/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42484113
None trust none go find a indie whom will treat you right king.

>>42484113
Take the Pomu pill. She's smart enough to know her audience and she'll always treat them right.

What the fuck happened already?

>>42484113
There are other options if you want someone crazy about their fans.

>>42484113
Pomu
Selen
Petra
Rosemi
Maria
Scarle
Zaion
Kotoko
Meloco

>>42484113
Pomu's pretty good still I think.
I don't think Rosemi has had a major yab in this department at least.
No idea about the two most recent waves' girls
Other than that Selen I guess too.

Although if you would have asked me this question a day ago I would have said Elira as a suggestion so who knows really lmao

>Niji
>females
Jej

>>42484113
Yugo. But she was fired.

>>42484113
She can be entertaining from the handfull of streams i saw and i probably will watch more if she picks a game i like. Just don't get invested into EN vtubers.

>>42484113
Selen

>>42484113
Watch Pippa instead

>>42484248
>couldn't stop collabing with Luca until he literally destroyed her entire Minecraft project permanently without apologizing and she FINALLY figure out he was maybe possibly not the best person to be a cocksleeve for

No thanks, she may be "yab-free" but the people she CHOOSES to associate with are a huge red flag

Selen will save us. The commander will never betray her forces.

...right?

>>42484297
I never did my reps and now the crushing weight of karma is slamming down upon me.

>>42484730
>she FINALLY figure out
Never happened.

>>42484113
None.
Joining Niji is already a big red flag for a chuuba

>>42484482
So has there ever been a reason for her """graduating"""? (getting fired)
I've heard everything from tranny meltdown, bad numbers, breach of contract, issues with the music production of her roommate conflicting with the chuuba etc.

Also do people even pretend she ever existed?

I need a qrd about her. What happened?

>>42484113
>hates
>her fans
Just the male ones anon.

>>42485557
A bit of everything.
>tranny meltdown
https://litter.catbox.moe/ln4buo.mp4
yes
>bad numbers
yes, and the manager bothered her on stream about it on discord
>music production, roommate
Possible, but unlikely.
She also apparently went on long breaks without notifying anyone, which was likely one of the main reasons for being fired.

>Also do people even pretend she ever existed?
Any thread regarding her has a dozen of people gaslighting others that none of the stuff above ever happened. She's literally getting removed from the records.

>>42485621
Called out the horny schizos. Now the horny schizos are freaking out, shitting up the place. Just an average day here, I guess.

>>42485058
It's never too late, anon.

>>42485621
From what I'm reading someone sent Elira a horny supa that creeped her out, she told chat something along the lines of being an entertainer not your girlfriend, and as usual this place freaks out. For some context her chat schizos have been acting up over the last couple of days and the livers have been very stressed behind the scenes lately. Usually she'd laugh it off and silently bonk the chatter but I'm guessing she was at a breaking point. This is the first time she ever lashed out at anyone on stream before so everyone is freaking out.

>>42485621
>>42488751
Oh yeah one more thing: apparently the guy who sent this supa was talking about drinking earlier according to some anons so he was probably drunk when it was sent out

Elira’s literally never been GFE or accepted the parasocial freaks, what did you guys expect? Of course she’s gonna be creeped out by the parasocial weirdos. If you want to be a horny fuck go find a streamer who encourages that kind of behavior and stay away from others.

>>42488751
>being an entertainer not your girlfriend
She said friend, not girlfriend. Which doesn't really work with the messaging of calling your chat "besties" sometimes.

>>42488970
I was ready to shit on Elira but this is actually just a creepy out of nowhere comment. Maybe it didn't warrent a full on meltdown but I would not defend this guy

>>42488970
oh, so it was just fageliras being the cringe fragile fucks we always knew they were? lame

>>42484113
timestamp for her “meltdown”?

>>42490154
It could hardly even be called a meltdown tbdesu >>42486965

>>42484113
I’ve lost hope.

>>42488751
>For some context her chat schizos have been acting up over the last couple of days and the livers have been very stressed behind the scenes lately.
Can I get a bit more context on this points? I only know about the cancelled concert.

>>42484113
>hates fans of NijiEN
sounds like a sensible woman.

>>42490310
>Because i don't have mods...
Why the fuck is there a big Corpo vtuber without mods? That seems like something really basic any Niki should have

Ewiwa did us dirty this time, just remember that she also is one of Enna's friends, are you guys that surprised? what other vtuber is always pointed at when talking about hating her own fans?

>>42488970
And to think people thought famelira is a sane fanbase and there is nothing wrong with them. Fagelira indeed.

>>42489182
Unfortunately fameliras are just about the most schizophrenic parasocial fucks for the NijiEN girls.

>>42491467
You make a good point.

