/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>42889297
>Opens YouTube
>Oh look anon is streaming
>*clicks*
>watch for 2 minutes while browsing YouTube to watch something else that is actually entertaining

Reminder that Pekora is confirmed cute and funny

Reminder that nijisanji is falling apart

>>42889384
>Does this multiple times a week for 2.5 years
>Buys all her shit even though you don't like her
>Listens to her music even though you don't like her
Do you not understand how retarded this cope sounds

>>42889365
Recent clip numbers
>>42819770
>>42819808
>>42819844
>>42819883
>>42819919

Niji EN do need to save face, their daily numbers indicate a herd of silently disgusted fans leaving.

Previously on /#/

>>42889388
If true other holos wouldn't be able to hold themselves back from the bunny cunny.

>>42889409
>multiple times a week
You wish chumbud lmao

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>45,052: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>40,418: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,020: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>30,604: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>29,463: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,184: Aqua (Hololive)
>28,297: Miko (Hololive)
>27,749: Sumire (VSPO)
>23,809: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,665: Lize (Nijisanji)
>21,227: Watame (Hololive)
>21,184: Botan (Hololive)
>20,970: Ars (Nijisanji)
>20,093: Air (Nijisanji)
>19,859: Miko (Hololive)
>19,637: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>18,751: Kanata (Hololive)
>18,499: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,192: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>17,841: Mito (Nijisanji)
>16,531: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,469: Met (VSPO)
>14,878: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,815: Sango (Nijisanji)
>14,074: Kobo (Hololive)
>13,656: Flare (Hololive)
>12,606: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,171: Runa (VSPO)
>11,957: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,955: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>11,345: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,064: Ito Life (Indie)
>11,025: Korone (Hololive)
>10,362: Kaida (Nijisanji)
>10,305: Lamy (Hololive)

>>42889384
>JP viewers just have a higher watchtime bro

>>42889418
Miko certainly couldn't

>>42889435
Gura gets more vod views than most of HoloEN even when she isn't streaming, anon

>>42889418
Why do you think she is a recluse that never invites anyone over?

>>42889416
>the first and last statements
The duality of /#/

>>42889416
How was guras return successful? She git less than her normal unarchived karaoke and not even 10k in sc

Between EN and ID, which branch is closer to JP?

>>42889409
>even though you don't like her
You're seeing things again anon

>>42889444
Lo peko beat miko twice, at the same games even.

>>42889416
>VOD views are fake
HAHA, CCV IS CONF-
>CCV can be botted and is a fake number
N-no...

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>45,052: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>40,418: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,020: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>30,604: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>29,463: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,184: Aqua (Hololive)
>28,297: Miko (Hololive)
>27,749: Sumire (VSPO)
>23,809: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,665: Lize (Nijisanji)
>21,227: Watame (Hololive)
>21,184: Botan (Hololive)
>20,970: Ars (Nijisanji)
>20,093: Air (Nijisanji)
>19,859: Miko (Hololive)
>19,637: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>18,751: Kanata (Hololive)
>18,499: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,192: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>17,841: Mito (Nijisanji)
>16,531: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,469: Met (VSPO)
>14,878: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,815: Sango (Nijisanji)
>14,074: Kobo (Hololive)
>13,656: Flare (Hololive)
>12,606: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,171: Runa (VSPO)
>11,957: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,955: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>11,345: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,064: Ito Life (Indie)
>11,025: Korone (Hololive)
>10,362: Kaida (Nijisanji)
>10,305: Lamy (Hololive)

>>42889478
ID easily

>>42889481
So they "like her" but don't find her entertaining enough to watch for more than 2 minutes, but for some reason keep clicking her stuff even though they don't enjoy it at all?
You're contorting yourself into a logical pretzel

>>42889449
talented streamers have higher watchtime. less skilled streamers, not so much

>>42889416
Based AI destroying this thread's core beliefs.

>>42889499
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Marine
1x: Gaku, Himawari, Miko, Mito, Nijisanji

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
30x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Towa
1x: Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Miko, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Subaru, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro

>>42888729
Shit video, he confused Stellar Stellar with Still Still Stellar. Watch Aburage's video instead, it's in the description.

Iroha is too powerful nowadays

Why is Kiara streaming during JP prime time? Isn't she "English".

