/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

How do we save NijiEN?

How do we save HoloEN

>>43178770
Recent clip numbers
>>43121240
>>43121265
>>43121296
>>43121328
>>43121350

How do we save WACTOR?

>>43177051
Tempus was made to steal Niji's fans so I guess we all agree the strategy is working quite well for them, right?

How do we save Tsunderia?

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>38,879: Toya (Nijisanji)
>31,781: Calli (Hololive)
>31,008: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,266: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,904: Kanata (Hololive)
>21,814: Korone (Hololive)
>20,241: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>20,213: Uiha (Nijisanji)
>18,471: Shion (Hololive)
>18,081: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>17,957: Hal (Neo Porte)
>15,119: Ui (Indie)
>14,476: Watame (Hololive)
>14,422: Botan (Hololive)
>14,122: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,386: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,991: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,750: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,285: Nene (Hololive)

How do we save Kawaii?

>>43178799
Nijiyab deflection

>>43178827
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,315 - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Marine
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
33x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa, Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>>43178785
hard to say
i feel there's gonna be a mass exodus of their fans soon if the management isn't going to step in and fix the mess

How do we save Phase Connect?

>>43178785
Convert it into male-only group
>>43178799
Play more Minecraft
>>43178814
Disband Spanish branch
>>43178821
Who

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/15 DAILY TALLY
31,781: Mori (Hololive)
13,386: Mumei (Hololive)
11,991: Fauna (Hololive)
9,718: Fauna (Hololive)
8,750: Ina (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mori
3x: Baelz
2x: Amelia
1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii, Fauna, IRyS, Gura

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
24p: Mori
21p: Baelz
12p: IRyS
11p: Amelia, Mumei
9p: Ina, Fauna
7p: Kronii, Vox
5p: Kiara, Gura
4p: Vesper
3p: Uki, Luca, Magni
1p: Mysta

GRIM

>>43178785
they should aggressively kill all the dramatubers and parade their heads on a platter

that would probably earn them goodwill from most of the fanbase

How do we save Vshojo?

>>43178880

>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
28x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori
4x: Baelz
3x: Mysta, Ina
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, IRyS
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Fauna, Gura

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
43p: Mumei
35p: Ina
29p: Amelia, Baelz, Mori
28p: IRyS
26p: Vox, Fauna
23p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kiara
10p: Pomu
8p: Ike, Millie
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Gura
4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>43178892
just let them rot. Fuck those whores

How do we save 774inc?

How do we save /#/?

How do we save our own immortal souls?

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

>>43178920
Flags and thread id

How do we save Kizuna Ai?

>>43178891
funny enough it depends on how you do it since their recent attempt of doing turned into a shitshow even though it would have been the most easiest way to please the fanbase

Could Cover withstand terminating Sora or putting her in the banishment room? I feel when the IPO happens those ones that are less popular will get eliminated or starved out.

Another IRyS vs Fauna thread about to start

How do we save file as pdf from word?

Even Tempus mogs Niji En on a daily basis.
I'm afraid it's going to be too late if Noor doesn't take charge now.

How can I save you all anons?

>>43178940
how new?
those never solve anything

>>43178988
i don't wanna be saved

>>43178941
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

>>43178970
And other retarded thing anon told himself to sleep

GRIM is experiencing inflation, I must remind /#/ what GRIM really looks like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQVsdO9V2tA

And it's not just being a 2view or having sub-10k subs after 15 months, but also failing to 1k on your VODs and even having sub-200 view ones, and having less than 500k channel views total.

>>43178770
Would ToonTubers count for the tally?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMq_bTSc7wY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-yW-3dI1oE

>>43178970
sister please. it's not healthy for you...

>>43178985
has niji en guys stopped trying already?

>>43178976
Click file, click save as, click chumbuds

Is Yagoo why Hololive company culture seems easy-going and approachable?

>>43178985
>four man collab with a twitch whore can only get 4k, barely beats Aia
Is this what they've come to?

>>43178920
Rangeban Indonesia

>>43178970
Even the runt of HoloID is profitable. The ones who have to worry are the Holostars. They are the WNBA of Cover.

>>43178985
>pomu carrying en branch on her back
>can't even beat tempus
How can nijis compete if their ace can't even hit 5k?

Will Anycolor fold after having their bluff called? Will they go all in and fuck him up?
If they fold they’re in trouble, they’ll never be able to strike another video ever again, people will just counter notice and laugh at them.

>>43179021
Why is this better than a model with vtube studio? Is he triggering all those transitions via a hotkey? If so, it kinda sucks. If they're dynamic somehow it looks OK.
As far as the tally, none of these people will ever qualify but if they do, I think standard rules would apply. If the channel always was a vtuber, sure

>>43179019
>rejecting holox for verse

how do we save miko

I started reading Oshi no Koi and started getting blackpilled on the reality of the idol/entertainment industry. Hololive is the exception right? They're not a black company, right? Everything is all smiles and happiness behind the scenes, right?

>>43179017
It's a thought exercise on what the limit of good will is. The #1 talent isn't bigger than the company, the 40th most popular talent isn't either.

