/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42851649
Come home

>>42851649
IdolJP?

i feel bad for whoever ends up dealing with her

>>42851649
Who?

I will jealous for whoever ends up dealing with her

>>42851649
That bitch wants to destroy another company?

>>42851649
Its her freedom (funeral)

She's just doing both personas to maximize merch

I mean she's pretty much just segregated with K-Son on her own. I'm pretty sure her and K-Son both realized they got the short end of the stick with this contract.

>>42851649
god she must be having fucking nightmares over how badly she fucked up. probably cries herself to sleep every night too

>>42852045
noooo you can't do two things you can only do one thing

>>42852139
how do you retards manage to write her name in these bizarre ways all the time
if i wrote P-Ekora or AMelia or GURA everyone would think i'm fucking mentally handicapped

>>42851649
she's gonna join and get terminated from every vtuber group on the screen, leaving behind a trail of disaster each time, she can do it I believe in her

Who will adopt this cute menhera? Be a man.

>>42852170
h-hot

You guys do know shes allowed to be in two companys right?

>>42852045
Vshojo can pull Nendos?
Jesus, why aren't they releasing more members?

>>42852488
Only Nyan, Mouse, and now the Japs got Nendos. Maybe Vei, I don't remember.

>>42852488
westerns(vshojo fans) prefer funkos

>>42851985
>Oh no, think of le poor billionaire company!
Kill yourself Covertranny
You will never work for, or get paid from Hololive.

>>42852371
you realise non-compete clauses are a thing and are common right

>>42852170
don’t worry, Kaon is always there to fuck the menhera out of her

>>42852371
Why would she be allowed to work at two companies if she can't do the job properly at one?

>>42851649
She should join Laplus' roommate's idol group.

>>42851649
she should team up with Delta
oh wait

>>42851884
Ru is okay as long as there's someone tard wrangling her

>>42852295
It's a retarded ass name to start with .

>>42851772
NO, don't let her back in
sane t.holofag

The translation isn't quite accurate, she isn't saying she wants to join an idol group - she's saying she wants to 'do' and idol group i.e. make an idol group herself. That's why she's asking if there's any indie vtubers out there who would want to join her.

>>42853016
lmfao that's even worse, imagine having her as your boss

>>42852886
she had the best tard wranglers in the industry (what a depressing statement, considering they're nowhere near perfect) and still fucked it up

>>42853016
literally laplus

>>42851649
Who does she even have as a friend to do this with? Asking MKNK fans. Wish her the best of luck.

>>42852488
Only the popular girls and JP get merch. You’re shit out of luck if you’re Silver, Zen and whatnot

why Festival can be big menhera but still somehow professional enough but Rushia can't

>>42853482
because unlike Matsuri, Rushia is an actual femcel with genuine mental illness, not just a menhera in the 'woman with a bitchy personality and mood swings' kind of way

>>42852582
Nyan, Mouse, and now Kson + Nazuna have nendos. Nyan and Vei have Pop up Parade figures too.

>>42853482
Rushia is a bigger menhera than Matuli, and it's not the "haha funny" kind of menhera.
She's legitimately mentally ill.

>>42853972
menhera are the best

>>42851649
If she can find a JP group to take her in that's where she belongs; if she leveled up her English game drastically she could have contemplated other choices but nah she's kind of hardlocked as a JP I think.

>>42851649
>blacklisted so hard not a single japanese company wants to touch this turd

I will do anything for wife.

>>42851649
is that allowed to be part of two separate groups at the same time? or is she gonna possibly leave Vshojo so soon

>Kson and VShojo go out of their way to help her out when nobody else would
>They even give her a Kagura Nana model
>She neglects her Nazuna account and starts trying to create another group
I feel kinda bad for them but it's kinda funny

>>42851649
Yes Mike, but please take marketing and anger management courses first before becoming the fucking CEO of a V-tuber group...

>>42855491
VShojo have easily made their money back on Nazuna considering she's already had several pieces of merch come out
I'm sure they're crying all the way to the bank

>>42855470
If the other company allows TALENT FREEDOM as much as VShojo does then yes it would be allowed. Ironmouse just joined UTA a couple of weeks ago.

>>42853972
while that maybe true but i don't think Matuli is "haha funny" kind of menhera, some of her yab could end up badly for her if she keep fighting with her haters and troll further escalating the drama, she mostly just tweet some rant on different account and then shut her mouth, it maybe easy for normal person but not for menhera because they are easy to get triggered

>>42851649
Eh, you won't be the craziest girl I've hired

>>42853130
you're a funny guy, tell me another joke

PLEASE Vshojo just add new members holy shit. JP are lonely..
Snuffy too man, she's friends with almost every one of your members, she did your retarded application, she's in so many fucking official artworks and newfags always think she's already in. Just add her already dude.

>>42856284

>>42856068
just say you're retarded newfag

>>42852295
Everyone already thinks that

>>42853735
>Rushia is an actual femcel
No she's not. She has had multiple real boyfriends. She just pretends to be a femcel to fit in with the men she panders to.

>>42856328
if the en managers are the ones looking for members then I'm not surprised it's taking this long. if kson is really in charge then I expect it to still take a long time

>>42856768
>multiple
Reps

>>42855491
Kson maybe but i just feel like vshoujo has a hate boner for holo and will do anything to "own" them there was definitely some I'll intent involved in hiring her just after she was fired

>>42856182
I think management polices her hard she did mention it on her RM once

>>42858520
They all look up to or support hololive the only one that could have a hateboner is vei.

>>42858940
I assume he means the management side and not the vtubers themselves.
Honestly all of the VShojo girls have been really nice to Nazuna. If anything, the one that has caused the most problems is Kson
I think the other girls idolize Nazuna but are also a little afraid of dealing with her, which isn't the worst, but it is what it is

>>42857331
You're the one who needs to do reps.

>>42859475
I've already done them.
You're free to prove me wrong, though

>>42851649
Manjisanji's Yagoo would surely hire her.

>>42858626
iirc even as Matuli she also implying that management kinda specifically told her to behave way back then, well the only thing that matters is if she listen or not, seems like Matuli did

>>42859647
Explain how she hasn't had any boyfriends, rep-doer.
She is the source to 4 of those boyfriends.

>>42859790
>4
Oh, you're that faggot. Yeah, I've looked over that evidence already and your number is inaccurate.
Also this is blatant doxx which is against board rules

>>42860042
What blatant doxx? You faggots have a mikeneko thread and defend posting IRL images of her.
She has had multiple boyfriends and there's nothing you can do to disprove that.

>>42860152
Mikeneko is a vtuber. She's on topic

>>42856314
Who has the best tard wrangler, then?

>>42860393
IRL pics are not on topic. Saying Mikeneko is a femcel is not on topic either and if it is then so is saying that she had multiple boyfriends.

