/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>43053551
God the catalog is stypidly fast today.

>>43053695
Well, one /here/chuuba got banned for self-harm.

>>43053733
Oh, I guess that would speed things up.
Also, I only caught the tail-end of it, but what's with the sudden Mori vs IRyS nonsense?

>>43053695

>>43053733
Jesus christ, well that explains it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyQ5fd3mBjE
>3k people waiting 7 hrs still to go
wait, that cant be true, did someone raid the waiting room?

You think any of the girls care about the valentine day route views?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>71,876: Choco (Hololive)
>62,012: Marine (Hololive)
>59,321: Pekora (Hololive)
>47,422: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>45,572: Flare (Hololive)
>45,188: Noel (Hololive)
>44,296: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,942: Miko (Hololive)
>18,451: Korone (Hololive)
>17,365: Korone (Hololive)
>17,042: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,659: Mito (Nijisanji)
>15,718: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,276: Fubuki (Hololive)
>14,066: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,610: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,432: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,566: Calliope (Hololive)
>12,405: Miko (Hololive)
>12,388: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,935: Watame (Hololive)
>11,741: Ars (Nijisanji)
>11,052: IRyS (Hololive)
>10,330: Hayato (Nijisanji)

There are rumors going on that Miyu Ottavia has reincarnated

>>43053799
Pretty sure Mori did for whatever reason.

>>43053733
who?

>>43053791

>>43053771
Some faggots trying to distract from Mysta I guess. They tried to start it 5 times before it got going.

I am worried about Irys. I hope she doesn't graduate or go in another depression arc after getting mogged today

>>43053289
>soft-spoken girl
That's an understatement. She started, in a way that echoes Pekora's start, with a terribly subdued persona, excessively meek and not secure with herself.
Present day Lamy is an improvement, she found her spine

>>43053837
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Marine
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
33x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro

>>43053820
If Gura cared she'd fucking tweet about it I bet 90% of her fanbase has no idea it exists. Like most of her merch. Or collab songs. Or lives/collabs she appears in.

>>43053837
>>43053849

And they are back at it.

Kinda strange how someone like Koyori joined Holo. I wonder what the EN equivalent would be

>>43053733
>one /here/chuuba got banned for self-harm.
That one lolcow that got hacked?

>>43053771
S lot of people don't understand, that Hololive viewers genuinely resent Mori and will obviously shit on her but they can't because she mogged their beloved Irys. So they hate on her for losing todyay

>>43053904

>>43053957

>>43053820
Fauna was kinda doing a bit about it and shilled her route so maybe her

>>43053799
30k waiting room = 33k peak

>>43053799
This is gonna 20k tops

>>43054016

>>43053899
>i wanted to retweet the lamps but when i woke up they were already sold out tee hee
her twitter is only for cunny.

Chloe please, it's been almost 4hrs now. The salarymen needs to go to work in the morning to feed you money

>>43053957
Why can't fumihiko draw proper face

>>43053820
The ones at the top? No, most of them will see their views, think it performed well and go on their day, Ina might go ehhhhhhhhhhh?!? at some point in the day
Out the rest the only I see caring about it would be Bae and IRyS, both pander to their fanbase a lot, have a pairing together and both underperformed on the videos, so they might be thinking if they should change something

>>43054082

>>43053958
So how is this irys's fault?
She was not meant to be numberfagging here today. If she wanted her stream to get good numbers, she would have not included the skits and the role-play. She wouldn't have included IRyK on this stream. Shitting on her doesn't make sense at all

>>43053907
Koyori was a professional shill before Holo, that type of shilling doesn't exist in the West because westerners don't like blatant shills but Japan does for some reason.

>>43053837
6-18 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>43053272
IRyS has particularly bad sub growth, but it's an EN-wide problem
There are 2 main ways to gain subs: leeching from others (particularly Gura) or attracting & converting tourists
And to get such tourists you need:
- something at least somewhat viral (a hit song, or some new content that excel at ala AZKi Geoguessr)
- events like outfit reveals and her 3D debut
- a "rising tide lifts all boats" situation from major EN-wide events (EN3 debut, holofest, that LA thing)

>>43054135
shes truly the semen demon prime

>>43054134
Every woman he has met has been hit in the face with a frying pan

>>43054161

>>43054166
You don't have to bite the most obvious bait imaginable anon.

>>43053799(me)
Also, I think everyone kind of expecting its a 3D showcase right? What else could it be, since its only related to Myth

6 covers and 1 original song released today, wonder if any of them can get decent legs

Ina 8k get

>>43054134
shame because everything but his butterfaces are great. idk maybe tone down the pissing, but the faces are just so off.

I see that mystakes and aloucucks are seething and coping about the CHAD cripple podium sweep by falseflagging.

>>43054221

>>43054196
Or spam shorts.

IRyS, Mumei, Fauna and Bae are unironically the ones care about their fans

>>43054024
>shilled
Ehh I mean so did others. Its just a random tweet. Doesn't mean much.
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1625358529950535680
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1625393658865545218
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1625355066415939586

>>43053882
She also got rid of her god-awful manager.

>>43054285

>>43039218
I looked this up and the earliest collab that Marine had with Iofi that I could find was a 4 man collab from back in Oct 31 2020, 6 months after her debut, right around the time PekoMoon was peaking.
https://youtu.be/X4YLE5mKBVQ?t=211

This was pre-Sora friendship as well mind you.
Most of the chatters did recognize her and were just treating her as another holomem for most of the stream from what I could see.

