/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

PEKO-CHAN I KNEEL

Is Selen the only niji that doesn't have Twitch drama whore personality?

Did Zionspartan beat Vesper's suspension any%?

>Nornis and Kanae concert going on as scheduled while NijiEN concert cancelled due to covid
kek

>>42635852
The only ritualposter that should be allowed.

>>42635881
Her problem is she is menhera over her game skill and backseaters

>>42635886
Uh
Yes, actually. It's even worse, since unlike Vesper, who had a clear 2 week suspension, Zion's got an INDEFINITE suspension, which means god knows how long (and sounds like a potential graduation).

>>42635909
thats because jps are clean

>>42635909
None of them went on stream and posted accelerate memes and shit on their coworkers.

Why is Holo ID raping Holo En in numbers??

>Hags are always the best girls in the company and often providing important support
>Barely any hags hired by corpos
??????

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>57,917: Himawari (Nijisanji)
>42,308: Marine (Hololive)
>39,831: Miko (Hololive)
>26,043: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>23,056: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,884: Lui (Hololive)
>21,480: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>21,006: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,623: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,524: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,826: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,612: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>14,545: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,380: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14,044: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,855: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,778: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,380: Nene (Hololive)
>12,202: Nerumero (Indie)
>12,058: Botan (Hololive)
>12,018: Towa (Hololive)
>10,235: Ema (VSPO)
>10,041: Fubuki (Hololive)

>>42635886
IT JUST
KEEPS
HAPPENING
EVERY TIME SOMETHING GETS SHITPOSTED BY NIJIS IT HAPPENS TO THEM TOO BUT FASTER
MAKE IT STOP

What did we learn in the last thread?

#FREEZAION

>>42636002
I just wonder what she did. It's hard to imagine she's done anything more suspension-worthy than some of the other organs.

>>42636052
Adult women can be stubborn and want things.

>>42636018
debuting one new ID gen is more worth it than debuting 3 gen of homos

>Zion is so based that nobody is really sure what exactly got her suspended since she says really offensive jokes all the time
fine, zionhighmelaninskinnedpeople i will watch you chuuba

>>42636120
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Marine
1x: Himawari, Mito, Nijisanji

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
28x: Hololive
10x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Towa
1x: Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Subaru, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro

B-bros? What happened? I thought he was the strongest homo...

SELENFAGS WILL DEFEND THIS!

>>42636149
god is a holofag and that nijifags love to start holo vs holo in order to deflect from their dying dead branch

>>42636165
no other nijien dared state they wanted to stream harry potter

>>42636203
Who

>>42636191
he still is, but the gap is much smaller

>>42636044
Kaela is more HoloEn than tempoop and Tempiss will ever be

>>42636192
Reminder that fake tallyanon counts Z as legitimate numbers.

>>42636203
they should close niji en forever

lanza did nothing wrong

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>2/8 DAILY TALLY
14,044: Mumei (Hololive)
9,937: Kiara (Hololive)
7,109: Baelz (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: Baelz
2x: Mori
1x: Amelia, Ina, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
16p: Baelz
14p: Mori
8p: Ina
5x: Amelia, Mumei
4p: Vox, IRyS, Kiara
3p: Uki, Luca, Fauna
2p: Kronii
1p: Mysta

>>42636149
Regis has assured us that he's fighting the cause

>>42636002
Rrat: she's the one that said some of the no no things on Millie's stream so she'll take the fall since she isn't in the clique

Are ID members coming to Japan for Holofest or have they pre-recorded their session in advance?

okay which one of you assblasted literal faggots was reporting my hima lewds, only got a warning but still i know one of you did because jannies don't come here otherwise

>>42635909
I don’t see NijiJP members shitting on their new wave members or shitting on Nijisanji business practices. Although, some did get close to doing so when Salome was hot

>>42636298
NijiEN doko?

>>42636324
ID members are going to Japan.

>>42636192
Can't wait for the shitstorm in 9 months when people start arguing over that 100k when counting the number of 100k+ for each company.

GRIM

where is the thread summarizer
any new info on the chumbud cumathon?

>>42636298
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
21x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei
4x: Amelia, Baelz
3x: Mysta, Ina, Mori
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, IRyS, Finana, Millie, Luca, Kronii, Regis

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
37p: Mumei
34p: Ina
24p: Baelz
23p: Amelia, Vox, Mysta
20p: Fauna, IRyS
19p: Mori
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kronii
11p: Kiara
10p: Pomu
8p: Ike, Millie
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana
4p: Enna, Uki
3p: Sonny, Hakka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>42636044
HoloID is more Hololive than HoloEN

>>42636191
>Zatsudan stream that normally gets him 3k
Holy shit he's reclining

>>42636179
I am very interested to see what ID4 will be. Will the growth continue.

>>42636341
nijifags are not welcomed

>>42636341
>jannies don't come here otherwise
jannies have been acting p lately anon i got a warning for saying that cover is smart in leaving china

>>42636361
the 100k cope is something only nijikeks bring cause they cant win most of the days

>>42636341
you sould like a raging faggot

>>42636191
He needs a relevancy injection from one of the girls, quick!

>>42636191
He lost the favor of the other fanbases by being menhara and skipping big collabs. That’s what was happening to La+ and what awaits her if she comes back

my cute wife... is in japan again so probably no new vegas for awhile...

