/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She'll be there by the time you faggots read this

Hololive Official is the best girl.

Will Mori beat Korone?

>>4277082
Who?

I looked it up, Mori will beat Pekora and Korone in time, since her rate of sub growth is faster than both of them

>>4277197
kys

what about non-holos who have more than 1m

>>4277111
Will Pekora beat Korone?

>>4277058
Why do you idiots get so wrapped up in this kind of shit?

>>4277222
Sadly yes, hopefully she gets deported for substance abuse before that
but oh well...

>>4277266
There's just the one now, but OP just says they have to have reached 1 million, not stayed there

>>4277277
Mori has a faster sub growth than Pekora, and Pekora is has a faster one than Korone. So yes.

>>4277320
It's basically the Forbes Rich List/Football Coefficient Table. Except with Anime girls.

>>4277058
How the fuck does Gura still get 10k subs every 2-3 days

Will Haachama return to us after tomorrow's concert?

Mori's growth might slow down before getting past Pekora/Korone though, especially since she'll be gone for the next week.

>>4277320
Numberfags be numberfagging, what else is new

Mr Koro is my husband

Korone is my favorite. Doggo always makes me laugh

>>4277058
Same-chan, you can stop climbing once in a while, right?

>Hi, Gura here. If I climb high enough in subs, will I end up at the bottom of the list again? I feel so bad. The world is round, correct?

>>4277197
>orange
>respawns when killed
>dies messily
Kiara should be the Kenny of EN.

>>4277058
EN is going to be the first Gen where all its members has hit one million

>>4277836
Flare...

I'm sorry, but did Kiara already lose? Oh, that's right. The race isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only halfway. Does not having the lead at halfway count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this post when the race is still on? Kiara is still streaming right now and she has been the best chuuba in HoloMyth for how many months now? She's racing one of the worst Holos in Myth who just happen to have a lead because she's feeding off the hype of her birthday. But you know what? She still fucking sucks. Kiara is one of the best fucking Holos in Cover, she was at 700k last year and would of won the 1M if Pekora didn't choke. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded posts like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Kiara gets to 2M and someone searches this topic. Oh look at that, Ina just fell asleep again and missed her collab when she needed that one, just like Shion. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a post on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Kiara posts because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like her because she's good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking girls on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your posts now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a post like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

>>4277111
Going by that growth it's only a matter of time.

>>4277058
Miko is an interesting case. Her sub growth has slowed quite a bit and it looks like she may have topped out in sub growth. Yet she does better in viewership than everybody on that list below Aqua (even some above since she typically does better than Fubuki and Korone as well).

RBC...

>>4277782
Mind blown

My oshi, Hololive Official, is so popular!

>>4277058
A-chan channel is my favorite jp channel.

>>4277553
The shark can only nerf herself so much.

>>4277058
1 Million Club

1. Gura (Oct 22, 2020)
2. Korone (Nov 1, 2020)
3. Fubuki (Nov 5, 2020)
4. Pekora (Dec 4, 2020)
5. Aqua (Jan 13, 2021)
6. Marine (Jan 18, 2021)
7. Mori (Jan 25, 2021)
8. Haachama (Feb 10, 2021)
9. Amelia (Feb 11, 2021)
10. Coco (Feb 17, 2021)
11. Rushia (Mar 2, 2021)
12. Noel (Apr 12, 2021)
13. Okayu (Apr 17, 2021)
14. Miko (Apr 30, 2021)
15. Ina (May 27, 2021)

Upcoming (over 900k):
16. Kiara
17. Matsuri
18. Suisei
19. Subaru
20. Ayame
21. Watame


2 Million Club

1. Gura (Jan 18, 2021)

>>4277692
>the world is round, correct?
That’s where you’re wrong, fish

>>4277374
bots

Sorted by views

KORONE

>>4277058
Only Holos?
Cruel way to directly exclude AI fans.

>>4278337
Kanata strong?

>>277058
>Ina's monthly growth rate will be somewhere around 50k~70k
>might actually outrank 35 next month
>has a chance to even pass Red Heart given her growth rate
How does she do it?

>>4277058
>Ina's monthly growth rate will be somewhere around 50k~70k
>might actually outrank 35 next month
>has a chance to even pass Red Heart given her growth rate
How does she do it?

>Lamento

>>4278552
I love how she just acts like a normal girl instead of an entertainer. Also her art is amazing, she has great taste in anime, and she's cute

>>4278204
I heard that she's getting subs from parents who think she's baby shark character. Is there any evidence to this ridiculous claim?

>>4277058
The funny thing that just occurred to me while looking at this is that the next Holo to hit 2 million will most likely be Mori, not Korone or Pekora. EN is too powerful and Cover should move their offices to the USA and dump their japanese talent to focus on EN.

