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Who's the best character for the 10k damage achievement?

How good is Kronii? I like playing as her, but she seems reliant on the time stop stuff.

>>42991470
Aki skill passive build up

>>42991263
>>42991282
Was mostly thinking about the boss melting during her special, you're probably right about Mumei when the timestop is down. I'm not as sure about Irys versus the extra effective damage from Ame's instant kill chance and the dog, especially in stage 2/2 hard where enemies are more clumped + spread horizontally.

>>42991529
Kronii is for stacking stupid amounts of haste and speed, running around the field like a maniac and then dying when something touches her.

>>42991847
Her heal from Perfection kept me alive pretty well

>>42991778
It's still not even close. Ame's biggest downfall is her lack of any real reliable AoE, so even with good damage you are still going to struggle to clear S2H Halu5 enemy packs reliably. IRyS will mow down waves without issues

Is that a KARMA mechanic? How do you get it?

>>42991847
Perfection 3 heals you up pretty quickly if something goes wrong and Bubbles offer great protection while killing all the things

Stage 2 (hard) is actually kinda hard........

>>42993494
I once did it with breastplate, body pillow, horns, plushy, bandage and revive feather
YES
I am a pussy faggot
NO
I will not elaborate
gimme that gachikoi please

>>42993494
Yeah it's pretty tough, Nodoka's dangerous too.

>>42993494
Don’t go overboard on defense. The best defense is a good offense. Halu makes it easier too with all the extra levels, stickers and anvils you’ll get.

Still cant believe Sora beat stage 2 hard on her 4th or so try.

>>42993827
No the best defense is a good defense.
You stack defense and healing items on a char with some inherent healing/defense and you can't lose.

>Want to try all the holos but I keep coming back to working on the best Ina build I can manage

>>42993959
Sore has played the game a bunch, including infinite yagoo runs and some hardcore runs.
Who did she use to beat stage 2 hard?

Purple kusogaki outrunning yagoos through ult was fun. Shame that HC run in endless doesn't count for the achievement.

>>42994050
Herself, still though its literally only her and Kaela right now.

>>42993494
I tried Stage 2 Hard for the first time earlier and that's the first time a 20 minute boss ended my run. Damn.

>>42993494
It's not even the stage either, it's just that Nodoka is a fucking bulky whore.

>>42994231
I mean the stage is also hard because of how cramped it is.

>>42994231
Nodoka also isn’t nice enough to give you a bunch of easy enemies to or build bonuses off like the other end bosses, so a horns strategy has some rough time until the enemies can build up a bit.

Just took down Nodoka for the first time using Korone. Who are some of the easier other characters I could tackle her with next? She seems to be the only real barrier to gachikoi.

>>42994450
>easier
Obligatory Subaru.

>>42994450
I got through with Kiara first go on a fresh playthrough.

>>42994450
My Akai Haato melted her somehow, she died in seconds.

>>42994506
Isn't she pretty tanky? I could probably use the same item build I did with Korone.

>>42994585
My tiny cave man brain can't figure out how she's supposed to be played.

Observation on Nodoka's AI attack patterns:

Skill 1: LASER BEAM
- Aims at the player for 3 seconds, the aim speed decays within those 3 seconds. You stay still for 2 seconds and adjust yourself to dodge the laser beam.
- The aiming speed of the beam is extremely deadly at long range, so maintain at least a 200 pixel long distance away from Nodoka, 200 pixels is the whole screen.

Skill 2: Touhou Time - 1st Version
- A bunch of orbs but there are intersecting sections

Skill 2: Touhou Time - 2nd Version
- An enhanced version when Nodoka is below 40% health, all the orbs will now rotate circularly.

Skill 3: Blue Orb Attack - 1st Version
- Nodoka will fire blue orbs towards the player.

Skill 3: Blue Orb Attack - 2nd Version
- When Nodoka is at 40% health, the blue orbs multiply in number

Other stats:
- Nodoka has very high health
- Immune to "stop", "freeze", and all status effects except burning.

Conclusion:
- She's motherfucking broken, but beatable.
- You can go max weapon limit, and only use your base weapon with a tank type character like Mel or Sora.

>>42994450
Almost everyone gachikoi'd with Ame first, so Ame is pretty easy to use to beat Nodoka.

So for Choco's AOE Heal crit ;
does increasing the healing amout increase the damage?
does increasing critical chance increase the chance of the Heal crit happening?
does increasing critical damage increase the damage of the heal crit?

Time Mode observation:
- Activating Chicken Feather by intentionally dying does not count to the total elimination score of enemies, so Feather is essentially useless unless you just want nuke EXP but even that it is not worth it.
- Halu is removed entirely here
- The best stamp is the Solo Stamp since it maximizes base weapon damage.
- Shop upgrades are not reflected in Time Mode, it is standardized, the same goes for the skills, even if you have reached Gachikoi with the character it will not reflect as such and simply give you the 3 base skills.

Build tanky and Breathe in Asacoco against Nodoka. That's how I gachi'd Ayame.

I finished 12 gachikois. Only 17 more to go.
But first. I need break. My eyes hurt...

>>42994969
Yeah, she only needs to adjust her aim a little bit to laser you at a distance, standard principles of leverage. Running towards her and the angling away can be a good way to get in hits and dodge it.

>>42995411
I find getting dragonfire just for Nodoka is usually a good idea. Bonebros can work on higher haste characters.
Broken Dreams is excellent too. It can’t slow her down but those droplets hurt a bunch and she’ll eat a bunch of them when she is flying around and you are dodging. It also helps enormously on the pre-nodoka parts.

>>42995411
Breathein Asacoco has kind of been forgotten because of how great Flattening board is but I think more builds will open up to it now that Bonebros is also a good option. I belive breathin also fires more bombs with Aqua who BoneBros is great on since it gets double synergy with flat/esxtra projectiles

>>42995069
after getting the double heal item, i dont think it scales off the heal amount, the crit damage does help i think.

>>42995411
I forgot to take a screenshot, but my build with Korone just now was:

>Weapons
BL Fujoshit, Elite Cooking, random garbage (did not see a single X-Potato for Rap Dog)
>Items
Membership, Breastplate, Bandaid, Plushy, the coffee pepper thing, and an empty slot (was reserved for GWS Pill)
>Stickers
Poltato PC, Haste, Flower (Never saw Lifestealing either)

So full tank with some debuff thrown in.

>>42995818
Aqua isn’t flat, she doesn’t get the bonus. However she does get an extra flattening board.
I’m not certain her skill works at all with BoneBros, it is missing any kind of weapon label. Probably a bug.

