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>> No.43185163
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.43185179
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what went wrong for irys?

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>>43185158
Recent clip numbers
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>> No.43185190

Can we skip to lamy lewds already?

>> No.43185213
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>38,879: Toya (Nijisanji)
>31,781: Calli (Hololive)
>31,008: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,266: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,904: Kanata (Hololive)
>21,814: Korone (Hololive)
>20,241: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>20,213: Uiha (Nijisanji)
>18,471: Shion (Hololive)
>18,081: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>17,957: Hal (Neo Porte)
>15,119: Ui (Indie)
>14,476: Watame (Hololive)
>14,422: Botan (Hololive)
>14,122: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,386: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,991: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,750: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,285: Nene (Hololive)

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>my cock in pekora's thin feminine hands

>> No.43185223

>>43185190
yes, go ahead

>> No.43185230
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What did we learn last thread, amigo?

>> No.43185245

>>43184963
>Now most of the EN scene is taking cues from Hololive and avoiding males entirely, and after Vesper basically imploded, male chuubas have just completely evaporated in reputation.
It's a good thing anon. I actually support the idea of male vtubers, but the VAST majority of them are uninteresting, unfunny, unentertaining, creepy, weirdos, sex pests, leeches, menheras, morons, can't manage themselves, etc.
The only way they'll ever succeed is if they excise the cancer, and so long as those types feel even REMOTELY welcome they'll never leave. Once EN males are good and LONG dead you'll only have people actually interested in entertaining left, and then slowly but surely a good male can grow somewhere, one day he might even get into Niji or Holostars and start some kind of renaissance for the EN males, but that's wishful thinking.

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>>43185213
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,315 - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Marine
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
33x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa, Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>> No.43185251

>>43185103
>>43185110
He spoke against the ones who whined about vtubing being an unfair hobby for men with basically the mantra of "just keep working instead of complaining"

>> No.43185252

Matsuri broke her KU100 by plugging in the input while voltage was applied. That things fucked. what's that 10 grand minimum?

>> No.43185259

>>43184545
> Koroshio
> PekoHina
jesus did we timeskip back to late 2019? is NuCoco gonna debut soon?

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>>43185230
nijirais love to start holo vs holo

>> No.43185283

>>43185190
Even if by some miracle someone else wins today, there's nothing wrong with looking at some Lammy lewds.

>> No.43185288

>>43185245
Luxiem is a bad influence on male Vtuber, at least in EN
Fujo pandering exist in JP too but I’m sure none of them goes as far as Vox’s

>> No.43185301

>>43185230
We learned that our Tempus boys stole all of NijiENs viewers lol

>> No.43185307

>>43185252
She chould buy 10 and destroy 9 if she wants to

>> No.43185319
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*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/15 DAILY TALLY
31,781: Mori (Hololive)
13,386: Mumei (Hololive)
11,991: Fauna (Hololive)
9,718: Fauna (Hololive)
8,750: Ina (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mori
3x: Baelz
2x: Amelia
1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii, Fauna, IRyS, Gura

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
24p: Mori
21p: Baelz
12p: IRyS
11p: Amelia, Mumei
9p: Ina, Fauna
7p: Kronii, Vox
5p: Kiara, Gura
4p: Vesper
3p: Uki, Luca, Magni
1p: Mysta

>> No.43185323

>>43185252
Apex Gacha stream soon

>> No.43185329

>>43185158
Sex with elves

>> No.43185332

>>43184622
OG FPS chuuba and pekochan's ooold friend
iirc she lost most of her audience after her cheating yab

>> No.43185333

>minecraft
>2,962
How do we even save chammer at this point...

>> No.43185343

>>43185259
pekomiko bros our time soon

>> No.43185344

>>43185230
I love shion-tan!! T u T

>> No.43185355
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>>43185319
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
28x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori
4x: Baelz
3x: Mysta, Ina
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, IRyS
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Fauna, Gura

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
43p: Mumei
35p: Ina
29p: Amelia, Baelz, Mori
28p: IRyS
26p: Vox, Fauna
23p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kiara
10p: Pomu
8p: Ike, Millie
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Gura
4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>> No.43185357

>>43185307
Rich people don't stay rich by wasting money.

>> No.43185359

>>43185259
>NuCoco gonna debut soon?
EN3 and JP7 are next. It's possible

>> No.43185361

Shion and Korone are so close it's beautiful

>> No.43185368

>>43185288
And now Hex is taking it even further

>> No.43185372

>>43185259
>PekoHina
What?

>> No.43185384
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list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

>> No.43185383

>>43185333
who?

>> No.43185394

>>43185372
Pekora called Hinata on stream

>> No.43185403
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They are SO close to each other.

>> No.43185406

>>43185332
She had a hard time transitioning from prerecorded content to livestreaming and fell behind.

>> No.43185410

IRL streaming proves that constant growth and solid fanbase > Explosive growth
No disrespect to Gura, she has earned her millions, but she's also one of, if not THE biggest vtuber with the most dead subs behind maybe kizuna ai because the people that came for ''uwu shark cunny'' left when she didnt do that. Hell after she took a break, some schizos turned their back on her because ''she didnt like being a streamer anymore''
Bae does great on retention, has a really solid fanbase (you can tell because the same fanartists that drew for her on her first days keep doing it and for the really high number of gold medals) and most importantly: She always has different avenues of new subs via collabs and different streams. People who dont know Bae/her style are more likely to be exposed to her than say Fauna because Bae will go out of her way to diversify the watcher pool.
Which is why Anya had so many troubles getting off the ground, since she was doing her own thing and practically refusing to collab with anyone except Ollie and Reine
TLDR: Bae has similiarities to Mio, where they seem like they are lagging behind but they are playing the long game of building a solid fanbase like the good ol yt days, which pays off tremendously later on your carreer

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>>43185384
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfxMCtHl4kc
Oh Chima is also doing outfits reveal

>> No.43185420

>>43185252
anon when when a thing breaks you dont need to buy a new one, you can repair it for much less

>> No.43185428

>sub 30k solo mincra

>> No.43185429

>>43185357
If you cant waste money, that mean you aint rich bro

>> No.43185431

>>43185410
>he says this when mr beast and pewdiepie has even more dead subs than gura

>> No.43185434

>>43185245
I wonder if the cbdct sisters would be willing to dumspter dive 2view male chuubas to find actual entertaining ones like this thread occasionally does.
Then again I guess most women are just attracted by big numbers...

>> No.43185440

>>43185332
It's so awkward, I wish holo could save her but she is considered to be one of vtubing forerunners and she can't really give up the persona or have it join something like holo. I think she makes enough to get by as a 3view.

>> No.43185453

>>43185410
Who?

>> No.43185462

>>43185417
JESAS
Thats fucking outfit is GODLIKE

>> No.43185463

>>43185410
Hi Bae

>> No.43185464

>>43185410
Bae had no growth potential, her voice and personality are poison from an entertainment perspective.

>> No.43185467

>>43185417
DEUS VULT!

>> No.43185486

>>43185417
Oh fuck

>> No.43185490

>>43185179
ships killing gfe or something

>> No.43185498

>>43185417
Going from Lamy's to Chima's outfits reveals.....the drop in quality is very noticeable...

>> No.43185500

>>43185417
>nazi outfit

>> No.43185503

>>43185440
She would need outside forces to "kill" Hinata. Nobuhime style

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>>43185410

>> No.43185511

>>43185406
the FPS cheating thingey didn't help either

>> No.43185515

>>43185429
A fool and his wealth are easily parted, bro.

>> No.43185519

>>43185333
>>43185417
Hat could use a little bit of ooomph but otherwise pretty good.

>> No.43185534

>>43185500
looks like french

>> No.43185537

Nice blogpost faggot

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>>43185417

>> No.43185555

>>43185440
siro and hinata will be in jp7 ala suisei style
i will not take my meds

>> No.43185554

>>43185410
bae will incline to the moon after her 3D sex debut

>> No.43185566

>>43185417
why would they give that outfit to someone trying to be a singer?
when is the context even to use it?

>> No.43185568

>>43185301
>our
psssh

>> No.43185571

>>43185555
That would make them Gen 0 members.

>> No.43185579

Jawohl, mein Chima!

>> No.43185588

>>43185515
That's such a poorfag thing to say

>> No.43185589

>>43185417
Her head is so wrong when her eyes are closed. Her face becomes only 25% of her skull

>> No.43185595

>>43185566
>they
As far as I know, Niji only paid for the first outfit, the rest is paid by the organ themselves. So Chima paid for this.

>> No.43185597

Havent been here for quite some time, everything seems to be normal. can i get deetz regarding to HoloEN3 or JP7?

I stopped after tempus 2nd roster was added. it's unbelievable how they willingly dropped the ball of ENgirls market. even moreso that of another potential foreign branch like Korea.

>> No.43185598

>>43185555
Siro is doing fine iirc.

>> No.43185601

So what’s the ETA on NijiEN finally winning a cripple gold? The only thing in the immediate future is Enna’s bday on the 20th. From what people said, retard fish is supposed to have an outfit in a couple days? But it falls on the same day as Ina 3D.

>> No.43185606

>>43185554
This, once everyone sees how good she is at dancing she's going to be giving pre-cull Gura a run for her money!

>> No.43185616

>>43185410
bae is already dead. her core fanbase only seems to get smaller. her paypigs are gone, and she's now regularly getting 2-3k on gaming streams. it'll only get worse from here.
kronii's dedicated fanbase is also dwindling, but at least she still has many gachis who will sc her like crazy

>> No.43185626

>>43185595
please tell me she plays RPGs or something at least... last I remember majority of her content was karaoke streams

>> No.43185633
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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1626174559585185792

>> No.43185641

>>43185597
EN3 will be the first Holo mixed gen

>> No.43185643

>>43185606
>dancing
the other anon said sex, only 3d sex will make her incline

>> No.43185648

>>43185626
she mostly does Karaoke and occasionally Minecraft with her friends. She is more a singer than gamer.

>> No.43185650

>>43185597
welcome back, Homo gen3 soon

>> No.43185654

>>43185597
still in speculation stage.
auditions went up again, so people are hoping that EN3 is ready and it's for EN4, but people are also doomposting that EN3 is only just getting started and will release late this year.
Either way JP7 is more likely to arrive first.

>> No.43185660

>>43185626
Singing, Minecraft, niji collabs and the very rare fotm game

>> No.43185662

Stop forcing Holoen timeloops, faggot.

>> No.43185664

>>43185230
That wacky antics in the ring lose to stone-cold reliability in the long run. Oh, and it also helps to have a monster locked in the closet for when you just need to KILL a motherfucker.

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>>43185601
>So what’s the ETA on NijiEN finally winning a cripple gold?
when milord returns from his aids treatment

>> No.43185670

>>43185626
She also play with my dick most of the time

>> No.43185671

>>43185410
>Bae doesn't really get much attention compared to other Council members for some reason

This has frustrated me for quite some time now and the theory I came up and stewed in my schizo head with was this: HoloEN's audience values Western meme proficiency and humor the most, over hard work, and even over other talents. Coincidentally, meme proficiency is something Bae is famously the weakest at (i.e. being a "zoomer normie").

Think about it, Gura was the breakout talent that skyrocketed Hololive (and arguably VTubing's) popularity in the West, and why was that? Probably because of her history with Western meme culture. Sure she's an amazing singer, and sure she's really good at being dumb and making it look funny, but I doubt that's what got her to the first 1 million subscribers (well, maybe the dumb and funny part helped too). For all the praise Ame gets for her creativity, Mori gets for her hard work and talent in music (well, personal tastes of course), Ina for her art skills, and Kiara for her ability to talk for hours on end, Gura ended up on the top for her sense of humor and culture.

When Council came, Kronii ended up leading the sub counts, presumably because of her design, but I'd wager it's to do with her deadpan and "doomer" sense of humor as well. I vaguely recall this being the reason my friend was a Gura and Kronii oshi. Nowadays Fauna's the fastest growing in EN, for what reason? I doubt it was her ASMR or gaming skills, but rather her witty sense of humor that somehow evaded the common eye.

Now I don't mean to downplay these sorts of talents, hell you can probably argue that humor and connection with the Westerm meme culture are probably the most important things you can have as a streamer to make playing Block Game for 6 hours entertaining for your Western audience. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't frustrated when I looked at R*ddit and saw more people praising Fauna for her Harambe reference than even noticing Bae's Akatsuki cover primarily because Harambe is such a shit meme like jesus christ. I don't mean to say that Bae isn't funny either, but IMO her gaming streams haven't really had her cracking jokes that well either until fairly recently where they've improved a lot (probably due to her needing to focus on games at first).

Regarding the lack of passionate Bae fans willing to go full KFP, I agree but I also don't mind having more sane-minded company. I would try and be that guy just because I'm already quite mentally ill judging by the length of this reply but I'm also quite busy with school and part-time.

>> No.43185674

>>43185332
Wasnt FPD Hinata already confirmed to be Botan , because Botan back then was in her circle, and when Botan left , she no longer played FPS? And the rrat also solidifies when her content was more on VODs

>> No.43185681

>>43185410
Bae is absolutely not growing, the opposite actually. The amount of dedicated bae watchers has only gotten smaller. Fauna is the only council that has grown her fanbase since debut. Mumei's fanbase has remained largly the same size despite inconsistency, while Kronii and Bae have been slowly declining.

>> No.43185687

>>43185566
I could swear I've seen some idol or K-pop groups use something similar, sans swords. I'm not gonna go searching now though.

>> No.43185691

>>43185410
>TLDR: Bae has similiarities to Mio, where they seem like they are lagging behind
Bae has NOTHING in common with Mio because Mio is not lagging behind pretty much since mid 2021, almost two full years ago.

Mio finished 2022 with the 9th (!) highest average of all Holo girls, trailing only the first army, Gura and Korone.

>> No.43185690

>>43185648
it's such a mismatch for her image... I guess she just liked the look

>> No.43185692

>>43185410
bae is dead, she panders to too many communities by now

>> No.43185695

>>43185626
She mostly plays minecraft. I'm not sure if she's ever played an rpg.

>> No.43185697

Stop fucking copy pasting blocks of text here.

>> No.43185703

>>43185179
Her tummy always hurts and she has an NTR fetish.

>> No.43185708

I ain't reading all that shit

>> No.43185707

Ollie 2k get!
You wouldn't believe her Apex mixed event tweet got 1 million view, mogging the all other recent Apex related event tweets from her.

>> No.43185706

>>43185664
You can't beat the basic, bro

>> No.43185720

>>43185464
Eh, still more tolerable than Kiara

>> No.43185721

Ollie is putting the Homo only part at the before the mixed part? lmao so desperate to advertise them

>> No.43185724

>>43185566
Uhhh anon do you memory-holed Suisei's battlemaid outfit?

>> No.43185730

>all you have to do to get (you)s now is to write a shitpost on bae (a 3k shitter)
pathetic, at least with fauna and mumei they had some months with respectable 10k ish medians consistently

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>>43185671
>>43185410

>> No.43185751

>>43185721
If she was desperate to advertise them, why did she put the girls only first?

>> No.43185760

>>43185724
Suisie has her suicopath and tryhard personality

>> No.43185769

>This much seething over bae
Literally don't care, council are irrelevant anyways and so is EN, except for mumei and gura, they're cute.

>> No.43185773

From my observations, the easiest way to get (you)s is to say Last Samurai

>> No.43185775

>>43185751
because timezones are bad for a lot of them

>> No.43185784

>>43185671
>and saw more people praising Fauna for her Harambe reference than even noticing Bae's Akatsuki cover
An entertainer MUST learn to play the strengths of the medium he's embedded even if it is not his "natural talent".
Hell, SPECIALLY if it is not his natural talent.

Failing to try to make up for their shortcomings with study and practice is the doom of any person trying to be great at anything.

>> No.43185812

>>43185775
The timezones are bad for a lot of tempus. That didn't stop her from putting them second and third

>> No.43185813

Another day another niji (virtualreal) yab rumao.

>> No.43185820

>>43185721
imagine how she'll feel if the girls only part gets the most views

>> No.43185822
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Koyo, Ichika, Haneru, and Patra

>> No.43185832

>>43185813
what happened this time

>> No.43185835

>>43185707
no worries the twitter trannies will defenitely watch the big event

>> No.43185840

>>43185820
She knows. Everyone knows

>> No.43185845

>>43185812
yeah, but those guys are desperate and would NEVER pass up a chance to leech of the girls even if it meant doing an all nighter

>> No.43185849

>>43185410
Welcome back, "Pomu has higher growth than Gura" anon.

>> No.43185850

>>43185730
These aren't even shitposts, they're serious posts straight out of Bae's split

>> No.43185854

>>43185822
what's this supposed to be?
are they in the game?
are they playing it together?
what am i looking at?

>> No.43185857

>>43185671
The west highly values meme culture, if you can’t tap into that or create memes then you’re dead in the water.

>> No.43185861

>>43185671
Lmao her akatsuki cover sucks bro of course a fucking harambe joke got more traction

>> No.43185864

>>43185707
Would be funny if one of the girls' POV beat the main POV

>> No.43185871

>>43185822
Get those bitches away from my oshi.

>> No.43185875

>>43185864
Towa has a chance

>> No.43185879

>>43185820
it actually depends because she said the members are allowed to stream their pov, so if a lot of the girls from the Holo only part stream, the main stream with ollie will get less viewers and the other stream might get more viewers because less or none of them decide to stream their pov

>> No.43185881

>>43185845
Ollie was the one that set the times, why would the this matter at all?

>> No.43185886

AZKi is going have a hard time in this overlap, and Bae will get the blame.

>> No.43185887

>>43185849
When was she supposed to have more subs than Myth? She hasn't even beaten Kiara yet.

>> No.43185895

KoroShion is breathing life to my shrivelled up heart

>> No.43185896

>>43185832
Your usual grooming fans, giving extra services offscreen to biggest paypigs, talking shit about other streamers including colleagues. This already happened a lot to vr and he is literally a 3 view so it's not gonna kill vr.

>> No.43185897

Bae should just play HL and dogwhistle right wingers like Pippa. Being a "based /ourgirl/" pickme is a proven method of eceleb incline and it's not like it could make things worse.

>> No.43185906

Kson made it to the top 10. In the next round, if she gets to be the runner up she will be one of the hostesses in the game, but if she wins the first place she will be one of the playable characters in Yakuza 8

>> No.43185908

>Bae
The reason for her stagnation is because she doesn't have a clear direction on what kind of niche would he be a part of and I genuinely believe she knows this as well. That's why you can see her trying out so many different things in the past few streams as well.
Honestly good on her for trying. I just hope that she wouldn't get discouraged for anything and just keep up doing something she enjoys. I quite like her newly friend game show. She's one of the few western women who actually gets what vtuber is supposed to be. She's just unlucky that Council is just a cursed gen.

>> No.43185912

>>43185881
>set the times
she would obviously ask all participants beforehand about availability at different times

>> No.43185914

>>43185588
Exhibit A https://www.ladbible.com/news/97-million-lotto-winner-went-bankrupt-eight-years-20220801

>> No.43185919

>>43185861
according to bae's fanbase every song and cover she puts out is a masterpiece, yet they consistently flop and fail to break a million most of the time. at least other fanbases admit it when their oshi doesn't have great covers (deadbeats, kfps, hoomans (especially them)) hell even kronies

>> No.43185922

>>43185897
You can never go wrong with a classic Valve game after all

>> No.43185926

>43185897
I know you're trolling but just for the record: Bae already gets better numbers than Pippa

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is there any way to save Haachama's numbers? she's pretty much ID-tier now...

>> No.43185932

>>43185886
AZKi hasn't had issues with overlap before.

