/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42787868

>>42787868
FUCKING KEK

>>42787868
Fippy bippy

>>42787868
/thread

>>42787868
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>42787868
Such an old meme, but it checks out
Based

>>42787868
oh no holo sisters how are we going to recover

>>42787868
true and real

So this is the leader of Tempus huh? Explains a lot.

>>42787868
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>42787868
How many of those dicks are trans?

>>42787868

>>42787868
Up you go.

>>42787868

>>42787868
Kek

>>42787868
FPBP

>>42787868
Tempissbros...not like this...

>Went crying directly to cover to publicly cry with the rrat after it kept getting banned last night
Dare I say, based?

>>42795908
Honestly kind of pathetic desu.

>>42796019
nowhere near as pathetic as this

>>42787868
Tempiss btfo’d yet again

>>42795908
Based, lines up timeline wise to when the jannies gave up

>>42787868
This threat should not die.

This Blue fag hates Vesper, theres this chocolate bar called "Noir" and when he ate it he did not even crack a joke with something like "ohhh Vesper taste's dry" nah he just continued on to try the other food in the ration. Flayon, Shinri, Bettel, Hakka and Magni was mentioned on that stream though so he has his faction within hololive productions now.

>>42797092
Here's the stream in question with no mention of Vesper whatsoever.

I can't believe men would end up being the ones to bring the troon virus to hololive.

Why does he disrespect his coworkers?

>>42797092
>Flayon, Shinri, Bettel, Hakka and Magni
>All the faggy ones are grouping up
Stars EN has achieved terminal fagginess within the first gen. They're going to try to force the hiring of strictly woke faggots like them and shut out all the normal people that won't "support the cause". It's honestly impressive how completely they fucked up making Stars EN in the first place.

>>42797423
Male vtubers are a mistake, we know. I hesitate to even call these faggots male.

>>42785258
this is why gatekeeping is a necessity

>>42787868
Kek

Yagoo being a closet homo is the biggest issue his wife and company have

>Widely known stereotype that anyone with an anime profile pic is either a tranny who thinks they'll magically become an anime girl after chopping their cock off and not look like the neighborhood molester instead or comedically right wing "race war now" sorts
>All hires in Stars EN are fags and obviously left leaning wokes
>Yabs
>Drama
>Inability to shut their mouths
>Infighting
>Petty spats like women
>Woke pandering to "support the cause"
I have come to the conclusion that management needs to hire a gen or two of pic related who can keep their politics to themselves for the good of the branch.

>>42798863
I don't get why they would even want left leaning males, they aren't attractive to women or even other gays

>>42799067
Trannys and woke tards only hire others of their kind. They're like Indians in tech jobs. Management is clearly woke as well.

>>42799207
But why would they leave the recruitment to EN management that would be retarded

>>42797179
The universe can be funny sometimes

>>42799434
Save us Japan. Plz.
Every day I have to look at Tempus, it's just another day of staring into the pitch black night.

>>42799897
For Myth they had Coco to help with recruitment right?
They need to use the experience and knowledge of Haachama this time...

>>42787868
GOTTEM

>>42787868
I don't get it

>>42799434
They were able to hit the nail in the coffin for Vesper though, he feels like a StarsJP that can speak english

>>42800180
I shall begin the summoning ritual. Save us HAACHAMACHAMA

>>42800637
No they didn't and StarsJP are a failure which shouldn't exist, it just loops back to the primary issue>>42798756

>>42785258
>Holotroons are eating each other alive

Why is this so commong, /vt/? Why cant they be a family under mommy pomu and daddy vox?

>>42800411
blue is a tranny faggot

>>42800681
I-is that sex?

>>42800411
it's funny because it makes him say he sucked dick lol

>>42787868
KEK

>>42800681
what the FUCK

>>42798863
>Widely known stereotype that anyone with an anime profile pic is either a tranny who thinks they'll magically become an anime girl after chopping their cock off and not look like the neighborhood molester instead or comedically right wing "race war now" sorts
>I have come to the conclusion that management needs to hire a gen or two of pic related who can keep their politics to themselves for the good of the branch.
Both of these groups are the same sort of people, why do you want more of the same?

>>42800726
No you're just seething from thought that he may have fucked one of your oshis in Japan. Its not about Yagoo being a faggot, he just wants to take a slice of the NijiEN market and sure enough it works. Nijifags poured into Tempus.

>>42800971
Kek no, it's a spider molting. They outgrow their exoskeleton every once in a while.
Bugs are weird.
May the Cicada help in summoning the HAACHAMACHAMA

>>42800411
>20,000 people got head
>tfw you were not one of them

>>42801178
My oshi is married. I care about the long term success of Hololive.
Niji doesn't have a market, they had the scraps. Should have been left that way,

>>42801178
>he couldn't function because he didn't have his meds
>can convince autistic even by nip standard women to give him time of day
DYRBI

>>42797092
>Made a comment about Vesper in the exact moment you said he didn’t
>Mentioned Vesper first in the exact list you said he wasn’t
What’s the point of lying?

>>42801159
The leftist meme thing leads me to believe one is going to be funnier than the other, and therefore better streamers.

>>42801519
Ill take that over NijiEN on hololive.

>>42801769
Not relevant, it's a matter of fact he did not get his hole in Japan and much less from a fuckin idol that could literally get the best men in the world

>>42785258
>>42787868
20,000 dicks? yeah we got the message but we already knew you love dicks

>>42801178
>he may have fucked one of your oshis in Japan

>>42801178
It's a male vtuber, if he's had sex it was on the receiving end

>>42801899
"The Message" is the term used when you force leftist idealogies in your media to be the correct way of thinking, like for example; She Hulk, all men are bad and all women are good. In that show the men were shown to be incompetent at being Laywers whilst the women are great at being Lawyers. The term is usually heard from the critical drinker, a youtuber that reviews movies.

>>42800180
is there any validity that Coco helped recruit EN

>>42798756
I agree, him pretending to be straight is literally the worst thing for the company.
Also his wife.

>>42802963
I don't keep clips of nonsense from years ago but yes, both her and Myth have said so.

Surprised this thread is still up. Did they realize that these threads are both on topic and that removing them inly encourages people to post rrats about it, or are they just too busy taking it up the ass right now?

