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42879305 No.42879305 [Reply] [Original]

I don't feel like reading through your generals, spoonfeed me the juiciest recent chuuba drama

>> No.42879465

Zaion is retarded
Kyo is a bitch
Vox got the dox lmao
Regis is Omega and is holding tempiss hostage.

>> No.42879555
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Found this on the doxx site, wish some other schizos would elaborate more on the accusations

>> No.42879608

Kizuna AI raped and killed a girl in 1990.

>> No.42879675

>>42879465
>Vox got the dox
Didn't he basically do it to himself by being careless?

>> No.42879692

>>42879555
He's korean and lots of things point to him being Omega

>> No.42879872

>>42879692
i meant the minor/dog-fucking accusations, pretty much everything except the male to female accusation is what I was referring to because everyone is talking about that

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>>42879555

>> No.42880154

>>42879305
[Chuuba] fat lol

>> No.42881336

>>42879305
I impregnated your oshi

>> No.42883497
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>>42879305
The past 2 months have been wild man, every single company but idolEN and PRISM got their own huge shitstorms
Tsunderia's collapse and disbanding
Phase and the live NTR
Kawaii and their own Sio
Omegatranny and xir "support the cause"
Nijis and... a lot of stuff actually, pretty impressive how much shit they managed to stirr in such a short time span
The whole hogwarts saga hitting silvervale and pikamee
Pink cat calling pink bunny a pick me
Such a wild anime season

>> No.42885076

QRD on phase connect?

>> No.42886104

>>42879555
based doxxer kek

>> No.42886178

>>42879608
Yeah, me.

>> No.42886210

>>42879555
Altaresisters... Don't look...

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>>42879305
I forgor

>> No.42886314

>>42879555
nigga do you really have to ask for more clarification on a shitpost

>> No.42886382

>>42879555
I saw someone posting some shit last night about some twitter account that is tied to Omega somehow following a bunch of trans support shit or some other faggotry, and now people have somehow gotten to Altare is Omega or some shit.

>> No.42886439

>>42885076
Shit company(management, not talents) with shit CEO that needs to be stopped every now and then by massive outrages just to not do a dumb move(but he did sell legit real life lootbox as merch).
They are also balancing on the edge of being /here/-chuubas with "based" opinions (Pippa influence) VS just chill streamers that want to have fun but they are in the company (Tenma)

>> No.42886517

>>42885076
cuckconnect

>> No.42886521

>>42879555
Where did the dogfucking come from? Is this just cuz he's a gook? lol

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>>42879555
Guys, I think I know who nijigooner is.

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>>42879305
Cannot do. The tastiest rrrats always immediately gets you banned.