>>4277058
Hololive official is the best girl

>>4277374
momentum is a helluva thing.
It's slowed down but still going.

>>4279078
I feel bad that Korone got the 1M achievement stolen from her, but there's always a bigger fish.

>>4278337
TICK-TOCK MINATWAT AQUASHIT

>>4278337
If Gura starts releasing songs you know they are going to get millions of views and she will rocket ahead of Pekora for total views as well.

>>4278258
>bots
>cope
4 letters coinkidence?! I thunk not!

>>4277884
Holy autism, Batman!

>>4277320
If it wasn't a cold competition, they would hide the subs and not celebrate when they hit high numbers. They even receive gifts when they're popular enough, like 3D debuts, songs and even start appearing in new outfits. It is a clear competition

>>4279236
Gura actually gets more views per vod than Pekora. So what did that list show? It shows that Pekora streams more often than Gura to have more total views. Gura is still higher in average live views as well, but that likely won’t last.

>>4279549
There numbers = dollars, even by advertising standards.

Next I line for 1m (@900k):
Matsuri
Kiara
Suisei
Subaru
Watame

>>4280089
There are much more people who rewatch MVs than VODs. Gura has a chance to get ahead of Pekora's view count depending on how popular her songs would be.

>>4277782
>Destroys everything around her when respawns

>>4280544
Pekora does Japanese streams. So basically almost all of her simps are form the same time belt. Gura has very shitty hours. Europe suffers a lot. Of coarse the attendance per stream will be higher, since Gura collected subscribers from all over the world.

>>4277320
I like to pick on the orange woman and her retarded cult

>>4277082
i'm watinig she celebrates to unsub

>>4277861
good copypasta material

>>4278223

whats terrifying is she'll probably double up the next hololive in membership sometime in August... BEFORE a year has past since debut. heck, she'll probably pass 3m with only Pekora and Korone over 1.5mil.

>>4281447
Not without precedent, though the numbers involved are higher.

>>4279078
Cringe.

>>4278337
total views is a bad metric due to the Holocaust.

>>4279078

Okayu x Ina collab when?

>>4279078
Sony...

>>4279078
Why are americans so entitled?

>>4281119
Gura's hours are Primetime in the America's and morning Japan. Europe is a meme, and produces far lower numbers for Ina and Kiara.

>>4279153
>Stolen

>>4281716
When you are the best, you get to make demands.

>>4281529
Holocaust isn't as big a factor as you would think. It would still increase their total views if all those videos were still around obviously, but most of the videos still set to private are old videos that didn't have a lot of views from the early days of Hololive.

>>4281894
This
The world revolves around the USA. Cover would be smart to move over to the USA and focus on EN.

>>4278337
Jesus fucking Christ

Gura is catching up to Senpais who started streaming at least 1 year ahead of her, and she also doesn't have short videos/skits and MVs to pad out the views.

Imagine if the Sorairo Days and Ai Kotoba III covers were on her channel instead

>>4281119
This cope again, there's 1.5 times as many people in Eastern Time US and Canada alone as there are in Japan

>>4282025
Yeah, Gura is a beast. Gura has 20 VODS that are over 1 million views while Pekora only has 7 for comparison.

If Gura starts putting out songs it's over. They will get millions upon millions of views.

>>4277884
My favorite pasta.

>>4282025
All she has to do is release fully produced covers of her city pop songs and she'd be set for the first two months.

>>4282100
She even has Calliope Mori beat who pumps out MVs like crazy yikes

Pekora - 7 videos with >1m views - 2 of which are MVs/skits/shorts
Marine - 13 - 10 MVs
Fubuki - 8 -7 MVs
Coco - 2 -1 skit
Korone - 9 -6 MVs/Skits
Aqua - 10 -8 MVs

This shark bitch is beating her senpais just by playing games and acting retarded

>>4282758
acting?

>>4282758
Who's acting, anon?

>>4282758

>>4281979
Just a reminder that a US-based vtuber company would turn out something like Vshojo.
That would be the result of relocating Cover to the states.

Why does the algorythm loves Gura SO much? Does anyone has any explaination?

Matsuri is God, ok?

Imagine if she spoke fluent Japanese.

>>4281447
I wasn’t surprised by Gura’s initial growth (cornered a new market, “A” meme, successful past, cute design etc) but I am surprised she keeps growing. I really thought she’d taper off around 1.5 mil, and here she is close to doubling that. What’s her secret?

>>4277390
but unlike members like pekora or even gura, she could just involve in another song project in the near future and she would be back into relevance again.