So idk where people are getting this particular narrative from.

>>43054333

Why are Copefags always so insecure and angry when someone mentions MythChads?

>>43053847
See >>43053933
>lolcow
Some of her regulars say she was getting better just before the hacking.

>>43048130
you have to realize back then the Hollywood Pedos were running rampant, you didnt have zoomers trying to cancel 19 year olds for talking to 16 year olds, and our parents got pregnant at like 20, so while the jailbaiting was weird if you thought about it no one really cared if it was filtered through the Hollywood slop filter
Britney was also juxtaposed as the wholesome girl next door against WHORE Christina Aguilera even though they were both being molested by pedos since they were in some Disney Club together and Britney was white trash
also billie eilish is the next step of the media manipulation machine because she wasnt groomed by a hollywood pedo she was groomed by her brother to start indoctrinating people into incest

>>43054389

>>43054395
Council pulls better numbers than Myth. This is just a fact.

>>43053799
40k

>>43053339
IRyS' Caraoke was just too special for their brains to take. That was peak entertainment and peak GFE. IRyS is truly a once in a lifetimr talent and the Nijikeks are still seething that she is a Holo.

Kiara 00:06:31
Fauna 00:06:29
Bae 00:05:29
Kronii 00:04:47
IRyS 00:04:31
Ame 00:04:11
Ina 00:03:55
Mori 00:03:50
Mumei 00:03:45
Gura 00:03:41

Funny that these are all the same price

>>43054168
It's because Japan was somewhat different to the Western Internet on two important things
1. Early Internet adware. Malware up the fucking ass, horrible moving ads that would jump in front of your cursor to try and get you to click on them, etc. Not as many Japanese adopted PCs early on as the west did.
2. The horrible fucking wave of shitty RAID and NORDVPN that plague(s/d) videos, the sheer amount of it has put people off heavily on any sort of shilling, and I'm not sure if Japan had an equivalent

>>43054429
>start indoctrinating people into incest
Nice. I guess the jews are finally doing something right.

>>43054449

>>43054482
>16 hours ago

>>43054311
>>43054395
>>43054451
Stop samefagging and falsefagging nijikek

>>43054511

>>43054482
>seething that she is a Holo
This part is correct, but it's true fpr anyone who joins hololive instead of Nijisanji. They'll seethe at every EN3 member because "they should've joined NijiEN instead."

>Mysta only 8k without overlap and peaked 30min in

how do we save luxiem

>>43054580
Ah yes, the Mumei situation....

>>43054577

>>43054415
>Some of her regulars say she was getting better
A chuuba (whose claim to fame is to burp, fart and fap on stream) getting better?
The only way for her to get better is to disappear from public eye, forget everything she ever did and become a housewife and mother of three.

>>43054228
Group outfits or new original group song

>>43054618

>>43054610
It's over for Cuxiem, and by association, Enna.

>>43054610
Anon, Ina's guerilla 11th Pokemon stream in EU hours mogged him - face it, Luxiem is dead

>>43054618
>>43054672
No woman (or demon) can be this horny
>can they?

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>2/14 DAILY TALLY
11,194: Mori (Hololive)
11,052: IRyS (Hololive)
8,728: Baelz (Hololive)
8,008: Mysta (Nijisanji)
6,847: Ina (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: Baelz, Mori
2x: Amelia
1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii, Fauna, IRyS, Gura

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
21p: Baelz
19p: Mori
12p: IRyS
11p: Amelia
9p: Ina
8p: Fauna, Mumei
7p: Kronii, Vox
5p: Kiara, Gura
4p: Vesper
3p: Uki, Luca, Magni
1p: Mysta

>>43054610
>Vox's entire thing is being a manipulative man whore for teenage chinese girls
>Vox didn't do a Valentine's day stream
Stick a fork in them, they are dead

>>43054672

>>43054610
We don’t
Hex is going to war against them

>>43054729
Truth be told, the correct day for boys to stream is one month from now, on White Day

>>43054729
To be fair, that faggot is on the run

>>43054702
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
27x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei, Amelia
4x: Baelz, Mori
3x: Mysta, Ina
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, IRyS
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Fauna, Gura

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
40p: Mumei
35p: Ina
29p: Amelia, Baelz
28p: IRyS
26p: Vox
25p: Fauna
24p: Mori
23p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kiara
10p: Pomu
8p: Ike, Millie
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Gura
4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>43054610
>8k is bad now

>>43054730

>>43054729
Pretty sure he was planning to before he went into hiding from getting hard doxxed

>>43054451
>>43054482
Then how does this stream lose to Mori?
I know somenijifags are disappointed and hiding behind the Holo fan wars after getting cucked and underperforming, but how the fuck does the so called greates En stream lose to a Mori unarchived Karoke?
Irys is just boring, still more entertaining than all of Niji, but one the bring Holos.
Why does Gura and Ina always get high viewer?
Why Fauna and Mumei always get high viewer counts?
Irys is not a good singer and is boring. I unironically enjoyed Mori's stream more. Irys's stream was like wtf is going on, this is so embarassing boring

Well Nimi gets logged by Holo everyday. So I guess there's that. I can give her points for making nijitrannies and cucks see the, but that's about it

>>43054702
>taking a Z for first place
ANON COME ON.