>>43178985
First unarchive karaoke stream fell to Bettel lmao

>>43178970
>he thinks its sora that people have to worry about when the ipo comes
anon stars would be the first on the chopping block once an ipo does happen and its the same reason why an ipo is very unlikely

>>43179132
How do I unsubscribe? I dont recall opting in to this blog

>>43179122
I kept hearing this. Is this real?

>>43179132
Ethical companies are impossible under capitalism.

why am i getting a message like this

>>43179090
the funniest thing about the whole debacle is that it was a shitshow for both sides

>>43179090
Can't they just reject the dispute?

>>43179171
Source: his ass / Rosemi T3 members / revealed in a dream

>>43179163
Just any scenario that ousts Sora is good. I just wonder if Cover could handle it.

>>43179090
If they let him come back he will be vindictive anyways. If they nuke him I don't think enough people care about him for it to blow up and allow him more exposure.

>>43179033
Nijis can't just compete. They're outmatched outgunned by HoloEN, HoloID, Tempus, and sometimes Pippa.

>>43179147
It’s a dumb thought exercise. Might as well ask
>if Tanigo gets horny, would he prefer to harass Sora, Miko or some hobo that lives at the headquarters doors?
It’s a dumb scenario and the options out forward are even dumber.

>>43179124
Pekomiko collab unironically.

>>43179124
Brutal sex anon

>>43179201
Sora isn't untouchable.

>>43179187
Yes. All they need to do is to show to YouTube they intend to take this to court and the channel is gone

>>43179185
was it though? who cares about a dramatuber getting shat on besides his "fans". Everyone hates these drama bait youtubers.

>>43178859
Aren't Niji's audience leaving for Tempus already?

>>43179171
just conjecture based on some coincidental events
>yagoo mentioning about how he has to be wary of talents being poached around the same time holox and verse debuted
>one of them (i think it was the sheep) mentioning about how she declined another offer in favor of verse

>>43179033
They don't even do what they do best anymore by collabing with each other.

>>43179201
The obvious answer is Subaru, his holodaughter.

>>43179224
You are missing my point. Your “thought exercise” is dumb on the premise.
Just be sincere with yourself and formulate the topic you really want to talk
>here guys, help me find ways to fantasize about such and such person getting into trouble
You will unironically find more genuine reactions

>>43179242
It's a dumb rrat because nobody would decline peak form Hololive for an unproven new corpo no matter what kind of contract the latter offered.

>>43178985
don't watch tempus but i'd rather have brotubers dominate the market than those fujobaiters

>>43179233
>who cares about a dramatuber getting shat on besides his "fans"
its not about a dramatuber getting shat on its the way anycolor shat on him
using any other reason would have been fine but them using the copyright stuff on just select videos that are negative against them really muddied the waters and made some defend that retarded dramtuber
had they instead opted for the false information/defamation stuff it would have had less support for khyo

>>43179132
>Everything is all smiles and happiness behind the scenes, right?
Yes. They enjoyed using your supas to buy condom money for conner.

>>43179261
can't collab when you're on "break"

>>43179242
>she declined another offer in favor of verse
>Instead of playing for the New York Yankees I've decided to sign with the Montgomery Biscuits
No one ever did this.

>>43179261
Nijis can always collab with Tempus to stop their bleeding viewerships.

>>43179033
They're charging up for the chain-return buff stream and graduation stream.

>>43179298
>He thinks normies wouldnt get swayed with an offer from Sony
anon hololive is big but sony can promise (bs) stuff that hololive cant even offer

>>43179176
Probably a 4ch bug. At least is just a refresh away.

>enter thread
>none off the discussion is about numbers
is this just the /vt/ general

>>43179312
>>43179330

Do you all like numbers?
So cute

>>43179275
I just want to know the state of Cover, Hololive members and holofans if Cover ever did that to Sora.

>>43179124
How are mikos member asmrs? Any good?

>>43179090
If Anycolor fold, everything just return to status quo. Anycolor really lacked power or more precisely fanbase/community power. There are even a sizable amount of people supporting him, including perhaps a decent amount of Holofans. If this is Cover, shit would be over by now, just look at Depressednousagi.

>gura and mumei have the shortest valentines voice packs
why do they hate their fans?

>>43179330
They would've had to promise her millions of dollars and her own tv broadcasted anime in order to look even remotely as attractive as Hololive.

>>43178970
no, are you retarded the cost operation of vtuber is low as fuck

>>43179356
Cute, silly, and she likes making ero noises. She didn't simulate hand job sounds this time but she's ambassador now.

>>43178785
Can't save them unless they stop harassing vtuber journalists like Khyo

Speaking of Sony... Didn't they plan on debuting like 50 vtubers?

>>43179374
hell promising them opportunities to cross over and appear on their other ips like movies, music and even games would be a bigger offer than cover can counter
>her own tv broadcasted anime
considering most of their papa's and the people that was attached to them were connected in the anime scene i wouldnt doubt that sony promised them that

>>43178985
Is Bettel and Magni the top dogs of Tempus now?

>>43179390
The day all journalists are jailed or executed is the day the world becomes a better place
What have journalists ever offered to society?

>>43179352
Just fantasize yourself mate, don’t drag others into your masturbatory device
>OHHHH, Sora, look at you now!
>Formerly an idol, now dejected and defeated!
>even your bear left you now! Ankimo is now sitting at the top of MY head! MWAHAHAHAHA
Get some help!

