/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42657391
Nijiniggers will always be second to hololive

>>42657391
They are though.

>hololive production
Nijiniggers not even trying anymore, no (you) for you.

>>42657391
They still are last time I checked. By a wide margin. Check google trends

>>42658083
chinkysanji...

>>42657391
Because it was aimed for baka gaijin? Do you even know what is the purpose of becoming Ambassador of Tokyo. It was to promote Tokyo to Gaijin outside.

>>42657391
they are delusional, Holo already on par with Niji in JP since like 2020 and now they completely mogged them, most of big/important sponsor are Holo, they only ahead in China and that's just because Holo left China market if we are being honest and Taiwan yab didn't happened Holo will also dominate China market

>>42658481
Nijisanji has a 'topic' under Google trends, while Hololive does not. And for clarity
>A topic is a group of search terms that share the same concept or entity, in any language.
Which means it's always going to win if you select it, since you are comparing a group of search terms vs a single one.
But picrel is a 1-to-1 comparison of 'Nijisanji' and 'Hololive', which shows the latter is far more often searched.

>>42660385
Use Blue for Hololive, you niggerfaggot

>>42661581
Don’t call me that

I'm surprised nobody has tried to make a collab with Fortnite, if shitty streamers do it and big brands like Marvel as well, how come vtubers haven't done it? It's a million dollar opportunity

>>42657391
Does NijiJP have many 5vu streamers?

>Tourism ambassdor
Do any of you even know what that means? They are meant to appeal to outsiders, using Nijisanji to appeal to Japanese fans to go to Japan makes no sense. Using Hololive to appeal to oversea fans to go to Japan does.

>>42657391
Nijisanji is a chinese company

>>42658083
What did Hololive do to appeal to a global market better than Nijisanji?

>>42664722
Unironically music. Everybody likes a nice song, even if they don't know what the words mean.

>>42664722

I think its because early on Niji appealed more to Japanese sensability while Hololive accidently turned into something that stoood out designwise to the rest of the world

While Niji sometimes hits some pretty standout designs a lot of theircharacters are "Schoolgirl" "Schoolboy" and "Schoolgirl with hat". Hololive tends toward stranger designs like Isekai magigtech elf or Devil Nurse and the normal ones also tended to evolve along fantastic lines until the Tsundere is an Elditrch abomination or the tomboy became a duck. It actually makes the complete normal ones stand out from the crowd more because now the cheerleader and singer are surrounded are the weird ones surrounded by Shine gods Phoenixes and Moonas hips

>>42664722
They gave birth to shark

>>42666689
Clippers were pumping out shit for Matsuri Fubs and Miko long before then heck even before Coco really started to resonate as the pandemic set in.

>>42664722
Mostly timing, among other things. If you weren't around in to see how the industry was in 2018 like all of /vt/ you missed out on a lot of history/context unfortunately.

>>42664722
Make good ENs

>>42664722
Meme. Not trolling. Meme are the reason why they goes viral. Their chat is basically full of meme spam, for example, Docchi Docchi for Ayame, Duck for Subaru. Hololive is the only company I know that their girl have no problem to reduce themselves into 1 dimensional meme being. Most popular Livers are meme too, Eldritch being Lulu and Greedy Gorilla Gibara. And they are both graduated. Another meme being, Suou Sango is too Japanese and too Cryptid for typical gaijin.

>>42665893
Bullshit. NIjisanji produced more cover and ori than all Vtubers companies combined.

>>42664722
exist

>>42664722
release their first EN wave at exactly the right time

>>42671957
You can't read the chat you fucking faggot.

>>42663388
Mori's roomate already did this

>>42664722
pekora, korone, miko nigger. it's all started from these 3

>>42664722
Clips. Also Miko said nigger and got a pass

>>42672023
He meant to say good music, that's the difference

>>42673592
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QzdsaXemBWM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XwZZeMNanKw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=g_vV3bE3GNo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=k9Eewd8TEWE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h41KFaq4UXc
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e0W-QW58Dy0
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sH5MVf7o_NQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Yh6hMer3h-k
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gPRwHGly1rI

>>42666200
People keep saying that nijis are like western streamers whereas holos aren't, though.

>>42676487
Who? Seanigger who cannot understand nihongo?

>>42676525
I don't know who says it, but the fact that they're not an idol company makes them more similar by itself.

>>42664722
If you want a real answer, Hololive is more anime than Nijisanji. Hololive is also more "family friendly" between the two.

>>42664722
Hololive appeals more to the global weeb market than Niji. Also Holo got a buff from clippers

>>42658083
That map kinda looks like Gura's hoodie

>>42658083
Does that take into account this anon's point?
>>42660385

>>42664722
not yabbing off cooldown

>>42664722
Hololive =marvel
Nijisanji = dc

Unironically because of the name. "Hololive" sounds much more genuine to both eop and esl ears, whereas "Ning-jing-chang-ching" doesn't stick, really.

>>42676671
They're all like western streamers because the medium is limited and repetitive.

>>42663388
Tencent and Epic Games? LOL we'll see

>>42657391
>You nijiniggers told me Nijisanji is the most popular and normie vtubers in Japan
DYRBI?

Because no one actually likes normalfags. Imagine having some stinky club goer strung out in heroin tell you they're better than you because they "have lots of sex with strangers" and that they deserve to fuck up your hobby. Clearly something went wrong with them at some point, but they need to fuck off back to twitter and stay there.

>>42664722
Nijisanji is literally a Chinese trojan horse to destroy japan from the inside.

>>42660385
>romanji
lmao

>>42664722
Coco.