>>43054702
nijien can still draw the month by winning 14 in a row, i believe

A genuine question, who do you attribute mumei's drawing of haachama's success to? Mumei herself? Haachama? The fans? Because all I see in comments about the spider haachama in holocure, people like to day it was mumei bit do you think that was really the case? Just wondering.

>>43054702
Mori started like 15 minutes before the new day started. There should be some kind of buffer period. Mori's stream should count for tomorrow. The vast majority of the stream was on the 15th, not the 14th.

>>43053799
if you remove kiara and ame, the stream gets a 15k boost

>>43054819
>>43054778

>>43054819
Even without the Z irys is getting mogged faggot. And tally anon didn't take the Z. Iryscucks are seething today

>>43054802

>>43054847
Not how it works
>>43054819
Anon, double check the numbers.

>>43054831
graduation amongus incoming

>>43054848
>who do you attribute mumei's drawing of haachama's success to
They hit off all the way back with many considering Mumei "EN Haachama" with her creepy drawings and her completely unhinged off-meds streams.

>>43054733
>Stealing vox' SC
>Stealing mysta's CCV
>Stealing their timezone
Nothing personal Luxiemkeks

>>43054802
>Seething because IRyS is so cute and talented
Nijiseethe

>>43053799
>Only this much
I’m sure Gura return got more and it peak at 49k, 42k after filter

>>43054848
Didn't they do the whole "College girls war" thing pretty early on after Mumei debuted?

>>43054610
How did NijiEN lose the chinese viewers? It seems like they all dropped then basically overnight and now none of guys can even get 5k without mega buffs

>THIS IS THE END
>BEAUTIFUL FRIEND
>THIS IS THE END
>MY ONLY FRIEND, THE END
>OF OUR ELABORATE PLANS, THE END
>OF EVERYTHING THAT STANDS, THE END
>NO SAFETY OR SURPRISE, THE END

Turns out "fuck around and find out" usually results in finding out

>>43054802
Anon, numbers don't indicate everything. Explain why Kronii gets viewers?
Even her fans agree they are in love with her and she is not that entertaining

>>43054702
is nijiEN ogey?

>>43054953
From my personal experience this dude design should be more appealing to Chinese fujo than Vox and Mysta

>>43054702
And you faggots were shitting on CHAD for months

>>43054729
>teenage chinese girls
You mean old lonely chinese women

>>43054899
>Not how it works
Well it should. Counting that stream for the 14th is just fucking retarded. Only 15 minutes of the stream happened on the 14th.

>>43054988
happy valentine, faggot

>>43054985
They dropped them after Luxiem anniversary and then another wave after Lunar New Years.

>>43054988
HAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED KHYO

>>43055015

>>43054961
I agree with the Nijiseethe. They should kill themselves, an I don't have anything against Irys. I am just think Irys is neither a good singer nor entertaining. The Niji's are obviously butt hurt today, and I couldn't be more happy.

>>43055024
Anon nows not the time to try and make this argument in the wake of the VN route numbers

>>43055034
>Newfag coming in and telling people how to run the tally

>Unarchived karaoke
>ASMR on the correct timeslot
Both of these streams would be strong contenders for cripple gold if the Myth offcollab wasn't today.

>>43054988
>They could've just said then that "Hey, can you not maybe? Thank you!" No, instead they have to go hard on you.
TOP KEK, in what world these people even live?

They think Anycolor is striking him for the reason they state, instead of for a simple reason
>he was a bother for them
>they had the means to make him go away
>they used such means

>>43055123
can't be worse than Kiara's offcollab with Korone on the same day of Ina's return

>>43055023
Don't care
Xsoleiflop

>>43054985
luxiem anniversary was the goodby for a lot of them
not sure why

>>43055123
She can get it the next day with Minecraft if nothing else is going on.

>>43054988
He deserves all that's coming to him but i can't help but think this recent development is kinda bullshit unless he did something retarded when counterclaiming

Between Kawaikute Gomen and Overdose, which one is better for numbers?

>>43055123
the second one is a premiere

>>43055203
I like the first more, but I think the latter is better.

>>43054992
She still is more entertaining than irys. She makes me laugh sometimes

>>43055124
>If they wanted to remove my content because of copyright and no other reason, why only remove videos where I discuss unfortunate situations such as these but skip over videos painting them in a good light with me interacting with their talents?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>43055123
>implying she's even getting higher numbers than Mumei's karaoke

So where have all the NijiEN viewers gone? Just left vtubing all together? Or have there been a big incline for all the smaller corpos? I know Pippa is bigger than NijiEN at this point, but that isnt true for any other smaller corpos right? Feels like there should be more of them getting 1k+ regularly these days because NijiEN have all lost thousands and thousands of viewers. They have to have gone somewhere?

>>43054985
Everything was artificial. B2 decided not to invest in them anymore and with the recent success of Tempus, they're just doubling down on that.

>>43055272
they're here shitting on holomen

sup faggots, how have spent your day today? I've been with my home girl all day

>>43055072
I agree with the Nijiseethe. They should kill themselves, an I don't have anything against Mori. I am just think Mori is neither a good singer nor entertaining. The Niji's are obviously butt hurt today, and I couldn't be more happy.

So, we love Mori here now?

>>43054953
He looks like a cheap imitation of Vox, in everything he does, and there is no way he can steal his fanbase, at most only a small fraction of the most fucked up and lonely fujo sisters.

Ina Z

>>43055272
Tenma is inclining these days, but yeah, I too wonder where did all of Niji watchers go? Do they only watch NijisanjEN and nothing more?