>imagine if she spoke fluent english

>>4278364
>>4279549
reality of the entertainment industry. big numbers means more investors and business partners who will want to make deals with you, which means more money generated.

>>4283581
She's really good at playing cunny. Also dum shark makes for big funny: https://youtu.be/54ysrFu09hA?t=2952

>>4283481
>Imagine if she spoke fluent English

>>4283438
cute design, attractable to younger and mainstream audience, a walking meme from the get-go, etc

>>4283581
>What’s Gura’s secret?
1. Her voice (not too high pitch)
2. Her singing (does very well when comparing her to others Holos when both clips are unfiltered music)
3. Plays her own instrument
4. Is decently entertaining. Doesn’t get too boring. Her stupidity is cute.
5. People are hoping she uploads songs or raps in the future. So hope for improvements.
6. Cute design

>>4283581
Everyone's waiting for her to start dropping meme songs aka her actual forte.

>>4283935
Problem is Gura and really all the HoloEN girls are successful beyond all expectation. They can put in minimal effort, be cute and coast for literally years and still make six figures. Some of them have more internal drive than others obviously but Gura and Mori are basically on opposite ends of that spectrum.

>>4284073
Just a random thought - people talk about how Cover assumed Mori and Kiara would be the breakout stars of HoloEN, but that begs the question - what were their expectations for the trinity? And what did they feel when Ina, Ame and Gura became the most popular ones?

>>4277082
As soon as she pulls it up on stream I'm unsubbing for good.

>>4277266
It's literally just Aichan and formerly >>4277334 even Kuzuha hasn't reached it yet I guess technically Pink cat but it doesn't show up for some reason

>>4283581
A short but hard to accept answer: people genuinely like her.

>>4284566
Some sites don't put Nyanners because she repurposed her old account with already 500k+ subs

Including repurposed old accounts in Vtuber subs lists have been heavily debated since 96neko became one.

>>4284566
Probably because Pink Cat's youtube is basically just a dumping ground for clips. She is mainly on twitch.

>>4284203
Most Idol groups need relatively average or non overlapping supporting idols to make main stars shine.
That was probably the role of trinity.
The expectation was low for EN anyway so I guess they were shocked and didn’t know how to proceed from that point as has been seen over the last couple months.

can you faggots feel the SEETHE oozing through kfp?
I can fucking taste the salt, lads

>>4278141
I can taste your tears from here, kfp.

>>4284203
Ame and Ina aren't more popular than Mori.

>>4277782
then who's the Cartman?

>>4285328
Clearly Gura
https://youtu.be/gqJbFoZ3L3g

Based retard shark

>>4285328
Ame.

>>4277884
Need an edit of this

>>4282050
Yeah sure. All of them must be watching this American dubbed anime character. Weebshits are looked down in the west while in nip it is nowhere close to that level.
> cringe
> losers
> overly sexualized
> pedophiles
Etc.
That population excuse is just stupid.

>>4284203
calli's a proven music artist. kiara imo is the closest you can get to a typical holo experience. since cover during that time wasn't expecting much about holoen, they thought calli and kiara would be the ones to lead in popularity.

Gura's case is almost depressing
it's not that people in their chat don't recognize JPs
but a lot of them don't even recognize genmates outside of Ame (and even then you have folks who don't)
a significant portion of people is just around for 'roommate 2.0' or 'most popular current vtuber', which doesn't really translate into success/popularity for rest of Hololive - which makes one wonder if Cover will think twice before hiring someone that had a massive current following already

feels like setting themselves up for a situation where a particularly breakout talent doesn't feels all that tied to the corp and just breaks out during a bigger mess-up on their side, which would be terrible for PR

>>4284203
>people talk about how Cover assumed Mori and Kiara would be the breakout stars of HoloEN
I dont think they assume or plan anything like that. They scout/cast a good variety of streamers/personalties for every generation to cover more diverse tastes of their viewers.

>>4286395
She has 10k new people join in every 2-3 days.
How about giving them more time to get around?
Plenty people have claimed in here, Twitter, and YouTube, that they started to watch other hololive members through Gura anyway.

>>4283438
Pedobait.

>>4286395
Just having "the most popular vtuber in the world" is enough of a bran chaser for investors and random new viewers. Since Gura is the most high profile, high profile people will feel safer talking about there interest into vtubers through Gura, and maybe it is only a small number but some of the people watching the normie creator mentioning Gura will check out hololive and explore elsewhere.

>>4277058
Chestnut Kawai

Daily reminder that she wasted her previous popularity without doing anything to boost her brand. She will likely do it this time as well. Get ready to have her lose popularity like Kizuna Ai and get mogged by others in a few years.

>>4286932
who?

>>4277334
RIP Luna. I miss the random calls she'd make on LINE or whatever.