Kobo said ID3 3D this year

>>42636191
Drama buff ended

>>42636191
>>42636386
howw long til he starts pandering to gaybait like he did in his pl

>>42636447
>other fanbases
what other fanbases lol

>>42636388
I wonder if they will ever get a gfe chuuba

>>42636191
Unironic overlap with his direct competitor.

>>42636473
Given that six months is a reasonable span of time, it's not only reasonable but overdue

>>42636165
She let it slip that she requested Harry Potter perms to play and got told no

>>42636191
his zatsus are not interesting and is purely driven by superchats

>>42636390
Nijifags posting lewds of their girls are always welcome homo-kun

>>42636149
There was actually a based chuuba in NijiEN but she's getting terminated now

>>42636466
Wasn't she only back for like a week? Should have just lived out of hotel until cover moved her in to the holohouse

>>42636473
Zaion said Flopsoleil 4D this weekend.
That's why she got suspended btw.

>>42636473
Proof next thread?

>>42636388
Following kobo success they're going to hire more indog zoomers

>>42636341
they warn you for a reason, most lewds are okay unless you are retarded and slip a sensitive part

>>42636507
Iofi is GFE anon just learn Indonesia anon it's not that hard.

>>42636473
tier5 membership?

>>42636149

>>42636324
Ollie mentioned a bunch of ID going to Japan, that’s why she’s rushing her tournament as well iirc

>>42636447
>if she comes back
WHEN SHE COMES BACK YOU MEAN. KOYORI SAID THEY ARE A GROUP OF 5 AND LAPLUS WILL BE BACK.

Honestly though who do Kaela, Moona, Kobo and Zeta keep mogging Holo and Niji En
It feels that Holo I'd is the biggest non jo branch rn.

Current confirmed participants for the Metronome competition

Reine herself [probably]
Anya
Ollie
Fauna

MAYBE
Moona [She retweeted]


There's 3 slots that are just completely unknown, though it's also difficult to imagine which other ENs would join. The likely suspects are Ina and Bae.

>>42636341
>jannies don’t come here otherwise
I get warning and bans here when I know I wouldn’t for doing the same shit elsewhere.

>>42636607
>iofi is gfe
>literally the first homo onahole
lmao

>>42636649

>>42636583
That poses an interesting question. Is it better to keep trying to get more Kobos and just hope they don't recline like the original, or to try getting something new?

>>42636538
What happened I remember them being pretty lit and well prepared

>>42636149
male vtubing is dying in the west and that's a good thing

>>42636388
they will get their own Coco

>>42636533
This one, naked Bara is actually replacing Vesper

>>42636693
knowing cover theyll just go for something new

>>42636649
4/4 and 1/1 dog(pet)

>>42636607
What an absolute oxymoron

>>42636636
My post made it.

>>42636554
Closer to 3 weeks back already.

>>42636651
Stop being retarded anon.

https://www.youtube.com/live/dg26fgHVYu4
tenma on the telly playing kotor

>>42636697
same problem in the past being a one trick pony
also sc made his zatsu worse since it becomes a sc reading stream

>>42636298
With tonight's Kronii karaoke, that'll make it a 9x gold streak for Holo.

>>42636792
But she hasn't done shit in those 3 weeks back

>>42636636
>EN 3 is coming

>>42636583
Luckily the gens are only three people so I want to believe that they understand that one per gen is enough.

>>42636121
which happened quicker? HoloEN getting a graduation or NijiEN getting one (or even two) terminations/force graduations?

Imagine Gura accidentally leaking her character.ai logs and it's just her getting breast feed by Lui

>>42636298
>9,937: Kiara (Hololive)
>7,109: Baelz (Hololive)
what the fuck, not even 10k for two gigabuffed streams?

>>42636881
GIWTWM

>>42636838
I listened to 30 seconds, can't place the accent but it's pretty strong. She was eating a sandwich. So I turned it off.
That was probably the only time in my entire life I'll give her a chance.

>>42636852
Christmas is coming too. I believe.

>>42636907
Timezone diffy
They should've waited until the morning to do that off collab stream

>>42636203
I don't watch Niji En but man their fans are scums. How the fuck did they manage to cultivate such fanbase?

what's good about gen 7 is that the announcement could come anytime just like with HoloX

EN GOLD AH AH AH AH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l5kAq9AbGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l5kAq9AbGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l5kAq9AbGE

>>42636742
>>42636664
Looks Like someone does not have Iofi membership. If this not GFE then I don't know what is.

When will we finally get chuuba playing the best rts game in history; Tzar?

>>42636907
Gigadebuffed, you mean.
>Kiara debuff, JP timeslot debuff
>Bae debuff, JP timeslot debuff, IRyS on JP timeslot debuff (it stacks)

>>42636930
She's japanese

>>42636964
Why is she awake so early
>no bald head in the thumbnail
5k

>>42636987
>If this not GFE then I don't know what is.
you clearly dont

>>42636964
very rapeable nerd

>>42636964
MOMMY

>>42636964
Kronii has unarchived karaoke bro.

>>42636987
Doing blatant fanservice is not GFE otherwise Bae would be and she clearly fucking isn't

>>42636955

>>42637035
Yeah, he should have posted her lullaby ASMR instead

>>42636636
my sides

>>42636964
That's a 7-9k stream.

