/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Squeezable and milkable

Cuddling with Spidermom

My wife Ami

>>43093525
I'm also 28 and want to marry Lisa you will also have to duel me

I miss my boyfriend.

Stream Turing Love!
https://youtu.be/EhiYAm74XH8

Only 159 days until Ami confesses her love for ME

Parasocials won

How do I find my own Lisa flavored mpdg so she can fix me?

>>43094726
keep that shit in the catalog where it belongs

>>43094572
Wow I'm kinda surprised by the older sheeple

>>43094448
Do say that

Girlfriend stream?

>>43094572
greybeard zoomer

>>43094726
It's symbiotic not parasocial listen to what your mom says.

>>43095220
Leaves his engineering job while wearing a Pavement t shirt. Bicycles down to the local brewery to try their new IPA with their charcuterie board.

>>43095159
Same
>>43095220
Just my hair, whats left of it

My momwife loves me

Why does this sheep make my heart race?

When Ami opens up music suggestions, will she post the details on her community tab or do I have to look at Twitter?

>>43096077
opened like an hour ago and she posted it on both
https://twitter.com/amiyaaranha/status/1625662919164715008

>>43094265
>Feb 14

Honma ni roku na otoko ya nai
Soroi no yubiwa hazushimasu
Zamaa miro seisei suru wa
Nanna no yo kono namida baka mitai

>>43095159
Lisa's audience definitely leaned older early on. Zoomers have just been trickling in over time.

I have never played a game where I didn't immediately go into settings and set the music to 0

>>43096823
Bucko's are weirdos

>>43096708
I figured it was young people that discovered Radiohead in highschool and now have met the first girl that likes them and similar music irl.

>>43096823
what is your damage

>>43095271
>symbiotic
that's still parasocial you're just tying a bow on it so it doesnt sound like a mentall illness

Sleepy, clingy, body heat sharing cuddles with spidermom under warm blankets while heavy snow falls outside in the night.

I will tell the world that Spider mom is GFE and you can't stop me.

>>43097044
That's like saying buckos are a bunch of dudes that have been shut in for 30 years and never met a female retro gamer until now.

Would you be happy if your oshi went corpo again?

Buckos sheeple buckos sheeple buckos sheeple buckos sheeple buckos sheeple buckos sheeple
I think it's time to back out of this thread for a bit and let it cool off.

>>43097379
No. I'd think she's a retard if she did.

>>43097177
Actually, parasociality is not a mental illness anyway. Please go seethe somewhere else.

>>43097457
I try to talk about Mio but all the Beerpals left for Discord

https://www.twitch.tv/kana

>>43097177
But anon, don't you see that she saying she has the mental illness too. Anon, she's just like me fr, don't you see?

stop feeding the catalog moron

>>43097379
i'm gonna be straight with you mio i dont really care what you decide to do after your hiatus so just do what makes you happy

Mio...

Seems like Mio's karaoke is going ahead, just an hour later than scheduled

Lets say you are in some sort of cosmically decided, unchangeable scenario that will lead to your death at the hands of your oshi and you are only allowed one last sentence to her. what would you say?

>>43095207
I hope so

>>43097886
You're right, I'm sorry.

Ami member letter just dropped

>>43098963
How can one person be so uncompromisingly sweet

>>43098963
i was fully prepared to not cry today and she really had to sucker punch my tear ducts like that

Not a single word from my boyfriend on Valentine's Day... I hope he's doing okay...

>>43099718
I'm sorry, anon..

Thinking about Lisa's modest chest

How did we have a 3.5 gen corpo and there is not a single stream on Valentine's Day night

>>43100215
They are spending time with their boyfriends

>>43100215
This is how
https://twitter.com/niniyuuna/status/1625687821200789504

>>43100505
Breadwife...

SLUGMAFAGS TWITTER SPACE RIGHT NOW
https://twitter.com/umiushiurara/status/1625700620228521984

>>43100215
u dum?
ami & lisa had streams, mio is about to stream, meru is doing her best, and i think yuuna's still gonna stream.

>>43100638
AYO?

>>43100638
NOT A DRILL
URAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>ura plays the harp

Somebody had better be archiving this I swear to God

https://twitter.com/yomicham/status/1625697598249086977
Yomi is a grubbler...

>Do you guys miss me?
YES

>>43100683
>had
It was so bad that Urara had to step in.

>>43101273
it's the 15th wherever slugma is, since that was her debut date.

>>43100638
I made a Slugma anniversary OP in the very vague hope that it would somehow meme a comeback, I didn't expect it to actually work

>>43101184
Intentionally not archiving just so I can leave it up to the mere whimsy of fate

>>43101405
She just said HVD.

>>43101505
Archive it, you fuck, especially if you can retroactively get the beginning with the music. I need to go to bed.

>>43101505
Don't do this to me she's being even cuter than usual right now

>>43101606
>>43101688
The real reason is that twspace-dl is kill and I can't be fucked to learn how to use the crawler to get a lone space, all the documentation is how to leave it on for pre-emptive archiving which is not useful to me

[Slug news]
She's an auntie now

[GREAT NEWS]
slugma has kids now with me

>I got a monkey
A
FUCKING
MONKEY

>I'm trying not to stalk anymore
>also like 3 of you are private

>>43102333
all me btw

>ura doesn't like ura

She's just as cute and rarded as the day I lost her...

>>43102516
URA HATE
URA LOVE

RARE URA SINGING. GREATEST URA SINGING SINCE TWINKLE TWINKLE LITTLE STAR

I am going to drink the entire pacific ocean so purin can walk straight onto my american penis.

>I do miss you guys
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

did she cut it mid sentence or did i lag?