>>43055200
>but i can't help but think this recent development is kinda bullshit
He himself and I assume you too will break out of that naive shell and realize how the REAL WORLD works
>you "speak truth to power"
>power reaches to (heh) their power and fucks you with a pretext
>you call them out on the pretext, but still get fucked

>>43055315
>we

>>43055179
The situation in China is getting dire. Many people will have to say goodbye to their hobbies.

>>43055272
that's how normalfags works

>>43055340
he looks more like fuwa desu

Did a quick check of the route endings and the ordering is unchanged from last night

>>43054953
too bad he can't copy Vox's nationality

>>43055296
I'm married

>>43055353
Could you stop being cringe?

>>43055311
Mori' singing actually mogged Irys today. And Mori this past month has done mor entertaining and engaging streams than Irys ever did. You all hate her for the condom drama but she is unironically the top album record seller for all of Hololive, not just En and is genuinely one of theost funny Holo members and by far the most hardworking one. Hating on her now doesn't even make sense

>>43055272
Some of them went to Tempus. Tempus started with around 5k max viewership but they're slowly inclining to around 10k.

>>43055398
korean english waifu buff

I love this Niji vs Drama channel saga, doesnt matter who wins, more of the fans will turn away from Niji....
Win Win for us Holochads, without even lifting a finger

>>43055418
to which liver anon?

>>43055296
Go away Mitch Conner

>>43055315
>now

>>43055254
Mumei didn't say hers is unarchived.

>>43055364
also tempus inclining doesn't help

>>43055315
Always have.
The most hardworking Holo.

>>43055398
I didnt expect Mori to get less than Kiara

>>43055468
No they aren't

>>43055124
he feels so important

This Mori vs. IRyS is completely reasonable and natural Holofans conversation, right?

>>43055315
>now

>>43055315
>love

>>43055468
did vesper mog the niji homos who streamed earlier?

>>43055490
I'd rather do Eric's fat cheeks, no homo

>>43055556
I-I hate nijiniggers too anon, please believe me!!!
I'm one of you holofriends and I hate Irys!!!

>>43055556
> Holofans

>>43055468
False. While their box increased, it didn't do double. They had around 8k box with 4 people. Now they have around 10k box with 8 people.

>>43055556
Well, all I am saying is that hating on Mori now doesn't make sense as she is genuinely hardworking and provides a lot of stuff to Hololive. For cover, 1 Mori is more important than 5 IRyS's

>>43055272
i saw some nijisis frequenting magni's chat room

>>43055315
>so

>>43055640
>>43055566
>>43055561
>>43055492
Go back to global.

>>43055468
Tempus inclined because of Bettel. Also it helps that NijiEN is imploding right now,

>guess Nijisanji needs to learn the hard way to be honest maybe best stopwatch them till they figure out the abuse system don't give views it just makes it worse and hurts your vtuber they have. going around attacking youtuber there tons more indie vtuber need support
WELLLLLLL ANONSSSSSS?!?!?

I for one won't be watching ANY Nijisanji stream, VOD or clip anymore! Who is with me?!
>JUSTICE FOR KHYO!

>>43055676
>global

>>43055510
doesn't matter, even her archived karaokes do well while Fauna's singing is garbage

>>43055700
IKUZZOOOOOOOOOO

>>43055541
I mean Kiara raided the premiere.

>>43055634
And 1 Suisei is more important than 3-4 Mori's. Your point?

>>43055634
Is that really ALL you are saying, anon. Is it really?

found a rare being

Before NijiEN debuted, was this thread in harmony? No Holo vs Holo arguments?

What if EN3 doesn't get announced after holofes?

>>43055398
SNOT who??? Got mogged by tentacle hentai

>Deadbeats really think Mori is good at singing.
Kek

>>43055634
I mean 1 Mori is indeed equivalent to 5 Irys, no doubt about that, who else could ever compete in hololive pound for pound with Mori?!

>>43054988
should have sided with anyblack and shit on hololive. you wonder why blackeye is not affected? he's on their propaganda team

>>43055693
I am seeing this guy's name in a lot of places... if he is really this good and was one of 6 people selected, why did Cover wait for Tempus 2 to debut him when hype died down

>>43055839
This thread is actually the anti general so you. There will always be something negative to focus on

>>43055867
Fungus

>>43055839
nijijp vs holojp was the main shitposting material.
but i think the race of gold get too much into peoples head.

>>43053771
just some niggs humiliated themselves too many times trying to shit on irys, seething becoming obsessed
probably just ennakek, cucked and abandoned, his hateboner for irys is the only thing that remains from his days as an aloucuck
plus discordtrannies will jump on any potential holovsholo

>>43055315
just some retards trying to pit her against irys cause bigger numbers, they'll use whatever they can to put some Ls on irys

>>43055781
Mori announced it, also Mori created this idea

>>43055806
>>43055801
Yes, me saying IRyS is boring is because of her numbers. Also, I didn't understand shit that happened when I logged in to he stream, it was boring

>>43055700
they will just boost up the viewfarms kek

>>43055700
It’s funny as hell

>>43055449
It's getting sad now Ennakek. Using Mori to shit on IRyS now? You have fallen really far. IRyS is amazing and you can't dead with that.

>>43055847
>Deadbeats
Stop biting the baits.

>>43055876
becasue they were stupi
the hired 6 people at the satrt and make 2 wait until they got another 2 to debut.