>>4279078
It would also mean better games for everyone.

>>4286932
Her existence alone is a big boost for the brand.
She redirects her fans to big hololive events or just genmate streams all the time. She chose to perform hololive songs of her genmates and senpaitachi in her 2M stream.
Why do you lie ?

>>4286395

>>4277082
TIME TO UNSUB

>>4286385
Most Holos were successful before Hololive, that’s how they got the job, Kiara was a proven failure so enjoy your dead rrat.

>>4287402

>>4283581
She literally panders to everyone. She sang songs in English, Japanese, French and Indonesian. there are Russian and Korean bros in her chat once in a while and there's clips of them in those languages too. Not to mention, Aiko had been clipping her in spanish. She's a worldwide vtuber.

>>4277374
Niggers who want sum loli shark meat.

>>4279060
Gotta ask the zhangs, they're the ones doin' it.

>>4277082
I just unsubbed. She's currently at 992K.

>>4281832
Japan? You mean the country where people barely knows English? If you want an example of good hours - Ina. Disproportionally high viewership.

>>4286395
before gura the average hololive was around 300k. only a few outliers were doing better then that (Korone was very close to 1mil).

Inside of a month of gura's release when she hit 1mil, you could see the sub count to the rest of hololive skyrocketting, by the time she hit 2mil, the average hololive sub count was around 650k. that's more then double what it was before she showed up. Currently we're about to see every single english member of their first gen cross 1mil, and we have half a dozen japanese holos over a mil, with more to come soon. here https://trackholo.live/en/

thats where the numbers come from, see little gura there, look at the bump everyone got after she debuted. even korone saw a jump in subs, and she's been around for years. Look at how fast the growth went for even long timers who had seen little growth in a long time.

She's dragging everyone in the company up in her wake.

>>4292070
Seeing that chart, if Gura stopped growing completely right now it'd take years for any holo to catch up to her.

>>4292203
yep, she's basically lapping the field right now. it's almost sureal. I mean it made more sense in october when she was just about to pass korone and fubuki, and two other en were kissing 400-500k, it was amazing but it wasn't mind blowing yet. her crossing 2mil didn't really register, i mean it was impressive but there were a bunch who were just crossing 1 mil at that time, and it was only a couple of months. now that she's about to pass Kizuna Ai, and cross 3mil, and probably by her 1year anniversary be double the subs of the no.2 in hololive (likely mori unless she falls off a bit, then it would probably be pekora by that time) it's starting to sink in just how stupid crazy her growth is.

furthermore she's yet to release a song, or do any special anything... except for her occasional unarchived karaoke's (check out her channel, she has exactly 1 karaoke on it, for 2m subs, yet it's her singing which I think is driving her growth more then anything else)

>>4292339
she has cover songs, which other people have posted to YouTube which beat 2mil views not affiliated with her channel. I mean surreal when you think about how her most marketable feature, her singing is the one thing NOT on her channel excepting for 1 video.

Someone has dropped the ball big time on that one.

>>4292411
Western music industry and japanese red tape basically.

>>4283438
She is easy to get into, anybody can join her stream at any point and enjoy it

>>4292339
and as a sidenote, Mori, Pekora and even Korone's growths have been mind-blowing if you cut Gura out of this. I doubt anyone would have thought a year ago anyone on hololive would pass Fubuki.

Hell take those outliers out of this, if you had told Yagoo a year ago that he'd have a dozen holos over 1mil subs and every single member of the English branch over 1mil he'd of been jumping out of his chair ecstatic. a year ago he didn't have a single holo over 1mil. I mean though Ina and Kiara lag behind the rest of the class they're both doing obscenely well too. as are Marine, Coco and a number of other girls.

It's easy to play a numbers game with certain girls, and I'm sure Kiara is fuming at being last to 1mil out of the en branch, (I don't particularly like her), But her numbers are still outrageously good, and probably well beyond anyone's expectations when everyone debuted in September. there are a lot of holos who should be ecstatic right now (yes even Kiara).

and looking at those inflated numbers you can't deny the trickledown effect gura has on the rest of the members of hololive. she's basically serving as the gateway for a shit ton of new subs for a lot of those girls.

>>4277390
>especially since she'll be gone for the next week
She is back next Thursday.

>>4277058
These Holo en 1 girls have set insanely high standards for holo en 2

>>4292339
>>4292643
What do you think carries her hard? Her past life? Her cutesy voice? You're right she doesn't really have anything special on her channel. Like what reels people in? I've noticed in the Nene threads people post clips of Nene's silly English duolingo stream and claim thats what got them hooked to her. Alongside her silly English she has a funny voice, has fun by putting tons of shit on stream and has the husband meme. What does Gura have?

