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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
Reminder that cull is real, is well documented and only troons deny the data.
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/filename/1656421838689.jpg/What is his endgame?
>>43135236And she got 90k the first time she played it.Holocure doing 65k peak to 40k peak doesn't sound too unreasonable then
>>43135331
>>43135331Looks like genuine recline to me anon
>>43135405Seems like cope
In case you're wondering why some posters obsessed on cull again today
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>38,879: Toya (Nijisanji)>31,781: Calli (Hololive)>31,008: Subaru (Hololive)>25,266: Pekora (Hololive)>22,904: Kanata (Hololive)>21,814: Korone (Hololive)>20,241: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>20,213: Uiha (Nijisanji)>18,471: Shion (Hololive)>18,081: Hayato (Nijisanji)>17,957: Hal (Neo Porte)>15,119: Ui (Indie)>14,476: Watame (Hololive)>14,422: Botan (Hololive)>14,122: Subaru (Hololive)>13,386: Mumei (Hololive)>11,991: Fauna (Hololive)>10,750: Nerumero (Indie)>10,285: Nene (Hololive)
Friendly reminder that cull niggers are false-flagging chumbuds pretending to be nousagi so that they recruit allies into their baseless delusions.
>>43135451I love my boy Toya!
>>43135489>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 202314) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy>PER COMPANY10x: Hololive5x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora2x: Marine1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY33x: Hololive12x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER18x: Pekora3x: Marine2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa, Toya1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro
>holofags treating /#/ as a gay cultural battleground yet againSeriously, why are they like this? Who gives a shit what the thread thinks?
>>43135286You retards lose? LMAO
>>43135582>>43135521>>43135451nigger you know we can see ip counts right?
>>43135414This looks like genuine recline to you?
>>43135342promoting rocksuki obviously
my cute wife
>>43135489>>38,879: Toya (Nijisanji)>>31,781: Calli (Hololive)You can't even depend on EN to get a global gold
>>43135521Anon let gura rest. I didn't listening her yesterday in the collab including Ina and Ame. Gura is probably dying but now she knows how to dance even better. We will watch the results of their training on Saturday with Ina first.
>>43135447Sound like you're retarded.
>>43135615it's a megaman reskin with a single stage and not even a chargebuster that hasn't been updated since may, it's not wirth 28 threads
Why do you faggots keep conveniently "forgetting" that the 2020 cull affected people like Lamy and Watame just as badly if not worse than any EN member, yes that cull is real and still in place, no it doesn't somehow half EN's true numbers while leaving JP alone
Lolis are overrated. Hags are best.
Cull baiters taking Holobronies for a ride, again. How many threads in a row? 3?
>>43135331That's not the cull, that's CCVID, which lasted only for a few weeks. The actual cull happened December 4, 2020.>>43135451>obsessed on cull again todayIt's been the main obsession of this thread since its creation. It just doesn't get discussed as much anymore because it's taken for granted.
>>43135687because it's not faggotS, it's one faggot and he seems to have made it his life's mission to gaslight the thread into thinking the cull is some kind of numbers thread injoke
Where are the "middle of the month" charts? I want them.
>>431354894-12 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>43135845and the worst thing about it is that you can't just ignore him like the other shitposters, you have to give him yous or retards like >>43135687 and >>43135806 will come along and think he's actually being genuine and newfags will parrot his bullshit around
>>43135451Holokeks seething. Nijisanji Thriving!!!
>>43135913Just make a copypasta then
>>43135764Towako is peak.
>>43135970yeah because that totally works and people's eyes don't jsut glaze over them
>>43135656it's the best they have anon
>>43136034are nijifags really that hard up for fangames? I thought nijien was just as popular in NA as hololive and they have legions of fans? Where are they?
Kaela with 5k playing Minecraft
>>43135489>B-B-But my VOD viewsHoly cope it’s only 200k LMAO. Not even management cares for vods, if not En management would make every announcement on Gura’s channel KEK!!!
>>43135913>or retards like >43135687 and >43135806 (me) will come along and think he's actually being genuineAnon, I don't think he's being genuine, but the best thing to do in these cases is to just pretend it is and tell the truth, otherwise newfags will actually assume he's right.
>>43136073spending time on their doxxsite, here, or twitter.
>>43136073nijiniggers would rather spend their time seething here than work towards something productive, but what can you expect out of a fanbase power entirely by jealously and spite?
>it's just the 15th>nijien already lost the month
>>43136079Kinda low today. Maybe one block isn't that interesting to some.
Bae’s MV has beaten IRyS’s MV to 100k, though just barely
>>43136195Who cares we are all on break, meanwhile who has won the past two months in a row??? NijiEn. Cope and seeth holobrony
>>43135806>It just doesn't get discussed as much anymore because it's taken for granted.it doesn't get discussed much because anything worth saying has been said. half of the "discussion" about it in the last few thread were literally just people posting the same fucking shit that is in the archive from early 2022 if not 2021. at the end of the day without any new information there is nothing left to do besides take the numbers as their are because anything else is just reading tea leafs
>>43135451noumidgets...
>>43136195Well, winning isn't the most important thing. The most important thing is to completely crush the opponent.
>>43136258How many months in a row did holoEN win before that, Mysta?
>>43136084>Not even management cares for ccv, if not En management would make every announcement on Gura’s channel KEK!!!
WHERE'S THE LOLI LEWDS?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
If you have time to seethe here, it's better you complain to NijiEN management instead, sisters
>>Myth>Gura - Behind Members, no data.>Ame - No stream.>Ina [Pokemon 10+11]¥88,315 [$663.77]Memberships - 65Gifted Memberships - 57>Kiara (Holocure)¥197,594 [$1485.1]Memberships - 13Gifted Memberships - 0>Mori (Valentine Karaoke)¥517,503 [$3889.50]Memberships - 51Gifted Memberships - 31>>CouncilRyS>Kronii - No stream>IRyS (CARAOKE the sequel)¥329,322 [$2475.15]Memberships - 34Gifted Memberships - 40>Bae (Valentine Roleplay)¥141,131 [$1058.36]Memberships - 26Gifted Memberships - 125>Mumei (Valentine Karaoke)¥306, 932[$2304.22]Memberships - 40Gifted Memberships - 343>Fauna (Valentine Karaoke/Yandere ASMR)¥514,177[$3855.89]Memberships - 74Gifted Memberships - 213Currency conversion using google.>>Total ranking is:MoriFaunaIRySMumeiKiaraBaeIna>>If you were to count Membership/gifts Fauna takes the lead, and Mumei beats IRyS
NijiENs total box without the mandate of heaven is similar if not a little less than what remains of holoEN husk of a box
>deletedLooks like someone was having too much fun>>43136073they're women, and not the actually man kind
>>43136251>IRyStocratsHate Bae ship, “should have been me mentality”. >BratsLove IRyS ship. If it wasn’t for her, Bae would getting shipped with every homo available. The ship prevents them from getting cucked
>>43136277ah, that was Axel right?
PSSSST!>HEY NUMBERFAGS, DISQUALIFY TOYA TODAY AND GIVE ME GOLD AND I'LL LET YOU SEE MY PANTIES!WELLLL ANONSSS!?!?!? HOW DO YOU RESPOND?
>>43136258>we>still has 10+ streams a day
>>43136321Be the change.
>>43136084>missing punctuation marks>commas in place of periods>random all caps>not properly capitalizing abbreviationsWho even types like this? At least go be a subhuman on the catalog.
>>43136392Can we have a challenge where we try to find different phenomenons than sex to explain numbers? Might be interesting
>>43136431Give me your unfiltered face instead and it's a deal.
>>43136457>over analyzing a grammatically correct post spotted the ESL
>>43135363>first time she played itbetween first time and this time there were a dozen more anon.
>>43136456 i'm away from my desktop
>>43136457Everything in that sentence is right tho?
>EU timeslot is bad!>Watame literally has 14k watching her play a block game right now
>>43136537Lap-chan...
>>43136495>looking anywhere north of the center of massWHY ARE YOU GAY!
Where's tableanon
>>43136489Can’t, the best superbowl half time show was when Janet Jackson showed a titty. This years Super Bowl performance was fucking shit and it’s because Rihanna came preggo all covered up.
Why is Chinman stronger than Chinigami and her friends?
>>43136537here, just one because you asked so nicely
>>43136595Tables are only generated after the last stream of the day finishes
>>43136629
>>43136583Sorry but the filter makes the face look slightly blurry and photoshopped in.
>>43136616look at this faggot
>>43136656
So this thread is just 3rd world niggers flinging shit at each other in IESLB and masturbating to irrelevant numbers?
>>43136685
>>43136552Can confirm Watame is my oshi and I'm a EU fag.Reminds me of 2 years back when she was the only one streaming Minecraft, and at these hours too.
As a holokek I offer Gura up to the lolicon Toya
>>43136366>valentine roleplay losing to a holocure stream???
>>43136707
>>43136668You know "eyes are up here" is a meme, right?
next stream 40k viewers!
>>43136698I didn't choose to be born here...
>>43136732and I'm outHave fun you autists, I'mma fap and go to sleep
>>43136668still gay
>>43136366IRyS and Bae messed up shipping themselves up together for valentines instead of their audience. Ship fags are cancer and aren’t real hardcore fans like the unicorns can be
>>43136583I'm guessing she will be doing the Lamy cosplay and after the outfit debut. When is Lamy new outfit reveal anyway?
>>43136711sheep and flare craft in the evening is great always loved to just chill out in the evening with their streams
>>43136850ah yes, Mori, Unicorn Queen.
>>43136723The Holocure stream had a slew of HAPPY VALENTINE'S because it was essentially her Valentine's stream and they knew it. Bae is also pretty much nothing without her Koreans which have seemingly fucked off.
>>43136850I think they’re just less popular than others on this list tbhdesu
>>43136875But she literally bent the knee to them tho?? It’s valentines retard
>>43136887Isegye rises
>>43136766
>>43136904Don't say that or I'll call you a sister or whatever
>>4313684917 hours
>>43136944nijiseethe
>>43136431You're already showing it you dumb whore
>>43136849>I'm guessing she will be doing the Lamy cosplay and after the outfit debut.I doubt, she put the time making the cosplay outfits by hand.This Mori one was easy because it's a rfegular black silk negligee and some head and neck accessories which are easy to make.
>>43136740>>43136583I’d rather fuck Mori, polka and Ollie instead of this thing.
>>43137126yeah yeah you are gay no need to shout it.
>>43136954Gold?
EU time is worthless just look at kiara
>>43137126Faggot
>>43137126I see, so you're an architect! Nothing wrong with it, mate!
>>43136541>>43136501t. subhumans
>>43137153>>43137187>>43137189At least post Rizuna faggots, this alien looking thing is unappealing.
>>43137184Some small corpo should dominate of EU timeslot since HoloEN doesn't want it.
Any more hints of holoEN getting rid of old en management on their Jp trip?
>>43137184kiara is worthless
>>43137126Your taste is exquisite, might I suggest a Selen and something to spice things up, maybe a Fungus
>>43137270If you buy the rrat that management makes them miserable then something happened because all of them seem to be in great moods.
>>43137184Kiara forever 3.5k streamer in both timeslots
>>43137270What did I miss?
>>43137270>more hintsWhat hints were there previously?
>>43137254Even small corpo don't want EU, even though some of them are literally Italians and Portuguese they stream in NA timezone.
>>43136698yes, I also make fun of your oshi
>>43137126>polkaThis, but unironically.
so have nijien said anything about the missing livers?
>>43137270>>43137317Anon, Management is literally gaslighting the girls like shitty boyfriends do basic bitches to get them hooked.
>>43137270it looks to be a temporary thingthe broken telephone (fax) with 10 layers of middle management translation can't mess with their actual proposals while they are on japan
>>43137270If you play the offcollab backwards at .25 speed you can make out several messages to the audience.
>>43137253No, really, you need to get your test levels checked.Look at this and tell me you would pass instead of smash!
>>43137288I over reacted, it’s just that I dont get you guys fascination over this literally who roasty with an alien face. There are better and hotter cosplayers than her
>>43137396jesas
>>43137344Trafficked on the black market in China, no doubt.
>>43137344Pomu said she'll meet them in Japan
>3dpdsigh
>>43137396She sent Kiara pictures of her asshole.
>>43137396Literally looks like amouranth. I also find amouranth unappealing, you must be one of her Sea fans
Some time back ENs reported on all en managers being called to a physical meeting at Cover jp hq
>>43137489It was one of the JPs that said that she was surprised that there was a lot of foreign managers at the office like not even 2 weeks ago
>>43136850I do wonder what the fuck happened to IRyS in this case since it was just a re-tread of last year. Granted she had more people watching her CARAOKE last year but tourists shoudln't affect SCs that much should they?