>>43179414
that was last year and i think they did reach the quota by absorbing a couple of small corpos

>>43179386
Thanks, i'll check them out, sounds cute.

>>43179242
I finally remembered that stupid narrative. What a stretch.

>>43179080
Who said Pomu is Niji En's ace lol

>>43179414
Sony Vee is around 15 to 20 already, no?

>>43179132
It’s Suisei’s favorite manga because she could relate, anon. Make of that what you will

>>43179454
I think the idea of someone rejecting HoloX's initial numbers versus Sony's tickled everyone's fancy since that would have been a historically bad career move.

>>43179419
if you consider 2.5k solo streamers "top dogs", then sure

>>43179201
Miko

Miko and YAGOO have a special connection from her history as the 2nd employee he ever hired to her needing to be saved from her early struggles. He loves her.

>>43179317
Too bad it's a one off thing thanks to that Kiara.

>>43179486
Having 2.5k solo streams would easily make anyone be in Niji's first army

>>43179484
i mean i could see it if sony made some bs offer like
>your gonna get a shoutout/cameo in one of our movies which will skyrocket your fame
its just sad that sony dumped them on the first month after they realized they would get gura numbers

>>43179417
VERSEn is literally not a vtuber agency but a multimedia project that was supposed to encompass light novels, manga, anime, fucking everything. Too bad Sony lied and there's just the vtuber channels and some short youtube videos made in Blender and After Effects. Like I'm ready to take it all back if all these proposed works eventually materialise but right now I'm pretty confident in calling it a failed project and a scam from the talents' perspective.

>>43179522
>VERSEn is literally not a vtuber agency but a multimedia project
if it quacks like a duck
walks like a duck
and looks like a duck
its a duck

>>43179512
if this is your standard
all I'm seeing is male vtubing crashing and burning in the west

>>43179317
why tempus would want to collab with them tho?
niji vtubers and fans are extremely toxic and offer nothing of value to offset that

>>43179512
Go back to /mans/ sister. A tempiss collab only beat solo Aia by less than 100.

>>43179545
>if this is your standard
Why blame me when NijiEN is the one who keeps on pumping 3views?

>>43179540
My post does include the words "Sony lied".

>>43179522
HoloX at least got a manga and Hololive is probably gonna have more multimedia works.

>>43178985
Both of those homo streams are big collabs.
Are they currently going the niji route of "exhaust every single buff out of desperation"? And barely beating small fry with them at that?

>>43179576
thats what i was implying anon with the duck being a scam since after all sony is not a stranger to scamming and vtubers

There's a lot of minecraft stream! Aaaaaa

>>43178970
>Could Cover withstand... ?
You must define that first.
Mostly yes. It will be a big PR blow but you have other talents to pull through.
One of many legs of Cover's future hangs on the finale for Sora. How they treat her and how they send her goodbye. She's the story of hololive after all.
If she ends badly, Cover will need to do some good PR gymnastics.
Will other talents be willing to stay in Cover if Sora is given the boot?
If they stay, how tense would be the relations between management and talents. Can you enjoy a streamer if she's worried or tense everyday?

>>43179590
SHUSH! Don’t spoil the ending for them.

Stars need to debut a bald vtuber so i can relate.

>>43179611
See >>43179440. Anon is just using you to help him fap.
>it’s the same anon samefagging
Oh!

>>43179317
oh, i remember some nijis went to banter with tempus boys on twitter trying to leech off of them on debut week lel

>>43179604
At least it's not HL debuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNDbNjjIEc4
Zion and Mr Koro micra?! What's going on?!

>>43178970
this corpo survived terminating their highest earners, so a runt like sora won't even be a blip of a radar to them. the only thing that can bring them down as this point is if they're caught at tax evasion.

Like watching two rats fight each other in front of a sewer drain

>>43179590
>but it doesn't count
Cope lol
How about you ask Nijis to have a collab of their own?

Current Top 10 of the Day

>>43179589
Quite ironic, isn't it?

>>43179697
Nice Z from Ars

>>43179687
FITE FITE FITE

I’m joining the boycott in solidarity with Khyo, I did NOT watch even a single Nijisanji stream today or yesterday!
>WHO’S WITH ME?

>>43179114
>Is he triggering all those transitions via a hotkey?
All vtubers do that normally. Have you never watched a stream? And I do mean actually watch the vtuber.

>>43178785
NijiEN is imploding, anon. Easier to just have them merge to the main branch since they all stream on JP hours anyway and restart the whole thing.

>>43179557
>Imagine being so low to suck Aia's dick just to hate boner Tempus
Holobronies

what's her plan today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSjKucPsEZA

>>43179769
Now post red homos numbers without the raids

>>43179751
Khyo is a homo but Niji En has even bigger homos than him

>>43179779
Who cares lamy gold today.

Aia's design is so good that it's criminal how badly it was wasted.

>>43179021
>half breed converts
yeah no

>>43179769
Lmao how did she manage to get in?
Does NijiEN even have quality control department?

What happened to HoloNiji EN collab?
They stopped completely

>>43179791
>lamy
>gold
roru

>>43179783
>Nijifag larping as Holofag spotted
There's no red homo.