>> No.42887039

The implosion of NijiEN
>Yugo graduated
Yugo was hired for her huge PL numbers, but wanted to debut in the more popular male wave using a male model. She was really dumb, lazy, and worst of all couldn't even speak english. Yugo was frustrated with her manager and leaked discord messages of her getting grilled for her terrible numbers. Later she was graduated for being insolent to management. The first graduation in NijiEN.
>the cuckening
Kyo and Enna decided to hold a 1 on 1 offcollab in her bedroom. They held hands on stream, flipped off her fans, and laughed about them being cucks. Enna accumulated significant antis.
>AR Live cancelled
They had an AR Live concert planned, where everyone would be getting 3D models. Likely it was originally for Luxiem-only, they took nearly a month off filming it in Japan. But the other members felt that it should go in debut-order rather than preferring the most popular wave, so they probably demanded that everyone get 3D. This was too much to ask so the concert was cancelled 10 days after being announced. They all scheduled breaks to film for the concert, and when it was cancelled they took their breaks anyway as a form of protest. Because of this, right now NijiEN has almost nobody streaming.
>Secret GC stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs
Millie invited about 9-12 other NijiEN members to banter in an anonymous discord that was being filmed for stream. "Slumsaint" (almost certainly Enna) called out 4chan, and the entire stream became about mocking 4channers sounding incredibly asshurt the whole time. Later Millie said that people took the stream off the rails because they didn't read the rules. She took a break and hasn't streamed for 2 weeks now, she appears to be suspended.
>zaion suspended
The flagship talent of NijiEN's new XSoleil wave, she kept making yab moments on stream like joking about rape, endorsing piracy and not listening to management. She was suspended indefinitely and there's a huge uproar about it right now. Twitter is calling for her to be cancelled, while /pol/ is calling her based.
>Kyo runs away
He agreed with the anti-zaion haters and has been getting flamed for it, so now he's having ""internet issues"" and can't stream.
>Elira parasocial incident
It's a more minor drama, but NijiEN has been dealing with the issue of "parasocial fans" ever since the Kyo/Enna cucking. Enna repeatedly states that fans should not be parasocial with the streamer, a ridiculous concept. Elira copied her talking points and it caused a big outrage with her fans. This whole discussion about "parasocial fans" is weighing down NijiEN a lot.
>Vox doxxed
He is now suspending his streaming indefinitely and fleeing for his life from angry fans. Who knows when he'll return if he even does.
>Holo auditions
The only light at the end of the tunnel for NijiEN is that maybe some of them can transfer to Hololive. Unfortunately Anycolor has brutal non-compete contracts that might prevent them from doing this.

>> No.42887108

>>42879305
CRAZY drama
https://files.catbox.moe/8u9rqx.webm

>> No.42887273

>>42887039
>Likely it was originally for Luxiem-only, they took nearly a month off filming it in Japan. But the other members felt that it should go in debut-order rather than preferring the most popular wave, so they probably demanded that everyone get 3D. This was too much to ask so the concert was cancelled 10 days after being announced. They all scheduled breaks to film for the concert, and when it was cancelled they took their breaks anyway as a form of protest. Because of this, right now NijiEN has almost nobody streaming.
this is the only rrat thats actually believable

>> No.42887301

>>42887039
What a shitshow. It's like dominoes falling.

>> No.42887319
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>>42887039
You forgot about the chicken, homeboy

>> No.42887344

>>42886832
at least share the tiddies, pussy

>> No.42887479 [DELETED] 

>>42887344
If you don't know where to find Noel's tits, complete with the sneaky nipple slip, you are an incredibly tier of newfag.

>> No.42887541

>>42887319
Enna in general has so much fucking drama it's impossible to list in a single post

>> No.42887554

>>42887479
I've been on this board for well over a year now, I just stopped visiting the holo generals because they're cancer. I don't watch Hololive anymore anyway, I just wanted to see tits

>> No.42887600

>>42887554
None of this hurts your ability to know where to find Noel's tits, or riding a dildo or any of her other 3DPD e-whore shit.

>> No.42887649

>>42879305
Freshly baked yab >>42887477

>> No.42887696 [DELETED] 

>>42887344
Yeah no, I'm just occasionally posting and checking to see the newest rrrats. I don't want to deal with the retarded /vt/ moderation.

>> No.42887737

>>42887600
of course I can just dig through archives for them now that I know but I had no idea that she was actually a camwhore before. I never watched Noel outside of clips and I haven't frequented any Holo general in some time. call me a newfag or whichever buzzword you have on you

>> No.42887814

IRyS doxxed herself and her boyfriend

>> No.42887924

>>42879555
>getting this mad over vtubers

>> No.42887949

>>42887814
qrd?

>> No.42888051

>>42887649
KEK

>> No.42888142

>>42887649
Holo and Niji are complete trashfires and genuinely yab daily, how the fuck do people put up with those corpos?

>> No.42888237 [DELETED] 

>>42888142
Drama sells.

>> No.42888256

>>42888142
>immediately brings up hololive
Rent free

>> No.42888315

>>42887039
>The flagship talent of NijiEN's new XSoleil wave
zionists truly believe this
Genshin will never be flagship content in this branch faggots

>> No.42888339

>>42888315
In the lore videos she was the central character.