>>43137489This must’ve been when Subaru met them too then. https://youtu.be/SOK_DJOyzdoDoesn’t seem like anything rrat worthy happened
EN is dead at this point, only a miracle could save them
>>43136911that's not the win you think it is, until kronii bents the knee there's work to be done.
>>43137415Give us samples anon, who is a cosplayer which you find drop dead gorgeous, don't tell me it's hime
>>43137579> but tourists shoudln't affect SCs it do, not everyone who donates are long time viewers
>>43137489Was this before or after torpedoing holoen multiple times?
>>43137584Must be a white person for Sabaru to assume they didn't speak JP.
>>43137586IRyS 3D will save EN just like her redesign did.
>>43137670Recent, see the shuba clip up here
>>43135451Why are ENfags so petty?
>>43137629There's a really hot Fubuki cosplayer.
>>43137586NijiEN to be exact.
>>43137695Doesn't need to be white for a Jap to figure out
>>43137629Jessica Nigri she has a nice face and body.
>>43137489I wonder if Yagoo personally sitting in on the EN meetings might have some long term ramifications
>>43137731does that fubuki have a humungous schnoz?
He's samefagging again
>>43137586They're so dead, haha, HoloEN is completely dead. No merch, no concerts, no 3d debuts, everyone's on break.I'm a time traveller from 2 months ago btw
>>43137176Probably Lamy gold. Chima may get a funnel from Lamy for her outfit. Hibari has a live Karaoke w/ a band at the same time as Lamy outfit. None of them have the same draw as the Holobox.
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>2/15 DAILY TALLY31,781: Mori (Hololive)13,386: Mumei (Hololive)11,991: Fauna (Hololive)9,718: Fauna (Hololive)8,750: Ina (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab>PER COMPANY15x: Hololive>PER STREAMER4x: Mori3x: Baelz2x: Amelia1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii, Fauna, IRyS, Gura>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)24p: Mori21p: Baelz12p: IRyS11p: Amelia, Mumei9p: Ina, Fauna7p: Kronii, Vox5p: Kiara, Gura4p: Vesper3p: Uki, Luca, Magni1p: Mysta
>>43137765>the CEO has to sit in on your lower level meetingsThat's absolutely terrifying. If that at work then I knew some shit was going down.
>>43137629Enako, easily.
>>43137761For fuck sake, you must be talking with the eyes of love because Jessica Nigri has an awful face and 95% category 6 plastic body which aged awfully even from her prime ten years ago.You're betraying your age there pops, it's not 2010 anymore, get with the times
>>43137733
>>43137865>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY28x: Hololive16x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori4x: Baelz3x: Mysta, Ina2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, IRyS1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Fauna, Gura>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)43p: Mumei35p: Ina29p: Amelia, Baelz, Mori28p: IRyS26p: Vox, Fauna23p: Mysta17p: Kronii14p: Luca13p: Selen12p: Kiara10p: Pomu8p: Ike, Millie7p: Regis5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Gura4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel
>>43137761>google herDios mío, what the fuck kind of drugs are you on?
>>43137878Enako is a good choicem top of the top, but I'm on the Taiwan train so I would say Ely trumps Enako
>>43137765It's obvious something has changed. We'll probably never know what exactly but you can tell something behind the scenes changed.
DO you think the influence of twitch and their top streamers is just too much for the current vtuber scene to flourish their own meta? and would it be possible to break from that?
>>43137870I don't really think that would be that terrifying if it were Yagoo though, he comes across as very vulnerable and approachable judging by what the girls has said
>>43137629Someone posted this the other day. Literally all of them except Lui who is abviously a dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qma4bFiX-F8&t=1135sIt even has the light filters off on the 2nd portion of the video so you can see how much it matters. This >>43137396literally already has the make up the, light filters, picture resolution turned down and the face apps applied and it still loooks like an alien.
>>43137797Let's check again after Holofes, shall we?
???
>>43137629broccoli >>43137471So if you join hololive you get to ask cosplayers for nude pics?
im disappointed in chumbuds
>>43137965>DO you think the influence of twitch and their top streamers is just too much for the current vtuber scene to flourish their own metaShould the audience assume you mean exclusively>ENVtubers minus HoloEN?Because neither the JP crowd nor HoloEN pays the slight attention to the Twitch meta and they couldn't possibly do anyway
>>43137344you mean missing kidneys?you can't live without a liver.
>>43137989Sure anon, 2 more weeks, trust the plan.
>>43137973Bro that's his PR face, they've also said he's terrifying when he has to be.
>>43137985Jesus, you can't possibly be comparing those third rate SEA cosplayers with about the same amount of makeup and even heavier filter (given that NaThaLang is a SFX specialist) with TW and JP cosplayers.
>>43137973Vulnerable and approachable to the talents doesn't mean he isn't scary to his peon middle-managers when they fuck up
>>43138002where the fuck are the teamates though
>>43137965twitch just did irreparable damage to streaming scene.unlike japan the west viewers were trained to say no to streaming games and just watch react content, big collabs or drama. which is ironic since twitch started as a gaming steeaming site.Is something cultural. The EN scene specially holoen will always have to swim upstream in this market.
>>43138039They also said that the only ones in the JP branch who hasn't seen him cry is holox
>>43137965HoloJP is alread doing it tho.They have the most viewed group of Females and its not even close. EN and ID's problem is them trying to break the wall garden to attrack the twitch crowd. Of course those fans would expect you to play the meta on twitch even if you arent able too.
>>43137973You fell for the public PR image, anon. The man runs a multi-million company and has to deal with all sorts of nonsense bullshit from all kinds of middle management and upwards, you don't survive those kinds of situations without having a steely will. Also, how he treats the girls is gonna be much different to if he's looking over every little thing in the EN meetings because he realized that something was fucking ROTTEN in the EN branch.
>>43137835>Chima may get a funnel from Lamy for her outfitanon, stop parroting everything you read here like a retard. Mr Koro has already scheduled a minecraft collab after lamys, so more join her. And pekora will as usual come in with something as well.
>>43137996this one?
>>43137973Dude, he's CEO. If your boss's boss needs to sit in on meetings with you it isn't a good sign for your boss.
>>43138093Doesn’t NicoNico have a lot of dumb drama as well?
>>43137996>So if you join hololive you get to ask cosplayers for nude pics?Absolutely not. You get them without asking, though.
>>43138065https://www.instagram.com/_hakkencoser_/?hl=enNo filter
>>43138002Pretty easy to explain, chumbuds rely on the algorithm to feed them her channel which is why her solo streams get higher views than her collabs that are not on her channel
>>43138117holojp has the advantage of the steaming scene being built different. straming games is expected and ecnouraged unlike the west, unless is a really really really popular game.
>>43137865>0 niji and Fauna gold today?
>>43138133The reason he’s sitting in on them is to learn English though. Chances are he’s just sitting there smiling and not understanding a thing
>>43137765also tempiss doomposting and holoen happy since early january (their trips started happening late december)
>>43136552Low zoomer appeal, but Watame has a power over those crushed by work life or personal trauma.
>>43138002The average chumbud is too dumb to figure out the onscreen links to the next scenarios.
>>43138065im a burger i have no clue what your saying in term of SEA cosplayers. All im saying is that thot with an alien face already has all that shit applied and she still looks bogged up as fuck. anyways 2D > 3dpd whores
>>43137901What the hell is happening with Nijisanji?
>>43138132God no. https://twitter.com/broccoli_vcos
>>43137973The man runs a virtual cabaret club that feeds off lonely mentally ill men who seek comfort no matter how ephermeral from his house of whores he is a dangerous individual.
>>43138137Niconico never reached the numbers of youtube, they were and will awlasy be niche.
>>43137879>>43137938She legit the most popular cosplay in the west. I even say she up their with Enako in terms of popularity.
>>43138093I mean, gaming streamers still exist, its just the audience for them fragmented HARD, and streamers specialize as a result. You have>Speedrunners>Shooty gamers>LOL>Gimmick Challenge runners, some overlap with speedrunnersYou get the idea. Variety gamers that get BIG are more of the exception nowadays.
>>43138002It's tough having to choose between Gura, Mumei and Fauna.Takos and Kronies had it easy.
>>43138093I think that the JP audience is also more conditioned to treat their streamers like traditional TV, which would also explain why they sometimes have chat rates that seem low considering the CCV.
>>43138233>She legit the most popular cosplay in the westAnd Asmon and xQc are the biggest streamers, your point?
>>43138221>butterface
>>43138181Yes. Unless Ame pulls some guerilla kino later.
>>43135331Why was hololive the only one affected by ccvid? Seems targeted.
>>43138148Nah, I'm kneel to Hakken and am even a little bit gay for her (no homo) but the amount of face whitening and powder she uses to get that pale look plus the heavy airbrush in every other picture is clearly not "no filter", it is just the "analogic" filter instead of the digital one.There is no cosplay without heavy filter, 3DPD is not a meme, there is no way to replicate the perfect animesque look natty.>>43138209>anyways 2D > 3dpd whoresSee above, you got that one right. It's like that meme of "look at what they do to imitate a fraction of our power"Now admit you would smash>ADMIT IT!
>>43136197Think more people are inclined to come if there is a chance for her to interact with another holo
>>43138184You've bought and believed a PR image, anon, you don't start a successful international entertainment company by being a cute idiot who sits in meetings to listen to babble with a slack-jawed grin on your faceYagoo is busy as fuck, he's not sitting in on 2 hour long meetings to get English immersion practice
>>43137996If you are Axel yes.
>>43137964And all of Hololive EN actually seems happy at the moment.
>>43138241the speedrun streaming scene is kinda dead nowdaysand shoot and lol games are mostly about being popular copetitive games.you are lucky to see anything that isnt csgo,vlorant,apex get numbers.
>>43138093I think the main difference is that JP game streaming grew to its current size at the same time as Niji and Holo. Since corpos require some manner of good PR, drama is less prevalent, and copyright needs to be respected. Japanese culture fucking loves react content, just tune into any variety show on TV.
>>43137865Reminder that even in the cursed month of December 2022 where>Ina and Gura were on health leave>IRyS got COVID>Kiara's throat got fucked up>Kronii's cat died>Amelia was burnt out>Fauna and Mumei took breaksHoloEN still put up a better fight than Nijisanji "0x15" EN
>>43137870But Yagoo tweeted that he joined the meeting to improve his English. Is it just a cover? Is he actually having a 3D chess?
>>43137973some JP have commented maybe years ago on seeing him reprimending some staff. He does so in a very polite way, but the message is clear and that staff was looking down for fucking up afterwards.
>>43138233>She legit the most popular cosplay in the west.She was, long ago. She moved from pro cosplaying (mostly because of age and the pandemics killing the con circuit) to become a generic influencer that happens to cosplay once in a while.The cosplay scene in the west pretty much died because of forced diversity too, and the north american cultural orthodoxy of>worse is better>it's beautiful to be uglyJust check the difference between the "CMV" of American conventions and asian conventions, in the later only the best cosplay gets featured, in the former, unironic fat chicks and ugly chicks that happens to have the right amount of melanin.Nigri did well in bowing out when she was ahead, she's nothing but a name now that left at her height
>>43138148migo raped her and sent suisei the pics
>>43138137Yes. There is a reason why the old guard from NND respect their new jobs.
>>43138399NijiEN were also spamming buff streams that month and in January.
>>43137870you people need to rememebr that while cover is really succesful is pretty small. they have only one hq. seeing the ceo walking or visiting other offcies is expected. i doubt they are all closed in one office all day.
>>43137991why do you keep posting this. scarle apparently has that on her schedule, im guessing fans are posting their tinder profiles and she's gonna review them on stream.
>>43138341this 3d whore you have fallen in love with has no power over me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBYXi8OYE8gi would crawl on the floor for this Noel tho.
>>43138408He tweeted about visiting LA to go to that crunchyroll conDo you think that's the only reason he was in LA, anon? Do you think CEOs tweet the real reasons they do stuff to their consumer base?
>>43138346Who even said that Yagoo was in the EN managers meeting?
>>43138346I don’t think he has any reason to lie about wanting to improve his English desu. CEOs lying is a good way to lose respect, and I don’t think he’s that kind of a person anyways
>>43138530Yagoo did
>>43138530https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1621347682643222529
>>43138524She already has a bf
>>43138524>i would crawl on the floor for this Noel tho.Come on, once you see the original thing no cosplayer can EVER EVER EVER EVER match that perfection.I got blasted out of my seat when I first saw NotNoel, mostly because anons post her in other boards in this site and I had no idea but DAMN, she hot!When someone made the connection my mind got blown and the only think I could think was>fuck, they n-nerfed Noel model?
>>43138399Wasn't that the month with saturday night mental health breaks and monday evening return karaoke handcam asmr streams?