>>42995069
>>42995884
Choco’s crit heal doesn’t account for the healing amount like Sora, it is just based off your damage and crit multipliers. It is very strong since it has its own built in multiplier.

>>42991379
cute image

In retrospective, attempting your first try of Hard stage with Suisei using Halu5 was not my brightest idea, but at least I won
Never doing this again

>>42995918
That has been fixed yesterday, Bone Bros now has the multi bullets icon, and I believe it was already working as such.

>>42994450
Fubuki jousting farms her + the entire map pretty trivially, I'm pretty sure her dodge counterattack has no/very low cooldown so you can just wiggle back and forth on top of her and every other boss during the bullet hell attacks and do a bazillion damage with passive + her special move
Build doesn't really matter, she can do main weapon only Halu runs easily as well, but full tank + plushie + piman gives her in particular a lot of leeway with her dodge buff expiring and even makes it advantageous to facetank half a horde for a bit

>Died with Kiara special buff up twice
What the fuck

Stage 1 hard or stage 2 hard for irys coin farming?

Is gura worth building for crits? I dont' think any of her abilities proc on crit even though she's got a pretty high base rate.

>>42995258
Shop elimination and reroll seem to be based of your current amounts and not standardized.
Unless they patched that.

I am speed.

How do you play Shion? I usually rush to level up at least level 5 in her weapon and then hug the garlic (which hit decently enough and at level 3 covers all the screen). From then just wiggle through collabs and use Kusogaki kick as a "oh- shit!" button. Portal is the only one skill that i really don't understand how to exploit

>>42997398
I've killed myself with the portal by accident so I'm with you there

>>42997398
Portal seems borderline worthless as an escape, especially in high difficulty/Halu maps. Best I can see is using it to escape or avoid bullet hell mechanic traps if you're lucky with the placement, but she already has a one-hit dodge so you can just run through the enemy walls anyways.
I think portal does seem to relocate the garlic to your side when you take it? So it might be useful if the dumb thing gets lost somewhere in large maps like the field

>plays aqua with solo wep trying to get lv 3 oshi
>only buys +atk and crits once i max all the items
>turns out wet passive from her weapon can stack
>broom reaches 3k crits before nodoka dies

>>42994450
Mel is piss easy with a few defensive items.

>>42996743
Stage 1. You need to be constantly retreating since you're running Halu + low damage.

>>42997398
I feel like you're better off eliminating portal until it gets changed in a future patch.

>>42997787
Yeah the wet mechanic in her broom enables it to scale indefinitely, I'm not aware of it having a maximum stack. The only thing gimping it is that the broom itself is kinda awkward to use.

>Game is supposedly about the girls charming rabid fans by hitting them in the face with their talents
If you think about it, this is basically a game about forcing your oshi to wear bandaids/buttplugs and pump herself full of sake and mystery drugs to sate the desires of the horny fans charging at her, until she gets overwhelmed and gangbanged by thousands and thousands of them
Incredibly lewd

alright, I think IRyS might be the first character busted enough when it's actually crossing into anti-fun
the best way to play it is incredibly straightforward and boring (solo weapon, stamp) and just grinding up your entire upgrade tree + shitload of G-Ranks in like 5-10 sessions of endless, depending on how stubborn you are
at least with others you tended to need a specific build but stamps WILL show up and there's few enough you'll be always maxing the important ones

>>42998075
Fauna is braindead. Like actually fucking braindead.

>>42998045
Considering where the buttplug goes it not her wearing it.

>>42997890
Well if she got to Oshi/Gachikoi rank then the portal is impossible to eliminate...
>>42998075
IRyS is supposed to be balanced by having a main weapon that does piss poor damage and relies on her stacking Crit to better it while also provide her healing, but since now we have stamps you can just slap Akukin on her and now she has the best of both worlds by hitting like a truck and unable to die.

>>42998075
It literally doesn't matter because all it nets you is gold you don't need because even non-farming runs shit out something like 20k gold on average now. The game wants you to clear every stage with everyone.

I'm literally spinning my mouse around
the zone with no EXP marks the distance nothing makes it in

>>42998405
I suppose if I were somehow turned into a ravenous zombie chasing down my oshi, I too would probably shit out a heart emoji and return to my senses if she shoved a buttplug tail into some part of me

>>42997398
The headphones are a good defensive option as they also activate her passive +60% damage. I've been having a lot of fun doing solo weapon runs (akukin, usaken, shiraken/ouru), it feels like hololive asteroids.

>>42998075
You can do the same with Ina, Fauna, Mumei, Sana, Sora, RBK, Suisei and Haachama, at the very least, most of them without aiming either. This game is not that complicated.

>>42998842
I wouldn't need to be a zombie if my oshi was the one doing it.

>>42997398
I tend to ignore garlic, the range is huge and following it wastes it's ability to grab exp for you. I try to space the portals close together and play around them because they deal damage in an aoe, never actually use them to teleport. Ult is to dodge mechanics and get out if your damage starts falling off and you can no longer play around portals.

>>42997398
How about: when teleporting, knock all enemies back.
Would that save the skill?

What a run this was. That little peashooter was a gatling at this point. If I didn't have stuff to do soon I would have seen how long I could outrun the Yagoos.

>>42998045
Matsuri skill is being ''seiso'' when she's not being ''touched''. She becomes ''unseiso'' when she gets ''touched. This is very lewd

>>42998075
>Anti-fun
Subaru is way worse, IRyS is fun. What isn't fun is grinding, and you are using her for that.

At least i know she will get buffed eventually. hope fully. m-maybe

>>42999988
Nothing will save the skill. Teleporting really doesn't have a place in a game like this for a number of reasons. It's a fun idea, but there's not really a practical way to implement it that is both useful and worth the risk of using

>Having a good run on Stage 3
>10 minute boss spawns on top of me
>I die

>>42998075
Irys is by far the best gold farmer, but it doesn't really matter because farming gold isn't a real filter anymore. Any random Holo will put up 40k+ in stage mode with a greed stamp. Stage completion is the time based obstacle to 100% and Nodoka is the only meaningful skill obstacle.

I'm fucking stupid and I want the game to be harder, but I don't wanna disable my unlocks. Kay Yu pls let us add more enemies with the upgrade or something :(

>>42998449
>IRyS is supposed to be balanced by having a main weapon that does piss poor damage
It doesn't remotely do poor damage even without stamps though, not with the damage buffs in her skills.