>> No.42888536

>>42887273
that's the dumbest rrat
you really think anycolor would just cave in to jealously?
>Oh no, our talents are angy & jealous lets do extra 11 models(obysidia, ethyria & noctyx) and fly them over to record and make them happy

The logical rrat is they set up a impossible deadline to meet and bandwagoned on a spike of covid cases to cancel the thing to a possible later date,
and is likely Anycolor will throw this AR Live as extra content for nijiFes at the end of the year

>> No.42888622

>>42886521
It's because he loves dog, had 3 dogs and one dog died by getting sufficated by a plastic bag while he was in his room playing overwatch like some mentally ill manchild streaming at his teammates while his dog died.

>> No.42888678

>>42888339
Lore videos are decided by the talents, but hell she ended up being nijien's bae just the same
>put as the most important in lore
>nowhere near the top in reality

>> No.42888721

>>42887737
Nta but you can literally just search it on Google and you'll find what you're looking for. It's no secret, not even one bit.

>> No.42888730

>>42879872
minor dogs are the best

>> No.42888760

>>42880154
Mori isn't fat you aboslute faggot!

>> No.42888887
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>>42879305
Pip has a boyfriend

>> No.42888976

>>42886565
is this real?

>> No.42889025

>>42888976
what do you think dumbass

>> No.42889065
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>>42886832
it's always funny when mods delete this here picrel

>> No.42889076 [DELETED] 

>>42888976
if it was this board would have literally exploded baka-kun

>> No.42889091

>>42888976
Why do you think Ayame gets silently suspended so often?

>> No.42889106

>>42889025
i want to believe

>> No.42889164

Kaneko Lumi revealed yesterday that she got groomed by a 26 year old pedophile when she was 14, IRL meeting and everything.

>> No.42889188

>>42889164
yeah me

>> No.42889205

>>42889164
these kinds of stories always seem to cast the blame on literally anybody but the person telling the story
she could've ghosted him any time, but chances are he was hot, then they fucked
she felt dirty, regretted it, and now called it grooming because she doesnt want to feel guilty

>> No.42889311

>>42889205
She didn't call it grooming. A lot of victims feel uncomfortable admitting they were groomed as teens out of shame. Also you're defending pedophiles

>> No.42889320

>>42889106
the world is rarely as based as we wish it to be

>> No.42889451 [DELETED] 

>>42889164
>Another random female telling the story of her being groomed by ___
This shit is getting old.

>> No.42889548

>>42889451
Maybe men should stop preying on children

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>>42888760
"Fat" is fatphobic now.
We exclusively use the term "robust".

>> No.42889603

>>42889548
Brats seducing adults need correction to grow into proper adults

>> No.42890069 [DELETED] 

>>42889548
>Believe all women
This shit is getting old too.

>> No.42890130

>>42889548
yes women can do no wrong
it must be all men, there is no doubt about it

>> No.42890218

>>42890069
still beats believing a pedo

>> No.42890229

>>42890130
this but unironically

>> No.42890327

>>42890130
We're not talking about women, we're talking about retarded teenagers getting abused by adult men. You are defending pedophiles

>> No.42890750

>>42889205
It's called grooming instead of flirting exactly because they're retarded enough at that age to go along with that stuff. She could have ghosted him, but teenage girls are all kinds of mentally fucked up.

>> No.42890873

>>42890750
>implying you're any less mentally fucked up when you grow up

>> No.42890977

>>42886832
You got a drive with those files? I'm retarded I can't seem to find them.

>> No.42891111

>>42890750
>girls attracted to attractive guys
>reciprocate flirting
>some ugly fuck gets jealous and calls it grooming
maybe try working on yourself

>> No.42891500

>>42888142
holos "drama" is someone saying something without considering others. Like Altroon/Omega telling that HL is not a good game to stream, because it is against his political views. And now look at all this nijisanji weekly mandatory dramas about doxx and cucking.
It is like news from 1st world vs 3rd world. Like "gay got fired from big corporation by boss that bullied him" vs "muslim terrorist tribe wiped entire christian city in the middle of africa"

>> No.42891560

>>42891111
Imagine being such a unsuccessful loser that no woman thinks you're any kind of relationship prospect and you have to go hunting for children who think being able to drive and not having a bedtime is impressive.