>>43138213Perceived lack of professionalism and too much internal drama. Tourists simply move on when they think they smell shit.
>>43138530this guy said it
>>43138582
>>43138545Let me rephrase: He's not sitting in on 2 hour long meetings JUST to get English immersion practice
>>43138483She's truly a vile and erotic girl. She needs correction.
Yagoos meetings aside, you don't have to be some insane rrat peddler to say that something changed in EN management this year. Maybe the completely insane push for 8 homos bit them in the ass.
>>43138469>The cosplay scene in the west pretty much died because of forced diversity too, and the north american cultural orthodoxy ofYou sound like a retard, anon.
>>43137965>>43138093Twitch itself isn't as monolithic as you posit, there's obviously some viewership crossover but there are multiple distinct communities within Twitch that all behave differently and don't adhere to a singular format. And people who stream on Twitch don't exclusively exist on Twitch. They have youtube channels and some of them use Twitter, and some communities operate actual honest to god plain old regular websites instead of just having a subreddit. The facecam drama clique doesn't dictate everything that goes on in Twitch.
>>43138526That is old news. I am referring to the tweet about his meeting this year.I don't know why he visited US last year so I cannot comment on that.
>>43138650This fucking retard.
>>43138675not shit, the hate for tempiss spread back into uproar
>>43138675Holostars ID soon brotha, they saw the success tempus was on EN sided.
>implying I will ever fap to Chinese nice try but those tits won't seduce me
>>43138599well the point in the conversation wasnt if i would date her, it if i would smash. Which i would.
>>43138691>Twitch itself isn't as monolithic as you positIt unironically isa report got leaked months ago that the top 35 people of twitch controlled 90% of the twitch audience which made the situation in twitch very grim since everyone was expecting a higher number like top 100
>>43138650At least he got a better reaction that time
>>43138650This idiot... Both shoto and zotto are either retard or huge fuckng leech
>>43138599yes, me
HEY WATAMATES!>blink if you are being held hostage by use of supernatural means
>>43138650>Good job yagoo! I'm proud of you>Also can you please let Mumei know to check my DMs
>>43138399>Amelia was burnt out Isn't she perpetually in that state?
>>43138675Didn’t the homos become much more insistent on pushing memberships and merch after Yagoo tweeted that?
>>43138691>The facecam drama clique doesn't dictate everything that goes on in Twitch.im sure that is not the case, everytime any of these guys do something everyone else suffers.like the top dogs of twitch have like 50% of the veiwers of the whole ass platfrom which is something that doesnt happen on youtube.
>>43138675That period of a few weeks or so where you could hardly find anything about the girls on their twitter was just weird as hell. They still shill them a bit there but they're posting the girls stuff now at least. Still have them muted and don't follow them though. They haven't even advertised Gura's figure once.
>>43138293>And Asmon and xQc are the biggest streamerslol they are actually mid to high midbiggest would be speed, that spanish guy and beast
>>43138816
>>43138494They had 3D debuts, Luxiem anniversary and new Wave debut and still barely won gold in December and January.
>>43138684He's overselling it, but NA cosplay scene definitely isn't what it used to be for 'Good looking' cosplay, and unfortunately woke nonsense does have a part to play in that.
>>43138684>You sound like a retard, anon.Maybe but it doesn't change what happened and how it affected the scene
>>43138675I'd agree with this. I think it'll take more time to show, but it seems plausible that some sort of internal decision was made and the beggar faction has had a major setback.1. several Stars were whining about changes in the past few weeks, independent of one another2. The EN girls are back, motivated, and getting stuff again3. As noted by this thread, the holopro twitter intern toned it down several notches on the ridiculous favoritism4. The subreddit stopped pinning everything Stars related to the detriment of the girl's stuff and t-chan has basically gone dormant 5. Some of the classic stars-collabers are skipping things like the mixed tournament, and that one event ditched the male co-hostAll circumstantial, of course
>>43138816It is of my own will why I'm in the jail sir.
>>43138872First NijiEN graduation/firing as well.
>>43138865>they are just top 5 instead of top3>midis this the actual state of twitch?
>>43138650I'm gonna be a bit sad when he graduates after the contract runs out. His tweets are like a dumb dog constantly doing the same stupid thing.
>>43138816Everything is fine, anon. Come watch for a bit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgZcrx0kLXw
>>43138928No way I'm clicking that hexed link!
>>43138757Ah i remember thatThe kronii vesper drama which reignited some of the hate in the jp stars as well which resulted in miyabi getting slightly harassed again
>>43138916It's some real numberrot speaking. Just because you aren't "the Top of the Top" doesn't mean you aren't "amongst the top", especially when the only ones who beat on you on the regular areMr. Beast, Susan's Golden BoyThe Spaniards, who get a huge amount of viewership from piss poor spanish kids who use them as free entertainment and basically provide near-zero revenue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfeAxgPBiEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfeAxgPBiE
>>43138816i am staying at my volition, no coercion what so ever, this is a deliberate choice i have made of my own
>>43138863The preparations for the holoENConnect concert or whatever it is have probably been there for a very long time already. Same deal with Valentines VN. Just because they announced stuff now, after months of planning and preparation, doesn’t mean that the managers were changed.
>>43138698Even if we take the tweet at face value, no management team wants the CEO sitting in on their meetings. They'll be under a lot of pressure even if he had zero intent to do so.
>>43138922>I'm gonna be a bit sad when he graduates after the contract runs outfrom the looks of it he's probably gonna opt in during the first year of his contract especially with how he teased his return of his previous job
>>43138786>>43138862The fuck? Are vidya streamers/viewers fleeing Twitch?
>>43138675I have to imagine they would have seen some of the blowback to Tempus2
>>43139005I hope its a 5 hour stream
>>43138886>5. Some of the classic stars-collabers are skipping things like the mixed tournamentNot really. Mori and Bae are still doing it.If you meant on the JP side, well it's not like Fubuki collabs with the Stars *that* often.
>>43138916>>43138998>top 5 not really asmon and xqc have shit numbers if you actually compare them to bigger streamers in all categorymost stable big audiences are the pastor streamers
>>43138881>>43138882It'll readjust given some time. Nobody was looking at the covid period and thinking it was a great time to get into it professionally.
>>43138788Based hoomans.
>>43138886>and that one event ditched the male co-hostGenuinely drawing a blank on what this is. Maybe I've been tuned out lately but all I remember prior to this Apex thing was the Pokemon tournament, which was never gonna happen to begin with because most of EN doesn't give a fuck about Pokemon and the ones that do only care about shiny hunting or breeding.
>>43138956Missing out, but suit yourself anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_pMvNHytCM
>>43138786Ah yes, the great Twitch conglomerate. Even if you're a smaller streamer, your viewers probably watch at least ONE of the top 35 as well, so....>>43139053It's less that and more that Twitch viewers are incestuous fuckwits that have all congregated around the top 35 streamers. Not to mention the spanish blokes, who no doubt account for a big chunk of that, you have viewers that jump between 1-2 streams of the biggest dudes and also some of the smaller ones, but you still count as that 90%.
>>43139053no, is just really REALLY top heavy
>>43138691It's not as monolithic but those people that AREN'T the ones getting numbers too.Sure there's an entire speedrunning scene that keeps to themselves and doesn't get involved in big drama, and some of their biggest streamers have like 3k averages.
>>43139157soon...
>>43139053>The fuck? Are vidya streamers/viewers fleeing Twitch?no, twitch has always been top heavy anonthe only surprise was how top heavy they were which is why they changed the whole twitch partnership thingy since they had to choose between amouranth and a couple of the top 35
>>43139145Think he is talking about the NND pokemon tournament earlier today(Technically yesterday in JP).
>>43138949So flat. Uooh.
>>43138675At some point someone who felt the need to change le evil idol culture got hired by cover as en manager. That person managed to convince others that idol culture is le bad and they should fight it. The consequent ghosting of en girls combined with passive aggresiveness and butchered lives and merch releases is a result of that. Whoever got hired made it their personal goal to postpone 3d reveals as much as possible as well until the hype is gone.
>>43139180TwitchBox is strong
>>43136850Irys mistake was not making it a threesome for valentines. No one wants to be NTR whether it's by a guy or a girl.
i wonder if Cover has a proper system for receiving complaints or something which are then consolidated to be read by Yagoo.Maybe some well-written fan complaints against Tempus reached him through those channels.
>>43139103I am not talking professionally, that is caused by another problem: the would be cosplay pros sadly got a better gig doing onlyfans type of content and (also due to the cultural changes in the west) lost the secondary gig that cosplay chicks had back then which was being>booth babes>car show modelsBut in the amateur scene the "ugly is beautiful" crowd won and mediocre cosplay gets praised because the chick is fat or black or, worse, not even a chick while genuinely attractive girls get pushed aside for not having the correct "qualities" to deserve praise
>>43138318The most popular rrat is that it was targeted. Youtube and twitter are 80% single, bitter womena and trannies. Those hate cute anime girls the most.
>>43139092I meant gaming, anon. I'm ignoring the preachers and shit 'cause that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish. Though I guess what Mr. Beast does isn't gaming either, so......>>43139103That's fair enough, I just am sick of this garbage that's infested all of my hobbies.
>>43139249>dear Yagoo>who the fuck was the retard thinking they should debut boys instead of girls>it better not have been you, coin-slot-for eyes yellow retard>Best Regards>Anon
>>43139249Didn't one of the talents say that they only read complaints form on the website.
>>43139249I sent an essay when Tempus2 debuted, and tried my hardest not to come off as an unhinged schizophrenic, maybe it was me!
>>43138886Feels like Stars/their management were told to stop relying on the girls for their success so much or something.>>43139083Those two in particular would feel bad for letting Ollie down for not joining the mixed tourney.
>>43137865Wait holoen already won?
>>43139157fuck work, i'm slipping in this stream just to see wamy
hey thread, what happened in the offcollab on mori's channel that everyone ws sperging out over it?
>>43139145It was the NND tournament. They traditionally had this one guy be a host but he got axed for a girl this year
>>43138318Not even Hololive in general, but predominantly HoloJP. I remember Flare became a 3view for some time kek.
>>43139376Underperformed but at least disclosed the 3D showcase
>>43139315>I meant gaming, anon.actual gaming streams hasnt been popular nor at the top for a while anonthose "gaming" streamers arent actual gaming streams
>>43139330anon you wrote a fucking essay
>>43139027I'm not saying anyone was changed and obviously all this stuff has been in the works for months. Hell, something like Connect can take a year in "real life" concerts. But maybe the girls have been heard more lately.
>>431393763D debuts were announced, and the mic quality was bad for Gura, Ame, and Ina, who are the three most popular talents on this board, so people freaked out.that's mostly it
>>43138949Is Nowa really a sub 2k streamer now? Did his yabs really hurt him that much? Damn…
>>43139376Bad sound quality and Gura, Ina + Ame are just naturally quite in these collabs. Gura + Ina were also working on no sleep.
>>43139323That's too /here/ to be taken seriously.
>>43139376It did as about as well as I expected. Probably would've been better had the collab not devolved into a Takamori stream since you could barely hear the other 3. Mori at least got the message and has picked up the setup that should help alleviate that.
>>43139417Hey look, I did say I tried my hardest, not that I necessarily succeeded.
>>43139324IRyS said that
>>43139249How quickly we forget IRyS throwing management to the wovles by telling everyone to email them direct feedback.>>43139323You joke, but I do think it's related. I doubt they care about A. Nonymous, Faggot at Large penning them a latter calling them gay for debuting more men, but I think the preemptive leddit locking and the shitshow that followed made cover look west and ask what the fuck was going on.
>>43139429Tempus 2 unironically came too soon. They were always weak under overlap and now overlaps are super common.
>>43139429Is it chatting or game? If it's a game than it's expected.
>>43139367Yeah. Everything from now on is the victory lap and to see if they can go 28-0.
>>43139429nah thats just the effect of being a retard who relies on the "euro audience" when everyone with a brain already know europe is a dead market for vtubing
>>43139410Fine, fine, that's true enough, they're like, a quarter gaming, and the rest is react content and dramashit. Which is really fucking sad.
>>43139474>>43139470She was getting tired of her music being released without MVs and pretty much just told her fanbase how they could complain to management about it.
>>43139488Well today seems to be a fucking dead day so they just have Fauna Minecraft to beat.
>>43139429The guy doesn’t interact with Tempus anymore, he’s a loner
>>43139484reacting to birthday art part2
>>43139249It might not be that but something like "After announcing a new debut generation we locked one our of social media platforms for nearly 23 hours" does feel like the type of thing that might find it's way up the grapevine and be worth looking into
>>43139528Part 2? That is a debuff in itself.