I miss slugma too much...

I LOVE MIO

Girlfriend has arrived
https://youtu.be/sqU5swlgC7E

>>43097370
There's also a Bucko-Listener-san crossover audience.

https://litter.catbox.moe/tq6nu3.mp3
Here's a shitty audacity recording of Slugma's secret twitter space. Litterbox link only because I don't want to contibute to Catbox server costs too much, someone can reupload it somewhere else or I'll reupload it later. I'm not an archiver so it's missing some music she played in the beginning and the start of her saying that 8 viewers was enough, hopefully someone else has something better.

>>43102919
I'm going to miss her even more now after that space, it's like she knew exactly what to do and say to turn melt my heart all over again. I've come to love a lot of chuubas in my time, but I am once again reminded exactly why this damn slug is my kamioshi. I love her so much.

>>43102975
how do i get a menhara gf like this???

Do I keep fighting the desire to go parasocial for Lisa or do I just let it happen?

>>43103424
You are a fucking hero

>>43103534
Korean Americans

Lisa is with flirting with her true valentines... Pippa. it's over.

MIO'S LAUGH IS SEX

Lisa is flirting with her true valentines... Pippa. it's over.

>>43098149
Ami cute

>>43103708
Kill yourself

>>43097370

I started watching her because of the retro games, stayed because of her laugh, accent and how comfy her streams are.

Spidermama is great

I love her so much bros

Being a chuuba fan is painful. They feel so close then so far away…

https://files.catbox.moe/h34q5p.m4a
Better Slugma space archive
Keywords for archive searching umiushi urara twitter space 2023 02 february 14 valentine's valentines day secret spacr

>>43103972
its worse than anime because your favorite chuuba is real and you will never hold her...

>>43103603
thats it im moving to korea america right now

>>43102701
I love when she sings, it always feels like it's straight from the heart

Fuck Mio's genetics for making her body start falling apart in her early twenties

>>43097370
Well I'm not gonna say your wrong....

https://twitch.tv/yuuna
Bread time.
High chance of crying on stream.

>>43103986
>>43103581

I love this spider too much and how she makes me love her more each day

>>43097177
Study some psychology you meath breathing retard.

>>43104493
>$360 on flowers and chocolate
That day-of tax.

>I had to go pick up flowers and chocolate for Tonya and Synth
>That ended up totalling $300+
jesas...

>>43104566
stop feeding the catalog tards

I love that song and I love Mio

>>43104493
Damn bread has a nice kitchen setup, I'm jealous

it was me that made lisa delete the tweet
i called her a whore

Do people just have Amis throne open 24/7 and refresh it? Also I don't know whyy requests keep going in blank. I copy the shit in the right way.

Let the Slugma space be a reminder to all of you /tsunX/bros whose oshi is MIA right now that there is always hope. Stay strong my friends.

>>43105040
Good, now it's even more special because it was a limited release.

>>43104957
Girlfriend dying mid song and still sounding good

>You don't need recipe if you have heart!
>....What am I doing?

>>43105205
But will Slugma ever stream again?

>>43105237
Only those who were lucky (or have her tweet norifs on) got to gaze upon the sheep's amazingly cute modest chest

Every piece of affection from Lisa, every little peek into her life, every bit of skin shown, it all fills me with this impossible to describe bliss, it makes me feel so complete, but sometimes it just starts to hurt knowing I'll probably never be able to find, and then successfully woo, someone even half as amazing as her

>>43105169
Send a link to something you're trying to suggest and I'll try

>>43105768
Or people that simply checked the last thread and saw the pic posted there

>>43106131
You're lying, no one saved it and I'm part of the special club that got to see it and I'm special

>just the two of us

>>43105724
>Will probably show up on Ember's streams from time to time
>Knows we miss her and said she misses us (sometimes (a bit))
>Already on at least her third surprise comeback
>Might've even streamed today instead of doing a Twitter Space if she still hadn't uninstalled all of the software
I actually wouldn't rule it out

>>43106312
Fuck you chai. I'm gonna feed you milk knowing full well most of your kind is lactose intolerant, you stupid stinky cat

>>43101473
/tsun/ is mostly wizards or people close to becoming wizards so our meme magic is quite powerful

>>43107056
Chai gets to plant her face in Lisa's milkers every day I'm pretty sure she can tolerate lactose

What the hell, Yuuna's setup is fancy as fuck.

Lisa naizuri

>>43104566
>viewers or listeners come to consider media personalities as friends, despite having no or limited interactions with them
>an illusory experience
>audiences interact as if they are engaged in a reciprocal relationship with them
sounds exactly like a chuuba and viewer relationship. so how is it symbiotic?

>>43107685
It can be both parasocial and symbiotic. The experience is illusory both ways.

>>43107173
Chai knows exactly how squilkable Lisa is...

I know this is all parasocial bullshit, I know this is completely temporary, and I'm ready for the day my oshi graduates, no matter how far off that is. I just wish I could live in the illusion forever, feel the warmth I get when she's streaming forever

>>43106807
i beleeb!

BUT THE NARRATIVE WAS THAT POMU AND MIO HATED EACH OTHER (real)

>>43107685
Viewers get to pretend to have a friend. Chuubas get attention and money. Technically symbiotic, it's just a problem when viewers get too attached and cause problems for the chuubas, or if the chuuba doesn't something fucked up, then it becomes parasitic.

>>43107083
>about to turn a wizard within the year
can confirm

https://twitter.com/MariaParadisia/status/1625729495268302848
*tiny burp*

>>43098149
I like Garfield

>>43108404
that sounds reasonable

I can't stop thinking about that Lisa picture and my heart races every time I do? Why is this happening?

