/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>43128547
Shion, rare.

tfw both shion and subaru didn't get the mouse cursor patch

Holocure should implement coop multiplayer. If Ikki Unite can make it work, then Holocure could.

>>43128741
You expect too much when the leaderboard isn't fixed after 5 versions

I want sub character system. Main girl + support skills from sub girl. This would make the game more fun with a lot of combinations.

>first item Milk
>second item Limiter
Why is Shion such a size queen

I bet Polka is gonna get a mid/end boss ref and it'll be the Cartoon Polka from that Ei Ei Oh style MV

>>43129093
doesn't steam have their own online server or something like that?

>>43130117
Nah, it'll be Swolka

>Already got all the upgrades, outfits, and character at rank 21 at the minimun
>Still only have 3 character at Gachikoi level
Farming is basically unnecessary in this version

>>43130291
Holocure is not released on steam though. Pretty sure you have to pay $100 yearly to do that

>>43130406
I don't even bother getting gachikoi on all of them, only for my oshi while for the rest I just clear S2H with them and that's it.

I still think Ina is mostly fine regarding her skills but for some reason I had a hell of a time clearing stage 2 hard with her. Two if those times were just me spacing out on Nodoka.
Those three potted plants…

I think there should be a second level to Stamps Shop Upgrade to activate a Sub Stamps level where they have halved effects.

>>43131503
That's kind of overkill honestly.

>>43128644
oh fuck that means Subaru isn't playing the buffed version to herself?

>>43128547
Shions smug face always makes me laugh.

>>43128644
Didn't that feature come with with main patch?

>>43131805
>>43131907
She's using controller so it's normal to not see the cursor. I'll have to check the version number in the vods

>just eliminated a level up for one of my skills like an absolute retard
Haha

>>43131503
Solo weapon is already strong as it is, why would you buff them

>>43132052 (me)
Still won tho

They should as a cat ear item, since basically every Holo has them for their model now and uses them nonstop.

Shion beat stage 2 using herself.

>>43133432
I'm actually surprised those don't exist in the game yet and whatever it would do, the holos with cat ears in one form or another would get added bonus from them.

>theres an update today
What happened?

>>43133865
Might be making +1 projectile on Broken Dreams to affect the raindrops instead of the bubble which summons another set of raindrops. I tried using Aqua on time stage and it felt slower in killing the enemies.

Is teleportation not a form of travel?

Black Magic doesn't make Stolen Piggy Bank proc..

Subaru cleared stage 3 on her first try because her character is just that OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBCu6t8F_Xc

Couch potato really wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Did it first try with gachikoi Irys

Is Halu a necessity for getting good times on Time mode?
The enemy spawns don't seem to be fast enough without it

>>43134669
Halu doesn't exist in time mode

>>43128547
How gen 2 power should've been

>>43134256
nope. It technically counts steps, not distance traveled

>>43135262
RIP

What does eliminate do?

>>43135580
it throws that option into the graveyard so you'll never see it in that round again

>>43135580
>Get this shit out of my sight and never show it again

My first attempt at Stage 2 Hard. I'm not good at bullet hells.

What's the Kronii build boys?

I still think Elite Cooking is the better spider cooking collab, but honestly Yagoo scaling kind of makes it irrelevant. Seems like a super tanky build with lifesteal that doesn't rely on kills is probably going to go the furthest in endless mode. Mel is probably the front runner, though Gura/Irys/Sora perhaps options

Mumei debuff when? She is way too fucking OP that make the game boring

>>43135762
Same as anyone else really. Her bubbles got haste capped so you can't go infinite anymore, so just build whatever good collabs scale with haste. Elite Cooking/Broken Dreams/MiComet all fine options, throw in Snow Flower for CC and maybe Dragonfire if you need boss killing

>>43135816
>make the game boring
Then don't play her? Or if you insist on playing her, remove shop upgrades to artificially inflate difficulty

>>43135866
I don't really know what weapons are good lol I've been mostly winging it. I need tier lists for this sort of thing, I don't want to be figuring it out on my own

I keep missing on the rare blue weapons because I select things too quickly.
Irritating.

>>43135760
ouch
Try using Mel or Irys, their healing makes it such that you can tank those bullets without issue

>>43134669
I literally just found out right now that Marketing bugs the spawns for the timed stage but in the opposite way of what it's meant to do, for whatever reason it spawns less. I spent all day yesterday trying to beat my 5:40 and after turning off Marketing (as I just have it naturally on) I slaughtered my my time first try getting 4:46 doing practically what I've always done. Make sure Marketinf is turned off.

>>43135951
Yeah, Irys is really strong from what I can remember. I like playing with Mori the most, though.

>>43136008
aren't shop upgrades supposed to be standardized for time stage?

Wish more items increased Haste

>>43136052
They are, but for whatever reason Marketing is bugged. Rerolls and Eliminates are also determined by the shop aswell and not standardized

>>43128547
What do you guys think is the most controversial reference that is likely to be added?

>>43136221
Probably Rushia or Coco

>>43136252
More than Mana Aloe?

>>43135760
Nodoka's danmaku have a max range, if you have problems with them, try moving away from her.