>>43139376Gura and Ame were more interested in playing with pussies and feet and talking to each other instead of the stream and Mori and Kiara caught flak as a result
>>43139527Hopefully Tempus 3 will fix that. Altair and Vesper can have proxy wars by controlling tempoop and tempuke
>>43138949Wait shouldn't fan submissions get more?
>>43139275I think the ability to go on a Chinese website and directly buy a passable cosplay or large parts of a cosplay kind of killed the scene too.
>>43139490shut up omegay
>>43139606Fan submissions aren't really that big of a buff if the premise itself isn't interesting.
>>43139324Yeah IRyS told her fans to send stuff thru complaints forms because that’s the only way they would listen. Then we got tempoop but now it seems it might be healing.
>>43139376In addition to the audio chumbuds were a little riled up in general cause Gura was frustrated and couldn't do a bigger valentines date because of it
>Myth's Valentine's Day stream prestream>Mori/Kiara: guys get near the mic so they can hear you.>Gura: they can hear me good enough from over here>Mori: ...Stream>chat: we cant hear them>Mori: (I tried, guys) [cant actually say this in front of gura cause it would kill the mood]Gura has no problem killing the mood>"She took the sound I was going to do">"This is cringe">"I wish I was sleeping"Man, Myth members(especially Mori and Gura) really don't like each other.Thinking about it, IRyS had a similar thing with Council but they still got along eventually and they were irritating IRyS because they wanted to spend the new years with her. CouncilRyS is without a doubt much closer than Myth is.
>it's 4:03AM in japan>watame at 13kwtf is this black magic
Have you gone to this point yet anon?!
>>43139690are you just memory holing the past two weeks of interactions they've discussed?
>>43139376Audio was fucking dogshit so it was a glorified Takamori collab with some background noise.
>>43139376ruined but kiara yelling all the time + Gura not wanting to be there
I feel bad pomu has to carry the whole branch on her back
https://youtu.be/cnhS--RGwvEHere's your 3D model debut
>>43139275People will pay a lot of money to see some girl do fetish content or get fucked in cosplay of their favorite characters.
>>43139745did you watch the collab?
What sent you guys into a spiral of bloomposting? Yes it's likely that Tempus2 crashing and burning made management a bit more weary but there are no signs of them no longer shilling homos, let alone signs of Yagoo the chief homo defender slapping them down for it.>unaccptaburu...your rowest staru...is upper tier staru jaypeeYou see him thinking like that?And HoloproEN twitter is still shilling homos to hell and back, hell they went out of their way to shill Ollie's tournament despite her being from a different branch and them usually only RTing those collabs on the day they happen.And they forgot to shill gura's fucking new fig
Is tempus luxiem tier yet?
>>43139772In hindsight, thank god they had over a year between this and the showcase to fix those models.
>>43139690>Gura is being bitchy like alwaysWho would have seen this coming?She keeps ghosting her fans. And her fans still worship her as a goddesses. Not that cuckbeats are any better. The only good Myth fandoms rn are Takos and KFP>>43139663
>>43139745Mori and Gura haven’t really talked about each other, they briefly mentioned going to an onsen before Kiara returned but that was about it iirc
>>43139690
>>43139770Is it even considered carrying if she couldn't hit 3k?
>>43139787Don't get me wrong, I have 0 faith, I just like that they seem to have at least dialed it back a little. For now.
>>43139802They buffed Kiara’s ass twice, she still hasn’t shown her new buff yet.
>>43139745But Mori has been gone tho? Mori came back and ruined her Valentine’s Day thing she had planned out to announce it.Let’s not forget that Mori herself already did her official 3D showcase before. It’s not like this is a special even for Mori. Also Gura for a Thursday while mori got a weekend
>>43139797Luxiem is Tempus tier now.
>>43139853I figure it counts when it's just the last 2 flop branches left
>>43139770Don't worry Aia got her first unarchived Karaoke today! NijiEN is gonna be saved!
Stop it before you even start with your Myth personal relationships schizo fan fictions.
https://youtu.be/Ykb3zOhkosgHas this been posted already? This clip is unironically making me mad
>>43139912I feel like it's someone who got run out of global and came here instead since we got no moderation.
>>43139690>>Mori/Kiara: guys get near the mic so they can hear youThis totally happened btw
>>43139715My god. 2 JCS videos in about a month and one on this subject? It's like they are making this shit for me in particular.
>>43139949You posting that here is making me mad
>>43139959it 100% is because global has been timelooping this same "gura is a bitch" angle since last night
>>43139949>watching forsenFound your mistake.
>>43139458>Mori at least got the message and has picked up the setup that should help alleviate that.??????....!!??Mori taking feedback and using it constructively?? What sort of insane alternate timeline have I ended up in??
>>43139998>/takamorig/ turning on GuraTook them long enough.
>>43139912>>43139912This. Gura explained on her stream that she was annoyed and frustrated management scheduled the announcement when they did. Not everything has to be some deep personal issue.
>>43140033More like being forced to fix it after all those sc shitting on her and kiara
>>43140049>calling global morignow this is a first
Gura ain't no humble country girl no more. She came back for a half assed valentines payout and left her fans blue balled
>>43140011DON'T THROW SUCH VILE ACCUSATIONS AT ME YOUTUBE RECOMMENDED THIS SHIT HE ACTUALLY HAS THE FUCKING AUDACITY TO CALL PEKORA ANNOYING WHAT A FUCKING MAGGOT
>>43140033NTA but she sounded sarcastic
>>43139030It's almost as if he made the point to tweet about his presence in meetings to put pressure on management to shape up. Let's see how that works out in the longer term.
>>43139998It's weird cause everyone (chumbuds) should know Gura was running on 2 hrs of sleep and no sleep in the near future. It was obvious why she was so checked out.
I only care about Fauna and Mumei from EN
>>43140053Why was she annoyed?
Go back to /hlgg/ with this low tier SISTERS THEY HATE EACH OTHER drama.We discuss actual drama here.God I just realized how fucking lucky HoloEN is to have shit like this be their equivalent of drama, thought it also makes it annoying when 2 years later people on /vt/ still bring shit up like "uh remember that one offcollab where her tone was weird".
jwu, chinman beat the might myth off collab? how did he get more than 50k?
>>43139690>>43139809Does anyone remember this stream>https://www.youtube.com/live/16u2G57o6GE?feature=shareOhh, the good old days. At that time I unironically though that Myth were the best Hololive group because of their friendship. Gura and Mori don't give a shit about anyone but themselves now. Mori is quick to shill anything and everything on her channel and the stuff she is going to do but won't do the same for others. Gura is just there I guess
>>43137865Can kiara have a gold too
>>43139877My rrat is that they dialed it back to not annoy people before 4th Fes, let's see what happens after the event.
>>43140123Biggest EN drama is the Mori lean thing, which wouldn't even be top 10 in Niji EN dramas. Even Tempus managed to have bigger drama with Vesper.
>>43140118She had to move her valentine's stream to 7 am JST and cut it down to 1 hour. She was running on 2 hours of sleep according to her.
>>43140118She had a big multi hour valentines date planned and was upset she couldn't do it. She wasn't blaming it on Mori or anything just a general "ugh why'd they have to plan the announcement for today of all days"
>>43140150Almost impossible for her not to take it with her 3D debut. It'd take a Luxiem graduation to steal it.
Are these copy pastes from /hlgg/ or the catalog like that retard who does reddit copy pastes?
>>43139458The fact that Mori tweets at this point of her Hololive career that maybe she should check JP senpais setups, doesn't isnpire confidence. And I'm not even shitting on Mori in special, they are all still somehow technically mess and amazed of JP girls setups.
>>43139636Yeah before the recent developments in the "culture" only the chicks with a STUNNING BODY would fit such cosplays, even if store bought.Nowadays it's cheap cosplay AND with ugly models AND highlighted by the convention organizers to the detriment of the actually good looking chicks or well made cosplay outfits>>43139774True but those chicks won't be hitting the conventions
>>43139879Wait WTF!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrcZEjdrkRgMori literally already had her fucking showcase and she already got 3d live concerts already. This shit isnt important to mori wtf is it on her channel and why does she get a sunday??
>>43138890>>43138928>>43139008
>>43140239>>43139879neither mori nor management consider that a showcase , still no scythe.
>>43140239ALSO IT WAS IN JP TIME
>>43140090I think your hatred for Mori is affecting how you read this a bit. She is just given an update on what she did to alleviate the problem people brought up.
>>43139715>Dad's Money>Dad is Moneyhehand no. i am spending my own money
>>43140197Ahh I remember that night, it was fucking hilarious
>>43140132You have been sleeping for 16 hours? you should seek some help.
>>43140291That was a good thing. I wonder how Mori (and the rest of the girls) failed to ask this one basic question>hey JP girls, how do you pull collabs with multiple people in the same room and it sounds decent>no, not you Kanata, the one you organized flopped by your own admission
*FINAL FEBAERARY TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>2/15 DAILY TALLY4,502: Baelz (Hololive)>STREAMS FOR FEBAERARY 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club - Day 022) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko - Day 013) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Lengends (w/ Subaru) - Day 054) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,930 - Unarchived Karaoke - Day 095) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast - Day 066) Baelz (Hololive) - 8,728 - Valentine's Roleplay - Day 147) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,109 - Offcollab (w/ IRyS) - Day 088) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,636 - Holocure - Day 119) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,341 - Holocure - Day 1310) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,937 - Minecraft (w/ Sora) - Day 0311) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,502 - Zatsudan - Day 1512) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,370 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 0413) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,332 - Zatsudan - Day 0514) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,303 - Learning Harry Potter Spells - Day 0715) Baelz (Hololive) - 3,691 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 10>ABOVE 10K3>BETWEEN 5K AND 10K6>BELOW 5K6>CRIPPLE GOLDS FOR FEBAERARY 202301 -- 02 -- 05 -- 06TOTAL: 4>BAE'S CURRENT MEDIAN FOR THE MONTH5,489
>>43140227I laughed when they said "We know this, we have been doing this for 2 years"
Seriously though, where in the fuck is EN3?
Ok guys, CouncilRyS or Myth?Which full group collab would you all rather watch
>>43140357I think Kiara has been taking notes since the last time she was in JP, not like it would help her at all
>>43140357They could have just asked the ORK girls, they got the lav mics fauna bought to work pretty well.
>>43140374it keeps getting lower
>>43140227to be fair it's not like Off collabs with more than two people have been common.
>>43140425I'm convinced that no one in Myth (outside of maybe Gura) really likes to talk to Fauna about things for some reason.
>>43140291>Mori apologised for the audio scuff and said she'd ask for setup advice>and actually went and did itI got nothing bad to say about her today.
>>43140085Mmm love me some fried shrimp balls
>>43140412In bootcamp with JP7. Nodoka is whipping them into shape.
>>43140412Probably going to be announced at holofes otherwise they haven't started to look for them until the most recent call for audition
>>43140465I'll give her credit for at least trying these days
>>43140374I honestly think today's Duolingo is gonna be a new low for her. Fauna is most likely gonna overlap the entire thing with Minecraft, and lets be honest who wanna watch a proficient English speaker do English Duolingo?
>>43140412all lost in the plane crash
What the fuck is this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k6IQQdgfnE
>>43140509They basically booked every weekend until right before Holofes with Myth showcase
>>43140412Being revealed to you in a dream, probably. Can't people just let go? It's not coming.
>>43140412EN3 is never happening schizo
>>43140450Come on, Choco has a whole series with Lui and the setup is good enough for Choco to be heard clearly all the way from the kitchen
>>43140417Each group has their buffs and debuffs>Buffs: Gura and Ina. Mumei and Fauna>Neutral: Amelia. IRyS>Debuffs: Mori and Kiara. Kronii and Bae
>>43140412Sorry, I'm not done with them yet
oh btw laplus is alive, she gave matsuri chocolate
>>43140417>CouncilRySwith Gura as guest
>>43140291Why did you only post the latter tweet?
>>43140549For myth, anon.
The truth is talent managers should be the ones setting up proper stream environment, fussing about setting up equipment etcThe only pushback I ever got on this was>w-well my favorite holo learned to do it on her ownAnd what I'm saying is that she shouldn't have had to. W*men are retarded and holos are 90% charisma, get a penis weilder from management in there to handle actual setups. Cover needs like 20 Shinoves.
>>43140564Choco-ten as well.
>>43140633we both know that isn't practical, especially for a morning stream like that was.
>>43140589>The girls all sat where they wanted toWell next time maybe Kiara should not want to be in the same room. We can hear her wherever she is in the apartment complex anyway.
>>43137554wasn't that Subaru? But if 3D debuts were already in the works it wouldn't be too surprising shit takes a lot of planning.
>>43140633Anon their managers are glorified personal assistants, they don't know shit about tech.