>>42804636
Yeah they are starting to understand the only thing that keeps us in containment is the girls benefit, if things aren't seeming beneficial to the girls we will break it.
They don't want that stuff getting onto reddit and twitter

>>42804636
>deaignate a containment site
>make it so schizos cant stay in containment so they break free

Only have themselves to blame lmao

>>42787868

>>42807559

EN kek

bump

>>42787868
It's over

>>42797423
A straight male wouldn't use a male Vtuber model.

>>42801226
Some people just learned something today. Don't say /vt/ never taught ya anything, fuckers.

>>42797994
Bettel is not a fag, he's actually Jerma tier autist with untreated ADD.

>>42811373
Unless you're just rejecting information you don't like, you should be learning constantly on this board.

This screenshot will make the thread pruned

>>42811547
He has a gay pride flag as pfp in Overwatch.

>>42812049
faggots are literally the worst, why the fuck are they employed at Cover? makes no sense

>>42812124
Yeah, kinda makes you think how the fuck does yagoo expect to beat manjisanji with homos composed of actual faggots and troons

>>42812258
He wants to have sex with men during work hours so he doesn't get easily caught by his wife

>>42787868

>>42801298
Aki?

>>42787868
holy kek

>>42787868
Tempus sisters... It's over...

>>42813538
Even though it's well known and doesn't affect her numbers, I can't directly say who it is.
Should be obvious based on image.

>>42787868
real

>>42787868

https://youtu.be/pYj88IeIM6A

wait, what the fuck happened this time?

>>42816533
Takos are getting cucked by that? Jesus christ what a faggot

>>42816701
the ultimate rrat was formed

>they literally opened the door for a community that will antagonise, argue and cause rifts in the community that is actually engaged in the content
Why aren't we breaking containment, again?

>>42817533
too scared

>>42787868

>>42816701
Blue faggot said he won't play Hogwarts Legacy because he "gotta support the cause".

How are we all doing today, /ragus/?

>>42800681
imagine this reverse climbing into your butthole

>>42820739
Is Altare Omega?
>Takes all the credit for "making Niji collabs possible" since she was fighting for a Pomu collab for years.
>Altare asks for niji the collabs and they "suddenly" are instantly possible
>some faggot tranny in management that probably suspended Vesper. We know that Altare and Vesper probably had a fight(from Axels membership stream).
>We don't know for sure but it would be 100% in char if Vesper did not want to collab with Altare anymore.
>Altare being a pityful little shit does 7 member collabs to make Vesper look bad or like a loner. Altare never answers why Vesper isn't here, it's usually only Magni that does it, who’s actually more of a Leader than Altare will
ever be. We know that Altare invited himself to Magni in an offcollab shortly after he and vesper had a fight, probably because Magni is the only one who actively is on Vespers side.
>He slips that he’s responsible for collab ban time in the Holotempus by saying "I'll give them a week before collab ban is over" on stream

>>42787868

>>42820939
You know, I've seen this pasta a few times before and I still can't figure out the point it's trying to make. Are we supposed to care if Altare is a manager? Does it change anything if he turns out to be a tranny? Also, even if he really is the one deciding who gets banned from collabs, the company seems to be okay with it so why care?

>>42821748
>Are we supposed to care if Altare is a manager?
Yes, his values are not fruitful to success.
>Does it change anything if he turns out to be a tranny?
Yes, their values are not fruitful to success.
>Also, even if he really is the one deciding who gets banned from collabs, the company seems to be okay with it so why care?
Nips are ignorant on the harm these types do.

>>42785258
not about the money?

>>42817533
Braking containment? You mean sharing our feelings with other websites? Why not? Places like Twitter are already accepting how bullshit the trans community is being. Just see how much support an indie VTuber is getting there.
https://twitter.com/Bliss8Cosmic/status/1623422759672983552

>>42821748
with xir as management, Vesper will be given the Coco treatment and encouraged to graduate.

>>42821986
Yes but in a way that Cover, Homos and Holos will see it

>>42821748
>"What's wrong with having a corrupt, narcissist manager?"
Seriously?

>>42822095
Super chat messages? Infiltration? Starting our own VTuber group? A campaign to raise awareness? Encourage them to come out MeToo style?

>>42822244
Maybe. I was thinking sperging out on twitter.

>>42822292
I doubt we have enough people to do that and it'd just make /vt/ look bad.

>>42822318
Who cares about /vt/
I'm willing to make myself look bad infront of my oshi if it means that hololiveEN gets fixed

>>42797994
I don’t think Bettel is a faggot (yet) when he was building a Minecraft house he built the roof in the color of his hair blue, pink, white and everyone in chat started spamming the troon flag which he seemed kinda uncomfortable with and then quietly changed it to another color.

>>42822347
If you make yourself look bad in front of them then then nothing will get fixed, you'll just look bad.

>>42822496
I disagree, you cannot deal with this situation and look good; to look good you have to put your head in the sand.
In what world can you complain about the employees of the company for their homosexual degeneracy and political leaning and look good?

>>42822550
Well at least not in a burgerland company where the fag and troon are actively turning you into a devil if you don't do everything they want. Those fucking fascist.

>>42822446
Keep in mind that there are homosexuals who take issues with the trans movement since the latter's insistence that liking girly things makes you a girl risks eradicating homosexual identity. Along the lines of parents would rather their son would turn into a girl than come out as gay. Conversion therapy, chopping dick edition.
Which is something that IS practiced in Iran, so it's a valid concern.
tldr: it's entirely possible that Bettel is homosexual and hates trannies

>>42822446
link?? I wanna see the chat dissapointment when he changes it to a normal color

>>42822742
If I was gay, I would hate trannies

>>42822446
It retarded how these people now monopolize of this color combination.

>>42822550
Well how is having an autistic meltdown going to help anyone?

>>42822742
Lesbos hate them too. Look up “the cotton ceiling” if an Incel came up with that term there would be riots.

>>42822866
>"He always seemed normal, has been in our chats for over 2 years and was always good"
>Why is he being so weird now? Maybe i've been caught up in my own events etc, what is going on exactly?"