>>43136302
I don't think they would add her, since she wasn't around for as long as Rushia or Coco. That would be like if they added Hitomi Chris in this update

>>43136302
Aloe already has a reference in game, has since day one, and no one cares.

What the fuck are we gonna spend a million coins on next update?

>>43136221
Holostars.

Valid strats for endless? Looks like you don't need a single defensive or healing item if you just kill the Yagoos before they even touch you, the headphones were completely pointless. If I only went with full on offensive items I bet I could get to 40+ minutes with no healing at all

>>43136488
A slot machine that gives 3 random effects for the next stage you play.

>>43135907
Best collabs for general damage are Elite Cooking, Broken Dreams, Micomet, and Flattening Board (not as good on Kronii as she doesn't get the flat bonus)
Best collabs for focused damage are Dragonfire and Bone Bros
Best secondary collabs are Rap Doog (damage increase on enemies) and Snow Sakura (freeze enemies).
The rest of the collabs you can pretty much ignore outside edge cases.

>>43136660
>If I only went with full on offensive items I bet I could get to 40+ minutes with no healing at all
Possible, but unlikely. Yagoo's scale pretty hard every minute, and even full offense they will quickly survive through your damage. See >>43135795 for full offense Bae runs ending at the 38 minute increase. But hell, give it a try and see how far it gets.

>>43135795
No one disagree that Elite is better for characters that care about rapid hits like baelz.

>>43135760
Wow two supers.

Is Matsuri the most "active" character? between spinning and your special she requires way more player input that the other characters who at most need to aim their main weapon

>>43137570
It is also so annoying to knock away important targets with her main weapons when you want to focus fire on them

>>43137627
I also thought the same, but I understand the reason for it
Since she expects the player to be more concentrated on the timing for the spins the knockback is there to give the player some breathing room

>>43137776
Except it isn’t a constant knock back, it is 10%. All fine and good until you accidentally knock a boss or healer into the back of a pack.

>>43136670
I would pay 2500 coins to start a stage with Halu/stamps

>>43132018
It's 0.5.1676443007

>>43137570
I get the feeling Matsuri would have trouble playing herself.

>>43136488
Increase the options that only go up to 5 currently to go to 10.

>>43137627
I just wish she had a bowling effect. Knock enemies into other enemies and walls for a bunch of damage.

>>43138095
I get the feeling most Holos would have trouble playing her

does Horror benefit from the +projectile enchantment? I'm unsure if Curse can get it and I know cooking can't.

>>43138146
>Starting the level with 10 ranks of haste

>>43138307
No.
You can check the weapon types in the armory.

Does shionko hat affect Halu water?

>>43138307
Assuming +1 projectile rule is similar to Aqua's, then no since only those with the 3 bullets icon are affected by it.

>>43138378
dang, would've made it slightly more fun to go for every now and then

>X-Potato is a multi projectile weapon
>Rap Dog isn't

>>43138978
What happens if you collab Rap Dog with a +1 projectil potato?

>>43138978
>No +1 projectile to I’m Die, Than You Forever
I’m not surprised and it isn’t that sort of weapon, but it is still a shame.

>>43138245
I had trouble playing her.
Of course, I was using the classic keyboard controls at the time.

>>43138192
That would be great, there is already coding for enemies hurting other enemies with Choco.

>>43135760
>Mori
Oh yeah doing it with her was a pain.

>>43135760
>No Plushie
Did that to yourself

>>43136118
Apparently marketing was bugged before yesterdays update and did nothing at all.
I was suspicious of that, it didn’t seem to do anything.

>>43139245
I always try to get Dragonfire with her since the DPS seems really good once you activate her special. I was able to kill both of the 10 min bosses in less than a minute.

>>43139626
Dragon fire is a good idea to get for Nodoka in general.

>>43139626
>>43139923
I aim for BoneBros since my aim sucks when I'm running around too much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc
me with krone + gold skull wep buff

>>43138095
Nonsense, she plays with herself every day.

>>43129181
That's an interesting concept

haste juice on irys with the greed stamp gives pretty good coinage, if only i wasnt retarded and was able to live longer

>>43138322
>each level above 5 is 1,000,000
Still worth it, even if greed gets nerfed.
Other modifiers going all the way to 10 would also be overpowered for the current levels but it would make sense to have the static bonuses all have a consistent pattern. I suppose they are just balanced with 5 in mind, so increasing further would require the amount gained each level to be lowered.
I can’t think of much else that is simple and obvious. Perhaps make stamps a 5 level purchase, where you get 1 stamp slot per purchase so 5 total. I can’t really see things to purchase to actually make the game harder, marketing doesn’t even count.

>>43135816
She was nerfed a bit yesterday during the update.
>Range reduced from 150 to 120.
>Awakened projectile speed reduced from 17 to 16.

noel better just get a mace for her weapon

>>43137570
her special is a rhythmic beat, and if you're stupid at those games its a useless special.

>>43141330
Noel's gonna have ''all weps are x% bigger'' as a passive

>>43140103
Bonebros is pretty good too, especially with haste.

I want a shop upgrade that increases the drop rate of super items....