Just admit you're intimidated by any woman you don't have a power differential over.

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>>42890977 dubs
>>42891111 quads
>>42891500 dubs
in sequence

>> No.42891684

>>42887039
>>Yugo graduated
This guy's an ENTuber? I'm gonna barf. The absolute state of holorejects

>> No.42891781

>>42883497
>Phase NTR
what the fuck happened?

>> No.42892213

>>42888887
Yea me, actually nevermind

>> No.42892449

>>42887039
>Zaion
>Flagship
>Least subs of her wave
Let's not oversell her role here. And the parasocial downfall truly began with the Vox Reimu event.

>> No.42892908

>>42887319
Enna is walking pandora's box. There's so much horrible shit about her that a single thread wouldn't do a thing, and you think you do want to know about her, but you actually don't.

>> No.42892964

zaion is sex

>> No.42893765

>>42892908
Enlighten me anon, what horrible shit?

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>>42893765
All the stuff in pic related for starters.

In more general terms,
Enna has a superiority complex and a need to see herself as superior to other people. A lot of her mental and behavioral issues come from this.
1) Enna has a history of hating otaku (as she has said) and would ritualistically shit on them all the time in casual conversation. Because of this, she has absolutely zero respect for the anime community, or the vtubing community.
2) Enna was hired through nepotism, knows nothing about anime or vtubers, and is basically treating the entire job as a big joke. So she often ruins her coworkers kayfabe because she doesn't care enough to play a character. She only cares about using Nijisanji to promote her music career and meet music producers.
3) Enna is incredibly lazy. On her recent stream she told us that she dropped out of music school because it was too much work. Never puts in the effort to fix mistakes in her songs, and prefers to be lazy and scuffed. And she's extremely low-effort at her vtubing job. She streams less than anyone else in the branch and is often eating on stream and letting chat backseat her through everything.
4) Enna is a hypergamous female. In general she cozies up to males she thinks of as "strong" (Luca, Hex) and shits on males she thinks of as "weak" (Mysta, Ver). This is also why she loves shitting on her fans, because she sees them as fat otaku. The NTR collab arc with Kyo was simply her being malicious to the omega-males (her chat) while flirting with what passes for an alpha-male (Kyo).
5) Enna is incredibly narcissistic. She has constructed an entire narrative about herself supposedly being super poor and downtrodden and rising up to BTFO the haters. Because of this she tends to have a chip on her shoulder and get really spiteful when people try holding her to account for anything. And she chose the name 'slumsaint' because that's how she sees herself.

>> No.42894055

Remilia from PC is a racist Trump supporter:
https://youtu.be/Hvmwd27ZZEg?t=14525

>> No.42894172

>>42894055
she might get along with rosemi

>> No.42894431

>>42894001
Stuff like this is why I eventually just stopped watching Enna.
The Kyo stuff was the end of it.

>> No.42894449

>>42894001
So all in all, just a retard that needs to grow up, alright

>> No.42894910

>>42894055
Thanks, i'll give her a sub

>> No.42894999

>>42883497
>Pink cat calling pink bunny a pick me
Koyori called out Peko? wtf. spoonfed on this one

>> No.42895050

>>42894449
I wish anon, she's ruining the branch as a whole.
Pomu, Selen and others worked hard to build a reputation for NijiEN and that has been completely destroyed by drama-hungry people such as Enna. She's having a very bad influence on Millie and causing her downfall, and just generally dragging everyone down while she elevates herself.

>> No.42895110

>>42883497
>pink cat calling pink bunny a pickme
What happened? I don't see any reason for her to do that

>> No.42895146

>>42887039
I don't care about EN branch. Give me main branch aka NijiJP dramas.