>> No.43185934

>>43185897
its an incline when you are a 2-3view shitter in some indie company anon
doing things like that can kill you in the big leagues just look at zaion

>> No.43185952

>>43185912
She clearly didn't because Fauna accepted not realizing it was in the middle of the fucking night for her

>> No.43185963

>>43185929
Sometime Haachama feel like the relic of the EOP pandering era. Before Hololive I saw her EVERYWHERE on Reddit and basically EOP meme in general
But we’ll, EOP dropped her like a rock

>> No.43185966

>>43185926
For now. Again, her metrics are only reclining.

>> No.43185965

>metaverse
Test

>> No.43185967

>>43185912
So Ollie asked everyone and the girls wanted to go early. Then Ollie didn't manipulate the time to help the bois

>> No.43185968

>>43185929
haachama is a prime example of act like a niji get niji numbers

>> No.43185970

>>43185908
She’s not a gamer and she’s not strong at zatsu. I actually really enjoyed her persona series but she plays that like once every few weeks now.

>> No.43185971

>>43185908
Bae and Sana are responsible for the failure of council. Aussies are just not it. Shit on Kronii all you want but she brings more numbers to the table than Bae and Sana ever did despite barely trying.

>> No.43185976

>>43185919
>kfps
Has Kiara ever put out a true flop? Fpr soem reason it feels like her music does better than most holos, even JPs.

>> No.43185992

>>43185333
>>43185929
Stop samefagging. No one gives a shit about your "concern".

>> No.43186008

>>43185976
That one acoustic cover for hukes birthday

>> No.43186014

>>43185929
ENcull, unironically

>> No.43186019

>She's one of the few western women who actually gets what vtuber is supposed to be
Quite the opposite. That's SNO.

>> No.43186021

>>43185976
Depends what you mean. The term flop is in the eye of the beholder, much like the idea of someone being a "3k shitter" making six figures.

>> No.43186024

still funny to me that the only JP Ollie got for the mixed one was Towa lmao
without her it would not be a truly all branches mixed tournament

>> No.43186042

>>43186024
???? Anya is there

>> No.43186044

>>43186008
Oh yeah, that one. I even forgot that it existed.

>> No.43186045

>>43185929
Why would i watch haachama when mumei exists? Mumei is cuter and also does the schizo shit sometimes.
t. EOP

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>> No.43186052

>>43185929
Streaming is secondary for her so I doubt people would watch her regularly.
She still get a lot of gifted subs everytime she stream so she is still fine.

>> No.43186057

i like bae
shes a good girl
good girls will be bless maybe not today but somewhere in the near future.

>> No.43186059

>>43186024
Anon, tell me which JP would be interested in Apex, and then tell me which of them don’t mind collab with Stars

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>>43185992
I didn't even read the post above

>> No.43186084

>>43186021
I said "true flop" because her music does really good regardless. I only meant it in comparison to her own stuff.

>> No.43186087

Do you guys think that bili2 and anycolor boosted both salome, luxiem and event numbers artifically to boost IPO stocks?

>> No.43186089

>>43186049
>There's even a team with 0 (Zero) girls
Lmao

>> No.43186098

OLLIE HAS MERCH FOR THIS LOL

>> No.43186101

>>43186059
Fubuki or Matsuri

>> No.43186113

>>43186059
Fubuki, Matsuri, Roboco, Choco

>> No.43186114

>>43185641
That would be the biggest fumble ever in this niche. They had all the cards to conquer and seal the market forever, but they keep going outside their territory. the things that they aren't known for.
>>43185654
Alright. Thanks for the heads up

I know they're experimenting, but is there ever a rrat that they're intentionally doing this just so , because they want to strengthen Japan as their core? some stock shittery or something idk

>> No.43186125

>>43186024
Nigga Anya is there also

>> No.43186130

>>43186101
Right that make exactly THREE JP who would join and Apex tournament

>> No.43186135

>>43186059
Roboco, Choco, Fubuki and Matsuri

>> No.43186136

>>43186059
roboco fbk matsuri

>> No.43186137

>>43186024
Hell Towa had to rearrange her schedule to help Ollie out.

>> No.43186144

>>43186059
Fubuki, Matsuri, Suisei, RBC

>> No.43186145

>>43186098
it's her reward from management for shilling the homos and trying to break the boundaries between Hololive and Holostars

>> No.43186146

>>43185641
That sure works perfectly in nijiEN

>> No.43186167

>>43186113
Can't say I know much about Choco, but it sounds nearly impossible that she'd play on the mixed tourney considering how much of her content caters to gachis.

>> No.43186179

How much of a debuff does Haachama have to be to have Iroha, a girl who’s pretty much only known for MC and had somehow managed a solo 30k MC just a week or two ago, be sitting at 8k right now

>> No.43186184

>>43185908
Also unironically, play minecraft. Convince the rest of EN to play Minecraft. One of the reason of Hololive's massive incline to popularity is thanks to their Minecraft moments. Hell, ID's surge of popularity is because of HEY MOONA.
>>43185970
>not a gamer
Pekora and Subaru doesn't play video games before joinning Hololive and now they have the most entertaining gaming streams in all of livestreaming space. You just need to try.
>>43185971
>Sana
How can she incline if she doesn't stream?
>Bae
She needs to find her direction as an entertainer first. Knowing Hololive, she will find it. Just don't give up and keep interacting with other holomems (not Mori)

>> No.43186187

>>43186098
And all the money goes to Ollie obviously. Leech prime.

>> No.43186203

>>43186019
So Gura and her disciples. Hopefully there are at least 2 more in EN 3.

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>> No.43186210

>>43186179
Haachama screams a lot. It filters people.

>> No.43186214

>>43185906
I guess Yakuza franchise has been dying huh
RIP

>> No.43186221

>>43185641
Anon mixed gens dont work in cover since youd actually have to make not just a new branch but a new group as well

>> No.43186227

>>43185641
EN3 will be
Yuria
Miori
FallenShadow
Risotto
Random male no one has ever heard of

>> No.43186229

>>43186167
https://youtu.be/77GUoZvOTmE

>> No.43186230

>>43186167
Choco? The woman that talks about her dates? Gachikoi is not the same as unicorn

>> No.43186231

>>43186049
You shits keep making of ollie but this is legit her dream event she wanted to put on since debut. You got the teams so she not mixing unicorn girls with males so could you guys be a litttle bit more supportive to my oshi. She may not seem like it but she probably one of the holos that care the most about her fanbase to even a parasocial amount so please be supportive to my zombie wife.

>> No.43186262

>>43186179
She's boring and loud. Her jokes feel really forced

>> No.43186268

>>43185906
Why the fuck is this a thing at all?

>> No.43186269

>>43186227
>Rissoto
highly unlikely especially when anycolor would fuck you sideways the moment you make them lose money

>> No.43186275

>>43186203
gura really dislikes mumei nowadays and avoids mentioning her. something happened between them behind the scenes sometime late last year

>> No.43186280

>>43186019
SNO are twitchchuuba-lite. They don't understand what being a Holo entails. They don't have ambition, they don't strive, they don't form connections. They just coast and make excuses for being busy with non-Holo shit.

>> No.43186283

>>43186231
Nah, fuck this

>> No.43186285

>>43186231
>You shits keep making fun of ollie but this is legit her dream event she wanted to put on since debut
That in itself warrants making fun of her.

>> No.43186292

>>43186167
>Can't say I know much about Choco
You're right about that

>> No.43186302

>>43186184
>Minecraft
Like fuck, the management literally gave them the easiest way to incline by giving them an entirely new server to interact with some of the most popular vtubers in the existence. Build your own project, make your dent to the server, and at some point, organic interaction will happen and have some fucking fun.

>> No.43186306

>>43186231
What a worthless dream

>> No.43186313

>>43186231
Nice tumblr post retard

>> No.43186314

>>43186231
Oh shut the fuck up nigga. I have no reason to support Ollie, she is no better than random Twitch whore to me since at least some of them don’t play Apex

>> No.43186318

>>43186275
No nigga it's just that they all barely got to talk to each other with Gura being on her health break. She even said she didn't talk to Fauna much

>> No.43186320

>>43186231
Ollie is shit and her dream of changing idol culture is shit. Sooner that tournament is over and her leeching ass goes back to irrelevancy, the better.

>> No.43186322

>>43186184
Bae literally can’t focus on gaming and entertaining at the same time. Look at her MC streams. It works with persona cause it’s a fucking turn based rpg

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https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/kureijiollie_kureijiarcade

>> No.43186335

>>43186227
>Risotto
Please no, Mumei will have to go into hiding. I could see his wife try auditioning, but only if she's in the mood for a change of environment, since she's already very successful.

>> No.43186341

>>43186280
Fauna feels like the lets play youtubers from like 10 years ago but in vtuber form.
Gura feels like budget JP.
Mumei feels like she just doesn't give a shit and is only in for the money.

>> No.43186363

>>43185929
Unironically she can save herself whenever she wants to you all must be actually retarded to think fucking haachama dosent have the power to revitalize her carrier she just dosent want to she is focusing more on her college

>> No.43186367

is azki shadowbanned? i cant see her stream on my main page or even subscriptions that are live loll

>> No.43186380

>>43186275
nah that just them not talking due to gura's health break
this isnt nijisanji anon where a lot of livers dislike/distrust their co-workers especially after that kuzuha tweet

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>>43186101
>Fubuki
>>43186113
>Fubuki, Roboco, Choco
>>43186135
>Roboco, Choco, Fubuki
>>43186136
>roboco fbk
>>43186144
>Fubuki, RBC
What went wrong then?

>> No.43186404

>>43186231
I've disliked Ollie since predebut.

>> No.43186407

>>43185671
The majority likes shallow cute and funny memes. They watch more clips than streams and only remember debut era traits and relationships like SameAme and TakaMori. And that's fine. You can't expect everyone to be hardcore fans, and the point of HoloBox is to have something for everyone. As long as they don't disrupt our enjoyment, they are welcome to drop by whenever.
What really matters is how many real fans Bae has and how well she retains them. Kiara may seem to lag behind other Myths in numbers, but she has a lot of hardcore fans, at least when measured by superchats. Bae is kind of similar, except brats aren't as loud about it. Again, that's fine because the KFP way also attracts schizos and antis.
I think Bae is doing especially well on retention. I don't have statistics, but while some people don't even try Bae, I rarely hear about people dropping Bae. Once you get to know how genuine she is, it's hard not to root for her. Ironically, this is what idolfagging is really about, not whatever deranged unicorns think.

>> No.43186415

>>43186391
>What went wrong then?
good question actually

>> No.43186418

>>43186332
It's kinda boring merch. You can hide your powerlevel with the shirt, I guess

>> No.43186425

>>43186302
Even Watame playing alone during dead EU hours get 15k easily

>> No.43186432

>>43186332
Is this her 1m sub wish? I remember seeing some anon mention it before.

>> No.43186438

>>43186332
how many cocks did she suck to get this?

>> No.43186446

>>43186391
really makes you think, right?

>> No.43186450

>>43186332
This is literally a "I'm going to a live" merch what the fuck

>> No.43186451

>>43186391
>What went wrong then?
ollie

>> No.43186454

>>43185410
>>43185671
reddit posts.

>> No.43186456

>>43186391
>What went wrong then?
your birth

>> No.43186464

>>43186335
contrary to popular belief mumei has no problem with males. she's just terrified of her fanbase much like fauna

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WELL; thread is slow enough, it might be kenja time while people wait for Lamy lewds (no slipping?) and as people are talking about EN anyway, maybe it's a good time to post the "usual tables", starting with
** MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, KAIGAI, FEBRUARY FIRST FIFTEEN DAYS **
>Three (3) or more streams to be at this table

Some remarks (with regards to the median table unless mentioned otherwise)
1) Without Gura and with a debuffed Ina the EN market was left without their heaviest hitters. Kobo took #1 at both tables, boosted by her new outfit and eventful streams that followed granting her a 10k+ median
2) Mumei and Fauna complete the top 3
3) Ina and Mori complete the top 5, followed by IRyS and Kronii as the only channels with a 6k+ median this month so far
4) Mysta is the highest ranked NijiEN, with a 5.9k median, Luca and Vox are the next in line, and the only 3 NijiEN with a 5k+ median
5) The "Kiara Line" held strong, pinning not only all of NijiEN below it but also all of the Holo boys too
6) In a month so far peppered with collabs, Magni is the highest ranked Holostars EN with a 3.8k median, the only StarsEN ahead of the 3k mark. Gavin and Vesper follow, as the only other two above 2k.
7) Enna and Pomu are the highest ranked NjiEN girls, alternating positions between the median and the average table. Selen follows, and they're the only three NijiEN girls above a 3k median
8) Iofi is the lowest ranked Holo girl, with a 1.2k median. She still outranks Mika (sub 1k) and Kotoka, Scarle and Aia (the later two also on three digits)
9) Pippa continues outperforming her company and is very close to a 2k median right now. Tenma was added to the trackers and sits at a a 709 median, almost catching the lowest ranked NijiEN (Aster)

and the punchline
10) Two of the new Stars (Flayon and Shinri) are joining the infamous 3 views club, with an average closer to 900 Axel is quickly approaching, but maintains a good distance from the line with a 1.1k average

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>>43186363
This anon gets it.

>> No.43186481

>>43186231
>this is legit her dream event she wanted to put on since debut
That's the problem

>> No.43186483

>43185410
>43185671
>43186391
To be honest, you need to have a pretty high IQ to understand Hakos Baelz.

>> No.43186491

>>43186391
>>43186415
Too close to valentine's day. They may collab with males but they have sense. They know how their bread is buttered.

>> No.43186492

>>43186391
Just because they don't mind star collabs, it doesn't mean they want to do them

>> No.43186498

>nooooo you can't just blame bae for being condensed numbers poison
I can and I will

>> No.43186502

>>43186454
He took them straight out of /rrat/ actually

>> No.43186514

>>43186231
>my oshi
lmao

>> No.43186519

>>43186391
Imagine how many girls they would be able to gather if the host was any of the First Army

>> No.43186523

so why are >we blogposting about the rat today?

>> No.43186525

>>43186407
Your blogposts are making me anti bae tho, is that your plan?

>> No.43186535

>>43186464
>le invisible gun to their head

>> No.43186537

>>43186502
/rraddit/

>> No.43186546

>>43186467
>Nijien females still below the kiara line

>> No.43186549

>merch
>orisong
Did she really waste her 1 million wish on a fucking APEX TOURNAMENT?

>> No.43186554

>>43186464
No? She's just much more interested in hanging out with girls. It's part of why she joined hololive, after all.

>> No.43186565

>>43186407
You sitting in here and sperging about how Bae's a heckin good girl is making me want to anti her ngl.

>> No.43186585

So just to make this look even more embarrassing, should we compare this to KING Kuzuha PUBG cup?

>> No.43186592

>>43186519
>first army
>apex
>inviting homos

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>> No.43186602

>>43186525
>>43186565
oh its that easy? i should blogpost about holos a lot more

>> No.43186605

>>43186467
>Mumei
>Fauna
Bless their souls. Glad Gura is back, but those two carried EN hard these past few months

>> No.43186614

>>43186549
Orisong?

>> No.43186629

>>43186464
>she's just terrified of her fanbase much like fauna
kek This meme again

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>>43186614

>> No.43186661

is anyone besides Ollie promoting this tournament? Fauna didn't include it in her schedule

>> No.43186665

>>43186629
The classic sister, Troon redditbeggar cope. Instantly self identifies.

>> No.43186666

>>43186565
>>43186525
Anon it's literally someone taking posts out of a split, you know, what's usually a circlejerk. Don't think too much on it, he probably doesn't even like Bae and is purposely doing it to piss people off

>> No.43186667

>>43186585
>Comparing en to jp
Your point automatically becomes invalid the moment you had that thought

>> No.43186690

>>43185671
>Bae doesn't really get much attention compared to other Council members for some reason
Bae literally had Yagoo and several other JP members in her streams just some days ago. What's the last time some other Council had Yagoo himself in their stream?

>> No.43186692

>>43186464
Is it really that hard for you people to understand that many women dont want to work with men?

>> No.43186697

>>43186661
Fauna has talked about it. I'm not sure if she ever said why she didn't put it on her schedule, but she has mentioned it a couple times now on stream.

>> No.43186706

>>43186467
>no niji in the top 10 average
jesus that branch is a sinking ship, no wonder anycolor didnt want to waste their money on a concert that probably would have had made them lose money, add the fact that their branch is a drama machine might have made the cancellation a lot easier.

>> No.43186708

>>43186661
I know at least even one of the males didn't, so probably no.

>> No.43186716

>>43186592
I was talking about the girls side

>> No.43186727

>>43186656
Is this for the holo27? She was always part of "Zombie"

>> No.43186728

>>43185929
hack into youtube and uncull them

>> No.43186730

>>43186661
I don't have the hateboner for Ollie that a lot of people seem to, so I'll find it a little sad if this ends up not really being all that memorable or big a deal given all this. She's handled setting it up like a retard tho.

>> No.43186737
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43186737

Speaking of Yakuza, Koyori will be promoting it with Ichika, Haneru & Patra from 774 inc.
https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1624362616050139137

>> No.43186738

kobo looks like an ayy

>> No.43186739
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https://twitter.com/rin7914/status/1626204172482940929

>> No.43186745

>>43186716
it still wouldn't have made much difference

>> No.43186753

>>43186739
SEX

>> No.43186755

>>43186692
Homobeggar only have that logic left cause it’s one that cannot be proven by both side since you have to monitor their personal life to know for sure if it’s wrong

>> No.43186760

>>43186716
>first army
>apex

>> No.43186765

>Bae and Fauna bad
>Kiara and Mori good
Whos this retard Mythfag whos been trying to astroturf the past few days? It's really obvious

>> No.43186776

>>43186467
where is the entire vtuber list? come on anon...

>> No.43186777

>>43186391
Getting Haato-chan, Lui, and Nene to join the mixed part would have been a massive boon to the Hololive integration project. I don't remember Mel ever collabing with a star but she has been in collabs with males, but not recently.

Who'd Ollie need to make a mixed collab with to really integrate? Like be the rumble that causes the avalanche that changes hololive? Pekora/Marine/Miko?

>> No.43186788

>>43186727
No, for holo27 she's doing a cover, this is a new song made for the tournament

>> No.43186792

>>43186697
>but she has mentioned it a couple times now on stream.
kek, with one of her mentions being
>I don't even know how it's going to be

>> No.43186793

>>43186760
>Aqua
>Suisei
>Towa

>> No.43186806

>Lamy unironically mains Sana
>Botan playing Sana for stage 2 hard
What is gen 5’s fascination with her?

>> No.43186808

I don't think Reine took the hippocratic oath

>> No.43186813

>>43186760
I remember Pekora suddenly said she is interested in FPS again coincidentally after Ollie announce her tournament
This thread was literally creaming themselves at the prospect of Pekora hosting an Apex tournament and mog Ollie’s

>> No.43186812
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43186812

Wife is getting 5k points in Australia!

>> No.43186815

What the next big game that's gonna grab the EN chuubas by the balls?
It's clear Potter ain't it

>> No.43186820

>>43186765
i fucking hate mythtards they think their oshis are any better

>> No.43186833

>>43186793
>first army
>Aqua
>Towa

>> No.43186837

>>43186777
>Haato-chan
Nobody ever called her that.

>Who'd Ollie need to make a mixed collab with to really integrate?
David Blaine or other high profile magician and illusionist

>> No.43186836

>>43186788
Ok. Similar art style. Hopefully it's not a 1m wish and she is just using the tournament to help promote it

>> No.43186839

>>43186806
She's easy and good for clearing stage, you're reading way too much into this.

>> No.43186844

I thought EN collabs being number poison was a meme?

>> No.43186849

>>43186765
Not your hugbox shitling.

>> No.43186851

>>43186806
Sana is BIG

>> No.43186852

>>43186837
>Nobody ever called her that.
Matsuri does.