>>43001375
Using it as a voluntary mobility skill is impossible.
The solution would be giving her a short buff when she uses the teleport to try to force her going in and out of it constantly.

>>43001816
IRyS should have stayed horizontal only.
Ame needed the aim buff but IRyS did not.

>>43001375
There were a few moments in a Hard 2 run with her just now where I was able to use it to get out because I could tell I was getting pushed into one of the cubicles or other stage dead ends, but there were just as many moments where the two ends were right next to each other in a shit position.
Feels like she just needs buffs/tweaks in general. If she had enough offensive power (range on main weapon, damage on the portal/garlic AoE, lower cooldown on the kick) to keep the portal area clear, then she could reliably get to them and use them - I assume the game plan was for her to hide in the garlic until there was too much pressure, then portal away, but the garlic AoE caves within minutes on harder Halu stages and the portal isn't even there half the time.
Alternately if she had more functional defensive mechanisms (some invuln after her dodge, maybe taking the portal consumes it + refreshes her correction brat passive) she can risk diving into a horde to take a portal, or risk taking a portal blind.

>>43001375
Making it fully manual would save it, but would also require adding and additional keybind for that specific skill.

>>42997398
1. get shiraken stamp
2. win

Do melee characters just have to get Dragonfire on hard? It seems like I can never stay close enough for AOE weapons to deal any real damage and my health bar always goes full pink a few times in the runs that I do win.

>>43002823
Get more speed then

>>43002823
Stage 1 hard is not that difficult for it to need it, but Nodoka without it is a pain in the ass

>>43001843
>to force her going in and out of it constantly.
That's no longer a skill, it's a mini game, and forcing those onto a character aren't fun
>>43002091
The issues isn't even getting to them or using them, it's that the gameplay fundamentally keeps you locked in one area because enemies come from all sides, so the portals will be within spitting distance 90% of the time. At that point, why even bother having them.
>>43002209
I agree,if you could manually blink in the direction you are facing or something it could be useful, but with the current layout of the game that's not possible, and involuntary ports will constantly be an issue no matter how its adjusted.

I'm never getting sub 5 minutes...

>>43001843
>buff to encourage Shion to constantly explore her holes
Anon please this game is already too lewd

All the anons complaining about Mio just makes me want to use play her

>>43003493
It's more fun to play the nonfaceroll girls. For me at least.

>>43003493
My two favorite characters so far are Mumei and Mio

Sometimes you just want people who work wildly different

Does playing endless mode count as a stage clear if I defeat the stage boss and keep going?

>>43004436
No.

Reroll needs some fucking rework
Rerolling 3 of the same items isn't funny at all

>>43003267
>That's no longer a skill, it's a mini game, and forcing those onto a character aren't fun
Matsuri already has one.

>>43004597
It's reroll, not "offer me shit you haven't earlier. It's still supposed to be rng.

>>42997398
The Chestplate is good because you can still activate the damage effect during the invulnerable portion of you special. Actually makes the special quite a bit stronger.

>>43004685
Might as well call it "Shuffle" then

>>43004791
You could, it's the same thing as rerolling, just cards instead of dice.

>>43004597
>>43004791
Finish the stuff you've already bought first then, and eliminate anything you know you won't want when it shows up shrink the pool of other options. The game will keep offering you things you have that need to be leveled, if you buy the 1st level of a bunch of things and have skills still open. This is the game being nice, because the alternative of not being able to level stuff you already have because you keep getting offered random crap would be miserable.

And that's Matsuri done.
That wasn't very fun.

Is there anything more anti climatic that upgrading a character to gachikoi by finishing stage 1?

>>43004595
The difference is that you don't have to play it, it just increases the damage if you do. A better example is Fauna's old saplings that you had to run around everywhere to pick up because they aren't affected by pick up radius. People hated it because it was tedious, and often dangerous, so they changed it so saplings come to you automatically.
If Shion had to keep track of some buff and her portals, to constantly jump in and out of them to refresh the buff, she would be even more unenjoyable to play than she is now.

>>43005038
I suppose it ends up to what you need it when you need it
I was on a run where I forgot I require some survival items on the 15min mark, I already got 3 collabs with 2 items pending with 3 levels each
Leveling up surely give me the items I "needed" to get to collab quickly but that is not what I need
I can see some humor of it like Yotto but if you got a cup full of other items but got the same face every single time, it was infuriating

>>42994788
If you can do it with Korone, you can do it with anyone. Korone is one of the worst characters in the game.

Are you all trying for 100% completion, or are you only going gachikoi for your actual favorites?

>>43005409
finally getting halu 1 at 15 mins

>>43005779
Actual favorites of course. no reason if im not even going to play the others

>>43005624
Mel has something like that with her Mel Mel Cooking. You get a short 5 second buff for eating, and throw out a bunch of cooking all at once every 15 seconds of up to 5 food. You can manuever yourself to always have the buff by eating 1 of the food every 5 seconds and then leave 2 to distract enemies, or grab them for more life-drain attacks.

>>43005779
Eventually I will but Im gonna get the ones I have the most fun playing first. It just so happens Goop-Goop Garbanzo is one of them AND my Oshii

>>43005755
Are you daft? Korone has one of the absolute best kits. Built in 30% damage reduction that's doubled every 12 seconds, built in 30% increased healing as well as spawning additional small food, built in 40% haste, all on top of one of the best basic weapons in the game. She's not Mumei/Irys broken, but she's she's easily the next tier down.

>>43005779
I was going to try for my favorites but it's just too hard for me with Korone so I went for easier characters.

>>43005779
My oshi won't be in the game forever, but at least I know she'll be done right since she is Kay's oshi too, so I will wait to gachi her first.

>>43006207
You must be. Her weapon fucking sucks. Her damage sucks and "wow, she's tanky" but can still die in less than a second when swarmed on Hard Mode stages. NICE TANKINESS BRO

>>43006207
Korone was bad in the previous version and is better now. She still isnt that great and her damage is super low with a bad ult but she has better options now and is mid tier imo

>>43005779
>Nearly 30 chars
>Almost 2 hrs per gachikoi, assuming you can clear reliably
Faves only here.
60 hrs to gachikoi everyone (for now) actually isn't that bad by autistic game 100%ing standards, the problem is that Vampire Survivors gameplay isn't distinct enough to not melt my brain playing it for that long with playstyles I dislike/girls I don't really care about.
If Endless clears past 20 min counted I might consider it, it feels like it'd be more engaging to have to care about your build + actually consider dropping Halu for another tank item to hit a breakpoint for surviving Yagoos.