Can some one tell what I am doing wrong? Even stacking damage items i getting overwhelmed in Stage 2 Hard.

>>43141834
and thats okay

I just hope kay doesn't do something stupid like "haha noeflare"

>>43142034
I thought about that too, could be cool. The super drop rate is 1/20, 5%. Perhaps 5 ranks at +1% per rank so it becomes 1/10.
It is hard to imagine something they could add that wouldn’t seem overpowered since anything new is going to add more power. I guess they could add more features like giving enemies stat bonuses or lower your stats below the normal to increase the difficulty, similar to Halu without the coins or spawn increase, for masochists out there. Would be odd to make that cost coins.
I do hope Nenechi gets some kind of bonus to super drops, since she is “Super Nenechi”.

So if you want to do the couch potato achievement you basically HAVE to reroll until you get limiter right? Otherwise die and try again?

>>43142382
He didn’t do it for Korone and Okayu.

>>43142456
>The super drop rate is 1/20
really? because it doesn't feel like it

>>43142462
Amelia and others with familiars can have them pick up xp for them. Amelia is particularly easy because of her special for bosses and bubba for xp.

>>43142357
Nurse horns is kinda bad, but otherwise I don't see a huge issue. What stamps are you using? I ran Shiraken, Akukin, and the Size one for the most coverage possible.

>>43142357
Also breastplate is bait, you are better off with Daki

>>43142357
You're taking the wrong damage item, why would you even take Gorilla Paw on Aqua? Also gimping your own Spd with Breastplate doesn't make any sense, you don't even have a Body Pillow to capitalize on the damage reduction it gives.

>>43142357
drop horns for gakibracers

>>43142514
Stage 2 hard has 11 bosses dropping boxes to get, 12 of counting nodoka on endless. So because of probability, every 2 completed runs you have a little over a 65% chance of getting at least one super item… provided you kept a slot open for it. You’re likely to have all item slots full by the time you reach the last few bosses so the actual odds of getting it in runs becomes lower.
For additional information, there is a 9% chance of any individual box being a triple box and you can get those even when your slots are full so they seem even more common.

>>43142744
Chestplate goes better with headphones than Daki since defense bonuses are multiplied for diminishing returns, while the dodge is a separate function that gets full benefit and still triggers the damage reflect.

I don't understand how the max health upgrade math works out. I set it to level 3 as a test, and it's 4% per level. Should be +12% right?
Fubuki goes from starting at 55 at base to 67, nearly a 22% increase
Ame goes from 75 to 87 (16% increase)
Sana goes from 80 to 92 (+15%)

>>43142462
I've beaten a few runs without it while being surrounded by a rainbow ocean of exp. It's not impossible

>>43143360
It doesn’t, it just gives 4hp a level. Don’t believe their lies.

>>43142462
>>43142573
Sana can use her special to vacuum up the xp too.

>>43142594
I don't found a single non-joke stamp.

Bros...

>>43143624
Surprising.

>>43143360
>Fubuki goes up 12HP
>Ame goes up 12 HP
>Sana goes up 12 HP
Starting to see a pattern here

>>43143617
That is the problem. Aqua's broom has ramping damage due to the Wet mechanic, but because of that it's base damage is a bit low; great for bosses, but weaker against normal waves. Without the damage boosting from the Aqukin stamp, i'm honestly surprised you made it that far, so props.

I FUCKING HATE THE THIN WALL IN THE OFFICE

>>43144860
There's a lot of fucky terrain in the office.

So what's the trick to beating the time stage quickly? I've tried it with mumei a few times but I can't seem to get below 8 minutes

>>43143941
I see, after that i give another try and very early got akuki, shiraken and usaken and facerolled the stage.

>>43142357
Glasses are a waste of levels and a slot in stage mode.

>>43141375
I hate that special so much and I think it's useless even though I play rhythm games daily not osu

>>43143617
I'm this anon >>43142744 and this is pretty much how you play Aqua, just go full offensive. Her kit pretty much already tell you what are the best stats for her to invest in, namely Crit and Haste, with some mandatory HP, Atk and Spd as usual. For stamps, aside from the joke stamps(RGB, Reverse, Trumpet), all of them work with her.
>Atk Up, Akukin, Usaken, Shiraken, Crit Up, Haste
Deeps
>Knockback, Lifesteal, Stun
Survival, keep in mind that the broom has knockback inherently, so Lv3 Knockback Stamp will push the enemies pretty far, making you space to wade through them
>Weaken
A little bit of both from the above, don't underestimate 10% Def debuff since Wet will keep on ramping in stacks
>Slow
Downgrade from Weaken Stamp, but still useful if you have nothing else
>Size Up
It kinda works, won't increase your DPS visibly but hitting more at once is always nice

In this run I had Akukin, Shiraken and Haste and ended up getting 100% Crit from level ups, shitting 3k damage a broom on Nodoka before she died.

>>43145350
The trick before was using the bugged broken dreams collab with Aqua’s +1 projectile, resulting in the entire attack doubling.
I think you’d still want to use broken dreams now even after that has been patched. Mumei got a 5:30 using Mumei with broken dreams (though she had a super gorilla paw) so aqua and the big aren’t needed.