>>42860692
>IRL pics
Good thing we don't post them in the thread then
>multiple boyfriends
Lying is a sin and it makes baby Jesus cry

>>42860836
Who's "we"? You made several catalog threads with her IRL pics and defended the existence of those threads.
>Lying is a sin
The Mikeneko is a sinner. She said she had been in relationship with at least two niconico douga streamers. You not liking this information does not make it untrue or doxx or anything else.

>>42858520
Or they all like her and want to be friends with her. Stop projecting so much.

>>42852295
It’s cause the k in KSON is pronounced like the letter
If Gura was pronounced geerah then maybe people might spell it that way

>>42860982
>he thinks M***bump was her Twitter
Yikes

You can take the menhera from Idol company, but you can't take the idol company from the menhera

>>42861319
It was her twitter, schizo. Someone else using that handle years later doesn't suddenly make it not hers.

IRL discussion is on-topic and allowed if I like it, says the janny.

>>42860982
>everyone I dislike is the same guy
Meds

>>42861462
When did I ever imply there's just one of you?

Vshojo doesn't care what Mike does on the side. She can start her own idol group if she wants. Which is what she's saying she wants to do in the tweet. If she ends up doing more as Mike instead of Nazuna she'll just end up like Hime, and we all know how that went. Hime is still employed.

>>42861447
That is the actual weakest excuse I've ever heard
On top of that, the convos posted to it were obviously fake.
There's a reason that shithole of a website is the only place that takes it seriously.

Do people actually think she's a virgin? lol, lmao even.

Sorry, but the VShojo brand is clearly toxic to the JP bros and sisters. It's ogre, pink cat.

>>42861603
You have it the wrong way around. Who wants to work with her?

>>42851649
Flickering her bean!?

>>42861602
Yeah I'm absolutely sure that Mike "I dated Mahoto Watanabe" neko had loads of antis trying to paint her as a non-virgin 10 years ago when she herself straight up admitted having relationships.
Let's for the sake of your fragile sanity say it wasn't her twitter. That still leaves her with at least two boyfriends. How will you cope with those?

>>42861603
Hime isn't employed by Vshojo.
Hime employs Vshojo to create and sell her merch.

>>42861804
Leech.

>>42862055
>fragile sanity
There's a tweet going all the way back to 2013 replying to that account wishing her a happy birthday on the 2nd January
That isn't Mike's birthday.

>>42853265
>girls
>Zen

>>42862055
You'll never be able to convince these dudes.
They've sunk thousands of dollars into her.

>>42851649
>Inb4 IdolJP 1st gen
Because unfortunately there is no other way for her to get a shot in another corpo when you're essentially shadowbanned in the JP business scene for breaking an NDA.

Glad to see dox posts are allowed to stay up as long as they're not about the jannies favourites.

>>42852488
Goodsmile decides on which characters to licence based on demand. If you want them to know there is a demand for a character you can go to their website and fill out the request form.

https://www.goodsmile.support/en/productrequest_en/

I wondered why that schizo stopped replying.
Kek. Also he is full of shit. I hope you tourists got the message already?

>>42851649
should have gone to the sad girl company instead of vshitshow

>>42856328
>Snuffy too man, she's friends with almost every one of your members
considering the uproar when haruka sold out to vshojo, snuffy being the next would really seal the deal of the auditions being absolutely a scam

The message is to not argue with cuckifami as they will get you banned for triggering them.
Only "positive doxx" is allowed.

nice thread
it brings me back to one year ago

>>42851649
So what was she doing with that man? It has been over a year now and nobody is still allowed to say it.

Obligatory post for Rukeks

>>42853130
She just needs a good boyfriend, like me

She should just ask Yagoo to let her back in and that she's really sorry, the worst he could say is no

>>42866480
this is funnier

Rushia is still a idol and has never left though

I still think it's amazing how they advertised a whole JP branch and acted like they were seriously accepting auditions, then it just turned out to be a scam to try and leech off Hololive

>>42867151
TALENT FREEDOM!

>>42867068
kek what the fuck

>>42867068
Now this is schizophrenia

>>42864480
The auditions fucking ended in 2021. It's been a year and 5 months.
They should probably just tell everyone it didn't work out. Then add snuffy.

>>42866480
hey this comic ends in a happy-ish note at least

>>42866480
that's genuinely pretty sad

>>42867068
My god, that's pathetic

>>42867151
Vshojo never once actually considered any auditions

>>42858520
I thought that was just silver and Vei

>>42851772
this made me laugh, thanks anon

Do you think she feels regret for what she's done?

>>42867068
God I can feel the heartbreak.

>>42869279
I think there was a suicide attempt when Holofes was announced.

>>42869279
I'm out of the loop, wtf did she do?

Do you think HoloFes is living in her head?

>>42868660
They pick up any leftovers that has an existing fanbase.

>>42870503
Absolutely. I'd bet every single holo 3DLive lives rent free in her head

>>42870365
mfx2 discord message on a collab with miko
ran off to dramatubers to leak company info and prove shes innocent
breaks NDA by doxxing cover employees
doxxes flare
terminated
spends months suing random people and wasting money
kson being a saviorfag tells vshojo to pick her up since no nip company will pick up a NDA breaking menhera that will leak company info and dox employees without a second thought
vshojo gives her a ultimatum that she has to join too, accepts, is stuck with babysitting a retarded menhera, wants to kill herself
<We are here> tweet in the OP

>>42870503
Holofes and that shit sankisei concert I bet

>>42870736
>doxxes flare

Why would you lie like that

>>42851649
VShojoJp arent getting new members then?

>>42871075
NTA, but even if that were an embellishment I don't think it changes much.

>>42871075
if I wanted to lie I would have skip the flare part entirely

>>42869730
>>42867458
It trended a bit. Mike had a week long stomach ache and was extra depressed at the same time so chances are she never saw it.

>>42871201
I wouldn't be surprised if VShojo is on a blacklist in the JP vtubing mainstream.

>>42870611
I thought she was over having karaokes after hololive lives and singing some of the same songs.

Seeing everyone in Hololive making inroads, and knowing she was once a part of it all, only for her journey to be cut short. In her eyes it really musta been a fall from heaven. Wish 'er luck if she tries to chase dat V-idol dream again somehow but she's gunna need someone that can keep her from spazzing out

>>42861032
Anon they cant even communicate with her.

>>42870865
That Sankisei live really set the bar low for chuuba lives. To think people ME…. paid for that shit.

>>42853016
will she be able to find 47 other menhera indies to form MHR48?

>>42866601
Mafumafu is /here/ HOLY SHIT what an honor ! !

Why does Mikeneko get shat on endlessly but not Kson who got away with far worse?