>>43006421
For her to be mid tier there'd have to be a lot characters worse than her. That's just not the case.

>>43005950
Yes, but again, you don't have to use it. Mel Mel cooking distracts and damages enemies with 0 interaction from the player, choosing to eat it is entirely optional. If the plates did nothing on their own, and players where forced to go around and collect them because they were the only thing that activated her juice skill, or some buff specific to the skill, there would be far more complaining about it.

Is there a list of the gold items added in the latest patch?

>>43006301
heh, literally happens to me earlier
she's good against a swarm of weaklings, but when tankier stuff comes around you'll get fucked

>>43005779
probably will 100% over the next few months while waiting for next update

>>43006598
there's no shame listening to Pat Benatar

you can always check out holocure wiki
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog

The idea of Shion gaining some sort of defensive buff after using a portal or triggering a knockback/stun could really help the skill that in its current state is almost useless except for resummon the garlic.

>>43006301
>>43006421
She is braindead easy, even on Stage 2 Hard, Halu 5, with a standard tank build. Just because you don't see huge numbers doesn't mean her damage output is bad.

>>43006207
>Built in 30% damage reduction that's doubled every 12 seconds
I haven't tried doggo in a while, but how viable is def stacking for Endless now if you go all in? Assuming multiplicative defense:
>15% shop def
>60% passive
>~20% x3: dakimakura, boobplate, pay2win
That should get you almost 85% damage reduction, effectively 90% with headphones.
Can you facetank Yagoos indefinitely like release Ina at that point with some combo of plushie/horns/bandage/full meal?

>>43006546
The portals deal damage to enemies around them, even if they gave a buff for using them (to help with accidental usage if anything) then you'd still not need to do it, they'd still be doing something.

>>43006840
You might be good at the game but Korone is not braindead easy.
You could do that with anyone else if you can do it with Korone because it is not her skills but rather yours that carried you there.

>>43006855
Not quite, defense is multiplicative, so she has 68.2% reduction constantly, and close to 80% when retribution is procced. She can tank for quite a while, but Yagoo's scale quickly, and plushie appears to be broken with damage reduction currently

>>43006207
>Built in 30% damage reduction that's doubled every 12 seconds
Her skill damage reduction is 15% doubling to 30%, not 30% to 60%.
Take note that Akai Haato has in innate always on 30% damage reduction from a skill, along with 7 healing every 2 seconds.
Dog has some tankiness but she is much more of an offensive berserker type, the Haste makes many weapons way better.

>>43007119
I can garuntee you that I can't. I've been working through just clearing stage 2 hard halu5 solo-weapon on every character, and I can give you a long list of characters who are much more difficult. Korone wipes waves easily and quickly, while taking so little damage that I didn't even drop below 50% face tanking Nodoka.

>>43005779
Favorites and fun kits

>>43007350
You were saying?

>>43007688
Oh, it was buffed? Cool. I guess I'm not on the most recent patch.
I stand by my point that she is an offensive berserker type either way though.

>>43003267
>no longer a skill, it's a mini game
Lots of characters already have them, I can't see why you would be against it.
Otherwise the gameplay is the same for every character.

>>42998946
nta
I might be full of shit but I'm pretty sure that, as much as it would make sense to, the Akukin stamp literally does nothing if you've locked all your weapon slots
At least that's what the damage numbers were indicating last time I tried that

>>43007865
Oh I wholeheartedly agree, but the point I was making is that her kit is incredibly well rounded with good offense and defense, making her easy to clear with offensive or defensive builds on any difficulty. I would easily put her as an A tier character, not overpowered like Mumei/Irys, but strong enough to handle any scenario

>>43007469
OKAY GIVE ME THE FUCKING LIST

>>43008339
I'm trying it on my game and it seems to be increasing the damage quite a bit.

>>43008516
Shit, maybe they stealth-patched it since I tried it last

>>43008369
I agree, she is very strong. A haste bonus character tends to be since it makes all your other weapons so much stronger, but then she has enormous defense boost and a weapon that benefits nearly as much as irys from the new stamp system.
Doog was strong and is now even stronger.

>>43008190
There is a difference between one that is optional and one that is forced. Fauna can ignore her savings, they come to her automatically. Mel can ignore her cooking, as it isn't the only way to trigger acerola juice. Korone's yubis are so passive you don't even have to pay attention to them. But forcing a player to use a wonky mechanic as the only way to get a buff is tedious and unfun, and is why many of them received changes in the past.

>>43008369
I strongly disagree. I can't beat stage 2 with her but I've cleared with Fauna, Ame, Miko, Suisei, Aki, Sana, Sora and Mumei. I have no doubt that I'll easily be able to clear with many other characters but with Korone I just can't.

It's entirely possible that I'm just bad at the game but if someone bad can make it through with those characters but not Korone then Korone just isn't as powerful.

How do I know what stages I completed for the fandoms?

>>43008704
Suisei is much worse than Korone. I know she got a bit of a buff this time around, especially with some free skill access and a longer range weapon, but she is massively less reliable than Korone.
I'm not certain how you're fucking up so much that you can't do stage 2 hard with a character as powerful as Korone.

>>43008967
The completed stages have a green check mark on the top right corner

>>43008967
The stage image will have green check mark in the corner.

>>43008987
But you mean to tell me I can do it with a weaker character? See how that doesn't make sense?
Korone is weak.

>>43005779
I'm going to gachikoi all the Nikisei girls for sure, after that I'll take it easy and try to get Gen 0 without burning myself out.

>>43005751
This is a hidden benefit of stuff like Full Meal and Facemask. They only have 1 level, so you fill in a slot and don't need to worry about it impacting your future rolls. All the power is upfront.

>>43009134
Yes, I am. You are clearly just playing her incorrectly. Anyone can lose if they want, except maybe Subaru.
No matter how foolproof something seems to be, there will always be a bigger fool.

>>43009354
See? You're defeating your own argument. You said she's braindead and so powerful but I am clearly capable of doing it with a character that requires more of the player based on your assessment so by that logic it shouldn't be the player.
I'd also like to point out that I beat it with the characters I listed first try. I've tried over 20 times with Korone but just cannot do it. She is THAT much worse.

>>43009588
>you said she's braindead
Not everyone you are talking to is the same person, retard. Multiple people can see you are wrong.
>I've tried over 20 times with Korone but just cannot do it.
Prove it.