>>43109350
It's love dumbass

Alright, I'm gonna say a word and you have to guess who I'm thinking about.

Ready?

SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>43109610
my guesses go in this order
>Buckos
>Sheeple
>Lisa
>Ami
>Nen
>Slugma

>>43109689
>Sheeple over Lisa
Are we really that sexy?

>>43109773
I'd fuck a sheeple

>>43109792
welsh hands typed this

>>43109689
You don't have to call me out for being gay, dude.

>>43109867
Here's your conversion therapy

>>43110019
a cat is fine too

I am archiving this Mio karaoke because the scuff this stream is reaching critical levels....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCOVyVxC_QM

>2020

>>43109583
I'm not used to my heart beating this fast from love, or thinking about someone as much as I do Lisa

>>43108404
>pretend to have a friend
This is so judgemental. I'm 10x closer to my oshi than I am to plenty of people NPCs like you would be perfectly comfortable with me calling a friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq7dpPxqp4Y

This sheep is such a fucking succubus

Mio....

You just know how much she cares about Bae friendship, 100% one day when she will marry someone she will invite her and jelly to the wedding.
Crazy how much they bounded in that company

I will marry Mio to get close to Bae

I will marry Mio because I want to spend the rest of my life with her

>>43097379
Depends on the corpo. If it's a corpo that can provide her with the resources and opportunities to meet her goals, let her make the content she enjoys, grow her community, spare her the drama and make a comfortable living then yeah, I'd be happy.

i miss mio :(

How do I stop having sexual thoughts about the sheep?

>>43097379
If the corpo doesn't force her to change too much, Cover i know doesn't really impose identities and every one that reincarnated in Hololive really did not changed personality.
Nijisanji is a different story, Mio, stay out of that shit

>>43098149
Buckopia... IS REAL!

>>43114283
yeah, Hololive is extremely casual compared to Nijisanji and management isn't as strict either, you still can't dodge the Japanese bureocracy and permission hell for gaming

>>43114496
I'd just feel kind of sad if friend couldn't do as many covers because she'd need permissions. Doubt she could just decide to do Skyrim covers without perms. Or Netorare for that matter. I'd hate it if she couldn't play any more classics like New Vegas or weird shit like Cuck Simulator.

>>43116002
cuck simulator aside her game choice are either already permitted or easy to get permission, in game soundtrack covers are easy to get
Most of permission problems these girls have come mostly from them not asking or misscommunicating , basically woman moment compilation
Nijisanji is fucked up though

>>43101751
>twspace-dl is kill
they fixed it three weeks ago

>>43109610

>>43114283
The downside of cover is shit load of red tape, which causes delays to get things done. They always want to go through everybl autistic process or w/e like a Japanese company even if it's efficient. Other than that, they are pretty lenient on their talents and try their best to protect them from drama shit. One "down side" though is that Cover would give her a lot of works in the background, especially given what she can do and willing to do. She probably will be booked and busy and stream less (and people will probably give cover/her shit for it). However, that kind of work also might make her happy as she can probably improve faster and churn out higher quality products under holo's support and get better compensated instead of doing it for free.

>>43116401
paperwork exist in all companies (except Tsunderia) and it's not like she doesn't do a lot of that behind scene on her own as indie already....

>>43116195
They did not release a CLI version
>Just use the GUI
I hate having to find the buttons for all the shit and use workarounds to emulate the old behavior because they expect people who need GUIs to have different workflows and over-optimize for what they think you want
>Just compile it yourself
It is probably the only program I would ever end up compiling and I don't want to install sixty dependencies and try to find them all afterwards to uninstall them

>>43116582
Yea but red tape in corpo is more than just paperwork. It's a lot of waiting on communication and approval from different level of suits in and outside of the company. Irys's 2.0 and outfit ran into a lot of trouble and delay due to that. Some holo are really fucking good at pushing Holo's ass through those red tapes to get things done, such as Suisei
It helps that she's Japanese and has been with the company since gen 0 so she has her own leverage and senority within the company.
On the other hand, Niji just slam on the pedal and accelerate to chase the hot trendy thing, crashing into things, then completely disengage and straight up have big cancels or very long delay if they deem something no longer immediately profitable.

twspace-dl guide

twspace-dl --skip-download --write-metadata --write-url master-url.txt --input-url {SPACE_URL}
you can get he space url by opening the space, then clicking the up-arrow in the upper-right, then 'Copy Link'
you can remove '--skip-download' if you want to be extra safe and download it live.
the master url will allow you to download the space after it's ended even if it can't be played on twitter.
the metadata is in case the space tweet is deleted.

afterwards you can run
twspace-dl --from-master-url {MASTER_URL} --input-url {SPACE_URL}
the master url will be and ugly link found in the master-url.txt.

if the tweet was deleted, you can use this to embed the metadata
twspace-dl --from-master-url {MASTER_URL} --input-metadata {METADATA.json}

>>43111521
>tfw when an anime girl that doesn't even know me seems more interested on my hobbies and how my day went than the last girl I dated ever did
Relatable

>>43116586
windows then?
it's written in python, so you don't have to compile anything.
you'll need a python package manager though. there're a few different ones. the og is pip. i use pipx personally
if you have pip the install will be something like
pip install twspace-dl
you may or may not have to append --user

Do you know what animal is celebrated on the 15th, /tsunx/?

>>43117588
Dont say hippo

https://twitter.com/slimeerotica/status/1625780345701543936?t=eMuzB4798c0ME6kQF50TyA&s=19
Sad news

>>43118398
We have a winner, it's World Hippo Day alright!