>>4292904
Her personality and charisma are something no other vtuber can replace because everyone is different in one way or another.
Here is what I see in her.
Being genuine makes her more likable. She is popular globally because she is very easy to watch and understand.
She is a young adult with a lot of insecurities, which make her relatable to a lot of people.
She doesn’t whine about hard times herself and tries her best to make everyone hanging out with her have a good time. That is her goal she since the beginning and she stays true to it.
She is dumb af but it helps people understand her thought-process easier.

As an entertainer, because of her scattered brain she has autistic moments, sassy moment, quick witted moments, emotional moments, funny moments out of nowhere so her streams are not really monotonous. People can be hooked by watching just one or two streams of their beloved games.
Also because of numerous clipfags, people can come across her singing, previous career fairly easy and get attached to her after that, hitting the final nail in the coffin.

>>4277058
One of these things is not like the others.
One of these things just doesn't belong.

>>4277058
chimken...

>>4295929
Hololive Official?

>>4296324
Gura
>>4278337
Even with over double the subs of Aqua she has fewer views.
Her views are also only very slightly above Cali who has around half her subs.
Clearly she was botted to 1 million and only got a viewership due to people talking about her reaching 1 million so fast and having so many subs.
If you told me she paid for her subs I honestly wouldn't find it hard to believe you.

>>4277058
at least separate western globohomo garbage from japanese ones.

>>4296566
What are you gonna do?
Cry more?
Rumao

>>4292643
I bet FBK is relieved that she's no longer the "face" if HL.

>>4296566
Is this alternative way to say "i cried a lot"?

>>4296441
Not sure if retarded or troll, so I'm going to bite

Almost all of those above Gura have a year's worth of streams more than hers

The fact that she caught up to them despite only having gaming streams and 8 months worth of streaming is already amazing

>>4296441
Not sure if you are trolling or just being retarded.
If the latter please learn to analyze the table.
Aqua has been active since 2018. That is her total views after 2.5 years versus fish’s 8 months.
What kind of copium are you smoking?

>>4286265
Anime is absolutely normie as fuck these days, how can you still be in denial about that?

>>4286265
Anime is actually so fucking normalfag I just discussed attack on titan with my 40year old coworker that doesn't even watch western cartoons.

What were the numbers for the from1st concert?

>>4286395
>which makes one wonder if Cover will think twice
Why? Go back to nip expectations and the similarities in the idol/chuuba industries. Agencies regularly survive with just one standout talent, paying for the rest. Its practically the norm. And while Gura is a standout, it’s not like her genmates and senpai are slouches. Transfer Mel and Aki with their numbers to 774 and they automatically compete with Patra and Haneru for top dogs. Pekora, Marine, Mori, Miko, Aqua, even FBK won’t be mogged by the shark

>>4281894
>>4279078
He says this as he finishes stuffing his crack ass mutt face with the third McFatass Bacon Cheeseburger deluxe combo while washing it down with his 60oz mtn dew.

>>4296691
if you really think FBK isn't still the face then you're retarded

>>4296737
>>4296817
Not sure if you are trolling or just being retarded.
She has so few views that the amount of subs she has proportional to her views makes no sense.
If you assume some kind of correlation between the number of views and the number of subs (which there should always be unless you're saying people sub without actually viewing the content, in which case they're basically a bot sub), then Gura should have more views overall.
Her viewer/subscriber ratio is far too low which makes it very likely that a large portion of her subscribers are botted subs and not legitimate.

>>4297526
>She has so few views that the amount of subs she has proportional to her views
I say you are smoking crack

>>4277082

>>4277082
14 hours later, is she there yet?

>>4297526
Gura has 164 videos on her channel

She has 115,848,895 total views

115,848,895/164 = average 708k views per video

Aqua has 327 videos and 126,349,378 views which equal an average of 386,390 views per video

Lets take Pekora "the most viewed Holo"
185,303,586/495 = 374,350

Gura has almost double the amount of views per video than the supposed most viewed Holo

You really are just being retarded at this point.

>>4277058
Is this a cringy takodachi flexing?

>>4297526
That is your reasoning ?
So it's not trolling then.
Cant believe that my precious Onyan has a fan that reflects herself too much.

Gura currently has 116,009,519 views over 164 streams. That is 707375 views / 1 stream

Aqua has 126524715 views over 327 streams. Or 386925 views / stream.

Even when including all very high view counts music videos, Gura's is still 1.8 times higher than Aqua.

>>4286265
>Weebshits are looked down in the west
anon do you realize how fucking popular anime has become over the past few years and especially during lockdown? I hear people discussing anime everywhere in uni.