>>43009588
Skill issue

>>43009953
You don't realize that this supports my argument, retard.
My point is that those other characters are so good that I don't need to be. Korone isn't.

Why does this keep happening to me?

>>43010050
It just means you're worse than braindead, that's all the is to it and it is an odd thing to brag about. You won with the others by pure luck and every action you take only makes you worse off beyond some form of divine intervention.
Congratulations on being a rare sort.

>>43010240
What it actually means is that Korone is terrible. I can consistently win with everyone else I have tried so far.

>>43010059
Just get defensive items anon

>>43010406
Proof doko?

>>43010437
It's not that, I keep fucking dying through my revive.

>>43008505
Fine, here is my running thoughts so far. Note these are specifically for solo-weapon runs
>Bad tier
Ayame - her kit is very un-synergistic, and her weapon scales poorly. Spirit Orbs from awakened weapon appear unaffected by stamps
>Ok Tier
Azki - Haste and Dodge are good if you have Daki, but taking a hit and losing stacks can be killer. Weapon is fast and Encore slaps, but Split Notes from awakened weapon appear unaffected by stamps
Suisei - Strong main weapon with 3x crits, but it's slow even with haste stacked, and procing Stellar Stellar and Block Master on some bosses (especially Nodoka) falls off hard, tanking her damage.
Ame - Strong damage but narrow trajectory demands Usaken stamp to clear waves, or a ton of kiting. Enemy projectiles also still fire during her ult
Aki - Lack of defense outside her ult makes the 16+ minutes hectic, and Aik's laser is incredibly narrow, making it very rng if it gets a good angle on packs or not. Can nuke Nodoka though
>Good Tier
Roboco - Lightning ring makes the early game easy, and strong scaling into late game. No defense outside of Battery stuns, so some kiting required
Mio - Tarot cards benefit from stamps, and a defensive kit makes her quite hardy. Need to play around her ult but otherwise clears fine
Fubuki - Speed makes for easy kiting, and playing around Friendzone/Ult makes decent clears.
Shion - Decent AoE damage from skills, and stamps can turn her basic attack into a potent shotgun. Easy to clear waves and bosses, just be careful about being overwhelmed
Sana - Damage and knockback make her fairly AFK, but if anything gets through planets, repositioning can be troublesome due to pack density
>Great Tier
Sora - Tons of healing, powerful basic attack, and ult makes bosses cake
Kiara - Powerful basic that can multi-proc stamps, good defensive tools, and free revives if needed
Fauna - Homing leaves shred enemies, Tree root keeps powerful enemies away, and you only need to move to dodge the occasional projectile
Korone - Powerful defense and offense lets her juggernaut through enemy waves, and even face tank bosses
>Overpowered Tier
Mumei
IRys

How do you even do the Couch Potato achievement? I still haven't tried, but it seems hard as fuck.

>>43010800
It isn't. You can aim with your mouse now. There are lots of character that don't even need to do that.
Just do it on stage 1.

>>43010800
Pick Fauna
Get the Sana item whenever it pops up
????
Profit

Aki is cool until you realise that the Muki fists don't get any benefit from enchantments or anvils, meaning if you depend on them to buff the damage you'll see them fall off. As an added bonus on something already strong like Broken Dreams they're pretty great.

Does it ever make sense NOT to take the limiter when you can? Who doesn't benefit from larger pickup radius?

>>43011256
...pretty much every time? Limiter's not that necessary as a slot item unless you're lazy

>>43010618
>Roboco in the same category of Shion.
I can take you serious. Roboco is by far one of the most powerfull characters. With the new buffs in this update her outscalling the enemy is even more easy now.

>>43011333
*i can't

>>43011115
Oh and if you grab the breastplate it actually makes Fauna's ult do damage

>>43011333
He is talking about 1 weapon only runs. I'd imagine Her weapon is only so-so and doesn't get the benefit of duplicated firing at awakening, so her level up lightning and batteries become the main bonus. The scaling awesomeness of Roboco is more applicable when you combo it with a really good collab or two.
I haven't tried it myself of course, but it does make sense to me.

>>43011506
Chestplate is especially good for couch potato because the downside of slower movement goes away entirely and it'll quickly kill anything that you accidentally let slip past.

>>43011256
>>43011322
Now that there is a super limiter you have even more reason not to take the normal one, since the super limiter gives +15% xp which can be worth it.

>>43011509
>1 weapon only runs
HE DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME!!!!

>>43011139
That's the case with all skills really, which is unfortunate. They scale only on your ATK value, so even the powerful ones can't keep up forever.

>>43011333
Shion is busted in one-weapon runs anon. Shiraken stamp gives her up to 10 projectiles per attack, Usaken stamp means the explosion can proc for every bolt on every hit. She's just a mini flechette launcher that shreds anything that stands in front of her. Only downside is it can only target about half the screen so you have to be careful about enemies on the other half.
>>43011509
This is pretty much spot on. Her skills are great but the don't benefit from stamps/enchantments/anvil upgrades, so they get less useful as you get to high levels. And her weapon is good, but fairly slow, so while she isn't super difficult, it isn't a cakewalk either.

How do I RBC?

>>43008701
You mean like Fubuki?

>>43014096
RBC strategy guide
https://youtu.be/Aykr7aS7OU8?t=5

>sprite silhouettes running in the background
pure retro kino
>generic character portraits filling up the splash
soulless screen clutter

Kay Yu my son, I know you're excited about getting new art assets and want to show them off, but please change it back. First thought best thought. There are other places you can show them.

>>43012673
>Shion is busted in one-weapon runs anon
Not him, and I don't disagree about her weapon damage, but if you're valuing defense for Korone (or lack thereof as you note for Aki) it's pretty difficult to consider her busted.
When I was solo weapon running stage 2 hard with her myself I had a couple runs fail ~10 min because she basically has no options on the table if you get RNG screwed and the core damage/AoE stamps don't drop. Feels like it'd make sense to have her around Ame/Aki, or move up Korone's fellow gamers who can survive well stampless and facetank stuff as well.

Personally I'd also move Mumei down at this point for the same "lack of defense outside ult" weakness dragging down some other girls, but that's just because I value being able to reliably get out of bad situations over her "not having to aim" gimmick.

>>43015456
Maybe we can have achievement to unlock home screen or something

I cannot believe a Halu 5 single weapon run with Aki is EASIER than a normal run with Korone.
Why is Korone so BAD!?

>>43016207
>Aki
>single weapon
why?

>>43016270
Why not?