>>43179817
>nijsanji
>quality
anon them having actual competent and entertaining people would be bad for their buisness model

>>43179769
Aia got 4k? Wow
>Inclining!
iLUNA is stealing HoloEN fans!

>>43179769
>>43179693
>>43178985
>Current theme of the thread

>>43179817
can't have quality when the things they pursue are money and quantity

>>43179839
OOOFFF

Why do tempus and nijien have such large amounts of mindshare in /#/

>>43179330
Sheep rejecting holox for versen may sound reasonable, but we cannot use Yagoo's statement as evidence of her rejecting the holox offer.
Poaching will be like someone like Met being transferred to VSPO. We may even stretch it into Tsuna signing to VSPO or Luna signing into Hololive.

Oh fuck the cryptic message is back. Welp there you go nijigamers

>woke up
>whoremei sub 9k on gigabuff fan game
LMAO ! RECLINING OWL WHORE GETTING WHAT SHE DESERVES!

>>43179831
>Maybe if we ignore him people will forget...

>>43179883
the absolute state

>>43179817
Niji's business model is to have talents and fillers
That girl's fate is to become a filler for the tourneys they'll eventually make

>>43179901
GREAT SUCCESS

>>43179857
Both could potentially ruin vtubing in the west

>>43178785
ACCELERATE and stack ranking. Graduate the bottom 10% every year.

>>43179824
Everyone who collabed saw their numbers recline immediately so pretty much everyone gave up on them except for Kiara

>>43179883
What the fuck is that graph.

>>43179801
He's starting to inspire more people to become ToonTubers, so we might see a surge of original ToonTuber channels in the future.

>>43179901
>using the image of a whore

>>43179522
I won't say it is a scam. It was just a bad business decision. They probably thought vtubing business is easy. Their arrogance of the top brass bit their ass.

>>43179839
>Theme of the thread
It's fucking grim bro, imagine streaming for an average of 6 hours per day just to get 800 ccv.

>>43179883
>over 2k
what's the problem, it's exceptional for a Holostar, just look at Uproar, the huge demand was clearly there

>>43179988
Yeah, my whore

Mumei silver today?

>>43179863
>sheep rejecting holox offer
source of this claim?

>>43179857
Nijikeks busy defending against Tempus fans they forgot to start Holo vs Holo shit again lmao

>>43180006
The day that whore gets global silver will be the day i cut off my penis. She has never even medaled before.

>>43179998
Most SC'd Nijigirl hilariously

just got this in my recommendation. The holoXaniplus collab cafe tour in singapore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA25k6otoOA

21jst has 5 MC streams

1M get
https://youtu.be/MK78JU18SxE
Probably one of my favorite MVs

>>43180035
>just got this in my recommendation
>10 subscribers
Sure you did, Nyn.

>>43180035
Neat. I enjoyed the Korean "tour"

>>43179824
Any NijiEN who had collab with Holo reclined. I don't know what is tge explanation of this event

>>43179997
>it's exceptional for a Holostar
I can't tell if you're being mockingly sarcastic or if the sisters are still stupid enough to use that cope.

>>43180034
>Ex-Most SC nijigirl
Oof, Can't farm those handcam stream anymore huh?

>>43180065
nice try, but i'm not a chink

>>43179998
Definitely corpo mandated. They probably have some sort of minimum watch hours quota so she's gunning for time to increase her metrics

>>43180075
Have you seen their jp counterpart?

>>43180080

>>43179824
kiara still wants to do them
selen realized mumei is a whore and is avoiding her now

>HL buff wears out
>back to MC
sigh

>>43180103
Roberu beats half of tempiss on his own

Goods unboxing

>>43180106
Kiara just want to inflate her ego I guess

>>43180106
>kiara still wants to do them
Guess we gonna wait another year unless that blue homo step in again.

>>43180044
O-overlap hell?

>>43180118
Members only

>>43180103
TempusJP is doing quite well lately

>>43180105
Are we getting ANY anni/bday 3D lives?

>>43180118
>Members only

>>43180117
You need to update your numberfagging.

>>43179857
Tempus is destroying NijiEN now so

>>43179907
not jus filters
niji doesnt want quality or entertaining people since theres a big chance they would quit once the contract is up especially with the way their percentage cut is structured

>>43180075
>just look at Uproar, the huge demand was clearly there
Can you not tell obvious sarcasm
I swear half the people in this thread can't read English

>>43180150

>>43180131
>>43180146
Oh alright them, I only just opened Youtube and didn't notice

>>43180133
That’s a fitting name, considering the highway to 3 views half of Tempus are riding now.
After “Tempus” has the same stench “Holostars” already do, I wonder if they’ll try for another rebrand or just release them with their models (heh) to become indies

>>43179984
your saying as if thats a new thing
jaden, oney, da boiz etc have been around for a long time

>>43180182
Other anon was right, that beats MOST of them on his own lmao

21JST is hilarious. Haachama + Iroha MC (2 POV), Korone + Shion MC (2 POV) and Miko MC (solo). Sometimes they just all decide to do the same thing at the same time.

>>43180158
That makes sense. No wonder they usually hold their biggest stream events on the main channel instead of the talent's. They probably don't want the talents to outgrow the company

Depressed nousagi,khyo drama fag,rabbit SC rude chatter why are nousagis like this

>>43180169
The overlap between the most obvious sarcasm and a statement by their smartest sister is startlingly large anon.