Apparently people here think that Fauna is braindead op. Do you guys do solo weapon on her?

>>43145788
Are you the same guy from before trying to start a new argument within inflammatory loaded statements?
> Apparently people here think that Fauna is braindead op
Cite your sources where this was discussed, use the archive if needed.

>>43142382
He only seems to do that on collabs and it's unlikely they'll both get weapon drops given that Noel already has 2 items.

>>43143002
They can still drop when you have a full inventory, so that doesn't affect your odds of seeing one.

>>43143624
I always wondered what happened in that scenario.

mio is surprisingly pretty good

>>43145785
Well it's also possible that her Broken Dreams had +1 Projectile enchant, resulting in the same result as what normally happened with Aqua.

>>43145982
too bad breastplate is a mediocre item. milk is good at least.

>>43145967
>Are you the same guy
no. and take your meds

I know it's the point, but I really wish the upgrade has some sort of small boost pity system where it just increase a little every time you fail to upgrade. Running and failing 7 anvils in a roll really sucks ass. It doesn't even have to be a huge boost, just something like a 5% each failure and afterwards maybe reset it back to the 25%. It would be nice since then the anvils will not just vanish because you have shit for luck.

>>43146048
The only problem with Breastplate is that Body Pillow exists. I've been using the plate because I didn't know that pillow got buffed and I was clearing 2H.

>>43146155
and slowing you down sucks, unless you do a shackle run

>>43145982
>They can still drop when you have a full inventory, so that doesn't affect your odds of seeing one.
I don’t believe so. If all your item slots are full you are ineligible for a super item so you always fail the check because you can’t drop or replace items you already have. Having items with super versions already doesn’t impact the chance though, you still have a 1/20 but it just will never roll that item from the super item list if you get the 5% super.

So who will eventually be the Queen Sigma in this game? The character you get for unlocking everything else and by far is more powerful than any other character in the game?

>>43146193
20% slow is less than 2 levels of +speed%. Since chestplate is 3 levels and pillow is 5, you can spend those extra 2 levels on speed and have +4% speed over the Pillow. This is especially true for a 1 item run where stat ups are in abundance.
However, it is generally worse at actual defense than the daki, missing 5% defense and the shield. The damage can be useful if you mess up since it may kill an enemy so they can’t hit you multiple times but is best used with characters that have dodge or invulnerability functions because a “dodged” or otherwise missed attack still triggers chestplate, letting it be used offensively.

>>43146496
My opinion is on Irys for the sheer fact she's godly when it comes to farming for money, although I wonder if Mumei would be just as good with her homing feather. My bias cause she's the first and only one I got Gachikoi and I like real Irys too

>>43146496
A-chan? Yagoo?

>>43146622
Nah, there is no Queen Sigma in the game yet.

>>43146536
its basically a "pick your poison"

>>43146112
Just don't be a lucklet bro it's literally that easy

>>43146660
There is some strategy to it at least.
Picking the chestplate on a character without innate speed bonuses on a normal stage 2 hard run could be asking for trouble because of Nodoka’s beam.

>>43146622
heh, nothin' personnel

>>43146218
I've had one drop while all of my slots were occupied.

>>43147393
Sounds like a bug if it did happen. Got any proof? You can’t get a super item or any new item if you don’t have room for it.

>>43146536
Can Breastplate damage crit? I'm wondering if a character like Choco might benefit from a porcupine strategy.

>>43147454
I didn't take a screenshot so no. I was focused on the run because I was several attempts into my first 2h clear.

Does anyone know how the hell to play Ayame optimally? I heard some people say she's supposed to be a stage diver like Fubuki but she's pretty bad in comparison to her.

>>43147489
That is a good question, I don’t know. The damage is based on your attack rather than the damage you tool so it might be able to crit like other attacks. Though it isn’t an actual attack so maybe not, or maybe even if it does it won’t trigger on hot effects since it isn’t an actual attack. Lotta maybes.

>>43147489
Doesn't really matter, Breastplate damage will never keep up. It's damage only scales off of your ATK stat, same as skill do, so they fall behind real quickly

>>43147628
She is a bit clunky because she wants enemies close but even her own main weapon attacks end up hitting outside of here skill radius and her main weapon has a really awkward minimum attack speed that squanders her +40% haste.
I saw a build were someone used her invulnerability (triggered after several hits) with Pikipikipimam to build up special and then use the invulnerability and special to clean house with the extremely rapid attacks. That was a 1 weapon run though, otherwise with +40 haste she can make good use of most weapons, just ensure enemies live long enough for you to tag with your blades before they die to keep the haste going.

>>43147874
Depends on if the damage has a cooldown. Even if it does, it could be useful for characters that get invulnerable phases anyway.
And if it triggers other effects then it could be useful too, though without testing I expect it won’t.

>>43147874
Some characters like Choco have effects that trigger on crits. In Choco's case crits have a chance of charming non-boss enemies, so even a bunch of meaningless 2 damage crits would be useful.

>>43148111
If there is a cooldown it's 0.1 sec at the longest, but just from personal observation I don't think there is one.