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/11 DAILY TALLY
8,080: IRyS (Hololive)
6,201: Magni (Holostars)
5,636: Baelz (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: Baelz
2x: Mori
1x: Amelia, Ina, Mumei, Kronii, Fauna, IRyS

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
20p: Baelz
14p: Mori
9p: Ina, IRyS
8p: Fauna
7p: Kronii, Vox
6p: Amelia
5p: Mumei
4p: Kiara
3p: Uki, Luca, Magni
1p: Mysta

>>42889512
Anon i have merchs from a lot of holomems, doesn't mean I care enough to take more than 5 minutes of my time watching them talking about their job

>>42889575
She’s streaming for auschads

>>42889513
Actually, even the most talentless 3view shitter on twitch will likely see a watchtime of 20 minutes at a minimum if they're a game streamer. 45 minutes plus is the norm with decent/loved streamers getting up to 90 minutes average watchtime. But as always I guess everything that applies to every single other streamer, content creator or internet user just magically doesn't apply to Hololive because... IT JUST DOESN'T OKAY?????

>>42889478
ID will only get close to JP when there's a sandbox game arc like Rust/Minecraft
Irl, EN is the closest to them considering many offcollabs they've done together

>>42889581
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
23x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei
4x: Amelia, Baelz
3x: Mysta, Ina, Mori
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, IRyS, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Fauna

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
37p: Mumei
35p: Ina
27p: Baelz
26p: Vox
25p: Fauna
24p: Amelia
23p: Mysta
20p: IRyS
19p: Mori
17p: Kronii
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
11p: Kiara
10p: Pomu
8p: Ike, Millie
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana
4p: Enna, Uki
3p: Sonny, Hakka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>42889512
that's basically how casual fans does anon. They might watch her when she's playing their favorite game, or when she's singing a song they like, but they don't waste their time watching something they won't find entertaining

>>42889575
1st army of EN.

>>42889404
It's all tumbling down

>>42889416
Even the bot is roasting /#/

>>42889585
So you're saying that your logic applies to all Holos, and Gura's not some sort of weird special case where her fans only watch her for 2 minutes at a time and churn like mad?
Ergo, her extremely high VOD views don't have anything to do with this stupid cope argument you're formulating, because you just admitted it applies to tons of other streamers...

GRIM

ez half a milly vod for the goombster
eat shit #

Honestly, why is there a need to maintain that your oshi is the best and the others are shit, despite the numbers? Just take the L and move on.
Or do it the kobokek way. They show up when kobo does well and then they silently fuck off when kobo's ccv got btfo. Or maybe they are falseflaggers using her to make fun of Luxiem.

Oh peko ending means part of her viewers will funnel to marine.

>>42889459
It’s not like Ina, Kronii, Ame and IRyS have been really streaming machines recently.

>>42889575
Still looking for buff primetime for her channel

>>42889388
*miko

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

>cold toilet

My fucking sides, seems like even jps is aware of vox's yab.

>VOD falseflaggers vs. “VODCOEP” falseflaggers
I pity the one or two anons discussing this at their earnest

>>42889628
lol

>>42889680
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

>>42889598
>11pm
Y-yeah great time for us.

>>42866843 and >>42889313

If all the Nijisanji members organize their own tournaments every 2-3 days, Nijisanji would win gold all year round.
How come they have not done that yet?

>>42889478
ID?

>>42889677
There is no right timeslot for kiara.

Remember: since CCV doesn't matter there's no reason to stream content live. Every vtuber should upload edited videos because it will maximise profits and brand value.

>>42889600
Anon it’s scientifically proven human have a max attention span of 45 minutes

iroha is so cute

What's wrong with Irys? I know she was off for half of the past month, but still.

>>42889731
Anon the earth is round

>>42889707
You are doubting a member of legendary gen?

>>42889742
anon...

>>42889600
>twitch
That's where you fucked up anon.
YouTube counts their numbers wildly different than how twitch count theirs.
And twitch is a streaming platform, users that check and uses that sites enjoy the streaming format and probably has tons of time to waste to begin with.
YouTube is a vod platform, people visit the site to distract themselves for 5-10minutes. They click whatever is recommended to them, spend 5 minutes and then do something else. You can compare someone like Ludwig that does around 20k nowadays with 350k average vod views

* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 02/10/2023 *
(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)
>452,134 Kuzuha (ANYCOLOR) (22.2%)
>300,466 Houshou Marine (COVER) (89.9%)
>299,690 Sakura Miko (COVER) (74.3%)
>212,877 Shirayuki Reid (Neo-Porte) (108.5%)
>168,578 Tokoyami Towa (COVER) (80.4%)
>162,044 Kaela Kovalskia (COVER) (25.9%)
>150,234 Akai Haato (COVER) (501.7%)

>>42889644
The only true metric is CPM. And we'll never know that. The value of a view compared to others would toss a lot out the window. Imagine having 500k views and only making like 60$ off of it.