>>42877488
You failed at comprehending that post so badly that you ended up insulting mafumafu instead of mikeneko

>>42877860
Feb 2021 tourists never left

>>42870736
Almost all of that is lies made up by Flips trawling JP sites for dirt. Rushia never doxed Flare or any Cover employee, literally just hearsay. All we know is that she showed Kore messages on her discord between herself and Mafu, that's it.

>spends months suing random people and wasting money
This isn't a bad thing. She caught one of them and hopefully he kills himself

>>42877860
Zhang hands typed this

>>42877860
There's a flip discord who hates Rushia as the embodiment of why JP is better than EN.

>>42851772
kek, that's not Coco. Cover kicked her out

>>42852611
I hope you realize that a company contains more than just the owner and management. What happened to the rest of the girls in the company she first collapsed? Exactly.

>>42853016
She should contact Laplus. They were only coworkers for 3 months so there is no chance she's the one who bullied rushia. Even if Laplus returns to Holo anyway, her antis are just as deranged as rushia's (might be the same hololive fans too>>42853016
considering how soon they attacked rushia's termination)

>>42851649
Vshoujo knows Mikeneko is a fucking retard, even if she does make a company is not gonna work anyways, so don't worry senpai, Vshoujo has everything under control. They know this retard vtuber can't do anything right

>>42870865
And then you realize the sankisei concert is the last paid live rushia did, way to leave a legacy behind

>>42871921
Imagine being Mikeneko's handler, sitting behind her when she streams, and getting to cover her mouth when she's being retarded...

>>42856328
You know, you'd think they would be on their 3rd or 4th batch of ENs by now, with several more JPs and maybe a few IDs added to the mix. Not to mention they're the ONE corpo that has a chance at making a proper ES branch given all the latinian chuubas who idolize mouse.

>>42880271
Yes anon they fired rushia because she got a discord message whatever you say

>>42867068
No this one

>>42856328
I think VShojo is literally a pump and dump project for the corps and now that the vtuber bubble is shrinking they're trying to cut out and sell the company so it's been scaled back from the huge first year it had.

>>42883120
>I think VShojo is literally a pump and dump project
i think you got vshojo mixed up with your mom

>>42853972
All successful chuubas are mentally ill.

>>42883120
Eh, not really. Mid last year was probably their biggest point of actually trying.

>>42851649
Too big a notoriety to be an idol.

>>42851649
Next Meme

>>42852859

>>42852725
Isn’t she like a decade older than those girls?

>>42885418
So is Lui.

>>42851772
First post worst post

>>42851649
guess there's not much freedom in vhojo

>>42851649
can anyone verify this? There's no timestamp or date, so either it existed and is deleted or never existed in the first place

Wild idea : One of you should create an 'idol' company and start hiring girls like her.
You can probably make a good amount of bucks with all the incoming drama coming your way.

>>42886785
It's real. Check their thread.

>>42851649
Whats going on with VShojojp?

>>42888770
nothing
unironically nothing, they have 2 employees and neither stream often recently

>>42890092
kson streamed 7 hours yesterday and has 3 streams planned today but ogey

>>42853735
That’s hot

>>42855765
Did vshojo even fund that model? I thought the talents funded their own model and the corpo funded merchandising. At one point corp only took a cut from merch sales as well, not subs/donations

>>42888770
like the other guy said there's nothing going on with the jp side. kson is busy with her own stuff which leaves nazuna with nobody to talk to. they talked about wanting to get more jp members but I don't expect much to happen

>>42891258
>they talked about wanting to get more jp members
that would require vshojo to actually recruit people not just wait for bigtime streamers to fall on hard times

>>42891393
they don't want 2views like you in their group, get over it

The impression I always got from her in vshojo is that she's like an exotic animal in a zoo. It's hard not to feel a little bad for her.

>>42892258
It has been like that ever since the vshojo JP announcement with her voice.
They have no appreciation for who she is and only care about the fact that she's ex-holo that they "poached".

>>42866480
>>42867068
You now remember a guy with Rushia's wedding ring. God, i hope he recovered from that.

>>42868660
They just pick someone already do some number and leech of it

>>42893120
>All those spelling errors
Holy ESL Batman!

>>42851649
IDOLS ARE EVIL VSHOJO DONT DO IDOLS

>>42893291
mouse and nazuna are idols
and vshojos fine with idols

>>42893291
Anon ... are you living under a rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzodvcvUxbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrvbLKLyGkU&t=2163s

>>42893657
His argument is irrelevant though.
Mikeneko has nothing to do with VShojo. Nazuna is the person contract with them
Even if VShojo hated idols, they have literally no power to stop what Mikeneko does because they're not involved with anything on that side.

>>42893735
Holos shouldn't even be caled idols when this kind of quality exists

>>42893735
who did the mocap for mouse? isnt she bedridden and shit?

>>42893949
The same person that did mocaps for a lot of hololive concerts including Marine's Trrasure Box.
Hololive just keeps losing their contacts to Vshojo lol

>>42851772
why you already fired her

>>42893949
Realistically I'd think it's the someone from the choreographer team, because they are usually professional dancers as well.

>>42893949
It's in the credits for the show, she also thanked her several times. Name is わた Wata. iirc she did Mori's dancing at her concert and a few other hololive girls. The songs weren't sang one after the other, it was prerecorded.

>>42851649
kek

>>42852582
Zen is getting a model but I don’t remember who’s making it

>>42858520
>vshoujo has a hate boner for holo
More like the opposite

>>42899158
yeah, most of vshojo are admitted fans of several of the holos. Honestly I'm having trouble thinking of one that isn't.

>>42899559
Nazuna isn't.

>>42899918
Mikeneko mentioned on stream back in October that she still watches Holo streams
And some of her Nazuna game choices make far more sense when you realise that she's been watching Pekora

>>42899918
Is she even allowed to?

>>42900170
She's allowed to watch Holo streams, yes? Cover aren't going to go to her house to switch off her internet if she's watching Pekora
Collab? No, likely not. Closest you'll get is a collab with Holo RMs. She's a mutual follow of Choco-sensei's RM

>>42900292
I meant say anything about it

>>42900601
Probably not on Nazuna.
She's more free on Mikeneko to say what she wants.
She's also made anti tribalfag tweets before, which I'm surprised didn't piss off the /vt/sisters.

>>42900658
She literally tweeted にじさんじしか勝たん when Salome was the hot new thing

>>42851649
Fucking menhera prime...you were in one...the best one around in fact.

>>42900735
Yeah, she did. And then afterwards, she tweeted about how she doesn't decide which vtubers to watch based on what company they come from because she just likes vtubers in general.

>>42900735
>>42900912
>Vtuberさん全体が好きなので最近気持ちが落ちた時や作業してる時色んなVtuberさんみてます◎どこの事務所!とかじゃなくて、Vtuberさんはみんな可愛いんだ( ๑'𖥦')>
She tweeted that the day aftewards. If you're going to play a game of posting her deleted Tweets, why not post the full scenario?

