some bot?
>>43189532Absolute state of EN, yes. If only Bae was relevant enough to get 5k even under overlap.
>>43189528>She can't even being herself to fucking say it on Valentine's day of all daysShe did, I remember because I was compelled to say it back to her
>>43189528and saplings don't call Fauna an "idol" either for the same reason.
>>43189543>debunkedyou havent debunked shit since they couldnt retain both holo and niji audienceits a skill issue on their part anon
>>43189257she doesn't classify herself as a gaming streamer especially games like minecraft or MGS,
>>43189497anon i told you that being a streamer who is known for only playing one game was not going to work out
>>43189541>niji audienceroru roru rumaoget fauna into niji and see how she can retain the famous niji audeincebring selen to holo while at it for comparisonit would be embarrassing for you, mindless drone.
>>43189576Here's a (you)
>>43189257Beyond Two Souls now that was a game
>>43189569You can't even post proof
>>43189598>bring selen to holo while at it for comparisonshe was during the collabs and she didnt retain for shit
>>43185245>Once EN males are good and LONG dead you'll only have people actually interested in entertaining leftSo no one
>itt, retard's samefagging and arguing pointless nonsense
Since nijiniggers are raiding the thread, sell me on Rosemi. Does she collab with homos frequently?
>>43189582See >>43188323
>>43189215Is Fuma related to her?
>>43189602I liked the part where you can offer to suck a guy's dick for money before the game backs you out of it.
>>43189102I am absolutely certain that at least half this thread is just a gpt3 bot
>>43189543anon. pomu, selen and rosemi had no talent at all. nijien was stupid hiring those girls
>>43188818show me the way queen
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAr2lHZLNyU
Sisters were doing so good for a while and now it's full "muh blue dorito" meltdown. Amateur hour.
>>43189598Its a skill issue anon no matter how much you spin it. The nijien females have had 2 years to try and retain their audience and they have failed while other corpos have succeeded.
>>43188926NijiEN females borrow an uncomfortable amount of their audience from Luxiem who have the attention span of goldfish.
>>43189620She is not in holo !!Having a collab with a holo and being in holo are two different things, mindless drone.
>>43189547Or hell, at least get 5k after receiving the funnel from Fauna entering SC reading.
>>43189528Mumei also didn't say i love you on valentine's day, but she appreciates her fans
>>43189618>thinks the thread doesn't know
>>43189193I'm doing my JP reps. Bait or not I don't have much to add anyways.
/#/ teaches me that having streams with early peaks shows a skill issue.Therefore, we can deduce that Mumei is bad at Holocure, based on picrel.
>>43189669They didn't use to, but ever since Luxiem blew up, yea...
>>43189676She went into SC reading just as Fauna did, unfortunately. Fauna actually outlasted her stream.
>274 waiting for Kyoresu debut stream 6 hours awayIs it possible for her to make the cripple tally?
>>43189635>>43189673>>43188926Its a skill issue since even people outside holo can retain their audience
>>43189620Stop coping.If selen was in hololive she would get better numbers than fauna. Collabs are meaningless as holodrones won't watch a niji anyways.
>>43188225Suisei is a garbage dancer and only knows how to sing in one octave. Most overrated Holo in the entire company. In raw talent Risu, Kanata, and IRyS have her beat.
>>43189686It wasn't a very interesting stream, just time attack autism. So yea, skill issue. Normal holocure would've been better.
>>43189713Are you a Heimin?
>>43189696I mean that's the only thing they could do at the time, leeching from males audience is kinda humiliating. but numbers is numbers
>>43189657They are better streamers than Ina, Sana and Bae anon. Way better. Holo EN management was retarded to hire who they hired but then again it's nepotism so...
>>43189713>IRyS>talent
Why are the EN baits so bad right now? Nothing's happening and it isn't even EN hours.
only people who care about their fans is watame, kaela and (insert your favorite whore)kaela doesn't "love" her fans but care enough to do her pejung somethingsomething and try to help them become better people.she unironically does a bit of research to look up what she's discussing.watame is cute. that alone shows enough care
>>43189686I mean yeah but thats nothing compared to a nijisanji bleed anon
>>43189726I'll never forgive Kay Yu for nerfing Mumei and Broken Dreams on the day Moom decided to stream
>>43189764>30 Niji streaming right now>The sisters don't like any of them
>>43189764>Nothing's happening and it isn't even EN hours.As if EN hours matter when it's SEA time.
>>431897042k-3k probably
>>43189664It is everything BUT a skill issue anon. Fauna. Ina, Sana and Bae are proof of it. If yo are in holo you are set for life. doesnt matter if you are entertaining or not. The reason why niji's bleed early compared to holos is only because of the agency they belong to. Were Selen, Pomu and Rosemi in holo they would get much better numebrs tha Ina Sana and Bae becaue they are more entertaining BUT because of drone-like mentality of the fanbase and rose-tinted glasses you are unable to comprehend this.
>>43189712its not a company issue since people outside holo can retain their audience like pippaits a skill issue
>>43189713seethe. She's more successful than your oshi.
>>43189764Sorry, the "Tempus is stealing NijiEN's audience" meme accidentally mind broke the sisters.
>>43189802>>43189803Them being in hololive or even in any other agency would not stop them from bleeding viewers early onMaybe if they became 2views theyd have good retention
>>43189713The nice thing about this kind of bait is that it doesn't even matter whether it contains a slick of truth. Suisei is still the #1 virtual idol. If one tries to say that it isn't through skill, they're simply saying that it is through charisma.
>>43189708It's a being in niji with 200 other streamers issue.
>>43189756IRyS is unironically the textbook definition of a savant. Shes self taught with no formal training. Suisei trained and struggled as a literal who for years with no results.