>> No.42895599

>>42888142
>HoloEN and NijiEN
Fixed that for you

>> No.42895729

>>42888760
>Mori isn't fat
Ru fucking mao

>> No.42895826

>>42895599
What's the latest HoloEn yab? Hololive, not Holostars.

>> No.42895943

>>42894001
I actually read all that. How does she still have fans? Jesus.

>> No.42896007

>>42889311
Criticism of ethot and whore behaviors does not mean that anon is defending a groomer.

>> No.42896067

>>42895599
don't even PRETEND that HoloJP isn't imploding on itself as well kek

>> No.42896115

>>42892908
She's like the Mori of Niji but worse

>> No.42896287

>>42894055
I immediately subbed to her. Thanks for the Intel, anon.

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>>42891627
Fun fact - the girl in this gif is a former idol who cheated on her husband

>> No.42896413

>>42895050
Thank god Selen keeps herself drama free at least. One of the few in NijiEn that's actually watchable. I don't really watch Millie, never liked her at all. Her recent fuck ups have solidified that for me.

>> No.42896445

>>42896067
My oshi continues to have an excellent relationship with her Gen and she streams almost every single day. So I have not idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>> No.42896717

>>42887273
Believable?

The cuckening and Secret GC Stream happened live on stream... Its not rrat its actual facts.

>> No.42896966

>>42894001
And you are telling me that she still have fans anon...?!
Holy fk ppl rly can get away with anything if they have a cute avatar

>> No.42897008

>>42896067
Source: trust me bro

>> No.42897287

>>42879305
OP IS A FAGGOT is what I've found

>> No.42897572

>>42896115
Mori is pretentious dumbass with her own retarded moments, but unlike Enna who drags everybody down, she is fun to watch and is decent entertainer.

>> No.42897757

>>42895110
>I don't see any reason for her to do that
You think nyanners needs a reason to start shit?

>> No.42898049

>>42894001
>1) Enna has a history of hating otaku (as she has said) and would ritualistically shit on them all the time in casual conversation. Because of this, she has absolutely zero respect for the anime community, or the vtubing community.
enna IS an otaku, to the point she went to japan to work as an english teacher. her "hatred" of otaku culture is purely ironic, but you have a single-digit IQ so all of that has gone over your head.
>2) Enna was hired through nepotism, knows nothing about anime or vtubers,
she was a vtuber long before corporate EN tubing existed
>3) Enna is incredibly lazy. On her recent stream she told us that she dropped out of music school because it was too much work. Never puts in the effort to fix mistakes in her songs, and prefers to be lazy and scuffed. And she's extremely low-effort at her vtubing job. She streams less than anyone else in the branch and is often eating on stream and letting chat backseat her through everything.
music school is a waste of time. she doesn't produce her own songs. she's always said she's not a gamer so backseating is OK
>4) Enna is a hypergamous female. In general she cozies up to males she thinks of as "strong" (Luca, Hex) and shits on males she thinks of as "weak" (Mysta, Ver). This is also why she loves shitting on her fans, because she sees them as fat otaku. The NTR collab arc with Kyo was simply her being malicious to the omega-males (her chat) while flirting with what passes for an alpha-male (Kyo).
she's a chinese femcel. vtuber fans in general are fat otaku that deserve scorn. kyo is not an alpha male
>5) Enna is incredibly narcissistic. She has constructed an entire narrative about herself supposedly being super poor and downtrodden and rising up to BTFO the haters. Because of this she tends to have a chip on her shoulder and get really spiteful when people try holding her to account for anything. And she chose the name 'slumsaint' because that's how she sees herself.
she literally worked in retail and fast food for nearly a decade of her life

>> No.42898266

>>42898049
she wont fuck you bro

>> No.42898443

>>42898049
>enna IS an otaku, to the point she went to japan to work as an english teacher.
How does this "prove" she's an otaku exactly??