>>42636987
>the retard thinks one asmr means she is gfe
Man I hate eops so fucking much

>>42636693
Hire more kobos but don't give them freedom for the love of god, Kobo recline caused by mismanagement

>>42636951
*Ui's fanbase reflects the streamer.jpg*

>>42636964
more like EN bronze

>>42636907
NA is still the primary audience, and those streams were in some pretty unfriendly times for NA

>>42637113
Kobo seems ungovernable, she'll just do whatever she wants and what are they gonna do, fire the ID branch's Gura?

>>42637070
Will they kneel and submit to the idolchads?

>>42636845
>return zatsu
>gacha handcam
>rdr2
>superchat reading
>apex/karaoke shit
>zatsu feat. Handcam
>wax cracking asmr feat handcam
>game release stream
>sponsorshill rhythm game
>new vegas
Offstream stuff relating to holo was attempting to fix her minecraft and doing hours of recording and re-recordings.

>>42637192
9 days out of 21

>>42636930
Giga jap esl with a forced uguu voice

>>42636951
Their fanbase is full of former Holofags who need to justify preferring Niji over Holo and a bunch of sisters

>>42637180
They would IF she gave them a reason. I don't think disobeying management counts, though.

>>42637113
if everyone's a kobo, no one's a kobo. Also, indogs will all go deaf, which isn't so bad after thinking about it

>>42637245
that counts as an ugu voice? it sounds like the old lady who works my local spa

>>42636964
>Kronii karaoke
Maybe Fauna can get silver. But really, the fact that Fauna hasn’t gotten a single cripple gold this year despite being a strong EN streamer is hilarious, always some other stream upstaging her

>>42636583
Don't think they'll go specifically after zoomers, they just need their talents to speak full Indo like Kobo

>>42637345
A lot of Fauna's golds were "no one else was streaming today, but she is, so she wins by default". Which is good because that means she was streaming on absolute dead days but she was never really a hard hitter to begin with.

>>42637345
Fauna is the Ina of HoloEN, strong and steady but with a low ceiling

>>42637345
She has the most silvers out of anyone this year (6).

>>42635874
But her numbers were the weakest she's gotten this year...

Kobo is a cautionary tale. Respect unicorns like Kaela and you will recline. Collab with fags and flesh tubers and you will recline. Tale as old as time with mountains of evidence. This is a warning to anyone in EN3. I know you're here.

>>42637245
>Tenma
>Ugu voice

Bro are your ears working?
She sounds and acts like a Japanese Granny.
Which is based, because fuck all these actual Uguu chuubas.

>Holocure's update early access stream
>sub 10k
KFPinoys, what the FUCK happened???

>>42637242
I didnt mention stuff that didnt involve holo but her irl. Assuming she spent good amounts of time just recovering from jetlag the first couple days and dealing with irl stuff shes mentioned here and there.

>>42636649
I thought everything was going to be fine too when Noel and Peko mentioned Rushia during their Valentine's ASMR stream last year

>>42637340
>>42637483
lolibaba..?

>>42637483
And with her model, she really gives that lolibaba feel

M-MASAKA

>>42637509
Thats why I think she should have just stayed in a hotel or something, her body is going to be turbo fucked going back and forth like this.

oh hey the euro nijimeido just came back from work

>>42637472
>Respect unicorns like Kaela
>"Get some help"
>Flirt with Hakka in chat
>Joined Ollie's APEX tourney

>>42637472
Yep. You're a performer, your job is to entertain your audience, be there for them and not for some random dudes that happen to be in your company. Make friends with whoever you want in your own time but leave it at the door during work.

>>42637596
graduation meeting in progress please wait

>>42637499
she literally just played for the sake of playing to try to get the first time buff, dafuq was that timeslot

>>42637596
T-THAT .... CAN'T BE TRUE?

The only EN stream right now out of HoloEN, NijiEN and StarsEN is
>Vesper
(Struggling to beat 2.5k btw)

>>42637667
I think she had to go deal with her landlord at the least she got an inspection which she did well in apparently and got the go ahead for a bigger fishtank.

>>42637596
I really think that the concert getting cancelled annihilated their enthusiasm. I think Anycolor made the wrong choice and should do everything they can to bring it back.

>>42637499
cluck cope

>>42637753
Overlap hell.

>>42637186
anon they are ex idols that wanted to do idol reps

>>42637753
>Can't even incline when literally the entire big corpo EN scene isn't streaming
truly pathetic

>>42637753
It's a wednesday bro
Kaela is overlapping him bro
He streamed an hour later than his regular time bro

>>42637753
VESPER DOMINATION

>>42637753
Release Tempus 3!

>>42637070
They remind me of Ako and Riko from KissxSis.

>>42637596
>31 livers
>no one is live
Figured dead hours would be impossible for them after ACCELERATE, surprising

>>42637499
Lamy only got twice as many viewers with her early access stream, so it's not a major buff now.

>>42637784
>>42637813
>>42637846
so this is what
>vesper
>not even 3k
has evolved into in 8 months huh?

>>42637753
Over-saturated market

>>42637472
GSH

>>42637472
Kaela's doing just fine.