>>42822749
https://www.youtube.com/live/iJN_nA7lies?feature=share
About 1 hour and 30 minutes

>>42822742
this pisses me off. a man should be able to like cute things and still identify as a man. Women should be able to like manly things and be based tomboys.

troons can't even toe their own line

>>42822910
I agree with this, that could work

>>42822910
If you seriously think that's what would happen if you go full autist on Twitter then you're fucking retarded.

>>42823101
I don't know what you mean exactly.
The idea is to tell the truth. It's just that the truth makes you look bad for expressing it.

>>42822446
based

>>42823130
And also that you're willing to sacrifice your reputation in order for what is best for the company to be known.
The girls aren't going to like that Stars HAS to be removed, that Jenma HAS to be removed.
Saying those things, even as rationally and calmly as possible is going to make you look bad. But it's necessary if Hololive is going to survive in the west

>>42823130
Apologies, i misunderstood what you were trying to get at.
You mean that's what you want us to say on Twitter, right?
Well i don't think pretending to know the guy like that would work especially when it can be easily disproved.

>>42823240
>especially when it can be easily disproved.
Then why hasn't it?

>>42823251
Now you're misunderstanding me.
What i'm saying is that if you pretend to be acquainted with him then he can easily prove that he doesn't know you.

>>42823343
Hm? this is the info
>>42804636

>>42823358
No, i'm talking about that. I'm not saying that that would be easy to disprove, i'm saying you pretending to be his friend would be easy to disprove.

>>42812049
It's actually clown colors, which what he is. But the rainbow color in general has been corrupted by the west.

>>42823405
But I never said that

>>42823405
>>42822910
was my headcanon of how Holomems would react

>>42801178
>he just wants to take a slice of the NijiEN market and sure enough it works

>>42823423
It's what you implied the plan was here >>42822910
If your plan is to Tweet those messages then that would imply that you're at least acquainted with the guy, but that's not true.

>>42821986
Pretty shitty how tiktokers and twitter shitters can just steal content like this and get likes and views.

>>42823508
Yeah imagine the green text is Aki or something and it's a reaction to me going schizo

>>42823468
Well OK, then why was that told to me when i asked about here >>42823240
Not only that but that brings up my previous point of that's wishful thinking and they'd just ignore you at best.

>>42823486
>>42801178
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>he just wants to take a slice of the NijiEN market and sure enough it works.

>>42823575
Well sure but it can't only be me. I've already started doing it anyway. My "plan" would only be effective if hundreds of people joined in.

>>42823546
Well, here's the thing, going schizo does not work. Whatever point you have, no matter how right it is, will be ignored because no one takes a schizo seriously.

>>42823622
im already there so you guys have to join me

>>42823622
>>42823638
Also I have a good face and I feel like it helps me look less schizo

>>42823612
So you're big plan already started and all you got to show for it is that you've been blocked.
This won't work, even if you get hundreds to join (unrealistic expectations) they'll all just get blocked like how you just demonstrated.

>>42823675
You revealed your face to the public? Or you at least have plans to do so?

>>42823712
Yeah but to be fair, it didn't delete my post or any of the comments on it.
Personally, I think me getting blocked by holopro account helps.
>>42823752
I use my real name and face on twitter and youtube. Well I changed my picture on youtube since I felt like I stood out

>>42823788
>Personally, I think me getting blocked by holopro account helps.
How?
>I use my real name and face on twitter
I don't think having a public identity for such a thing would work out.

>>42823924
>How?
it further shows the behaviour of those types of people.
>I don't think having a public identity for such a thing would work out.
If im not putting anything on the line, what is the point? If im willing to put my reputation of not just the girls I love but my employment present and future, that shows it must be important.

>>42801178
>>42823486
>>42823597
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>he just wants to take a slice of the NijiEN market and sure enough it works.

>>42822749
Also when I meant “quietly” I meant he did it slowly as to not make the chat spergout

>>42813538
ancient and baseless rrat

>>42823968
>it further shows the behaviour of those types of people.
It really depends on what you've been Tweeting.
Give me a link to your Twitter. I wanna see just what you've been saying.
>If im not putting anything on the line, what is the point?
What's on the line is your cause. Having someone with a public identity be the leader of a cause can worsen how people view it depending on what others might have on you.
This could only work if you have a squeaky clean track record and no offence but i doubt that.

>>42824271
>It really depends on what you've been Tweeting.
>Give me a link to your Twitter. I wanna see just what you've been saying.
Ogey but it was yesterday https://twitter.com/ScottKn31281778
>What's on the line is your cause. Having someone with a public identity be the leader of a cause can worsen how people view it depending on what others might have on you.
>This could only work if you have a squeaky clean track record and no offence but i doubt that.
Depends what you mean by clean, if by moral and legal then yes I would say im clean. Though im not a leader, surely other people here also use their real face and name on social media.

>>42824437
>I want to facedive in to the hairy muff of a 30+ year old anime woman and nothing you say will change my mind
I kekd

>>42824437
Your face is ok, good is flattering yourself

>>42785258
The message is
>OP is ultra jelly of Altare
>its because OP is a beta loser while Altare is a natural leader
>OP also want to shill his clip channel by just outright lying

And obviously when you have massive giga loser like the OP a political agenda is also behind OPs posts.

>>42824604
meds

>>42824589
It's the best picture i've ever taken at least. Also I think the way I look is appreciated in certain demographics, the spaniards for example

>>42787868
kek

>>42824494
kek, hagfags are based

>>42824437
I read the Tweets you made this year and honestly, what the fuck, seriously, you're not doing anything to get the truth out there, all i've seen you doing is mindlessly lusting and bitching.
You weren't block because you were trying to reveal ant truths, you were blocked for being a faggot.
And you didn't even do much for your cause, you just made a few replies and gave up once they blocked you. Shows how much you care.
I agree with your views on the matter but your plan is just horrible and i don't want to be associated with you.
Oh, and using 4chan screencaps is not a good way to get people on your side, especially in a community that doesn't put 4chan in high regard.
You really went into this without thinking.

>>42797646
Miyabi used to be on meds due to him developing depression from the stress and harassment when Stars was a 1 view shitshow, how did streaming Hogwarts not re-enable that?

>>42825057
You kind of sound like a homo to me

>>42825057
I'm waiting for the next thing, I can't just reply to any posts

>>42825480
What definition of homo? That word has more than one meaning here.