>> No.43186861

>>43186815
Atomic Heart

>> No.43186860

>>43186792
They like looking at browns

>> No.43186868

>>43186467
Faumei = the greatest pair in EN vtubing
Also, there's a dangerous chance of Gura concluding the month with less than 5 streams.

>> No.43186871

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDeCkOfFYPY
>20min
>usually already hit 15k
>still 8k
no fucking way you cant say EN is number poison

>> No.43186875

Occasional reminder that Mr. Koro > everybody else

>> No.43186876

>>43186849
Go back

>> No.43186882

>>43186806
She's one of the easiest girls to use but probably the most boring one also.

>> No.43186884

The EN really poisoned Azki's numbers huh

>> No.43186890

>>43186844
>Meme
I think Marine Kiara offcollab was only on par with MariFlare Cuphead lol

>> No.43186895

>>43186806
Kay's game design of Sana the character is more compelling then her whole career.

>> No.43186899

>>43186760
yeah imagine that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSnEueQttKg&t=0s

>> No.43186903

>>43186871
It should've clued you in when Gura made viewers leave in droves during the police stream

>> No.43186906

>>43186876
After you.

>> No.43186910

>>43186815
Gura want to play Atomic Heart

>> No.43186921

>>43186871
When will they learn?

>> No.43186938

Ollie just a typical twitch streamer but worse

>> No.43186943

>>43186808
Neither did I
I swapped to biomedical engineering in my third year

>> No.43186944

>>43186467
Kaela with a significantly higher median than Kiara despite having nearly triple the number of streams.

>> No.43186947

>>43186871
Australia map debuff.

>> No.43186948

>>43186903
Don’t dump it on Gura, it happened right after Baelz hop on. And it bleed in a constant rate since that moment, indicating that it wasn’t just people leaving after their oshi part is done

>> No.43186949
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>AZKi Geoguesser underperforming.
>The reason.
Guess being a Homostar lover only gets you this far.

>> No.43186956

>>43186921
Never. They like the EN ID girls

>> No.43186959
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>>43186833
Aqua is first army newfag

>> No.43186968

>>43186871
>Subaru stream reclined when EN showed up
uhh who was arguing?

>> No.43186969

>>43186231
what a shallow and worthless dream, no wonder ollie were down there the whole time

>> No.43186973

>>43186777
don't you have another misleading clip to make oboretei

>> No.43186976

PekoMari > Micomet

>> No.43186981

Now that I think about it, Ollie is exactly the embodiment of Homobeggar and Youtube comments in human form

>> No.43186984

>>43186871
Azki alone even with heavy overlap can still hit 15k easy

>> No.43186989

>>43186949
Yeah, the collab would get so much more numbers if it was Fauna instead amirite kek?

>> No.43186992

>>43186730
She's doing everything to make this tournament the biggest floop ever, for no particular reason

>> No.43187006

>>43186903
Clearly it was because of bae as evidenced from this collab?

>> No.43187008

>>43186959
Yeah, in 2020

>> No.43187012

>>43186788
That fucking retard should have revealed this during the initial announcement. Someone like me still wouldn't have watched it, but it certainly would have helped create a little bit more hype.

>> No.43187017

>>43186976
PekoMari = Micomet > PekoMiko > NoeMari > MariFure > NoeFure

>> No.43187020

>>43186968
They usually hurt themselves in their baiting when no one responds. It' fun to watch.

>> No.43187041

>>43187017
>Micomet
Trash.

>> No.43187045

>>43186910
>>43186861
Aren't people calling for a boycott for that game ala HL?

>> No.43187049

>>43186989
if fauna could speak Japanese, it would certainly

>> No.43187051

>>43185417
made in china

>> No.43187062

>>43186806
Sana had the biggest tits in all of Hololive, not only that , she was also chocolate. Losing her was a lost niche in Hololive. Unfortunate really.

>> No.43187063

>>43186976
Can you guys stop making fun of Ollie, I mean she is still young and learned about Hololive meme from YouTube and facebook. There's a room for her to learn, at tgis point you guys just have pure malicious instead of actual criticism

>> No.43187067

>>43186690
Her numbers certainly don't reflect that.

>> No.43187070

>>43186730
Her fault. If she just made the tournament holo girls only, she would've gotten most of the girls to join in and maybe have a real tournament
Instead, she tried to promote homos

>> No.43187075

Bae's obnoxious voice next to Azki's soothing one sucks

>> No.43187076

Is /#/ so bored that everyone just decides to be disingenuous and argue about retarded shit at the exact same time or are we just getting raided by discord to distract from a soon to be 16-0 record for holo vs niji

>> No.43187080

>>43187020
huh???

>> No.43187082

>>43186989
Unironically yes, partly because they will be guessing JP locations in that case

>> No.43187083

>>43186981
funny because i wanted to find a clip where she said she wanted to change hololive ways, but i found a clip of her doing vshojo x holoen begging, lmao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leC2IyytnOw

>> No.43187093

>>43185641
there's a limit to retardedness.

>> No.43187100

>>43186989
Fauna just does her own thing. She isn't interested in many JPs. She's not like bae who wants to connect with the JPs or Mumei who watches all holos for like 10 hours a day.

>> No.43187104

>>43187049
Delusional

>> No.43187105

Today I learn anew thing. Nijisanji only paid for their liver first new outfit. How about Cover?

>> No.43187112

>>43187045
The boycott only make the game stronger, because Jewlesky and his cuckraine bots can't do jackshit.

>> No.43187114

i keep thinking half life when i see HL

>> No.43187118

>>43186833
They are

>> No.43187120

>>43187063
It has been TWO years, she gets no more leeway after all the nonsense she's pulled.

>> No.43187121
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Miko lost most from slot change.
Botan overtook Shion
Haachama still dead last.

>> No.43187135

>>43186903
They started dropping when Bae appeared funnily enough.

>> No.43187153

mythfags in full force tonight

>> No.43187156

Guess 5ch's reaction to Bae was on the money, she must have really hurt her JOP mindshare.

>> No.43187157

>>43186145
>Rrat
Maybe the reason ollie make this shitty tournament is because management push her for it

>> No.43187162
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>>43187008
>first army (2020 ver.)
I miss the old days when doggo still considered first army......

>> No.43187163

>>43186206
>4th fes so far away
girl you are supposed to train months prior to it, not 1 week

>> No.43187167

>>43187120
Bro she only let herself get fingered on stream and tried to trick the girls into collabing with Stars, can't you look past those minor mistakes?

>> No.43187179
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>>43186467
And here is the
** MEDIAN OF PEAKS, GLOBAL, FEBRUARY FIRST FIFTEEN DAYS, TOP 50 **

1) Marine leads the month so far with a massive 42k+ median, in a month so far full of special streams and eventful ones
2) Toya and Pekora complete the Top 3, both with a 30k+ median.
3) Miko, Kuzuha complete the top 5, followed by Gaku completing the 20k+ club
4) Shion, Yashiro, AZKi and Mito complete the top 10
5) The top 50 has 25 Hololive channels (3 EN, 1 ID), 18 Nijisanji channels (0 EN), 4 VSPO and Gatchman, NeruMero and Shigure UI representing Indies
6) 32 channels are above a 10k median
7) Iroha is the highest ranked HoloX in a very strong month for her
8) Lauren is recovering from his 2022 woes and getting close to a 10k median
9) Along with Met, Ema, Nose and Hinano are also having a strong month so far

and the punchline
10) Salome ... she reclined all the way into the sub 9k region, trailing THIRTEEN (13) other Niji channels.

Will she find her footing or continue reclining? What can be done differently to break that fall?
What could have been done differently in the past?

>> No.43187181

>>43187105
Almost exactly the opposite with Cover. They always pay for new outfits, and only under extraordinary circumstances do they allow talents to commission their own.

>> No.43187185

>>43187153
Council member in a collab making numbers drop so they get shit on, suddenly called mythfags?

>> No.43187188

>>43187063
she really has to prove it then. Trying to appeal to western ecelebs is a death sentence for your branch. Thank god Moona picked up her fuckup and restore the Holoid brand.

>> No.43187191

>>43186231
Ollies dream back after her debut was organizing a big Minecraft event with everyone. "The whole Holofamily" and not just something with 15 Holostars and only like 5 girls.
https://youtu.be/iMEh9W8n2Oo?t=4227
>Yeah I wanna make like a Hololive bed wars but I'm still organizing and still thinking about how it should go because uh I want every Hololive member to be in it
https://youtu.be/iMEh9W8n2Oo?t=4513
>Like if possible I'd like to invite Holostars too into bed wars you know like the whole Holofamily playing bed wars like how chaotic would that be? It'd be really fun
Obviously this will never happen though.

>> No.43187194

>>43186425
>Even Watame
It's not like Watame is a shitter. She's mid/high-mid tier.

>> No.43187195

>>43187135
Gura has absolutely no pull of her own is what you sound like
Biggest vtuber in the world btw

>> No.43187197

>>43187156
I think the JP collabs actually hurt her. The JOPs realized that she just isn't entertaining and completely dropped her.

>> No.43187198

>>43186981
2 years late.

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>>43187179
SISTERS

>> No.43187208

Your en3 members will be

Adrianah lee, kiarakitty, neekolul, adept, justaminx

>> No.43187222

jp7 needs dark haired chuubas

>> No.43187231

Pekora would join in and collab with her brother Roberu

>> No.43187233

>>43187135
cope more mythtards gura is a number poison it should incline because shes the number 1 vtuber with 4m subs amirite?

>> No.43187239

>>43187208
>neekolul
faaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttt

>> No.43187242

>>43187105
"Official" outfits are covered by Cover. Personals are funded by the talents. It's unclear which outfits are official, though (like, the ones revealed in waves are like official, but those that dropped randomly like Lamy's just now? Probably not?).

>> No.43187245

>>43186661
Anya? she stream apex once and idk anymore. I'm happy that it's almost like the participant trying to make this tournament undetected and maybe just memoryhole this after it's over

>> No.43187248

>>43187197
That’s why being fluent in JP is almost always a debuff. JOPs only like it when they can’t understand them and it’s just cute noises, the same goes for EOPs who just like cute Japanese girl noises.

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can you fags shut up now

>> No.43187254

>>43187179
>Kobo is ahead of every single EN
EN ?

>> No.43187257

>>43187204
They cute, and so is the indie one. Has the latest Asagi sister followed the rest of them yet?

>> No.43187265

hi enna, you should tone down your salt intake, these levels can't be good for you

>> No.43187267

AzkiBae 10K getto

>> No.43187274

>>43187105
thats not true
if you are one of the big hitters then you get free outfits from niji

>> No.43187287

>>43187253
I know that in EN, 10K is enough to celebrate, but this is fucking dogshit for AZkI geoguesser

>> No.43187290

>>43187231
>brother
Huh?

>> No.43187292

>>43187179
Met in the top 15 woohoo this counts the Zs doesn't it

>> No.43187294

>>43186464
Mumei might be terrified of her fanbase (idk) but Fauna? Fauna is calculated and cunning. She knows what she is doing.

>> No.43187295

>>43187197
All Rrat really has going for her as a streamer is enthusiasm.

>> No.43187297

AZKi the Australian ZeroGuessr!

>> No.43187304
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43187304

0m in Australia my wife

>> No.43187308

>>43187265
gawk gawk gawk gawk gawk

>> No.43187311

>>43187253
she could get 20k solo

>> No.43187316

>>43187274
It’s always funny how they keep throwing outfits at kuzuha and he only uses them once and then goes back to his default

>> No.43187318

Unicornsisters like Ollie right?

>> No.43187320

>>43187179
>Fauna took back her place among HoloEN and Irys is out of top 50
This is a good month

>> No.43187322

>>43186661
When Mumei had her Valentine's Day karaoke she talked about all the collab streams she had planned for this week. She didn't mention the Apex tournament at all. She just mentioned Geoguessr with iofi and a collab with Haachama on Saturday.

>> No.43187329

>>43187105
If cover did the same then all holoID dont have this much outfit anon
Now you mention it, only mika has a new outfit, her genmate didnt

>> No.43187339

>>43187233
>It's another round of let's pretend Pekora didn't start right streaming as Gura appeared!
Please kill yourself you retarded shitposter. It's fine to say en reclined and that the newer JP viewers don't care so much about the other branches of Hololive, it's another to ignore obvious factors that can affect numbers.

>> No.43187341

>>43187105
isnt cover autistic with their IP so that everythign about it is only through them? also the "smoll" korone thing is apparently out of korone's pocket, and their autistic when she can use it as well.

>> No.43187352

>>43187179
>AZKi is at #9
I kneel, GeoGuessr

>> No.43187354
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>> No.43187357

>>43187121
PekoMiko Minecraft number have been very interesting to watch. Peko initially lost to Miko but her number keep ramping up and now the gap between them is the same as before, with Pekora on top and Miko stay where she is

>> No.43187371

>>43187008
that pic is from 2022 retard

>> No.43187381

>>43187322
mumei should collab more with higher tier holos to leech. i get that she's just a big holo fan and loves everyone but for her numbers sake she needs to stop bothering with the lower tiers

>> No.43187382

>>43186661
IRyS talked about it once when someone in chat asked her IIRC. Wouldn't call it promoting, though

>> No.43187391

>>43187242
Almost none have been "personal." Korone's dog form and Pekora's prisoner outfit are the only ones I can think of, on the top of my head. This one from Lamy is part of gen 5's latest "wave" as you put it, they're just not waiting for everyone's to be done before the rest can reveal theirs.

>> No.43187396

>>43187290
We used to meme about Roberu being Pekora’s brother for whatever reason

>> No.43187397

>>43187341
I mean, korone herself agreed with it though, and it makes sense given how Cover handles new outfits. It's also why Myth doesn't spam their smol versions either, even though they got more leeway with them due to having their 3d delayed for 2 fucking years.

>> No.43187400

>>43187292
It’s not possible to automatically remove it so, yeah… that’s why it didn’t get a honorable mention.
Let’s see the average chart, how she performs

>> No.43187404
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AZKi GeoGuessr peaks

>1st stream
14,898
>2nd stream
18,556
>3rd stream
24,340
>4th stream
24,817
>5th stream
22,237
>6th stream
17,855

>> No.43187418

i've been in here too much, i'm recognizing too many of you faggots

>> No.43187421

>>43186792
And the other mention being
>I accepted not knowing the time it was starting
And she clearly regrets accepting it

>> No.43187422

>>43186214
>>43186268
Yakuza having auditions for hostesses goes back like a decade

>> No.43187428

>>43187404
She was inclining but . . .

>> No.43187434

>>43187156
I honestly dont understand why cover hired her but then again we are talking about EN management who is shit. They also hired Sana and a boring streamer like Ina instead of Selen and Rosemi.

>> No.43187453

>>43187294
Mumei definitely isn't. She's been very clear, both in public and in members, that she loves hololive for the girls she gets to work with.

>> No.43187455

Bae is just too genuine for the HoloEn audience. The faker you are, the better.

>> No.43187457

>>43187434
Kill yourself, nijikek.

>> No.43187477

ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ

>> No.43187480

>>43187287
So what's the reason for JPs not to be tuning in? Because they're not guessing Japan? They're not speaking EN, and AZKi seems to be almost as good outside the country. Don't tell me it's because Bae's loud or something, she isn't acting crazy right now and anyway there are popular JPs just as loud as her.

>> No.43187492

Bae debuff is real

>> No.43187494

>>43187404
en debuff is real

>> No.43187501

>>43187480
>Because they're not guessing Japan
bingo

>> No.43187502

>>43187480
d) All the above

>> No.43187512

>>43187404
So this is gonna be the lowest right?

>> No.43187524

>>43187156
>Guess 5ch's reaction to Bae was on the money
Which was...?

>> No.43187523

>>43187480
>Not guessing Japan
That’s actually it. JPs can’t connect, and Aussies don’t exist.

>> No.43187525

Fauna doesn't care about the JPs but that just means she won't be able to be number poison to them which is a net positive compared to Bae

>> No.43187531

>>43187455
Then why is Mumei popular? When she tried to pretend she wasn't an autist and took meds, her numbers dropped and only recovered after she stopped faking being normal

>> No.43187534

Why is Bae sabotaging AZKis median? Is she jealous?

>> No.43187540

>>43187316
because kuzuha is smart
him using a new outfit as his default will kill his image if he does go back to being an indie

>> No.43187545

>>43187453
Of course she says that because her audience has an invisible gun to her head.

>> No.43187553

>>43187480
Yes, it's actually the JP buff
Mumei's geoguesser collab stream needed for them to go to Japan in order to reach 10k

>> No.43187556

>>43187525
If all you care about is number and not entertainment.

>> No.43187559

Rosemi, Pomu and Selen would all be a much better fit for holo than ina, bae and sana.

>> No.43187562

>>43185671
>HoloEN's audience values Western meme proficiency and humor the most, over hard work
You are naive. Any human normally values results over non-results. It does not matter if you are hardworking or not beyond the scenes. Just deliver results. In this case, deliver entertainment.
Of course many will appreciate hardwork. Many see its appeal. It is also a form of entertainment. But it will only become appealing if you get some attachment into the persona. And Bae's voice and personality filter viewers so hard, that the repulsion outweighs her appeal of hardwork.

>> No.43187564

it's almost like elevens don't care about anything but area eleven. but naw, that can't be it.

>> No.43187568

>>43187480
>Because they're not guessing Japan
Finally, someone got it. Nobody wants to fucking explore fucking Kangaroo Land

>> No.43187573

>>43187434
>Selen and Rosemi
Selen, Rosemi and Pomu in Holo would still give them numbers below the sana line anon
Theres a reason why theyre not in hololive and thats because theyre not entertaining enough

>> No.43187572

>>43187179
Shion First Army.

>> No.43187580

>>43187480
Nips are racist and xenophobic.

>> No.43187585

>>43187540
Remind me of how this thread used to be obsessed with how Pekora always use her default outfit

>> No.43187586

>>43187525
Bae only buffing stars

>> No.43187589

>>43187545
>invisible gun to her head
You jest, but plenty of people honestly believe this. It's absurd.

>> No.43187591

>Nijinnigers start madling again
>start holo vs holo again
Is there is another yabe today?

>> No.43187598

>>43185671
Bae doesn't really have any "thing" to call her own.

> Gura : Meme queen, stealth lewd jokes, generally funny, actual siren when singing
> Mori : Rap/Music in general
> Ina : Chill vibes, artist
> Kiara : Loud, Obnoxious, German to the core, resulting in a small dedicated fanbase
> Kronii : Doomer gf, "deep voice sexxx" etc.
> Mumei : Schizo/autistic gf, decent singer
> Irys : anime, not so stealth lewd jokes, gf next door
> Fauna : Mommy issues gf, good at minecraft, decent sense of humor
What does Bae have that's exclusively HERS?

>> No.43187604

>>43187556
Are you lost friend?

>> No.43187607

>>43187573
Complete bullshit but okay.

>> No.43187612

>>43187525
On some minecraft stream Fauna said she is watching Mio and Botan

>> No.43187615
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>AZKi channel
>can't break 11k
Bae is a debuff then? she should start doing the uwu shit Kiwawa does

>> No.43187620

>>43187179
>Salome ... she reclined all the way into the sub 9k region, trailing THIRTEEN (13) other Niji channels.
Reminder that nijifags said that Salome being a 10k liver is much better than being a 30-40k one since its what Anycolor wants.

>> No.43187625

>rosemi
lol
lmao even

>> No.43187629

>>43185871
Is your oshi the kiryu guy?

>> No.43187632

>>43187534
>tempus agent

>> No.43187640
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>> No.43187642

>>43187573
Retard. They would absolutely get bg numbers. What is the reason they are not in hololive? Nepotism hires and retarded management. They dont know shit about entertainment. Don't make me laugh. You are talking about people who thought tempus 2 was a good idea.