>> No.42898629

>>42898049
>to japan to work as an english teacher.

>she literally worked in retail and fast food for nearly a decade of her life

How old is she exactly...? If we are to believe this is all true I mean...
I'm fairly certain you'd need some proper education to be hired as a teacher in Japan and not just "im american trust me bro I can teach"

>> No.42898739

>>42897572
Not recently. Mori has been dragging ass and hasn’t had an entertaining stream for awhile now. Just the new outfit

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>>42894055
https://files.catbox.moe/g6qrcx.mp4

>> No.42899335

>>42895110
>I don't see any reason for her to do that
She's a woman

>> No.42899630

>>42895110
tldr
>Pippa expressed interest in being frens with Nyanners
>Nyanners calls her Pickme Pippa in one of her streams as a way to tell her to fuck off
>Pippa tries to play it off as a joke

>> No.42899676

>>42899630
Well if anyone knows Pickme behavior it'd be Nyanners.

>> No.42899780

>>42899676
That's why it's funny. Classic case of a pot calling the kettle black

>> No.42900208

>>42899630
That's actually really funny. But isn't pickme a pretty low-tier insult? It doesn't seem that bad. Was Pippa very offended?

>> No.42900343

>>42894172
Elaborate

>> No.42900462

>>42900208
>Like I said, she tried to play it off as a joke in one of her streams. But we wouldn't really know what she really feels about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZwB1WFvgWs
Link for reference

>> No.42900509

>>42900462
Oh fuck it's not supposed to be greentext but yeah that's about it

>> No.42903229 [DELETED] 

Bump

>> No.42904431

>>42891781
Nothing crazy, just faggots making drama out of anything. Lia was doing an ASMR segment, male friend ruined the moment by jumping in on discord. Faggot orbiter probably felt insecure that she was getting a bunch of dudes horny. Regardless, people got mad because experience ruined by dude voice. Proceed to spergout. She cried and apologized (more than once). Some faggots still can't let it go. Just as many such cases...

>> No.42904555

>>42879555
I find the doxx site very weird. They are fine with doxxing every single talent under the sun but all of their "boards(?)" are so fucking sensitive every time you say something even slightly bad about a chuuba that it feels like you are on Reddit. It's like a /vt/ for snowflakes.

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Reminder that enna is a deadbeat

>> No.42905171

>>42883497
>Pink cat calling pink bunny a pick me
I was hoping the grifter vs grifter cagematch would last a little longer desu

>> No.42905174

>>42895943
A bunch of chinese femcels took a look at her and thought "she's just like me frfr"

>> No.42905331

>>42887039
>zaion
>flagship talent
it's crazy how many people are trying to spin the narrative and act like zaion wasn't just another shitter. Even a day before she got suspended people in the NijiEN general were talking about how uninteresting she was and why she wasn't gaining an audience.

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>>42888976

>> No.42905604

>>42905382
she didn't say this, nice photoshop though

>> No.42905717

>>42887039
It is funny when japanese think that westerners can handle being entertainers without yabbing it up.

>> No.42905927

>>42900208
For some reason women feel very insulted by it, I don't know why because pick me girl sounds better than drop me girl as the later tells you she is not worth picking right off the gate

>> No.42905968

>>42904431
>downplaying it
I hope you enjoy her february 14th stream bro

>> No.42906099

>>42905604
I know you're kidding but here.
https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1491027855891132417

>> No.42906479

>>42898629
>he doesn’t know
about the JET program

>> No.42907116

>>42905717
any girl that is catering to guys too openly creates a pressure on the rest of the girls to follow suit, starting a race to the bottom. it's like an unregulated market in which a group of competing (but cooperating behind the scenes) firms agree to keep the price above a certain threshhold and then one of them starts underselling the rest of them.

except the cooperation is based on evolved insinct in a sex that because of lower physical prowess was/is more reliant on playing the social game competently

>> No.42909284

>>42896966
>You must be at least 18 to post on this site

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