>>4281119
>Gura has very shitty hours.

western vtuber viewership isnt only anglos but many of them are spics and br monkeys. so your timezone excuse is pointless.

>>4297932
Yes and compare her views to Mori who has under half her subs and debuted at the same time as her.
She barely has more views than her yet she has over double the subs.

>>4298895
What is a music video

>>4298895
music

>>4298895
Mori numbers
115,661,497/217= 533,002

Almost 200k more viewers on average is only "barely more views"

>>4298895
>let me pretends to forget about all of her songs mori uploaded

>>4281212
Same

>>4298699
>>4296876
>>4296910
Not him, but it seem yous guys are underestimating JP region. Prime hours in JP are also prime hours in the whole East Asia and SEA. It is one of the most populated regions in the world, and they like weeb stuffs a lot.

In JP anime characters are everywhere including national TV shows and tournaments.
I don't know if in the US they can advertise those things freely without criticism but I think the amount of people that watch anime stuffs from both US and Canada might not match Asia at all.

The moment when EN get their 3D models will mark the end of an era in hololive and thus kickstart a new one. A reality where the local talents will no longer be considered as the flagship branch as having 3D models is the only boon they have over EN. Each one of EN's 3D debuts will break the internet much, much harder than any JP talents had. Eventually, EN will dominate JP in every metric, be it superchats, VOD views, subcount and whatnot since they appeal to an infinitely wider audience. Numberfagging will reach it's ultimate retardation. Cover seeing the numbers will further shift the focus towards EN more and more to pander to as many global audience as possible instead of strenghtening the domestic fanbase. It's gonna be another Sony situation where it's a Japan-based company leaning hard to westernization to maximize profit. At that point, I would've already left these vtube shenanigans for a long time, just like I do any other once-niche otaku hobbies in the past that similarly suffered the same fate of unneeded popularization. It's unfortunate but I'll be coping by reminiscing the comfy times, such as when OKFAMS did a group zatsudan stream at the onsen and how Ayame managed to fish an enchanted book first try in minecraft, to a surprise of a few thousand viewers while I improve on my reps. Until then, I hope you people will keep enjoying your chuubas and continue rratposting, gosling over your current and future oshis and invent various new lingos along the way.

Aniki out.

>>4278223
>Upcoming (over 900k):
>20. Ayame
Redpill me on this oni. What I heard is she a cutie with cute healing giggles. What I see is a chuuni who gets too into her vidya; not that it's bad.

>>4299001
See >>4296441 and >>4278337 which it is replying to.

>>4277111
In about 2 months at this rate.

>>4277692
>If I climb high enough in subs, will I end up at the bottom of the list again?
You did that already, but you lapped everyone again.

>>4281447
>she'll probably pass 3m with only Pekora and Korone over 1.5mil.
Mori will get 1.5 mil before Gura gets 3 mil judging by the monthly subs listed in the OP..

>>4279078
>Cover should move their offices to the USA and dump their japanese talent to focus on EN.

A huge portion of their audience is Weebs. Ditching Japan would rankle a lot of their fanbase.

>>4292904
>Her past life?
She's tripled her original sub count by now. That can't account for it.

>>4297932
And lets remember that Aqua and Peko lost some of their old videos in the holocaust, which would have had lower views than average given how old they were.

>>4284722
In that case it would make more sense to use her Twitch subs imo. So if someone is making a list of the most subbed VTubers, they would count the subs from whichever is their main platform. Plus before becoming a VTuber she was a lot less popular as a Twitch streamer than as a YouTuber, in terms of subs at least. The issue is most of those sites only sort by YouTube and some don't even have Twitch.

>>4279153
I feel bad for friend, she was the one leading everything until shark and the eekum bokum mogged her a few thousand subs before reaching 1M, I belev she deserved that milestone more

What’s fascinating is Cover can only move so fast. Obviously HoloEN is blowing everyone out of the water. But it’s been less than a year. Predicting contracts still exist. Marketing deals have yet to expire. New contracts take time to negotiate. If they ask for metrics for the last 4 quarters they don’t even have them yet and their growth is insane. Making high quality merch like figures has months of lead time. Which is why Fubuki and Matsuri will get figurines and Mori won’t have an official one for what feels like way too long.

And I have some sympathy. A lot depends on the mental health and whims of a shy girl in her twenties who is suddenly a millionaire. How much of your company and future are you willing to bet a particular holo won’t have a breakdown or just quit at some point?

>>4277082
nope not there yet

>>4302633
So does Gura. That is part of why she doesn't like talking about numbers.

>>4277058
>180k
GURA IS UNSTOPPABLE

>>4278337
Without her music videos Mori would not even have half of those views

>>4302633
She did but she also knows its not a competition. I doubt many of the girls see it as one

>>4285328
Ame. She is being holding her power levels for soo long that the cracks are now for all to see.