>ccv doesn't matter
so this thread should not be exist now?

Milord, save NijiEN.

>>42889691
No shit someone translated it and posted it on 5ch

1 MILLION DORYAAAAAAAAAA

We know Gura's demographics and they're spread all over the globe. The obvious explanation for her huge fucking VOD views is that 1. she has a huge fanbase and 2. the majority can't watch her live, or won't because it's inconvenient
This is really quite simple, this argument is kinda dumb

>>42889731
I want a British Holo in EN3

>>42889785
What I said applies equally to youtube from what the indies and big bois I've watch have said and shown anon. That's where you fucked up. I'm not interested in trying to convince you when you're clearly a knownothing dickhead, just putting you straight in case any lurkers or casual browsers see you spouting absolute cunt gibberish like "oh all of Gura's viewers click off in two minutes trust me".

the niji tourney is still in semifinals so finals will be starting around 20jst

So who would gold today?

>>42889823
>should not be exist now?

>>42889725
Riku believes ACCELERATE and mindchair bring more money than peak ccv.

JP7 tomorrow

>>42889849
or views botting

>>42889513
>watch talented streamer
>fully entertained within 5 minutes of watching them
>get on with day

>watch talentless/washed out streamer
>mildly entertaining
>never fully entertained
>sit through entire stream out of hope that it’ll be better
>continue watching other washed out streamers hoping they’ll be better

>>42889780
That’s the average

New Hologra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mQFojrPOSI

>>42889644
Skill issue in terms of content for holos who can't retain their audience.

>>42889861
Who is qualified for the finals?

>>42889873
No gold for you holokeks
Our king already won it

>>42889691
Nah, that's a reference to a previous vox clip talking about his experience in Japan (it's not this one but he brings up never wanting to use a cold toilet again)
https://youtu.be/PZh4yW0mKXw

>jwu
wow, another nijien yab, this is kinda amazing at this point

What the fuck kind of cursed infos did this thread got it’s hand onto now? Now we discuss viewer retention like we know shit about it

Can I ask a question nicely: How come some people here say VOD does not matter?

Only [metric that supports my agenda] is a good metric, everything else is cope

>>42889953
This is not really a yab per se but just management being incompetent (what's new)

>>42889969
Just the usual, Gura getting VOD views way, way out of proportion with her CCV, so now people are arguing about why
It's a classic!

>>42889972
because I said so now fuck off and kys retarded faggot

>>42889972
Matter for what?

>>42889953
I thought the same thing too. I kind of just want to skip coming here for a couple of weeks and see how niji changed .

>>42889767
>

>>42890000
Reckon youtube might not be giving us the full picture?

>>42889972
Because its a metric that favours EN and they can't have that, look at how they gaslit the thread into disregarding subs because jp lost in that metric

>>42889913
>LaPlus BTFO!
>Marine BTFO!

>>42890000
Did people fucking forgot it’s a comeback stream after months? Why wouldn’t it do numbers?

>>42889972
One possible answer people will give you is that "they can't be horse raced, so it's not fun to numberfag them".
A cynic might say it's because "Gura gets really good VOD views, and some people don't like her, so they downplay it as hard as they can".

>>42889673
>3k
Irys....

>>42889972
Because it aborts Ken's narrative.

>>42889852
>oh all of Gura's viewers click off in two minutes trust me
That's what the data shows anon, what can I say?
400k people clicked on her return stream, and 360k left before she ends her stream.
Were they expecting something else? Are they just one of millions of normies who were looking for content then who didn't know what they clicked? Were they not entertained from what Gura were doing?
Your guess is just as good as mine, but that doesn't change the fact that most of her literal viewers didn't find her worth their time to watch until the end.

>>42889873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnt9cCDf2Gk

>>42890037
No it only favor Gura. She’s the only EN who get impressive VOD views

>>42890037
>its a metric that favours EN
What.

>>42889828
It's like Niji En isn't even trying anymore. Why does it seem that most of them aren't streaming? Are they practicing for a concert or something?

Horse race is on

>>42890087
You have exactly as much evidence for that as the people who will say it's because of CCV cull: zero

>>42889767

The real question is why are irys vod views so low? She streams for like 6 hours and only has 50k views

>>42890103
>Are they practicing for a concert or something?