>>43148308
I didn’t see one either when I used it on Shion to attack during the invulnerable portion of her special.

>>43147956
Ayame feels a bit underpowered compared to everyone else who released. No inherent damage increases in her skills and that notable delay in her attack swings makes a her main weapon feel like a wet noodle imo.

>>43148893
Haste is very powerful and +40% is a big chunk. Do you only think she is underpowered because you were using her on a 1 weapon run?

>>43149182
Nah I maxed Fandomed her before doing solo weapon runs actually. It's just outside her haste buff I'm not entirely sure how the rest of her build is supposed to synergies. Nakirium requires you to be up close to get speed and experience but Collabs often kill outside her intended radius, Ayame Defense Field requires eating multiple hits to proc, she's on the lower end of health, and her main weapon isn't that great.

Her kit "looks" like it should be an up close melee build like Suisei, Korone, Kiara or a stage diver like Fubuki but outside Lady of Oni a lot or her stuff doesn't seem to work that well compared to everyone else.

>>43149182
NTA but personally I felt the opposite, her 1 weapon run at least worked on S2H until Mikodanye and A-chan before having trouble keeping up in damage for the rest of the stage, but on normal runs once you start mixing different collabs she won't be able to keep her 40% Haste consistently anymore because of wet noodle damage of main weapon and collabs killing the enemies first.

>Gura is currently my highest G-Rank'd girl and the only one at level 2 fandom
>I haven't played a single game with her

>>43146112
It certainly doesn't even feel like 25% is accurate. I must have burned through close to 200 anvils to end up with only +25. Some small type of pity would be appreciated.

>>43147489
Ended up answering my own question. The 69! and 41 are crit and normal Breastplate triggers.

>>43149741
You don’t need to kill enemies with her weapon, just hit them with it and defeat them with anything. I didn’t have too much trouble with it in stage 2 hard with Halu as I was running over to enemies to bop them, though there were some lulls where it dipped down.
I imagine it could be tougher in the easier stages where enemies die even more quickly.

>>43150076
Exciting anon, probably gets crit damage bonuses too. The only question now is whether it triggers other on-crit effects.

>>43149648
On regular runs she suffers about as much as Korone where it becomes a problem to keep your haste stacks up due to collabs killing everything. I've found both to be more enjoyable on single weapon runs.
>>43149741
I've made Ayame work by trading in defense for more offense. This build ended up being very similar to that other anon's but I tried out idol costume instead of piman and face mask instead of gorilla. Access to special more often in some form is the way to go since it's where your heavy damage to bosses come from and I was avoiding taking hits until ready to trigger her shield.

>>43150508
I think some value changes and radius adjustments would make me like Ayame's playstyle more than I currently. Making making the attack delay between her swings shorter, make required radius of Nakirium and Lady of Oni bigger and like 15-20% more attack damage would make her feel a hell of a lot better to me.

>>43150508
I think some value changes and radius adjustments would make me like Ayame's playstyle more than I currently do. Making the attack delay between her swings shorter, make required radius of Nakirium and Lady of Oni bigger and like 15-20% more attack damage would make her feel a hell of a lot better to me.

>>43150921
>Fixed secondary attacks not inheriting some properties from the primary attack.
At least they (seemingly) fixed her spirit orbs, so that's helpful

>>43151086
Their also still patching and adjusting characters so I imagine it's only a matter time until they make an adjustment to some of the "weaker" characters.

>>43150921
Also had issues with Shion. She has the damage but not the attack speed to deal with huge mobs without stamps. Almost makes me think Ayame and Shion should have their bonuses swapped so Ayame gets atk increase while Shion would get haste.
>>43151086
Didn't know they fixed that. I'll check out later how much of a difference that makes.

Do stamps affect all weapons or just your character's unique weapon?

>>43152232
just the unique

>>43152232
Just your base weapon. Which means in a 1 weapon run, you can literally never beat the damage output of
>Haste Up
>Projectile Up
>Solo
combo

Whats the best Ina build?

>>43152425
I gachikoied Ina just using flattening board + dragonbreath combo. You can add Rap Dog / Broken Dreams / The freeze thingy as support. On itens just get anything really.. make sure to grab plushie for defense and you are golden.

>>43130117
I K P

I don't know if I'm going to make it bros...

>>43152811
x means done or not done?

>>43152901
Done. Only got stage completion progress saved from the few couple of runs I did before the update dropped for some reason or else I would have been 60% done on most of the old characters

>>43146496
Nothing. Literally nothing will ever be Sigma levels of overpowered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwTQrGSeae0

>>43152811
Not wanting to rain on your party, but why keep an Excel of which levels you have beaten when the game tells you?

>>43153064
It's pretty hard to get an overview since you have to go into each character and check each level instead of just seeing something like "2/5 levels cleared" when the character is selected

Well this feels a lot easier now.

>>43152987
I didn't get any of it saved lel. And went out of my way TO finish every stage with every character in the previous version.
It's gonna be what, 5 months 'til the next update? Just take it slow. Play a different character on a different level everytime you feel the itch to play some Holocure and soon enough you'll have done it all with a few months still to spare.

is there a way to see all characters personal skills without going in game with them

>>43153128
...That's already the case anon.
Look at the Trophy symbol in the bottom left corner, opposite the G-Rank.