>> No.43187646

nijiniggers your too obvious

>> No.43187668

>>43187480
Everyone saying this are coping, Nene/Kiara did US/Spain, both being much weaker than AZkI/Bae and they got 14K+

>> No.43187670

>>43187598
>australian
well at least for now, and also because sana btfo'd

>> No.43187669

Is it always like this? This is the most blatant falseflagging I've seen in a while yet

>> No.43187678

>>43187598
Roberu's cock

>> No.43187676

>>43187598
Little sister vibes
Aussie
Enthusiasm
Baewatch
Unity

>> No.43187679

>>43187568
It doesn't help at all that Bae isn't familiar with her home country. Like at all. If she was even half an Azki it might be fun because she could talk about stuff that comes up. But she's a FOB azn suburb girl who wants to be Japanese. No cousins that live out near Seymour, no brother who did a stint at a sheep station in SA. Nothing interesting.

>> No.43187683

>>43187591
They lost both in EN and JP tally by double wamy

>> No.43187684

>>43187580
>Nips are normal and natural
ftfy

>> No.43187690

I dont like Ollie, and Nijiniggers interrupting our peace again, but i like You anon.

>> No.43187692

>>43187607
>>43187642
They are boring shitters anon, them changing companies would still make them boring shitters.

>> No.43187693

>>43187525
Watame, Mio, Botan, Noel, and Lamy aren't JPs now, apparently.

>> No.43187698

>>43187629
i think it's the kson fan that monitors the number thread to defend her whenever she gets brought up. which is weird, why care what anyone ironically or unironically says about your oshi in this thread, anyway.

>> No.43187706

>>43187646
talking about how holo debuffing other holo suddenly get called nijiniggers huh

>> No.43187711
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>>43186467
>Kobo took #1 at both tables
INDOCHAD?!?!?!?

>> No.43187717

>>43187642
Thats the thing
Selen, Rosemi and Pomu are so shit that even the retards that are tempoop are somehow much more tolerable than them

>> No.43187719

>>43187598
Everything you listed for Fauna is complete trash while Bae is a good hardworking girl who is ignorant to the world but still tries her best. She's also a Collab organizer when no one else wants to be.

>> No.43187721

>>43187692
We are comparing them to Ina, Sana and Bae anon.

>> No.43187723

>>43187179
You are counting pekora's failed stream?

>> No.43187728

>>43187531
He said "fake" but he meant "normie."

>> No.43187732

as an azkitomo i sincerely hope azki distances herself from bae after this disaster, she's hurting her incline

>> No.43187734

>>43187615
If they playing in Japan map then it's guarantee 20k.

>> No.43187738

>>43187598
Bae is an idol, not a streamer, it makes it really hard for her to connect with the internet audience when she is so heavily disconnected from pop culture. I guess you could say she's like Subaru in the sense that everything she plays/watches is her first time with that thing
Her talents on the stage will make her shine harder than any other though

>> No.43187739

>>43187668
Were they also being overlapped by over 100ks worth of ccv in other streams?

>> No.43187748

>>43187732
>azkitomo
kys

>> No.43187750

Bae is boring.

>> No.43187755

>>43187717
No they aren't! That is my entire point. Selen, Rosemi and Pomu are much more entertaining than Ina sana and Bae and would do much better in holo than those shitters.

>> No.43187756

>>43187711
>Indochad

>> No.43187762

>>43187642
>What is the reason they are not in hololive?
Because the standards for female entertainers in hololive is a lot higher than male ones. I mean sure if those threee applied to homostars they would be accepted by their standards but not hololive.

>> No.43187767

>>43187668
That was an earlier timeslot no?

>> No.43187773

Very organic posts itt

>> No.43187775

>>43187629
Yes! Yakuza is my favourite game series ever.

>> No.43187776

11K GETTO

>> No.43187784

>>43187738
>idol
holy kek

>> No.43187785

>>43187179
Pekora only have 15 stream though. Are you counting the one with technical issue?

>> No.43187787

>>43187739
Isn't that pretty normal in this timeslot though?

>> No.43187793

>>43187683
I want a Blue and Green paizuri. Shame no one's done fanart of that.

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i would like to convert this into usd

>> No.43187799

>>43186467
Hello, Table Anon. Thanks for your hard work. Is there an ID-only version of it? Or should I put the numbers manually again? I don't mind if that's the case. /warkop/ will have a new thread for the next ~20 hours from now. Thank you!

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>>43187732
>azkitomo

>> No.43187806

>>43187738
>idol

>> No.43187811

>>43187756
Nijiseethe

>> No.43187813

>>43187738
>idol

>> No.43187816

>>43187755
They are anon, theres a reason why the sana line exists and how they had a hard time trying to cross that line.
They are unironically boring shitters who would even be more boring in hololive especially with how reliant they are on their current kayfabe to stay relevant in niji.

>> No.43187830

>>43187723
There was a day with technical restarts, right? Usually only streams below or above a certain duration get “flagged” for manual review, how long they lasted?

>> No.43187836

>>43187784
>>43187806
>>43187813
You will NEVER be an idolfag no matter how hard you fake it

>> No.43187837

>>43187784
Roberu's idol cocksleeve.

>> No.43187838

>>43187738
Correction: she’s not disconnected from Pop Culture, she’s disconnected with 4 Chan culture. She can list off hundreds of anime and K-pop songs at the blink of a hat, but ask her what an image Macro is and she just give you a wide-eyed stare.

>> No.43187840

>>43187738
Too bad the streamer part comes first.

>> No.43187845
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My wife found the middle of nowhere, Australia!

>> No.43187847

>>43187721
Yes and they are more boring than Ina, Sana and Bae.
Why do you think they have shitty retention 80% of the time and peak 10-15 minutes into their stream?

>> No.43187854

>>43187762
>Because the standards for female entertainers in hololive is a lot higher than male ones.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anon for fucks sake, you are trying to defend the impossible here and just end up looking like a complete idiot. You are talking about a branch that has Ina and Bae in it. That had fucking Sana in it. Just stop. It's embarrassing. They have absolutely zero standards on who they hire except if they are friends with Omega.

>> No.43187867

>>43187738
>idol

>> No.43187868
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>>43187738
I genuinely can’t make satire for the rea thing anymore.
>GRIM?

>> No.43187871

>>43187836
? Why would I want to be that?

>> No.43187875

>>43187813
>>43187806
>>43187784
More of an idol than the green whore

>> No.43187886

What’s with this random Ina hate sprinkled in?

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nijidogs starting holo vs holo again

yawn time to leave this thread see ya later

>> No.43187916

>>43187854
see
>>43187847
Anon Ina Sana and Bae are shitters but nijien females are way below them on the entertainment scale
Why the hell did you think that Nijien was irrelevant before Luxiem came? Most of the girls are boring shitters who couldnt carry the branch on their own

>> No.43187918

>>43187799
> Is there an ID-only version of it?
Yes, using the list that was provided. I will post it at the end of the series

>> No.43187919

>>43187886
Whataboutism.

>> No.43187926

This is one of the most blatant holo vs holo attempts yet
The cord is here

>> No.43187929

Wolf Girl with You = Miosha? or do i need to get my ear checked

>> No.43187933

>>43187738
If she's an idol, then why did she keep doing the thing that an idol fan would dislike?

>> No.43187934

>>43187711
>Kobo's median without the kimono reveal is 8662
What a useless shitter

>> No.43187938

>>43187847
The most boring ENs are Mumei, Ina and Kronii.
Kronii makes up for it with sex voice.
Mumei and Ina make up for it by being cute.

>> No.43187940

>>43187875
No sane person would ever call Fauna an idol.

>> No.43187941

>>43187598
saying bruh like a retard

>> No.43187944

>>43187847
add mumei,kronii and fauna into that

>> No.43187948

>>43187676
>Little sister vibes
How much is the venn diagram overlap with the people who watch chuubas and people who have a zoomer little sister?
>Aussie
>Enthusiasm
There are chuubas that do this much better than her
>Baewatch
Not really sure what this is, I guess it's a planned stream or smth?
>Unity
uhhh
unityfags just watch Nijisanji...
and it's not like she does THAT many collabs with the stars either.

>> No.43187953

>>43187816
You are comparing their performance in niji. It would be completely different if they were in holo. You think sana would have the same numbers if she were in niji? Hell no. None of the girls even gura wouldnt have the same numebrs. They would all be shitters in niji. Your sana line is a cope. Cause in holo most niji girls would destroy it.

>> No.43187957

can we make fun of ollie again

>> No.43187964

>>43187933
What would you know about idol fans?

>> No.43187968

This Bae shiller is quite funny, unfortunately you can't win any argument in /#/ if your oshi has a 4k average

>> No.43187983

YAB Azki is viewing the place Japan bombed the shit out of in WW2

>> No.43187995

>>43187886
They're just throwing everything at the wall, hoping that at least one bait sticks. Soon they'll loop back to Gura, and repeat anew. Their allotted hour of internet will soon expire anyway.

>> No.43187993

>>43187847
See >>43187953

>> No.43187998

Is it possible that Geoguesser has lost its FOTM magic after the 7th stream in a row?

>> No.43188005

>>43187968
Nijinogs shouldn't try to throw stones from a glass house

>> No.43188010

Bae cripple gold again.

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>>43187711
Winning like always

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>>43187918
Nice. Thank you very much, Table Anon!

>> No.43188018

>>43187847
All 3 of those are less boring than Mumei anon.

>> No.43188028

>>43187847
No they aren't lmao stop coping faggot.
Bet you have never even watched them yet talk shit cause your a motherfucker.

>> No.43188046

>>43187953
They are perfoming in niji because they werent good enough for holo anon and it shows on how their graphs bleed like hell early on.
Shit like that isnt because of a company its because you are unentertaining to your audience and they are tuning out.

>> No.43188048

>>43187738
She's in HoloEN and by definition anyone in HoloEN are not idols.

>> No.43188051

>>43187964
Oh sure let the idol from a group famous for their female idols interact all they want with males, that'd be a success strategy

>> No.43188055

>>43188010
>AZKi Channel

>> No.43188063

>>43187847
Fauna is literally the most boring piece of shit but she has the Hololive label and no accent so she gets a pass

>> No.43188070

>>43188011
bro... that's thw polish flag

>> No.43188077

>>43188011
>FB_IMG
Kys seanignog

>> No.43188080

>>43187738
>Her talents on the stage will make her shine harder than any other though
For about 1 to 2 weeks.

>> No.43188079

>>43188051
>Saying this when Suisei, one of their biggest and most successful idols exists
Actual retard

>> No.43188086

Azki being better at navigation in a fucking Australia than Bea is extremely hilarious.

>> No.43188089

i remain unimpressed with this amount of seething.
You're gonna have to try harder

>> No.43188092

>>43188028
It's a well-documented fact that most NijiENs peak early in their streams, stuff like karaoke and tourneys excluded.

>> No.43188095

>>43188028
I did watch them early one when they debuted and they were basically discount holoen.
If they were actually entertaining or good they wouldnt have had to rely on luxiem for relevance.

>> No.43188106

>Tries bae
>doesn't work
>tries sana
>doesn't work
>tries kronii
>doesn't work
>tries ina
>doesn't work
>goes back to the old faithful mumei and fauna
>still doesn't work

you need to bring out the gura card now anon

top fucking kek

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My wife is so good!

>> No.43188121

>>43188070
At leasy say it's Monaco retard

>> No.43188123

>>43187755
>Be in /#/
>Make a claim
>Show no proof to backup claim

>> No.43188126

>>43188028
I like how the nijidog tries to shit on holos but absolutely starts screeching when facts are laid bare in his face

>> No.43188129

>>43187559
>>43187434
Sana was entertaining. Her problems were poor content choices, not having a drive for the work and being brown.

>> No.43188136

>>43188028
anon nijien streams are notorious for bleeding in 10 to 15 minutes in their stream most of the time in graphs
if they were actually good or entertaining people would not be tuning out that early in the first place

>> No.43188148

Please yagoo save versen sheep and put her in en3

>> No.43188154

>>43188046
>they werent good enough for holo anon
wdym? we already established that management is absolute shit. they are retards who dont know what they are doing most of the time. this is not an argument in your favour. hololive en management has no fucking idea who to hire thats why they hire friends of firends. how many times do i have to repeat this? the reason holo didnt hire pomu selen and rosemi is because of nepotism. not because they arent entertaining. ina wasnt even a streamer before holo and she is super boring. stop coping about "muh sana bae ina so entertaining omg" you stupid faggot. They aren't. And clearly if you watched rosemi pomu and selen you would know that they would be mucher better fit for holo than what we got.

>> No.43188158

>>43187525
Watame is going to fuck Fauna in a maid cafe.

>> No.43188166

how many chuubas have gotten over the brown debuff?

>> No.43188169

>>43187738
>muh idoru
So the same reason Sora is one of the company's biggest shitters? I guess JOPs also hate hard work and idols. It can't be the lack of entertainment value

>> No.43188171

I don't want to pick a side about Baelz being an idol or not. It is because I am confused about what idol means. I got too many definitions, many of which are contradictory.
Just what does an idol mean? Just performing for the fans? Does it include beyond-the-scenes effort? Does it mean doing the best to achieve a certain goal?

>> No.43188170

>>43188129
accent was a turn off as well.

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it's always funny how the premiers that get good numbers go fucking nowhere in the streams.

>> No.43188172

>>43188028
You dont even have to watch their streams to know that they are boring shitters though since even their own audience leaves early on in the streams.

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>>43186179
anon we're in overlap hell, and there's waaay too many other interesting streams going on

>> No.43188195

Only reason Bae made it into holo was her Japanese
That's it

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>>43187948
You don’t need a little sister to appreciate a little sister. In fact, that makes it even more potent.
And by Unity I mean actually being friends with JPs and ID holos. Kiara sort of does this, but only Nene seems to stand her these days. However everyone wants to hang out with Bae.

Baewatch is where she puts her VA skills to work, unlike Ouro.

>> No.43188196

>>43188086
AZKi has good directional skills and experience. Bae is basically a retarded zoomer.

>> No.43188201

>>43188092
>>43188136
why do you retard cling onto this bleeding early shit when it;s because they are in niji which caters to a different audience. Were they in holo they would have the same graphs other holos have. How can you not understand this? Are you all low IQ?

>> No.43188207

>>43188166
HoloID are all brown

>> No.43188212

>>43188171
Who the fuck is Baelz?

>> No.43188216

>>43188154
In this case management made the right call though. Hell even their own nijisanji audience finds them boring most of the time which is why their graphs peak early and then bleed.
Its a telling sign if a lot of your audience only stays for 10-15 minutes in your stream most of the time.

>> No.43188220

>>43188166
if we're talking holos than korone and maybe mumei depending on whether you're comparing with all of hololive or EN only

>> No.43188221

Migo joining VC KoroShion

>> No.43188223

>Seething about 2 redhead shitters
Roru rumao

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>Some are trying to spin the narrative that being a good performer serves as justification for being a bad streamer
It doesn't. The Pride of Hololive is an excellent entertainer while also being the #1 virtual idol.

>> No.43188224

>>43188171
Someone who's serious about doing their dancing reps in order to put a good performance on stage is the classic definition of an idol
Nowadays the definition has been stretched quite a bit

>> No.43188235

>>43188212
Suck my Baelz

>> No.43188237

I think it's genuinely retarded

>> No.43188245

>>43188079
Oh and surely bae also have all the other talents that suisei have? Hell give any other example other than suisei, she's an outlier at this point.

>> No.43188247

>>43188129
No she wasnt. Selen Pomu and Rosemi are all way more entertaining than she was stop kidding yourself lol.

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I'm going to post a single Shion

>> No.43188258

>>43188197
>but only Nene seems to stand her these days.
anon?

>> No.43188260

>>43187916
They’re still more entertaining than their male counterparts. Although the males in NijiEN are about as entertaining as a bag of sawdust dumped into your eyes.

>> No.43188261

>>43188195
No, she was nepo hired by Ollie

>> No.43188267

>>43188201
They are bleeding shit early because they are neither interesting nor entertaining. Its not a matter of corporation they would have the same shitty graph in holo.

>> No.43188271

>>43188225
Using Suisei as a comparison is unfair.

>> No.43188274

I just met a dude on OSRS named same-chan. I called him a delusional chumkek and he responded by saying "annoying rabbit" I s2g these cumsharts need to learn their place.

>> No.43188277

>>43188166
Doggo and Owl.

>> No.43188282

>>43188172
>>43188216
See >>43188201

>> No.43188283

>>43188196
AZKi clearly dealt with a “map and compass” pre ubiquitous GPS turn by turn navigation world.

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>>43188224
>>43188171
Unrelated reply, just want to mess with you guys

>> No.43188296

>>43188154
Who did they hire through nepotism?

>> No.43188304

>>43188129
>Sana was entertaining
Kek. Sana was debuff incarnation, that was only saved by having small but dedicated fanbase.
Her shit sub grow really showed how bad hire she was.

>> No.43188311

>>43188289
Reimu isn't human?

>> No.43188314

>>43188079
Suisei is purely professional about it. Bae, on the other hand, just can't live in a world where she doesn't collab with dudes every month.

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>>43187934
>Still comfortably mogging every single EN

>> No.43188323

>>43188267
That's a cope and you know it. If a boring streamer like fucking Ina doesn't bleed than certainly someone actually entertaining like Rosemi wouldn't either.

>> No.43188327

>>43188225
Suisei was a streamer that was a shit singer but improved.

Bae is a dancer that is a shit streamer but can and has improved.

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>> No.43188336

I dislike tempiss but objectively bettel is probably the best streamer to come out of holoen.

>> No.43188352

>>43186231
a dream that is going to be forgotten after one week

>> No.43188357

>>43188311
Beast spirit hijacked her body to defeat the accursed artificial idols oppressing them. Because only a real flesh and blood human can defeat mass produced "idols"

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matuli...

>> No.43188359

>>43188282
>>43188267
>>43188323
It doesnt matter what corpo you are in anon.
The fact that they cant even try to become entertaining or interesting to their current audience shows the amount of skill they have.
Even some of the smaller indie corpos have a better retention than nijien females.

>> No.43188367

>>43188336
>holoen
It's homoen retard

>> No.43188369

>>43188296
Ina and Sana newfag.

>> No.43188371

>>43188170
Fuck it, I can’t deny it. I love girls with Aussie accents. They sound so retarded. It’s cute. Now if only we can get some girls with Scottish accents. Heavy Scottish accents. Because shit dog, that shit makes my heart skip a beat at how adorably stupid they sound.

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>> No.43188385

>>43188336
Nice try sister

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https://twitter.com/chima_machita23/status/1626207969863139332?s=20
another nijisanji special: tweet is about to hit 20k likes, but let's see her peak for the actual reveal.

>> No.43188389

>>43188336
>holoen
go back

>> No.43188394

>>43188373
too big

>> No.43188393

>>43185854
it's a shill stream featuring those vtubers

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>> No.43188412

>>43188327
>shit streamer but can and has improved
Hmm the numbers don't seem to reflect that.

>> No.43188414

>>43188323
if rosemi was entertaining then she would have the early peak chart in the first place

>> No.43188425

>>43186231
>my oshi
I'm sorry that happened to you, bro. My condolences.

>> No.43188444

i thought shion would be a lolibaba but her voice...
just ain't it for me

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>> No.43188449

>>43188414
*she wouldnt have

>> No.43188459

>Miko - Reimu
>Pekora - Marisa
>Marine - Sanae
>Suisei - Sakuya
>Aqua - Youmu

>> No.43188461

>>43188447
Why is the image quality so shit?