>>42890104
Did Pekora move to part C just in time for Marine starting? Lmao

>>42889852
>What I said applies equally to youtube from what the indies and big bois I've watch have said and shown anon
>lurkers or casual browsers
You're not convincing anyone If you're arguing from supposed authority without posting source anon

MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD OF DEAD HOURS

>>42890087
Utter cunt gibberish yet again from a dumb phoneposter.

Niji management finally deleted that 15 hour old yab tweet you guys were bitching about last thread. Just how powerful is this thread?

>>42889972
vods views and subs can be botted easily
ccvs can't and even if someone botted ccvs you can tell it's botted or not in graph easily

How the hell does this place talk like they're Youtube insiders with data?
How can you guys be so confident with your argument about numbers?

>>42890087
It's not just Gura. It's everybody. Not everybody stays on a zatsudan.
The EN scene is more notorious with the peak first bleed later problem.

>>42890146
Usual sankisei stuff.

>>42890163
>7pm JST
>dead hours

>>42890132
higher retention so her viewers tend to watch longer but has low viewers churn so less people are visiting and watching her stream

>>42890178
Was the reply section of that not a riot?

>>42890159
Post your source for viewer retention data

>>42890213
EOP board.

>>42890163
Well of course this is JP hours

>>42890163
Have to hand it to consistency!

>>42890159
Sure I am, provide a source for the claim that I'm not.

>>42890228
ESL SEAboard

On another news there will be sankisei collab valentines edition

>>42890215
Yeah, IRyS just has way more dedicated fans than Gura.
Actually, it's really good to get as few VOD views as possible, the fewer the better.

>>42890228
For you maybe since you're a retarded faggot who doesn't know any other language

>>42890178
>It's up for 16 hours without incident
>Taken down within an hour once people started noticing
NijiEN management is here. Anything you want to say to their interns?

Marine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAZSZNq0ePA

>>42890281
/vt/ is the EOP board, if you don't like it /jp/ is two rows down

>>42890258
Anyone wanna guess whose idea?

>>42890287
She's looking good 12m in

>>42890114
Source:
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853833
ccv is concurrent viewers, playback/views is how much a device is playing the stream
Therefore a supposed stream that ends with 40k ccv with a 400k vod views means 400k playbacks are started and only 40k remains by the end of the stream. That is 360k playbacks ended before the stream ends.
Where's your source anon?

>>42890185
It is the opposite you retard. Ccv can be botted easily but youtube has a bucnh of checks for vod views because that is how much money they make and have to pay the youtuber

GO MARINE GO

>>42890285
Announce Millie's suspension cowards

>>42890220
I don't think many people noticed the doxx part, the replies were mostly people thanking them for doing JP again and pointing out they misspelled the handle (before it got changed)

>>42890215
Is that why her merch sales are so shit? Her fans keep her merch longer?

Needs about 10K more to steal gold. Can she do it?

>>42890281
Where are all of the other languages anon? All I see is English.

>>42890315
Pekora should stop being selfish and let Marine win the day for everyone's benefit

>>42890312
Gura. Gen 3 got jealous with the myth unity.

>>42890318
>YouTube cares about VODs
Proof???

Is this a raid?

>>42890356
2hu player. Trust the plan

>>42890189
The issue is more amplified to Gura because she unironically has more Mindshare/popularity that her streams ends up in more people who doesn't care much for streams/vtuber content.
Her sub count basically confirms this

>>42890313
Today’s number to beat is coincidentally the same as yesterday’s. I expected Marine to be able to do it since she start near her usual slot

>>42890314
OK, you posted a support page for a youtuber's private analytics page, and an explanation of the metrics that appear on that page.
Can you please post Gura's internal channel dashboard? I'm dying to see it

>>42890309
We're in the /#/ thread, your language doesn't matter to numbers faggot

Technically, at ID's currect success right now, I believe they could debut 5 more people and Cover investing a small 3D studio for them so that the IDsphere could be built up. It seems like a lot of ID people are watching holoID's events and they need at least 20 people to create an ID box for them to monopolize. Sure, their currency and vtuber culture might seem insignificant now, but HoloJP was like this 4 years ago too.

>>42890356
Easy. She'll get deep into the new level and peak another 12k.

How come NijiEN fans act like they care about NijiJP when there were barely any NijiJP clips?

>>42890371
Anon she already move to part C before the slot change. Thats enough funnel for marine to win gold.

NijiEN's cancelled concert must have been the final straw.

>>42890318
>Ccv can be botted easily
that's why graph are a thing
>youtube has a bucnh of checks for vod views
lol

>>42890376
>how much money they make and have to pay the youtuber
Learn to read, retard.

>>42890189
Gura had consistent ~40k for 2 hours though.