>>42825057
Everything he's ever said is ultra based? I have never seen such ability to argue and make the other person look stupid

>>42824437
>complains to Elon Musk about lack of anime girls on his timeline
kek

>>42785258
I didn't buy any AAA games since 2020, but Altare made me change my mind cause you know, for the cause.

>>42825583
How?

>>42787868
How could the sisters ever recover?

>>42825920
How what? Show me where he is wrong, or comes out looking worse in an argument?
His jokes are always hilarious, im still thinking about the hag thing.

>>42787868
Very mature.

>>42826008
When it comes to topics that aren Hololive then maybe but when it does come to the topic of Hololive, the topic that this entire discussion is about, he just hands out insults and no actual explanations.
https://twitter.com/ScottKn31281778/status/1624305765136695301
https://twitter.com/ScottKn31281778/status/1623856693288337411

>>42822446
He uses an lgbt avatar in overwatch

>>42826339
There isn't a discussion happening there? If you pay attention to the first post, he is tagging a person that liked the post and pointing out that he doesn't follow any Holomems, just Holostars.
On the second thing you linked, he is talking to a Japanese person and is just agreeing with what was said.

>>42822550
Literally this world before 30 years, or anywhere but the west right now, and everywhere again in 30 years (they will become extinct, they dont reproduce and depend on forcing their ideas on children or raising other people children all together)

>>42826434
In the first one he posts a 4chan screencap and being vague. When someone asks what he's talking about he doesn't give an explanation but instead insults the guy because of the people he follows. The point of the cause is to raise awareness as to how bad Altare is right? Well insulting people in such a way does will only drive them away, therefore preventing awareness.
The second one has him insulting HoloStars EN as a whole, not just Altare, enforcing a "guit by association" mentality.. If you wanna rais awareness for someone doing bad things then you shouldn't go after those who are most likely innocent just for being associated with the guy.
All in all, it's just not gonna make Holo fans take the cause seriously, and when it comes to exposing someone of their bad deeds the fans are the ones you want to convince the most.
And this goes double for someone who's leading the charge.

>>42826983
You literally sound like a seething tranny, you should work on that.
It was perfectly clear that the guy who posted the gay Breaking Bad meme at me didn't look at the information and was seeking information out, he was trying to dismiss the opinion. It does not require a response.
How can you have a problem with the second thing, Holostars should not exist and all of them are a disaster to the brand.
It's not actually about the blue haired fag, I haven't watched a single second of any of them. They all need to be gone. He is just a good example of why.
Have to be honest, I don't want you associated with me.

>>42822960
Troons trying to co-opt Guilty Gear for example simply for Bridget and Testament turned me off completely to Strive. Like I don't even bother with that game and anytime its streamed anymore. And I liked the franchise for years too.

>another yab
The fuck happened this time?

>>42827444
Altare supports troonery

>>42827254
In a way it makes me happy no one in HoloPro is an avid fighting game player. Oga did a couple of streams where he played with Bridget but I hate the game so I didn't even pay attention to it, tho I wonder how well the chat behaved considering that whole ordeal.

>>42827444
Here >>42820598

>>42827533
Considering his chat will be primarily JP?
They won't even know what trans rights means.

>>42827564
True, but StarsJP still have some western fans, especially when some cunt tried to convince him to not play HL (only to be blocked by Astel lmao), so I wonder if those stayed quiet in chat or if they tried to bring up the conversation about it, especially the nu-Bridget fans.

>>42827119
>It was perfectly clear that the guy who posted the gay Breaking Bad meme at me didn't look at the information and was seeking information out, he was trying to dismiss the opinion. It does not require a response.
Two things about this.
1. That's just an assumption.
2. Even if that's true giving a proper response and perhaps even having a proper discussion with the guy would be more beneficial because at best you'd have convinced him and at worst he wouldn't believe you. And wanna know what would happen if he doesn't believe you? Well then it would have been his lose. And if he insulted you then you would have came out of it the better person. But you insulting the guy just made him the better person and you look like an asshole. His Tweet having more likes than your reply is just proof of that.
>How can you have a problem with the second thing, Holostars should not exist and all of them are a disaster to the brand.
Well then give an explanation, give proof. Without it you're no different than the countless obsessed antis that roam this board.
I'm sure none of them are perfect, no VTuber is perfect, but making them out to be as bad as you're making them out to be would just backfire if they're innocent.
>It's not actually about the blue haired fag, I haven't watched a single second of any of them. They all need to be gone. He is just a good example of why.
So you admit that you have no good reason to hate them. You just hate the idea of boys hanging out with your anime girls and you're using one bad apple to justify your hate for all of them.
You are just another pathetic anti.
>Have to be honest, I don't want you associated with me.
Making enemies isn't good for your cause too. Goes to show just how bad of a leader you are if this is what you think will fix anything.

>>42827637
>Two things about this
Nope, im right.
>Well then give an explanation, give proof.
HoloEN numbers.
>So you admit that you have no good reason to hate them. You just hate the idea of boys hanging out with your anime girls and you're using one bad apple to justify your hate for all of them.
You're a tranny. Confirmed. You know perfectly well it has nothing to do with them interacting, yet you made the claim anyway.
No longer discussing this with you, kill yourself.

>>42827683
based no nonsense taker

Acknowledging this shit was a mistake.
It doesn't matter what stance you take you won't make anyone happy.
The only correct approach is to not acknowledge it and pursue an apolitical stance similar to the British monarchy in relation to fucking everything.

Good morning anons. I hate asking to be spoonfed but I thought all the Altare stuff was a gay rrat that would be drowned out by the Zaion shit, but it's actually outlasted it and I have no fucking idea why whatever has happened is a big deal.

>>42827683
>Nope, im right.
Your unwillingness to learn and to accept others pointing out your faults is going to bite you in the ass. Take that as a warning.
>HoloEN numbers.
That does not prove them being bad people. That's not enough to justify such hatred and you need to destroy them.
>You're a tranny. Confirmed. You know perfectly well it has nothing to do with them interacting, yet you made the claim anyway.
And you start insulting again, making me the one who will come out of this the better person.
It was an assumption but it wasn't a baseless one considering how obsessive you are of anime girls on Twitter and how much you hate boys.