>>43180182
Damn, Roberu leeching on girls brings a lot of numbers. Tempus should follow his example like good kouhais

>>43179984
>he
Stop talking about yourself in the third person. Also: usually trying to shill your stuff in this thread usually attracts more schizos than success, just saying

>>43179124
No need shes an ambassador

We have evolved
From Holo vs Holo to Tempus vs Tempus lol

>>43179883
It also happened to Aia or Scarle I forgot.
That is what happens when somebody raids a waiting room.

>>43180242
>leeching
kek, he outranks all of them (but Sango). But yeah, I wonder why no Tempus tried to collab with indie girls (other than Magni twitch clique) or NijiEN girls (with Scarle almost begging for it).
Could be a way out of the swamp for one of them.

>>43180299
Why can't NijiEn not stop from losing to Tempus?

>>43180008
Reading comprehension reps

>>43178880
Niji doko

>>43179021
>scottfalco
im surprised the guy is still standing considering he was a huge creep back in the day

>>43180242
Magni should hook-up with Saruei and become a cute vtuber couple.
#MagRei

>>43180242
he inclined because he completely removed himself from Holostars and Hololive Production as a whole
he collabed with Hololive girls in the past, but that did nothing to his numbers but this does

>>43180317
they are all free-falling at the same speed, that's why

It looks like VSPO is getting EA sponsored APEX streams. Did they get those in the past?

>>43178785
what happened now? latest yab was some insider thing with Hex, did I miss something?

>>43180331
The solution is collabing with girls outside the company?

>>43180299
>Even raid buff not working.

>>43178970
> Nijicope #17: Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>

>>43180364
the solution is becoming a manwhore with indies and small corpo girls

>>43180299
The homo one is worse. The scarle stream takes place over a 9 hour period. The homo lost his in 2hrs

>>43180364
yes, at least if you are in Holostars, do your own thing, become part of another box
the Hololive audience does, at best, not care about you if you are Holostars

>>43180329
I've unironically been waiting for this collab. Not sure why it hasn't happened yet

>>43180387
>small corpo girls
Kawaii fans arent going to like this kek

>>43180364
The solution is getting rid of the tainted "Holostars" brand that Cover refuses to easily fix and establishing himself away from it.

>>43180387
Which small corpo will work? Phase?

>>43179242
add this
> new Hololive audition page has multiple points asking whether you are contracted to another company and whether it is possible for you to leave.

>>43180367
Raids do work from time to time.
Witness how Niji EN managed to stop this homo from becoming a 3view

>>43180329
I wouldn't wish dating a french woman on any man. That's just too cruel.

>>43180356
Yes

even with IPO Cover would not fire Holostars, they would just cut their budget and put them into "maintenance mode"

ah, ollie is finally going to tell people what the hell is going on 2 days before it happens lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhRbF5ZdunI

>>43180364
They could also steal the other group's fans which Tempus has been doing now with Niji EN to a great success.

>>43180364
Yes. People are happy with Roberu fucking Mea or whatever. Just as long it's not OUR girls.

>>43180454
Depending on what that means, it would cause some issues. Astel will go super menhera if it messes with his project

Remember the rrats about b2 getting back Holo and will buy their IPO?
Good shit

>>43180454
they would shitcan them since they would still be a waste of resource even in maintenance mode since theyre still gonna be getting paid along with the other misc stuff

>>43180470
>to a great success
Anon it was funny when you were being retarded earlier but it's getting kind of old.

>>43179931
>implying they’re not in the process of ruining it already

>>43180364
Roberu does more than that. Tamaki took over the old “unity box” that had Subaru and Maimoto in the past and got a good thing going there for anyone willing to take part.
Roberu added value to it and allowed himself to become a device for a narrative which benefited him and the rest of the participants, including resurrecting Mea career outside of China.

There is no such box in the west. It could have existed, had “kson gang” panned out. It’s a pity, kson had a good idea and a good thing going.

>>43180492
i'm unironically okay with b2 and holo partnership.

>>43180470
man, a lot of nijis wouldn't have been 3views if not for tempus

>>43180482
I wonder about the composition of Mea's fanbase.

Why this one sperg keep pushing about his forced theory on Tempus stealing NijiEN fans?
Does he think we couldn't recognize his writing style? He do all this for 24/7 without getting paid

>>43180521
Kson gang was two VOMS members and ribbon, I think. That was a fated to be a failure

>>43180422
>Phase
>The company that says "male on stream" and just had a yab with Lia's groomer
Hilarious. Their fans hate males and their talents are even especially wary of them since so many of the EN ones are groomers and weirdos. At most you could get a few interviews with Pippa, but there's no way tranny management would allow a collab with the "shoot up a Walmart" girl.
Vshojo would be the best bet in terms of size and shit, since all the other companies are either (smartly) against males or so witheringly small and yab ridden it would only hurt their brand to touch them. Ironically the indie scene is so poisonous it'd probably fucking kill them to even try.

>>43180436
Can't blame them when Tempus is out there stealing their fans.