>>42890318
Youtube pays by watchtime, a measure we can't really calculate.
Which is why the cash you get per 1k views varies wildly from video to video.
A 1 hour long video essay with 1m views pays better than a 10 second short with 10m views.

>>42890390
She's sleeping right now, I'll ask her when she wakes up.

Nijisanji seems like they want to make a pachinko tourney to be like koshien lmao. Obviously since I assume the pachhinkos they use are from konami

>>42890356
Easy Marine gold

GRIMsharts status?

>>42890378
yes

You know what can't be faked? Superchats, memberships.

>>42890357
Cause we're just using the lowest common denominator of a language here so retards can understand each other here, since you're an EOP we try to go on the same level as you

>>42890412
The final straw was the subsequent events from HoloEN that came out of nowhere after stagnating for too long with no events and less streams

>>42890428
Not just watch time, it's something youtube calls "verified watch hours".
Anyways we can only guess those unless someone hacks into the girls' accounts and leaks that shit.

>>42890396
Reine has a functioning 3D studio btw

>>42890428
No anon youtube pays per view. Why would they pay for watchtime when they onoy get money for ads

Cmon Marine beat that tournament for Pekora, only you can do what she can’t

>>42890378
No, not sharp enough spike to be a raid. That's just regular old funnel.

>>42890464
Merch sales

>>42890318
>youtube has a bucnh of checks for vod views
and kpops trannies make shit tons of throw away account to views up which you can't do that in ccv

>>42890470
Connect the World might still bomb or be some con meet and greet instead of whatever you think it is.

>>42890087
Bafflingly retarded post.

>Hasn't unlocked Stage 3
Owari da

>>42890356
looks like it, Marine is the top vtuber for a reason

amazing that it doesn't even matter that everyone else has already streamed it, Marine is too strong

>>42890163

>>42890428
It also varies on type of content. Some of the highest CPM is ads that are targeted at a younger audience.

>>42890421
Yeah because it is so hard to program bots to not all activate at the same time

More clip numbers.
Marine keeps getting all these mindchairs.
Split today is 19.3M(+1.2M) HL to 11.1M(-350k) NJ.

>>42890464
>can't be faked? Superchats,
Yes it can. Wasn’t one of the early accusations towards vtubers the suspicion that they were being used to laundry money

>>42890483
You know midrolls exist right? Why do you think people have shifted to longer format videos for ages now?

>>42890498
Kek, connect the world just got canned

>>42890483
Because of youtube premium, you idiot.

>>42890496
What do "kpop trannies" have to do with anything regarding vtubers?

Can marine beat gura's peak?

>>42890525
Graph.

>>42890525
Whats going on with kiara? Did she have a nip slip?

If all the metrics on Youtube can be faked, what is the point of #? I feel lost.

>>42890537
???
Source?

>>42890483
A longer stream means more ads in the vod, I would know since every time I watch a vod it feels like I get an ad every 10 minutes. I actually wonder, when I watch a stream in real time I only get an ad at the beginning, but when I watch a vod there can be multiple ads, so are vods that much more profitable?

END YOUR STREAM KOYORI

>>42890562
My gura gold... Why are the japs so mean

>Close to beatingPeko in the first 10 minutes
Pekora fell off so hard it’s not even funny

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>42890525
Split today is 5.3M(+1.4M) HL to 1.7M(+170k) NJ.

>>42890558
It's inevitable, Gura's peak wasn't that high unless you're considering the z peak

>>42890568
Got carried by gura.

>>42890569
Shh, just post "0 golds" and a smug peko.

>>42890464
>Superchats can't be faked
Company SC their talents...

>>42890531
Also another example, although I won't call it "fake", but I remember one incident from Vox is that one of his paypig using other paypigs money for projects to superchat.

>>42890396
Japan median income-40k
Indonesia median income-10k

>>42890596
Graph.

>/#/ is full of people who never even bothered to google how Youtube works
Who would've thunk.

>another aqua run
i watched hours and hours last night to see aquatan clear stage 2...

>>42890586
She won't even make it to the podium, KING, Marine, Akushio and the tournament will bump it out.

senchou 40k

With Marine still climbing and Gaku getting close to the finish, Gura will probably end up not even making the podium.

>>42890569
Last samurais need a place to feel better about their failed investment so that they can pretend EN is not doing better than JP

>>42890542
because you're retarded

>>42890569
Don't take the red pill. All metrics can't be faked. All of these are legitimate for shitposts.

>>42889365
What a cutie.