>> No.43188465

>>43188359
Keep coping retard. You would member Rosemi at the first opportunity and gobble up all her streams like a beggar were she in holo. Her graphs would also incline. That is true for Selen and Rosemi as well. Hell even Elira. Bascially most of the girls. You are a delusional coping faggot if you deny the power of the blue dorito mark next to the vtuber. I mean fucking Fauna got 11K with minecraft. You cant tell me you actually think she's more entertaining than Pomu.

>> No.43188479

>>43187948
>>43187598
>>43185671
Bae is a zoomer and she brings a butch to en sphere. First the bridge that hololive to the stars by knowing about her. Second she has top 3 singing voices in hololive. Third she welcomed irys in when she was left by herself so a naturally born leader. Fourth she a excellent voice actor and one of the top in hololive . Fifth she brings her culture into en by not growing up like the rest of the girls she has unique interactions with them. Sixth she a zoomer and gives a cute kohai vibes as your the senpai. seventh she respects the idol culture and likes several holojp senpais and looks up to them.

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>> No.43188482

>>43188260
Nothing more boring or cringe than zoomer dudes. Which seems to be all that Anycolor and Cover recruit into their English branches.

>> No.43188489

>>43188327
Only Fauna has improved as a streamer in EN. The rest have recline as the numbers show.

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>>43188461
it was like that when I saw it.

>> No.43188502

>>43187838
When I watch Bae in collabs she is usually proclaiming about how she isn't following the conversation, or doesn't get a reference, adding nothing of value. Maybe she knows a lot of music but it doesn't make her taste any good or she would pick better songs to cover.

>> No.43188503

>>43188388
lol has someone on twitter ever questioned it?
im surprised no one is talking about it

>> No.43188504

>>43188459
Wrong.
>Miko - Marisa
>Pekora - Reimu
>Marine - Sanae
>Suisei - Sakuya
>Aqua - Youmu

>> No.43188511

I watched rosemi a few times, she's just a vanilla streamer like rbc.

>> No.43188512

>>43188323
>>43188465
isnt that more of a skill issue on rosemis part when she loses and bleeds viewers compared to ina?
kinda seems like for all the hype you are saying a lot of nijisanji fans feel that they are kinda mid and boring and it shows on the graphs.

>> No.43188542

>pomu
>entertaining
im sure her tits entertained some people

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>> No.43188555

>>43188465
You genuinely have some form of mental illness if you believe any of this shit. Also, Fauna is infinitely more entertaining than /b/omu.

>> No.43188556

>>43188504
>Miko the protagonist of Hololive
>Not Reimu
>Marisa the normal human born with no special talent like the rest, rising to power through pure skills
>Not Pekora

>> No.43188566

>>43188414
if fauna was in niji she would have an early peak chart as well.

>> No.43188567

>>43188465
>You cant tell me you actually think she's more entertaining than Pomu.
Yes
Graphs says that she is
The fact that they cant hold their audience most of the time attention seems like a skill issue on their part and not the blue dorito checkmark anon.

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my cute wife

>> No.43188573

>>43188511
Do you have any rum raisin streamers?

>> No.43188577

>>43188412
Towa and Luna was a 3view chuuba after they debuted. Yet they keep persisting and trying out a lot of stuffs until they found their groove. Now Towa is a 5views and Luna is on the path to become a consistent 5 views as well.
Iroha was struggling for Hololive standards because she doesn't have a distinctive features when you compare her to the rest of HoloX. And then they debut her 3D and now she sits comfortably in a 10k range as well. Holomems who keeps trying

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>> No.43188601

>>43188556
>Miko the protagonist of Hololive

>> No.43188608

>>43188542
8.5/10

>> No.43188609

>>43188465
i do.
i unironically truly think from the bottom of my anonymous heart, that fauna is a better entertainer than pomu.
what makes pomu entertaining for you, doesn't for me.
also, using "brue dorito" as an excuse is dumb as fuck.

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Not even a zoomer can ruin my wifes geoguessr streak!

>> No.43188614

>>43188566
niji wouldnt accept her in the first place since its not in their best interests.

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>> No.43188616

>>43188028
Selen's whole thing is that she has a contagious laugh.
Pomu used to be holo-lite in the early days, but now she just streams generic bullshit.
Neither of them are interesting from the 2-3 streams I watched.
Yes, even less than Sana's fucking Pokemon streams.

>> No.43188629

>>43188615
Disgusting

>> No.43188634

>>43188502
Watch any episode of Chadcast, or any of her other zatsus then because she’s usually leading the conversation on those. Unfortunately, she can’t play games and speak at the same time.

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Holy shit the rat hould graduate. She's making AZKi look like a shitter because of her retardation. Now I'm remembering the PekoBae Collab which got her 26k, damn Pekora was already too fucking powerful at the time. Also the leeching only got 34k without any overlap? Mighty kek.

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>> No.43188646

>>43188577
Bae doesn't try to improve, though.

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behold, the protagonist of hololive

>> No.43188662

>>43188502
Counterpoint
BaeRyS recent collab, ORK minecraft
She has very good banter with people she is comfortable with

>> No.43188664

>>43188577
>Iroha
Anon? She Started so well though until she spam ff14.

>> No.43188692

>>43188568
Faker.

>> No.43188697

>>43188512
I just explained pretty well that it isn't. Why are you ignoring what im saying and repeating the same retarded argument? Are you a bot?

>> No.43188702

Genuine question: did Bae PL (or even NotBae) ever gave any evidence that she can dance?
It’s more likely than not that that anon is shitposting but, well, is there any evidence of her dancing prowess?

>> No.43188703

Is this the thread where I hone my catalogposting skills?

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>>43188568
You just posted my cute daughter

>> No.43188708

>>43188646
How can you improve someone who is already perfect?

>> No.43188709

>>43188659
>Washed up dog
>Protagonist

>> No.43188718

>>43187738
Anon...
Watch Sora's Mocopi stream, or any Sora stream really.
Sora collabs with homos all the time, yet she is still considered idol prime. Because she fucking LOVES her fans, and it comes through from every single thing she says and does on every stream.
Bae does not have that level of attachment to her fans, and is the farthest fucking thing to an "idol".

>> No.43188720

>>43188637
>She's making AZKi look like a shitter
She's been perfectly capable of that for years without any help.

>> No.43188726

>>43185410
I mean, Kiara had the same strat, look at her now. The runt of HoloEN.

>> No.43188741

>>43188709
She’s Kakashi then, even better.

>> No.43188744

>>43188703
every bait gets bitten no matter how shit, so I'm not sure how effective it would be for training

>> No.43188746

>>43188697
And I just said that its not a company issue since indies and smaller corpos can retain their audience.
Its a skill issue on their part

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Behold, the antagonist of hololive

>> No.43188766

>>43188718
You positively know nothing about Bae if you think she doesn't love her fans

>> No.43188767

>>43188555
Keep coping faggot You would absoutely shit on fauna if she got into niji and defend Rosemi were she in holo. The fact that you lack self-awareness to see your own hipocrisy shows how low IQ you are.

>> No.43188768

>>43188708
Getting good numbers would be a good start.

>> No.43188777

>>43188556
>He doesn't know 's link with Reimu.

>> No.43188792

We like Bae in this thread even if she has bad numbers because she's in Hololive.

>> No.43188795

>>43188747
Thats Kronii bro.

>> No.43188798

>>43188697
Even Kawaii, Phase and Idol has better retention most of the time than Nijien females.
Its a skill issue.

>> No.43188811

>>43188720
And that's the issue. AZKi finally started crawling out of that hole, and the rrat is dragging her back in

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>> No.43188819

>>43188718
>all the time
No she doesn’t. Neither does Bae btw

>> No.43188830

>>43188744
Biting your own bait and claiming that other anons did it is hardly a win you think it is.

>> No.43188832

>>43188659
Not enough mainstream appeal. She's too niche to be the protag.

>> No.43188835

>>43188614
Doesn't matter. We are talking about hypothetical scenario here to illustrate the point that the company and agency you belong to determines when you peak, not your actual entertainment value.

>> No.43188845

>>43188792
I mean compared to the nijien female shitters yeah.

>> No.43188852

>>43187838
Dude she didn't know what Teen Titans is. I get being disconnected from 4chan or vidya culture but Bae is a little beyond that

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>>43188718

>> No.43188861

>>43188702
Yes there is
I don't wanna get banned though

>> No.43188878

>>43188718
Do you remember that Yagoo interview with some comedians? I remember hearing that's the first time Sora ever interacted with a homo

>> No.43188881

>>43188702
No.

>> No.43188883

>>43188798
Does any NijiEN talent have good retention though? Seems like a problem for the entire branch and not specifically one group.

>> No.43188894

>>43188646
I'm being completely unironic here. She actually does try to improve. She's trying to include herself and trying to participate in a lot of collab. Trust the process.
>>43188664
There were some sayings about Iroha when you compare her to the rest of HoloX
Chloe has her hostess experience, Koyori has her endurance stream, Lui has her connections to the rest of holomems, Laplus has her singing and dancing, while Iroha has nothing.

>> No.43188898

>>43188028
NTA, but I really wanted to give Elira a fair shake when watching her Xenoblade streams, but goddamn, she is so boring.

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>> No.43188902

>>43188795
Mori would be a better candidate.

>> No.43188905

bae was a mistake. genuinely just talentless

>> No.43188906

>>43187838
She's still disconnected from general internet pop culture outside of her immediate interests which is Korean/JP stuff. Many viewers don't relate to Seiyuufagging

>> No.43188912

>>43188659
Too much Ksuoge and Boomer games for protagonist.

>> No.43188917

>>43188856
Your whore needs to be drunk to say that kek.

>> No.43188926

>>43188835
>>43188798
Even Pippa has better retention. Its a skill issue on nijien females part they just cant be interesting enough to hold majority of their audiences.

>> No.43188932

>>43188852
Teen Titans wasn't a thing in Australia unless you had foxtel and even then barely.

>> No.43188930

>>43188830
I'm not the one post bait, retard. I've just been in this thread long enough to have seen the patterns. We're literally in the middle of a sperg battle because some shitposter has come in saying xyz chuubas are objectively better than abc.

>> No.43188939

>>43188702
She mentioned it in her debut, but no 3D proof yet

>> No.43188944

>>43188894
Iroha was nit struggling at the start. The one who struggle after debut hype was koyori and lui. Iroha's problem was self debuff

>> No.43188956

>>43188861
Just say one word present in the archived post that is unique enough not to land many results

>> No.43188960

>>43188567
Can you already stop with this stupid cope faggot?
>>43188746
It is a company issue. Early bleed comes particularly from being in nijisanji and i dont see any indies or other not bleding like you are saying either. Holos don't bleed until the 1 hour mark after they start bleeding too.

>> No.43188968

>>43188894
Hey. She's good at Minecraft.

>> No.43188971

There is an objective way to prove whether Selen or Pomu would have done well in Holo or not :
Both Pomu and Selen collabed with HoloEN members - Kiara, Mumei and Amelia and were exposed to the HoloEN box/fans.
So if they were entertaining, surely they would have inclined since those collabs right ?

>> No.43188972

rosemi should graduate and join VERSEn

>> No.43188979

>>43188811
Yes. AZKis streamer career is now doomed because of this stream. AZKi will never again see over 10K stream again. I bet even 5K will be hard to get, She should graduate at the top right now.

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>>43188171
>Just what does an idol mean?

>> No.43189001

>>43188798
>skill issue
>all nijis
you just contradicted yourself like the retard that you are.

>> No.43189005

>>43188932
Dude she didn't know who ROBIN is. I'm sure they had batman.

>> No.43189027

>>43188158
Based on Watame's description of their hugs it's gonna be Fauna who does the fucking.

>> No.43189033

>>43188898
Still better than Ina.

>> No.43189034

>>43188894
>She actually does try to improve
That's hard to buy.
Like sure, maybe from *her* perspective she's doing things that she thinks are efforts to improve.
But from where I stand, I have to ask if she's even aware she has problems that need to be addressed. Does she know she's a, let's say, subpar streamer, to put it nicely?

>> No.43189040

>>43188991
>Aqua
>Devotion
lmao

>> No.43189045

>>43189005
A better comparison would be her not knowing shit about Harry Potter given that was actually a global phenomenon and not an NA cable cartoon.

>> No.43189046

>>43188930
It’s mostly people biting their own baits. I don’t know how that’s considered so controversial. This place gets raided by discord fags a lot.

>> No.43189058

>>43188960
>Early bleed comes particularly from being in nijisanj
its rare in jp
its just the standards for the en branch were so low that they got shitters instead of entertainers which is why they bleed so bad in en.
pippa and phase dont bleed early on its a nijien problem

>> No.43189067

>>43189034
>But from where I stand
No one gives a shit where you stand on that issue.

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>> No.43189076

You fags are fucking retarded. Fauna is literally only relevant because of her being lucky enough to get into Holo. All she does is steal jokes constantly and pretends she gives a shit about videogames when her choices are also stolen from someone else

>> No.43189082

>>43189040
she likes the weapon a lot though

>> No.43189086

>>43188991
I want this Onyon back...

>> No.43189088

>>43188197
>and by Unity I mean actually being friends with JPs and ID holos
> Baewatch is where she puts her VA skills to work, unlike Ouro.
Uhh...
These aren't something that Bae can claim "exclusivity" to anon.
They are some things that she "does".
Not something that she "is".
I'll give you the sister part, but I'd also argue that Gura somewhat fills that role a little bit already.

>> No.43189094

>>43189046
And other threads that wanna samefag.

>> No.43189102

>>43188932
What kind of pop culture does Aussie have then?( or did they have 10 years ago?)

>> No.43189103

Where's the reddit spacing brat? Does your oshi fit the definition of an idol being brought by >>43188991?

>> No.43189108

>>43189076
She tries harder than bae get fucked brat

>> No.43189115

>>43189058
pomu, selen, and rosemi would peak late were they in holo and also are more entertaining than fauna, ina, sana, kiara and bae. You watch them through a rose-tinted glasses which skews your perception.

>> No.43189121

>>43189076
That’s fine. At least she knows what good to steal. Bae couldn’t steal a joke for her life.

>> No.43189120

>>43189001
>nijien only hiring shitters means that they have shitty retention due to most if not all of them being uninteresting and unentertaining
its not rocket science

>> No.43189128

>>43189076
Fauna is literally the strongest lamy

>> No.43189140

>>43189067
Very nice argument. It addresses the point I made and doesn't dodge the issue at all.

>> No.43189148

>>43187396
>for whatever reason
Wasn't that related to the Ollie-Bae stream where they made random relationship charts at the Holo Expo (or was it Crunchy's)?

>> No.43189149

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_hcTmkpuoA
ID GOLD

>> No.43189150

Bae is boring and should graduate.
t. hoodachi

>> No.43189155

>>43189076
They are watching through rose-tinted glasses which skews their perception. They lack IQ to understand hypotheticall concepts like Rosemi being in holo or fauna being in niji and how it would affect them and their watching experience.

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Wife is streaming

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>> No.43189165

>>43189115
Why did you ignore this ?
>>43188971

>> No.43189174

>>43189115
all 3 would still peak early on anon hell its the reason why they are in nijisanji in the first place
they have little to no standards when it comes to talent selection compared to holo

>> No.43189190

>>43189120
Holo EN hired shitters like Fauna, Ina, Sana and Bae. Your argument is invalid.

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nice thread about numbers

surprisingly there're no hoomans that took the bait

>> No.43189194

>>43189033
Nah, at least Ina tries to crack some jokes or saying something amusing regularly. Elira was just describing what was happening in the game with some anemic offtopic chat on the side, while staying completely silent during cutscenes.

>> No.43189204

>>43189140
No one gives a shit about your issues. This thread isn't about (you). Go cry to your mom about your issues. We are not your therapists.

>> No.43189207

>>43189115
>He says this when they havent inclined after being exposed to the holo box
Their form of "entertainment" is incompatible with hololive and is the reason for the early peaks.

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>> No.43189215

>>43185440
Fuma...

>> No.43189217

>>43188697
because you're not selling pomu, selen or rosemi that well
you're not posting clips of them because you know they're not funny and you'll get called out for your retarded humor sense that makes you watch them

>> No.43189218

>anon thinks sora and bae's love for their fans are anywhere close
sora started from fucking zero.
nothing.
she wouldn't be—
hell HOLOLIVE wouldn't be a thing if sora didn't get popular. it's because of her fans and hard worl that she's still here today.
Her love for her fans are genuine.
now go to bae, who joined the corpo and instantly got 100k subs + High views and CCC during her beginning. all she had to do was fill out an application and wait, and she was given success.
she could say
"i earned this myself, none of you guys helped me get into hololive"
but she isn't dumb enough to do so.
here love ain't even close to genuine, she's just trying to keep the 5 paypigs she has left on her leash.
>y-you don't know if it's actually genuine love
yeah sure fag you have to be blind to not see.
she would drop you for roberu dick at the drop of the hat kek

>> No.43189224

Very organic thread

>> No.43189225

Bae is on a stealth mission to collab on every JPs channel and lower their median thereby making EN look slightly better.

>> No.43189230

>>43189165
Maybe because you didnt reply directly faggot?
And that argument is retarded becaue they are still i niji. they need to be in holo for holobox to watch them retard. thats how it works.

>> No.43189233

>>43186231
> she probably one of the holos that care the most about her fanbase to even a parasocial amount
Wasn't there a yab that she did it on stream

>> No.43189234

>>43189190
They are shitters yes but nijien females are even lower on that scale
You know bleeding graphs and all that

>> No.43189235

>>43189149
>EN member collab buff
>ID channel debuff
I wouldn't be so optimistic anon

>> No.43189254

>>43189161
thanks for sharing the numbers, nice to see the doxfag seashitter in the dumpster

>> No.43189257

>>43186184
Pekora played many games on NND retarded newfag. I could literally go find you a Beyond Two Souls VOD but I'll let your retarded ass find it yourself.

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>> No.43189263

Pomu and selen i can agree but what's up with rosemi shill? The girl is super vanilla streamer, she is the rbc/aki of holo, sumire of vspo.

>> No.43189266

>>43189193
Goddamn sexy stoner owl

>> No.43189272
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>>43186467
graduate everyone below Fauna and Mumei

>> No.43189279

>>43189230
they were in the holobox during the collab but they never inclined because they are not just that entertaining
if they were they would have retained and even had a lot of holo fans jumping to them.

>> No.43189283

>>43189149
Sorry anon, even though I don't mind Yopi, she's numbers acid.

>> No.43189290

>>43189174
>they have little to no standards when it comes to talent selection compared to holo
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>compared to holo
>he says when holo hired sana, ina and bae
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
HOLY MOTHER OF COPES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A RETARDED FAGGOT!!!!

>> No.43189298

>>43189218
Go suck a dick for penny in some back alley since you can't stop thinking of cuck fantasies ESL-kun
I had a near stroke reading that shit, shame on you

>> No.43189304

>>43189193
mumei cute

>> No.43189307

>>43189283
>>43189235
I was just making a joke because this thread is a shitshow...

>> No.43189312

>>43189149
Nah. Kaela is playing Holocure.

>> No.43189337

>>43189194
Rosemi Pomu and Selen crack jokes all the time and are way more enthusiastic than ina

>> No.43189347

>>43189290
see
>>43189234
laugh all you want anon but the fact that they cant even retain their own audience which they currently cater too shows their skill when it comes to entertaining them.

>> No.43189349

What a gay thread

>> No.43189350

nave you ever thought about ignoring the bait?

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>>43188819

>> No.43189357

>>43189298
The least angry brat itt

>> No.43189365

>>43189233
Somebody tried to show the receipts by showing timestamps, but holy moly the descriptions are so forced that only the schizophrenics can come up with those descriptions.