>>42637778
Anycolor should probably just cut everyone lose in NijiEN except Luxiem and Lazusydia. This is why ACCELERATE is such a dumb fucking strategy, you end up with a bunch of people who bring insignificant revenue but exponentially increase the drama factor

>>42637846
>Kaela is overlapping him bro
The massive Kaela/Vesper audience overlap.

>>42637753
>500 less than his average..OMG PANIK!!!
>Thinking the coomers watching HOLOEN would watch Vesper

His Sub to CCV ratio is miles better than most of the dead sub girls in your company.
If Gura didn’t have 15K pedos from her alcoholic PL, HOLOEN girls would be MIGHTY GRIM.

>>42638017
>500
You mean 1k?

>42638017
Trying too hard, sister.

>>42636149
Timeloopers are cancer. That goes double for IPO timeloopers.

Okay, maybe Watamage can cancel concerts and get someone suspended but she can't graduate or god forbid kill anyone.

>>42638075
does it matter? You know they'll bite anyway

>>42638017
>His Sub to CCV ratio is miles better
That's suspiciously similar to "Pomu grew more than Gura this year."

>>42638093
That's what the familiars are for

>>42638115
gee figured that out on your own did you?

>>42638017
>Sub to CCV ratio
kek, is this a resurrection of a niji favorite
>RATIOCOEP
?

>>42638093
>but she can't graduate
Yugo
>or god forbid kill anyone.
Yet

>>42638017
based homobro I'm tired of these whore watching fags thinking their numbers are deserved
tempus fought hard to get this numbeers unlike your WHORES

Is it possible that the noise around Zaion gets too much and she ends up graduated Yugo style? Yugo wasn't officially suspended before being terminated, right?

>>42636636
>my post made it
neat

>>42638222
very low, I don't think there's been a single moment where a corporation has fired or graduated someone because of public pressure.
then again this could be the first

>>42638222
I think she'll just be on thin ice. She'll come back and then one more rape joke and her ass is gone.

>>42638222
I hope so, niji en is getting too boring and one graduation could spice the things up

>>42638093
>kill anyone.
arent a disproportionate amount of watamates ex military? would not be surprised if they would kill a watamate anti in the future

>>42638337
it's only been three months since the last graudation

>>42638338
>spoiler
What makes you think they haven't?

>>42638315
>coco

*FINAL FEBAERARY TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>2/8 DAILY TALLY
7,109: Baelz (Hololive)

>STREAMS FOR FEBAERARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club - Day 02
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko - Day 01
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Lengends (w/ Subaru) - Day 05
4) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast - Day 06
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,109 - Offcollab (w/ IRyS) - Day 08
6) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,937 - Minecraft (w/ Sora) - Day 03
7) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,370 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 04 - Day 04
8) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,332 - Zatsudan - Day 05
9) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,303 - Learning Harry Potter Spells - Day 07

>ABOVE 10K
3

>BETWEEN 5K AND 10K
2

>BELOW 5K
4

>CRIPPLE GOLDS FOR FEBAERARY 2023
01, 02, 05, 06
TOTAL: 4

>>42638222
By the way someone summed up a bunch of things she said/done which may have been what caused the suspension

>>42638338
Watamates are all ex special forces with PTSD, yakuza, oil rig derrick operators, and bush pilots.

>>42638389
was not fired because of public pressure

As it is, Vesper would be his second lowest zatsu on record, and the first sub 3k zatsu since his return.

>>42638439
>yakuza
That's Wamy's audience.

>>42638420
Nothing brugers

>>42638387
because you need to have a body in order for it to be classified as a murder

>>42638523
considering she got indifinitely suspended like the nijien concert i dont think its a nothing burger

>>42638093
That's the wolf witch's job.

>>42638420
I won't take someone that types "bc" instead of "because" seriously.

>>42638581
Both are coming back at some point.

/NijiEN/ is unironically melting down. It's like watching a car crash, I can't look away

>>42638588
I mean tweets have a text limit

>>42638420
This suspension is turning out to be worse for her because people that are unaware of the things she said are learning everything in one go lmao

>>42638337
But graduate someone else. I'm too used to Zaion privating her VODs every week because of dumb shit. At least graduate someone bland and boring like Kotoha.

>>42638337
I hope she gets graduated for her own sake. She can't do anything fun in NijiEN

>>42638595
The same can be said for Jesus

>>42638614
That's why he's tweeting four times.

>>42638465
He was already going there long before, his suspension just delayed the inevitable. Just like EN they will start bleeding viewers soon enough. For the girls I can see a path toward recovery for the girls, but these guys not so much.

do nijiEN not brief or train people on manners and how to act before they debut them as vtubers?
trust me, in ny opinion, what she said eas funny and harmless, but you'd think they would tell them how to act on stream. who cares if they were streamers prior to joining.

>>42637708
>Flirt
lemao

>>42638588
y?

>>42638465
As it is, this is also in Vesper's bottom 10 streams
>pic related
with them being
>3 "Outer Wilds"
>3 "JP Study"
>1 "Into the Break"
>1 "Zatsu"
>1 "SC reading"
and this one

Given that the Outer wilds are very recent, is he in trouble?
>

>>42638604
what are they doing

>>42638588
based

>>42638604
Things looked pretty good in November and December.