>>43180544
sisters have to find a way to make stars look appealing or useful

>>43180544
You cannot buy true happiness.
And collecting (You)s is true happiness. Ignore that poster.

>>43180492
I thought it was bound to happen, is it not?
Wasn't b2anon said there's an attempt from b2 to clear their log on anting Holo and make HoloFES getting trend

>>43179132
It gotta be a lot more complected then that but i do think hololive has a good work culture or you would expect one of the 70 or so talents to slip up also a reason why hololive keeps inclining

>>43180313
Aside from the obvious examples, how many indie and small corpo girls actually want to collab with guys? And then NijiEN and Cover, how many hoops do you have to jump through to initiate a collab? I guess depending on its difficulty would determine how consistently they can stream with them?

>>43180579
kek keep fighting the good fight, anon

>>43180556
The idea was good tho. Had she succeeded, she could have coalesced the better English speaking and bilingual vtubers around her.

>>43179132
And guess what. Oshi no Ko author is a nijifag and has balatant record shitting on Hololive

>>43180611
>attempt from b2 to clear their log on anting Holo
nah that was just a lucky after effect due to the white monkey drama in b2 which resulted in a couple of wolf warrior accounts getting ccp disappeared

>>43178857
Is fetish for white pantyhose normal?
Asking for a friend

>>43180668
Really?

>>43180653
She would need to get other bilingual Vtubers other than Pikame. Getting involved with Kson in that level would probably make it hard or impossible to get into Hololive or Nijisanji

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1626151806362595328
Haachama was invited to this movie's premiere

>>43180579
Be honest with yourself: male vtubers are are crashing and burning in the west. While it seems the whole EN vtubing market has plunged (Thanks to the insistence of companies to shove cocks down our throats), no other group has fallen as far. Even the NijiEN girls have mostly been stable while their coworkers lose viewers. And even HoloEN looks to be returning some fans as the line in the sand is drawn regarding male collabs.

>>43180735
Dunno why Marvel keeps doing this.

>>43179480
Assuming you are not lying, was Suisei an idol like Kiara? Also, is she an Otsuka Ray?

>>43180735
>i didn't get a single ads about marvel movie anymore
How do we save marvel?

>>43180774
>was Suisei an idol like Kiara?
isnt that the reason why she went vtuber? because she failed to get in to real idolstuff

>>43180735
Haachama watches stuff other than Harry Potter and drama shows?

>>43180773
They're collecting doxx information of the Hololive members

>>43180774
Suisei was a no name Utaite that became a no name Vtuber before blowing up

>>43178785
Invent a time machine and prevent ethyria

>>43180668
Yeah lmao some of the things that happen definitely aim at hololive or corporate vtubing in general don't really get his bias since they are doing mostly everything right, holotalents also seems to have a decent amount of freedom and opportunities then again some of the parts are definitely exaggerated for entertainment purposes vtubing isn't mature enough for him to completely understand how the company works

>>43180774
She's a failure compare to kiara

>>43180759
Are you saying the reason that EN vtubing looks like it's freefalling is that its really just the males freefalling? Anyone with the numbers knows if this is true? Are the males ruining EN vtubers stats as a whole?

>>43180668
Is he a dumbass or something? Hololive doesn’t act anything like a traditional idol group with Cover going as far to defend Rushia’s alleged boyfriend yab before she screwed the pooch.
Like some of the girls are allegedly married for Christ’s sake. No body besides the hardest core of unicorns give a shit. Even Rushia wouldn’t have been abandoned by fans if she kept her mouth shut and let Cover deal with it. How is this anything compared to the weird-ass shit that goes on in real-life?

>>43180735
This seems very out of field for her, will she do a Ryan Reynolds interview now?

>>43180759
nta but you're being biased
it's not just the males who declined. just look at enna for example
niji en declined because for some reason chinks suddenly stopped watching them
everyone that's reliant on chink market is declining
small corpos are actually doing quite well atm

>>43180871
I kinda want that. I want to see the reaction of a Hollywood celebrity reacting to hachama english

>>43180907
>small corpos are actually doing quite well atm
lel
a lot of small corpos this year died anon

>>43180853
What makes a vtuber different to a normal streamer anon?

>>43180907
didn't Phase, kawaii and Idol incline?

>>43180914
There's no way she'll speak in English if that happens
And if she did, my knees would shatter

>>43180938
Ollie
Mori
Suisei
Fungus
Selen

>>43180950
Phase has gone up, but they also largely avoid males.

>>43180869
He had a Coco cameo, so I'm guessing it's more bitterness over how that was handled rather than any direct hatred.

>>43180938
If they have less subs than gura they are a vtuber

>>43180962
That's not an answer. It is markedly a lack on an answer.

>>43180950
yep
>>43180927
tsunderia was a sinking ship
doesn't change the fact that small corpos and indies have been inclining this year

>>43180991
You don't have a brain, do you?
One of the reasons yagoo put up his vtuber thing is for the streamers to hide their ugly faces on camera, at least he directly said that without being insulting.
Believe it or not, people get filtered if the ones they are seeing are flesh ore are anime drawings.
Some hate anime drawings, some love it.
I myself do not like watching flesh kson but I have no problem watching Coco.