>>43055867
Selen.

>>43055841

>>43055839
There was always shitflinging, but Luxiem brought way more numberless noise than anything before it.

>>43055867
Okayu

>>43055897
Rumors that he ate Nijisanji graduated "livers" follows undebunked.

>>43055867
im sure fungus and selen can weigh down the competition

>>43055827
which clip?

>>43055876
He kinda fulfills a similar character as Magni. So if you're trying to fulfill an entire gen you'd probably only want to do one at a time and Magni had by far the biggest roommate in Tempus

>>43055468
>Some of them went to Tempus. Tempus started with around 5k max viewership but they're slowly inclining to around 10k.
No they didn't
>>43055693
>Tempus inclined because of Bettel.
No they didn't either.

Here is the chart for the 30 days Holostars EN branch is NEARING their all time low, unless something very remarkable changes, they'll cross that line this week or the next.

>>43055700
Fucking hell, i'm already not watching niji, should i start, just to out of solidarity?
Maybe if they'll come for other dramafags, not going to do it for 1 fag.

>>43056032
AAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OMEGAY TASUKETE

Is there a list of all the EN karaoke streams this year. As Gura hasnt done one yet, who has had the top one?

>>43055943
Why would I care about Enna?
She is bbc conesur. And Jp's and En's have always given more of a shit about Mori. What do you mean fallen down?

>8700 peak
So who the fuck was watching Ina on a weekday during pre-primetime EU hours? NA? It's between 9 am and 2 pm over there.

>>43056096
Amelia New Year.

>>43055364
qrd?

>>43056032
KEK
go away sharts

>>43056029
and then they give one of the ugliest model in vtubing history to Magni, so were they going for numbers or not?? Its so amusing

>>43055876
They need more people anyway to be effective as a group so he debuted to the second gen to prop them up.

>>43055839
can somebody post the giftcord screenshots?
too many newfags and retards giving them yous rn

>>43056065
Jack off to Milords ASMR as a proper tribute

>>43056032
>tempiss sisters caught blatantly lying
pathetic

>>43056032
it is at their lowest because they are not collabing with the girls, so this actually perfectly represents their box

>>43056116
The same people who watch watame SC reading

>>43055693
It's just crazy to me that Holo manages to grab somebody as talented as Bettel while NijiEN, the group known for male vtubers, grabs rejects like Ren, Aster, Kyo, Hex, Ver, and Dope. Like, how does that happen?

Notice something?

>>43055926
So it really wasn't the only thing you were saying because now you are saying other thing. You are full of shit, anon. Fuck off.

>>43055847
https://youtu.be/jaXILTda9ow
This was Mori more than a year ago, and she has massively, massively improved her vocal cords and technique.
This has more soul into it than anything I have heard from IRyS

>>43055839
Pretty much. We had resident niji jp fags in here before but everything changed when niji en pandered to chinks and bilibili.

>>43055315
I think she's a workaholic double-dipping retard but I do respect her work ethic

>>43055847
Mori is a better singer than rapper.

>>43056225
less bots

>>43056116
For me it was prime time - just finished work, ate dinner and Ina started guerilla.

>>43056150
right now, this is the only thing I can offer, please print and hang in to your walls

>>43056230
Just fucking stop. I agree with you that Mori has improved a lot and her technique has come leaps and bounds. To say she is better than IRyS though is just stupid and makes you come off as a troll. Stop.

>>43056227
Anon this is my personal opinion and logic as to why she didn't get gold numbers

Bettel this Bettel that
anons, he doesnt even have 100k subs, that is beyond grim.... I am not believing in the hype nor that Niji fans have migrated to Holo

>>43056096
Enna got 19k two weeks ago
Ame I don't remember but like 23k? NYE
Mori 14k
IRYS 18-20k don't remember
Mumei 16k

>>43056266
I agree but that's like saying sandpaper is better toilet paper than steel wool.

>>43056230
Mori is not even the top five singer in EN.

>>43056032
Here are the HoloEN girls in the same period. They bounced a little back up but they're still below their October numbers

>>43055839
There was some Holo vs Holo, and hell, things were even mostly civil about NijiEN...
UNTIL THE THING.
YOU KNOW, THE THING!
THAT THING HAPPENED!
IT'S BEEN ALL OUT WAR EVER SINCE!!!

>>43056222
With their styles of content all of them, aside from Hex and probably Kyo (because fuck that guy) would unironically be better off in Tempus.

>>43056218
Night shift JOPs?

>>43056339
But she has actually. Irys isn't anything great. Moona sings better than her
Kobo sings better than her
Mumei sings better than her
Gura sings better than her
Risu sings better than her
And now I personally think even Mori does

you faggots are so bored. take a nap for later.

Touya is still streaming is this the first time he streamed this long outside of tournament related streams

>>43056433
But I want to spend my valentines with you senpai, why couldn't you notice me baka~

>>43056434
You forgot "Enna sings better than her", which is what you actually wanted to say.

>>43056387
Lamo, list them in that case

After over two years kekbeats still can't say a single good thing about Mori without shitting on other Holos. It's weird.

>>43055693
>Bettel
What a funny little guy.

>>43056491
After over two years KFPkeks still can't say a single good thing about Kiara without shitting on other Holos. It's weird.

>>43056488
Never listened to Enna and not interested. I hate Niji En more than anyone here. All i know is that Ennacucks look down on Irys and Gura

>>43056339
You just remind me the MoRyS off collab karaoke. Mori is totally mogged by irys from the first song to the last song.