>>43118668
Die stupid water horse

>>43096823
You better set Ami's stream to 0 then because I put in a couple bangers in there.

https://twitter.com/chikafujilisa/status/1625774697077182469

>>43119021
me on the right

SLUGMA I LOVE YOU PLEASE PLAY THE HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC 4 HOPE (DIRT THEME) ON HARP

I DON'T KNOW YOUR MARSHMALLOWS SO PLEASE

>>43103424
>Ura wears white turtleneck sweaters
HAG
SEX
HNNNNNNNNNNRRRRGGH

>>43111521
You're right. If you were to ever meet them in person you wouldn't have to start from scratch unlike a new relationship and if the chuuba knows you that would help them out in getting to know you better besides being just a screen name.

I've listened to mine act after attending a con and she started talking about some of the people in the chat she met at the con and was able to put a face behind their screen name. The one I'm talking about is Enna Alouette from Nijisanji EN. I don't like using the word oshi on her. Continuing on I wouldn't go as far as saying "friend" but a between not an acquaintance per se but not yet a friend.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I MISSED SLUGMA TWITTER SPACE

Girlfriend was basically reaching meltdown before baerium injection relaxed her a bit but getting attacked by the concernfaggots because "MUH YOU MIGHT GET HER TERMINATED YOU WHORE" scuff and forgetting things are ruining it already, yesterday it wasn't even food poisoning, just plain raw stressed out

i don't even know slugma and yet i'm falling in love. hags are powerful

>>43103424
just put it on gofile

>>43103424
Man. I have always loved Urara's voice. It's a shame she just wasn't into vtubing much.

Would Urara be my mom?

Would Urara be my wife?

>>43108573
Maria is adorable

Mio probably won't come back after her hiatus after she realises how less stressed and more happy she is married to me

>>43095170
Not squilkable!

>>43097370
That's a lot of words to say "true"

>>43100638
fuck I missed it

>>43120780
>>43122879
It's in the thread >>43103986, and there was no chat or anything so it's not like you missed a chance to talk with her.

>>43118536
Chatting with Mio is more powerful GFE than a date RP anyway

Good morning gentlemen, I love Lisa

>>43111666
Cute mom and daughter

>>43120183
Enna bro? C'mon.

>>43120183
>niji
Did you forget elira's lesson?

>>43108573
>i ate a subway with garlic sauce
the smell......

>>43120183
>The Queen of Spades
Have some self respect man.

>>43100638
FUCK I MISSED IT

>>43111521
Judgmental? If your only interaction with someone is through a chatbox on a stream, it's a perfectly accurate statement. If you consider this being close to someone or being their actual friend, then you have really low standards for what counts as a friend and are probably young and naive.
>NPCs like you would be perfectly comfortable with me calling a friend.
lmao. nice projection. I have high standards for who I consider is a friend. I don't just slap that label on people who talk to me, especially rando girls trying to earn my affection as an entertainer on a screen. There's a reason why you're a chat, a bucko, a sheeple. Not an individual. You're not that close.
>>43120183
Obviously then, it's fundamentally different. You're not a name amongst hundreds, you're a real face with a name. But 90% of chat, probably closer to 99% of chat, will always just be a name. Will only be chat. Even then, you understand that you're still not a friend. The other anon has way too a standard and is projecting that low standard on others.

>>43104318
It's not her genetics, it's her lifestyle...

>>43125038
>Judgmental? If
Spoilers: Else

>>43125071
A little from column A, a little from column B

>>43125038
You made a lot of assumptions that aren't really worth arguing with. Are you from the catalog? If not I'll still humor you.

>>43111521
>10x closer to my oshi than I am to plenty of people
That just sounds like no one likes you enough to want be your friend

>>43125978
And this sounds like you're stuck in the corpo cage and haven't actually explored vtubing

I love my spidermom and cherish every day we're lucky enough to spend together,

>>43121284
>>43121510
Urara will be my momwife.

>>43126238
>explore vtubing
sure I'll try that lol
so how much should I donate to convince myself that I'm 10x closer to my oshi than to other people?

>>43126822
$0, money is a barrier. Good luck have fun. You'll do great since you're so likeable.

>>43126822
>so how much should I donate to convince myself that I'm 10x closer to my oshi than to other people?
unironically 1 piece of OC fan art

>>43127008
I'll admit that one unironically sounds like a way to get into a chuuba's good graces but I don't think it will go anywhere beyond that

Reminder all the tsunX cats are probably being cuddled by the chuubas RIGHT NOW

>>43124601
I ain't your bro if ya got a problem with whom I like so yes Enna Alouette (and Rushia too). I want them that's all I need to say don't have to explain nothin to anybody.

>>43124719
No? I don't watch Elira even if I got nobody to watch I don't even pay attention to that white girl (at least I think she is she sounds like one). I rather or should say I actually listen to Pomu, Rosemi, or Nina then stale ass Elira. Now if she drinks she's more entertaining.

I could care less if you don't watch nijisanji. They're way funnier and entertaining then other groups.

>>43124831
Why are you using her theme for her new outfit? If it's that BBC shit that's fake. I have self respect who the fuck are you to not think I don't respect myself?

>>43125038
I won't speak for the other anon but if that's how he or she see's it I can't say much other then ask the question that being what a friend means to them. A friend to me is not some fool on twitter who follows me likewise on facebook (if I had an account) hell no. That title goes to somebody I actually trust an befriended and more importantly would risk their life to save my ass even give it when it came to because I would do it for them and I would be ten toes down as well who I'd know wouldn't lie to me nor betray me but be straight up no matter what.