>>43153350
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/HoloCure_Wiki

>>43150508
>>43153151
Shaved off 24 seconds under almost the same conditions as last time. Got usaken stamp first, akukin around the 13min mark but got haste up shortly after instead of around 19mins in.

>>43153394
Oh, I thought that was just for how many times you had won stage mode in total. Still nice to have a more comprehensive overview

>>43153151
Yeah the fixed spirit orb spawns makes crowd clear better.

>>43154107
Also I found out if you position yourself directly under or on top of a boss you can hit them with both the front and back swings. Ended up nuking most bosses after doing that while popping ult.

>>43154407
I had a suspicion that was the case but wasn't exactly sure. I guess that's why the exploding boss and Mikodanye get deleted even without akukin.

>>43136221
The CEO OF SEX

>>43154794
It works better with big boss due to their large hit boxes but it's extremely jank against A-chan and Nodaka. Large bosses can get hit easily by the sides of the katana swings but with smaller bosses your essentially hitting them with the tip of the corners of the swings.

>>43136252
coco has an entire base weapon dedicated to her

>>43136221
Coco is fine, Rushia is iffy but theirs already a small reference to her in Stage 3, Holostars honestly won't be that big of a deal since by the time we get to them theirs going be so many characters that I'm pretty sure good chunk of people wouldn't even get to playing with them plus they'd be separated in their own category like every other gen.

Aloe "could" be controversial but more so because coming up with a moveset for her would just be the equivalent coming up with an original character. Hitomi Chris would be the most controversial I think since she's the equivalent of Voldemort in Hololive.

Oh also Artia and most of HoloCN. I think a good portion of the fan base is now privy to the fact that certain members of HoloCN were part of the Chinese crusade against Coco.

>>43156642
They really had no choice. China citizens suffer legal consequences and ostracization if they even mention Taiwan at all.
The moment that Coco found herself on the chinese government's blacklist, HoloCN were forced to stop associating with her. Or else.

Ina is kinda bad isnt she

>>43157696
To my knowledge Spade said both information and Yogiri said nothing as well (Yogiri lives in Taiwan in fact) so most of them would have been fine if they just did nothing but instead a number of them went full wolf warrior.
>>43157761
Ina is pretty good post rework from what I've seen.

>>43158024
Fuck auto correct I meant to say both Spade and Yogiri said nothing.

>>43158024
>(Yogiri lives in Taiwan in fact)
Yogiri is probably blacklisted too. You'd surprised how autistic the chinese government is at preventing any Taiwanese resident from having any fame and influence.

>>43156642
Yeah HoloCN is def not getting added imo

>>43136380
Hololive actually had a fanbase by the time Aloe debuted, so unlike Chris a whole lotta people got to see her and get attached to her. Plus the nature of her exit was a lot more sympathetic, memorable, and generally hurt more. FFS Gen5 was originally marketed AS the HoloFive.
Point being there's a world of difference. Sure she might not make it in anyway but she's still about several degrees more likely than Chris.

>>43157696
stop associating =/= rallying the mobs. AFAIK only Artia got outed as doing the latter.

I used to think Korone was bar-none one of the worst characters in the game but I see that she is a coin-farming GOD.
I just happened to pick up the greed stamp early on while doing a lazy stage 2 run just so that I could get True Koronosuki (Stage 2 normal was the only clear I didn't have) and still ended up with this many coins. I still think she generally sucks but now I kinda want to do a dedicated coin-farm build with her.

>>43159512
Forgot my pic

How far were your upgrades before you completed Stage 2 Hard?

>>43159849
I've already had max upgrade before this update came out

>>43136221
Not controversial but:
>the most obscure ex-Holomem that nobody ever even brings up was perfectly-suited for this game
Roru.
Rumao even.

>>43159594
that's really not a lot compared to what irys can do anon, but coin farming is so trivial now just do it with whoever you have fun with. pic related is just an early greed stamp, if you min-max the entire run with her you can still get so much more than this

>>43160119
So that's why some people are saying it's easy...

>>43160353
You compared a gold-farming build to a non-gold farming build. You are stupid.

>>43160592
yep you got it anon, that's the difference

>>43159512
As far as single weapon runs go she's probably one of the strongest now. Single weapon and stamp system did wonders to indirectly fix her lackluster kit.

>>43161008
She's absolutely NOT one of the strongest. I've had a much easier time with most of the cast.

>>43161099
How the fck are you even building her to not have an easy time with Korone?

It took me three tries, but once I got Broken Dreams as the first collab everything went somewhat smoothly. Now I just have to do this with every single other character to gachikoi them all.
God help me.

>>43161389
He's a troll, just ignore him.

>>43161432
I've been getting gachikoi on a bunch of girls too and Kronii's playstyle is probably my favorite so far. I refuse to play without Ring of Fitness though because her massive tits need to be put to use

>>43161389
It doesn't really matter how I build her. She doesn't really have a good kit so nearly everyone else just has smoother runs.