>>42673477
Replace pekora with fubuki and this is the correct answer. Foobs knew western memes, miko played western games like GTA and MW2, and korone was a westaboo who actively cultivated an english audience. From niji, only Mito had any clip penetration in the west, and she was a bit too early and normal-looking to capitalise on covid.
>>42676792
>If you want a real answer, Hololive is more anime than Nijisanji
Also that. The first big surge in 2020 was from people looking to scratch the CGDCT anime itch. It's different now, but at the time there was no "moderate" weeb market for niji to appeal to. The ironic weebs thought vtubing was too cringe (if they even knew about it at all), and the hardcore otaku went to hololive.

日本人だけど、例えるなら、ホロライブは正統派マンガでにじさんじは同人誌って感じ

>>42681865
>hardcore otaku went to hololive.
Lmao. No. If by hardcore otaku you mean Love Live and AKBfag, maybe yes. But if you are talking about TRVE NIPPON who did their reps, actually nihongo jouzo and think Gaki-Tsukai is the best thing ever after Amaterasu herself, then they all went to Nijisanji. That is why Nijisanji was never popular among chinks, EOP and ESL.

>>42657391
>hololive does something
HEY NIJI NIJI NIJI
What is the reason for this bizarre inferiority complex and obsession despite niji supposedly being irrelevant?

>>42657391
>>42658083
KWABOTY moment.

>>42657391
Migo best EN girl

>>42657391
Niji is a chink company. That means they have a louder bark.

But in the end of the day, if you ignore the noise and just focus on what you yourself can see, it's pretty obvious holo is the one that's everywhere.

>>42664722
several points
>mega talents
like coco, fubuki, miko, pekora, and korone got extremely viral from 2017 to 2021. then gura came and obliterated records during covid.
>brand strength
hololive is very focused on selling itself as one package, and being apart of hololive means the girls all interact with each other - like a giant anime cast.
meanwhile nijisanji's brand feels more like a label on the back of a product.
>monopoly
they have set the standard of being 'THE VTUBER ORGANISATION'. sorta like how when you think of phones, you think Apple. or PC's and you think Microsoft.
People think 'hololive' when they think of vtubers.
>management
people think hololives management is pretty terrible, but its still magnitudes higher than other corps.
girls have to follow rules and listen. they are whipped into shape and represent the company.
this helps them get extremely popular with other brands and deals, since they have a standard
>standards
the appeal of vtubers, straight from the beginning, is live streaming anime girls. hololive, at least in JP, has never failed to deliver extremely cute and adoring anime girls for all tastes, that livestream.
even holoEN has some semblance, besides mori and her gaggle of whores, gura, kiara, irys, fauna, mumei -do try to be cute anime girls.

>>42664722
shrine maiden, dog and shark

>>42683407
>when you think of phones, you think Apple
Is this an american thing?

>>42684900
JP thing too

>tourism ambassador
holos are a natural choice since they're experts on shilling and being sellouts

>>42664722
MEMES
No seriously hololive consistently managed to take advantage of their viral hits while nijisanji consistently squanders them. That's also when niji's accelerate bites them in the ass. When a Holo goes super viral and gets a whole bunch of new eyes on them those eyes slowly filter out to the rest of the holobox. Meanwhile when a niji goes super viral the eyes they attract stays with that niji and eventually bleeds out

>>42682254
>That is why Nijisanji was never popular among chinks
Really anon?

>>42672023

>>42664722
Luck. Like ungodly amount of luck. Also, the smart to profit on those lucks

>Kawaiiope is a Japanese tourism ambassador
But you guys told me she sucks and no one likes her

>>42687168
yeah, it's not like niji constantly does shill streams for normie products.

>>42664722
nijisanji is just bad at capitalizing events that would have made them popular

>>42688746
>fujo/yumejoshit.
Might as well be completely different species. I stand corrected.

>>42690647
nijis most popular livers are because of fujo and yume shit anon and its not just en

>>42690669
I'm talking about how Nijisanji is popular in China because of Fujos who happen to live in there. Fujo/yumejo are so unhinged if Pooh decide to ban Vox for destroying purity of chinese women, Fujos will start a revolution and guillotine the shit out of Xi. And they will replace poster of Mao with Vox. They are that crazy. That is why I classed them as different species and separate them from chinkbugs.

>>42690907
60% of kuzuhas fanbase is also fujo/yumejo anon and he's the biggest nijijp liver

>>42691008
>still don't get it.

>>42691056
>he thinks theres a difference between chink and jap fujo/yumejo

>>42691107
That is what I'm talking about.
>Nijisanji is not popular among chink.
>but they are.
>Fujo/yumejos are their own species/race.

>>42690907
>Fujo/yumejo are so unhinged if Pooh decide to ban Vox for destroying purity of chinese women, Fujos will start a revolution and guillotine the shit out of Xi. And they will replace poster of Mao with Vox. They are that crazy
NTA i would love to see that and will support CCP to eridicate those Fujos and yumejos subhumans

>>42681239
Yeah, I compared it in katakana as well, problem is google trends appears to be a bit retarded. Picrel shows the 'Interest by region' for both ホロライブ and にじさんじ, with the former dominating almost everywhere. However, because にじさんじ only has data for Tokyo, when it compares them, it apparently trashes the data from every other prefecture and only compares Tokyo, rather than combining it all. Go fucking figure why.

Nijicope

にじさんじは南西アジアの王様です。インドネシアを除いて、彼らは南西アジアのすべての国を支配しています。愚かなアメリカ人やヨーロッパ人を誰が気にしますか?アジア最強パワー

Are u jealous right holo buta ?
Tell me you r fucking jealous , tell me idiot

>Hongkong

>>42695482
*東

>>42695572
>bus ad
lmao, Hololive have so many of this

>>42695572
LOL, Coco, Rushia, Myth, Miko etc. were all on Hong Kong buses. Ina and Kornii were on time square, giant Yagoo at anime con, cope faggot.