>> No.43189383

>>43189298
hey man, im not one to say
>skill issue
but if you can't understand that...
i think you need to up your English skill by at least a few years

>> No.43189386

>ackshually nijis would be good if they were holos
How are you earnestly arguing against literal niji cope worth mockery and derision

>> No.43189394

>>43189207
>being exposed to holobox
that's not how it works retard
you literally are proof that being exposed doesnt do shit as yuo still woudlnt watch them becaue they arent in holo. not because of some delusional lack of entertainment from their side. You watch holo through a rose-tinted glasses and think they are more entertaining than they actually are becasue of the blue dorito mark next to their name. Taht's it. If Selen, Pomu or Rosemi were in holo under a different name with a different design with the holo mark to their name you would gobble up their shit like a hungry baby and never look back.

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i cant tell which sister state of seething is worse, them getting btfoed right now or when luxiem was getting decent numbers. with luxiem they just spam them getting 10ks and shit, but with this they are just constantly seething and making retarded hypotheticals.

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>>43189058
Bae does play into her strengths a bit more. She knows she can’t tell jokes, therefore she actively make herself the butt of ever joke. Her whole “Forget English” bit it entirety her own making, and that duolingo stream was her fueling it. Today, she knew full well she didn’t know shit about Australian geography, and played into the joke of AZKi showing her around. She well aware of what she’s good at and what she’s not.

>> No.43189408

>>43189290
and? they're still better than every nijien members, that's how bad nijien at hiring talent

>> No.43189409

>>43189290
i mean the fact that they chose ina sana and bae instead of pomu selen and rosemi kinda proves the point that they know what they are doing since selen rosemi and pomu are way below the kiara line

>> No.43189415

Is there a single day that Nijifags aren't seething??

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>>43189307
It's intern-kun's work hour

>> No.43189421

>>43189218
What you said is basically a gargantuan pile of shit that can be applied to any holo gen past yon-kisei

>> No.43189422

>>43189193
i'm busy watching okayu

>> No.43189426

So what did Kay Yu to do to piss Matsuri off? Why hasn't she touched Holocure since the update?

>> No.43189430

>Kobo mogging the entire en chuuba scene.....
I think kobo 3d debut will mog gura.

>> No.43189429

>>43189217
Post clips of Bae, Sana and Ina being entertaining .

>> No.43189435

>>43189386
I mean they would because they'd actually have management properly breathing down their necks.

>> No.43189452

Holyshit i just caught up on this thread, damn that is a lot of bae seethe. So much jealousy for such a small rat

>> No.43189458

HOLO
VERSUS
HOLO
IKZZZZZZZ

>> No.43189464

>>43189399
Baelz isn't even Australian, she's Chinese

>> No.43189465

>>43189234
See>>43188201

>> No.43189468

>>43189435
Less yabs wouldn't make Nijisanji worth watching

>> No.43189470

JWU, why are Nijisisters seething and coping this time?

>> No.43189475

>>43188766
Maybe deep inside her heart, but for an idol, that love naturally comes through in their demeanor.
Bae just doesn't have that intensity. She "likes" her fans, and appreciates their support, but it's not "love" in the way an idol loves her fans. That's waaay too intense for her, and she would probably even call it cringe.
She's a weeb idol larper aiming for a strawman ideal of what an idol is, she has no fucking clue why people flock to idols in the first place.

>> No.43189492

>>43189452
Pay closer attention, do you see that seething Pomu/selenfag?
Yeah

>> No.43189497

Honestly, pomu's streams have been getting boring lately and i been skipping more and more.

>> No.43189511

>>43189394
>yuo still woudlnt watch them becaue they arent in holo. not because of some delusional lack of entertainment from their side
Even nijien fans dont watch them or dip on their streams early on anon and i dont think any of them have the holo rose tinted glasses.
The fact that their own audience dips on them most of the time and the fact that the holo audience didnt cling on them shows how entertaining they are.
i mean sure you might see them as entertaining but from the looks of it you are in the minority even in your own company.

>> No.43189512

>>43189458
>Lazy EN whores
>Hololive
Good joke. Stop trying to ride JPs coattails ENfag

>> No.43189528

>>43189475
Oh shut the fuck up you retards praise Fauna and she genuinely doesn't give a shit about her fans, let alone love. She can't even being herself to fucking say it on Valentine's day of all days

>> No.43189532

So, only two will qualify for the cripple tally, and no bronze?

>> No.43189540

>>43189475
She certainly has more of a clue than most other people in her branch
Pandering to unicorns is not and has never been about being an idol

>> No.43189541

>>43189465
>cant retain the niji audience on regular days
>cant retain the holo audience during collabs
its a skill issue

>> No.43189543

>>43189408
>>43189409
Do you faggots even read the replies you get? Why are you repeating the same fucking argument all over again like a bot? It's already been debunked. Are you actually that retarded and behave like a mindless drone or is this some bot?

>> No.43189547

>>43189532
Absolute state of EN, yes. If only Bae was relevant enough to get 5k even under overlap.

>> No.43189569

>>43189528
>She can't even being herself to fucking say it on Valentine's day of all days
She did, I remember because I was compelled to say it back to her

>> No.43189576

>>43189528
and saplings don't call Fauna an "idol" either for the same reason.

>> No.43189582

>>43189543
>debunked
you havent debunked shit since they couldnt retain both holo and niji audience
its a skill issue on their part anon

>> No.43189586

>>43189257
she doesn't classify herself as a gaming streamer especially games like minecraft or MGS,

>> No.43189591

>>43189497
anon i told you that being a streamer who is known for only playing one game was not going to work out

>> No.43189598

>>43189541
>niji audience
roru roru rumao
get fauna into niji and see how she can retain the famous niji audeince
bring selen to holo while at it for comparison
it would be embarrassing for you, mindless drone.

>> No.43189597

>>43189576
Here's a (you)

>> No.43189602

>>43189257
Beyond Two Souls now that was a game

>> No.43189618

>>43189569
You can't even post proof

>> No.43189620

>>43189598
>bring selen to holo while at it for comparison
she was during the collabs and she didnt retain for shit

>> No.43189623

>>43185245
>Once EN males are good and LONG dead you'll only have people actually interested in entertaining left
So no one

>> No.43189625

>itt, retard's samefagging and arguing pointless nonsense

>> No.43189632

Since nijiniggers are raiding the thread, sell me on Rosemi. Does she collab with homos frequently?

>> No.43189635

>>43189582
See >>43188323

>> No.43189636

>>43189215
Is Fuma related to her?

>> No.43189649

>>43189602
I liked the part where you can offer to suck a guy's dick for money before the game backs you out of it.

>> No.43189651

>>43189102
I am absolutely certain that at least half this thread is just a gpt3 bot

>> No.43189657

>>43189543
anon. pomu, selen and rosemi had no talent at all. nijien was stupid hiring those girls

>> No.43189658

>>43188818
show me the way queen

>> No.43189660

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAr2lHZLNyU

>> No.43189662

Sisters were doing so good for a while and now it's full "muh blue dorito" meltdown. Amateur hour.

>> No.43189664

>>43189598
Its a skill issue anon no matter how much you spin it. The nijien females have had 2 years to try and retain their audience and they have failed while other corpos have succeeded.

>> No.43189669

>>43188926
NijiEN females borrow an uncomfortable amount of their audience from Luxiem who have the attention span of goldfish.

>> No.43189673

>>43189620
She is not in holo !!
Having a collab with a holo and being in holo are two different things, mindless drone.

>> No.43189676

>>43189547
Or hell, at least get 5k after receiving the funnel from Fauna entering SC reading.

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>>43189528
Mumei also didn't say i love you on valentine's day, but she appreciates her fans

>> No.43189683

>>43189618
>thinks the thread doesn't know

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>>43189193
I'm doing my JP reps. Bait or not I don't have much to add anyways.

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/#/ teaches me that having streams with early peaks shows a skill issue.
Therefore, we can deduce that Mumei is bad at Holocure, based on picrel.

>> No.43189696

>>43189669
They didn't use to, but ever since Luxiem blew up, yea...

>> No.43189698

>>43189676
She went into SC reading just as Fauna did, unfortunately. Fauna actually outlasted her stream.

>> No.43189704

>274 waiting for Kyoresu debut stream 6 hours away
Is it possible for her to make the cripple tally?

>> No.43189708

>>43189635
>>43189673
>>43188926
Its a skill issue since even people outside holo can retain their audience

>> No.43189712

>>43189620
Stop coping.
If selen was in hololive she would get better numbers than fauna. Collabs are meaningless as holodrones won't watch a niji anyways.

>> No.43189713

>>43188225
Suisei is a garbage dancer and only knows how to sing in one octave. Most overrated Holo in the entire company. In raw talent Risu, Kanata, and IRyS have her beat.

>> No.43189726

>>43189686
It wasn't a very interesting stream, just time attack autism. So yea, skill issue. Normal holocure would've been better.

>> No.43189736

>>43189713
Are you a Heimin?

>> No.43189742

>>43189696
I mean that's the only thing they could do at the time, leeching from males audience is kinda humiliating. but numbers is numbers

>> No.43189751

>>43189657
They are better streamers than Ina, Sana and Bae anon. Way better. Holo EN management was retarded to hire who they hired but then again it's nepotism so...

>> No.43189756

>>43189713
>IRyS
>talent

>> No.43189764

Why are the EN baits so bad right now? Nothing's happening and it isn't even EN hours.

>> No.43189771

only people who care about their fans is watame, kaela and (insert your favorite whore)
kaela doesn't "love" her fans but care enough to do her pejung somethingsomething and try to help them become better people.
she unironically does a bit of research to look up what she's discussing.
watame is cute. that alone shows enough care

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>>43189686
I mean yeah but thats nothing compared to a nijisanji bleed anon

>> No.43189782

>>43189726
I'll never forgive Kay Yu for nerfing Mumei and Broken Dreams on the day Moom decided to stream

>> No.43189789

>>43189764
>30 Niji streaming right now
>The sisters don't like any of them

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>>43189764
>Nothing's happening and it isn't even EN hours.
As if EN hours matter when it's SEA time.

>> No.43189792

>>43189704
2k-3k probably

>> No.43189802

>>43189664
It is everything BUT a skill issue anon. Fauna. Ina, Sana and Bae are proof of it. If yo are in holo you are set for life. doesnt matter if you are entertaining or not. The reason why niji's bleed early compared to holos is only because of the agency they belong to. Were Selen, Pomu and Rosemi in holo they would get much better numebrs tha Ina Sana and Bae becaue they are more entertaining BUT because of drone-like mentality of the fanbase and rose-tinted glasses you are unable to comprehend this.

>> No.43189803

>>43189712
its not a company issue since people outside holo can retain their audience like pippa
its a skill issue

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>>43189713
seethe. She's more successful than your oshi.

>> No.43189812

>>43189764
Sorry, the "Tempus is stealing NijiEN's audience" meme accidentally mind broke the sisters.

>> No.43189834

>>43189802
>>43189803
Them being in hololive or even in any other agency would not stop them from bleeding viewers early on
Maybe if they became 2views theyd have good retention

>> No.43189837

>>43189713
The nice thing about this kind of bait is that it doesn't even matter whether it contains a slick of truth. Suisei is still the #1 virtual idol. If one tries to say that it isn't through skill, they're simply saying that it is through charisma.

>> No.43189842

>>43189708
It's a being in niji with 200 other streamers issue.

>> No.43189852

>>43189756
IRyS is unironically the textbook definition of a savant. Shes self taught with no formal training. Suisei trained and struggled as a literal who for years with no results.

>> No.43189855

>>43189751
kek, this is the funniest shit I've read from nijikek

>> No.43189862

>>43189713
>bae topic slowing down
>shitting on pomu and selen going up
One new bait going up! >>43189420

>> No.43189869

>>43189803
See>>43189842

>>43189834
It absolutely would. 100%. If fauna or ina dont bleed then rosemi or selen 100% wouldnt either. Stop being a delusional drone.

>> No.43189872

>>43189704
No

>> No.43189887

>>43189842
NijiCN has basically 0 overlap with NijiJP so you can't bring up the 200 other streamers bullshit.

>> No.43189894

>>43189842
No it isn't because there have been days, especually recently, where there's only one Niji streaming for a full hour or two and it still happens

>> No.43189898

Can we get HoloKR already

>> No.43189906

>>43189855
Didn't know drones had nerves to laugh.

>> No.43189914

>>43188944
>Iroha's problem was self debuff
That and actually not being very bright. When she did something stupid people thought she was insulting her senpai, when she's in fact just pretty dumb.

>> No.43189924

>>43189898
Then offload Altroon and all the others into it? Yes please.

>> No.43189925

What’s our cope to prepare in case Ina’s 3d fails to beat ID?

>> No.43189941

>>43189869
>NijiJP audience
>overlapping with Nijien
ruru
its 100% a skill issue anon stop being a delusional rose/dragoon/pomudachi
you find your oshi entertaining but that doesnt change the fact that you are in the minority even in your own company

>> No.43189953

>>43189751
Most people still remember Sana fondly to this day, while probably no one will remember who Rosemi was a month after her graduation.

>> No.43189962

>>43189898
Cover has probably already dropped the ball with that one. They missed the perfect timing and now would just get scraps. Dunno if they'd even be as popular as ID.

>> No.43189966

>>43189894
The only reason someone as boring as Bae or Ina doesn't bleed early on is the holobox. They are not entertaining on their own merit. Were they in niji they would bleed more than Rosemi or Selen. Were Selen in holo she would incline like crazy and probably be the most popular streamer considering Gura is a faggot who desont want to stream anymore.

>> No.43189981

Gura loves her fans.
everyone else in EN tolerates them.
she said she's dancing for ME. then she said for her, but then she said MOSTLY ME. then she said it was for the both of us.

>> No.43189984

Funny how they called them holodrones when nijifags have been posting on how the only thing that matters is for riku and the investors to gain money and everything else is irrelevant in the past few months.

>> No.43189985

>>43189925
we can always fall back on the timezone cope

>> No.43190002

Well before she was draggin Bae's dead weight around, i'm glad AZKi finally got some good numbers and a chance to win new fans who previously just knew her as an old singer and ignored her.

>> No.43190009

>>43189941
They only bleed becasue they are in niji
It;s not a skill issue stop coping takodachi. Your oshi would perish in nijisanji.
>>43189953
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Sanallite please....

>> No.43190013

>>43189966
People will never agree with a sister that shits on holos, just fuck off with your delusions and watch streams.

>> No.43190016

>>43189966
Selen, Rosemi and Pomu would still be shitters even in hololive anon
Its a skill issue

>> No.43190018

>>43189906
yeah, nijikek is too stupid to know anything

>> No.43190034

>>43189771
I appreciate that Watame is close to her fans without doing cringey, fake relationship type pandering.

>> No.43190040

its been over 2 weeks, where's Millie?

>> No.43190056

>>43189925
I mean, it will. She hasn't hyped it at all. Hasn't tell if there are quests and who they might be and it's far from her usual slot.

>> No.43190057

>>43190009
>They only bleed becasue they are in niji
Yes and they are in niji because they arent good enough to be in hololive

>> No.43190060

>>43189898
I rather they have HoloEU first so EU fags stfu already. They will probably get less numbers than ID but who cares as long as EU stfu.

>> No.43190062

>>43189802
We already heard your piece but you kept repeating it multiple times. Some are not convinced. Why not leave them alone and agree to disagree. Or do you really want to force everyone to take your position?
I am sorry but your crusade is pointless because we have no material way to prove or disprove your point.

>> No.43190065

>>43188767
Hypocrisy not hipocrisy, you need work on your vocabulary. Reard

>> No.43190066

I don't know who's worse, Fauna for being a slimy person who's taking advantage of the mentally ill or her mentally ill fans who don't realize they could do better than her. She is an awful human being who actively pretends she cares to manipulate her fans. "oh I HAVE to stream on Christmas/New Years/Valentine's in order to pretend I'm not getting fucked!" Or "oh I'm just going to ignore Holostars mentions even though my chat cares for them because of the 1% of paypigs I can't afford to piss off!" It's absolutely pathetic and sad. She doesn't care, she'll never care, but she'll say it over and over to overcompensate for that fact and to convince her audience she does. Even fucking Kronii cares more than Fauna does about her audience. Yet the person who genuinely cares gets routine fucked over because she has a bad accent. It's really really fucked.

>> No.43190068

>>43189764
i mean during these hours, back when luxiem was competitive, there would be "insert luxiem 10k, holokek status?" spam, so it's kinda telling who is doing these retarded ass baits

>> No.43190075

>>43190016
apparently a lot of people actually have taste, that's why they didn't watch those three KEK

>> No.43190079

>>43190040
She will be back after Laplus

>> No.43190087

>>43190016
>this level of cope
>if we have ina and bae - absolute boring shitters not bleeding in holo
>he thinks someone as entertaining as rosemi pomu or selen would still bleed in holo
roru roru
rumao

>> No.43190092

>>43189985
>EN is the bigger market, unlike an aging and dying island nation.
>Ah en 3d debuts are not on jp prime time, how can the jop boost our numbers? Ahhhhh

The duality of #.

>> No.43190102

>>43190062
>I am sorry but your crusade is pointless because we have no material way to prove or disprove your point.
The graph shows nijien bleeding viewers 80% of the time early on so its a damning evidence of their entertainment value.

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>>43190066
>oh I'm just going to ignore Holostars mentions
FAUNA I KNEEL!
>I LOVE FAUNA-CHAN!

>> No.43190117

>>43190060
Almost all the fucking euros I know watch JPs archives. If Kiara isn't indication that Euros don't want to watch EU chuubas I don't know what is.

>> No.43190120

>>43190060
just put 2 or 3 EUs on en3

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>>43190068
I'm glad this happened, they've been silent ever since

>> No.43190128

>>43190092
EN is the bigger POTENTIAL market, unfortunately no EN can actually bank on that potential except Gura.

>> No.43190138

>>43190066
Hi shondo! Are you a /here/ regular too?

>> No.43190161

>>43190087
Its a skill issue anon its the reason why they havent become bigger than holoen or why even pippa is starting to mogg them in numbers.

>> No.43190168

Hey graph anon.. Is NijiEN still reclining or finally fond their floor and stabilized?

>> No.43190172

>>43190128
>bigger POTENTIAL market
what a meme

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>>43190128
>except Gura
Should be even Gura at this point.

>> No.43190176

>>43190103
Fauna is easiest EN chuuba to kneel to

>> No.43190177

why all this pent up anger?
just jerk off and release all that energy.

>> No.43190189

>>43190125
Nijisis broke that day.

>> No.43190202

>>43190125
i mean you see this in this very thread arguing about hypotheticals, which is funny because they hated hypotheticals when i brought up what if millie didnt save fulgur and he graduated.

>> No.43190208

Council killed the EN market by hyping themselves up as gods and proving they were anything but.

>> No.43190215

>>43190177
Anon seems unable to accept the fact that only a small number of people find nijien females entertaining

>> No.43190220

Watamage just told me that either Selen, Rosemi or Pomu will be involved in a yab very soon. Trust the plan.

>> No.43190222

>>43190174
>stream less
>gain less video views
wow who could have guessed?

>> No.43190229

>>43190161
the only reason holo en is bigger is because of holo jp paving the perfect way for them.
stop coping and trying to take credit for something that isnt yours. were nijis in holo the roles would swap. It;s not a skil issue as some nijis are better streamers than most holos yet they get worse numebrs purely because they are in niji - the anti-female agency.

>> No.43190238

>>43190208
Omega, it's your fault

>> No.43190245

>>43190138
Nah Shondo and Fauna made up she wouldn't do this now.

>> No.43190249

>>43190222
Is the implication that someday she will stream more? Do you really believe it?

>> No.43190250

>>43190208
>hyping themselves up as gods
When did they do that?

>> No.43190256

>>43190176
She has done nothing kneel worthy because she doesn't do anything. She does nothing for the HoloEN brand

>> No.43190261
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43190261

> b2 "listeners"
let discuss some numbers instead of timeloop

>> No.43190267

>>43190125
Remember all the coping about how Salome would outgrow Gura too? God that was funny.