Suisei's main weapon needs a buff.
It's way too slow and the attack range is too small that it sucks against bosses like Nodoka even with the big numbers.
Or please just buff melee weapons in general.

>>43161825
It actually was buffed, it was much tinier before 0.5.

>>43161599
>I refuse to play without Ring of Fitness though because her massive tits need to be put to use
Agreed, but only on regular stages. On hard versions the slow debuff that Broken Dreams inflicts plus the higher fire rate is simply too valuable to pass up for a collab that does what Rap Dog already does, but without the defense debuff on hit. It simply doesn't stack up when you're being swarmed and shot at.

>>43136221
rushia. the fact that kay even left in the butterfly is risky enough. I wonder if they'll even give rushia a single weapon or item down the line. no the cutting board does not count.

>>43160353
wait do the kusogaki shackles remove the bonus health enemies get from halu?

>>43164022
No, it only removes debuffs on the player.

>>43164022
that was the day of the patch, i think they changed the wording on the shackles since

Yagoo is simply too tanky, i'm not getting any exp.
Lessons learned - al those defensive items not needed, only plushie and full meal is enough. It's better to change headphones and bandage for halu and credit card/energy drink.
Lifesteal from eldrich horror is useless, knockback from stream of tears - the same. Snow flower sake - very solid, saves you a lot.
What are the 2 biggest pure dps collabs to change eldrich horror and stream of tears with? Elite cooking and flattening board?
Also - holy shit, buff bubble visibility, i can't see shit in the sea of Yagoos, it's literally impossible to see it.

>>43164500
I think Yagoos stop dropping xp after a certain point.

>>43164500
i'm gonna sound like a newfag but why did that yagoo image ever get made? I dont get it.

>>43164598
My kill count stopped moving at some point, so i think problem was with my dps.

>>43164631
I don't remember. Was it Kerin? Or just some random shitposters on the internet.

I didn't feel like running Irys through stage 2 normal to finish out Gachikoi, so I just parked her against a wall and aimed up. The shocks cover the sides so everything died until it was time to go fight A-chan.

>>43161008
No way in hell. She doesn't come close to Kiara, Sora, Mumei, IRyS, Gura, Ina, Fauna or Choco... and those are just the ones I've tried.

Is Mukirose the most broken skill in the game? Aki can do Marketing and Halu 5 without any issues from people even getting near her once she gets a single AoE collab that applies a debuff.

>>43165221
I think I'm dumb because I don't know how to Mumei. I either get killed at the start or around the mid-game.

>>43162601
She's getting put in, absolutely. Even though she was fired it's not like the girls are forbidden from mentioning her.

>>43165589
Are you maxing out her main weapon before doing anything else (except grabbing Halu if you want)?
If not you should be doing that. Mumei is basically unkillable for the first 5~ minutes if her weapon is maxed out because nothing can even get close to her. You don't even have to aim. That lets you focus on getting your build ready while not running for your life.

god i love playing as roboco
>phd in picking up glasses
>100 levels starting
>any build you want

>>43165888
I started doing that, mostly I have troubles escaping swarms if I get too close. I also just don't use the special because I'm paranoid about the possibility of missing drops.

>>43161599
>I refuse to play without Ring of Fitness though because her massive tits need to be put to use
I'm glad someone else feels this way.

>>43165993
Mumei is one of those characters where it is probably easier to do a one weapon run.

Welcome to Fort Kickass
I died shortly after this, the third stage is not one where you can just turtle up

>>43166617
Shame the walls don't block projectiles, those get spammed a bunch in stage 3.

>>43166733
yeah those projectiles are dangerous, especially because they aren't destroyed by projectiles/AOE like in VS

>>43166733
Probably wants to avoid a situation where the majority of players end up feeling like they need to make that collab.

>>43166733
Projectiles have killed my more time than I care to mention. They do a lot of damage, fill the screen, and you are forced to dodge them

>>43165849
they aren't but the way she went out feels more risky. coco is a tribute to the one that got most of us into vtuber crap

>>43166957
Yup, if it did it would be the #1 collab for easy playing in the hard stages.
Projectiles? Just say no.

>>43152409
What would a melee user take instead of Shiraken? Size maybe?

>>43167542
Risky to who? The game isn't cover affiliated and cover doesn't stop them from mentioning Russia, they're not gonna get banned from the game over her being playable.

What's a gud ass character for single weapon runs? Already did Mumei.

>>43168034
The healing one is nice. So is the Stun.

Is there a single character where Piki Piki Piman isn't an automatic Eliminate?

>>43168205
I would say Fauna but her special is more about survival than actually doing big damage on its own. Ame is a good one to single weapon.

>>43168205
Irys, though she's not as good as she once was due to the min delay being cranked up on her weapon.
>>43168249
Sora, Mio.

>>43168205
Mori is good since most of her skills are tied to her scythe and it lets you pump up her haste which is one of the biggest issues with her standard attack

>>43168249
Kiara.

>Mio's the only character I have at oshi tier aside from my actual oshi who I have at Gachikoi tier

I wonder when I got her there, maybe through gacha cause I don't think I played her that much.