>>42827813
When 4chan schizos start connecting dots, always believe it they're always right.
Been that way since pizzagate.
>>42827837
Diddums didn't read faggot

>>42827813
Basically.
Altare came out and talked about how he won't be playing Hogwarts Legacy due to the controversy.
On its own a forgivable statement.
But then he followed it by saying "gotta support the cause" which has caused everyone to freak out and start going through other statements by Altare and management.

>imagine being a tranny and not killing yourself
These fake ass troons are just doing it for the attention. You contribute nothing to society, so either tranny up all the way and contribute to the 47%, or take off the wig and go to work, Bob.

>>42827848
>>42828009
Based

>>42827916
And the dot started to connect and it look grim and all of it could have been avoided if omegatroon didn't force himself into a streaming position going as far as creating tempiss for this only purpose.

>>42827837
>how obsessive you are of anime girls
That sounds like something a homolover would say

>>42827848
Then why reply?

>>42828102
Should have realised it earlier, think it's some vesper fag.
>>42828136
?

>>42828102
I don't even watch HoloStars myself, i'm just being fair and not wanting to destroy the careers of innocent people.

>>42828196
>innocent people
If they knew Hololive existed when they applied, you're a retard if you think they're innocent

>>42828196
>knows the company's and fans' stance on unisex collabs
>joins company
>immediately starts interacting and collabing with the women
>innocent

>>42828248
To be fair some of them were scouted, hell Aruran legit didn’t even know what VTubers were in general. Like how tf did they find him then?

>>42824437
Why do you wear lipstick? Are you a homo?

>>42828196
people who support "the cause" never get too worried about the collateral damage they cause and the innocent people they harm along the way.

>>42828324
Not to mention bringing up cringy political shit when no one from the entire agency has ever done it.

>>42828196
>First EN suspension was some faggot, not long after joining
>Leeching resources, ccv, management preventing overlap on debut
>Already have members that hate eachother
>Throws Holomems under the bus for playing a video game
>cucking Takos
>innocent

>>42787868

>>42824604
I almost agreed, but Altare couldn't be a shift lead at fucking Wendy's, let alone here.

>>42828372
Got on me from tonguewrestling your mum.
Nah really I think it's just from the camera, I've had the same phone for 10 years

>>42828248
What's so wrong about getting a job at Hololive?
>>42828324
Honestly it's the company and fans that should learn to loosen up on that stuff.
>>42828401
Yes, that applies to Altear and like i said i do agree about the bad things when it comes to that guy but i have yet to see or hear of anything bad the others have done.
>>42828446
I would like for you to specify what members have done such things.
Also members hating each other isn't anything out of the ordinary, i happens a lot with groups like these.

>>42828733
How about you show your superchats or memberships

>>42828753
I can't afford any. I'm having money issues so i can't give money to anyone.

>>42828733
>should learn to loosen up on that stuff
Next you'll start saying there should be enforced co-ed collabs, just to "own the incels".

>>42828847
Are you new?

>>42828866
I don't want anything to be enforced, that'd be taking it things to the opposite extreme. I just think people have the right to hang out with whoever they want.

>>42828733
>Honestly the company should cater to ME rather than the fans it built for itself.
God forbid you leave well enough alone, everything has to cater to (You), huh?

>>42828873
I've been here since /vt/ started but i'm very on and off from here.

>>42828995
So how have you had money issues this entire time?
Seems odd to never have been able to SC.
No merch, no purchases of concerts?
Seems sus to me.

>>42828733
if tempiss needs "fans to learn to loossen up on that stuff" than tempiss are parasites that need to cease to exist.

>>42828985
I never said that, in fact this is very hypocritical of you to say considering you're the one who wants HoloLive members to cater to you by not playing with HoloStars, putting your own needs before the wants of the girls.

>>42828084
What I don't get is that if Bae went silent after showing interest in Hogwarts Legacy, how did she get approval for a Harry Potter zatsu when the game's controversy was going on for months now?

>>42828963
Sure thing. Also the company has loosened it up since September of 2019, or more realistically since December of the same year. Things are this way right now because everyone, from talents to fans, were fine with the current status quo so being surprised people will get mad at radical changes is peak retardation.

>>42828426
Kiara has brought up politics before. Specifically taxes, but it's ok when the girls do it. Isn't it?

>>42829148
It's ok if its the right kind of politics

>>42787868
fpased and bpilled

>>42829148
Unironically yes because that's not retarded twitter bullshit like "nonbinary folks" or "the cause".

>>42829148
What was Kiara's controversial political take on taxes? And yes, in general the girls were decent at not bringing up politics until tempus ruined that.

>>42801226
I fucking hate these little bastards.

>>42829049
>So how have you had money issues this entire time?
I'm living in Canada. The economy of my country is fucked and my family is living off of disability checks to survive.
>>42829057
This doesn't make sense. How are they the parasites when their the ones who aren't the aggressors?
>>42829109
Radical changes? It's just boys hanging out with girls. Why do you people make being a boy or a girl into something bigger than it is?

>>42829332
You're defending the homos alot for someone who doesn't watch the homos

>>42824437
Jesus fucking Christ.
Listen, if you want to argue on the internet you need hard, cold data. Spouting one-liners, buzzwords and edgy phrases won't get you anywhere.
One time, when I was holding a debate about right-wing economics in high-school, a teacher called me out to the side and told me that, when arguing in public, your number one mission is convincing the masses - regardless if you're right or not. In cases like these, winning is based on how much people ended up siding with you and if you really want to see some change like you say you do, you gotta start working on that.
...and don't doxx yourself on 4chan of all places.

>>42829374
You're talking nonsense. Try doing squats and speaking like a man.

>>42829148
LMAO dude you know no one no one thinks taxes are controversial

>>42829255
That they need to be raised in certain countries and lowered in hers.
>>42829247
Aight, let's not say they haven't gone political before at all though at least. I'm down to say she didn't bring up a retarded political topic but she still brought one up.

>>42829364
That's because it's not about how much or how little of a fan i am, it's about justice. Hating people for such reasons is not justice.

>>42829449
Sounds like a lie.

>>42829332
>Radical changes? It's just boys hanging out with girls. Why do you people make being a boy or a girl into something bigger than it is?