>>42638604
You can't post that without quoting some highlights.

>>42636012
kek

>>42638673
He’s not in any trouble as long as most VG are 3 views lol.
Right now he’s getting competition from SHINRI, who’s the other turbo-autist, deep voiced boomer.

>>42638673
He is just returning to where he was before his suspension. His buff lasted way longer than I thought but mostly because he didn't stream all that much when he got back. Needs a few more streams to be sure.

>>42638673
There is a trajectory, we don't know the floor yet

>>42638673
I wouldn't read too much into the Outer Wilds numbers, despite how fun it can be to watch it isn't a stream buff afaik and Vesper's streams weren't exactly the best on them. He also managed a prety healthy 3.9k on the Streamer game after so it's just weird Tempus numbers. Might just be that there's more overlap now and people are used to stopping after a stream so don't raid at 100% rate.

>>42638420
Honestly this chick just feels like she joined the wrong corpo. None of what she's done is really that bad but it's not what NijiEN is going for

>>42638338
The TW Watamates got one of the bugs who spammed her drafted into the PLA

>>42638620
Eh, I don't think it really matters. The people who didn't watch streams will continue to not watch streams. This isn't like the chink wheelbarrows or the HL troon crusade, where the antis have a passion backing their actions.
The people who DID watch streams... Well, if they already watched her they probably were already aware of her jokes.

>>42638420
Why are they lying about not having HL perms?

I guess it's really nice to have a fanbase that's willing to defend you instead of try to tear you apart. Plenty of holos have made little yabai slip ups here and there, and their fans just paper over it and move on rather than make big grievance spreadsheets to keep in reserve until they're at their weakest. It's a huge fanbase culture difference.

>>42638837
Excuse so they don't play it on stream so they don't have to deal with the """controversy""", probably. It's an easy out.

>>42638714
Here you go.
>>42638708
>>42638670
>>42637791
>>42637524
>>42636948
>>42636680

>>42638632
Welcome her the Hololive. She can collab with males too. All she has to do is sing and dance 2 times a year.

>>42638892
JPs have permissions...

>>42638919
theres a reason people end up in nijisanji anon and thats because theyre not good enough for hololive

>>42638832
eh the difference is that the nijiEN fanbase is full of retards like pic rel. Yeah nijiEN unity isn't as strong as hololive's but putting out a notice like that is going to drive away people who would've otherwise tuned in if there's nothing to watch. And Zaion wasn't exactly a heavy hitter herself

On a barely related subject, yesterday's Kronii Fire Emblem stream also holds the dubious honor of also being in her bottom 10 for gaming streams

Here is the list
>Inscryption
>Frostpunk
>Hades
>Sayonara Wild Heart (the WORST gaming stream I ever watched top to bottom)
>Stray
>2x TOEM
>Kirby
>The Unfinished Swan
and this one, Fire Emblem Engage

This one was not caused by overlap either, quite the contrary, without the guerilla Mumei karaoke funnel it would be her first sub 4k gaming stream.
There is no other reason for this number tho except
>the game sucks
>she suck at gaming
Based on the list above, that's clearly the case, neither her nor the audience cares the littlest about this game or any other in that list.

The reason she does not get a higher number tho (like other cute but mediocre gamers) has an explanation tho: audience attrition rate causing churn.

>>42638969
JPs in Holos have permissions to play Final Fantasy but EN doesn't.

>>42638970
So Luna wasn't good enough for Hololive?

>>42635852
What now holokek

>>42639018
Correct

>>42638802
>Might just be that there's more overlap now
See >>42637753, he's literally the only EN streaming out of Holo, Stars and Niji

>>42638907
>Aaster is their buffoon
kek

>>42638996
The reason is that it's Fire Emblem long after the release and other people in the same branch playing it

>>42638837
I get the feeling NijiEN wants people to think they don't have perms but Zaion didn't get the memo

>>42639018
luna is the reason why it will never happen again

>>42638996
Kronii retweeted some Harry Potter fan art recently, I wonder if she's willing to give it a go

>>42639046
NijiEN themselves made him their buffoon because he was the punchline to one of their jokes on the 4chan stream lmao

>>42638988
This image reads like disguised satire calling "Lixeum" and Noctyx faggots.

>>42639088
Won't matter, that bitch is going to be gone for a month or two thanks to her TMJ surgery

>>42639041
he started streaming while shinri had a 1.4k stream. You can actually see a 200 viewer uptick that goes against the trend in the stream graph; I assume this is the funnel where Shinri ends stream.

>>42638874
Yeah lol even when the Kanata not collabing with the male clip exploded anyone who directly shit on her got assblasted the holo community would rather shread cover to tears then shit on the talents.

>>42638996
Which stream did FE Engage knock out of the top 10?

>>42639082
Niji fans didn't care much and Luna has thrived.

Should there be a split for Niji #s and Holo #s?

>>42638832
Nijis pandered to this type of audience specifically, it’s not like Holo where they happened to be part of the fanbase.

>>42639018
Yes but she improved herself to get into cover all vtubers final goal is being in hololive

>>42639179
No, I think one of this thread's big appeal points is that it's for discussion of the entire vtubing industry.