*claims all your spidermom's love*

>>43109610

>>43119021
>>43119056
I love this sheep beyond words

>>43128968
>So excited for sanic week she wants to move it ahead to next week
The fastest dork alive

>>43117122
Miscellaneous Python/pip notes from a /g/reybeard
>If Python came with your computer (i.e. not Windows) DO NOT FUCK WITH IT
>Instead, install a new up-to-date version separately OR (recommended if you aren't a programmer specifically looking to try out new features) make a "virtual environment" (venv) using the venv tool. Especially do not try to uninstall a Python installation like that. You are pretty much guaranteed to fuck up your OS, I'm talking "hope you have recovery media and another way to access the internet to get help" tier. It's probably not unrecoverable but it's a serious pain in the ass for no reason.
>DO NOT EVER USE SUDO to run pip or anything like that
>The only reason it would ever make a difference is if you're about to fuck with the Python that came with your computer
>If you can't find pip or it won't work without sudo then this is because of security features that were a deliberate choice in how your system Python was configured. It isn't hard to work around, but do not.

VENV
>This is secretly the most important tool that comes with Python, not pip, setuptools/distutils or anything else
>It's a fucking lifesaver in terms of managing Python installations, and is also crucial for development (including test deployment) of your own code. Just fucking use it
>It's a standard library module that comes with Python since 3.3
>Basically it makes a copy of the Python install that can safely be modified
>Because you can make as many of them as you want and they each have separate install folders for third-party stuff, you'll never have to worry about the --user option for pip
>python -m venv <path to/name of venv folder you want>
>Change "python" as needed if you need to use a different install or if Python isn't on your PATH
>There should also be a wrapper script "venv" but this will only work if the scripts folder for the Python install is on the PATH, and it will only work for that Python
>The new venv is based on the Python installation whose venv module you used
>It will also have pip, even if the "base" installation doesn't (venv will install it automatically by default)
>It also makes "activate" and "deactivate" scripts
>When you "activate" the venv, it temporarily fucks with your PATH (only for that terminal window) so that "python" means the Python in that venv, and its scripts folder gets used to (so you can run pip for that venv)
>You can "deactivate" for that terminal window easily and you can also just close the window and nothing else has been effected, 100% safe and reliable
>On Linux (maybe also Mac idk) for technical reasons you CANNOT run the activate script as an executable, you have to source it
>If you have(or intend to make) a lot of venvs then you might want to use something like pyenv to manage them. See https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv
>Full doc https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html

PYPI
>This is not a program at all but it needs to be explained here. PyPI is the standard website where Python packages are hosted
>You can also get stuff from GitHub etc. but it's usually more complicated
>PyPI has its own names for packages that DO NOT NECESSARILY MATCH the name you need to use in Python code
>(You) can go there to do reps about a package you want to install, look up the project home page, documentation etc.
>Remember that (at least until support for older packaging systems, which are technically deprecated but still common, gets dropped) installing a package can run arbitrary Python code DURING INSTALLATION. If you fat-finger a package name and install malware then you can still get owned even without trying to use the code for anything. Package managers WILL NOT PROTECT YOU from this
>Clickbait tech journos fucking love talking about malware on PyPI. It's the same problem as with NPM and RubyGems
>If you find malware, email security@pypi.org about it. See https://pypi.org/security/

>>43129168

PIP
>This is the standard package manager and it works fine. Don't bother looking for others. Conda is for lazy people who want a very specific set of number-crunching packages off the bat, and it comes with a whole set of other problems that people who don't use it won't be able to help you with
>It's also technically a standard library module (since 3.4) with a wrapper script, but some Python installations might deliberately have it pre-removed (or the wrapper script removed from the scripts folder at least), and it isn't documented in the normal way for standard library modules
>It's not designed to be used from within Python code. People keep trying to hack it so they can have a Python program install its own dependencies but this a) is completely retarded and b) will break without warning. This is what setup scripts are for. If you absolutely have to make your Python program run pip, have it start a new process
>Sometimes there are conflicts between different versions of packages, and every now and then this means that a given Python environment (including venvs) simply can't have a specific pair of packages both in it (because there's no way to satisfy both their dependencies). Python's packaging system only allows one version of a given library per environment, because its import system isn't designed to allow specifying a version
>If you get fucked by that, just clean up whatever you were trying to install and use a new venv for it
>With an active venv you can use pip install <name of package> and it will grab that from PyPI
>Otherwise use python -m pip etc. and change "python" the same way as with venv
>If you're using a venv then there is no point in the --user option because the venv will be user-specific anyway
>--user puts things in a weird location that might be annoying to work with manually (although it works fine within Python)
>pip is also used to update itself, pip install --upgrade pip. It will check for a new version every time it installs something else, and complain if it isn't up to date
>On Windows you must use something like python -m pip install --upgrade pip because the Windows "wrapper script" is an executable and Windows haet when an executable tries to replace itself on disk. Running it the other way means Python is the executable instead, so it works
>Every now and then, a newer version of pip is broken on an older version of Python and you have to downgrade it (and ignore future prompts to upgrade)
>There might also be wrapper scripts named after the Python version, like pip3 or pip3.8. It does this in case you have multiple Python installations on your PATH and want to choose one that way. But seriously, the venv approach is way easier in the long run
>Anecdotally, it seems to be possible to fuck up your system config, such that "pip" doesn't mean the pip that belongs to the Python that "python" means. Good luck sorting that out (check your PATH), but with venvs you will never have to worry about it
>Full doc https://docs.python.org/3/installing/index.html