>>42890569
Wrestling is fake but you can still enjoy it. Not everything needs to be real.

RUN FASTER VAMP BOY

>>42890636
Don't worry marine is pretty good at this game. She's like botan who cleared stage 1 hard on first try.

>>42890525
More clip numbers by Source.

Imagine a tournament finals slipping to holocure stream #1000

>>42890572

>>42890569
To shitpost, what else.

>>42890623
kek, that was funny as fuck. Imagine the snake’s nest that fandom was

>>42890531
They cannot be fake transactions. You can argue over whether or not the sources of the transactions are on the level, with there being quite a vested interest in ensuring they are and any fraud is uncovered, but the actual transactions themselves are more or less totally transparent and accurate. Unlike the mysterybox of views.

>>42890569
their achievements

>>42890675
Still not as good as Mumei who's the only one to have cleared all stages on her first try.

>>42890569
3rd party dislike counters can’t be faked

>>42890569
everything can be faked anon.
science can be faked.
technology can be faked.
you know what can't be faked?
buying 4chan pass for $20

Is kiara the most important hololive member? I feel like she's the bridge between all branch.

>>42890586
It was never in the cards, anon.

It's funny that this thread stemmed out from nasfaq (plus the resident numberfags of each threads). Nasfaq is like the jews of /vt/, the true masterminds

>>42890586
EN will NEVER get a gold

>>42890465
Relax Einstein. I wasn't aware I was in the presence of a higher being that knows not one but TWO whole languages. Holy fuck.

>>42890736
It's Regis.
They is the first one to bridge HoloEN and NijiEN and most importantly, they supports the cause.

>>42890593
No, this is just Marine being the strongest holo combined with a semi-rarity buff.

So Marine has higher Holocure peak than Peko?

>>42890572

>>42890781
It's actually 4 faggot

>>42890635
Even those people should know that youtube does not give a single fuck about ccv

>>42890652
>answering with "because" on a "what"
ESLchama, you're the retard here.

>>42890797
Yeah, Pekora and Marine regularly trade blows.

>>42890797
>So Marine has higher peak than Peko?
Of course

>>42890745
That’s the thing
You need 50k above to get a sure gold nowadays. If you gold is less than 50k then First Army and people like Chinman can always easily snipe it

>>42890797
>Danmaku Queen perform better in Danmaku Game
As expected.

Aaaaaaaaahhhh my gold

current senchou gold

>>42890651
Shart still coping? EN is flopping like a dead fish while JP is thriving.

Marine slides into gold position

>>42890798
Time to pull up the invisible cloak since this is 4chan heh.

Marine current silver. Can she get gold?

>>42890498
That's the nijinigger prayer now huh?

>>42889412
I only click on these number threads for the feet and I’m disappointed in this one. If we aren’t going to get a feet thread then I NEED you to step it up Anon.

SENCHOU GOLD GETTO

>>42890767
>It's funny that this thread stemmed out from nasfaq
Wut? It most certainly did not. This thread coalesced from the end of the day VNuma screencap daily “OH NO NO” shitpost thread.

VAMPNEET HAS BEEN CRUSHED!

Gura is kicked off podium (if we use the vrabi filter)

Marine gold now

>>42890845
Why are you replying to yourself.
>>42890853
Marine is currently gold, she might slip to the tournament but who knows.

Marine is about to become the current gold holder, she should get a 20 mins run in this try which would give her a ~50-52k peak to get some advantage against the Niji Tournament finals

>>42890845
>he says this when EN are getting an EN-exclusive concert and also a barrage of figures while most JPs don't even have one
kek

>>42890853
Nah i don't think she can beat gura's peak

Marine will have the highest Holocure this season/patch. Anyone remember who got the highest last patch? I remember Marine playing it first but don't remember if Pekora beat her.

>>42890867
Which we do and have consistently used for months

>kuzuha_slip.jpeg

>>42889412
I take it back. I posted too soon. I scrolled some more and am now satisfied. Good job.

Oh hey, Marine gets gold.

>>42890862
but isn't tallyanon and chart anon from there?

how long is the niji tournament jesus christ
they are really milking these

>>42890840
KUZUSIS DON'T LOOK

>Marine Holocure vs Niji tourney Finals
Bets????

>>42890878
It depends, did she played with Aqua already?

>>42890883
Pekora got 46k last time I think, highest peak with Marine trailing behind her

>>42890832
Yeah, which is why I sait it was never in the cards. And never will. Gura is too culled/reclined/cursed/whatever to win a gold. This shit happens literally every fucking time she has a big stream. Watch tomorrow being a day of sub-30k streams where she could easily have been on the top.