>Made a jew conspiracy theory for rpg.

>>4296691
I still belev fbk is the face of hololive

>>4297526
>a large portion of her subscribers are botted subs and not legitimate.
holy COPE

>>4298895
>what are music videos
Moris VODs get below average numbers and without the music she would be at about 60 million views

I still have to do a double take when I see Okayu has a million subs. By all accounts, she should be mentioned more by people if she does have that many subs but I don't see a whole lot of her.

>>4302702
It's literally not that hard to make merch. Just put Gura's name on a mug and sell it.

>>4277082
I'm still waiting, chickenfag.

>>4302951
She is. Who do you think gets sent to TV shows in order to promote Hololive?

>>4282050
More Japanese watch vtubers than English speakers. It's far more popular there. Retarded comparison.

>>4303306
She's stronger than she appears at first glance. Her MV and ASMR archive views are very good and even if her stream views don't look very impressive you have to consider she gets them with mostly debuff games and nearly zero EOP pandering.

Gura is the viewership queen whether you want to admit it or not. Comparing her to Mori? Mori has a song with 20 million views. Aqua has a song with 10 million views. Once Gura releases songs on her channel it's over. She will rocket to the top of the total views ranking.

>>4285328
Ame

>>4283581
Charm, talent, the meme of it and the algorithm

>>4297318

>Oi he be stuffins es foce with dem gubbins Guvnah
>Right git eh is not loike us pure n advanced peoples
>Calm down Mohamed I dunna mean to get loud
>Ye Iknow this is yur flat too n Missues Merkal assigned you ere'
>Oh you be wanting me bum now? Course I aint no racist omophobe help yurself moite
>See ya bloody burger tis how civilized folks be actin

>>4277058
>tfw both my JP and EN oshis are over 1 million subs

>>4277082
Are we there yet?

>>4308183
>Gura is the viewership queen whether you want to admit it or not
You fail at number comprehension

>>4308183
I mean...She's grown this much without trying/sometimes actively trying not to grow. It's a case of "Imagine how powerful she could be if she tried to be". When she starts making original songs, I firmly believe we are gonna see some shit

>>4277082
still not there yet anon

>>4308183
so this is probably a dumb question but why hasn't she released a song yet?
i realize calli is special in her abillity to release a song a month and i don't expect that from any other idol.
however kiara got out 2 originals so far, and yes gura has done collabs (and they were great) but i really though she'd have one out by now.

>>4277884
hahahaha holy shit anon

>>4315687
I'm a big fan of her and she is my favorite EN and inside my top 5 for Holo overall but....she is lazy. If Gura, with her natural talents, worked as hard as Kiara you would have the undisputed best vtuber on the planet.

>>4302951
According to these retarded newfags, she's not, simply because she doesn't bring the big numbers, discrediting all the efforts she gave to build and promote the brand in its infancy to where it is now.

>>4277884
Holy KFCOPE

>>4315687
I assume it has to do with studio access. Kiara was having offline collabs left and right to make the most of her time in Japan before having to return home, so it figures she had also put in more studio time too.

>>4279549
Reminder
>It's sad to compare
There isn't any issue with celebrating and being happy with numbers, but don't drag others into it.

>>4277692
Gura should prestige and see if she can do it again.

>>4277082
ohno no no nO NO NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Gura on course to hit 3 million in July

>>4281832
Gura very often streams at work hours in Asia, so a good chunk of potential viewers is taken.

>>4303306
You look at Ayame's subs and tell me there's a God.

>>4303306
remember that drama and shitposting is overrepresented on this board
holos and fanbases that are uncontroversial will naturally not be as visible on /vt/

>>4326670
She already did that. Gura is her prestige rank.

>>4281832
Ina doesn't stream at Euro-friendly times. Maybe once a week she'll start early evening but usually she starts 10-11 euro time, when prime time is ending.

God, I just think it's so funny how KFP tried SO SO HARD to reach 1M subs, while Ina wins by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING other than her usual thing.

>>4277082
>Kiara
>high energy
>constantly engages chat and the game content
>speaks her thoughts out loud; goes on rants
>not in the 1m club

>Watson
>barely speaks; mostly silent
>says nothing except single word reactions; no full thoughts
>boring gameplay
>how did she even pass the audition
>no real talents
>replaceable by everyone
>1.2m

>Ina
>Barely speaks as well
>Its only "um.... ya..... hmm... maybe.... wow... hmm" when she does speak
>Worst mic in all of hololive; sounds like shes using her phone. Unprofessionally bad audio for someone of this scale. A $50 usb mic is better than this.
>"b-but its comfy asmr gf simulator" not with that mic.
>1m
at least she draws and would provide a form of content if she can fix that mic. Fix the audio and then sure the 1m is deserved.
But kiara should be topping this. I dont even watch kiara but she provides more than these two.