>>43140564>>43140647she gave haachama one as well, but they aren't actual chocolates, just some line stamps.do your reps.
>>43140633They have had the exact same issues since debut, at some point even a group of retarded women should learn to do it.
>>43140633You're suggesting a guy get there at like 5 AM, get it all set up, and come back every single time they decide to move shit around.
>>43140633Anon, the talents take half the cut. If they want people to do their shit then they better pay up.
>>43140589Seems reasonable to me desu
>>43140417CouncilRyS without a doubt. Look at the hostbar stream. Even fucking Ame vibed better with them.>>43140552I don't think it's about the numbers, IRyS gets avg numbers and she is a fan favourite here. Also Kronii is also in neutral category
>>43140412only after you eat your tempiss veggies
>>43140633they've been at it for years and make six figures, they've literally no excuse for shitty sound. That goes for JP too.
>>43140790No. I suggest the managers come up with a bible document of "shit we know our holos have had to deal with before" and consult with it to help their holos.Like, the manager should have been asking "what's your microphone setup, do you want to do this at the studio" etc etc.
>>43140459Being competent and setting standards for yourself does tend to do that to people.
>>43139527he's literally talking about Magni, Shinri, and Hakka no no mention of leader yet
>>43140417Anyone who takes myth as this point is retarded. The only good Myth is belive it or not Ame. She actually gives as shit about Hololive En
>>43140920The only good Myth is Kiara and that's what scares /vt/
>>43140633>The truth is talent managers should be the ones setting up proper stream environment, fussing about setting up equipment etcThat was NEVER the modus operandis for Cover and would be dumb to hire girls that can't learn that after their SECOND ANNIVERSARY at the job.The whole thing that makes it even possible for a vtuber company to exist is that they don't have to have a person in loco to set the stream up.If that was necessary first of all it wouldn't be even viable to have foreign branches, they would be better off to stay in one city so they can share the staff.Second: nobody better than the girls themselves are capable to know what kind of setup suits them better.They are better gamers than management, they are better singers than management, they are better instrument players than management, they are better live streamers than management.Having management set everything up for the girls would just be a retrogress to the days of "scripted uploaded let's play", it might as well to have the girls go to the studio and stream from there.
>>43140920I'm looking forward to your explanation as to how Ame gives a shit and the others don't
>>43136366>two Fauna streamsThis was made by a sapling wasn't it
>>43140870When was the last time JP had shitty sound at an offcollab? I myself cannot remember any such occurrence
>>43140790>for a event/stream that happens very rarelywhy yes, there should've been a nigga with that single responsibility on their day given the amount of resources that cover should have in their home country
Because I am bored about our fantasies with the EN 3 debut dates. I want to know is anybody interest in the EN mc Witherfight? When is that going to happen?
>>43140946Pekora streamed 3 times on valentines day
>>43140948Maybe some live 3d but yeah, they're pretty good at it. Didn't wanna sound like a last samurai.
>>43140946They're both Valentines streams tf do you want?If you separate them out it doesn't change how much money she made on valentines for her valentines content
>>43140920Anyone that collabs with males doesn't care about hololive
>>43138093I don't think it's only that alone.The reason Holo and Niji are thriving is because they're corporate entities, and they allow for a lot of support systems in the background that just allow the streamer to do their thing. This is the opposite of modern twitch streaming where the streamer is expected to know every technical thing in relation to OBS etc. and ALSO take care of their branding, marketing and stuff.The richer ones can hire people to do that for them, but the dynamic will always have them at the top.Being corpos also allows them to have weight that they can pull into politics - both within and outside of their own industry - netting them sponsorships and new deals all the time, while the girls don't need to bother about anything and just have fun streaming.This style of "corporate" streaming is completely looked down in the west, thanks mainly to Machinima and corporate entities like it. American corporations' general cutthroat culture and general low reputations didn't help either.In Japan, corpos are at least somewhat regulated by the govt, but in America the corpos are what run the govt and decide policies (e.g. Disney and copyright law). So there's a lot more leeway for corporations in Japanese culture. It partly comes from Yakuza Zaibatsu culture as well, where company people would generally protect the not so well off instead of sucking up their wealth.There's a reason VShojo cannot clamp down on any of their girls' content, they will face pushback from every single fucking side, including the girls themselves and the audience watching them. Nobody gives a shit about "VShojo the corp" just the girls within it. This was mostly the case for Cover and Anycolor as well in the western sphere for a while, but a continuous buildup of goodwill has allowed them some leeway and the cohesive nature of the company means that people generally support Cover and their policies as long as it's not hurting any of the girls. But even now, at the end of the day, the girls take preference, and Cover is just one bad mode away from losing all their hard earned goodwill.
>>43140412Two weeks after Holofes. EN4 will be released seven months later
>>43140417Council>Mumei>Fauna>Bae>Kaela
>>43140948I distinctly remembered Gen 2 off collab in a karaoke booth it sounded bad
>>43136366How did IRyS lose so many pay pigs?
>>43140967Probably not until Myth is back from japan, and if we assume Council is going back even later. The group was Kiara/Mumei/Gura/Fauna and apparently Ina was interested in joining them if it weren't for hiatus, that kind of grouping isn't happening anytime soon.
>>43140412one month before fist contact
>>43141070If you think that's bad, don't look at Wamy
>>43141070This is what happens when you give up on streaming
>>43141092>fist contact
>>43137471is that the female version of a dick pic?
>>43140948Noel, the audio specialist, in the Mario Party offcollabthey even delayed that shit by like 30 minutes for her to sort it out and she wrote an apology tweet after itit was like a month ago my nigga
>>43141092>first contact>twinkle4you implies stars/spaceEN3 are aliens confirmed
>>43140552Kronii is a boon to most collabs she’s in. Back when Council and SNOT used to collab much more a lot of the iconic clippable moments were based around her. You might not like her but she’s not a debuff.
>>43141070They got fed up with the >Ohh, throat hort>Ohh, sorry, I am sick again, oopsie I am one of them. Now I became a husband even though I can't understand shit Nenechi says
>>43141189Isn't twinkle4you an Uproar/StarsJP concert thing?
>>43140684>>43140589Or the other girls could have just came closer to the mic. But Gura showed up asleep and pretty much gave a rat ass like all other full myth collabs she been in lately. Ina should have gotten her ass off the carpet and sat closer. The more people in a collab the less ame speaks so tell her to speak more. There you go all problems solved and have mori and Kiara move closer to the back since their voice carries more than others. This is not even counting myth never have that good of chemistry with each other like other gen.
>>43141070What do you expect from people?She doesn't have the same privilege that Myth has.
>>43141186I didn't watch that one, is there more instances of this happening like it does for holoen every time?
>>43141231>Isn't twinkle4you an Uproar/StarsJP concert thing?yes
>>43141053This unironically
>>43141164no this is the female version of a dick pichttps://files.catbox.moe/v6jahg.webm
>>43141192Kronii is an excellent prop but a poor streamer.
>>43141242>of this happening like it does for holoen every time?>every timeThe Karaoke, the Switch Sports, and the Taste testing ORK collab did not have these issues btw.
>>43141242Last week CHADcast has no audio problem at all last samurai-chama.Also stop moving the goalpost
>>43140932While I do agree with what you say, there are things that Cover can do to solve 90% of the common technical problems that the talents tend to have. Standardizing equipment setups such that everyone can qualify for the type of content that is expected of them as a group would have gone a long way to solve this particular issue (and many more).
>>43139949When i first watched pekora i also found her annoying but now she's one of my favourites.She's is an acquired taste.
>>43140719dumb anon, obviously it was line stamps, where would she get chocolate when she's inside Matsuri's sex dungeon?
>>43141254That's more comedy than sexy
>>43139249I wonder if Yagoo read that report I shot off against Ragus."A representative will contact you" appearing after submission was kinda scary, but at least I wasn't schizo about the complaint. They still haven't mailed me back though, so things are still probably in limbo.
>>43140239Not a showcase
>>43141070You can't be both flaky AND meh with your gfe content. The car date 2 was ok, but the some of the bits went on for too long. And it also didn't really feel like a date
>>43141266Tell her to start voice acting streams and Minecraft again and she’d be a great streamer too. Dunno why she keeps debuffing herself with streams she must know people don’t want to see.
>>43140412Seriously though, where in the fuck is JP7?
>>43141254Actually **THIS** is the femake version of a dick pick>and it's fucking disgusting
>>43141070Serious answer, it's because of her breaks and her being sick. I unironically think this was by far the best IRyS stream we have ever had, still sucks to see her her hardwork not getting the attention it deserves. This was by far the best Valentine's stream of the day for any En, and yet it ended up generating the least amount of viewers. Got mogged by Fauna, Mumei and Mori.Well but I really don't care about her numbers anymore. I am just happy she is back to being Genki again
Tenma is such a cute hag I should have started watching her earlier
>>43140981>>43140997Seems like the answer is "yes"I'm sorry but no one is gonna take that seriously
>>43141070Jumping the gun a bit? Its not like she was ever the very top of EN SCs anyway.
>>43139249Faggot-tachi, Yagoo has had this experience before with Stars JP gen 1. You think he'd listen to your schizoid ramblings now?
>>43139417So did an Cover employee as well
>>43140291...Mori 3.0? Too early?
>>43141417Numbers is gonna be taken seriously, bitch
>>43140948NoeFureTakaMori MariPa where Noels audio was fucking garbage
Does anyone have the chart for march birthdays and anniversaries? I want to see when the new gen could debut.
>>43141434Theirs was warranted tho, yours isn't
>>43141417Nigga who cares it's the monthly tallies that get reposted all over the board
>>43141413what the foxy doin?
>>43139690why does it feel like Gura prefers to interact more with the JPs, despite knowing fuckall Japanese?
>>43141316>there are things that Cover can do to solve 90% of the common technical problems that the talents tend to haveThat's operating from the assumption they have anyone more competent than the girls themselves, or that they can hire one.>Standardizing equipment setups You and I talked about this before. They can't do that without "casualties", the requirements for a girl that plays instrument (and needs low latency and certain hardware) is different from that of a chuuba that plays heavy games, or a chuuba that likes to edit her own videos, or one that does ASMR, or one that has a jerry rigged 3D studio in her basement.Anon above mentioned well, multi person off collabs are so rare having the eventual scuff is acceptable.Not fixing the scuffle despite audience protest, and not learning to avoid repeating it is not acceptable tho.
>>43141417If you separate the streams she's still going to be #2 because it'll add up for the day. Please explain what's the difference, Anon? Or are you saying only 1 stream should count despite her doing TWO labeled Valentines streams?
>>43141473>could debut.
>>43141254source
>saplings using their artificial ranking to shit on IRySnot even surprised desu
>>43141474I'm not him, but i'm sure his essay was filled with less contradictions
>>43141495because you're a schizo.
>>43141354>The car date 2 was okAlmost everyone agrees it was better than the first one in every single aspect except for the choices of songs.Also in my opinion it was a perfect stream. Had some Gosling moments, has some yabai moments and also had some comedic moments. Also the roleplaying was a plus imo. It actually felt coolAnd I am saying that as a Hooman. For me this was the best valentine's stream after Mumeis
>>43141495>JPAre professional and do their best>EN
>>43141495Gura just doesn’t want to stream. She has no issues hanging out with Myth house offstream.
>>43141500Yes, choose her highest stream because everyone else only has one stream, even Mori who also streamed 2 times
>>43141316theres no setup that every girl would be happy with.
>>43141388Ah, it's like I'm back on old /sp/ again
>>43141492valentine's date, she fucked up yesterday and had to move it to todayshe is talking about mcdonalds toys
>>43141506it was revealed to me in a dream
>>43141509>self-admitted unhinged schizoprenicUh, sure
>>43141354Did we watch the same steam anon?
I think Moom is the best EN singer.
there are actual underaged reddit kids in this thread.
>>43141372Because she's a misandrist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYHNZ-SlKkShe kneeled to the mob
>>43141254that must fucking hurt
>>43138039Nobody said that ever, Yagoo seem like a softie by all accounts but he doesn't make all decisions obviously. I still wonder what happened to the compliance committee that they've established after Coco yab when investors got angry, it's purpose was to avoid drama with foreign markets pretty much is it still around?
>>43141502yeah what about it?
>>43141593>Unlistedwhat a bitch He thinks this will keep anyone from reporting him leaking membership?
>>43141579She isn't. I am a Hooman and today she was underwhelming as she was sick
>>43141593>mob
>>43141593I wonder if this guy already got his free OpSEC check
>>43141593Altaire strikes again
>>43141579>>>/hlg/
>>43141648Gura owes money to Cosa Nostra and thats why shes in Japan
>>43140089> calls Pekora annoyingkek80% of her viewers had that as her first impressionhe's a future nousagi
>>43141354Wtf did you watch?