>>42862689
Ah so t3mpus getting a guild set confirmed then. POPULAR DEMAND

>>42881960
>so there is no chance she's the one who bullied rushia
>bullied rushia
>believing

>>42901141
Yeah she definitely did not post that because people were laughing at her clearly being mad at hololive.
Next you will tell me that Cover lied in their statement about her firing and that she never had any problems with other hololive talent because she said so later in her damage control statement.

>>42901376
Why are you inventing positions for me to hold and then asking me to defend them? You're deranged. If you're going to read so much into her tweets, how do you explain her hard-working rabbits tweet which was so obviously about her watching Pekora right around HoloFes?
>うさぎが大好きすぎてうさぎカフェに行きたいな。兎に角かわいい、そして性格がいい、やさしい、頑張り屋、純粋、うさぎさんは幸せにしてくれる生き物大好き
Do you understand what a strawman is?

>>42881960
>Even if Laplus returns to Holo anyway
I've been out of the loop regarding holo for the past couple months due to college, did something happen to La+? Did she do some shit like Rushia?

>>42901497
Pandering to holo fans.
How do you explain her shit talking hololive when talking to korekore?

>>42900735
>>42901376
>>42901622
Keyfags, you guys get the most deranged spergs.

>>42856353
Based chocolate indie.

>>42901573
She's on hiatus for mental health reasons.

Rushia antis really are some of the most deranged, bitter, cynical and persistent antis I've ever come across on this board

>>42902010
>Rushia antis
Yes, starting with rushia herself

Rushia fans are some of the most delusional ones on the whore board. You can tell them an outright lie and they will accept is as the truth if they like it enough. They will then spend hours shitposting autistically to defend that lie if anyone tries to tell them that they've been lied to.

>>42902213
You're trying to wage war with an entire fanbase. You're in no position to call anyone else delusional.

>>42902280
>wage war
Dude shat the fuck? I just made a post on 4channel.org
Looks like I was completely right in calling you delusional.

>>42902213
>Rushia
>whore board
kek

>>42902361
>a post
Are you a different person from the guy currently sperging about..her watching Nijisanji vtubers?
Because that guy is a well known Rushia anti who has been making posts like these since the yab last year. A year long anti who has spent hundreds of hours annoying us.
If you're not him, obviously I'll retract the comment.

>>42902213
They are the second most delusional fanbase. The holodrones who still dont understand that they fell for the most obvious pr narrative and continue to shit on the Rushia take the crown.

>>42902470
What PR narrative? We could all see the shit she had been saying to korekore.
Also most """holodrones""" are completely oblivious to her being a bitch and want her back.

Don't argue with the Rushiaschizo, he's just desperate for (Yous) and his entire existence is based around hating a Japanese girl.
He got BTFOd when someone called him out and now he's going full damage control and trying to timeloop
If you want to respond to him, just post Rushibutt instead.

>>42902463
I don't give a shit about your judgement lol
You are delusional and you can say I am "waging war" as much as you want as that's expected behavior from you.

>>42899158
>implying Holos care enough about Vshojo to hate them
most of them don't even know about them lol

>>42902547
What she said relating to Cover to korekore was barely anything. The drama was bad, Rushia had become detrimental to the company. It was affecting other talents and their income. Holofes was coming up. Her minor breach of contract was used to resolve the situation. It was easier and more beneficial to just get rid of her to regain the trust of their supporters and send the hate after her than keeping her around and dealing with that.

>>42902789
POV: you are mafumafu and your gift is anal

>>42902877
>batshit insane schizo conspiracy theory
And you "people" still pretend to not hate hololive.

fancucks are free to believe whatever they want to believe. it won't change the fact that this whore is no longer a part of Hololive

>>42867841
Wasn't it drawn by Rushia's character designer?

>>42902868
No you dumbass vshojo girls like the holos

>>42903098
>batshit insane schizo conspiracy theory
Business is not rocket science. It was clear as daylight even before their second statement. Just because you could not properly comprehend it does not mean others couldn't either.
But sure, the rrats without any proof whatsoever are more likely than an unbiased analysis.

>>42903363
If she did literally nothing how the fuck was she detrimental to their business? How was she affecting other talents at all?

>>42903454
She wasn't.
Read Cover's original statement. People weren't just harassing Rushia over the incident, they were going into the streams of other Hololive girls and harassing them over it. That's why Cover stated that they would crack down on people who were attacking Rushia and the other talents in relation to it

>>42903454
It wasn't what she did as in the leak, the drama itself was causing the damages. She was their 'pure' flagship, you must not have paid a lot of attention to the Japanese twitter during the drama. Not the shitposters but the twitter of Holo fans. Plenty were crying for her termination because of it and not just Rushia fans, after all if their flagship can't be trusted the others can't be either. Their first statement was an attempt to calm things done but to also give themselves more time to observe the situation for a risk assessment. Things didn't, they got worse by the day and, unironically, the hilarious twitter fuckup translation was very likely the final nail in the coffin. Those who spoke in her defense and would stop supporting Cover if she was fired were outnumbered by those who would leave if she was to stay by a large margin.

>>42902547
She bitched about an anonymous person at her work to him. That's the big leak they fired her over.

>>42903825
The leak was just used as a means to an end.

>>42903811
nta, so you were saying they fired her because she got caught interacting with male and that tainted their brand and also affecting other talent because she was their "pure" flagship ?

>>42903825
sure, lets ask Flare about it

Reminder what Holoniggers will begin to hate even Watame if she decided to leave company

>>42903986
I sure hope that’s not what he’s trying to say considering cover literally put out a statement defending that

>>42903986
Not getting caught but "getting caught" leading to damages. That is the major reason, and is backed up by their 2nd statement. They just attached the damages the drama had to the leak to create the narrative that resolved all their problems.

>>42904002
Why? Neither she nor anyone else is allowed to talk in specifics about her firing.

>>42903675
>>42903811
>more schizo conspiracy bullshit

>>42903825
That's not all she leaked but that bit is enough to show that she was malicious.

>>42851772
this but for coco.

>>42904121
Yet they don't hate Aloe. What is your schizo explanation for that?

>>42904426
Mel leaked more information about her manager than Rushia did.

>>42904469
Yea they do lol

>>42904504
There's no proof that Mel ever leaked anything. You don't even know what happened and just quote /vt/ posters.

>>42904534
Show me holo fans attacking Aloe then.

>>42904570
Well we know that someone told Narukami about Mel's situation.
It's true that nobody knows if it was Mel or not, but clearly someone on the inside leaked it.

>>42851772
why would yagoo even want her to come back when he kicked her out and didnt even try sugarcoating it, makes no sense

>>42904426
>depressed, insomniac, lonely and overworked woman
>is denied to take off even half a day to mourn and process the loss of her cat
>contacts dramatuber during a bipolar breakdown
>last interaction was her threatening to sue him for defamation
>refuses to give details or names and just wants him to put out the message so all those who had wronged her would feel guilty for driving her to this madness
I don't condone it but I can understand it. Calling that malicious is ridiculous.