So you are a full homobeggar that admits he doesn't even have money and you want hololive to alienate paying customers to support your ideology.

>>42785258
It's always the pink women and the blue men.

>>42829403
Gottem

>>42829148
Kiara is unironically too stupid to know that people use the topics she mentioned for politics.
Altranny 100% knew exactly what he was doing and basically banned the game for all of EN. Absolutely retarded. Also got a literal tranny into stars(the red little fuck that noone likes)

>>42829332
"HoloPro" was just a name for the company and never had any significance outside of the rare co-ed collabs. After Tempus debuted the EN side pushed hard the HoloProEN shit trying to make it so both branches were more united than it actually is, even cutting the collab ban short so they would especially collab with HoloEN and ID. Compared to the JP side where they never strayed away from the initial separation this was a radical change, tho apparently it bit them in the ass so hard they reduced the frequency of that shit considerably.

>>42829433
Because she will get in trouble for bringing up taxes, right? Sure, if we're expanding "politics" to literally everything tangentially related to it even the JP members talked about it, but don't act like a smartass thinking I meant anything other than the retarded twitter shit blue fag brought up at least twice already.

>>42829520
Again, I'm down to say that her topic wasn't as bad, but let's not lie and say no one has ever brought in politics before when they clearly have.

>>42829513
Kek im literally the best at arguing on the planet, that little weirdo and his debate club doesn't know shit

>>42829433
complaining about taxes in general isn't a controversial political stance. offhand remarks about Austria's tax policy isn't going to alienate anyone.

>>42829092
>very hypocritical of you to say considering you're the one who wants HoloLive members to cater to you by not playing with HoloStars
Hypocritical for wanting them them to do what they told me they'd do when they first started? What I want is for them to not change their brand just because that's what they want to do, now that they have the safety cushion of 1 mil subs.
>putting your own needs before the wants of the girls
You seem to be misunderstanding something here. I'm not parasocial, I just like watching cute girls doing cute things, so I couldn't care less what the girls want. These girls aren't my family, girlfriends or even friends for that matter, they're just entertainers and I'm the customer.

>>42829602
kill yourself

>>42829673
Alright Miss "you shouldn't doxx yourself on 4chan of all places" come help me out with that

>>42829460
I just have a strong sense of justice. What more can i say?
>>42829471
What ideology? I'm just saying boys and girls should hang out together if they want to, this has been a well known fact even in the prehistoric ages. Why is such a normal part of life so taboo when it comes to HoloLive?

>>42829964
>falseflagging as a long time holofag
>homobeggar agenda
>justice

>>42804636
THE FINAL YAB IS UPON US! REPENT, I SAY! REPEEEEEENT!

>>42797994
How is it possible that you don't realize that you are the minority?

I wish I had such a carefree life that my only problems are what anime girls/boys are doing

>>42829964
>I just have a strong sense of justice, that just so happens to align with only one side. What more can I say?
That's plenty troonanon, we know your kind thinks they are doing a good thing while they try to #destroy the lives of those who disagree with their agenda

>>42829569
Eh, that does feel wrong to force to groups together like that i admit.
And although i think the whole collab ban thing is silly for all of the groups in general, especially the for the girls, i do think that shortening it without warning is a step in the right direction but executed wrong, especially when it seems to have happened out of favoritism or the need to make money fast, instead of actual care for their members.

>>42829964
Go to the oldest hololive meme you have, click properties, take a screenshot
cut the names of the folders if it has your name
and lets see how long you've been a holofag.
your last chance for some credibility

>>42830115
normal people don't cut of their genitals or pretend others doing so become the opposite sex.

>>42830186
You can tell you didn't know about Pixiv at first

>>42830138
The collab ban exists so the new members don't instantly attach themselves to their senpai and try to create their own brand a sense of unity within their group. You can argue the duration of it, but not having it gave us JP Gens 1 and 2 that barely interact with each other or feel like they're a group most of the time. Also the reduced collab ban period for Tempus was exclusively for HoloEN and ID, with the StarsJP members and management not being notified about this until the first collab (which I believe was Magni and Mori) was announced, so it was 100% a way to push the retarded HoloProEN vision the people in charge of the EN side have.

>>42830244
Aye apparently it was only a few days though

>>42829651
>Hypocritical for wanting them them to do what they told me they'd do when they first started? What I want is for them to not change their brand just because that's what they want to do, now that they have the safety cushion of 1 mil subs.
When they first started? Well, to put it honestly and bluntly, things change. The more years go by the more things will change, even more so when different cultures get added to the mix.
And what is it that they promised in the first place? How are they changing their brand?
>You seem to be misunderstanding something here. I'm not parasocial, I just like watching cute girls doing cute things, so I couldn't care less what the girls want. These girls aren't my family, girlfriends or even friends for that matter, they're just entertainers and I'm the customer.
OK, there may be a misunderstanding here. Can you help me understand you better? You say you're just the customer right? Well then why is this customer unhappy? Help me empathize with you.

>>42830350
>when different cultures get added to the mix
the culture people have an issue with doesn't mix, it destroys

>>42830186
I don't think he's going to do it, he has tempiss vibes

>>42830289
Just chiming in, the collab ban duration was shortened for ID3 and JPStars Uproar.
Make of that what you will. I personally don't care what you do with it.

>>42830411
A good example is the faggot you're talking to, literally trying to deceive people.

>>42830350
>Can you help me understand you better? You say you're just the customer right? Well then why is this customer unhappy? Help me empathize with you.
Explain the meme "Yagoos home for ...."

>>42830005
Well i wouldn't call myself a long time fan. Like i said, i'm on and off. I'm more of just a casual enjoyer.
>>42830125
How many times do i have to tell you people that i agree with what has been said about Altaer? I agree that he's an ass and should be fired. i just feel like there's a better way to expose him with, for a lack of a better term, minimal damage.
>>42830186
I don't really save Vtuber memes. Honestly the only memes i care about is SpongeBob and other Nickelodeon stuff. Any meme that's not Nickelodeon is not good enough for me.