Gura Gold
Senchou Silver
Nijisanji Bronze
Hololive is dominating

>>42890883
marine is the highest for all the patches

>>42890767
What the fuck are you talking about, nasfaq and /#/ developed along completely different lines. Nasfaq formed because some guy made a stock market game out of hololive streams and /#/ formed because global had enough of numbers related timeloops

>>42890867
Come on Marine beat the Z so that chumpedos can be silenced

>>42890879
Floppity flop shart. You will never be relevant.

Another day another holo gold

Marine gold?

>>42890810
Cringe. You probably sound like a inaudible ESL mess trying to speak kek

>>42890923
>Gura Gold
Anon check the graphs, Zs don't count.

marine gold and gura is off the podium now

Not over yet bronies. Finals will funnel all viewers to 1 channel

>>42890906
every round is like an hour or so. and this round is semifinals B so next round is probably finals

>>42890917
Marine peak 50k last time.

Marine has the upper hand. Nijitournament will struggle. When is the finals?

>>42890909
AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SLIPKING!!!!

>>42890899
>King slipped again
He just can't catch a break, can he?

>>42890879
>JP exclusive concert
Already happened
>Figures
Lapluss alone is getting 3 figures

So I went to check Gura old vods for comparison, the numbers were pretty meh for how long ago they were and for their stream duration. Her comeback stream today totally overperformed in vod views.

Again her comeback stream is only 1 stream and using it as the sole standard is cherrypicking and retarded, gonna have to monitor her subsequent streams.

>>42890879
You must be incapable of counting ENcel.

>>42890921
Gura is on Subaru's stream tomorrow, it counts as a gold for her.

>>42890942
She is going for it
Wonder how would the gold per gen tally even look like at the end of this year. PekoMari is practically taking turn for gold

>>42890940
The only reason holo lost a gold to this tournament was because the pink whore decided to overlap Pekora on the same game.
Meanwhile Pekora timed her ending exactly to when Marine started.
Spot the difference.

>>42890942
Still gura gold.

/#/ told me Gura gold was confirmed.
Why the fuck did you lie to me?

>>42890994
No, it'd be a gold for Subaru.

>>42890994
ENleechs are this desperate.

>>42890840
kek

>>42890983
>Already happened
EN will be part of every JP branch concert going forward no matter how much you cope, /jp/nigger

>>42890586
49k is already gold

>>42890943
Spoken like a true EOP who can't learn any other language

Risu surviving in overlap hell also, Risu if RTX on

> niji tries to highlight one of their unknown JP livers
> makes 1 (ONE) spelling mistake
> links to doxxfag
> Twitter replies all saying "I'll check her out" without even seeing the discrepancy
> tweet gets posted /here/ and then IMMEDIATELY deleted
> all of this from one fucking typo
This is classic Watamage

>>42890989
October/November was pretty grim in terms of vod views for her. Her vod views are suddenly "normal" like other streams with similar duration and ccv.

Yab risu dox

>VODbuds are back
Well, the 3 months without them shitting the thread were nice

https://youtu.be/znbKSMSRZt8

>>42890924
With the result this patch I guess HoloCure is really Marine's game not just by her playing it first last time.

>>42891017
Subaru wouldn't get gold tomorrow without Gura/Ina/Kobo propping her up

>>42891011
/#/ is terminally retarded and untrustworthy, pls understand.

>>42891031
Did your copium induced delirium tell you that ENcel?

>>42890942
Gura 49k

>>42891057
kobo yab deflection

>>42891031
Calm down child, I am just correcting your post

can the hag get 50k?

>>42891041
Is that pic 360p RTX?

>>42891044
My suspicion is that it did not initially link to a doxxfag but the doxxfag changed its handle, if it is possible.

Are we actually counting Z lmao?

>42891093
>42891036
>42891006
Are cumbuds ok?

>>42891072
Nobody cares, anon. Subaru's channel = her gold, period.

>>42891031
>>42891076
>1 minute 7 seconds apart
I hate flips

Reminder that VODcucks are huffing copium. If it's not important enough to watch live, it's not important period. Your shartshortshark is not relevant enough for people to care to watch her live.

She might even beat Gooba's Z peak

>>42891120
Yeah you can do that as long as the handle is untaken

>>42891072
The show wouldn’t exist without Subaru coming up with it

Gura 3D showcase is guaranteed gold right?

Ngl but Anycolor spamming tourney seems like a sound strategy.
Much better than Cover's meta which is spamming 3D concert, of which has been reclining for the past month

>vods don't matter because... They just don't okay?