>>43016462
she build around debuff?

>>43015865
>Personally I'd also move Mumei down at this point for the same "lack of defense outside ult"
That's kind of irrelevant for her, because her damage output negates the need for defense. She can clear solo-weapon without even needing the akukin stamp, and with barely moving at all due homing feathers wiping enemies almost as soon as they spawn.

>>43016585
Yes, and it's still easier than using Korone at all.

Just finished my own Aki run.
I got a little overly blessed on luck this time. An early Super Credit Card completely throws everything for a loop, especially when combined with Blacksmith's Gear.

>>43016585
Just report and ignore the trolling.

>>43016207
Anon, at this point you either just don't like Korone and are using this game as an outlet to hate on her, or you have some special breed of autism.

>>43016894
No. Korone is my favorite Holo and I WANT her to be good but she is not.

>>43008701
I'd argue the issue is less that it's forced/wonky so much that it's just zero payoff worth the effort. Having to space enemies into an invisible donut around Aqua (between her social anxiety visible ring the pickup range) is also a huge 24/7 consideration, but no one seems to be complaining about it because she gets some of if not the highest damage in the game for doing it.
Shion staying in the garlic circle, and potentially having to look for her teleporter circle every x seconds, is pretty low effort in comparison, it's just that staying in the garlic gets her surrounded and taking the portal gets her to facetank some random enemy. If the garlic meter gain was letting her shit out a Kusogakick every 10 seconds or something it'd feel a lot less bad. Hell, it probably wouldn't even be broken, since it seems like she stops shooting and goes at a DPS loss lategame during it.
>>43014732
"Just don't get hit for 5-10 secs at a time" should probably be the most ignorable mechanic in the game seeing how that's most characters try to play by default, you could definitely just go around using her mechanics purely defensively if you were lazy

Thank you >>42975455 anon who explained me even so I've asked like a retard.
With this strat a got under 5 minutes 1st try.

I'm sure this is a dogshit build but I'm still getting carried by Roboco, she's so strong

What's the fastest way to grind money?

>>43014777
t-thanks

>>43017604
Irys + greed stamp + super chatto time

>>43010618
I just went and tried a 5 halu tank-mel run and it was okay.
Kinda always dying but healing enough to never get too dead.

>>43008704
I've cleared 2H with two characters and Korone was easier for me than Mel even though I did her clear first. So according to you Mel must be diarrhea tier.

>>43010800
>Pick Ame
>Send Bubba out to collect XP while you turret behind orbiting weapons and defensive items
Also works with Mumei, but Ame's time stop makes it easier to kill bosses on top of you so you can get their boxes.

>>43008635
I would say she was on the weaker side before but now not only has she gotten buffs but more things that support her. It feels like some other characters that got buffed like Kiara Sora or Cali who werent BAD but a few tweaks did wonders for them

>>43010618
This mother fucking mark for Korone with his shitty tier lists that put Aki low because her "Basic is bad". Every fucking thread this shitter gives half assed opinions then RRRREEEEs out when everyone points out the flaws

>>43018068
I have no opinion on Mel. I haven't tried with her. I just know Korone is awful.

>>43018068
I tried Ame a few times but always die to the wave before smol ame. Sora can do it much easier and she can spam ult with piki to facetank it.

>>43016207
I see zero issues with Korone.

is stage 2 hard actually hard or am I just bad? can't get past 6 minutes

>>43011256
Limiter is one of those things that on paper sounds dumb but in practice ends up very helpful. Theres a lot of field on most levels and exp often gets left and fordces you to have manuver around to get it which means things that die at the end of the screen leave more stuff for you to have to chase down. When you do hard levels you often cant get around every crowd that forms as you try and stay alive and Limiter lets you grab straight out of the pile

>>43019226
It's certainly tougher than previous ones. The early portion can be the hardest part if you aren't a self contained chuuba like Mumei because you gotta get your build online quickly with the weapons you wanna collab, healing and other things. After that it becomes easy for a while until the boss of the level stomps your face in.

>>43005779
Favorites first, then the rest later.

>>43019226
Use someone other than Korone. It gets way easier.

>survive until 32:40
>kill a yagoo
>die
>don't get the "be defeated by a yagoo" achievement
what the fuck

>>43019226
It's actually hard. You'll have to discard some of the items and strategies that seem good on earlier stages to keep up. That's about all I can say without knowing who you're playing as at least.

>>43016721
Huh, went and tried myself a couple times with a G.21 Mumei + maxed store buffs rushing nothing but Awakened Feathers + Halu5 then offensive items I saw (and avoiding the stamp), but by ~3 minutes on stage 2 hard she's already at the "time to start running/kiting for your life because basic enemies are getting too close" point. Do you hold off on Halu or only start off bringing it up to Lv 1~3 in your runs?
The feathers are strong for sure, but it definitely doesn't seem to be "so strong she can turret/stand her ground without the stamp" levels of not needing to consider defense to me.

>>43019365
plushie

>>43005779
I refuse to roll any more on the myth banner because I don't want to oshi Mori

>>43019389
>>43019362
I'm trying with roboco

>>43019514
HOLY BASED

>>43019509
No, didn't have the plushie. Maybe it was the feather I had.

>>43019424
I'm not sure anyone can do it without plushie and healing.

>>43019518
Roboco is probably tricky in that level because she is all about ramp up, but you gotta rush right away or enemies will out pace you.
I recommend the Broken Dreams collab first, though Snow Elf Sake can be good too.

>Korone is wea-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxEg91e_IG4

And that's the last of the new characters, all of them are now Gachikoi. Now to go back and play with some of the older characters. It's a shame it didn't keep my completions of stages 1 and 2 for them, but kept stage 1 hard as finished for all of them. I guess I had started to mostly just play that one.

>>43005779
I have not touched Myth after the unlocks. I never rerolled so they're at 0 gacha and 0 fandom.

>>43019748
What's the longest people have survived on Endless Hard 2 so far anyways?

So this anon >>43019164 is a better player or have more gachikoi ranks with Korone that this one >>43016207

>>43019919
No, the other one is just a troll. Same guy as last night.

>>43019984
I haven't been on this board in months, anon. I'm not your boogieman. Korone is just bad.

>>43019919
Korone shits out damage at an insane rate and her kit lets her forego the need for a lot of defensive items. Someone who isn't as good can grab more defensive items and Korone will still shit out damage.

>>43019984
I think it's a different one. The guy last night was obsessed with Ina.

Holy shit, aiming with a mouse makes things 10x easier.