>>42904328
That anon is one of those retarded pushing the "she doxxed Flare" rrat.
Keep in mind that there is no basis for this at all. Not even the usual schizo shit. It's literally just
>Flare seemed annoyed
>therefore Rushia doxxed her
The main reason I feel people push it is that they're willing to believe anything bad about Rushia because it fits their narrative.

>>42904703
In a sense, it's far less malicious than what this particular schizo has been doing by making it his life's mission to shit on her anonymously for the last year straight.
Pot calling the kettle black, staring into the abyss, etc.

>>42904601
I don't have 2 year old screenshots handy, but one of the reasons 5ch hated Aloe was that they felt she was a bad fit for Hololive.
I thought this was pretty common knowledge?

>>42904179
the only damages that affect other talent is her being not trustworthy by going to drama channel like krkr, if a company keep someone like that it could affect sponsorship for the company, the damage from her drama only affect her fanbase, people who still trust or giving her second chance will keep support them and people who feel betrayed either leave her quietly or become her anti

>>42904811
Ohhh so 5ch are hololive fan representstives now. That means all hololive fans hate Laplus.

>>42904899
What does that have to do with anything? This is a Mikeneko bait thread

>>42904179
This tip-toeing is hilarious
>she was fired for damaging hololive's 'pure' brand!
>but she didn't get caught doing snything bad!
>her purity wasn't ACTUALLY compromised

>>42851772
>Invite her into the cover offices
>Slap her with an empty glove, spit on her
>Have the armed android guards escort her out

>>42904997
Mikeneko antis are actually retarded, they'll eat up anything
I saw a big anti post about her gaining traction and one thing they accused her of what getting fat. This woman is about 5-7kg underweight. People here were insulting her calling her a skeleton
Are you sure you want to use these people as a source of reference?

>>42904884
That is not true. Literally the opposite was happening. Other members were financially affected by it. Mutual or exclusive fans of other girls were demanding refunds for merch of other talents, were unsubscribbing, etc. They also suffered financial loss indirectly by the antis shitting up their chat for example.

>>42904703
She was never overworked and she was demanding the cancellation of an entire live venue concert over a dead cat.
>>last interaction was her threatening to sue him for defamation
Yeah just like in 2019 and it ended with her palling around with him once more.

>>42851797
NO WE DON'T WANT HER HERE

>>42905183
>Mikeneko antis hate cats
I always knew you guys were sociopaths

>>42904961
Does 5ch represent hololive fans or not? Also I think it's about time you admit that you hate hololive.

>>42905231
I personally don't care for Cover's management or staff. They've caused issues for the other Holomen too, whether it be from cancelling projects or other acts of incompentence.
I still think fondly about all of the Hololive talents.

>>42904997
You fail to understand the differences. To put it simply for you, if something is too big to be swept under the rug, what is the solution? You discard it.

>>42905102
Umm anon you are calling your fellow mikecuck a mikeneno anti lmao

>>42905310
That guy is literally trying to imply that she was cheating on her fans. That's not a Mikeneko fan.
Calm down a bit and stop being angry.

>>42905130
>financial ruin!
>everyone was unsubbing from hololive!
>antis spammed everyone's chat!
None of this shit happened. Why do cuckifamis lie so much?

>>42905362
You don't watch JP chuubas so of course you did not notice it.

>>42905354
He literally said she "was caught" with quotes to imply that she wasn't caught doing anything that actually mattered.

>>42905387
I was watching hololive Valentine streams through the whole shithow and nobody was affected.

>>42905354
I am not saying either. It does not matter whether she was or was not. What matters is what the public thinks. You saw what happened because the majority thought so.

>>42905224
When the fuck did I say I hated cats? You must be some diaper wearing NEET if you think people get time off work and get to delay massive projects over dead pets.

>>42905586
The particular complaint was that she wasn't able to be by her cat's side when her cat died because she was too busy with work
I think it's only reasonable for someone to be upset that her company wouldn't give her half a day off or whatever she needed for such a simple task

>>42852295
Maybe he's a fan of k-on
You ksongumi are really the most fragile fans.

>>42905626
You don't get to take time off for that either. She wanted hololive and her "friends" to burn over a dead cat. She is malicious.

>>42905586
Let me give you a personal anecdote.
I called my workplace on a Tuesday back in March to let them know that I had just received news that the funeral of my cousin's baby was just announced, and that it would be taking place that very Thursday. I apologized for the short notice and asked if I could take the day off
Not only did they give it to me without a fuss, they didn't even take it out of my annual leave. And I wasn't someone like Rushia who was bringing in literally hundreds of million Yen for my company

>>42905699
You are the most malicious person I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. How do you not recognize what a vile piece of shit you are?

>>42905473
I don't know what to tell you except you either didn't notice because you were watching the stream and not the chat or blended them out. But yes, the complaints by fans were on twitter and other sites. The chats were only really affected by trolls, which does indirectly affect them and could go out of control. Remember previous large dramas and how it affected those talents and their interaction with the other girls and sponsorships?

>>42851772
I bet they would let her come back in a heart beat. She was consistently pulling in $120,000 a month with supers.

>>42905130
if Cover care about that then they won't give statement saying they don't care about private matter of their talent and how to brand themselves is up to them, you're trying to push old narrative "le idol culture" when they even try to close the bridge between Hololive and Holostars like involving them in big events, so clearly they don't really care about this "pure" thing, compare it with damage to brand for keeping someone not trustworthy and you can no longer swept that under the rug since krkr streamed it to the public, you clearly don't understand business, stop larping

>>42905473
>rushia bad
incorrect, and there are multiple moments proving it. Some have even been clipped just for EOPs like you!

>>42905830
If Cover had put out a statement that they did care about their talent's private lives, they'd be called a Black Company.
I'm not even saying you're wrong here, but don't pretend that they put out that statement out of the goodness of their heart.

>>42905774
Where's the malice? I'm just arguing with delusional retards who refuse to acknowledge that their pretend wife was ready to sacrifice her "friends" careers for selfish reasons.
What horrible consequences are my posts causing? She will keep making shitloads of money off of chumps like you.

>>42905887
You're attempting to ruin her reputation through very obviously biased interpretations of her actions so that less people watch her.
People who do this on 5ch get sued, and rightfully so

>>42905786
Where are the mass unsubbings? Where's the hololove financial crisis? You said all of these were happening over Rusha getting a message from mafumafu on stream so you should be able to show them.

>>42905955
Cover's 14th February statemet told people to stop attacking Rushia and the other Holomen
Why bother mentioning that if it wasn't happening?