>>42639051
>Fire Emblem long after the release and other people in the same branch playing it
That's rarely a problem for Holos. It might lower the potential ceiling but playing the same game as others will very very very rarely lower someone's floor.
You could see that with Stray, most girls got a first play buff despite them playing across two weeks

>>42638970
that was during a time when nijisanji was less retarded
current nijisanji is on a different level

>>42639237
>all vtubers final goal is being in hololive
No true. Many of them would never join, like Honma Himawari.

>>42639136
Hell, the literal nobody got reamed yesterday in Twitter and that started with a JP Star.

>>42639260
>Bae

>>42639285
who?

>>42639244
>discussion

You mean shitposting? #s only really get talked about to shit on people instead of from an analytics perspective.

>>42639088
Anon Kroniis the last one to possibly play it

>>42639018
luna actually has enough talent to improve herself and she did improve.
someone like pomu or selen has no it factor nor do they have any entertaining qualities that will make them shine in hololive which is why they didnt pass.

>>42639285
The fox doesn't really want the grapes, they're probably sour for sure

>>42639179
Anon i know it's hard for nijiniggers to see there talents get assblasted by holos everyday but we include everyone equally here(except the twitch faggots they can die and burn in hell) so it's not a good idea to make a split

hmm

>>42639176
Diablo, collab with Kiara
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/GLYJiDDa2Bg

I find it funny that on twitter if you search for Zaion, most of them say "irrevelant liver" or hope for a total graduation, literally Niji vs Niji from the sisters.
When Vesper's got suspended there were mostly supporting him and hoped he came back soon with few trolls here there.

>>42639260
Bae was among the first and has the literal same character designer buff

>>42639336

>>42639380
Did you miss the meme 2 weeks ago?

>>42639380
literally who

>>42639380
Clickbait again? Didn't Veibae did just that?

>>42638384
>only
that's a lot

Okay faggots, I'm willing to give hololive a try, which one of these streams represents the best of it?

>>42639387
>Niji vs Niji from the sisters.
isn't this literally what everyone here predicted would happen if NijiEN accelerated like JP? I didn't expect the infighting to start so soon.

>>42639409
That doesn't change the fact that she's getting fucking mouth surgery that's going to leave her incapacitated for at LEAST a month

>>42639136
I mean, in the Kanata clip case, it also helps that the majority of Hololive talents, in JP and EN, also refuse to collab with males. Kinda stupid to try arguing against it when it's one of the brand's more defining characteristics.

>>42639447
kaela

Vesper wants to continue the TTRPG... WITH TEMPUS (for now)

He was really iffy when asked if he wants to do it with other Holo mem.

>>42639285
Any indie who says they won't join hololive if given the choice is straight up lying Unless you can reach shylili level anyone would give up an arm and a leg to join hololive

>>42639447
nowa

>>42639342
Selen and Pomu never have and never will want to be in Hololive. This is 100% true. None of the vshojo girls would want in either. I was joking about Honma because she's 'joked' about wanting to be in hololive before.

>>42639447
Luna

I find it funny that Vesper the faggot got suspended for spazzing out at Altare but sisters tried to play it as some sort of suspension for being too based
And Zaion out there making rape jokes, jew jokes and being a shotacon aka actually being based and got suspended for it

>>42639409
lol you call that "Harry Potter fan art"? anyway if you think they're gonna play it you should lurk moar

>>42639336
anon please tell me you haven't actually believe the troon shitposts?

>>42639500
>Selen and Pomu never have and never will want to be in Hololive
Selen and Pomu cant and wont pass the hololive audition anon, its why they will never be in hololive.

>>42639447
Luna's.

>>42639447
I wouldn't recommend either Kaela or Luna as an intro into Hololive, but if you want to pick one, probably Kaela

>Kaela telling her fans to wear trash bags to cosplay as Risu's nuts
Can't wait for that stream

>>42639447
who are you though? These are vastly different streams

>>42639447
Luna and it’s not even close

>>42639409
I wouldn't know this was meant to be HP fanart since the blue parts blend in so much and it's already matching her design. If the collar were green or red then it'd be more obvious

>>42639447
Kaela if you're EOP, Luna if you like cute mouth noises. Vesper's Zatsus get derailed constantly by SC niggers, would not recommend unless you're willing to pay to grab his attention.

>>42639489
>anyone would give up an arm and a leg to join hololive
No, you'd need those to be in HoloFes.

I wish they were more honest. Some small corpo girls have said they'd be gonners if any of the big boy corpos gave them a chance.

>>42639500
delusional sister

>>42639502
>>42639549
>>42639570
>recommending luna fucking fishing stream to a first timer
do you retards really?

>>42639394
I am not comparing Bae numbers with Kronii numbers and I'm also not claiming the game is not a debut.
I am saying, regardless of the game, merely being a kusoge or being tiresome after other girls played is not enough to put a gaming stream in a girl all time bottom 10.

The reason it did is because of churn in her more "loyal" fanbase. I say, one year ago, she would have beaten 6k with the same game

>>42639447
Luna is pretty indicative but I would say what Kaela is doing currently is a better indicator of Hololive generally

>>42639603
>first timer
that guy just wants to shit on vespy

>>42639447
Unironically watch clips and see which one tickles your interest then try watching their streams

>>42639409
Anon, it's called "Dark Academia" fashion.
Harry Potter did have a big hand in it's rise in the internet age, but the bases started in 1800s British colleges.