>mumei delayed her stream of holocure because she was playing holocure
dork

Kay Yu pls indtroduce a Multiplayer patch

>>43168249
Haato so you can swap faster if you really need to swap at certain times.

>update but no changelog
why

>>43168034
Haste/Size/Solo is GODLY for Suisei. She just oneshots nearly everything even on Halu5/Marketing5

What the fuck was Mooms talking about Aqua? Did Broken Dreams Aqua get stealth nerfed?

>>43168249
When I do solo weapon runs with Aki I kinda want her special to be up when I need it so I usually take either PPM or Idol Costume.
Other than her its still nice on Sora

>>43169083
>Haste/Size/Solo
sounds like tags

>>43168205
Kiara, Suisei, Mori and Sora have all felt good to use

>>43169299
I haven't tried Mori but all 3 of those others are fucking great so I trust that if you listed her with them she must be awesome.

>>43168279
Fauna's kit has enough sustain and survivability that you generally focus more on getting damage boosting items.

>Got Mel to Gachikoi on a fresh save
>Just found updated plushie
I could have had 70% damage reduction this entire time.

>>43157696
The government wasn't involved, it was autistic incels. Some of them actually got in legal trouble for using VPNs to connect to Youtube.

>>43159849
Pretty much full.

Maybe it's just me but I HATE Aki's normal attack. It's slow, it's weak, and the delay drives me crazy.

>>43170032
Undewhelming evolve, slow ass RoF, not even good alpha. Its a really shit Light Beam. The only way to fix it is by giving her another weapon slot as a gimmick.

>>43170032
It isn't bad once leveled up, which is more than can be said for some weapons.
It is a bit annoying early on when it is small and slow due to not having control, but I believe that is purposeful so you can focus on moving and dodging for keeping enemies in your zone and keep belly dance going.

>>43169138
>Did Broken Dreams Aqua get stealth nerfed?
I don't think it was stealthy at all, it was patched in the update yesterday, making it about half as effective.
Using Mumei might be more effective because Friend can still double it.

>>43164500
I think Elite Cooking has the highest damage as long as you're not constantly sprinting away from the puddles. If you can't stay in one area it's Mikomet plus BL Fujoshi. Flattening Board, Bone Bros, and Light Beam are also pretty high, and the enemy density and amount of haste benefit some of these collabs over others (BL for example is bad on high haste builds).

So what's the play with Kusogaki, what are the moves you wanna use to make up for a "wasted slot"?

>>43171155
5 of these items: Facemask, Injection, Gorilla Paw, Energy Drink, Hope Soda, Breastplate, and Membership. The shackles are 3 levels to remove 10+ levels worth of drawbacks if you can commit early.

Did they change the Time Mode so exp doritos doesn't teleport to you when you kill enemies outside the arena?

should I update? I have 0.5 release

>>43171392
Might as well. There's an anon keeping an archive of older releases.

>>43151086
What was wrong with her spirit orbs before?

Not the best character but definitely the most fun run so far.

>>43168249
Been running solo weapon runs with Ayame and Piki seems to work well with her since her invulnerable requires eating multiple hits to trigger.

>>43171155
Injection Type Asacoco is a big damage spike you can take now.

Give me more stamp slots.
Or else.

>>43172149
IIRC it didn't get affected by any damage multiplier from items, only purely from your %ATK so it would be weak as shit since it won't scale.

Bros, what am I doing wrong with time attack? I'm doing the same strat as Mumei by rushing broken dreams and getting as many damage boosting items as I can but my best run is this.

Whoever said Ayame is bad at this is a retard.

>>43173828
>what am I doing wrong with time attack
You're using Mio that's what. She's probably one of the worst one in that mode due to all of her skills possibly not contributing to anything once you finished Broken Dreams.

>>43174093
It was probably an Ayame anti because she doesn't stream.

I just need to gachi 5 more girls and then I'll get the 100% achievement

>>43174093
>even her main attack going half again outside her bonus xp for kill zone
Fucking disgusting.

>>43174315
I don't really like how the fandoms got pretty much the same generic icon, could've just used their main weapon with added bling instead.

>>43173781
Oh that definitely explains why Ayame felt lacking when dealing with crowds.

>>43174093
Her awakened weapon got fixed last night.

>>43174093
2 of her abilities were glitches launch

>>43174548
>>43174586
They literally do not matter.

>>43174730
Her Awakened Spirit Orbs literally didn't scale with damage multipliers making them do absolutely garbage damage.

Version 0.5 - Gen 1 and 2
Version 0.6 - HoloID
Version 0.7 - Gen 3 and 4
Version 0.8 - Gen 5 and holoX
Version 0.9 - Holostars
Version 1.0 - Tempus

In retrospect, I probably should have taken the Stun Stamp, but at this point, it's pretty hard to outlast Yagoo.

>>43175372
There may be new generations of girls by the time it is version 0.9.

>>43175717
>new generations of girls
and boys.

>>43175889
Probably. But if there is JP7 and a new batch of ENgirls and ID4, those will get added before stars.

>>43175372
so this game dies when 0.9 comes out

>>43176348
That's in 2025 so there is still plenty of time.