>> No.43190274

>>43189679
Cute!

>> No.43190281

>>43190177
Anon finds it hard to comprehend that some holos are only popular because of the agency they belong to.

>> No.43190282 [DELETED] 

>>43190189
https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1626231323903012864
Fat onyon... I hope her chest grew a size again.

>> No.43190284

>>43190250
lore

>> No.43190287
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43190287

Reminder to every delusional nijikek: you don't know anything retard

>> No.43190300

>>43190229
It is a 100% skill issue anon
If they were actually entertaining they would have bigger numbers which would make anycolor focus on them more.

>> No.43190303

说点不好听的,如果我们失去了盔甲,那我们将没有软肋。
现在我们有主播看,有直播追,所以一再忍让,因为阿夸在管着我们,让crew们无视仇恨,忽视伤害,不要争吵,但是如果夸因为这些仇恨和伤害,因为一再恶化的舆论环境隐退、毕业了呢?
我们有了大把时间,可以披上匿名的ID去四处传播流言,可以给其他主播如法炮制几套九宫格黑料,可以恶剪一些断章取义的切片引导负面舆论,可以当个拱火拉踩的乐子人,可以去当个听风就是雨的求瓜路人,可以去放大审判每一句无心之言,可以去吐一口踩一脚每一个人,可以翻到蓝鸟上辱骂攻击,对你们喜欢的主播贴脸DT,P遗照,炸tag……哦,我们还可以毫无忌惮的混进空间列表、贴吧、nga、s1、某音、某书、厕所里,肆无忌惮地散发恶意,带着侮辱性黑称,参加每一场弑神狂欢。
当你过来解释时,我会轻飘飘的回一句,“X奴别洗了,她好恶心啊。”
我可以去做一个高枕无忧的作乱者、一个唯恐不乱的跟风者、一个是非不分的偏听者,看澄清者坠入深渊,看受害者百口莫辩。多么快活。
爱是束缚,我管好我自己,不意味着我们的沉默温驯是被屠杀的理由。
恶会反噬,未来的某一天,屠刀也将落到心怀叵测之人头上。
希望每个v友都能善良一点。

I am just bored and start browsing some holocopypastas.

>> No.43190305

>>43190229
kek

>> No.43190311

>>43190249
depends on if she can sort out her health shit I suppose.

>> No.43190312

>>43189962
They opened a cafe in Seoul and it was very crowded, no doubt they will be more successful than the ID branch. They never even considered opening hololive related stuff in Jakarta

>> No.43190323

https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1626231323903012864
Fat onyon... I hope her chest grew a size again.

>> No.43190324

>>43190261
Show me Ace Taffy.

>> No.43190327

>>43190249
Yeah, why not?

>> No.43190330

>>43190303
Translate it you mong

>> No.43190333

>>43190284
You think Council girls wrote that?

>> No.43190334

>>43190256
weird that people kneel then, makes it seem like you're wrong

>> No.43190343

>>43190249
yes

>> No.43190353

>>43190229
>the only reason holo en is bigger is because of holo jp paving the perfect way for them.
How come luxiem became big even though Nijijp didnt pave the way for them?
How come Nijien Females was nothing before them?
How come Nijien Females is now nothing without them?
Its a skill issue anon

>> No.43190373

>>43190168
Not graph anon but from last thread. NijiEN slowly showing their floor and probably will bounce back stronger after all the livers going back from vacation. Exoect them to get into regular cripple tally and probably Vox will likely to bounce back to regular 6-9k CCV

>> No.43190377

>>43190333
probably omegatroon

>> No.43190381

>>43190303
cool

>> No.43190388

>>43190066
>She is an awful human being who actively pretends she cares to manipulate her fans.
And I wouldn't have it any other way!

>> No.43190391

>>43190300
>what is company culture
retard. Niji is known to be male focused and shoving their female streamers to the side. Many female vtubers from niji have complained about how they are being treated. It;s completely NOT a skil issue but an agnecy problem. Stop coping. You sound like a parrot.

>> No.43190405

>>43190303
Actually a chad mindset.

>> No.43190411

Oh anyway another tiktok deal for HoloFes

>> No.43190421

>>43190353
Zhang fujos.

>> No.43190420

>>43190066
Manipulate her fans how? Into being entertained?

>> No.43190428
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>>43190281
retention isnt an agency thing anon otherwise we wouldnt see it on other corpos like phase, kawai, idol. hell even fucking verse has better retention than nijien.
Its either nijien are just unentertaining or uninteresting people or all of their fans are retarded.

>> No.43190445

What set the nijisisters off this time?

>> No.43190446

>>43190373
Yeah the livers have been recording for the past week

>> No.43190450

>>43190330
NTA. Too tired to do a complete translation but it's an aquacrew telling others to not go to other places and spread rrats or anti other chuubas. Since that crap would either make Aqua graduate from the pressure and toxicity, and that karma will someday find those who spread those rrats.

>> No.43190463

>>43190445
Shit brand, no fans

>> No.43190468

>>43190353
isn't it funny they conveniently forget that nijiEN was featured in FUCKING KOSHIEN? never mind the fact that elira's 3d got shilled by kuzuha during a tournament.

>> No.43190469

>>43190411
Elaborate?

>> No.43190477

>>43190421
>>43190391
how come they didnt manage to tap a new audience before luxiem when they had no male counterparts and all of the en resources were focused on them?

>> No.43190482

>>43190312
Seoul got more money, currency wise

>> No.43190496

>>43190353
How can you in good faith believe or argue that it's a skill issue when we have absolute shitters like Bae and bores like fauna, Ina in holo who dont bleed and get good numbers? No they are not entertaining, Just because you look at them through rose-tinted glasses that skewes your judgement doesnt mean they are objectively better streamers than Rosemi or selen. They arent. It;s an agency issue.

>> No.43190507

>>43190102
>its a damning evidence of their entertainment value
Yes.
But the said anon argued that those bleeding graphs cannot be used as evidence since those streams are under the rainbow pacman branding, and it won't be that way if they are under the blue dorrito brand.
But those claims are mere assertions so it all comes down to our own interpretations if we accept the premise.

>> No.43190512

>>43190330
Basically chuuni copypasta posts from mainland aquacrew that they will harass, dox, spread rrats to every vtuber community if saint aqua gets hurt and graduates.

>> No.43190515

>>43188956
Sigh
I'll see you in 3 days. I won't tell you which girl is Bae but skip to the 3 minutes mark and the voice shortly after that point will clue you in
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cYOHCSRVxoQ

>> No.43190520

NO KOROSHION DON'T GGOOOOOO

>> No.43190533

>>43190496
>they are objectively better streamers than Rosemi or selen
yes exactly

>> No.43190535

you guys are a bunch of fags.
The reason Hololive is big is because of me.
the reason gura is popular is because of me.
the reason Myth blew up is because of me.
Pekora is getting big numbers is because of me.
EVERYTHING IS BECAUSE OF ME.
Kneel before ME!
I AM THE MEGA FAN!
I AM HOLOLIVE!
you fags did NOTHING for hololive.
what did YOU contribute?

>> No.43190541

>>43190428
It 100% is an agency thing. Even holos bleed just a bit later, after the 1 hour mark. I already explained why niji has worse retention. scroll up.

>> No.43190546

>>43190445
they finally acknowledge hololive is better than nijisanji

>> No.43190550

>>43190469
Haven't checked but it's probably the preview for the concert like they did for suisei last time?

>> No.43190555

>>43190373
Why are you lying?

>> No.43190558

>>43189713
Kanata's voice is terrible.

>> No.43190562

>>43190496
>How can you in good faith believe or argue that it's a skill issue when we have absolute shitters like Bae and bores like fauna, Ina in holo who dont bleed and get good numbers
Because like it or not anon those 3 are shitters but the nijien females are even worse shitters.
You who thinks that the girls are "entertaining" are in the minority even in your own company and this is post CN peak

>> No.43190575

>>43190477
See>>43190229

>> No.43190579

>>43190168
>>43122312
TLDR
All in all
>Myth bounced back up
>Council stay stable around their striking range
>Luxiem, Noctyx crashed from a very high point
>Lazulight inclined
>Obsydia stayed stable in a good point
>Ethyria lost most of their 2022 gains
and
>iLuna, XSoleil and Tempus are in a death race to the bottom

>> No.43190581

>>43190496
They are better streamers.

>> No.43190583

>>43190469
Same thing with Suisei

>> No.43190584
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43190584

is ojou really popular is Chinaland

>> No.43190599

>>43190445
They can't face the fact that their nijipancreas are more boring than sana

>> No.43190605

>>43190463
kek

>> No.43190607

>>43189155
If Rosemi is better than Fauna then how come she is losing to Fauna in every metric i can think of. Entertainment is subjective but numbers are objective and objectively Fauna is better than Rosemi

>> No.43190613

>>43190533
>retard proving he only argues in bad faith
thank you for proving all my previous points about you being a mindless drone looking through rose-tinted glasses. You only reinforced my believes. Congrats.

>> No.43190614

>>43190256
Nice try Trannie
>Your HOMO's are a MASSIVE FAILURE!
>Prove me wrong!?!?!?!?

>> No.43190617

>>43190507
And his argument is moot because even those outside the blue dorito branding have better retention and even those in the rainbow pacman branding in jp have better retention
Anon just cant seem to accept the fact that Nijien has very low standards when they came recruiting which is reflected in the graphs

>> No.43190621

>>43190312
Kek they opened cafe in Singapore, Taiwan, Korea, US. But never once in Indo their own branch, I wonder why

>> No.43190644

>>43190613
lol

>> No.43190664

>>43190445
Bae is the weak link of HoloEN; any discussion about her opens a prime opportunity for ALL OUT WAR.
The same doesn't happen with Kiara because even the sisters are scared of KFP.

>> No.43190666

I belive Nijisanji would be doing better if they had a cooler logo.

>> No.43190679
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>>43190613
>still using the rose tinted glasses argument when people outside holo have better retention than nijien
actually now that i think about it maybe its not a skill issue but more a fan issue where all of nijien fans are just drooling retards who cant focus past 10 minutes.

>> No.43190680

>>43190621
conflict of interest

>> No.43190692

>>43190550
>>43190583
Thanks.

>> No.43190693

>>43190562
>>43190581
And that's a cope. In no universe is Ina or Bae a fucking better streamer than Selen or Rosemi lmao Watch streams or dont cause you are going to be biased anyways.

>> No.43190707

>>43190621
indochads are too expensive for cover

>> No.43190706

>>43190584
SEA also use tiktok

>> No.43190715

>>43190666
true and based

>> No.43190726

>>43190541
Its an agency thing but not for that reason. Its an agency thing because niji has lower standards than hololive which reflects in the graphs.

>> No.43190729

>>43190535
fuck off omega

>> No.43190739

>>43190607
Scroll up and read the thread to get your answer faggot. It was explained pretty well. I won;t repeat myself for a thousandth time

>> No.43190755

>>43190707
>indochads

>> No.43190765

>>43190664
Not even just KFP. Kiara actually does put lots of effort into strengthening her bonds with her genmates, so other fanbases like her as well and will also defend her from antis in internet arguments.

>> No.43190784
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>>43190693
>Watch streams
You dont need to watch their streams to know that they are unentertaining since they even fail to entertain or retain their target audience anon.
You are in the minority here that likes them.

>> No.43190790

>>43190693
(you)

>> No.43190809

>>43190679
yes retention in niji en is bad
thats why im saying it's an agency issue
if holos were in niji they would have the same bad retention
if nijis were in holo they would have their good retention. Simple.

>> No.43190812

Faline San said she will take big projects starting on march. Will still upload her videos but not much. Potential EN3?

>> No.43190827

>>43190693
>Watch streams or dont cause you are going to be biased anyways.
anon even their own audience finds them boring and dips early own and those people are biased for nijisanji.

>> No.43190841

wow 1000+ posts and 90% of them are dogshit !

>> No.43190843

>>43190812
Is she good, what does she offer?

>> No.43190842

>>43190812
Who

>> No.43190845

I think she is too big for Hololive

>> No.43190854

>>43190512
Didnt they have actual schizos believe that Aqua was being held captive by Cover and that they needed to rescue her at one point?

>> No.43190857

>>43190809
its only an agency issue because nijien had low standards when it comes to hiring
its why nijien has shitty retention compared to literally everyone else

>> No.43190860

>>43190726
>he says this when holoen hired ina sana and bae
your argument about standards makes no sense sorry
Selen rosemi and pomu are higher standard than ina bae and sana

>> No.43190866

all this seething from the nijitroon...

>> No.43190871

Just so it's clear, we're all in agreement that Anykara is a shithole agency right?

>> No.43190883

>>43190845
Meant for this>>43190812

>> No.43190887

>>43190693
Rosemi is a shitter even compared to only NijiEN organs, there must be a logical reason why that is.

>> No.43190893

>>43190871
>we
ARE NEVER EVER EVER
GETTING BACK TOGETHER

>> No.43190894

>>43190860
Ina sana and bae has bigger and better retention than selen rosemi and pomu anon

>> No.43190901

>>43190784
>torist retard comming through not even reading the thread throwing his irrelevant 2 cents in
read the thread first faggot and see that your point was already debunked many times.
retention and bleeding has nothign to do with them personally as it's the niji debuff. Ina would bleed even more if she was part of niji females

>> No.43190913

>>43190854
they also started a funding campaign to "buy" aqua from Cover, and then the guy who made disappeared with the money lol

>> No.43190937

TLDR
Nijinogs have lost it

>> No.43190938
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>>43190841
Have a good one then, anon.

>> No.43190939

>>43190857
they hired rosemi selen and pimu who are way better streamers than ina bae and sana
if niji has bad standards, what does it say about holo?

>> No.43190952

>>43190913
kek

>> No.43190964

who is still biting?

>> No.43190965

>>43190939
Give it a rest, anon.

>> No.43190966

>>43190901
>retention and bleeding has nothign to do with them personally as it's the niji debuff
I agree its not 100% on them since the agency takes some blame for hiring them but they still take a big blame anon, theyve literally had 2 years to find and do something to both grow and retain their audience.

>> No.43190971

>>43190894
Because they are in holo anon
I already explained this thsouand times
How can you be so retarded? A bot? A parrot? A mindless drone? A bored troll? Who are you?

>> No.43190990

>>43190871
Yes. I'm we.

>> No.43190993

>>43190937
i can't tell if it's a bitter lazusydia fag that's mad his obscure streamers he likes are absolute shitters for their entire career or a shitposter getting really into it, posting on cooldown. all i know is they are incredibly sad.

>> No.43190994

>>43190964
my cat. She stopped being a kitten long ago, but she's still biting.

>> No.43190998

>>43190937
lost what

>> No.43190999

>>43190971
and as ive said even people outside holo have retention anon
why cant you just admit that nijien standards being so low made it so that they hired shitters

>> No.43191002

>>43190765
Well, I don't like Kiara as a streamer, but I do respect her as a person. I typically shit on her for poor numbers, but I guess I'd make an effort to defend her if someone tried to make it about her character.

>> No.43191003

>>43190964
It's nice that he isn't Holo vs holoing for once atleast, although still just as retarded

>> No.43191008

>>43190809
yes retention in niji en is bad
thats why im saying it's an agency issue
niji en is worse at hiring than holo en
if holos were in niji they would have kept their good retention in niji
if nijis were in holo they would have kept their bad retention in holo. Simple.
I can play your retarded game.
So for the bystanders, choose your pick:
>branding and culture issue
>hiring issue

>> No.43191010
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>>43190938
thanks sheep. you always brighten up my days/nights

>> No.43191009

>>43190913
Pretty hilarious. I do wonder how much it'd cost to have Cover ever part with a vtuber though. I assume they wouldn't, but everyone probably has a price.

>> No.43191012

>>43190965
I accept your concession.
>>43190966
>missing the entire point
congrats you might be clinically retarded.
In another universe Selen was hired by holo and Fauna by niji and guess what theyir graphs and numbers are swapped. Because thats what would happen. You can't tell me yuo fucking believe Fauna or Bae would have these numbers in niji????

>> No.43191041

>>43190812
Has she ever expressed interest in vtubers or even being a streamer? Looks like just a normalfag youtuber

>> No.43191050

>>43189149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvCG2VzNkaU
real ID gold

>> No.43191054

>>43191012
>>43191008

>> No.43191072

>>43190999
Why are you so stubborn to not admit that it's not the talent's fault or entertainment value but the niji mark that is a debuff as they are the anti-female agency?? They are more entetaining than most holos yet get worse numbers purely becasue of the label they belong to.

>> No.43191077
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43191077

>>43186467
>>43187179
And here is the
** MEDIAN OF PEAKS, GLOBAL, FEBRUARY FIRST FIFTEEN DAYS, 1k plus **

Here are some quick fire comments
1) There are 232 tracked channels over 1k,
and the punchline
2) All of VSPO made the cut, with the lowest ranked having a 2167 median
3) Only five of the twelve Neo Porte made the cut
4) Twenty-four tracked indies made the cut, including DELUTAYA
5) Lowest ranked Holo JP girl was Mel, with a 3k+ median. Haachama and Roboco were the only other two with a sub 5k median in the branch
6) Karin Necoma and Virtual Obaachan both spot a 4.5k median, outranking Haachama, Kiara and every NijiEN girl
7) Pippa outranks Petra, kson and Reine
8) Re:Act's Leona made the cut
9) Kagura Mea outranks Shiro and Rindou

and the punchline
10) Roberu outranks FIVE (5) out of the Holostars EN so far this month

>> No.43191086

>>43190245
faunaschizo is the discord groomer that's still seething that his 5D chess maneuver to make Fauna EN Aloe and Shondo his sex slave failed

>> No.43191088

>>43190998
Lost the plot

>> No.43191093

>>43191012
>You can't tell me yuo fucking believe Fauna or Bae would have these numbers in niji????
not those numbers but they would have better retention
selen would have bigger numbers but still have that shitty retention

>> No.43191095

>>43190809
it's true that hololive is better than nijisanji, but the talent also part of the reason why hololive became so big today. and hololive pick the right talent, otherwise they will become like nijien today

>> No.43191102

>>43191008
basolutely delusional faggot. What makes you even think A boring shitter like ina fauna or bae would have good retention in niji? You are on pure copium mode right here. It;s time to stop this faggotry.

>> No.43191105

>>43191009
If there's some thing that could make Cover give up one of its talents, that thing is not money.

>> No.43191120

>>43191072
>niji mark that is a debuff as they are the anti-female agency??
that makes 0 sense since they were shitters even before luxiem

>> No.43191133

>>43191093
Definitely not. They would have worse retention than Rosemi. Because they are boring and people keep watchig only becasue they are part of hololive.
>>43191095
The talents who are the reason hololive is better are in JP

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43191134

>>43189161
>If you've donated USD $1k, you get 1 hour of 1-o-1 voice chat with Zoey! Please email us the compiled receipt and we'll arrange it!

>> No.43191141

>>43191093
>selen would have bigger numbers
No she wouldn't

>> No.43191142

>>43191105
It literally is but its money that doesn't go to the girls they drool over

>> No.43191147

>>43191012
>I accept your concession.
I wasn't even the one arguing with you. You're definitely a retard though. Stop shitting up the thread or at least get better bait. It's boring.

>> No.43191148

>>43191133
And from what weve seen in the graphs rosemi seems to be more boring anon

>> No.43191157

>>43191012
Do you really believe that you "win" argument when people get sick of replying to what is probably an underage highschooler who just finished his first debate class with 60%?

>> No.43191171

>170+ ip
>1000+ post
Roru

>> No.43191173

>>43191142
Nope.