>>42905924
Nothing of what I've said is false or biased. How would her getting korekore to broadcast her messages post suicide result in hololive surviving if her getting a simple message from a man was already going to cause massive financial problems which is why she got fired?

>>42905735
Are you genuinely comparing not coming in to work for a day with delaying a booking for an entire live venue that people purchased tickets etc. for?

>>42905985
I asked you to show the mass unsubbings and massive financial losses. Where are they?

>>42906112
?
Her cat did not die on the same day of the concert, so your point is irrelevant

>>42905877
they put out that statement because people accusing them with "le evil idol culture" and they fired Rushia because she is not trustworthy and the evidence of her being not trustworthy is already on the public not because they want to gain unicorn trust or something like that since their action says otherwise like how they even try to close the bridge between Hololive and Holostars, i'm saying your headcanon is completely wrong you're just a retard larping as business expert, you can stop now

>>42906151
Her taking time off would lead to delays.

I don't understand this argument you guys are having.
As far as I know Rushia was fired because she leaked something. Nobody has said exactly what it is, neither her nor cover and anything else is speculation.

Morally the worst thing she did imo was suicide bait her fans with the phone-toss thing. Which I can forgive her for because I'm not a fan, but I don't see how fandead could ever forgive something like that. If my oshii suicide baited like that without apologizing I would leave.

>>42906178
No, you're mixing up the timeline.
They put out 2 statements. The 14th statement was just telling people to stop harrassing her and the other Holomen. The 24th was the termination

>>42906049
Because she didn't do it out of malicious intend? If you really expect someone in her position to predict the possible side effects of her actions during a bipolar episode to that extend you must know nothing about mental illnesses / suicidal people.

>>42906220
>the phone-toss
She explained in clear detail that she didn't throw her phone, though.
She left it on and placed it on her table with the charging cable in.

>>42906220
This one guy antis her because he's convinced himself that in a hypothetical timeless where she killed herself, Cover would be destroyed
That is the basis of his year long crusade against her on 4channel.org

>>42891457
I mean their kinda right. Vshojo only recruits big indies who are already friends with their members or in Nazuna's case a former big corpo who got dropped.

>>42906132
nta, were you blind or busy watching holoen?

>>42906259
Choosing to talk to KOREKORE out of all the fucking people after she had already threatened to sue him is nothing but pure malice.
No, having a "bipolar episode" is not an excuse to seek out korekore's services.

>>42906220
>you guys
It's one anti(who claims to be an ichimin lmao) who has somehow genuinely convinced himself that Rushia not only actively hated Hololive, every Hololive employee, and her fans, but specifically and intentionally acted to try and destroy them and that that was the basis of every single action Rushia took. Ever.
This is literally what he actually believes. He has said this. Repeatedly.

>>42906390
And you make all of these posts out of the kindness in your heart, right?
You're far more malicious

>>42906325
Where were the unsubs? Show them.

>>42906390
>is nothing but pure malice.
do you know what the word "malice" means?

>>42906430
What the fuck?
Why does Rushia attract the weirdest antis?

>>42906441
What's the excuse foe talking to korekore? Why does Mikeneko NEED to talk to korekore?
Honest argumentation is not malicious. You just say it is because you're on the side of malice.

>>42906240
no, according to you their statement is to calm "people" and then when it doesn't work you think firing her is their action to regain trust of unicorn which is nothing more than baseless assumption and you're clearly wrong because, the damage of her drama is nothing compared to the damage of keeping someone that is known not trustworthy, not only firing her doesn't guarantee to make people to trust them again but also their action clearly shows that they don't really care about "pure" brand image

>>42906430
>ichimin
I thought you guys were hololive fans and knew japanese?

>>42906240
nta, but
>Cover
>statements
they mean fuck all, it's more like a convenient tool to get out hands clean and in the end say
>but we tried to do something

I genuinely can't tell if half of you are taking the piss or straight up being unintentionally obtuse.

>>42859315
you're giving those filthy western whores way too much credit. Those awful whores only wants their 5 minutes of clout.

>>42906542
>what's the excuse
It's called "desperation"

>>42906600
I don't think this anti actually watched Marine
I'm half convinced he is Marineschizo, because Marineschizo was always a Sankisei anti. So
>shits on Rushia while claiming to be an Ichimi
>larps as a Fandead to shit on Cover
>switches back and forth samefagging about whether Marine or Noel is "the bigger whore"
All things I've seen this guy doing

>>42906600
>addresses the typo and not the actual content of the post

>the side of malice
jesus christ he is going full chuuni

>>42906639
Desperation for what?
She asked him to broadcast her messages to a massive audience of trolls.

>>42871435
vshojo is the absolute insult of vtubing in general. All of vtuber fans who actually loves virtual youtubers hates those whore agency

>>42851649
>>42851772

>>42904601
that video of that japanese kid calling her a whore and being glad she was graduated that literally everyone on this board has seen

>>42906678
What wrong with shitting on Cover?

>>42906756
I don't think it's fair for you to judge an English speaking vtuber group when you don't speak English.

>>42877860
Kson should get shat on a lot harder. Betraying your fans to join vwhorejo is unforgivable. But she's already irrelevant and nobody watches her anymore. She must've regretted her decision especially after all of the holos cut her off.

>>42906743
>Desperation for what
"For"? BECAUSE of the pain involved in being nearly driven to suicide

>>42906790
Yeah that was a very well known hololive fan as everyone knows.
Why are you fandead so ready to attack hololive fans like this when you claim to not hate hololive?

>>42906810
nothing, just most of holofans have extended Stockholm syndrome, due to their oshi being in Cover, they are obliged to be criticism free towards "the company"

>>42906827
>m-muh ESL !!11
I accept your concession. Whore apologists are hilarious.

>>42906850
So are you finally admittkng that she seeked out korekore specifically to damage hololive if she kills herself?

>>42906830
Her only interaction with a Holo is after she joined Vshojo. Vshojo also does not rhyme with "vwhorejo", learn English and find an insult that sounds more natural.

>>42906864
>attack hololive fans
if you watched Hololive before her termination and hate Rushia you're not a Hololive fan, sorry

>>42906590
A-chan straight up said they would have gotten away with it if they were still a smaller company. The leak wasn't issue and if it isn't you have to work with and analyze what is given to the public. They very much care about their brand image. Half the holos are actively denying the homos existence for good reason. Of course this hardly affects those who do collab with them or other guys but it does greatly the ones who don't and uphold an image similar to Rushia.

>>42906864
NTA, but I don't hate Hololive. But I'm not even going to pretend that no Hololive fans were attacking her.
I've seen people with Holo oshi profiles on Twitter attacking Mikeneko enough to know that some of her antis are Holofans. Not all of them. Some are Junfags, some are normalfags, a lot are underaged. But let's not pretend that a Hololive fan has never attacked her
Hell, even in this very thread, the guy who has been attacking her for hundreds of posts claims to be a Marine fan

>>42906919
>admitting
Nobody else believes in your schizo narrative but you

>>42906972
Then why did she talk to korekore? "Desperation" is not an answer if you can't even say what she wanted.

