/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She changed her tune about coomer stuff, yuri baiting, etc. like 8 months ago now.

>>42600102
yes

>>42600102
>and why did she request it, i thought she hated gfe?
You don't know anything about Calli.

>>42600656
i don't. i go out of my way to not watch any collabs she's in

>>42600102
wait so if you people don't know anything about Mori then why do you hate her so much

>>42600278
Anon nobody here watches streams. You should know better.

>>42600837
Yeah, so why are you making up bullshit about her then?

Calli came off as fake after having such a strong stance against GFE stuff, she do have a girly side, but the 180 on lewds and yuri are coming off as weird. i am going to blame the alcohol. Feel free to tell me something i don't know.

>>42600278
Now if only she can unironically lean into the deadbraps aspect and purposely let a loud brap rip on stream, she'd be perfect and I'd unironically oshi Mori

>>42601874
>unironically lean into the deadbraps
that's asking too much. do you think management would allow a farting idol? what's next, piss and shit?

>>42601800
>>42600278
There's probably some sudden life changes that caused this

>>42601800
One of her first streams was literally one where she went on a fake date with the chat (while doing eikawa). She's also the EN that uses lewd art the most for thumbnails, schedules, and wallpapers.

>>42602002
Yeah wasn't gonna say anything but it is a bit suspicious.

>>42600102
its better than lolis

>>42600102
>was it to boost failing numbers?
Duh, why do you think she's trying to revive Takamori after spending most of 2021 trying to end it?

>>42600102
>i thought she hated gfe?
bizarre claim. If GFE means anything it means GF/date roleplay streams and Calli has done more of those than anyone in HoloEN

>>42605791
Those are mostly a deliberate joke. Shes not trying to make anyone coom with those.

>>42600102
>why did cover approve such a blatantly whorish costume?
valentines money

>>42608895
then every holo should get a whore costume, go all in on it

>>42600925
Nobody here watches Mori streams*

>outfit is whorish according to OP
>it also signifies GFE to him
Truly subhuman IQ during cataloghours

>>42611703
Whores can do GFE so it's not a contradiction at all.

>>42611703
>his gf isn't a whore
why live

>>42602005
uhuh

>>42600102
Nah, it's hot. Fuck off!

When is she doing ear licking mengen asmr like Gura

>>42602176
She lost a lot of fans, suffered through so many yabs that she got depressed and started drinking more, and all her "friends" from twitch besides iron mouse essentially dropped her once they got or failed to get what they wanted.
Also she started out doing date streams,asmrs, coomer shit. She only changed when she started befriending TT and vshojo. And now she went back to her roots.

>>42600102
I find it funny how unicorns want GFE but GFE = dressing as whorish as possible

>>42612392
>She lost a lot of fans
did people get bored of the cringe rap gimmick and move onto better tubers or was there some major yab that i managed to hear nothing of

>see M*ri
>day ruined
Don't post her, please.

>>42612392
Would be true, but then we have shut up, get happy and new underworld order

As for the generic shit, she is one of 3 myth members that powered trough what shrimps and takos had to wait out in terms of hiatuses. You think she's out keyboard crusadin' like your neety ass?

>>42612537
>was there some major yab that i managed to hear nothing of
it was death by a thousand cuts.

I think it's cute
Having her step on deadbeats where ever she goes is an interesting choice

>>42600102
Maybe you should try actually watching someone before you confidently talk about their content.
Dipshit.

>>42600102
It took you this long to realize she's a hypocrite? on her debut she said she wants to support unknown artists and only promoted her roomate's leeches.

>>42600278
Does the homocollabs timeline checks out?

>>42612785
Yes. I 100% believe she has come /here/ and tried to defend herself. She has admitted to being here and made diss tracks on her RM about what people say on twitter and here. One of her yabs had to do with her trying to own a anti on twitter. She did not power through anything she failed to power through and ended up depressed which led to her drinking and needing vacations to deal with the stress. Only difference between Takos and Chumbuds Oshis is that Mori spreads the breaks out.

why is all of myth supposedly depressed? i thought that was kronii's thing

>>42602893
First step in the pedophile jail. We all know it starts from there.

>>42613965
All of myth by their own admittance were losers and the girl who got bullied or taken advantage of in high school if they had been men they would have been incels. Every single one of them either has a mental disorder or a drinking problem.

She was one of the biggest vtubers at the beginning, now she hardly breaks 5k and her channel growth has gotten completely stale, not to mention the musical flop. No shit she would do a 360 and change tactics trying to stay relevant.

>>42600102
Nothing new, she is the Myth member who superchat baits the most, she has the most erotic thumbnails, does dating and bathtub streams, her own dakimakura, has coomerbait outfits
Ironically even though she is against idol culture she isn’t opposed to the money idol culture pays, the difference is that she wants the money without the culture.
She is therefore much closer to twitch thots than Hololive.
Ironically her superchat income is still relatively low, no matter how much she tries

>>42614108
Has she really been doing poorly? The stream numbers are whatever but donos and especially her music are the big things, her music still does really well last I checked

>>42611703
The term GFE originates from literal whores, retard.