ENSUREPIP
>it's pretty rare to have to worry about this
>(You) can choose to skip installing pip in a new venv if you're retarded enough or have some special autistic reason for it. If you have regrets later, use ensurepip
>If pip is disabled in a pre-installed Python and you like living dangerously (or if you unchecked an option while installing Python on Windows, and have regrets), use ensurepip
>Full doc https://docs.python.org/3/library/ensurepip.html

PIPX
>In theory, this is what you use to make self-contained Python environments for Python applications, ezpz never worry about conflicts with anything else, it creates a completely separate venv and grabs every dependency needed for the one project, no conflicts because that venv won't be used for anything else
>And it works great honestly, everyone who wants their Python code to be used "as an application" can create a setup file that describes exact dependencies for that use and test them
>THE PROBLEM IS, it's not a stand-alone application and it also doesn't come with the standard library
>It's a technically-third-party Python package
>Which means you have to install it with pip
>Which means you probably have to make a venv yourself anyway
>Also if you make a lot of venvs this way you could end up with a lot of redundant copies of libraries, but disk space is cheap so who gives a fuck really
>Full doc https://pypa.github.io/pipx/

imiss.. mer u...

>>43129225
PACKAGING YOUR OWN CODE
>It's kinda complicated. It's not THAT bad but it's changed multiple times over the years and the Internet is drowning in outdated and bad advice
>A select few third-party tools, like Poetry, are very useful here. https://python-poetry.org/
>If you absolutely have to be on the bleeding edge of everything and do everything The Right Way, consider https://cjolowicz.github.io/posts/hypermodern-python-01-setup/ as a guide (even though that's already 3 years old it's still more up to date than what a lot of people do)
>Otherwise, do your reps with the official source https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/

RANDOM WINDOWS SHIT
>If (You) didn't install Python, you won't actually have it unless you got the computer from someone else or something. Windows doesn't rely on Python the way that MacOS and modern Linux do
>Therefore, on Windows it's fine to use an admin prompt to install stuff for a Python that you consciously installed "for all users"
>If using "python" at your command prompt brings up the Windows store this DOES NOT MEAN that you don't have Python on your system. I strongly recommend disabling/deleting the wrapper that makes this happen (see e.g. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/48043/how-do-i-get-powershell-python-to-stop-opening-win or https://superuser.com/questions/1437590)), then (if necessary) installing Python yourself directly from python.org
>If that happens or if the command isn't recognized, even though you know you have Python installed, this is probably deliberate and not a big problem. The default on Windows is to NOT put Python into your PATH at installation
>This is because there's another special program called py that it will put directly in your Windows install folder
>The purpose of py is to choose an appropriate Python installation based on a script's shebang line. It's a workaround for the fact that Windows has no concept of shebang lines natively. (dwbi if you don't know what I'm talking about honestly)
>It works okay and it's probably better than trying to have multiple Python installations on your PATH and then worry about how to choose one when you don't want the default
>(Not to mention getting buttmad when (You) realize that the first entry on the PATH isn't necessarily the most recently installed Python, which isn't necessarily the newest installed version)
>But none of that REALLY matters anyway because all (You) have to do is just use the fucking venvs
>With a venv activated, "python" means that venv's Python and "py" is irrelevant
>Official advice https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html

>>43128623
Enna fucking hates her fans and lies to their faces. Anyone with a modicum of self respect shouldn't fall in love with her.

>>43128132
It was really nice to see Ami's cat yesterday.

>>43122538
Bae... don't you think you should consider IRyS's feelings?

>>43126822
NTA but can confirm. It's about time, not money.

>>43128132
I can't believe this many of them have showed their pussies in public.

>>43129168
>>43129225
>>43129269
I hate how obtuse the github documentation is for anyone trying to figure out how to youtube archive or twitter archive. I get that command line programs aren't meant for beginner users but the github guides barely tell you shit when it comes to proper installation and basic use.

I don't care actually being friend with Mio.
I know i am not more special than others regulars, i can't even afford to be a rum baron.
She makes me feel good amd i find her a talented girl that needs to shine, she is my little star.

>>43129291
I can tell you know nothing about self respect and I'm not in love with her fucking dumb ass. I haven't even met or dated her in person to get there. I don't have to explain anything more to a mentally weak fool who can't see beyond their bias shit. So shut your god damn mouth.

>>43130341
You must donate your immune system to Mio if you want her to shine, it's the only way

>>43130341

My god I am a WHORE. I am in love with 4 different vtubers right now and I can't stop thinking about doing lovey dovey things with any one of them. I just want someone to hold and there are so many nice girls out there...

>>43130652
Best I can do is take my zinc supplements and then fill her up with my cum

>>43128623
>won’t pay attention to a white girl
>watches pomu

>>43130688
Name all of them so we can judge you

>>43130688
It's hard not to be a slut for all of these girls

>>43129765
It's partly because they don't think they have noobs in their target audience for whatever reason, but mostly because they don't want to make assumptions about how your computer is set up or how you want to proceed. Also like if you don't know how to use a command line or what the PATH is then it's not reasonable to expect them to teach you.
But here's a tl;dr that should work for pretty well everyone no matter what:

SETUP
>Make sure you have a reasonably up-to-date Python on your system. 3.10 should be good enough for pretty much anything, 3.8 will cover almost anything, 3.6 will cover most things (these are releases that added actual new syntax to the language).
>Open a command prompt/terminal window and cd to somewhere that you want to put to put a new venv
>Using the full path to that Python, use <path to that python>/python -m venv my_venv
>Now every time you want to add to a new package you can put it in that venv with part 2

INSTALLING AND RUNNING SHIT
>Open a command prompt/terminal window and navigate to where you created my_venv
>Mac/Linux: source my_venv/bin/activate
>Windows (CMD): my_venv\Scripts\activate.bat
>Windows (Powershell): my_venv\Scripts\activate.ps1
>Then follow the install directions from the documentation. Normally this will start with something like pip install <package name>
>(You) can use whatever it was you installed installed, again following instructions from the documentation, in this window. Every time you want to use it again in a new window, use the first two steps to activate the venv first.