>>42906864
I call out obvious lies. If you think that makes me a "Hololive hater" that says more about you than it does me.

>>42906923
vwhores apologists are on full force today. You retards are the force that is ruining vtubers by enabling those filthy disgusting whores. Good job. Kson destroyed her legacy and everything she built up by joining those band of whores.

>>42906919
nta, lmao what a massive leap. She seeked out korekore cause he would be the right guy for the job, if you don't understand that you clearly don't know anything about korekore so why are you acting like you do? And he has the audience so her message would reach the ones it would have needed to. There is 0 malice towards hololive as a whole in there no matter how hard you try to spin that rrat.

>>42907020
>wanted
She wanted the pain to stop you autist

>>42907051
>obvious lies
I suppose you go into all of the bait threads to refute rrats? I'm guessing you always attack people spreading the vile "Miko raped Pekora" lies and such, right?
Oh no, you just attack Rushia everyday. No time for other things.

>>42907059
Thank you for the reply, but I noticed that you didn't address the fact that you lied and how my correction is an objectively true fact. Please remember to add an apology to your next reply.

>>42907051
You just said that guy in that video was a hololove fan so you don't get to claim that you call out lies. It's more fitting to say that you defend lies.

>>42907091
How does talking to korekore do that? How does telling him to release her messages help her achieve that in any way?
Answer.

>>42907145
If this is the classic "no he's a njijifan!" numbermonkey tier deflection, sorry but you are incorrect. He's a Lamy fan and has a bunch of her merch.

Rushiaschizo is so chuuni

>>42853016
LMAO That would be funny and fun. Can't wait if she can pull it off.

>>42907087
>There is 0 malice towards hololive as a whole in there no matter how hard you try to spin that rrat.
What would happen if she killed herself and korekore showed her messages? Would hololive just continue on as usual?

>>42907207
Where's the proof?

>>42907188
>in pain for several reasons
>one of those reasons is feelings of being unjustly wronged
>delirious and not thinking properly
>talks to a dude known for having a big audience about vindicating her if she dies because she won't be able to
Again, are you autistic?

>>42907283
Death merch and a funeral concert, Cover would never miss an opportunity to grift.

>>42853016
She will mog the shit out of hololive if she can get decent indie singers join her.

>>42907283
Yeah, you don't know what malice.
>cause harm
is not the definition of malice.

>>42907283
In her mind yes, they would have hopefully fired the ones responsible for her torment and moved on. You believe this would have caused the collapse of Hololive and call her malicious because of it. Malice implies intention which she very clearly did not have.

>>42907321
>talks to a dude known for having a big audience about vindicating her if she dies because she won't be able to
And how is that not her seeking to damage hololive?

>>42907283
>what if
Lol, are you anti-ing over hypotheticals

>>42906940
>they care about brand image
ofc they do, but their brand image is not pandering to unicorn because that's not their idol brand since THE idol their face Tokino motherfucking Sora doesn't have problem acknowledging males, half holos denying the homos it's up to them since Cover said how they brand themselves is up to them, they company always have neutral stance if not they most likely won't make Holostars in the first place and firing someone not trustworthy is exactly an example of them caring about their brand image

>>42907417
does it make you mad that mel damaged hololive by exposing her rapist manager?

>>42907378
Yes it's not just causing harm but wanting to do so, and she did. She literally said so.

>>42907417
not everyone is like you and asks "but how would this effect Hololive?" before every action they take

>>42907417
It's now public knowledge that one of Cover's managers was spreading lies about the talent's personal lives and I don't see any real damage done about this

>>42907318
He's still on social media.

>>42907511
Just link the guy's profile. That will make him understand, or at least be unable to deny it

>>42907479
>she said
she said she wanted to hurt the people who hurt her
Note how she didn't say "hurt Hololive"

>>42907464
>rapist
Way to show that you have no idea what happened and just read posts made by /vt/ EOPs.
Are all nekofami like this?

>>42907455
You are too gullible for this world, even more than Rushia. Their biggest source of income were unicorns at that time. They are the ones who SC a lot, buy merch and go to their events.

>>42907590
NTA, but he was just a stalker who was harassing her. So did Mel (or whoever leaked to Narukami) deserve hate for doing that, or not?

>>42907575
The people who "hurt" her are in hololive. She said staff and senpai.

>>42907510
What are you even talking about?

>>42907658
Unlike you, she apparently has the capability to mentally seperate individual Hololive employees and Hololive as a whole. It is a trait that the rest of us possess. It is a normal trait to possess. Please seek psychiatric assistance.

>>42907725
Delutaya's former manager in Cover was spreading lies about the other Holomen's personal lives.

>>42907635
Mel's claims could be substantiated so any damage caused by her is justified.
You faggots can't even commit to admitting that hololive deserves to be damaged because even you don't believe mike claims.

>>42907869
What is this strawman? Do you want me to want Hololive to be damaged?
I actually don't understand what you're trying to say anymore. Please take your medication

>>42852488
I’m half sure the reason why kson and nazuna are in vshojo are because they want nendos lol

>>42907630
you're simply too retarded to understand how Cover playing neutral to appeal to both sides, and how much important is to keep your brand as trustworthy, how you come up to conclusion that Rushia got fired is to regain unicorn trust and saying her going to krkr is not a big deal when it's actually way more important because it affects the company brand image if they keep someone not trustworthy is simply too retarded yet you have the audacity to act like a business expert

>>42907920
Mike was seeking to damage hololive and you defend her doing that but also freak out when hololive fans dislike her for it.
I don't know what you want. I just want you to be consistent and not schizophrenic.

>>42907869
>any damage caused by her is justified
We weren't discussing whether or not damage was "justified" though.

>>42908234
>was seeking to damage Hololive
So was Mel, then. Do Hololive fans dislike Mel? Or is it different when it's "justified"? If so, on what basis?(Since "justified" isn't a basis)

>>42851772
I’m 110% fucking sure she would take that hand, and will never let it go if this image is remotely true.

If there is talents who felt like Holo is the dream job, one of them will be her.

>>42871921
Basically she needs a husband. Anyone want to volunteer?

>>42908253
It was always part of it. You tried using Mel as a gotcha to make me have to agree that I can't dislike mikeneko for what she did/tried to do.

>>42908329
Justified is absolutely a basis. Mikeshit can't name anyone and can't even say what happened to her. She just wants you to hate Cover, which you now do all because of her.
The most detail she could ever give was not getting preferential treatment during a time critical period over the loss of a pet.

>>42908484
Already inside her walls

>>42908513
>Justified is absolutely a basis
Except it isn't? Emotional state has almost nothing to do with justification.