Or it might just be a posh seifuku.

>>42639447
picrel

>>42639603
Luna cute

>>42639587
>Hey Vesper, what do you think about the Twitch meta of streamer constantly interrupting the stream in order to read donations?

>>42639447
Kaela

>>42639615
I wish Ina or Fauna weren't fucking cowards because I would love to see either of them try this just to see their numbers

>>42639603
Dude her fishing streams are comfy as fuck

>>42639603
cgdct
it's the most appropriate.
>she's unintelligible
even better

>>42639615
Played 4 stages of this game and I can assure you that it's shit unless you want to fuck recolored Baes.

>>42639603
Learning to swim by jumping in the deep end.

>>42639546
I can't or won't pass a job interview to be the kicker for the Dallas Cowboys but that doesn't mean I want to be.

Pomu or Selen are your dream choices because they are better than what you have beggar.

>>42639460
We don't know if it's one month, /∞/ talked about it a bit yesterday and they said that it depends on what type of surgery she's getting, could be 2 weeks, could be more, she didn't give extra details like always.

>>42639603
>Watching Hololive for anything other than cute girls

>>42639680
>>42639703
>>42639710

it's a fucking fishing stream bro. seriously uou have one chance to make a good impression and you go with the fucking fishing stream?

>>42639525
>>42639578
>>42639646
It's a ravenclaw house robe, complete with the scarf and badge, jeez you guys need to brush up on classic literature and cinema

>>42639713
>Pomu or Selen are your dream choices
nah pomu and selen are the bottom barrel choices which is why they got in nijsanji and not hololive

>>42638420
I don't think any of these could really be considered noteworthy in hololive
Are nijifags really this fragile?

>>42639447
Wait 3 hours for Fauna if you're an EOP. She's peak HoloEN experience.

>>42639765
Keep sneeding you retard. I know it hurts you that NijiEN is where all the half decent EN vtubers end up.

so.. who anger watamage this time? or is it just your usual niji own retardation?

>>42639705
I agree with that and I had the displeasure of watching Kiara playing it for about an hour.
That doesn't change the point, this is not the worst game Kronii played and she would definitely have a higher audience for it one year ago.

The fact she almost matched Sayonara Wild Hearts shows how much her ceiling shrank

>>42637104
Yup, 7K CCV is good enough to get EN Gold most days.

>>42639801
>half decent
>cant even generate enough hype or pre sales for a concert that the company has to cancel it in order to not lose money
kek

>>42639817
>haha, let's try to get Kanata in trouble for saying she doesn't want to collab with mal-
SHEEP BALLING STOPS!

Xsoiled status?

>>42639740
Fuck that guy. If he doesn't enjoy it, it's on him.

>>42639450
In nijien's case the issue is exacerbated because you had an entirely different fanbase come in with luxiem that clashed with the fanbase that was present before, and you had nijien deliberately market themselves as "the woke company" to the woke crowd, and when you put chinkfujos, former holofags and the menally ill in the same fanbase its obviously going to cause sparks
Also they've been infighting for a long time anon, go look up the vox sonny yo mama incident

>>42638660
of course not, management just sends a link to a guidelines pdf in discord

>>42639801
>Half decent
is the reason why they are in nijien in the first place since they are only half and not truly decent

>>42638996
>>>she suck at gaming
why does /#/ pretend the EN audience cares about this? Look at Gura.

>>42639776
nijiEN deliberately courted the troons so what did you expect?

>>42639740
>be me, trying to watch or find soothing piano videos
>See Luna thumbnail with kangaroos
>Click it
>”HOLY CUTE”
>Click more Luna vids
>Become Holofan
Luna was the one that made me find out about Hololive, wtf wouldn’t I recommend her?

>>42639744
I know what it is, you're still missing critical information

>>42639923
>is the reason why they are in nijien in the first place
Because Hololive hasn't picked any girls to join since the beginning of 2021?

You know Holo JP celebrating their 5th year anniversary and Niji JP doing the same this month makes wonder realistically how many Holo EN talent or Niji EN livers will make it to their branch 5 year anniversary

[Good News] Kaela has all the mats, she's ready to start construction of a 64x64 dome

my hag wife hanatan singing stella stella
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVr7OCfr3v4

>"selen and pomu are low tier"
what the fuck is shit like Kronii and Sana?
Neither used their talents might aswell have hired workhorse streamers. The only reason neither had a chance at hololive was neither had solid work portfolios for myth auditions and council auditions came too late if council auds were november-early jan they might have had a chance.

>>42639861
>anon doesn't know that selling out a concert is how you lose money, you actually want to undersell

>>42639951
I honestly don't see any current holoEN voluntarily retiring so unless they pull a rushia, a pretty good chance
nijiEN might not exist in 5 years

>>42639678
For Ina you can just look at something like paper mario or wonderful 101. Maybe that Elder Lily game or whatever it was called as well.

>>42639342
Selen is a actually pretty good pick, she's just utterly ill-fitting to hololive

>>42639963
HOLY MOGGED

>>42639861
a) Millie cancelled the concert
b) Nijisanji isn't about that shit, especially NijiEN
c) Frew of the livers care, most are happy they don't have to keep doing shit for it

>>42639447
Luna's stream is unlisted.
She does this a lot doesn't she?