>> No.43191179

>>43185671
>HoloEN's audience values Western meme proficiency and humor the most, over hard work, and even over other talents
Could have just stopped there anon

>> No.43191189

>>43191133
oh holojp talents are better i agree but holoen is still leagues ahead of nijien

>> No.43191190

>>43191148
See>>43188201
And stop repeating the same invalid point over and over again, drone.

>> No.43191196

>>43190993
Lazusydia fn having a mental breakdown and realizing his whores will never be big. They lost everything. The comfy status, the chemistry, even their numbers are going down and none of the new female talents are any good. It's over for nijien and the sunk cost is too big

>> No.43191210

>>43190693
So what makes Pomu and selen better than ina for you?

>> No.43191220

>>43191173
Yes? Sponsorship money that was going to Cover and not individual members is why they fired a talent.

>> No.43191219

So, when's Paul Li handing out the gift cards?

>> No.43191221

>>43191102
all of them have the ability of building their audience. something similar also happen to luxiem, why nijien female couldn't? simple, skill issue

>> No.43191230

>>43191189
>but holoen is still leagues ahead of nijien
This was never true and that's what im trying to illustrate to you.

>> No.43191232

Wait doesnt Uki, Shu and Noctyx have semi better retention than the girls?

>> No.43191233

>>43189161
You gotta pay $1k before you can call her your wife

>> No.43191257

>>43191219
He better have saved up, this guy has been earning a truckload today.

>> No.43191263

>>43191102
Enjoyment is subjective. Just because you don't see Fauna and Bae as entertaining does not mean it is true to others.
Hell, some fans of 2views believe their oshi are better than 5views.
You have to learn to agree to disagree and to stop forcing your beliefs to others if they actively resist it.
You are just agitating Fauna, Ina, and Bae fans.

>> No.43191275

>>43191230
it is true anon and the numbers and graphs back it up.

>> No.43191276

>>43191230
luxiem has proven you wrong

>> No.43191284

>>43190739
I accept your concession. Atleast tell me one good thing about Rosemi

>> No.43191287

>>43191210
They are more charismatic and enthusiastic during streams.
>>43191221
none of them build an audience. it was hype generated by the agency and being labelled as a holo. ASs to luxiem they were botted by zhang fujos.

>> No.43191296

>>43191263
>You have to learn to agree to disagree and to stop forcing your beliefs to others if they actively resist it.
He doesn't have to do that when his objective is to shit up the thread. Quite the opposite in fact.

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>>43191077
Anemachi my beloved.

>> No.43191305

>>43191275
Imagine believing in numbers and trends instead of some schizos feelings.

>> No.43191319

>>43191263
>just agitating Fauna, Ina, and Bae fans
I don't think anyone is getting agitated by such obvious trolling

>> No.43191350

https://youtu.be/fRr2k5zHgQM

>> No.43191351

mein gott SEA hours are particularly retarded today

>> No.43191355

>>43191220
Getting your story reversed. They fired a talent for contract breach. They WERE considering not firing her, but that would stain them as an untrustworthy company.

>> No.43191373

>>43191305
whats funny is that his argument falls flat on his face when you remember that the girls were shitters before luxiem and when they had 100% of the branch's resources directed to them

>> No.43191389

>>43191263
You are missing my point. Yes entertainment is to some degree subjective but we can compare how god of a streamer someone is and Pomu selen and rosemi are better streamers than ina sana and bae. This is objective. Were they in holo they would also get better numbers than them
>>43191275
holo audience watching holo wow what a surprise
nothign to do with the talents.
>>43191276
what???
>>43191284
Retard. Rosemi is funny and cute.

>> No.43191390

>>43191287
>ASs to luxiem they were botted by zhang fujos.
where do you think those zhang fujos come from? they didn't exist until luxiem debut. luxiem literally build their fanbase from zero. and nijien female has never done something like that. because of why?? correct. skill issue

>> No.43191395

>>43191350
timezone locked.

>> No.43191398

>>43191355
>contract breach
of a sponsorship not pertaining to specific talents, ergo more pay for the office drone that does literally nothing for us

>> No.43191403

>muh agency
Can we add this to the nijicope list?

>> No.43191415

>>43191287
>They are more charismatic and enthusiastic during streams
Weird, I think that Ina, or any holo really, is more of that than Pomu or Selen. Apparently that can't be true, since you gave definitive proof that people believe the opposite.

>> No.43191431

>>43191351
kys germutt
>>43191390
eigo jouzu

>> No.43191440

>>43191134
kek, missed that

>> No.43191441

>>43191398
Oh, you were just trolling. Sorry then, didn't mean to disturb you.

>> No.43191457

>>43191441
Cope

>> No.43191458

>>43191350
I guess they aren't getting an MV huh? Also surprisingly it's English.

>> No.43191462

>>43191389
Thanks for the laugh, retard.

>> No.43191465

https://www.youtube.com/live/Q8bMih46-bc

EN GOLD

>> No.43191471

>>43191415
>I think that Ina, or any holo really, is more of that than Pomu or Selen
You only think so because you look through rose-tinted glasses at them. If Pomu or Selen were a different persona that debuted in hololive you would be now arguing for them.

>> No.43191480

>>43191465
>unembeddable /live/
kek

>> No.43191483
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>>43191389
>holo audience watching holo wow what a surprise
youre suprised they find them entertaining?
does the nijien audience not watching niji stream? is that somehow the norm for nijisanj?
kina feels like its a skill issue.

>> No.43191495

>>43191041
The more disconnected someone from vtubing industry they are more likely to get hired by Cover

>> No.43191510

>>43191462
I accept your concession, drone.

>> No.43191516

>>43191133
I mean you can't really ignore myths impact on the whole scene holo jp are stronger as entertainers but myths burst in popularity and exposure helped jp grow a lot not to mention the fact that holo en is way stronger then niji en

>> No.43191523

>>43191389
>This is objective
How do you measure it?

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>>43191431
>losing to an argument
>eigo jouzu

>> No.43191527

>>43191465
5k tops.

>> No.43191532

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1626244125124362240

>> No.43191536

>>43191471
and you would be arguing against them because of your own rose tainted glasses
numbers and graphs says that they are shitters

>> No.43191540

>>43191287
Those superficial characteristics anon. I meant objectively

>> No.43191539

>>43186363
I mean, the underwear stream proved that she can exercise her power whenever she wants

>> No.43191541

>>43191220
You think they fired Rushia because she didn't want to do a sponsorship?

>> No.43191545

>>43191523
My feelings > Your feelings.

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>>43191532
Numbers?

>> No.43191556

>>43191483
>missing the point
>again
>>43191516
lmao no
no EOP watches JP anymore

>> No.43191555

>>43191465
Nvm lol

>> No.43191568

>>43191541
no, read better

>> No.43191591

>>43191548
depending on the thumbnail 25k

>> No.43191598

>>43191548
45k

>> No.43191601

>>43191471
If Ina was in Nijisanji you'd say that she's a better fit for hololive with her "seiso-ness"

>> No.43191600

>>43191548
15-22k

>> No.43191611

>>43191465
>18th
Ina is going to eat her like a cookie.

>> No.43191614

>>43191532
Qrd?

>> No.43191615

>>43191536
>No y-you!!!
Nice deflection
>>43191540
Cope faggot. Rosemi is more entertaining than Sana.

>> No.43191616

>>43191532
Song + outfit?

>> No.43191621

>>43191556
Whats the point? That nijien cant even make their own audience watch let alone stay for their streams?
How is that a company issue and not a skill issue on the streamers part anon.

>> No.43191629

>>43186467
INDOCHAD?

>> No.43191633

>>43191532
>double reveal
Original song and dakimakura? Original song and new intro?

>> No.43191636

>>43191230
Only luxiam came close to holoen and they have reclined hard since then, so has holo en but they still have a far stronger mindshare and potential then any nijitalent

>> No.43191641

>>43191510
Anons already know which shitposter you are from your incessant concession posting.

>> No.43191640

>>43191350
is this the gura bae one?

>> No.43191644

>>43191350
these holo27 songs are dumpster fire so far

>> No.43191645

>>43191548
She got 40k with a normal zatsu so I'm gonna say 60k minimum on this one.

>> No.43191655

>>43191389
>Funny and cute
That's it? Faggot you yourself don't watch her if that's your answer.

>> No.43191657

>>43191548
35K

>> No.43191666

>>43191615
>he says this when sana can retain her audience better than rosemi can retain hers
kek

>> No.43191693

>>43191636
Still amazes me how hard Luxiem crashed. They were really solid at the start of last year and just junked it all.

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>>43191532
Double reveal??? One is Sweet Appetite, right?

>> No.43191707

>>43191601
NO i wouldnt. Notice how I only mention Selen Pomu and Rosemi cause I believe these are the ones that would be better in holo. I certainly dont think someone like nina or enna would do good

>> No.43191716

>>43191693
Vox shouldn’t have insulted Sonny’s mom

>> No.43191723

>>43191655
>That's it? Faggot you yourself don't watch her if that's your answer.
Of course he doesnt
His main argument is that the only reason why selen, pomu and rosemi has shit numbers somehow nijien fans dont watch streams while hololive fans watch holo streams.
Guy is kinda retarded

>> No.43191724

>>43191532
>#gawrgura
Management tweet

>> No.43191730

>>43186525
I mean, worked with Pekora

>> No.43191743

>>43191548
25k. No, scratch that, 35k. No, 45k. Actually 38k. 29k, maybe? 50k my final offer. No, 42k.

>> No.43191745

Notice how the holo v holo stopped?

>> No.43191744

>>43191655
color me surprised >>43190287

>> No.43191752

>>43191666
You dont know this satan since rosemi never had the opportunity to be inn holo so we cant compare their graphs.
>>43191655
kys, that's literally all gura is.

>> No.43191756

>>43191702
No because that's out already, not really a reveal

>> No.43191758

Why did they choose bae to pair with gura? Literally anyone else would be better and wouldn't pull the numbers down.

>> No.43191765

>>43191702
Why would she reveal a song that already came out?

>> No.43191771

>>43191389
>Pomu, Selen, and Rosemi are objectively better streamers than Ina, Sana, and Bae.
We are talking about objectivity now, huh? Thank goodness. These are what I will ask you.
>What is the objective way to measure how competent a streamer is?
>Can you describe the methodology?
>What information are needed to be subjected into the said objective process?

>> No.43191778

>>43191532
>EST
EN management hates her now

>> No.43191789

>>43191752
>>43191771

>> No.43191791

>>43191758
Someone has to sing the japanese part

>> No.43191796

>>43191758
IRyS or Fauna would probably drag the numbers down more for a song honestly.

>> No.43191798

>>43191636
luxiem was propped by zhang sisters retard
they didnt incline
just few mentally ill sisters who botted them and left

>> No.43191805

>>43186692
It's also not that hard to understand that there are a lot of people who want to treat woman like literal object and will throw a hissy fit if they think they have to share it with someone else

>> No.43191819

>>43191745
you spoke to soon see >>43191758

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buy now anons!

>> No.43191832

>>43185343
>>43185259
Pekora as never lost contact with Hinatan, she called her on her birthday in 2021 too. And as no issues talking about her on stream on the rare occasion someone brings up her name.

>> No.43191836

>>43191798
>luxiem was propped by zhang sisters retard
>they didnt incline
I mean if thats the case then the whole branch didnt incline and became stagnant

>> No.43191839

>>43191539
>No EOP watches jp
You know basing your openion on /hllg isn't really right

>> No.43191849

>>43191771
Wow what a massive faggot trying to talk about muh methodology with rose-tainted glasses on his face LMAO give me a break drone

>> No.43191851

>>43191724
>Management tweet
Retard post.

>> No.43191853

>>43191819
fuck

>> No.43191854

What song are kiara and mumei singing

>> No.43191870

>>43191758
Fuck that, why didn't Gura get a solo song?
They better not pull this bullshit with Suisei too.

>> No.43191888

The major reason the Luxiem boys crashed hard is because the spent the majority of last year pandering to the event tourist instead dedicating long periods of time creating a rock solid viewership floor

>> No.43191896

huh actually the guy has some point.
if nijisanji was actually good they would have retained their own audience.

>> No.43191897

>>43191791
The song's entirely in English anon.

>> No.43191898

>>43191839
>replying to the wrong post
>had an aneurysm while typing
kek holo en management isn't sending their best huh?

>> No.43191899

>>43187049
>if fauna could speak Japanese
SO never

>> No.43191919

>>43191548
>Numbers
20k
>Reveal
Cover song and merch most likely

>> No.43191920

>>43191839 ment for
>>43191556

>> No.43191944

>>43191870
HoloX will get more solo songs lol

>> No.43191945

>>43191758
IRyS would have been shitter kek

>> No.43191946

>>43185410
It is weird how baes numbers keep getting lower and lower but the brrats here keep increasing. The more she reclines the more posts about her appear. Even her covers don't get any views anymore

>> No.43191948

>>43191896
that's because they choose the wrong talent

>> No.43191950

>>43191077
>Kobo: 10408
>Salome: 8868

>> No.43191957

>>43191568
Oh, my sarcasm detector broke because of this thread. My bad.

>> No.43191961

>>43191898
>someone shilling for niji is somehow holoen management
intern kun why are you so retarded

>> No.43191964

>>43191920
Yeah I already replied slowpoke
>>43191898
/hlg/ is being raided and trolled by nijifags
those arent eops

>> No.43191973

>>43191350
Someone throw a catbox link for us non SEA anons.

>> No.43192013

No one would've been a better option than bae anyways. Mori is doing her own shit. The only 2 options left for the deco thing are Kiara and Mumei. Mumei can't sing in jap and Kiara is equally as debuff as Bae.

>> No.43192012

>>43191854
Ghost Rule

>> No.43192014

>>43191854
Ghost rule

>> No.43192015

>>43191961
Retard, how are they shilling for niji?

>> No.43192040

Hololive talents > niji. hard diff

>> No.43192059

>>43189547
She couldn't even reach 4k....

>> No.43192061

>>43191644
Pekomiko Mosh Race is cool tho

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>> No.43192095

>>43190515
holy shit, thanks anon

>> No.43192104

>>43191898
Fucking retard do you think 30k people watching pekora are Japanese? A lot of audiance has stuck around and denying that is retarded

>> No.43192115

>>43192015
read the original reply chain he was gonna reply to next time intern kun
he was replying to that retard who kept on arguing that the reason why nijien talents have bad retention is not because theyre not entertaining but because nijien fans dont watch them

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>>43191230
You're a delusional sister if that's the case. SC, total views, CCV, and every number you can think of, the ENTIRETY of NijiEN lose or in par to just Myth, and that's just Myth. Picrel.

Then there's mindshare and other stats like merch, Omocat, figures, con/fes attendance. Anon??? Let's be serious here

>> No.43192136

>>43192083
I thought the ID tag was a debuff?

>> No.43192141

>>43187562
>In this case, deliver entertainment.
Yes, which by EN audience means reacting to random YT videos and making harambe jokes, apparently

>> No.43192143

>>43191896
Exactly. Nijis are just that boring. Simple.

>> No.43192162

>>43191849
What do you mean by rose-tainted glasses? The fact that I like Rosemi's visuals and voice?

>> No.43192170

>>43192083
why don't people watch enna? she's cute

>> No.43192180

>>43192012
ghost rule doesn't seem like a mumei song to me

>> No.43192188

>>43192104
those who watch her because of myth are miniscule

>> No.43192202

>>43190515
I am absolutely and conclusively
>unimpressed
If that's what people are saying is her claim to dance godhood, I genuinely don't think she can even be in the top 5 for the currently existing Holos

>> No.43192208

>>43192170
I mean is that bad? Didn't Kronii only get like 6k for her first stream of that game?

>> No.43192212

>>43187668
Are you seriously comparing US and Europe to fucking Aussie?
Like I know they're shit but you don't have to disrespect them like that

>> No.43192218

>>43190913
that's the chink special

>> No.43192221

>>43192170
because nijien fans dont watch streams but not because they are boring or anything they just somehow dont according to our resident nijifag/intern

>> No.43192232

>>43192115
he was shilling for holo en not niji and saying niji's bleeding is their own fault and not the agency they belong to

>> No.43192233

btw Millie is back with a meme concert but I guess no one really cares about her

>> No.43192252

>>43191898
Ha! As if EN management would ever shill holos.

>> No.43192254

>>43192136
only the niji tag is a debuff

>> No.43192260

> 1200 posts
alright wtf happened, new nijiyab or smth?

>> No.43192268

>>43192162
the fact that you think rosemi wouldnt do better in holo. the fact that you think sana or bae are better streamers than her.

>> No.43192277

>>43192208
Nevermind she got 9k but I guess thats about what you would expect, 9k for a Holo girl and 3k for a Niji girl seems in line with their norms.

>> No.43192279

>>43192208
funny because enna got 2.7k when streaming pt1 at 11am jst, i can only imagine why she's getting more on pt2 of this boring ass game.

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>>43190066

>> No.43192296

>>43192232
no he was shilling for niji since i asked him why they didnt watch nijien streams if they werent boring but he replied with >le missing the point non answer

>> No.43192307

>>43192260
Among other things, there is no page 11 right now

>> No.43192339

>>43192268
objectively sana and bae are better streamers due to not just the numbers but retention
>b-but my company brand
shu and uki also has semi good retention for nijien

>> No.43192340

>>43192260
mind broke sis telling how nijiEN will have higher # if you put them in holo

>> No.43192358

>>43192260
It's just the Giftcord frantically trying to convince everyone why their whores are better, even though there's empirical evidence that that isn't the case.

>> No.43192365

>>43192136
If Kaela had EN tag, she'd be a 15k streamer

>> No.43192368

The Gura song is with Bae and not even on YT? Is this a joke?

>> No.43192370

>>43192296
You retard are mixing anons up. You canrt even read the chai since the retard here>>43191839
replied to the wrong post

>> No.43192379

>>43192260
some retard actually thinks that rosemi, selen or pomu hass what it takes to be in hololive when they cant even entertain or retain the retarded nijien audience.

>> No.43192403

>>43192170
all things considered, she's actually inclining. she was also one of the few niji female that could built her own audience. cucck audience of course, but still..

>> No.43192411

So Fauna and Mumei in the cripple and gaijin tallies. GRIM. Milord, save EN during CN time again.

>> No.43192413

>>43192370
see
>>43191920
he meant to reply to the nijifag post

>> No.43192438

>>43192293
Marine! You can't say that. You're gonna get cancelled.

>> No.43192452

>>43192170
"You calling her cute, ewww parasocial incel much"

>> No.43192459

>>43192403
>all things considered, she's actually inclining
yeah no she's down from her peak like the other girls

>> No.43192460

>>43192260
Slow as fuck catalog and we are getting raided out the ass. We got 180+ IPs for no apparent reason.

>> No.43192464

>>43192307
did catalog get nuked?

>> No.43192467

>>43192413
yeah exactly
thats why I sad he is a holo intern, replying to a nijifag

>> No.43192477

really makes me think if Met would've really graduated if the VSPO deal didn't go through

>> No.43192482

>>43192170
You filthy liar.

>> No.43192498

>>43192370
They write in the same manner.

>> No.43192509

>>43192403
>inclining
wasnt she a 5k streamer a few months back?

>> No.43192515

>>43192411
>"Milord"
>saving anyone
He can't even save himself.

>> No.43192521

>>43192411
voxy will be lucky to beat pomu when he comes back, the sisters know everything

>> No.43192524

>>43192477
is that not what was stated already? that she would graduate if 774 didnt do a full transfer to vspo, she would graduate?

>> No.43192556

>>43191752
You don't watch Rosemi. You are just here to shitpost. Pls have some decency and don't ruin her image

>> No.43192555

>>43192467
and thats why i called you intern kun or are you new on the job and you dont know who intern/noor is?

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>>43192459
she still inclining compared to her a year ago

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