>>42907796
According to who?

>>42908513
>She just wants you to hate Cover, which you now do all because of her.
My opinion on Cover is based on my own judgement of how they handle themselves in multiple incidents.
Sorry we're not all one dimensional like you

>>42908560
What are you even trying to say?

>>42908513
>She just wants you to hate Cover, which you now do all because of her.
Fucking what lmao

>>42908657
So you do hate Cover and by extension hololive. It's time to stop pretending otherwise.

>>42908725
I spoke plain English, which part can you not comprehend?

>>42908767
>Cover
I don't hate them. I just think they're incompetent. Comically so, at times. Like when they erased Luna from the Holofes poster instead of Rushia. Or when they erased Gura from the Holofes poster instead of Rushia. Or they can't even release well thought out English TLs for their statements.
>and by extension Hololive
No, because I don't see Cover and Hololive as being one and the same. I like all of the Holomen

>>42908767
Dumb corpo cuck. I can hate the faceless retarded corporation while loving all the wonderful talents that work for it.

>>42908782
What does your dumbfuck comment have to do with miketrash and Mel?

>>42908767
A study of business recognises that the corporation exists as a separate entity when conducting business affairs. Actions and decisions are attributed to the corporation instead of the individuals in it.
I'm shocked. Did you not go to school?

>>42908860
You don't hate the company that harassed several talents into quitting and sent antis after them to try and ruin their careers after they were gone?

>>42909014
Rushiaschizo, stop falseflagging now

>>42908225
you're simply too retarded to understand how Cover playing neutral to appeal to both sides
I don't see where I did that but okay.
As for the rest, you are straight up wrong if you believe going to korekore has more impact on their brand image and finances than upholding their illusions of a happy, pure family. What actual impact are you imaging that would have? Fans don't give a shit, heck there's an overlap in viewers and prior to it were happy about such leaks because they helped their oshis. So if it's not the fans whose trust is affected, who is? 3rd parties? Ridiculous, a talent does not have access to that sort of intel, which they humorously implied in their 2nd statement. So companies and sponsors, who aren't as deluded as you about business decisions, are out of the question as well. That leaves.. internal trust. Of course, that is an issue but it's far from the bigger, the biggest one, their finances. No gachis buying into your illusion -> no money and no sponsors. She had become detrimental to business. It wasn't the sole reason but the major one.

>>42908911
Those "äwonderful talents should just quit the corporstion then. Why won't they just do it?

>>42871201
>Vshojo
>idol

also they seem unable to expand for whatever reason

>>42908915
You said justification is a basis for action. This is literally incorrect, because actions are based on subjective emotional state, and emotional state is not necessarily justified. You autist.

>>42909082
As a vshojo watcher, it's because they want to focus on individuals rather than gens and genmates But they shoot themselves in the foot because of it because it takes them forever to have debuts. They spend tons of effort on one person while everyone else has to wait on the sidelines until it's their turn. Tradeoff is the members are free to do pretty much anything. They recently hired a lot more people, so maybe they'll be able to speed the process up. I think before it was a much smaller team

>>42909088
You said I HAVE TO hate Mel for damaging hololive regardless of the reasons behind it.
You are fucking retarded and Mikewhore is a liar who can't quantify any of her claims.

>>42909051
>>42909077
I already told you to stop

>>42909077
Because the corporation provides advantages as well as downsides.

>>42909411
Why won't they quit the corpo if it's so bad?

I don't really know much about the green woman, but after reading everything in this thread, I've realised that most of the people spreading shit about her are just deranged antis.
I'll be careful not to believe everything I read here going forward.

>>42909445
>Rushiaschizo antiposts have stopped
>suddenly Coverschizo appears with the exact same typing style
You are actually insane. Holy Jesus on a cross Christ, what the hell happened to you to make you like this?

>>42909370
>you said I HAVE to
first of all, different anon, but yes if you wanted to be logically consistent you would have to. Since both Mel and Mikeneko, like other humans, acted based on their emotional state, their intentions were the exact same regardless of the reality.

>>42909370
NTA, but you're literally saying that it's fine to damage Hololive if you think you have a good enough reason to do it.
Why? Who decides what's a good reason or not? You? Kek

>>42909470
Just today Marine said she met up with Rushia recently. There's just no way Rushia did anything bad. The firing was entirely unjustified but big business is all kinds of bullshit.

>>42909578
>>42909580
You are saying there's no difference between assault and self-defence. Are you fucking serious right now?

>>42909673
That's actually not what I'm saying

>>42909444
What advantages? They do literally nothing for their talent and then call them Hitler if they ever need to fire them due to schizos.

>>42909843
Shut the fuck up, Rushiaschizo

>>42909673
If you perform literally the same actions and believe yourself to have the same exact justifications in the moment, there IS no difference morally. It makes a difference in a court of law because a court of law involves practical considerations. That has nothing to do with morality.

>>42909815
Yes it is. You said no action can be justified because everything is based on emotion.

>>42909900
Self-defence is absolutely moral.

>>42909843
Resources to put together better events, and contacts to get in touch with other talented people.
As well as massive marketing power and brand name recognition.
That doesn't mean I can't hate them, but they have a reason to be.

>>42909053
the only one deluded here is you and your retarded headcanon thinking those act is to pander to unicorn and you keep ignoring how the company is also pushing Holostars, if they pander that hard to unicorn they won't play both sides since it means they are not keeping the illusion, there is gachikoi and there is unicorn, these unicorn who care so much about "purity" is minority, most fan don't care as long as the company don't force them either to collab with male or to not collab with male, so again your headcanon is nothing more than baseless assumption, and how you think having secret info or something like that is the only thing matter is shows how you're just a retarded larper, having your employee going to dramanigger like krkr even after being told to stop shows that the company can't even handle their employee and if they just let it slide after it goes public it will show that they lack of control this is absolutely affecting sponsors and investors

>>42909922
He's not me, and I didn't say that, I said every action is based on emotional state(and this is just a fact of life) and therefore that your argument about justification being relevant in the first place is non-sense.

>>42909977
The talents have to buy all the resources and always need to use their own contacts.

>>42909967
Morality is a subjective thing. Reality is an objective thing. Stop pretending that the two can be reconciled in such a way that objective morality can be derived. It cannot be. You are decades out of date.

Rushia left and immediately the mixed events between HololivexHolostars began.

>>42910133
So what is the reality of this situation?
Mel could name the person harassing her and prove it was happening.
Mikeneko made a bunch of non-specific accusations and couldn't even say what was done to her.
The two are not equal and disliking Mikeneko for what she did is completely rational.

>>42902789
sure

>>42910398
Mel's situation is more cut and dry, but Mikeneko's situation needs to be carefully considered and looked over
Throwing it out instantly because it doesn't fit your very narrow set of parameters is just childish.