>>43189751kek, this is the funniest shit I've read from nijikek
>>43189713>bae topic slowing down>shitting on pomu and selen going upOne new bait going up! >>43189420
>>43189803See>>43189842>>43189834It absolutely would. 100%. If fauna or ina dont bleed then rosemi or selen 100% wouldnt either. Stop being a delusional drone.
>>43189704No
>>43189842NijiCN has basically 0 overlap with NijiJP so you can't bring up the 200 other streamers bullshit.
>>43189842No it isn't because there have been days, especually recently, where there's only one Niji streaming for a full hour or two and it still happens
Can we get HoloKR already
>>43189855Didn't know drones had nerves to laugh.
>>43188944>Iroha's problem was self debuffThat and actually not being very bright. When she did something stupid people thought she was insulting her senpai, when she's in fact just pretty dumb.
>>43189898Then offload Altroon and all the others into it? Yes please.
What’s our cope to prepare in case Ina’s 3d fails to beat ID?
>>43189869>NijiJP audience>overlapping with Nijienruruits 100% a skill issue anon stop being a delusional rose/dragoon/pomudachiyou find your oshi entertaining but that doesnt change the fact that you are in the minority even in your own company
>>43189751Most people still remember Sana fondly to this day, while probably no one will remember who Rosemi was a month after her graduation.
>>43189898Cover has probably already dropped the ball with that one. They missed the perfect timing and now would just get scraps. Dunno if they'd even be as popular as ID.
>>43189894The only reason someone as boring as Bae or Ina doesn't bleed early on is the holobox. They are not entertaining on their own merit. Were they in niji they would bleed more than Rosemi or Selen. Were Selen in holo she would incline like crazy and probably be the most popular streamer considering Gura is a faggot who desont want to stream anymore.
Gura loves her fans.everyone else in EN tolerates them.she said she's dancing for ME. then she said for her, but then she said MOSTLY ME. then she said it was for the both of us.
Funny how they called them holodrones when nijifags have been posting on how the only thing that matters is for riku and the investors to gain money and everything else is irrelevant in the past few months.
>>43189925we can always fall back on the timezone cope
Well before she was draggin Bae's dead weight around, i'm glad AZKi finally got some good numbers and a chance to win new fans who previously just knew her as an old singer and ignored her.
>>43189941They only bleed becasue they are in nijiIt;s not a skill issue stop coping takodachi. Your oshi would perish in nijisanji.>>43189953AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Sanallite please....
>>43189966People will never agree with a sister that shits on holos, just fuck off with your delusions and watch streams.
>>43189966Selen, Rosemi and Pomu would still be shitters even in hololive anonIts a skill issue
>>43189906yeah, nijikek is too stupid to know anything
>>43189771I appreciate that Watame is close to her fans without doing cringey, fake relationship type pandering.
its been over 2 weeks, where's Millie?
>>43189925I mean, it will. She hasn't hyped it at all. Hasn't tell if there are quests and who they might be and it's far from her usual slot.
>>43190009>They only bleed becasue they are in nijiYes and they are in niji because they arent good enough to be in hololive
>>43189898I rather they have HoloEU first so EU fags stfu already. They will probably get less numbers than ID but who cares as long as EU stfu.
>>43189802We already heard your piece but you kept repeating it multiple times. Some are not convinced. Why not leave them alone and agree to disagree. Or do you really want to force everyone to take your position?I am sorry but your crusade is pointless because we have no material way to prove or disprove your point.
>>43188767Hypocrisy not hipocrisy, you need work on your vocabulary. Reard
I don't know who's worse, Fauna for being a slimy person who's taking advantage of the mentally ill or her mentally ill fans who don't realize they could do better than her. She is an awful human being who actively pretends she cares to manipulate her fans. "oh I HAVE to stream on Christmas/New Years/Valentine's in order to pretend I'm not getting fucked!" Or "oh I'm just going to ignore Holostars mentions even though my chat cares for them because of the 1% of paypigs I can't afford to piss off!" It's absolutely pathetic and sad. She doesn't care, she'll never care, but she'll say it over and over to overcompensate for that fact and to convince her audience she does. Even fucking Kronii cares more than Fauna does about her audience. Yet the person who genuinely cares gets routine fucked over because she has a bad accent. It's really really fucked.
>>43189764i mean during these hours, back when luxiem was competitive, there would be "insert luxiem 10k, holokek status?" spam, so it's kinda telling who is doing these retarded ass baits
>>43190016apparently a lot of people actually have taste, that's why they didn't watch those three KEK
>>43190040She will be back after Laplus
>>43190016>this level of cope>if we have ina and bae - absolute boring shitters not bleeding in holo>he thinks someone as entertaining as rosemi pomu or selen would still bleed in holororu rorurumao
>>43189985>EN is the bigger market, unlike an aging and dying island nation.>Ah en 3d debuts are not on jp prime time, how can the jop boost our numbers? AhhhhhThe duality of #.
>>43190062>I am sorry but your crusade is pointless because we have no material way to prove or disprove your point.The graph shows nijien bleeding viewers 80% of the time early on so its a damning evidence of their entertainment value.
>>43190066>oh I'm just going to ignore Holostars mentionsFAUNA I KNEEL!>I LOVE FAUNA-CHAN!
>>43190060Almost all the fucking euros I know watch JPs archives. If Kiara isn't indication that Euros don't want to watch EU chuubas I don't know what is.
>>43190060just put 2 or 3 EUs on en3
>>43190068I'm glad this happened, they've been silent ever since
>>43190092EN is the bigger POTENTIAL market, unfortunately no EN can actually bank on that potential except Gura.
>>43190066Hi shondo! Are you a /here/ regular too?
>>43190087Its a skill issue anon its the reason why they havent become bigger than holoen or why even pippa is starting to mogg them in numbers.