This nigga Scott
>Got some falseflagging homobeggar to start openly homobegging
>Showed that he has never invested financially into hololive
>Is currently showing that he is a newfag
I kneel. He actually is the best at arguing on the planet

>>42830350
>How are they changing their brand?
NTA but look at how messy NijiEN collabs can get.
People just want to watch CGDCT. It's that simple.

>>42830498
It wasn't for either. ID3 was only introduced to the MC server by their senpai but went back to the ban until a month has passed, and I don't know what made you think Uproar also had a shorter ban when they didn't even have anything like ID3 had. Until Tempus the only other gen that had a shortened collab ban was Holox because they debuted close to the end of the year and the end of their ban would fall right at the New Year, so it was cut a week shorter so they would be available during the Christmas and NY streams.

>>42830350
>starts watching show
>its a fun comedy
>I like this, I'll keep supporting it
>season 4 pops up, all of a sudden the show is now a serious action show, no more comedy just gritty drama and gun action
>the previously likable character that made you laugh, is now constantly brooding and out for revenge
>the viewer doesn't like this sudden change
>This isn't what I payed for
>Lol get over it, things change, what matters is that we got bored of comedy and want to do a gritty action show with the same characters!
Even if the "gritty action show" that it becomes is good, its still not what I signed up for, its still something valid to be upset about.
Rather than changing the already existing "show", why not make a brand new show, separate of the already successful product? Obviously because its easier to ride the tailcoat of an already successful ip.

If you're honestly here to try and understand the other side's point of view, then this should help you understand. Oh and if you're gonna make the argument of >But holostars isn't a gritty action show, it is also a comedy, then you clearly missing the point, or rather, arguing in bad faith to deflect the point made

>>42830755
Lurk more and get better taste in memes retard

>>42785258
What cause does he support?

>>42816533
do people seriously enjoying listening to this obnoxious homosexual whispery voice?
holy fucking just talk like a normal person. faggot sounds like he's trying too hard to sound cute or something. it just makes him sound like an effeminate, obnoxious faggot.

>>42830894
British woman bad, but the Bill Cosby rape room is fine.

>>42830781
Holy shit

>>42830755
But if you really wanna know, this is the closest thing to a HoloLive meme i got.

>>42830927
I didn't actually watch the clip I linked but I agree

>>42830986
That's a lot of gay porn you're hiding

>>42830927
nta but when I listened to that MRE stream, I figured the voice matched his twinky tall guy model

>>42830986
very cool memes

>>42830289
>The collab ban exists so the new members don't instantly attach themselves to their senpai and try to create their own brand a sense of unity within their group. You can argue the duration of it, but not having it gave us JP Gens 1 and 2 that barely interact with each other or feel like they're a group most of the time.
Eh, honestly i don't have a problem with no collab ban if this is the case. Having it just seems like it's forcing people in a group to be together and limiting the friendships and interactions they can have with other groups.
And why does there have to be specific groups anyway? Why can't they interact with whoever they want? Why be so limiting?

>>42830986
I like that the Kronii picture is just in a folder that's named "Canadian"

>>42830986
>Gardevoir folder

>>42831163
Why are you such a newfag?
Group unity is important and it allows the girls to bond like this
https://youtu.be/dOPmdqaz444

>>42831263
You just know

>>42831163
But that's not the purpose of it. After the ban is lifted a month after their debut they can collab with whoever they want, but before that it's ideal for them to create the idea that they have a sense of unity within the gen because more often than not that group will be used on official stuff such as concerts, streams, events and other things, otherwise why even debut them in gens?

>>42830411
Well it seems to me that it doesn't destroy, just changes things.
>>42830574
I forgot this meme. What is it again?
>>42830806
OK, things can be more organized but people can still have their CGDCT even when boys are around. Having boys around doesn't prevent girls from doing anything cute.
>>42830842
This is a horrible metaphor. You're comparing the genre of a show to boys existing.
With the metaphor you gave than i gotta say that HoloLive hasn't changed at all, it went from a wacky comedy show to still being a wacky comedy show just with new characters introduced, it's just that people don't like the characters just for being boys.

>>42831377
Cute girls doing cute things as a genre is fundamentaly dependent on the lack of males.

>>42831377
>I forgot this meme. What is it again?
Jesas. You never knew it. Yagoos home for broken girls.
You know literally nothing about these girls, you barely watch the content and you expect the shit to be explained to you?
Everyone else understands it because they are invested in Hololive.

>>42831377
Yeah I think you should definitely lurk more and watch thousands of hours of more hololive before you go arguing about it

>>42830116
>tfw I lead a carefree life and still don't care

>>42831310
I'm not saying it's not important, just saying that they should be bonding with other groups too.
>>42831342
So it's a business thing?
Honestly i prefer Vtuber groups when they're less of a business and more of just a group of friends.
Not saying they aren't a group of friends, just saying that there's corporate stink behind it.

>>42831377
>Well it seems to me that it doesn't destroy, just changes things.
Yes, fundamentally changing something is the same as destroying it.

>>42831748
yknow what? based I can respect it

>>42831771
Of course there's corporate stink behind it, they're part of a corporation you absolute retard. If you want just a group of friends that's what indies are for.

>>42787868
put me in the screencap

>>42831771
Then why are you watching Hololive in the first place? Also the ban doesn't preclude them from being friends with other members, just that they won't instantly ignore their genmates for their senpai days after debuting, which is the whole fucking point of debuting them in gens.

>>42831771
>Honestly i prefer Vtuber groups when they're less of a business and more of just a group of friends.

That's great! You should go watch people like vshojo or indies instead of trying to force your shitty ideologies in other things.

So basically this whole argument can be summed up as
> why doesn't this company that I'm not invested in change its product so that it caters to me?

>>42831771
>corporate stink behind it
I'm going to give your poorfag newfag ass a little treat.
What separates Hololive from everything else is the type of quality content that only money can produce.
This is the type of thing you should be looking forward to most if Hololive is actually your cup of tea.
Personally, when I first seen Korone perform at holofes, the effort and love she put into it made me cry. "This is the cute doggo girl I watch play games, she's really an idol"
https://litter.catbox.moe/22pr1m.mp4
Would have been better if it was Korone I guess, but either way if you don't like this you should seek entertainment elsewhere.