>>42891122
No, ignore the retarded chumbuds. Even 35p were better than that.

>>42891071
i think she's just lucky that most of the time when she's streaming the timeslot is almost empty literally no competition

>>42891108
I like how I recognize that artsyle of aqua

>>42891122
It's just one shitposter.

>>42891120
Yeah at first the handle just linked to nothing, then someone took that handle (there's a 5 hour old tweet that shows the handle already taken with no bio) then added the anti stuff on the bio.

How do we know Z is not the legit viewership number?

You deserve the EN management.
May the blue homo(formerly omega) continue to poison branch.

This is one of the finalist of the niji tourney who will probably play against the winner between ars and ratna.
>a relatively who is in the finals

Fellas what the fuck am I reading?

>>42891217
Are you retarded or what?

Remember when /MANS/ was meant to kill global?

What's the highest number for a holocure stream?

>>42891165
>45k pachinko tournament

>>42891169
It's a less fun metric other than MVs and channel total views which is a lot more readily available and trackable data.

>>42891103
yep

>>42890901
Not really. There is no commonality between what these you mentioned usually post and what NASFAQ has as their posts

>>42891165
>Idol company
>Spamming 3 le bad startegy
Anon....

>>42891239
PHASE CHAD DOMINATION

>>42891217
We don’t, we just discount it to be safe since the logic is
>Z is not necessarily bot
>But bot is definitely gonna cause a Z
Better be safe than accidentally count a bottled number

>>42891169
Does the top most watched rankings include vods? The thing is no talks about vods.

>>42891231
Indospeak?

>Marine 47k
How many buckets have chumkeks sweated their balls out so far?

>>42890958
>having to funnel all viewers to one channel to win against one boomer pirate playing a fan game

>>42891165
Having 150 livers help rotate the rosters, though it also takes a considerable amount of effort for doing tourneys

>>42891241
60k or 61k marine (then again it turn into a impromptu collab because of lamy dropping by

>>42890178
just woke up, what tweet?

>>42888729
huh I watched this when it had sub 1k views
feels weird seeing it with big numbers now

>>42891231
Indog language is so weird

Holospy here. Kaneko Lumi of Phaseconnect just admitted to visiting her 26 year old groomer when she was 14 and /pcg/ is on meltdown now.

Yab Kobo dox

>>42891275
Thats clearly pag pag language anon

>>42891275
Blindchama...

Just woke up, gura gold today?

>>42891276
None, I never expected Gura to get more than 35k in the first place.

pedochads...

>>42891275
>>42891289
can you read anon?

>>42891231
Ignore that moral busybody.
Also the argument stinks /pol/.

>>42891165
>niji tourneys
>Earning a few hundred to thousand buckos from Youtube adsense

>Holo3D lives
>$80k+++ in a few minutes after merch announced

*casually mogs your comeback*

>>42891276
Her non-Z peak was only 41k. She's already kicked off the podium.

>>42891309
Lol no. Not even a podium.

>>42891161
Doesn't matter, it wouldn't get gold if she invited third string shitters like Nene or Aki, Gura and Kobo's contribution matters

What's the cope if Marine surpasses the Z?

>>42891316
CUMBUDDIES!!??
WHAT THE FUCK.

>>42891349
Not on her channel still
Koyori 60k collab was not a Pekogold

>Sora gets access to mocopi
>Becomes a delinquent that stands on her bed in shoes
No...

>>42891367
Why cope? It's Marine.

>>42891367
Cull and VODs, as usual

>>42891072
I agree every holoJP numbers is all thanks to holoEN building strong foundation.

>>42891039
Still speaking English here by the way kek

>>42891309
Yes Gura 49k

All this VOD bs discussion just because of a single (1, UNO) buffed return stream? Jesas at least wait for another week before concluding, else might as well change # into cherrypicking central.

>>42891349
Anon, quit this bullshit already. Gura won't get a gold, ever. She is eternallly confined to cripple tally.

>>42891367
This guy >>42890373 first on my chopping block if that happened

>>42891281
Check catalog. Niji linked some doxx account for a promotional tweet because everyone involved in that side branch is apparently severely brain damaged.

>>42891392
You could wipe EN off the face of the planet tomorrow and the main branch and their audience wouldn't even blink.

>muh gold
>muh ccv
Who the fuck cares?
Gura literally saved hololive from bankruptcy with her taco bell ad.
Learn some humility retards.

>>42891238
No, how do you have concrete proof that Z is not legit? Answer me then.