>>42639999
Paper Mario is the closest because it's an actual JRPG (technically), but it's not the same kind that Fire Emblem is

>>42639948
and that they werent good enough anon
you really think someone like selen or pomu would do better in hololive?
theres a reason why they peak early and lose viewers in the 10 - 15 minute mark, they cant be entertaining even if their life depended on it

>>42639285
>would
more like could not

>>42639489
Yoshika is probably legit about that

>>42639963
She can hold notes pretty well. Not bad.
>666 watching
not bad either.

>>42639793
>peak HoloEN experience
>Wait 3 hours
w

>>42639992
>what the fuck is shit like Kronii and Sana?
Sana was never outranked by any NjiEN girl and Kronii never failed to outrank them by at least 2k.

Bad examples right there

>>42639992
Lumping Kronii and Sana together makes you look retarded

>>42640029
i mean they should care since they might be the next id kr case if they start becoming unprofitable

>>42639963
COMET MINDCHAIR

>>42639740
Multiple people got into hololive through clip compilation of Fubuki's noises when parkouring in Minecraft anon, this shit is peak entry

>>42640048
nta but I think Pomu would do better in hololive personally. Her turbo weeb idol shit completelly clashes with the rest of the branch's audience

>>42640029
these amounts of cope are really dangerous

>>42640089

>>42640134
there's a diference between clip compilations and watching luna fish on stream

>>42639992
anon the sana line was there for a reason

>>42639992

>>42640158
Yeah, FBK clip was high energy while this is ultra chill energy, even peak Ina drawing streams got nothing on this

>>42639992
no the only reason was that both are shitters and would still have the same numbers in hololive
hell selen would be iofi tier in hololive

>>42640158
Fishing Sim is actually a buff for Luna tho.

Okay, any Bili2 anons still awake?
Could you give a rundown of the developments with exHolo Cn there and how the community reacted?
Seeing these bugmen in despair makes my peepee hard.

>>42637345
Trust the power of HoloCure

>>42640009
Can selen do a softer or cuter voice? If her normal voice could kinda soft or cute, and then have gap moe moments where she does her laughing and trash talk shit, that would probably go over pretty well. Fans love the contrast.

>>42640136
nah i think pomu would do the same numbers in hololive unless she totally changes her style
she's just to unentertaining

>>42639705
I do.

>>42640123
>unprofitable
Lol, Luxiem makes holo gen 3 money

>>42640141
No cope here.

>>42639705
I mean I wouldn't turn down fucking a recolored bae

>>42640268
Luxiem earns more than most JP girls, and Hex is becoming the new SC king

It's almost like RPG streams that aren't Pokemon or Skyrim don't attract a lot of viewers, but to say fans don't care about them is fucking dumb, then again I'm in numbers so what did I expect.

>>42640268
luxiem did
seeing as how the concert was cancelled due too poor fan response they might be doing stars level money now

>>42640268
Luxiem sisters eternally stuck in May 2022

All this bait just because Nijisanji en has a concert where their the stars while holo en does not. Plus the fact Lazulight had 3D over holo en made holo fans upset as
eye can see.

>>42640268
>>42640309
>sc
the only one making bank is riku since he gets a lions share of the amount without having to pay them

>>42640250
Not a chink but Doris said being a Holo mem is her career's highlight.

>>42636192
>1st army
pekora, marine, hima, & mito

>>42640196
Oh bull fucking shit if someone as awful as Fauna can get views then both Pomu and Selen can do better. Iofi is shit but she's also held back by the ID moniker

>>42640310
the game doesn't matter if you're an utter shitter like kiara

I heard that Sora and Kaela had a date today
Was it on Sora's stream or do I need to check Kaela's VOD too?

>>42640310
>but to say fans don't care about them is fucking dumb,
Fans outside of the girls core don't care about them ,absolutely. Nobody in EN has managed to stream them for a good amount without collapsing to their floor sooner or later, the closest you have to a counter example is Elden Ring.

>Kaela Minecraft redirected me to Fauna minecraft VOD
ALL IS GOOD IN THE WORLD!

>all these Luna "fans"
Lol and you complain that Tempus doesnt have any actual fans. Maybe you should actually watch Luna too since she is a complete 2-3k ccv runt

>>42639992
This discussion is dumb. If Pomu really wanted to go to Holo she would have waited. Her resume pre holo was walmart brand Kiara. I'm sure she would have been on the short list of people snubbed, especially if fucking Finana made the final round like she claims

She was very clear on why she wanted to go to Niji and she did.

>>42640345
>has
anon...

>>42640345
>All this bait just because Nijisanji en has a concert
had a concert anon, anycolor pulled the plug when they realized they would have poor ticket sales

>>42640345
I still can't get over them announcing something so big and then cancelling it 10 days later. Why not just postpone it?

>>42640412
Jesus christ the fucking HONKERS on that thumbnail

>>42640345
(You) had a concert

>>42639992
It's easy to shit on Kronii now that she's reclined massively. But she was, indeed, quite entertaining before bringing unnecessary drama onto herself.

>>42640395
Thats the thing anon as bad as Fauna is she's still leagues ahead from someone like Pomu or Selen which is reflected in their numbers and graphs