As for understanding the doc tho that's kind of on a case by case basis. If you have a more specific problem you can always just post it and hope I'm around (or someone else who knows this shit). Or try /g/ I guess idk.

>>43131561
Ami, Lisa, Sara, Shiki

>>43131594
Collabs with these gorls were wild

>>43131748
No judgement to pass here, continue loving Lisa

>>43131748
You're off the hook

>Lisa trying to seduce you with her modest chest
>You accidently say something that implies her tits are small
>You now have to spend 3 hours pleasuring her and licking her chest to convince her you like her tiny tits

>>43130688
It's okay, they don't love you anyway so it's fine to love multiple chuubas

>>43130688
Based woman enjoyer. I could neve be ar gosling, there's too many great girls streaming out there.

>>43130688
Best way to go imo
It's a terrible feeling putting all your stock in one oshi and then getting burned by her
Diversifying is important

>>43132084
>>>/biz/

Am I too far in? Is there such a thing as long a chuba too much?

>>43132270
The line is far behind us, keep sprinting forward

>>43132084
This. Your oshi is going to leave eventually, having multiple cushions the blow.

>>43132382
Why does this hobby have to be so painfully temporary?

I love my spidermom and enjoy other chuubas, but my heart belongs to her and she'll do with it as she pleases.

>>43119021
>>43119056

>>43132669
She's too dang cute.

>>43131748
Good taste anon

>>43132669
No one likes lonely men, except your oshi, she loves you.

Friendly reminder to take care of yourself

I had a strange dream where Twitter implemented a new feature that instead of "trending now" on that side bar, its what random people have been replying.
For some reason mine was Tonya replying to Mio asking when she was going to lose her virginity.

>>43134476
Orlag I'm literally incapable of getting enough sleep, please send help I'm so goddamn tired all the time.

>>43116002
amelia is literally in the middle of a new vegas play through right now for whatever it's worth

>>43125666
>a lot of assumptions
You mean the standard interaction and relationship of viewer and streamer? Don't kid yourself. I'm not from catalogue, I'm just not a naive person as to presume I'm someone's friend because I anonymously chat on the internet. Usernames are still anonymous.
>>43128623
Exactly. It's starting to make sense why tsunderia girls get so many creeps doing weird shit like airtags. More than any other chuuba it seems. It seems there's a higher concentration of kids who think they're closer to their oshi than they are and so decency of separation is lost on them. The idea of acquiantence is non-existent. They seem to go from stranger to friend instantly, and I worry for my tsunderia oshi...

>>43135307
Good lineup today

>>43131214
Learn to read dumb ass before posting and embarrassing yourself.

>Doing contract work for two ex-tsuns
>Decide to check out the /vt/ thread
oh, lmao
Reminder that while you're all having a pissing match over who's closer to who, I'm actually in their DMs.

>>43120899
Now you understand the plight of the AssMan

>>43135918
I literally get to spellcheck Ami's tweets, nerd.

>>43135918
Still losing to Chai though, welcome to the LOSERS CLUB

>>43135918
I swear the thread isn't normally like this, but when an argument does happen the autismos will go at it over the dumbest and most menial shit possible

>>43136061
>I swear the thread isn't normally like this
Yeah the nijifag going off with mass replies about parasocial relationships kind of gave it away.

>>43135559
>>43135918
If you could follow a conversation, I made it clear already that I'm not talking about /tsun/ vtubers. Thanks for taking the opportunity to show your colors, though.

>>43135918
What are you doing for them?

>>43136219
larping as their friend on 4chan

>>43136245
That pays? Fuck, I've been doing that for free all along

>>43135918
Whoever's arguing is new here, we're usually all content to be parasocial freaks and joke around about it

>One MIOllion views of Love me, Love me, Love me
>New Ami cover
>New Lisa cover
Musical chuuba love!

>>43136203
>I'm not talking about /tsun/ vtubers.
Well, you are in the /tsun/ thread so why the fuck are you talking abouy non-tsun? Also, it applies to almost every chuuba, especially high 2 view and more. But if you could follow a conversation, you'd get that.

>>43135918
Congratulations, I'm going to watch for whichever name shows up in multiple upcoming credits and then tell them you were antagonizing people on 4chan.

zoomers need to be sent to reeducation camps

>>43135918
>I'm actually in their DMs
I'm in their bed

>>43119536
Slugma saying that somebody reminded her that it would've been her anniversary and that people were telling her in maros that they miss her was just a cover story, in actuality she simply saw this thread.
My source for this information? Indeed, as you may have guessed, I made it up.

>>43136956
>I made it up.
this phrase is more powerful than you can possibly imagine

>>43136890
How long until we get a picture of Kai laying on Yomis chest?

>>43136687
>every chuuba
>especially high 2 view and more
Your idea of every vtuber is the 1%. I recommend branching out, it will widen your perspective.

>>43137060
>Yomi tries to take a picture of Kai laying on her chest
>Gets an action shot of him puking all over her

>>43137105
>is the 1%
If you think most chuubas are getting buddy buddy friends with their 60+ to several hundred viewers, you need to touch grass

>>43136245
No I come here to get unbiased information dress it a bit then return it to the talents. I'm a community information specialist.