>>43020278
No, obsessed with shitposting. Just ignore him.

>>43019518
Are you stacking Halu early? Roboco should be pretty good due to the bonus XP once she gets going.

>>43020244
Is there legitimately anyone who does less damage than Korone? I can't think of anyone who does.

Hope kay-yu changes the portal on Shion. Is really the only skill that bothers me. It need at least give her a bit of dodge after use it. In the best case a stun or stat buff.

>>43020502
>walk around in circles but still pushing forward because I'm surrounded
>acidentally step on the portal directly into like 50 enemies
lovely

>>43020390
I actually ran into trouble with gaint enemy hordes late with Aqua and Choco with certain builds where the low base attack bonus came back to bite me. it was easy to fix at that point grabbing a couple attack-ups but it happened so fast it was kinda shocking. I guess I got used to other characters with built in ways to boost damage

>>43020502
Both the portal and her Ult can be death in late game. portal can put you somewhere you dont wanna be and her Ult stopping your atacks can let a massive horde build up that eats the Ult and then you. Something added to keep them safer would do wonders for Shion knockback invulnerability teleport enemies SOMETHING

>>43019226
i kept failing when I tried to do it "normally", I said fuck it and went with solo weapons run. Just got my first 2 clears with Aki and Sora back to back. Sora run was even Halu 5.
Solo weapons aren't probably as optimal as full weapons with collabs, but you're less likely to get rng screwed early on with bad weapon drops so its more consistent.

>>43020783
The special works way better when combined with Chestplate, as it can still trigger the damage to enemies during the invulnerability timing.

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1625370935669985281

>>43019748
>super glasses at the start
Fuck off.

>>43020502
The biggest issue I have with the portals is how short the timer is before a new one gets thrown out. Makes it impossible to plan out using it for escapes and I usually end up teleporting just because I wanted to stand still for a moment. The teleporting just needs to go and it should be changed to something like firing your own shots into a portal to make a different attack come out the other end or something.

>>43020858
Certain holos get way more benefit out of single weapons than others because of the akukin stamp and how their starting weapons act.

>>43021180
>Super Gorilla Paw
Still pretty good for a holo. That's the best Mumei run I've seen.

>>43020959
Noted. I wonder how many dodge abilities might also trigger it like Gura or Fubs now

>>43019226
I did it with Aqua first try when the new update dropped. Just get some feathers to pad any surprise damage

>>43021180
mumei... I kneel...

>>43018068
I just tried out Mel. Keep in mind this is my first time using her... I feel like she's pretty good. Damage wasn't great but she's just unkillable. Way better tank than Korone. I straight up face tanked the boss and honestly was able to take my hands completely off the keyboard when she stood still.

>>43020858
>>43021238
I think the gachikois ranking help you a lot. Having the toolkit at start save you rerolls or pass of a weapon. I bet with the last oshi level it would be significantly easier.

Orange woman good, going through her stages with solo wep. I recommend orange woman for solo runs cause her sword is satisfying. Golden chicken feathers are cool but hard to activate on easier levels. I didn't like the anvil build as much as I thought I would because it burns through coins fast. Picked up pacifist and lvl 100 achievements too.

>>43010618
Where's Meru?

>>43021180
>picking supacha in a speedrun
Based coin addicted owl

for some reason the boss in 20 minutes mark dissappeared (didn't even trigger the sound effect nor leaving a box) and I kept going until the yagoo part.

not sure what happened (stage 1)

I beat Nodoka on my third attempt, but it was with a tank build and it feels like I didn't earn it.

>>43021637
Speaking of that, the stun stamp on Kiara is fucking busted. No joke, you can max out the stun stamp on her, run into a horde and come out unscathed 90% of the time. It's disgusting.

Only 15 gachikois left for me to do.
Maybe if I do 5 a day, I can probably finish them in 3 days.

>>43021637
Credit Card + Blacksmith's Gear is going to be overkill on a solo weapon run, you don't need that many anvils. The blacksmith's gear alone is the better play, gives you effectively as many anvils and makes them quite a bit more effective when enhancing too. Frees up an entire item slot for other stuff.

>>43021843
Tank builds can be tricky too because you can end up losing a damage race against her before the other enemies start turning up. I find a more offensively oriented one less frustrating because of that.

Any good afk Fauna builds?

>>42991379
How long until Nakiri pick this up?

>>43022680
Who?

Remember, if you want the Just RNG achievement (fail a +1 to +2) you need to refund your "enchantment rate up" upgrade in the shop or it's literally impossible.
Don't be a retard like me.

>>43023641
It's good that you are paying it forward anon.

1 weapon Irys really is easy. I could've ended it earlier but I was close to 100 crit so I hung around a bit to grab that last percents to finish out that achievement.
And I didn't update to the new patch, so IRyS doesn't have the weapon range and min delay nerf.

>>43019748
Is this a good loadout or was he carried by the 2 supers? There's almost no overlap between his items and what I would aim for.

How are you all having so much trouble with Shion
is this an endless issue?

>>43024547
Her portals are awkward and almost guaranteed to teleport you into a mass of enemies at least once or twice a stage.

Collar pretty much negates a lot of the drawbacks. I don't know if it'll get nerfed next round or it's balanced by the fact that it occupies an item slot and doesn't do anything else besides negating drawbacks when fully leveled. I imagine if they want to keep the same end bonus while reducing its effectiveness, they might move it up to level five and reduce drawbacks by 20% instead of 33%.
Stamps were: Ouro, Stop, and Empty Weapon Slot buff with a Gachikoi Fauna.

>>43023641
When I got that achievement the very next anvil failed the exact same upgrade.

Does 10k damage in one attack mean to one target and not counting AoE? I'm 90% sure my stupid Bae run that was hitting >2k on individual targets managed to get 10k+ on at least some individual flattening board hits. If it's really 10k to one target (or it's bugged, or I was obscenely unlucky) then this is pretty bullshit since I think only Aki can do it.

>>43025263
>I think only Aki can do it.
Many characters with a crit build, and soda can are capable of doing the same. I think the second best option is Calli with the buff of her special.

>>43025386
Yeah but even then that's not going to be 10k to one target, I'm 90% certain individual bae flattening boards hit for over 10k total in my run. That was with every damage multiplier (soda, gorilla, and mask), 100% crit, and a lot of attack level ups. Currently trying a run with Calli and only her scythe.