After over two years Chumbuds still can't say a single good thing about Gura without shitting on other Holos. It's weird.

>>43056398
Maybe some of them but c'mon aster is dead in the water no matter where he goes. And Ren would probably get anti-ed pretty hard if he pulled his mumei shit in Tempus.

>>43056392
Why do you use peak ccv when we know that raids could easily alter it?

>>43056032
>>43056392
And here is NijiEN. Like Holostars EN, they aren't finding their floor and sinking even lower with time

>>43054819

>>43056032
peakCCVanon is it possible to sum viewers by the minute and get the max total viewers per day in a box?

>>43056537
Stop thinking about cocks anon, people might think you're gay

After over two years teakeks still can't say a single good thing about Ame.

>>43056490
Kiara, Bae, IRyS , Mumei and Gura are all better than her.

>>43056537
Rent free. Nice whataboutism, anon.

https://youtu.be/5y3xh8gs24c
To all the Irys keks. Ask your oshi to reach this level if she wants to be a vsinger

>>43056569
>HoloEN
>raids
How to show you're Nijinigger without saying it out loud

>>43056569
The main chart is using average CCV; which is not affected by the peaks (the blue line). The red line is the median of peaks, which is affected by raids and Zs, but as you can see from the chart tracks very closely the blue line most of the times.

Now that I think about it, the turn point of my personal grudge against Niji was the vent Discord leaks.
If not for it I probably never block Niji clips and Channel also probably never went to #

>>43054985
He made insensitive jokes that can be tolerated because he's a nijisanji liver.

>>43055123
>Mumeioke
Nah. Still should be decent numbers though.

>KFP exposed falseflagging as deadbeats to shit on IRyS again
Too easy.

>>43056637
Baiting doxx lmao

>>43054702
And just like that on the HoloEN wraps up cripple February.

>>43055272
If your oshi graduated would you keep watching vtubers?

>>43056637
Mori-san kakkoi

>>43056140
Ironically, that actually made me watch him (and Vesper)
Ugly models means less fujos and higher chance of being actual brotubers
That said, I've mostly stopped watching them a couple months after debut since I prefer watching dedicated Let's Play series for my "brotubing" fix

>>43055124
is this guy underage or something?
No way someone above college age could be that naive about how youtube copyright works right?

>>43056645
wait what? the reason you became a regular here was because of the discord leaks?

>>43056687
Hey, when all else fails, doxx or steer the conversation to RM and PL shit. It's the tried and true sister way.

Oh look! Doxx on catalog again! Not to mention totally organic holo vs. holo. Sisters must be fuming because of Mysta numbers

https://youtu.be/Fwc-LH8IGj8
NNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>43056597
>peakCCVanon is it possible to sum viewers by the minute and get the max total viewers per day in a box?
Yes, vrabi already does it. Go to
https://vrabi.net/labo/progress/2023-02-13
and click グループ

>>43056613
Kek
>Gura is a one pony singer
Mumei is better, I agree
>Baelz is shit most of the times. Her voice sounds like a patient with the scrotum cancer.
Irys is again shit I think
>Kiara
Kek, now you are just taking the piss anon. She genuinely sounds worse than fucking Kronii. Kiara is the worst En singer imo. Her voice makes me go bald

>>43055541
Mori’s ending was a meta, Mori as Monika thank you for watching this and supporting everyone plus Kiara raided the original premiere with KFP.

>>43056776
iryskek deflection this early uh?

>>43056758
I mean they also tried with making multiple simultaneous /#/ threads and cp

>>43055867
Suisei

>>43056012
Gura's Oozora Police JP clip

>>43056348
Well, I hope the sisters was only joking about migrated to tempus

>>43056776
It's another episode of the sisters thinking everyone will be shocked and offended by seeing that Holo roommates are cute girls
I don't know what sort of feminine delusion this is

>>43056790
>Kiara
> She genuinely sounds worse than fucking Kronii.
(you)

>>43056434
The only one there I would even think about putting above IRyS would be Risu. Even then their styles are completely different so it'd hard to say.

Gaijin singing tier

S: Risu, IRyS
A: Gura, Moona, Mumei
B: Anya, Baelz
C: Kobo, Mori, Kiara, Zeta, Reine, Ina
D: Kronii, Iofi
F: Amelia, Fauna, Ollie, Kaela

>>43056728
>brotubers
Your dream dies with (You).

>delete negative pr videos
>ramp up holo vs holo
giftcard sisters are working overtime. got your bonus Chink Li?

>>43055910
Who won by the way, IRyS or Mori

>>43056879
yeah, they started the usual catalog doxx too

>>43055468
>>43055468
Where the fuck do you even see the 10k box? Took blue homo a bday and a 7 people collab during a completely free timeslot across both HoloEN and NijiEN to see such a number.
And the gay clown seems to be around 2k viewers.
>They stole NijiEN viewers
they fucking didn't, Vox had a 49k karaoke in October and a bunch of 10-20k streams during that month just to fall into complete irrelevancy afterwards, those viewers completely disappeared.

>>43056645
unironically same. i didn't really have a negative opinion towards the branch initially. then they try to leech them on twitter and youtube chat, and say dumb shit that reads from here, makes me dislike them as a whole. funny enough ive seen people outside of here who likes nijien and dislikes holoen will say that holoen engages in the same type of talk, it just hasnt been leaked yet.