Hey graph anon.. Is NijiEN still reclining or finally fond their floor and stabilized?
>>43190128>bigger POTENTIAL marketwhat a meme
>>43190128>except GuraShould be even Gura at this point.
>>43190103Fauna is easiest EN chuuba to kneel to
why all this pent up anger?just jerk off and release all that energy.
>>43190125Nijisis broke that day.
>>43190125i mean you see this in this very thread arguing about hypotheticals, which is funny because they hated hypotheticals when i brought up what if millie didnt save fulgur and he graduated.
Council killed the EN market by hyping themselves up as gods and proving they were anything but.
>>43190177Anon seems unable to accept the fact that only a small number of people find nijien females entertaining
Watamage just told me that either Selen, Rosemi or Pomu will be involved in a yab very soon. Trust the plan.
>>43190174>stream less>gain less video viewswow who could have guessed?
>>43190161the only reason holo en is bigger is because of holo jp paving the perfect way for them.stop coping and trying to take credit for something that isnt yours. were nijis in holo the roles would swap. It;s not a skil issue as some nijis are better streamers than most holos yet they get worse numebrs purely because they are in niji - the anti-female agency.
>>43190208Omega, it's your fault
>>43190138Nah Shondo and Fauna made up she wouldn't do this now.
>>43190222Is the implication that someday she will stream more? Do you really believe it?
>>43190208>hyping themselves up as godsWhen did they do that?
>>43190176She has done nothing kneel worthy because she doesn't do anything. She does nothing for the HoloEN brand
> b2 "listeners" let discuss some numbers instead of timeloop
>>43190125Remember all the coping about how Salome would outgrow Gura too? God that was funny.
>>43189679Cute!
>>43190177Anon finds it hard to comprehend that some holos are only popular because of the agency they belong to.
>>43190189https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1626231323903012864Fat onyon... I hope her chest grew a size again.
>>43190250lore
Reminder to every delusional nijikek: you don't know anything retard
>>43190229It is a 100% skill issue anonIf they were actually entertaining they would have bigger numbers which would make anycolor focus on them more.
说点不好听的,如果我们失去了盔甲,那我们将没有软肋。现在我们有主播看,有直播追,所以一再忍让,因为阿夸在管着我们,让crew们无视仇恨,忽视伤害,不要争吵,但是如果夸因为这些仇恨和伤害,因为一再恶化的舆论环境隐退、毕业了呢?我们有了大把时间,可以披上匿名的ID去四处传播流言,可以给其他主播如法炮制几套九宫格黑料,可以恶剪一些断章取义的切片引导负面舆论,可以当个拱火拉踩的乐子人,可以去当个听风就是雨的求瓜路人,可以去放大审判每一句无心之言,可以去吐一口踩一脚每一个人,可以翻到蓝鸟上辱骂攻击,对你们喜欢的主播贴脸DT,P遗照,炸tag……哦,我们还可以毫无忌惮的混进空间列表、贴吧、nga、s1、某音、某书、厕所里,肆无忌惮地散发恶意,带着侮辱性黑称,参加每一场弑神狂欢。当你过来解释时,我会轻飘飘的回一句,“X奴别洗了,她好恶心啊。”我可以去做一个高枕无忧的作乱者、一个唯恐不乱的跟风者、一个是非不分的偏听者,看澄清者坠入深渊,看受害者百口莫辩。多么快活。爱是束缚,我管好我自己,不意味着我们的沉默温驯是被屠杀的理由。恶会反噬,未来的某一天,屠刀也将落到心怀叵测之人头上。希望每个v友都能善良一点。I am just bored and start browsing some holocopypastas.
>>43190229kek
>>43190249depends on if she can sort out her health shit I suppose.
>>43189962They opened a cafe in Seoul and it was very crowded, no doubt they will be more successful than the ID branch. They never even considered opening hololive related stuff in Jakarta
https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1626231323903012864Fat onyon... I hope her chest grew a size again.
>>43190261Show me Ace Taffy.
>>43190249Yeah, why not?
>>43190303Translate it you mong
>>43190284You think Council girls wrote that?
>>43190256weird that people kneel then, makes it seem like you're wrong
>>43190249yes
>>43190229>the only reason holo en is bigger is because of holo jp paving the perfect way for them.How come luxiem became big even though Nijijp didnt pave the way for them?How come Nijien Females was nothing before them?How come Nijien Females is now nothing without them?Its a skill issue anon
>>43190168Not graph anon but from last thread. NijiEN slowly showing their floor and probably will bounce back stronger after all the livers going back from vacation. Exoect them to get into regular cripple tally and probably Vox will likely to bounce back to regular 6-9k CCV
>>43190333probably omegatroon
>>43190303cool
>>43190066>She is an awful human being who actively pretends she cares to manipulate her fans.And I wouldn't have it any other way!
>>43190300>what is company cultureretard. Niji is known to be male focused and shoving their female streamers to the side. Many female vtubers from niji have complained about how they are being treated. It;s completely NOT a skil issue but an agnecy problem. Stop coping. You sound like a parrot.
>>43190303Actually a chad mindset.
Oh anyway another tiktok deal for HoloFes
>>43190353Zhang fujos.
>>43190066Manipulate her fans how? Into being entertained?
>>43190281retention isnt an agency thing anon otherwise we wouldnt see it on other corpos like phase, kawai, idol. hell even fucking verse has better retention than nijien.Its either nijien are just unentertaining or uninteresting people or all of their fans are retarded.
What set the nijisisters off this time?
>>43190373Yeah the livers have been recording for the past week
>>43190330NTA. Too tired to do a complete translation but it's an aquacrew telling others to not go to other places and spread rrats or anti other chuubas. Since that crap would either make Aqua graduate from the pressure and toxicity, and that karma will someday find those who spread those rrats.