>>43010618
Ayame is definitely not bad.
If I weren't so bad at fighting Nodoka this would have been a lot faster. I just run away from all her bullet spam because I can't dodge and Ayame can't always facetank all of that. When her special is up (because I had haste and lifesteal stamps) and when I am invincible I can but that's it.

i love red numbers what are the best bae builds this update

>>43025649
I have to run like a bitch when I fight her because I don't play bullet hell. All that stuff on screen overloads my boomer brain.

>>43024766
Corollary to your reminder:
After you get the achievement, remember to turn the Enhancement upgrade back on.

Don't get +1 projectile for Bone Bros. It fucks up the continuous fire. I can't even tell if it's doing more damage.

>>43025582
Well I stand corrected, Calli's scythe can easily hit 11k+ even at the ten minute mark (or earlier with good luck). Doing the damage benchmark achievement on the crit character is surprisingly difficult. That was a waste of time with Bae.

>>43025858
>red numbers
may I suggest you a Comet?

So tonight I cleared the stage with many characters, some even with just their main weapon. The only ones I failed with were Mio and Korone. I came very close with Mio but I die often with Korone.

I feel like you guys clearing with Korone must be god gamers. I need tips.

Korone is really strong, this was nearly as easy as Irys and eventually followed a similar pattern: Run back and forth knocking enemy hordes around and out.

>>43026303
>>43026290

I wonder what Stage 3 Hard will be like.

>>43026290
I posted the build I cleared with on Korone earlier. >>42995900 It's not really ideal, the main thing I would change is to get Dragonfire instead of Fujoshi so you can back off but still damage Nodoka. The GWS Pill I was trying to get the whole time probably wouldn't have contributed much either.

oh lord im cumming

>>43024746
It's not bad, costs you an item slot and it doesn't affect items that buff enemies like Halu.

>>43021776
She's a bird, she can't resist the shinies

I wonder what the plan with stamps will be later on. Currently, they overwhelmingly favor specific main weapon traits (multi-projectile, multihit, hits in a wide area, no hit limit.), so you're kinda screwed if you're not part of the club, and you get insane benefits if you get at least two of those.

>>43024746
It has the unwritten drawback of needing to appear early to be effective. Assembling a line up of items with steep drawbacks before you have Collar is a pretty big risk and there's not much overlap between a Collar line up and a regular line up so if the Collar shows up toward the middle of the game you will have probably removed some of the things you'd want to use it with. I've played with it once and it was pretty good, but I got a super item which kind of wasted some of the Collar's value.

>get stuck on a 1 pixel wide wall in Stage 2 hard
>get stuck on a piece of level geometry
this annoys me more than it should

>>43029212
Pekora will be able to hop through obstacles as a rabbit on her passive.

>>42991379
What applies life-steal aside from Mel's own skills and Eldritch Horror? I assume the horns don't. So Eldritch Horror, Uber Sheep and Plush to be immortal/tanky?

>>43030184
Oh and spam bats because of ls effects

>>43030184
Horns is life-steal. There's also a sticker that adds an additional lifesteal proc.

>>43030300
Damn ok nice

Does anyone know if and how Okayu's Yummy skill interacts with the Uber Sheep item?

>>42991379
Does Subaru suck or do I just suck? Her baseball seems weak for a solo weapon build

>>42993494
Did it first try with Mel having Uber Sheep and Nurse Horns, makes you fucking immortal.

>>43030807
Her kit is kinda busted except for the baseball, which is really shit and has horrendous synergy with the stamp system.

>>43028204
Need stamps for single-hit melee weapons, don't know if he has something for those coded specifically, but I guess he could just make some stamps effective only within x~y Px of the player.
Should probably lean more into letting them become tankier via better debuffs on enemies/healing instead of just damage racing the projectiles though, so they can have a somewhat distinct playstyle with getting up close and personal with the boss.

>>42994969
>She's motherfucking broken, but beatable.
First time I died to not expecting her laser, second time to not expecting the absolute cloud of balls she would throw out. Third time though she was extremely doable despite me brainfarting my way into my worst build of the three.
You just need to learn when to maintain what distance (close against laser, far against tohou tuesday) and not have a bad speed stat. Probably a bit of healing/mitigation as well to help if you get hit by a few stray balls.

>>43019243
Character-wise, it's useful for slow girls and is a force multiplier for characters with a 2nd body (Bubba, garlic). It's not so useful for speedy ones or ones that can just plow through enemies.

>>43021843
good work

which third stamp is best for irys coin grinding, shiraken or haste?

>halu = too difficult
>no halu = too braindead easy
being mediocre sucks

>>43033185
I'm pretty sure those are 2 and 3, but haste over Shiraken.

>>43033938
I run Greed and Solo for the first two.

Huh, didn't expect to be having so much trouble with mainhand-only stage 2 hard halu on Aqua
Figured she'd be able to go mostly glass cannon but the mop DPS is actually kind of shitty, even with the solo stamp + shackles/syringe/face mask it can't one-shot mobs by 5-6 min in
...Sololive is a remarkably subpar survivability/damage skill in high-pressure situations, despite its name implying the exact opposite

>>43025950
I gave Ayame a try and she's not bad if you don't build her too defense heavy. Risky strat but her AT field works quite well to let you rush in and pop her special on bosses.
I'm thinking of trying again but switching out asacoco and shackles for a different damage increase and idol costume since most of the time spent on Nodoka was waiting for Ayame's special to refresh. How well was piki piman working for that?

>>43025649
Boy I went main weapon + collab run with Ayame in stage 1, and she can't even stay fucking stationary and live unlike every other character, even with 400 HP she still managed to die in a don't move run with lots of defense items

>>43034141
That's what Sololive for her literally mean tho? She's stronger when alone (50% ATK) and she runs away when people are entering her safe space (50% SPD).

>>43034295
>>43035243
Well anon, you saw what he said, Ayame doesn't work if you build her defense heavy.

>>43025263
I randomly got it while screwing around with Korone and not even heavily building damage. I am convinced it counts a single "Cast" of a weapon for the achivement

>>43026272
>Not running soda for even more red number
Bro, did you even try?

>>43034295
Did a second attempt and surprisingly... Switching out asacoco and shackles for mask and idol costume saved me only four seconds. The rest of the run though went by way smoother with more access to special though. Solo stamp came in after the 10min mark and both mid-bosses were already defeated by that point. Haste stamp came at the very end with the staff wave. Last stamp was bomb stamp which actually came first around the 7-8 min mark.
Paying closer attention, AT field gives you stupid levels of survivability as long as you aren't terrible at weaving between waves when it's on cd.