Miori got her first 1M cover btw

>>43056863
https://youtu.be/6PwKsasBlK4
Lurk more. Kiara is way worse than IRyS for me.

>>43056339
He is a troll though. I’d bet a hundred dollars a couple days ago he was making fat jokes and/or spamming doxx.

>>43053907
Kaela

>>43056817
Oh, they are using full arsenal today. Maybe lot of bans ended.

We all know Mori is the most successful HoloEn singer, but who is the second? Kiara? Irys? Bae?

>>43056866
even the MANS sisters accepted that Magni was a massive fag in the first few weeks, the only ones they consider a "brotuber" is axel

>>43056948
sisters must be lonely today and just want your attention

>>43056150
I didn't save the giftcord one, but I have these

>>43056491
>>43056537
>1 minute apart
Literally replying to himself on cooldown AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>43056939
Kronii = IRyS
You good? Or did you mistype?

>>43056865
>Anya on tier B ?
The rest are great tho.

is it reeeeeeeaaaly the sisters who dox and start holo v. holo?
you sure it isn't a bored anon trying to start shit? trust me, i know they do it, but do they do it all the time?

>>43056865
stop ranking something you don't understand, it makes you look like a retard

Salamis numbers are so grim....is she really going to turn into dust in manjisanji? How can she pull a Luna and come to holo?

>>43056916
Those viewers were Chinese you fucking retard. Hololive doesn't welcome those bugs at all.

>>43053837
EN IS BACK AT FULL FORCE

>>43056865
What are you smoking?
Irys above Moona and Mumei?
Also, Mori is way above Kiara. Also why is Kronii so low?

my cute wife

>>43056866
So does Magni treat the listener as a boy or a girl during his valentine's RPs?...

>>43057046
>wife
skank

>>43056865
>Risu
Really? I gotta check her out. I only know her rodent laugh.

>>43057016
well, those giftcord screenshot existed, so it's not like they're doing it for free

>>43057038
Tbf Kiara is a better rapper than Mori.

>>43057006
No fucking retard. Anon way mentioning Kronii and comparing her with Kiara
I responded with forget Kronii, even fucking IRyS moggs her

>>43056973
>axel
>brotuber
that dude comes off a insecure fuckboy

>>43057024
Salome can't switch corpos because of her other Niji character.

>>43056865
>Bae higher than Mori
>I’ve literally never heard a single Anya karaoke
>Mori and Reine on the same tier as Kiara/Ina
>Risu shouldn’t count because she won’t fucking sing

>>43055315
I have respect for how much she works but
>love
I like her right now. In a month I won't be able to stand her when she does something incredibly fucking stupid and responds to backlash by saying something incredibly fucking stupid. A couple months after that I will peek back in when she snaps out of her funk and actually realizes she's being incredibly fucking stupid. So it goes.

Kronii is a good VA but her singing is still very rough.

>>43057083
Hahahahaha

>>43056032
It's lower than I thought. I think other than Flayon, others hit 1k5 ccv quite often. With Better, Magi and Vesper are stable on 2k ccv.

Why are you retards arguing a subjective taste in /#/. There couldn't be more wrong place for it.

Is this bait

>>43056865
(you) just wanted to do a list to put Risu in S and throw random names in random tiers.

>>43057030
No fucking shit Sherlock, I know, which is why I pointed out how retarded the whole "Tempus stole NijiEN's fanbase" is. Sisters keep pushing this argument to shill them but it has zero fucking proof. NijiEN reclined into oblivion because the chinese sisters fucked off.

>>43057182
Objectively my oshi can hit a higher frequency than your oshi so mine is better.

>Enter /#/ for objective discussion with numbers
>Subjective singing power level discussion

Does Kronii at least have original or cover songs that compare to Kiara in terms of success?
Because I'm 100% sure if you're trying to shitpost Kiara in terms of music, you're going to lose in every way except for Gura and Mori.

A few hours til IdolENs "big star"

>>43056865
Why you retards rank Irys so highly?
Moona moggs her
Gura moggs her
Mumei moggs her

There is no reason for EU hours to have no dedicated corpotubers if Ina can get almost 9k. And no shut the fuck up about Kiara already.

>>43057235
based right?

>>43057182
Mori is objectively a better singer than IRyS. I say this a 2 year KFP.

>>43057298
Then does Irys have any orignal or cover songs that compare to Mori in terms of success?
Because I'm 100% sure if you're trying to shitpost Mori in terms of music.

>>43057122
Basically the same as where I'm at. She's been on her best behavior for months now but I don't trust her enough to not fuck it up somehow eventually

/#/bros are you ready!?
Myth's first 100k stream is coming and so am I

>>43057310
Don't NijiCN stream by these hours as well?

>>43057310
Cover refuses to acknowledge the existence of Europe, someone from the continent probably made fun of Yagoo's ping pong game.

>>43057363
Yagoo looks so much like a dad.

>>43056973
Back when I did watch them, it's not like I actually watched every stream, and they weren't obnoxious fags in them (yet)
For Magni, drawing/gimmick streams, loopstation thingy
For Vesper, first couple zatsus, zomboid/FTL, Kronii/Bae collabs
Then I got bored and realized there's no point to "brotubers" having anime models

Numbers? Please?

>>43057182
IRyS is objectively a better singer than Mori. I say this a 2 year KFP.