>>43181001
and still doesnt change the fact that a lot of small corpos and even indies have been dying for a while now anon
hell kawaii losing one of their more bigger stars is the opposite of incline

>>43181075
So people like bae aren’t vtubers?

>>43181075
Again, you flee from giving an actual, direct answer and instead attempt to pad your own failure to do so with a paragraph of roughly arranged nonsense.

>>43181136
You are braindead. Here's your (You).
Thanks for the concession by the way.

>>43181173
>cant answer
>le concession
lol

>>43181075
This retard is parroting about people not having brains when he himself included Suisei, the undoxxable vtuber, into his stupid list. Might want to check where your brain is at, anon kun.

>>43180556
it could've worked until she shot herself in the foot by joining vwhores.

>>43181123
>Bae is not a vtuber
(You)

>>43180974
oh yeah just like oboretai, huge coco fan btw

I've had a great day today. Faumei MC and Moom holocure has left me satisfied. Time for some JP kino now

I think Shuba's incline was directly linked to the part when she made shubangelion, holding two of the first armies at the time (Pekora and Miko). It also had to do on how subaru picked up Pekora's old JRPG weekend slots and how Aqua/Ayame/Shion stopped streaming anymore while Subaru kept streaming. I believe this is the same as Fauna as well.

>>43181173
Have fun knowing you couldn't give an answer to a single simple question anon, thanks for the (you). At least you could manage to give me that in the end, huh?

>>43181187
I answered your question. You just dismissed it as nonsense because you are too stupid to comprehend it.
There is no point arguing against stupid people.

>>43181226
>answering using a non answer
ah yes what a classic

>>43181199
>defining feature of a vtuber is hiding an unattractive appearance behind an attractive model
>bae’s model is not attractive
>bae’s roommate is
By the definition that anon gave bae is not a vtuber

I think HoloEN can incline if they take a stand against being idols and doing that sort of thing. They've been heavily declining since they started going hard at idol activities. We know they hate it and it actively works against their numbers, which have been going down since the last HoloFes. Preparing for this HoloFes killed the interest people have for them.

>>43181265
Bae's model is attractive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhRbF5ZdunI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhRbF5ZdunI

Is the emperor finally back in business?

A vtuber is someone who has a virtual avatar. Of course there is a gray area and I have no time to argue about the gray area. Period.

>>43181192
>Suisei, the undoxxable vtuber
Did you forget we literally know what Suisei looks like thanks to her video leak that she posted on her own channel? She's fat, which explains why she got rejected by every idol agency before Hololive.

Usually with small startups like cover was back in the day where they get loans from banks and small investors, how would these both of them benefit from the sudden incline of Cover over the past years? For example, I rea that Cover started with $96k. Assuming the bank loaned them this, it would be over once the loan is paid, right? However, can this particular bank continue their relationship and ask if they could invest more on Cover?

>>43181226
You're not even talking to the same anon anymore lmao

>>43179839
Axel still playing pokemon? Holostar got different permission?

>>43181326
Well I heard Apex is making a comeback

>>43180907
>just look at enna for example
But her numbers look normal and stable. Don't tell me you fall for that schizo months ago that claimed she's 4k-5k streamer, because she was spamming buffs.

>>43181265
Wow. What a way to misrepresent my point.
I don't want to argue against monkeys who argue in bad faith.

>>43181337
All 5 pixels of her? Nice try pagpag eater, now go back inside your mudhut.

>>43181326
He's leeching VSPO girls

>>43181345
That's old, was made at the time to mock some homo sisters in the thread I think

>>43181358
>called out on his bs
>le bad faith

>>43181337
Tempting fate again are we?

>>43181334
>A vtuber is someone who has a virtual avatar
Dumbass lmao
No wonder western vtubers are in the gutter

>>43181353
theyre trying but the current meta is still shit compared to their peak

>>43181375
I am the one calling out your bs.
I bet you are also the one arguing about Niji AR live just being suspended. You have similar debate tactics.

the holox finalists mustve cried from then till now
>>43179634

>>43181338
Yeah, they can offer them loans with very low interest rates for big events

A vtuber is someone contracted to Cover corp that uses a virtual avatar to stream/make music/make short videos/sing and dance in concerts. Everyone else is just a shy streamer.

>>43181363
I know how much it hurts Hoshiyomis to confront the truth but it's better to come to terms with it sooner rather than later. Fat people can also be fashionable and stylish. I'm sure she's beautiful in her own way.

>>43181414
You're talking to several different people retard

>>43181393
Western vtubers are in the gutter because of skill issue.

>>43181441
Apparently the truth means 5 pixels for you, where's your brain now?

>>43181393
vtubers outside of holojp are in the gutter anon
its the reason why there were more graduations than debuts last year even in the indie and small corpo scene overall

https://www.youtube.com/live/m26F1jp3tQQ
Finally. Hachama has people to play Minecraft with her

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-15/amazon-s-crown-channel-on-twitch-isn-t-as-popular-as-it-seems
Somebody already post this? Something we already knew long ago though

More clip numbers.
Split today is 17.9M(-1.7M) HL to 11.3M(-860k) NJ.

>>43181497
HoloJP is dying too.

>>43181532
Graph.

>>43181338
Oh it's miyazaki bank or whatever it called i forget the exact name.
They are the third biggest bank in Japan held by Japanese government. This is probably also the reason why they holding back from IPO. Cover has good relationship with Japanese bigshot parliament which also the major stakeholder from the said Bank.