>>42601800
I'm curious, what was that instance again? The only thing she did against the holy scriptures of gfe was... Collabing with homos? Or people consider her lean episode or anything 'letting haters live rent-free' on her head' as anti-gfe as well?

>>42614316
NTA and it's been year(s) of drama so I may be a little off. But if I remember right she stopped doing that GFE stuff for nearly all of 2022 while she was doing the Vshojo + Stars arcs. I think before the great depression of HoloEN her last "GFE" was that valentines stream in Feb.

>>42614163
Yes, her music has been affected too, not as strongly yeah but all her mvs now struggle to reach 500k and her album was somewhat of a flop, see it did very good the first 3 or so days after release but then it fell flat, no more promotions and it just vanished both from sales and from the public talk, it wasn't a complete failure but I'd say that at the very least it failed to meet expectations from everyone involved.

>>42614791
>her album was somewhat of a flop
It charted very well. Are you just trying to doompost?

>>42614490
Well, that sucks, but it's not a instance, I guess.

>>42613965
Honestly? Myth got a golden ticket. Streamed to a massive audience they were barely prepared for and after a year of doing so, got little to show for it aside from fat wallets. Eventually when other companies released more vtubers, people moved on to them. Myth saw a massive decrease in numbers
Aside from that, myth have one of the most "worker" relationships out there. Their chemistry with each other is practically non existent and a few of them, like Mori, have more chemistry with males than with the females but are punished for interacting with a male by eop westoids who think that two people of the opposite sex being on the same screen means they're dating

>>42615271
Yeah criticize Council all you want but they're much much better at pretending to be friends than Myth ever was

>>42614109
>her superchat income is still relatively low
you sure about that?
the first site that came up when i googled "superchat ranking" has her as the 14th most superchatted YouTube channel in the world since they started aggregating data in January 2020

>>42614109
>Ironically her superchat income is still relatively low
I am pretty sure she is still the most superchatted holoEN to this day.

>>42600102
dunno

>>42613794
>She did not power through anything she failed to power through and ended up depressed which led to her drinking and needing vacations to deal with the stress.
Lol. Mori produced a major label album and held a bunch of shows last year. Gura...streamed occasionally?

>>42618661
That makes the delta with the current situation that much bigger. She drove away more supas than anyone else.

>>42614791
Why lie. Universal was pleased with her album and it exceeded their expectations. She has half a million listeners on Spotify each month.

>>42621074
Nothing he said was a lie. She underperformed.

>>42600102
>was it to boost failing numbers?
Basically, yes. She doesn't like seeing her numbers and panders whenever that happens.
https://streamable.com/wc3a6c

>>42600102
>why did cover approve such a blatantly whorish costume?
some of the JPs have sluttier costumes

>>42600871
Do you have any idea where you are?

>>42614109
>superchat baits the most
>She is therefore much closer to twitch thots than Hololive
that is just triple irony, since while she is the most whorish in EN she made fun of twich thots in her nezumori stream as far as I understand
litteraly 0 self awareness

>>42601434
because he's heard terrible things about her from people who also don't watch her

Haven't watched Mori since around the TT mess. Is she much different now?

>>42624832
Mori came off as fake after having such a strong stance against GFE stuff, she does have a girly side. 180 on lewds and yuri are coming off as weird. I am going to blame the alcohol. Feel free to correct me on something I missed.

>>42624832
The more she lived in japan the more she gradually understood that its okay to be a perv and that she won't be judged like she would in the west.

>>42600102
She is a massive hypocrite, she only wants Troonii and IRyS to be self conscious about the “male gaze” while ‘lean’ing heavily in to coomerbait herself.

>>42625763
anon I don't think that works if you have a majority western fanbase

>>42625763
Wasn't she moving back to the US for tax reasons?

>>42618661
Kiara made the most in 2022

>>42626036
she's still ahead overall, isn't she

>>42600102
>why did cover approve such a blatantly whorish costume
umm, did you miss marine's costume or botan's or even okayu's 1 piece outfit?
Or is it bad because it's mori?

Lowering numbers were a wakeup call that this gig isn't going to last forever and the money to fund her personal passion projects will dry up if she loses her grip on her core fanbase. Everyone knows the majority of whales are obsessed with the talent and want to fuck them, so it's an easy go-to to make a cute negligee that panders to them.
On top of that, I want to say that she's lost touch with the TT boys and their wives because they moved on once they sucked as much of the Hololive fanbase as they could out of her, meaning she's back to having no one other than other HL talents and maybe a few music friends in Japan.

>>42626462
yes it's ok if you like the girl. Mori should have tried to be a little likable.