>>43190445Shit brand, no fans
>>43190353isn't it funny they conveniently forget that nijiEN was featured in FUCKING KOSHIEN? never mind the fact that elira's 3d got shilled by kuzuha during a tournament.
>>43190411Elaborate?
>>43190421>>43190391how come they didnt manage to tap a new audience before luxiem when they had no male counterparts and all of the en resources were focused on them?
>>43190312Seoul got more money, currency wise
>>43190353How can you in good faith believe or argue that it's a skill issue when we have absolute shitters like Bae and bores like fauna, Ina in holo who dont bleed and get good numbers? No they are not entertaining, Just because you look at them through rose-tinted glasses that skewes your judgement doesnt mean they are objectively better streamers than Rosemi or selen. They arent. It;s an agency issue.
>>43190102>its a damning evidence of their entertainment valueYes.But the said anon argued that those bleeding graphs cannot be used as evidence since those streams are under the rainbow pacman branding, and it won't be that way if they are under the blue dorrito brand.But those claims are mere assertions so it all comes down to our own interpretations if we accept the premise.
>>43190330Basically chuuni copypasta posts from mainland aquacrew that they will harass, dox, spread rrats to every vtuber community if saint aqua gets hurt and graduates.
>>43188956SighI'll see you in 3 days. I won't tell you which girl is Bae but skip to the 3 minutes mark and the voice shortly after that point will clue you inhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=cYOHCSRVxoQ
NO KOROSHION DON'T GGOOOOOO
>>43190496>they are objectively better streamers than Rosemi or selenyes exactly
you guys are a bunch of fags.The reason Hololive is big is because of me.the reason gura is popular is because of me.the reason Myth blew up is because of me.Pekora is getting big numbers is because of me.EVERYTHING IS BECAUSE OF ME.Kneel before ME!I AM THE MEGA FAN!I AM HOLOLIVE!you fags did NOTHING for hololive.what did YOU contribute?
>>43190428It 100% is an agency thing. Even holos bleed just a bit later, after the 1 hour mark. I already explained why niji has worse retention. scroll up.
>>43190445they finally acknowledge hololive is better than nijisanji
>>43190469Haven't checked but it's probably the preview for the concert like they did for suisei last time?
>>43190373Why are you lying?
>>43189713Kanata's voice is terrible.
>>43190496>How can you in good faith believe or argue that it's a skill issue when we have absolute shitters like Bae and bores like fauna, Ina in holo who dont bleed and get good numbersBecause like it or not anon those 3 are shitters but the nijien females are even worse shitters.You who thinks that the girls are "entertaining" are in the minority even in your own company and this is post CN peak
>>43190477See>>43190229
>>43190168>>43122312TLDRAll in all>Myth bounced back up >Council stay stable around their striking range>Luxiem, Noctyx crashed from a very high point>Lazulight inclined>Obsydia stayed stable in a good point>Ethyria lost most of their 2022 gainsand>iLuna, XSoleil and Tempus are in a death race to the bottom
>>43190496They are better streamers.
>>43190469Same thing with Suisei
is ojou really popular is Chinaland
>>43190445They can't face the fact that their nijipancreas are more boring than sana
>>43190463kek
>>43189155If Rosemi is better than Fauna then how come she is losing to Fauna in every metric i can think of. Entertainment is subjective but numbers are objective and objectively Fauna is better than Rosemi
>>43190533>retard proving he only argues in bad faiththank you for proving all my previous points about you being a mindless drone looking through rose-tinted glasses. You only reinforced my believes. Congrats.
>>43190256Nice try Trannie>Your HOMO's are a MASSIVE FAILURE!>Prove me wrong!?!?!?!?
>>43190507And his argument is moot because even those outside the blue dorito branding have better retention and even those in the rainbow pacman branding in jp have better retentionAnon just cant seem to accept the fact that Nijien has very low standards when they came recruiting which is reflected in the graphs
>>43190312Kek they opened cafe in Singapore, Taiwan, Korea, US. But never once in Indo their own branch, I wonder why
>>43190613lol
>>43190445Bae is the weak link of HoloEN; any discussion about her opens a prime opportunity for ALL OUT WAR.The same doesn't happen with Kiara because even the sisters are scared of KFP.
I belive Nijisanji would be doing better if they had a cooler logo.
>>43190613>still using the rose tinted glasses argument when people outside holo have better retention than nijienactually now that i think about it maybe its not a skill issue but more a fan issue where all of nijien fans are just drooling retards who cant focus past 10 minutes.
>>43190621conflict of interest
>>43190550>>43190583Thanks.
>>43190562>>43190581And that's a cope. In no universe is Ina or Bae a fucking better streamer than Selen or Rosemi lmao Watch streams or dont cause you are going to be biased anyways.
>>43190621indochads are too expensive for cover
>>43190584SEA also use tiktok
>>43190666true and based
>>43190541Its an agency thing but not for that reason. Its an agency thing because niji has lower standards than hololive which reflects in the graphs.
>>43190535fuck off omega
>>43190607Scroll up and read the thread to get your answer faggot. It was explained pretty well. I won;t repeat myself for a thousandth time
>>43190707>indochads
>>43190664Not even just KFP. Kiara actually does put lots of effort into strengthening her bonds with her genmates, so other fanbases like her as well and will also defend her from antis in internet arguments.
>>43190693>Watch streamsYou dont need to watch their streams to know that they are unentertaining since they even fail to entertain or retain their target audience anon.You are in the minority here that likes them.
>>43190693(you)
>>43190679yes retention in niji en is badthats why im saying it's an agency issue if holos were in niji they would have the same bad retentionif nijis were in holo they would have their good retention. Simple.
Faline San said she will take big projects starting on march. Will still upload her videos but not much. Potential EN3?