>>4283581
>What’s her secret?
She knows Youtube absolutely loves kid friendly content. Thats what she does.

>>4330353
Kiara didn't try any harder than everyone else in EN barring Ina.

>>4330845
Amelia's personality attracts the gamer audience. Her character design also makes her feel like girlfriend/girl next door material.

Ina is comfy to watch. Her talent in art speaks for itself and the atmosphere during streams is seldom rowdy.

Kiara may be considered too loud or even narcissistic, which may offend normal viewers.

>>4330916
What part of Guras content is more kid friendly than the other ENs?

holy shit marine exploded since I last watched vtubers

>>4331258
not exactly her content but primarily her cute character design. a smol shark isnt too threatening to the eyes of younger audiences, especially kids.

>>4331109
I respect this opinion.
Jokes aside, i dont hate Amelia or Ina. It would be nice to hear amelia talk more so i can grasp her personality better. After a few hours of having her on she just seemed like a blank slate. Her and Ina's bare responses dont say much since its not even clear what theyre responding to from chat most of the time.
Ina's mic issue is the big one. Id love to have her on for background if the audio was better.

>>4331258
Curses less. Her jokes seem to come from just a weird train of thinking that kids might like since its kinda random. In the 1-minute i saw from yesterday's stream, she asked if people shampoo their armpit fur in a genuinely curious tone. Thats pretty much nickelodeon humor

>>4315687
it's hard to actually produce originals better yet make albums. Kiara actually talked about this, it takes about 3-5 months in her recent original song. No one can pump out one song a month in hololive like Mori

ITT: only the best girls that are in this image in full
>not so fast KFP

>>4330845
>I dont even watch Kiara
Why do KFPfags insist on pretending to not be her fan to defend her? It’s pathetic and retarded honestly

>>4277082
This might be the best post on /vt/ right now. We’re still waiting chickenfag

eggay

>>4277884
This is some good pasta anon, I’ll have some more

>>4302797
>If you arbitrarily cut out a large amount of the content a holo puts out, then they'd have less views
Wow, that's crazy. Should we remove all of Suisei, Kanata and Okayu's music views as well?

>>4335084
I have listened to their songs several times, yet I am not going to watch 4h+ streams more than once. Its a skewed metric and there is no way to calculate it in a way that represents actual sub engagement

Will EN have some sort of celebration stream as the first Gen to reach one million?
I just know that Kiara will make them do it, weather they want to or not. Hell, probably even more now that she and Pekora sort of fell out.

It's not funny.
Stop this shit.

>>4334928
i only watch mori but can see the appeal of others


except watson.

Shes trying so hard. Imagine if shes left with 994k at the end of it

>>4334928
>anyone who gives their opinion towards kiara that is not criticism and hate speech to her is a KFP

Ogey

>>4336138
She is such a tryhard its kinda pathetic.

>>4277058
WHO is the face of HOLOLIVE

eggg

>>4330845
>But kiara should be topping this. I dont even watch kiara but she provides more than these two.
Provides what to who? They all cater to different types of people. Who are you to say she provides more than any of the others?

The only thing she provides more than the others is as one of the bridges to JP with her talkshow for viewers.

Calli does that through music. Her Rikka collab was amazing. I'm glad that she's giving the Stars some attention, even if it is only Rikka.

Ina does that through art and some of the chillest streams with JP, look at her MonHun collab or the Nene / Polka minecraft one.

Watson is easily one of the most creative and experimental of the Myth girls. That "YouTube plays Outfit Reveal" was based as fuck. She's been tech support for her genmates as well.

So kindly fuck off with this "Kiara deserves it more". Does she deserve recognition? - sure. But don't put down the others to prop her up more.

Kiara has to try hard because Huke gave her a garbage design. I'm sure she'd be able to just shut up and "chill" her way to 1 million subs if she didn't have one of the trashiest designs in Hololive

>>4349965
>I'm glad that she's giving the Stars some attention, even if it is only Rikka
I am gonna put a rrat out there and say it is because Roberu has declined her offer to have collab with Mori. Why? He probably doesn't want to seem like a leech.

Okay numberfags, how many of the girls will have reached the million mark by the end of this year? Matsuri and Suisei are givens. But how do the projections look for Botan or Watame? Wasn't there a list with all the predictions?

>>4277082
still not there yet... what happened anon?

>>4344730
998k now, she's going to reach 1M even before the 1M endurance stream. Now, who are the pathetic? better keep unsubbing to the chicken right now faggot