>>42831513
Well it's not like unisex streams and girls only streams can't coexists.
>>42831526
Oh yeah, broken girls, because of their hardships like Subaru's house burning down and all the other stories of hard pasts including mental issues and money problems.
These stories also come from HoloStars too, and that's why Yagoos home for broken boys is also a thing.
>>42831737
I think i know enough to know that people on /vt/ just get irrational when it comes to boys.

>>42832171
>Yagoos home for broken boys is also a thing.
No it isn't.

>>42831792
Fundamentally changing? They're just adding new rides to a theme park.

>>42832171
>These stories also come from HoloStars too, and that's why Yagoos home for broken boys is also a thing.
You literally said earlier you don't watch Holostars?

>>42831377
>This is a horrible metaphor. You're comparing the genre of a show to boys existing.
As expected you're here in bad faith and have no intention to listen to the opposition. I used those genres to emphasize how different the boys being part of the show made the core experience. No one said them existing is the problem, the collabs and thus changing the girl's content is, you know that, but you don't care cause it sounds worse if you say their existence is what's bothering people.

Since you're obviously too retarded to understand metaphors, let me put it in plain english. The genre wasn't a comedy show, it was cute GIRLS doing cute things, now its girls having a fun time with boys, they are two completely different genres and if you're too peabrained to understand that simple concept, then I'm literally arguing with a wall
You can keep pretending with your >Help me empathize with you. bullshit all you want, but you obviously have no intention of empathizing with anyone so I'm done wasting my time

>>42787868

When I first got into Hololive I thought to myself
"This doggo is so cute and she brings me a lot of joy. I want her to have lots of puppies and talk about them on stream because I bet she would sound adorable doing that" I even wrote something crazy like that in the comments of her VoD.
Now, I don't want that at all. The part about her talking about it on stream specifically.

>>42832703
The reason why is I realised I was being completely selfish. I was thinking about my short term pleasure from experiencing a positive thing.
Wasn't thinking about her career long term, her fans, anything else.

>>42831891
Yeah i know HoloLive is a corporation but i think it's best to view them as something more. They just aren't fun if they're just apart of a corporation.
>>42831932
I watch HoloLive because i like their videos and personalities.
Also i think that the whole "We gotta force these girls together or else they won't hang out with each other" mentality is just ridiculous.
In fact, the whole "senpai" thing is ridiculous too. It's ridiculous Japanese bullshit and just because someone is a "senpai" doesn't mean they are or should be more important to anyone.
And if that's the point of debuting in gens then maybe having at least some debuts that aren't gens would be a good idea.
>>42832030
Maybe it's you who needs to be less old fashioned.
>>42832060
I am invested in HoloLive and adding boys does not change it's product.
>>42832152
Oh no, i get that in fact i love. When i say corporate stink i'm talking about when higher ups try to meddle with the members lives and work. I think they should have more freedom, especially when it comes with the type and style of videos they want to make. I think that's something EN should work on because the corporate and management side of EN is just shit.

>>42832805
>It's ridiculous Japanese bullshit

>>42832193
I've seen it mentioned before when people talk about the lives of the HoloStars.
>>42832229
I was referring to what people say about HoloStars here on /vt/.

>>42832703
>even wrote something crazy like that in the comments of her VoD.
kek thats embarrassing

>>42832805
Nobody is forcing you to watch, if the "ridiculous japanese bullshit" and idol culture piss you off then you can always watch literally any other corpo/Group out there.

>>42828733
>Honestly it's the company and fans that should learn to loosen up on that stuff.
How about you learning to fuck off?

Wasn't going to say anything because I shit on Kronii too much but it's kind of funny that the meme he showed was of the girl who knew the least about Hololive

>respect is a japanese only thing
senpai dont look

>>42832253
>As expected you're here in bad faith
I'm here because i wanted to know if Altaer was getting backlash for his "for the cause" bullshit. I stayed because i know he's bad at his job and want him fired. And now i'm here because i just wanted to help expose him.
The reason i'm here is so disconnected from this discussion due to how derailed it has gotten. How did we get to this point?
>and have no intention to listen to the opposition
Hypocritical. Not to mention false since i have been listening to the opposition throughout this thread and have been growing more understanding to other while helping them understand me. I think you're only saying that because you're only paying attention to the conversation you're having and not paying attention to other conversations.
>I used those genres to emphasize how different the boys being part of the show made the core experience. No one said them existing is the problem, the collabs and thus changing the girl's content is,
Oh please, they aren't that different and the girl's videos have been the same as they always were.
This point is just paranoia and will go away one day. Wanna know why i know this? Because People used to hate on Coco for doing the same thing. When Coco first debuted fans hated her for having a different, more mature, style that wasn't idol like. Wanna know what happened? People got over it and started to love Coco.
>you know that, but you don't care cause it sounds worse if you say their existence is what's bothering people.
No, i said that because i had no reason to believe that wasn't the case. All you had to do was correct me on that.
>Since you're obviously too retarded to understand metaphors, let me put it in plain english. The genre wasn't a comedy show, it was cute GIRLS doing cute things, now its girls having a fun time with boys, they are two completely different genres and if you're too peabrained to understand that simple concept, then I'm literally arguing with a wall
OK, allow me to use my own metaphor, one that leans into yours.
The show didn't change, it's still a cute girls doing cute things show, it just got a spin off that has boys in it. The spin off does its own thing, it doesn't change the original show and they both coexist in separate timeslots.
>You can keep pretending with your >Help me empathize with you. bullshit all you want, but you obviously have no intention of empathizing with anyone so I'm done wasting my time
Now this is pessimism.

>>42833027
I know i'm not forced to watch, i just want to watch because i love HoloLive and i love the girls that make me feel happy.
You act like people can't have problems with things they enjoy. As if whenever someone likes something they can only love everything about it and never have any problems.

>>42833369
There's a difference between respect and glorifying someone just for keeping a job longer than others.

>>42833443
>>42833638
>>42833706
no one cares homobeggar

>>42834097
It's pathetic that you waited like this just to have the last word.

>>42833706
>>42833638
>>42833443
Jesus, you are either the most elaborate masterbaiter or an unironic autist.

Go back to pleddit im sure they're gonna give you a shit ton up upvotes and golds there.

>>42834097
>>42834350
>|Replying to the same posts just in different order
OK samefag.