>>43190693>Watch streams or dont cause you are going to be biased anyways.anon even their own audience finds them boring and dips early own and those people are biased for nijisanji.
wow 1000+ posts and 90% of them are dogshit !
>>43190812Is she good, what does she offer?
>>43190812Who
I think she is too big for Hololive
>>43190512Didnt they have actual schizos believe that Aqua was being held captive by Cover and that they needed to rescue her at one point?
>>43190809its only an agency issue because nijien had low standards when it comes to hiringits why nijien has shitty retention compared to literally everyone else
>>43190726>he says this when holoen hired ina sana and baeyour argument about standards makes no sense sorrySelen rosemi and pomu are higher standard than ina bae and sana
all this seething from the nijitroon...
Just so it's clear, we're all in agreement that Anykara is a shithole agency right?
>>43190845Meant for this>>43190812
>>43190693Rosemi is a shitter even compared to only NijiEN organs, there must be a logical reason why that is.
>>43190871>weARE NEVER EVER EVERGETTING BACK TOGETHER
>>43190860Ina sana and bae has bigger and better retention than selen rosemi and pomu anon
>>43190784>torist retard comming through not even reading the thread throwing his irrelevant 2 cents inread the thread first faggot and see that your point was already debunked many times.retention and bleeding has nothign to do with them personally as it's the niji debuff. Ina would bleed even more if she was part of niji females
>>43190854they also started a funding campaign to "buy" aqua from Cover, and then the guy who made disappeared with the money lol
TLDRNijinogs have lost it
>>43190841Have a good one then, anon.
>>43190857they hired rosemi selen and pimu who are way better streamers than ina bae and sanaif niji has bad standards, what does it say about holo?
>>43190913kek
who is still biting?
>>43190939Give it a rest, anon.
>>43190901>retention and bleeding has nothign to do with them personally as it's the niji debuffI agree its not 100% on them since the agency takes some blame for hiring them but they still take a big blame anon, theyve literally had 2 years to find and do something to both grow and retain their audience.
>>43190894Because they are in holo anonI already explained this thsouand timesHow can you be so retarded? A bot? A parrot? A mindless drone? A bored troll? Who are you?
>>43190871Yes. I'm we.
>>43190937i can't tell if it's a bitter lazusydia fag that's mad his obscure streamers he likes are absolute shitters for their entire career or a shitposter getting really into it, posting on cooldown. all i know is they are incredibly sad.
>>43190964my cat. She stopped being a kitten long ago, but she's still biting.
>>43190937lost what
>>43190971and as ive said even people outside holo have retention anonwhy cant you just admit that nijien standards being so low made it so that they hired shitters
>>43190765Well, I don't like Kiara as a streamer, but I do respect her as a person. I typically shit on her for poor numbers, but I guess I'd make an effort to defend her if someone tried to make it about her character.
>>43190964It's nice that he isn't Holo vs holoing for once atleast, although still just as retarded
>>43190809yes retention in niji en is badthats why im saying it's an agency issueniji en is worse at hiring than holo enif holos were in niji they would have kept their good retention in nijiif nijis were in holo they would have kept their bad retention in holo. Simple.I can play your retarded game.So for the bystanders, choose your pick:>branding and culture issue>hiring issue
>>43190938thanks sheep. you always brighten up my days/nights
>>43190913Pretty hilarious. I do wonder how much it'd cost to have Cover ever part with a vtuber though. I assume they wouldn't, but everyone probably has a price.
>>43190965I accept your concession.>>43190966>missing the entire pointcongrats you might be clinically retarded.In another universe Selen was hired by holo and Fauna by niji and guess what theyir graphs and numbers are swapped. Because thats what would happen. You can't tell me yuo fucking believe Fauna or Bae would have these numbers in niji????
>>43190812Has she ever expressed interest in vtubers or even being a streamer? Looks like just a normalfag youtuber
>>43189149https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvCG2VzNkaUreal ID gold
>>43191012>>43191008
>>43190999Why are you so stubborn to not admit that it's not the talent's fault or entertainment value but the niji mark that is a debuff as they are the anti-female agency?? They are more entetaining than most holos yet get worse numbers purely becasue of the label they belong to.
>>43186467>>43187179And here is the** MEDIAN OF PEAKS, GLOBAL, FEBRUARY FIRST FIFTEEN DAYS, 1k plus **Here are some quick fire comments1) There are 232 tracked channels over 1k, and the punchline2) All of VSPO made the cut, with the lowest ranked having a 2167 median3) Only five of the twelve Neo Porte made the cut4) Twenty-four tracked indies made the cut, including DELUTAYA5) Lowest ranked Holo JP girl was Mel, with a 3k+ median. Haachama and Roboco were the only other two with a sub 5k median in the branch6) Karin Necoma and Virtual Obaachan both spot a 4.5k median, outranking Haachama, Kiara and every NijiEN girl7) Pippa outranks Petra, kson and Reine8) Re:Act's Leona made the cut9) Kagura Mea outranks Shiro and Rindouand the punchline10) Roberu outranks FIVE (5) out of the Holostars EN so far this month
>>43190245faunaschizo is the discord groomer that's still seething that his 5D chess maneuver to make Fauna EN Aloe and Shondo his sex slave failed
>>43190998Lost the plot
>>43191012>You can't tell me yuo fucking believe Fauna or Bae would have these numbers in niji????not those numbers but they would have better retentionselen would have bigger numbers but still have that shitty retention
>>43190809it's true that hololive is better than nijisanji, but the talent also part of the reason why hololive became so big today. and hololive pick the right talent, otherwise they will become like nijien today
>>43191008basolutely delusional faggot. What makes you even think A boring shitter like ina fauna or bae would have good retention in niji? You are on pure copium mode right here. It;s time to stop this faggotry.