>>42626036
so this is the power of nijisanji acceleration...

>>42626873
Are you projecting your own irrationality there, anon? You shouldn't do that. It's very immature.

>>42615271
The chemistry thing is huge. Ive found a group of vtubers who have it and now I really just cant watch hololive anymore besides IRyS sometimes. Its a huge missing piece for myth

>>42615271
>Aside from that, myth have one of the most "worker" relationships out there
Anon you don't watch or follow them at all, stop pretending

>>42621325
Show proof then.

>why did cover approve such a blatantly whorish costume?
How new? Picrel
>i thought she hated gfe?
Again, how new?

>>42600102
She met IRyS and Suisei, literal feminities embodied. There is no way that she won't try to embrace it after she witnessed their power

>>42611917
Matsuri is literally a slut tho, like an actual slut.

>>42627740
Bud, they go on few month flings with each other here and there, but otherwise are pretty flat. Their full collabs have almost always been awkward as hell except for the big event ones, and even then there's not enough buolt between them to really make things exciting. The best we got was AmeSame and TakaMori at the start, and some AmeTori and whatever the fuck Mori and Gura were called near the middle. We're now at the point where Kiara has more chemestry with Reine and JP, Gura (when she's actually around) with Council, and Mori with the bois.
Kiara had JP energy/approch to collabing while Ame and Gura were sort of checked out, Ina was quiet, and Mori was awkward. None of it meshed well.
Watching more recent COPE streams and the first wave of tempus made me realize just how bad their chemestry was.

>>42600102
>why did cover approve such a blatantly whorish costume?

>>42628110
>>42630106
it's ok when jp does it

>>42626767
>and their wives
No I am pretty sure she is still in touch with Syd.

>>42600102
Mori's only redeeming factor has consistently been her costumes. Why complain?

>>42630309
You sure about that? I just assumed I guess because there hasn't been any 'Hanging out with X!' Posts

>>42600102
Her self-esteem improved. when girls feel better about themselves then they feel like showing off more. This is why clock hates her 1.0 model

I will forgive her when she gets a loli model.

>>42630582
She just decided to avoid doing streams WITH HER FRIENDS to avoid backlash.

>>42602002
Her egg count is in shambles and her lonely hag instinct kicked in, either breed soon or die alone. Her personality has become a lot more tolerable because of this.

>>42630860
who's gotten a loli model besides matsuri? they just get jpegs.

>>42632976
>lonely hag
>lonely
>He doesn't have Instagramm

>>42632976
She still speaks like she's talking to 5 year olds during streams and it kills me. If it weren't for that, I'd have been a lot more receptive to TakaMori.

>>42630201
Apparently it's ok when EN does it too, since Cover approved it

>>42633303
She has learned her audience is mostly composed of dents + overcompensation for turning deadbeats into a joke by ridiculing them constantly + humbled now that she realizes her rap career is never gonna take off beyond being a mediocre indie singer.

>>42627553
>>42615407
Chemistry really does make or break a company in my honest opinion and it took council coming out for me to realize how little any of myth actually had in common with each other, they were all hand picked due to something they specialized in previously but their specialties couldn't be more different from one another and their personalities in general just didn't bounce off of one another. Once you start watching people who do have chemistry with one another the magic behind Myth kinda fades away.

>>42626036
wtf happened, everyone's earnings got cut in half

>>42642906
EN market saturation and talent burnout. Also you don't feel like donating anything when they don't at least try to meet some of your expectations anymore, also doesn't help when their real thinking get expose.

>>42626036
Mori also played elden ring A LOT this year which she couldn't monetize. Kiara only played a couple times and she was always not that far behind Mori in supers. Not like it matters, apparently supers are only 10-20% of their income. They make the most off their merch by far.

>>42633285
>selling your personal info to ((((Zuckerberg))))
your don't need an account to know THAT info, anon

>>42600102
She talked about wanting a nightgown outfit over a year ago. Dunno why, guess she just wanted it.

>>42643978
Mori's fans have had a lot of merch to pay for

>>42600102
Say what you will about her but there’s no other chuuba that has been thoroughly whipped and shaped by their fanbase. Modern mori is improved in every way and knows her place more than ever. Cope and seethe

>>42602002
Did the yellow man break up with her??

>>42645359
Yeah, she must of made fucking bank this year. No way she would be able to rent her new palce in Japan as a foreigner without some impressive financials backing her. It's apparently a pretty good sized house in a pretty central place in Tokyo.

>>42646121
Welcome to like, 2 years ago. She didn’t get fatter and turn to alcohol to cope for no reason

this kills the brapper

>>42611522
Nobody here watches any stream*

>>42628425
And I love her for that.

>>42648859
>this kills the brapper
I think at the rate she going it's going to be a failed liver from all the alcohol she consumes.

>>42602002
Holofes3 + the new music deal i guess, but mostly holofes3 - she also lost a ton of weight