>>43141517>Almost everyone agrees it was better than the first one in every single aspect except for the choices of songs.Yeah which is kind of a big deal imo. Like don't get me wrong the song selection was mostly fine, but you aren't gonna get someone to gachikoi over smile bomb, you WILL get people to gachi when you sing romantic english songs>>43141572Dude I'm sorry if you feel otherwise but IRyS doing her incest voice changer bit gets old after the 4th time.
>>43140412
>>43141722Anon, you're clearly in the minority here
Oh for fucks sake, why would anyone in /#/ want girls to play that wizard kusoge anymore. It has been proven it's numbers poison. Go to catalog with your members leaks.
>>43141474>>43141566Nah, their leddit mod's trillion word essay was mostly them making bullshit excuses for pissing everyone off by taking moderation advice from discordfags. They denied everything then when some guy posted receipts they deleted them and banned him
>>43141722Sure...
>>43141741I'm clearly not considering she made less money this year than last. Which is how this discussion started
Why do IRyStocrats act like this is their split? Mention some numbers atleast if you want to discuss her.
Thanks bros many yous and I didn't even need to samefag
>>43141774t. sapling
>>43141752i like the pic>i guess is time to moderate
>>43141747Well I've watched so many hours of it and it was all in nip. I need context now.
>>43141752Look, T-chan is an idiot, no argument from me here. Clearly Cover needs a more seasoned social media manager. But what do you expect when nijikeks kept on trying to covertly shill their livers and trying to push the limit on what's allowed or not?
>>43141771>>I'm clearly not considering she made less money this year than last.Everyone in HoloEN did, it doesn't mean much.
>Views are less than last year>SC are less than last year>"You're in the minority people liked it more than last year"What kind of cope are IRyStocrats working on?
>>43141500Just ignore the schizo, anon. Fauna did two valentines streams and obviously both should count since the were>labelled as a valentines event>streamed on the same day
>>43141774>Anon asks for the reason as to why she didn't get as many supas>Instead of admitting that the stream has Jo songs schizo stars deflecting>Muh, IRyStocrats stop acting like this is your own threadAnd I am actually surprised people call her a numberfag despite all of this
>>43141495Gura just didn't liked that this stream was organized on the day she wanted to do Valentine's stuff and get some rest, she was totally okay in the Kiara stream
>>431415934chan is as pathetic as the troons>noo you have to play the game, you have to be based and stand up to the hecking trannies and make them dillate>no i don't care if the entire point of corpo vtubing is playing it safe and that's protected all of us from so much drama i want to own the troons i wanna i wannafucking dillate, /vtrannies/
>>43141882Fuck off
>>43140417SNOT
>>43141771Because it was a JP stream retard. If it were an En singing stream ofcourse she would have more people watching her and more supas because people here don't speak Japanese. It's not that deep bro
>>43140412They are getting taught Business English right now
>>43141946Make it SNO+Kaela
>>43141871Shills have nothing to do with it, some guy on discord just convinced their mod that the big bad homo antis would shit up the place after the announcement if they didn't lock everything downOf course locking everything down CAUSED a flood of shitposting and made everything a hundred times worse
>>43141771Almost all of HoloEN is down in terms of SC compared to last year anon, clearly the issue is not IRyS' performance
>>43141473No one?
>>43141968Love!
>>43141895Iirc Gura mentioned that she had another full day of dance practice and starting it off the day with a mandatory shill stream probably wasn’t her idea of fun.
>>43141882Stop samefagging and see >>43141891>>43141947
>>43141990Trump will fix it
>>43141986Anon, they fucking locked the board down when they announced Rushia was suspended.It's clearly in the SOP
>>43141968Snot is not snot if there’s no clock woman to bully. That’s like 50% of their dynamic
>>43141871IIRC the Pomu Kiara shill guy also pissed at T-chan's after she made that stupid "yeah, this broke the rule but I allow it" comment.
>>43141882IRySchizo, please
>>43141599I don't think so, it's like trying to shake your hips to spin your willy
>>43141593not worth it is better than ''muh cause'', can you imagine Gura leaving a HP vod alone when she is barely streaming? drama fags would camp that shit not to even mention her live chat that she has to moderate by herself when she sends people to the ''funny farm''
>>43142047during gura's first outfit too, they knew about the rigger lol
>>43142006https://hololive.wiki/wiki/List_of_Debut_Anniversarieshttps://hololive.wiki/wiki/List_of_Birthdays
>124k veiwshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQzVdHpjmXY
>>43142047I like this explanation from the people defending them because it tacitly admits that debuting more homos was just as unpopular as firing one of their top talents
>>43141747Muh hecking culture war. Somehow "I don't care enough about HP to play it what with the whole shitstorm it gets streamers into" is a controversial statement to the /pol/rotted brains of anons.No wonder people like Pippa are on the rise. Turns out all that shit about "wow I love how vtubers stay out of drama and politics" was bullshit. It was about them staying out of the wrong politics only.
>>43141106Qrd? What happened to wamy? Did her menhera break hurt her that much?
>>43142055Only if you watch clips and care about dynamics from a year ago.
By the looks of it, IRyS numbers are in a gutter. I hope she graduates soon. And now before you IRyScraps calling me Nijinigger, I don't give a shit about Niji. But just admit your oshi has reclined and Mumei and Fauna have inclined. Nijisanji is 1000x shitter than Holo En
>>43142116>firingI said suspension, faggot.And yes, Cover knows about unicorns, this is not their first rodeo.
>>43141593...This is your queen, ENbros?
>>43139949Forsen used to write fanfics on naruto forums, he's just being tsun because chat is watching him.
>irys vs fauna vs mumei
EN is dead
>>43142126Ask yukimin, from the outside perspective I don't see much changes
>>43142170They didn't lock the place for more than an hour for any other news except suspensions and graduations, it is unambiguously a thing they've only done for really bad news
>>43142164Are you Kiaraschizo from /hlgg/ who larping as irysschizo rn?
>>43142118Don't even know why /pol/tards want people to play it since the game is basically progressive propaganda.
>>43142206It's true though. 2/3 have inclined. The more you cope, the later you will realise
>>43142231You're wrong >>43142102
>>43140227Mori doesn't even need to ask the JPs, Council figured out how to not have shit audio in off collabs already.
>>43142237I don't know why people are pretending the girls wouldn't enjoy it
>>43141496>That's operating from the assumption they have anyone more competent than the girls themselves, or that they can hire one.Cover literally has broadcasting studios, websites and other IT related shit going on. If they don't have someone on site that has enough knowledge to create a technical package of sorts that all girls are expected to have to ensure that they all have the same baseline level of quality for content would be, in my humble opinion, a highly disappointing surprise.>They can't do that without "casualties", the requirements for a girl that plays instrument (and needs low latency and certain hardware) is different from that of a chuuba that plays heavy games, or a chuuba that likes to edit her own videos, or one that does ASMR, or one that has a jerry rigged 3D studio in her basement.Almost all of that is specialized equipment, and that is not what I was referring to and even that is fairly easy to standardize given that we have entire industries built around these niches that are also partially integrated into the streaming business.>>43141543Most of these girls are tech illiterates, which is why you see some of them trying to use things that do not meet technical quality standards for the content that they want to produce. I am willing to bet that most of them wouldn't even care as long as they get their shit to work with no additional hassle to them.
>>43142164Trying too hard. Go back.
>>43142268That was for an hour anon, not a day, and they do that when they don't want a hundred people racing to spam the first screenshot to farm internet points
>Trannies, T-chan dickriders and the usual holo vs holoIs this a three-way war between tempiss sisters, nijisisters and the tranny tourists?
>>43142084IIRC his problem was more that T-chan didn't actually weigh in until long after the fighting started, making the ruling useless either way.
>>43142271In EN? A good chunk of them would probably dislike it.
>>43142118>war>rolling over dead due to the opinions of 0.00001% of the populationCope harder
>>43142306Wrong
>>43142139Their collabs from a year ago were the best SNOT content though. Wolf Quest collab where Kronii was dead tired and low key was much worse in comparison
>>43142235Kiara has also reclined heavily. Her superchats have taken a dip like IRyS. All I am saying is that there are some Holos who are inclining. And Irystcraps should unironically watch her vod instead of fighting with me. Irys is on the verge of becoming the next Kiara
I wonder what EN management will do when they see them getting below 30k 3d debuts
Who is raiding us?
>>43142183>he says as JP holos have to naked dogeza for making a joke about BL or literal Jannies
>Play the game>One side screeches at you>Don't play the game because you don't wanna deal with drama>The other side screeches at youYou literally cannot win
>>43142306How young are you? Harry Potter was a cultural phenomenon among people of their age
On another news, Vesper current stream, assuming he's not getting a "cosmetic raid" by the currently sub 1k Shinri, will end up as his third lowest stream on record and the only one sub 2k outside of Outer Wilds.All four sub 2k streams happened in the last 10 streams he did btw.It truly seems like he lost the good will of the "Tempura".Is there ANYTHING he can do to salvage the situation?
>>43142110ty
>>43142332>Yes
>>43142110It looks like the weekend of the 11th is the only feasible time to do it if they're gonna do it before 4thfes.>But AnyaDifferent timezone so it should be fine
>saplings starting to use Mumei to shit on IRyS just so people don't realize they're saplingsyou guys realize you're not being subtle right?
>>43142297The point still stands tho.Look, I don't want to come off as T-chan apologist, I just don't want to imagine myself in their shoes.
>>43142345HoloJP all played it without issue you knowLiterally all you have to do is not look at twitter, it's that easy
>>43141434love how the fucking nigger just lies at points
>>43142271this is why you don't have female friends, didn't you know that there are girls who hate twilight?
>>43142361kronii collab
>>43142298At least it seems like some of the Twitter trannies ended up here after the Mastodon folks told them to fuck off.
>>43142361>Is there ANYTHING he can do to salvage the situation?Stop being a fucking retard that ghosts his bros for pussy
>>43140948JPs almost always start off their collab streams by asking the audience "is the audio alright?" and checking with each member, and adjusting the audio accordingly.The intro segments where all the members in the collab introduce themselves with their "special greetings" also stealthily help with this, along with giving completely new viewers an idea of who everyone is, as well as letting them break the ice with a joke or two revolving around the intros (e.g. everyone copying Pekora's intro during some collabs with her).I'm gonna check the offcollab stream now and see how it went to compare.
>>43142374>shitposter trying to start shit with a fanbase by using another fanbase in order to pretend they're not blatant shitposts You realize you're not being subtle right?
>>43142338Wow you are retarded and your analogy is stupid, since they apologized AFTER saying a based take
>>43142110Looks like the first half of march is up for grabs
>>43142361Who cares. The sooner they collapse alongside nijiEN the better
>>43142283>to ensure that they all have the same baseline level of quality for content would be, in my humble opinion, a highly disappointing surprise.VShojo CEO spent a good part of the 11M USD venture capital injection he's got trying to create just such standardized environment.It would be a revolutionary product, if he ever manages to actually build it but I sincerely doubt it is even possible.
>>43142345Nah thing is the people that love and would fully protect the girls don't actually care about what games they play.It's just a complete waste, they can have fun playing and be fully protected because they are an idol. There would definitely be kino moments in those streams too, I've watched the game in Japanese a lot and it's very whimsical.
>>43142352The only known Harry Potter fan in EN is InaThe rest are unironically too zoomer or too weeb to have cared about it
>>43142448Are you talking about that retarded backpack?
>>43142361the whole tempus shtick is built around muh unity and he did everything he could to blow it up
>>43141593Kill yourself faggot.
>>43142361>Is there ANYTHING he can do to salvage the situation?Unironically EN3 needs to drop, be popular, and collab with them a lot. There is no universe where male vtubers are maintaining significant popularity. Luxiem was a complete fluke with an entirely different market than intended and they still manage to lose their popularity. Women are fickle, disloyal fans.
>>43142369The way I see it at quick glance, April would be much better than March.
>>43142345>Play the game>One side screeches at youEN should take lessons from Astel. Just block the noisy nutcases.
>>43142402Don't attempt shitty memes at me sis, I have watched thousands of hours of Hololive. I know the girls.
What is the time between announcement of a new gen and debut?
>>43142338>this negro actually never listened to Marine's apology heh
>>43142361Stop being weird. It's clear most of his Hololive fans are abandoning him, he needs to integrate into the "Tempus box".
>>43142483Yes but it is not retarded, it is exactly what is being proposed here: a standardized package that allows anyone to livestream with little technical knowledge, even from adverse conditions of networking and location.
>>43142271Most of the girls would fucking hate it because it's a genuinely boring game unless you love Harry Potter. I was hoping none of the girls would play it even before I knew about the tranny boycott.