>>43191009If there's some thing that could make Cover give up one of its talents, that thing is not money.
>>43191072>niji mark that is a debuff as they are the anti-female agency??that makes 0 sense since they were shitters even before luxiem
>>43191093Definitely not. They would have worse retention than Rosemi. Because they are boring and people keep watchig only becasue they are part of hololive.>>43191095The talents who are the reason hololive is better are in JP
>>43189161>If you've donated USD $1k, you get 1 hour of 1-o-1 voice chat with Zoey! Please email us the compiled receipt and we'll arrange it!
>>43191093>selen would have bigger numbersNo she wouldn't
>>43191105It literally is but its money that doesn't go to the girls they drool over
>>43191012>I accept your concession.I wasn't even the one arguing with you. You're definitely a retard though. Stop shitting up the thread or at least get better bait. It's boring.
>>43191133And from what weve seen in the graphs rosemi seems to be more boring anon
>>43191012Do you really believe that you "win" argument when people get sick of replying to what is probably an underage highschooler who just finished his first debate class with 60%?
>170+ ip>1000+ postRoru
>>43191142Nope.
>>43185671>HoloEN's audience values Western meme proficiency and humor the most, over hard work, and even over other talentsCould have just stopped there anon
>>43191133oh holojp talents are better i agree but holoen is still leagues ahead of nijien
>>43191148See>>43188201And stop repeating the same invalid point over and over again, drone.
>>43190993Lazusydia fn having a mental breakdown and realizing his whores will never be big. They lost everything. The comfy status, the chemistry, even their numbers are going down and none of the new female talents are any good. It's over for nijien and the sunk cost is too big
>>43190693So what makes Pomu and selen better than ina for you?
>>43191173Yes? Sponsorship money that was going to Cover and not individual members is why they fired a talent.
So, when's Paul Li handing out the gift cards?
>>43191102all of them have the ability of building their audience. something similar also happen to luxiem, why nijien female couldn't? simple, skill issue
>>43191189>but holoen is still leagues ahead of nijienThis was never true and that's what im trying to illustrate to you.
Wait doesnt Uki, Shu and Noctyx have semi better retention than the girls?
>>43189161You gotta pay $1k before you can call her your wife
>>43191219He better have saved up, this guy has been earning a truckload today.
>>43191102Enjoyment is subjective. Just because you don't see Fauna and Bae as entertaining does not mean it is true to others.Hell, some fans of 2views believe their oshi are better than 5views.You have to learn to agree to disagree and to stop forcing your beliefs to others if they actively resist it.You are just agitating Fauna, Ina, and Bae fans.
>>43191230it is true anon and the numbers and graphs back it up.
>>43191230luxiem has proven you wrong
>>43190739I accept your concession. Atleast tell me one good thing about Rosemi
>>43191210They are more charismatic and enthusiastic during streams. >>43191221none of them build an audience. it was hype generated by the agency and being labelled as a holo. ASs to luxiem they were botted by zhang fujos.
>>43191263>You have to learn to agree to disagree and to stop forcing your beliefs to others if they actively resist it.He doesn't have to do that when his objective is to shit up the thread. Quite the opposite in fact.
>>43191077Anemachi my beloved.
>>43191275Imagine believing in numbers and trends instead of some schizos feelings.
>>43191263>just agitating Fauna, Ina, and Bae fansI don't think anyone is getting agitated by such obvious trolling
https://youtu.be/fRr2k5zHgQM
mein gott SEA hours are particularly retarded today
>>43191220Getting your story reversed. They fired a talent for contract breach. They WERE considering not firing her, but that would stain them as an untrustworthy company.
>>43191305whats funny is that his argument falls flat on his face when you remember that the girls were shitters before luxiem and when they had 100% of the branch's resources directed to them
>>43191263You are missing my point. Yes entertainment is to some degree subjective but we can compare how god of a streamer someone is and Pomu selen and rosemi are better streamers than ina sana and bae. This is objective. Were they in holo they would also get better numbers than them>>43191275holo audience watching holo wow what a surprisenothign to do with the talents.>>43191276what???>>43191284Retard. Rosemi is funny and cute.
>>43191287>ASs to luxiem they were botted by zhang fujos.where do you think those zhang fujos come from? they didn't exist until luxiem debut. luxiem literally build their fanbase from zero. and nijien female has never done something like that. because of why?? correct. skill issue
>>43191350timezone locked.
>>43191355>contract breachof a sponsorship not pertaining to specific talents, ergo more pay for the office drone that does literally nothing for us
>muh agencyCan we add this to the nijicope list?
>>43191287>They are more charismatic and enthusiastic during streamsWeird, I think that Ina, or any holo really, is more of that than Pomu or Selen. Apparently that can't be true, since you gave definitive proof that people believe the opposite.
>>43191351kys germutt>>43191390eigo jouzu
>>43191134kek, missed that
>>43191398Oh, you were just trolling. Sorry then, didn't mean to disturb you.
>>43191441Cope
>>43191350I guess they aren't getting an MV huh? Also surprisingly it's English.
>>43191389Thanks for the laugh, retard.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Q8bMih46-bcEN GOLD
>>43191415>I think that Ina, or any holo really, is more of that than Pomu or SelenYou only think so because you look through rose-tinted glasses at them. If Pomu or Selen were a different persona that debuted in hololive you would be now arguing for them.
>>43191465>unembeddable /live/kek
>>43191389>holo audience watching holo wow what a surpriseyoure suprised they find them entertaining? does the nijien audience not watching niji stream? is that somehow the norm for nijisanj?kina feels like its a skill issue.
>>43191041The more disconnected someone from vtubing industry they are more likely to get hired by Cover
>>43191462I accept your concession, drone.