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>43181532
Split today is 4.2M(-10k) HL to 1.7M(-310k) NJ.

>>43181367
I saw some of the VSPO girls have a EA sponsored apex collab soon. Did they have those before?

>>43181578
Graph.

>>43181563
Probably also the reason on Cover has more sponsor by Japan government program than Niji

>>43181532
More clip numbers by Source.

>>43181504
After ONE (1) whole year

>>43181534
compared to the rest?
the difference and speed is huge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_pMvNHytCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_pMvNHytCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_pMvNHytCM
Gold

>>43181638
Nijisanji's roof keeps expanding. Hololive's roof is reclining.

>>43181696
Why are you lying?

>>43181415
I still think Cover should buy all the Sony vtuber assets. Saves them from recruiting and gets them some new faces on both the JP and EN side. Plus, I’d like to think if they’re yabless enough to be employed by Sony, it shouldn’t be a problem for Cover. But I know Cover values people who get along with one another and that’s certainly not a guarantee. So it’s probably a no-go.

So lamy confirmed gold today? Which stream after lamy in the overlap hell could get silver? Or will it be king with another 40k hl?

>>43181729
Miko

At the end of the day. Is going public actually bring more harm or not?

>>43181751
It obviously will.

>>43181725
They can buy them without incorporating them to Hololive. But then it would be pointless.

>>43181725
Why would cover do any of that? If the Sony vtubers are good enough to join Holo, they should apply when their contract ends

>>43181751
Look at what's happening to Nijisanji and how their talents are chaffing under the new environment.

>>43181751
cover going public would kill holostars but would also turn it into a soulless money making machine

>>43181751
every creative company that goes public has gone to absolute garbage. Just look at video games. CDPR and activision are fucking shit. It also doesn't take a genius to see how different current anykara when you compare them to ichikara

>>43180521
I mean...
Tamaki's whole thing is doing "interviews" with other chuubas where the audience can get to know them more.
Naturally this means that whoever is with her in the BOX can be very well known to the audience through just one stream.
Kson, well... she collabs with others, but the audience will only have a surface level idea of who these people are. And most of the time it's a one and done thing, so it's even more difficult to sustain that level of energy.

>>43181751
just look at whats happening in nijisanji and it will give you a clear answer that its more harmful

>>43181807
Holos aren't fragile menheras though.

>>43181807
niji culture is not compatible with a public company.

>>43181751
Tempus wouldn't have been a thing if not for Nijisanji imploding due to them going public.
Only the shareholders benefit from going public.

>>43181563
And you know many nousagis and hoshiyomis are part of the Japanese government so that also helps

>>43181881
niji culture is actually the one thats most compatible with a public company

>>43181888
You forgot the watamates

>>43181729
>40k King
A-anon...

>>43181751
There’s two reasons to go public, either you’re raising capital or looking to cash out. Neither of those apply to Cover.

>>43181751
"going public" is basically "selling out" most of the time.
You're selling "imaginary things" (i.e. stocks) for an inflation of cash.
A rare 5 or 10% of the companies do this when they need money to expand and reinvest into their own infrastructure, but 90% of companies do this when the owner wants to move on to the next venture and needs the cash for it.

>>43181838
>He types this, knowing full well that the sarcasm is thick enough to slice with a fucking butter knife
>>43181881
Considering how they were operating before, yea, it was a poor fit. Alas, investors wanted to cash out, and CASH OUT they did.

>>43181894
please share it with the class, anon-kun
t. don't watch niji

>>43181751
You only go public if you want to cash out of the company or if you need funding to fund some big ambitious project. Niji doesn't have any big new projects or anything. It's just the same old thing that they do every year. So the purpose of them going public is to cash out.

>>43181881
Nijisanji follows UUUM business model which has gone public a long time ago. It's literally a cash cow specifically designed by Riku.

>>43181751
Going public is only good for Engineering industrial or sales company.
Cover and Anykara both are entertainment industry which lean very heavy on creativity of their talents and liver.
Unless they have a clause on "investor can only invest on money and can't touch on company subject and decision" then going public is a bad idea

>>43181751
You will get uniform cheapskate merchs & official Hololive gacha game.

>>43181914
>LOL
KING, NO!

>>43181838
lol
lmao even
I'd argue holols are more menhera on account of lack of men, this bringing down the average.

>>43181935
only the liver that can secure good returns get funded while those who dont wont get anything

>>43181972
Did you forget about tempus?

>>43181981
>if you print, you get funding
that's how business works. How is that incompatible with public company culture?

>>43181751
Niji original culture on making skits and have fun between livers apparently are not good for investor. Now they are more corporate and souless. Dunno about Cover

>>43181956
Is Facebook/Meta like that?

>>43182030
thats why i said that niji culture is the one thats most compatible with a public company anon >>43181894
eigo reps pls

>>43181972
Fucking retard look at the top holos they are unironically shewed and business oriented there is a greater amount of non menheras on holo then menheras

>>43181983
Irrelevant shitters

> Get caught playing Valo with Axia again
> Set up Valo stream immediately afterwards
what's her endgame here?

>>43180668
Like what?