>>43142332Kiara also didn't do a valentine stream, no matter people try to cope that the Holocure stream was a valentine stream. And Kiara is still top SC in 2022 AND for Jan 2023.
>>43142472Let me ask you a question, are you a Harry Potter fan? Because I've watched pegor and FBK stream and frankly it's not that good or even memeable pekora ability to turn anything into funny moments notwithstanding
>>43141593Oh she's well. Thought she was back in her October state after the collab
>>43142525Whatever Cover feels like. A few weeks in Council's case, a few days for Tempoop, a few hours for HoloX
>We have come to a point where in criticism towards IRyS makes you a nijiniggerListen to you sharts. I don't care if she is the #1 of En or last. I barely watch her. All i am saying is that she has heavily reclined. And if you all say she has improved her content, then that's bad news. As what will happen once you become a little demotivate?More people will leave her. You all keep asking for En 3 but don't realise that for the current landscape, it will unironically turn some Holo's into a sub 3K shitters. I just hope she doesn't recline anymore than she already has because at the end of the day no matter how rude I am here, I don't want her actual career to be affected as it will bring the value of Holo en's brand down
>>43142522yeah, thousands of clips, retard
>>43142545As if it matters whether a holoEN finishes a game kek do you even watch streams
>>43142525Anywhere from 2 weeks to like...a day with Holo X?
>>43142345The only winning move is apparently to say you hate Harry Potter and its stupid so that will cause both sides to back off.
>>43142322I can safely say Mori/Ame/Kiara/Fauna/Mumei/Kronii would all dislike it
>>43141946SharkNatureOwlTako
>>43142540I don't think even Vshojo has that anon, and they invented streaming backpack
>>43142381It's all hypothetical obviously, since we can't see the alternate universe where they didn't piss off the ledditors by forcing everyone into a homo sticky, but I'm 99% sure it would have been less of a mess than what they didThe whole problem is their leddit mod doesn't have a fucking clue how to be a social media manager, but they're not going to hire anyone competent to do it
>>43142561I mean, objectively, it is. A low quality one, but a stream.
>>43142579May I interest you in some meds?
>>43142579Stop trying so hard.
when is this happening?
>>43142590Yeah, that's why I know most of the girls would fucking hate the game.
>>43142097your willy doesn't weigh that much though anon
>>43142474No need to care about HP. It's a great game in its own right.
>>43142629That's my point. Anon makes it look like creating a standardized idiot proof streaming setup for retarded women is something not only easy but already available.>It's notIt's the silver bullet for the industry and anyone managing to do that has a product that might be even better than the Hololive or Nijisanji app
>>4314264918th 5pm WIB
>>43142497>Unironically EN3 needs to drop, be popular, and collab with them a lot.So release the long awaited new gen, make it crash and burn by collabing with homos and homos still won't get significantly better numbers. Great fucking plan, anon. Fuckin hell.
>>43142662Elden Ring was a great game in its own right but Fauna refuses to play because of the backseaters. Some people just don't wantt o play certain games.
>>43142642>>43142645Whatever, deep down you know I am right because this is what happened with Myth and Council
>>43142641>objectively, it ishttps://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1624011716630843394It's really not. She released her schedule with Holocure on it without even realising it was Valentine's day. At best you can say it's a stream who happened to exist in the same day as Valentine's day in some timezone.
>>43142649weekend
>>43142635I mean, Cover saw what happens with Stars JP debut announcement, I'm pretty sure they don't want the same thing happened twice.this is literally a damned if you do damned if you don't situation for them.
>>431426496 hours after Tako I think
>>43142629Why backpack tho? Who will spend thousands of dollars for something that lets them walk around a con like twice a year? Only a few very big and wealthy streamers would bother.
>>43142579>You all keep asking for En 3 but don't realise that for the current landscape, it will unironically turn some Holo's into a sub 3K shittersThey're heading there anyway. EN is dying and needs a shot in the arm to survive. What you're saying is "w-well the shot might kill them or cripple them" but they're dying anyway.
>>43142702Right before Ina 3D? that's kinda tough.
>>43142497
>>43142662then you should stream it retard
>>43142579maybe stop acting like a deranged obsessed schizo if you want people to give a fuck
>>43142568I don't know if you were around for an SC screenshot I posted but it had harry potter in it kekI'm not a giant fan or anything, I just like movies.>>43142602Wrong, even Fauna who doesn't like Harry Potter would enjoy the game.
>>43142579>You all keep asking for En 3 but don't realise that for the current landscape, it will unironically turn some Holo's into a sub 3K shitters.90% of this post is a retarded schizo mess, but I see people bring this up a lot and I don't understand where its coming from. The lower level of group has never had much to fear from a new Gen, they've already hit their floors. It can only go up from there.
>>43142718>this is literally a damned if you do damned if you don't situation for them.The fuck are you talking about? All they had to do was not lock the subreddit and delete stars anti threads. Instead they laser focused every single person on that subreddit into the sticky where they could read complaints about stars and possibly agree with them.
>>43142718What happened with Stars JP? I never look at reddit outside of a thing I have set up to ping me when Watame posts on it
>>43142721It's not about backpack anon, I'm saying that even the bigwigs of Vshojo who invented streaming backpack don't see much benefit towards providing their talents with a "standardized streaming package" like that anon said.
>>43142497>EN3 needs be popular>and collab with homoskek, you'll never have both anon
>>43142718here is a novel and wild ideadon't post holostar news on the hololive reddit and instead use the holostars redditmaybe it could even bring some live to that dead and forgotten place
>>43142718For fuck sake, that was not even the first StarsEN debut, the previous one was met with glee, a deluge of memes and fanfare.The reason they locked is because they KNEW it would not be well received, they KNEW it was a bad decision and that the audience (the general audience of the EN branch) would hate and make them know they hated it.That's why it was locked, not because they anticipated a minority of retards making a fuss>because a minority of retards made a fuss when OG Tempus was announced, and the community simply swamped them with positivity
>>43142361I've seen so many people in /MANS/ cancel their memberships because of his anti-unity retardation and if that's happening in their hugbox on here, you can only imagine the reception is far worse on twitter, discord, and the doxxsite where he's been getting ripped apartHe needs to re-enter the Tempus box if he doesn't want to keep bleeding.
>>43142775>delete stars anti threadsDo you seriously believe this would defuse the situation? Are you for real?
>>43142708I didn't say it was a good plan. I said it was the only one that would let the shitters survive. Like if you asked me for a plan to save Somalia or some shit and I'd say "well USA could just literally give them gibsmedats forever, they can afford it". Sure it wouldn't be good for USA, no one would want to do it, but it would work.There is no world in which Stars and Somalia prosper on their own.
>>43142361
>>43142718they could lock leddit for a week and still nobody would watch homos, as seen with tempoop
So is it the boys at fault that they are doing poorly or is it the fault of cover?or maybe it's a mix of both.
>>43142724>>43142766I don't care, what I am saying here is going to happen eventually. Over here I am kidding half the times saying how numbers are in the gutter and she should graduate but I am unironically worried about Ens like Baelz, Kiara, IRyS and Mori. They will end up losing a huge amount of viewers if En 3 doesn't blow up .Yeah I don't watch her and use them to shit post, but I shitpost with them over here.
>>43142862the fault is male vtubers in hololive.if there was no holostars, FBK would be getting 900k CCV
>>43142844Yes? Do your job tranny chan. How many stars anti threads do you think fucking redditors were gonna make anyway?
>>43142345oh nyo, I'm getting QRT'd on twitter! what shall I do!
>>43142724There are two camps in EN3 discussion. One wants to try something to revitalize HoloEN. Other doesn't. I wonder who would want to be in the second camp.
>>431427765ch had multiple threads about it and somehow they managed to get Miyabi address or his email address and terrorized him for 2 months straight.
>>43142827It was extra funny that on top of forcing everyone to post in the homo sticky, they had a stickied comment in there saying "don't ask about EN3"They fucking know exactly what the problem is
>>43142865
>>43142865>worrying about Mori and Kiaradon't lol, they don't fight the other holos in NA primetime, they're the ones most immune to damage
>>43142862The boys shouldn't even exist, they have brought absolutely nothing to the table in their entire existence except leeching resources and studio time
>>43142844isnt it what they did anyways?
>>43142361he's somehow getting less views than the ones he got when he was suspended
whoopsie
>>43142865So you openly admit that you are retarded shitposter with single digits IQ? Bold and rare move.
>>43142945Yes, as a final solution.
>>43142944This.Also harming girls who associate with them careers
>>43142865This is the most retarded yet the most logical point I have ever read
>>43142847Go back to /pol/. You are far from home, little boy.
>>43142905Literally everyone wants EN3.
>>43142662So was Elden Ring but only a few ENs bothered to play it because not everyone likes every genre of game
>>43138886A lot of this like the T-chan stuff is just stupid rrats.
>>43142915Oh, I knew about that, I thought you meant something happened on leddit, because the homos always got a pretty positive reception there before the whole tempus 2 debacle
>>43135451ay
>>43142927No shit they know what the problem was.But I thought the one smart thing Cover does is never to rush the audition, have you seen what happens with NijiEN?
>>431429896 million deleted threads....
en3 will have good yuros
>>43142413>ghosts his bros for pussyThe true brotuber experience.
>>43142988Yeah, I do shit post here. Who doesn't??I use IRyS to troll you guys because it's easy to get yous. But how am I even remotely wrong here in regards to them losing more viewers and reclining?For the past year and half, we haven't had another gen, yet they have reclined. Mumei, Ina and Fauna on ther other hand have inclined
The Harry Potter game seems to have a lot of mind share, would probably be a buff for EN shitters.
>>43143081They don't have to actually debut them, just say "yes, they are still coming" instead of saying "if you ask about it we will ban you"
>>43142944>leeching resources and studio timeFucking newfag I swear
>>43143095>euros>goodEhhhh
>>43143112go back to watching pippa /pol/tard
>>43143132homocope
>>43142865>They will end up losing a huge amount of viewerseven if they do it won't matter a single bit, they are in hololive and all have their core audiences. why are you worrying about top10 en chuubas, if they are in trouble then noone else should even bother
>>43143142Calm down, sir
>>43142483>>43142448>>43142540The streaming backpack is an interesting idea, since tech advances will literally catch up to it and make it a viable product for just about everyone that wants a simple one-top-shop solution for streaming. But that isn't even necessary for vtubers that primarily just stream from their homes. Just creating a catalogue of certified products that all talents need to purchase (or acquire from the company in exchange for a cut of their revenue) along with a proper software stack that comes prepared for them would help.My entire point is to reduce the complexity to the talent while increasing the overall technical standard.>>43142697>>43142791Cover is already at the stage that they should be thinking about improving the technical quality of their product even if that means a slight loss of profit. That's just how much money they're making.
Man, this show is great
>>43143068Do you think Holo subreddit existed back then anon?
>>43143139you will see, you will see
>>43143142You're just randomly exposing yourself for being the political one?
>>43143110Blah blah, faggot. You don't brownie points with your "acshully". Fuck off cunt.
>>43143110Fauna's literally the only person in the entire branch that has inclined over 1 year ago. The second closest would be.....IRyS. Ina's dropped and Mumei has dropped a lot.
>>43141593OH NO NO NO NO CHUMKEKS
>>43143165>doesn't deny itgood thing to know that all the /pol/tards here are screaming about EN playing HL just because Pippa didn't want to
>>43143132Do tell me what they have done to justify any of the investment they have received?
>>43143110>Being proud of getting yousHoly fuck you are pathetic.
>>43143110>Mumei, Ina and Fauna on ther other hand have inclinedNo, only Fauna ever inclined.
>>43143174I have no idea, I didn't even know which JP stars debuts you meant
>>43142862lets say you open a mexican food restaurant, you sell traditional stuff, everyone working there has mexican heritage, the products they make appeal to a particular group of people that want to eat mexican food and get pretty popularnow, you have the BRILLIANT idea to add chinese food to the menu and you bring chinks to work, no, you didn't open another restaurant, you are using the same base to promote your chinese food, you make your previous workers try to sell chinese food to your faithful clients but they simply don't want itthat's holostars
>>43140948>>43142424Okay, I see the problem.Credit to Mori here, I think she TRIED to do it in the style of JP collabs, and started having everyone introduce themselves.The problem was the fucking ADHD Orange bird who just could not help herself from interruptinghttps://youtu.be/hyQ5fd3mBjE?t=419everyhttps://youtu.be/hyQ5fd3mBjE?t=528fuckinghttps://youtu.be/hyQ5fd3mBjE?t=635timehttps://youtu.be/hyQ5fd3mBjE?t=635Chat goes "Ame Quiet" and "Ame muted" for a while, gets ignored. Cats and more Kiara rambling distracts Mori from seeing it I assume.https://youtu.be/hyQ5fd3mBjE?t=688"talk loud" she says, as if Gura can just shout for the entirety of the stream. Mori excused Gura since she had a stream earlier, so not many people pointed out the audio issue, thinking Gura was just sleepy in general. More Kiara trying to make shitty jokes and focussing attention on herself.Funnily enough Kiara didn't introduce herself. Unless you count (https://youtu.be/hyQ5fd3mBjE?t=761)) as an intro.Neither Kiara nor Ina did their "signature" intros. I don't think Watson and Gura had any special intros when they started out but idk if they have any nowadays. If they had 'em, they didn't do 'em.So 80% of the audio check was just spent with playing with Cats or some Kiara rambling, with no care given to set up the audio environment.I can't believe this retarded bird still hasn't learned how to tone herself down in collabs.