>>43191133I mean you can't really ignore myths impact on the whole scene holo jp are stronger as entertainers but myths burst in popularity and exposure helped jp grow a lot not to mention the fact that holo en is way stronger then niji en
>>43191389>This is objectiveHow do you measure it?
>>43191431>losing to an argument>eigo jouzu
>>431914655k tops.
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1626244125124362240
>>43191471and you would be arguing against them because of your own rose tainted glassesnumbers and graphs says that they are shitters
>>43191287Those superficial characteristics anon. I meant objectively
>>43186363I mean, the underwear stream proved that she can exercise her power whenever she wants
>>43191220You think they fired Rushia because she didn't want to do a sponsorship?
>>43191523My feelings > Your feelings.
>>43191532Numbers?
>>43191483>missing the point>again>>43191516lmao nono EOP watches JP anymore
>>43191465Nvm lol
>>43191541no, read better
>>43191548depending on the thumbnail 25k
>>4319154845k
>>43191471If Ina was in Nijisanji you'd say that she's a better fit for hololive with her "seiso-ness"
>>4319154815-22k
>>43191465>18thIna is going to eat her like a cookie.
>>43191532Qrd?
>>43191536>No y-you!!!Nice deflection >>43191540Cope faggot. Rosemi is more entertaining than Sana.
>>43191532Song + outfit?
>>43191556Whats the point? That nijien cant even make their own audience watch let alone stay for their streams?How is that a company issue and not a skill issue on the streamers part anon.
>>43186467INDOCHAD?
>>43191532>double revealOriginal song and dakimakura? Original song and new intro?
>>43191230Only luxiam came close to holoen and they have reclined hard since then, so has holo en but they still have a far stronger mindshare and potential then any nijitalent
>>43191510Anons already know which shitposter you are from your incessant concession posting.
>>43191350is this the gura bae one?
>>43191350these holo27 songs are dumpster fire so far
>>43191548She got 40k with a normal zatsu so I'm gonna say 60k minimum on this one.
>>43191389>Funny and cuteThat's it? Faggot you yourself don't watch her if that's your answer.
>>4319154835K
>>43191615>he says this when sana can retain her audience better than rosemi can retain herskek
>>43191636Still amazes me how hard Luxiem crashed. They were really solid at the start of last year and just junked it all.
>>43191532Double reveal??? One is Sweet Appetite, right?
>>43191601NO i wouldnt. Notice how I only mention Selen Pomu and Rosemi cause I believe these are the ones that would be better in holo. I certainly dont think someone like nina or enna would do good
>>43191693Vox shouldn’t have insulted Sonny’s mom
>>43191655>That's it? Faggot you yourself don't watch her if that's your answer.Of course he doesntHis main argument is that the only reason why selen, pomu and rosemi has shit numbers somehow nijien fans dont watch streams while hololive fans watch holo streams.Guy is kinda retarded
>>43191532>#gawrguraManagement tweet
>>43186525I mean, worked with Pekora
>>4319154825k. No, scratch that, 35k. No, 45k. Actually 38k. 29k, maybe? 50k my final offer. No, 42k.
Notice how the holo v holo stopped?
>>43191655color me surprised >>43190287
>>43191666You dont know this satan since rosemi never had the opportunity to be inn holo so we cant compare their graphs.>>43191655kys, that's literally all gura is.
>>43191702No because that's out already, not really a reveal
Why did they choose bae to pair with gura? Literally anyone else would be better and wouldn't pull the numbers down.
>>43191702Why would she reveal a song that already came out?
>>43191389>Pomu, Selen, and Rosemi are objectively better streamers than Ina, Sana, and Bae.We are talking about objectivity now, huh? Thank goodness. These are what I will ask you.>What is the objective way to measure how competent a streamer is?>Can you describe the methodology?>What information are needed to be subjected into the said objective process?
>>43191532>ESTEN management hates her now
>>43191752>>43191771
>>43191758Someone has to sing the japanese part
>>43191758IRyS or Fauna would probably drag the numbers down more for a song honestly.
>>43191636luxiem was propped by zhang sisters retardthey didnt inclinejust few mentally ill sisters who botted them and left
>>43186692It's also not that hard to understand that there are a lot of people who want to treat woman like literal object and will throw a hissy fit if they think they have to share it with someone else
>>43191745you spoke to soon see >>43191758
buy now anons!
>>43185343>>43185259Pekora as never lost contact with Hinatan, she called her on her birthday in 2021 too. And as no issues talking about her on stream on the rare occasion someone brings up her name.
>>43191798>luxiem was propped by zhang sisters retard>they didnt inclineI mean if thats the case then the whole branch didnt incline and became stagnant
>>43191539>No EOP watches jpYou know basing your openion on /hllg isn't really right
>>43191771Wow what a massive faggot trying to talk about muh methodology with rose-tainted glasses on his face LMAO give me a break drone
>>43191724>Management tweetRetard post.
>>43191819fuck
What song are kiara and mumei singing
>>43191758Fuck that, why didn't Gura get a solo song?They better not pull this bullshit with Suisei too.
The major reason the Luxiem boys crashed hard is because the spent the majority of last year pandering to the event tourist instead dedicating long periods of time creating a rock solid viewership floor
huh actually the guy has some point.if nijisanji was actually good they would have retained their own audience.
>>43191791The song's entirely in English anon.
>>43191839>replying to the wrong post>had an aneurysm while typingkek holo en management isn't sending their best huh?
>>43187049>if fauna could speak JapaneseSO never
>>43191548>Numbers20k>RevealCover song and merch most likely
>>43191839 ment for>>43191556
>>43191870HoloX will get more solo songs lol
>>43191758IRyS would have been shitter kek
>>43185410It is weird how baes numbers keep getting lower and lower but the brrats here keep increasing. The more she reclines the more posts about her appear. Even her covers don't get any views anymore
>>43191896that's because they choose the wrong talent
>>43191077>Kobo: 10408>Salome: 8868
>>43191568Oh, my sarcasm detector broke because of this thread. My bad.