>>43137728
I hope you're actually not because I'd be unimpressed by the results. Plus it sounds like a scam zoomer chuubas would fall for

If you want to get THAT friendly with a chuuba, get in a fucking groomcord circle, some chuuba are easier than others to groom but you are gonna have to fight like fucking sharks
Pic related i like the potential behind but the obvious groomcord iron curtain around is so akward it just hard filters every new potential viewers or people that don't belong to the groomcord

>>43137728
God I hope this is fake, I come here to say menhera shit I'd never put where I think she'd look for real input

>>43137728

>>43135918
Mio... at least you're getting paid for it now... right?

>>43138064
Is the grooming stuff that bad with chapipi? I don't catch her often but she has a great voice and is cute, it would honestly kinda suck if that's true because I hate the idea of having to "fight" for a chubas attention to not get totally ignored

>>43138064
>discord was a mistake
>-Slugma

>>43137656
>most chuubas
>60+ to several hundred viewers
lol.

>>43135918
Diego...

>>43138064
That snobaste guy is kind of scary

>>43138279
>Is the grooming stuff that bad with chapipi?
it really is that bad, just take alook at her twitter.
At this point she has been conditioned in basically give up any sort of growth for the sake of the groomcord

>>43137728
Bullshit, if it were true you wouldn't blow your own cover so readily. Observer bias much?

>>43138190
I am pleased to inform you that it is fake.
I regret to inform you that she sees your posts anyway.

>>43138190
Anon...
They don't need someone to check for them they're all /here/ already...

>>43138394
>she sees your posts anyway
NTA but I took that for granted.

>>43137728
Here's some very useful unbiased information for your chuubas then: You should fire this guy

>>43138292
Try to follow a conversation
>especially high 2 view and more
Most chuubas are no names with maybe 5 people and treat it as a hobby. They don't count. This is /tsun/, we're talking about chuubas who actually try to grow and be successful... even if they defeat themselves often

>>43138342
He is the kind of groomer that will actually go full stalker on you if he feels getting left behind by you as a chuuba

>>43138367
>she has been conditioned in basically give up any sort of growth for the sake of the groomcord
I'm glad Lisa avoided that fate. I think she was starting to spiral towards that.

>>43138497
>vtubers don't count as vtubers until they reach a certain ccv
lmao.

>>43138394
Even Lisa? I mean I don't doubt that she's peeked at least a few times and I know most of the rest of them probably do check here, but if Lisa looks here with any sort of regularity than I am distraught by the idea of her seeing my horny posts

>>43138591
>there's a difference between professional and hobbyist
lol.

I don't follow her closely but I remember Chapipi choosing to not even have a discord after CL dissolved. You guys are probably being dumb again.

>>43138609
Lisa and Tomo are probably the only two who avoids this place

Your oshi is reading your posts right now and cringing at them.
t. your oshi

>>43138647
I can't even see the goalposts anymore.

Your oshi is reading your posts right now and cumming to them.
t. your oshi

>>43138782
hanabi please come back

Your oshi thinks your posts are a riot, keep it up.

t. your oshi's informant (boyfriend)

>>43138064
I hope Chips can free herself from the groomers one day, she has way too much talent to be wallowing in obscurity

>>43138658
Snobaste, Kaizo, ThatGuy and DancingCharmader are de fact a coordinated groomer group (Charmander isn't on chapipi, like either he doesn't care enough about her or he has the has full on other chuuba at the moment while simping hard on IRyS, he did told the other 3 to watch Chapipi)
Also Chapipi does has an official discord on which publicaly use it as bulletin board, and if you think Sno, Kaizo, ThatGuy don't have private channels with her you are literally delusional

Haewon would post but she is still being filtered by the captcha

>>43138782
Purin please let me buy the biggest, greasiest meat lovers pizza for you to eat on stream and take advantage of you afterwards when you're too full to resist

>>43138807
That's because you're not even touching the grass where the goalposts exist

>>43135918
based inner circle bro, feels good knowing what a lot of small corpo & indie talents look like irl

>>43138923
>coordinated groomer group
Sorry, I'm not going to trust a random post on 4chan for this kind of thing. Chapipi seems like a very level-headed girl and if she's smart enough to avoid a community discord in the first place I trust her to not play that game.

>>43138940
I'm never gonna get to see her butthole at this rate

>>43138687
I'll take this at face value and continue to make horny posts about Lisa

>>43139034
>Ctrl+F "professional"
>1 of 1 match
Can you explain for non-grass-touchers what the numerical differences between a professional and hobbyist are so that we can objectively avoid wrongthink about vtubers (professional).

>>43139567
>what the numerical differences
Now you're strawmanning. Are you an autist? Chuubas who see it as a hobby don't care if they get buddy buddy with viewers because growth isn't an objective. Chuubas who see it as a profession know better than to treat specific viewers as special or more intimate over other viewers, if they want to achieve their objective of growth. Hobbyists will rarely become high 2 views or 3 views. Professional minded chuubas will reach those numbers eventually, usually. It isn't numbers that separate them, it's an inevitable result of their mindset.
And any chuuba who wants to make this a profession of any any kind and hasn't learned from the painful lessons of much larger chuubas, like many in CL or Niji, who had drama and setbacks from inner circles and treating certain viewers more intimately than others, they don't deserve to succeed.

>>43139821
Nobody was talking about this.

all these paragraphs of some arguments about parasocial relationships, chuuba's level of professinalism, its all so boring and annoying. I hope we return to talking about buttholes and sweaty gamer girl smell soon

>>43139952
>most chuubas are friends with their viewers
Ok autist

>>43140097
>1 of 1 match

Please just make a separate thread for this argument

New thread
>>43140182
>>43140182
>>43140182

>>43140145
No.