>>42485557
>Bad numbers
Retarded numberfaggot narrative. Half of JP and all of ID and KR would be fired if that were the case, and even if it were an EN only thing there's like a dozen members with worse numbers than Yugo. Aside from that, it's a mixture of what you mentioned.

>>42488970
That supa is actually cringe and I'm more disappointed that Elira even gave it attention tham I am in what she chose to say about it.

>>42490598
One of her Fans was mad she was making a flirting stream with Pomu.

>>42484113
none

>>42490883
Mods are a one way ticket to getting groomed

>>42484730
>Pomu
>yab-free
excuse me?

>>42484113
towa

>>42484248
>constant collabs with Luca
>offcollabed at a hotel with a guy

unwatchable

>>42484730
>"yab-free"
>/b/omu
You consider giving me the best okazu I've had in years not a yab?

>>42485881
The screenshot literally wrote that it was on June 20th while the date at that time was June 22nd. How the fuck can that be on stream, retard.

>>42495455
>constant collabs with Luca
show me the most recent one on her channel

>>42484248
>Luca's onahole
>Keeps collabing with him to 'stick it to the haters!'
Nope, she can fuck right off as well.

>>42484730
And because of this she is totally disgusted of Minecraft…

>>42489401
It's literally nothing you thin skinned faggot. Certainly nothing to get worked up over.
Grow the fuck up.

More and more Nijisanji just feels like watching the rich kids club. Their streams feel like this slough from one break to the next with empty "thank you" messages to leep the delusional fans from leaving.

>>42499246
tell that to elira lmao

>>42484113
Sewen

>>42489401
if you watched it you'd know it wasn't a meltdown
I was also expecting her to be emotional about it before i actually watched the clip, but it was definitely over blown for the sake of drama posting here.

>>42485557
>bad numbers
lol Watch the average ID stream. They might as well be streaming to the group of people in the same room.

>>42492128
you see shit like that all the time as a vtuber, how hard is it to ignore?

>>42497989
Anon, you downloaded child pornography?

>>42484113
petra is boring as drywall but she seems nice

>>42501829
what are you Canadian?

>>42484113
She lover her non binary pals thos

>>42499246
t. creepy loser sending supa's like this

>>42501829
Don't even have to download it, it's literally fucking everywhere. But yes, I did. Send me nudes of your kids when you get them, and I'll masturbate to them too.

>>42499036
>>42495455
it's very obvious neither of you ever watched her. And being at a hotel with a literal faggot (who finana invited) isn't a yab

I don't get these types. I always loved Elira since debut but never in a sexual way. Pomu on the other hand...

I don't get fucking streamers it's not hard to reign in chat and slap around a few bad apples. Never try to look at things from a collective standpoint. It just doesn't end well.

>>42484113
Selen is yabless and entertaining. Reimu and Petra are pretty much yabless but less entertaining. Pomu is somehow yabless, but her personality is so yabby that she has the potential to create the final yab.
The rest are various degrees of yab. To summarize:

The List of Sins and Demerits

The basic presumption as to determining what constitutes as a sin is that nearly all the populace regards the action presented negatively. Thus, being stinky would not constitute a sin, because some regard stinkiness highly. Being fat, or debuting in Iluna wouldn't constitute a sin either, because they are immutavle characteristics.
Feel free to debate as to the veracity and weight of the sins listed

Elira
Inconsequential Demerits:
-none
Minor Sins:
-We're not friends. We're not friends. We're not friends. We're not friends. We're not friends. We're not friends. We're not friends. We're not friends.
Full-blown Yabs:
-none

Pomu
Inconsequential Demerits:
-none
Minor Sins:
-/b/omu
Full-blown Yabs:
-none

Finana
Inconsequential Demerits:
-general lewdness
-onani no kurosawa recorder
Minor Sins:
-none
Full-blown Yabs:
-Educate yourself
-Secret Ryuugaard gaming discord

Selen
Inconsequential Demerits:
-in response to losing, has cried, berated her teammates, and ragequit
-in response to criticism, spitefully played the tutorial for an excessive amount of tjme
-spent months on an apex arc to prove she's not a boosted bitch
Minor Sins:
-none
Full-blown Yabs:
-none

Rosemi
Inconsequential Demerits:
-hesitancy and flighty nature in regard to personal interests has led some to believe she's a faker
Minor Sins:
-traitor
Full-blown Yabs:
-none

Petra
Inconsequential Demerits:
-none
Minor Sins:
-none
Full-blown Yabs:
-none

Nina
Inconsequential Demerits:
-fakeness
-doesn't play well with others
Minor Sins:
-none
Full-blown Yabs:
-gangbang off-collab with the entirety of luxiem

Enna
Inconsequential Demerits
-crassness
Minor Sins:
-none
Full-blown Yabs:
-QoS

Reimu
Inconsequential Demerits:
-none
Minor Sins:
-interrupted Vox's Discord Kitten roleplay sesh (in some Orinetal countries, regarded as a crime worthy of the death penalty)
Full-blown Yabs:
-nonr