>>43191898>someone shilling for niji is somehow holoen management intern kun why are you so retarded
>>43191920Yeah I already replied slowpoke>>43191898/hlg/ is being raided and trolled by nijifagsthose arent eops
>>43191350Someone throw a catbox link for us non SEA anons.
No one would've been a better option than bae anyways. Mori is doing her own shit. The only 2 options left for the deco thing are Kiara and Mumei. Mumei can't sing in jap and Kiara is equally as debuff as Bae.
>>43191854Ghost Rule
>>43191854Ghost rule
>>43191961Retard, how are they shilling for niji?
Hololive talents > niji. hard diff
>>43189547She couldn't even reach 4k....
>>43191644Pekomiko Mosh Race is cool tho
>>43190515holy shit, thanks anon
>>43191898Fucking retard do you think 30k people watching pekora are Japanese? A lot of audiance has stuck around and denying that is retarded
>>43192015read the original reply chain he was gonna reply to next time intern kunhe was replying to that retard who kept on arguing that the reason why nijien talents have bad retention is not because theyre not entertaining but because nijien fans dont watch them
>>43191230You're a delusional sister if that's the case. SC, total views, CCV, and every number you can think of, the ENTIRETY of NijiEN lose or in par to just Myth, and that's just Myth. Picrel.Then there's mindshare and other stats like merch, Omocat, figures, con/fes attendance. Anon??? Let's be serious here
>>43192083I thought the ID tag was a debuff?
>>43187562>In this case, deliver entertainment.Yes, which by EN audience means reacting to random YT videos and making harambe jokes, apparently
>>43191896Exactly. Nijis are just that boring. Simple.
>>43191849What do you mean by rose-tainted glasses? The fact that I like Rosemi's visuals and voice?
>>43192083why don't people watch enna? she's cute
>>43192012ghost rule doesn't seem like a mumei song to me
>>43192104those who watch her because of myth are miniscule
>>43190515I am absolutely and conclusively>unimpressedIf that's what people are saying is her claim to dance godhood, I genuinely don't think she can even be in the top 5 for the currently existing Holos
>>43192170I mean is that bad? Didn't Kronii only get like 6k for her first stream of that game?
>>43187668Are you seriously comparing US and Europe to fucking Aussie? Like I know they're shit but you don't have to disrespect them like that
>>43190913that's the chink special
>>43192170because nijien fans dont watch streams but not because they are boring or anything they just somehow dont according to our resident nijifag/intern
>>43192115he was shilling for holo en not niji and saying niji's bleeding is their own fault and not the agency they belong to
btw Millie is back with a meme concert but I guess no one really cares about her
>>43191898Ha! As if EN management would ever shill holos.
>>43192136only the niji tag is a debuff
> 1200 postsalright wtf happened, new nijiyab or smth?
>>43192162the fact that you think rosemi wouldnt do better in holo. the fact that you think sana or bae are better streamers than her.
>>43192208Nevermind she got 9k but I guess thats about what you would expect, 9k for a Holo girl and 3k for a Niji girl seems in line with their norms.
>>43192208funny because enna got 2.7k when streaming pt1 at 11am jst, i can only imagine why she's getting more on pt2 of this boring ass game.
>>43190066
>>43192232no he was shilling for niji since i asked him why they didnt watch nijien streams if they werent boring but he replied with >le missing the point non answer
>>43192260Among other things, there is no page 11 right now
>>43192268objectively sana and bae are better streamers due to not just the numbers but retention>b-but my company brandshu and uki also has semi good retention for nijien
>>43192260mind broke sis telling how nijiEN will have higher # if you put them in holo
>>43192260It's just the Giftcord frantically trying to convince everyone why their whores are better, even though there's empirical evidence that that isn't the case.
>>43192136If Kaela had EN tag, she'd be a 15k streamer
The Gura song is with Bae and not even on YT? Is this a joke?
>>43192296You retard are mixing anons up. You canrt even read the chai since the retard here>>43191839 replied to the wrong post
>>43192260some retard actually thinks that rosemi, selen or pomu hass what it takes to be in hololive when they cant even entertain or retain the retarded nijien audience.
>>43192170all things considered, she's actually inclining. she was also one of the few niji female that could built her own audience. cucck audience of course, but still..
So Fauna and Mumei in the cripple and gaijin tallies. GRIM. Milord, save EN during CN time again.
>>43192370see>>43191920he meant to reply to the nijifag post
>>43192293Marine! You can't say that. You're gonna get cancelled.
>>43192170"You calling her cute, ewww parasocial incel much"
>>43192403>all things considered, she's actually incliningyeah no she's down from her peak like the other girls
>>43192260Slow as fuck catalog and we are getting raided out the ass. We got 180+ IPs for no apparent reason.
>>43192307did catalog get nuked?
>>43192413yeah exactlythats why I sad he is a holo intern, replying to a nijifag
really makes me think if Met would've really graduated if the VSPO deal didn't go through
>>43192170You filthy liar.
>>43192370They write in the same manner.
>>43192403>incliningwasnt she a 5k streamer a few months back?
>>43192411>"Milord">saving anyoneHe can't even save himself.
>>43192411voxy will be lucky to beat pomu when he comes back, the sisters know everything
>>43192477is that not what was stated already? that she would graduate if 774 didnt do a full transfer to vspo, she would graduate?
>>43191752You don't watch Rosemi. You are just here to shitpost. Pls have some decency and don't ruin her image
>>43192467and thats why i called you intern kun or are you new on the job and you dont know who intern/noor is?
>>43192459she still inclining compared to her a year ago