>>43143126No shit EN3 is coming, just like JP7, or ID4.What the fuck is this logic?Just because Cover doesn't says EN3 is coming every month you thought EN3 would never happens? Do you have any object permanence at all?
>>43143168It's basically the only show outside of regular game streams I care about. Hope she'll manage to get that tard bunny to step out of her house for the show too, sooner or later.
>>43143081>rush
>>43143167That's a valid idea but I genuinely don't believe tech is homogenized enough for it to be possible.
>>43143245no, holostars is offering shit on a plate for $10 and calling you an incel for not wanting to try it
>>43143247no she didn't, she kept the same setup she used for the CHAD stuff, she never even once thought about the mic and the positioning
>>43143167I think it would be a good idea to provide their new hires with a standardized streaming setup. Of course that won't help with localized internet issues but it will help with troubleshooting from the corporate side. After that they could have a standardized upgrade tree for streamers that want to spend more money as they go on.
>>43143208>Ina droppedNTA but her CCV from 2021 to 2022 got a -0,51% drop... hardly what i would call reclined, compared to Kronii's -33% for example
>>43141413Tenma's cute, but her putting some youtube video in the background in the middle of playing a game filtered the fuck out of me.
>>43143247maybe if Ina/Gura/Ame weren't so retarded to sit as far away from the mic as possible because they don't care about it
>>43143212The fact that they're basically self-sufficient now?Also, Cover literally tested every technological advances with Stars first so that holomen could use the tech at it's finest
>>43143095But will it have good yuri?
>>43143277coming on 2024
>>43143310that sounds pretty chinese to me
This thread looks worse in NA/EU hours, what happened?
>>43143164Only I, and by that ONLY I CAN SHIT POST USING BAELZ AND IRYS.As much as it hurts me to say, I don't want Nijiniggers to get upty like last year and even worse, I fucking hate the Vshojo fags more than anyone on this planet. I don't want them to give ammoniation for shit posting I will be honest. As I said, I barely watch IRyS and Baez but they seem good people. I even care about Mori and Kiara lmao even though I hate them deeply on one hand
>>43143351>The fact that they're basically self-sufficient now?https://streamable.com/4vqu44During Oga's latest membership stream, he talked about how management has ordered Holostars to make more people join their memberships.>It'd be nice if I could do membership streams around 3 times a month>Because management told me to make more people join my membership>They're telling everyone to make more people join their memberships>So I'll need to do more fanservice than I have been up until now
>>43143299I liked Porka's thursday shows
>>43143241>MiyabiIt's Gen 1
is there like, any hype at all for Ina's 3D live?is it being promoted and im not seeing it?
>>43143081theyve had en3 auditons for 14 fucking months, other en gens debuted in 5-6months from the auditions opening
>>43143410they announced it like 16 hours ago dude give them a bit
Wait, in which stream irys said that she wanted to play loli nobeta?
>>43143247The joke is that she did, she just regresses for EN collabs
>>43143397Anon, that doesn't contradict what I said at all.Even EN and ID are pushing for membership, hell fucking Haachama pushed for membership last year.
Kek im really high right now I don't even know what these numbers are
>>43143373This thread was pretty good before it was raided by retards with their Potter game agenda again. Typical.
>>43143397add to that what astel said about pumping out numbers, he even started pulling out shorts, something he never bothered to explore before
>>43143410Did you watch the stream last night?
>>43143473>>Even EN and ID are pushing for membershipehhhh
>>43143397Sounds like Star is on its death throes.
>>43143377Dude this is some next level schizophrenia
Didn't these two have a whole song about cooking?
>>43143361I'll take it.HoloX was almost 2 years since Gokisei
>>43143485what about this>8008135
>>43143142seethe tranny
>>43143277They had absolutely no mention of female auditions on their official channels for 13 months, and there was a steadily increasing amount of doomposting about it even on leddit. In that situation if you're actually still working on the product you can pre-empt this with some nothing tweet like a reminder that auditions are open, this is social media marketing 101Instead they went a year of radio silence and then told people not to ask about it, precisely the worst possible thing they could say
>>43141593> not really a Harry Potter fan, hasn't watched the movies or read the books, developed a contrarian attitude against it due to all the shilling during the peak years.> doesn't even know the basic plot or even what the houses and shit stand for, had to look up ravenclaw in the wiki> doesn't want to play it because she's not really interested in itmakes sense, no mention of troons or "controversy", the ideal response.
>>43143473>Even EN???????????????They literally don't have to because they already have mentally ill paypigs donating gift subs every fucking stream
>>43143533yes,, the shishiwata cucking good
>>43143507Risu and Moona literally pushed for membership yesterday, retard.
>>43143112It looks like they're going to be cowards and not play
>>43143112EN fanbase would drop it after the first part
>>43143541>almost 2 yearsit was less than 1 year and a half, probably like 1 year 3 months. August 20 to November 21 right?
>>43143599Aw well, just another reason Fauna is the only good EN
>>43143404All you said was "stars JP debut announcement"
>>43143582altare should take notes
>>43143485Don't smoke, it's unhealthy.
>>43143632What the fuck are you talking about retard
>>43143417>Gokisei debuted 6 months after the audition>HoloX debuted more than a year after the auditionSee the pattern?
>>43143583this is true and it might have been the reason that made the push on JP, Gura has like 10k confirmed and active members paying even when she was not streamingcompare that to a SC dependent streamer, don't stream? no money
>>43143656cope and seethehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgkv6vHXS4U
In the past 16 hours Reddit had 100 new threads created (posts? threads?)>95 about the girls>1 with Astel, Vesper and Iofi>4 with only the Stars (EN or JP)Counted by hand, sorted by newSeems like, unless there is a real concerted effort, their mindshare there is zero or close to it.
>>43143637Yes anon, Stars JP debuted gen 1 first.Do you think they debuted straight to Suntempo?
>>43143592Sure ID, but why the hell did you include EN, I have not seen any of the girls pushing for people to member, and from what I can tell the Homo's get showered in gifted subs.
>43143377Does this guy realise that him shitting on IRyS and Baelz will actually give Nijiniggers an opening. No wonder saplings are the most dearranged fanbase here.
>Harry Potter mention
>>43143656didn't you know that Fauna is Pippa's oshi? after Watame of course
>>43143732What the fuck does that have to do with her and Hogwarts Legacy if she's also not going to play
>>43143583>Tier 1You know this is literally worst than green supacha
>>43143713So if someone said there was "a holoEN debut announcement" today you'd assume they were retroactively announcing something that happened in 2020?
>>43143277>Cover has never hinted at EN3>it's been 18 months since CouncilI would say that no, EN3 is not coming.
>>43143667>7th (actually 9th) Jp genx>3rd En gen (which still gets a shitload of days without any streams at all due to lack of members)i only see differences
>>43143732Damn sucks for Fauna that her name was sullied by Pippa like that
>>43143761Please forgive him, some saplings are a bit retarded
>>43143277They're really not.Auditions have only recently been opened for EN. EN3 will come out late this year, maybe if they get enough talents.
>>43143761She is the only one who explained that she wasn't a harry potter fan and isn't just weirdos making stuff up
>>43143766Gifted memberships will is hard locked to the tier closest to $5
>>43143711how do you expect them to make UNITY WHOLESOME UNHINGED posts when NONE of the girls are interacting with them anymore?
>>43143716Kiara promoted her membership content, like, last week anon.Mori literally promoted her membership during the karaoke stream yesterday.Look, I know it's the meme that this thread don't watch stream, but at least try.
>>43143849How did they promote it?
>>43143631You're right, but my brain is too small so anything more than a year is almost two year for simplicity's sake
>>43143849thats not a new thing lol
>>43143849Mori lost a shitton of money on the concert.
>>43143849I'm sure you can provide timestamps for these. And no saying I'm doing x member stream is not pushing your membership.
>>43142980Mind showing us who is at number 1, sis?
>>43143782They actually posted their first reminder about female auditions being open a few days ago. Of course there's two ways to look at this>Glass half full: they've picked EN3 and posted a reminder to kick off a new round>Glass half empty and filled with sand and broken glass: they have just now started looking
>>43143926It sold out?
>>43143299Polden...
>>43143930>announcing membership content in free stream is not pushing for membershipSo what count as pushing for membership then, retard?
>>43143985sadly
>>43143711The unicorns unironically won. People only care about the stars when the girls interact with them and do mixed gender collabs. It's why the posts about the members in Ollie's tournament got shit numbers compared to the initial announcementWith Live x Tempus interactions currently at the lowest they've ever been homobeggars have nothing to latch on to.
>>43143719Saplings are well.....I thought they liked IRyS
>>43143766Anon? What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The entire conversation is that ID/EN/Stars are fishing for memberships and I said EN doesn't because they don't have to. Why the fuck you bringing in superchats for?
>>43143985Yeah, selling out a concert=losing money according to the sisters didn't you know?
>>43143469but whyI'm genuinely curious
>>43143849>Kiara>MoriYou seriously expect me to watch the shitters of EN?
>>43144013>>43143397
>>43143582Adding to that, Gura doesn't really seem to like games in the open world genre anyway, anything too complex and shark brain hort. See her attempt at Elden Ring, even putting aside chat being shitty it was pretty painful.
>>43143920I know, that's why this rrat that pushing for membership means they're dying is so unbelievably stupid.
>>43143573Apr 23rd 2020 HololiveEN auditions tweetMay 24th 2020 HololiveEN auditions tweet (5hours)>Myth Nov 30th 2020 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweetDec 9th 2020 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweetDec 14th 2020 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweetDec 24th 2020 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweetDec 28th 2020 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweetJan 4th 2021 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweetJan 22nd 2021 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweet (1week)Jan 28th 2021 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweet (12hours)Jan 29th 2021 HololiveEN vsinger auditions tweet (1hour)>Hope Feb 12th 2021 HololiveEN auditions tweetMar 19th 2021 HololiveEN auditions tweet (1week)>Council Dec 30th 2021 Permanent EN auditions tweet Mar 4th 2022 HolostarsEN auditions tweetApr 6th 2022 HolostarsEN auditions tweet (yagoo)Jul 20th 2022 HolostarsEN auditions tweet>TempusSep 7th 2022 Updated auditions page Dec 18th 2022 HolostarsEN auditions tweet>Tempus2 Feb 12th 2023 HolostarsEN, HololiveEN and HololiveID auditions tweet
>>43144013>Please join membership we only need x for new emotesAs an example.
I could barely notice the sisters larping as saplings hating IRyStocrats or whatever silly stuff they're trying to pull
>>43144025They seem to have some sort of inferiority complex sadly.
>>43143960they picked en3 but then fired them all because Altare vetoed them
>>43143397That's universal. Everyone has walked back from the initial gifted membership concerns, Mumei said everyone thought it would suck but have changed their minds, and several girls have recently made a point to thank the gifteds. Even Gura thanked the gifted memberships on her return stream and I'm pretty sure she's the least fond of them. Management wants to push them more than superchats, or something.
Is there a way to hide posts by IP?
>>43143985Yes they try not to sell out so they don't lose money.
>>43143960Periodically advertising open auditions is not hinting at EN3. They can absolutely open auditions and then later decide that it did not yield them the results they wanted or that the circumstances aren't as favorable as before.
>>43144026Unicorns always win
>>43144059What's the fucking difference?All Oga's explicitly saying was that his manager reminded him to promote his mengen.
>>43144037That's what I was alluding to. It's still the best meme sisters have given us.
>>43144076but it isn't only hololive that is pushing memberships, i heard another anon that some others were pushing them too
>>43144075i misplaced irys debut i think
>>43144025I like IRyS i just got jumped for thinking her valentines stream was just ok
>>43144076I think I can count with one hand alone holomen and stars that did this
>>43143849Kiara literally only tells people to gift memberships at the very end of superchat readings.
>>43144086That was a genuine sapling though. He got banned for acting like a retard and basically admitting that he was shit posting with IRyS to get (you's)
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>>43144166Because saying when is your next stream and what it is at the end of your stream isn't pushing for anything you fucking retard, it's common courtesy.