>>43057363
EN GOLD
>EN GOLD
EN GOLD
>EN GOLD

>>43057373
I think only Pomu. Most of them stream during CN primetime which was like 5-6 hours ago.

>>43057404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjBZzYN3aAs
2,207,784 views Premiered Feb 14, 2022

>>43057382
He is a father figure to many women In Cover

>>43057264
My oshi can beat your oshi up so mine is better.

>>43057363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyQ5fd3mBjE
For this one?! I give it 80k at best

>>43057441
Watame...

Sometimes all you need is to take a glimpse at who's supporting a cause...
>your favorite "vtuber journalist" and vshojo afficcionado

One of the funniest things (maybe saddest) is that all of those mentioned keep an eye in this thread because once in a blue moon there is a scoop in here.

Meanwhile it means you can insult them to their face, and they can't even react
>SAD!

>>43057438

Boo!

>>43057458
have some faith

So tell me, why does this thread hate Mori so much?
Did she kill your dog or perhaps mogg your favourite Vtuber?

>no streams in the next few hours
uefa-chan is too strong!

>>43057482
I wonder if EN3 debut could get over 90k.

>>43057363
>Mori debuff
>Kiara debuff

>>43057157
The only reason you think that is because of raids.
Bootleg Vesper and the mexican't are almost always 3views, until one of the other homo raid them to 4views

>>43057404

>>43057470
>Vtubing news

>>43057376
Damn you, GamesMaster.

>>43057542
>Mori
yeah
>Kiara
shit opinion

>>43057524
>Why does the numbers thread hate someone that did retarded shit that hurt her numbers and led to a recline
Gee idk

>>43057524
Or maybe because one of her fans is spamming shit right now

>>43057470
>vtuber journalist

>>43057534
The JP audience would probably still be curious enough to check out their debuts at least.

>>43057524
She’s not pregnant with my child

>>43057534
During NA hours? They'd get half of that.

>>43057552
Can it reach 1M within a month

>>43056789
Thanks. Was wondering if you had the setup to make the same plot but with max(sum()) instead of avg(max()) though. Box would be adjustable instead of being fixed too.

>>43057470
this is the same faggot that was commenting under that tranny whorecam about how japanese corpo were phasing out and it's the time of the indies now? so why does he care that he can't clickbait with anycolor now.

>>43057524
February 2022.

so which part of Ollie's tournament do you think will get the highest viewers? girls only, Stars only, or the mixed part?

>>43057363
Myth will be lucky to reach 50k. I'm dead fucking serious. The EN market reclined, no matter if you're Niji or Holo unless it's a graduation stream then no fuckers will show up.

>>43057727
Serious answer? Stars

>>43057727
I honestly think the girls only part is gonna do dismally. There is no hype from any of the participants, and the girls' fans do not seem to care either.

Did we ever get a list of the whores of hololive?

>>43057534
What I wonder is if there's going to be another overlap ban. HoloEN debuts tend to go for 7 hours (1 hour for each and 30 minutes between each), it'd be ridiculous.
The only counterpoint is that neither Myth nor Council debuted at very JP-friendly times, but still.

>>43057470
>News Channel

>>43057727
mixed because /here/ schizo are drama starved and are looking for rrats.

>>43057824
Sweden

>>43057363
not even gonna beat gura return

>>43057524
Mori is unironically the most hardworking Vtuber. In 2022, alone she released 44 songs and covers with 600 hrs of streaming time. No one in Holo takes their work more seriously. Also, Mori is actually entertaining to watch

>>43057727
is this 1 PoV? 2 PoV?

>>43057727
Probably the mixed part, but only because you can bet there are many retards not even aware of who's in it.

>>43057482
>Don't look at Mori's 1st outfit numbers or Gura's numbers in general now. You will kill yourself

>>43057788
>>43057727
they're all gonna do bad, no one trusts Ollie so they're not promoting it just in case it's a heap of shit (or she goes "off script")

>>43057848
There will be. Tempus debuts delayed like 4 HoloJP weekend streams.

>>43057727
I have no idea because I have no idea who is streaming it, is it just ollie? Is it everyone?

>>43055848 #
>>43056374 #
Both of you are right in a way. With Nijisanji going public, investors will constantly want better margins for profits. So they look to what else is around and popular and ask questions that realistically shouldn't be approached.

"Well you can see we have markets A and B covered, but we've yet to make any headway into C"
"Well hire some people from C to target that demographic" and so you end up with the hyper normie ILUNA and the ESL as fuck wave that followed after in a desperate effort to cover two widespread demos. Neither have panned out. Japs already got NijiJP and normies got Twitch and clips.

This is why the most recent audition wave for GAMERS is so e-sports focused. They now want e-sports / tournament tier players, because that iself is another demographic that Niji wants to be apart off to appease metrics that aren't realistic for EN. They want to be the best at EVERYTHING and not refine the things they already are great at. Don't be shocked if we have a "IDOL/SINGERS" wave of girls planned in the summer because fucking Sony has a branch that does it too.

>>43057937
Pretty sure it's all 1 POV on Ollie's channel.
Girls only is one stream, Homo+mixed is another

>>43057727
Mixed is at a slightly better timeslot for Westerners so probably mixed, but I think viewership for both streams will be pretty meh.
Combined with the fact that it feels like the only girl that cares about this tournament is Ollie herself, while most of the boys have it on their schedules, I don't see the Hololive only part doing too well.

>>43057470
>Any claim from anyone is bad
They want 0 accountability