Millie
Inconsequential Demerits:
-none
Minor Sins:
-none
Full-blown Yabs:
-Secret GC

>>42484730
>>42495455
>>42499036
>3 collabs with a coworker
You are a lunatic samefag

>>42484113
>hate her fans
She said I'm like her child. Mommy ewiwa loves me

>>42484113
Elira is still good.
>>42484248
Pomu hates her fans the most, she's just the best at hiding it until she gets backseated enough to snap.
>>42484263
tl;dr she got fed up with unicorns attacking her friends, the last straw was her known paypig attacking Pomu and a creep sending a sexual SC so she drew the lines and made /here/ seethe all night.

>>42484982
I don't believe she will, because she's competent and knows precisely the worth of the golden ticket she's been handed.
She's also been making good strides in transitioning to variety streaming and putting less emphasis on her status as an mlg gamer.

>>42502194
Based Dragoon. As a Pomie though I must say that I don't think Pomuvwould create a yab. If someone in chat superchatted her something like what Elira got she probably would have told him that his super chat should have stayed in his head or just laughed it off. I mean she got that Luca condom money superchat and made fun of the guy and moved on after barely a minute.

>>42502353
>Pomu hates her fans
she gave us a kiss just a couple of streams ago. Pomu and chat always have a fun back and forth. The only time she ever gets genuinely mad is if someone is genuinely being a dick

>>42502194
Based
>>42484982
She wont

>>42501778
she probably would've had an easier time ignoring it if she didn't get screwed over by management

>>42501951
14 year old girls naked is child porn

>>42503039
Time to burn lots of paintings and historical photos. A naked body alone isn't porn.

>>42502415
>based dragoon
H-how did you know!?

Pomu is so weird because her experimental variety focused nature is breeding ground for yabs, but she's got her head firmly in reality so she knows how to control chat, deal with troublesome coworkers (i still don't know how she manages to keep her cool around nina), and brush off crazies.
That said, it feels like her inner peace is maintained through sheer force of will, rather than personality or ideology. Thus, I fear she could snap at any time, and let Nina and Finana know what she REALLY thinks of them.
If anything, I hope she'll spare the Pomudachi from her yab, because she does have a loyal (if not a tad verbally abused) fanbase that don't come with the parasocial ideations of more parasocial chuubas

>>42502194
>all the populace
>most of the minor sins aren't talked about outside of /here/ or iketog

Honestly, I feel like the worst NijiEN yab of all time is either Fulgur leak or Vox throwing Reimu under the bus in his first attempt at a response to criticism

>>42503713
It's less about common knowledge, and more about if you gave someone the knowledge, would they regard it as a bad thing.
Those things you mentioned are yabs, but I'd have to make a male list to include them.
Though persoanlly, the Fulgur screenshot was so fucking funny in a variety of ways that I don't even consider it one
>fulgur's in-depth, unnecessary analysis
>vox's two line troll comment fanning the flames
>shu admitting to a lack of basic reading comprehension
>millie going "h-haha, yeah"
>mysterious about to pull the trigger and end it all
And the noticable absence of certain people

>>42502194
Selen never Rage quited

>>42502415
Pomu is too boomer to get into the zoomer thought spirals that make them lose perspective and throw out yabs

>>42502194
>Leaves out her meltdowns over SA2 or bantz with rpr
>Leaves out how she ghosted her coworkers to a collab, forcing them to reschedule(happened more than once, proving she is unprofessional)
Dragoons /here/ really do a go work at burying everything negative about her. Since Pomu doxx is being included, you should include Selen doxx about how she is the average SJW twitterfag, who happens to be an unironic diaper furfag.

>>42505503
>least obvious Lucuck

>>42505503
>diaper furfag
Oh its the Nijinig from thr m*in thread.
No one believes your narratives.

>>42505540
>>42505582
>dragoon defense force already here to bury everything negative about her
Typical and on cue.

>>42484248
She is the main cocksleeve to the biggest fuckboy in ninjisanji, pomu is tainted goods, she even did that Bs where she promised people an offcollab with finana and proceeded to invite some random homo to spend the night with them without any warning

>>42505631
No one believes you Nijishart, now go back

>>42505540
>>42505582
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN SHIT TALK YOUR OSHI BUT YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT OURS
A bunch of paper tigers like your oshi

>>42505684
>>42505631
>Yab thread
>name Selen getting mad at vidya
Retards
Reminder that your Ethyria whores will never be better than Selen

>>42502194
Yeah and in any group collab, pomu clings to luca like a fucking dog, he should learn to keep her on a leash

>>42505670
Seethe fagoon, you will never be a holonig and are a nijifag just like me. Selen loves Niji more than anyone else given how she is the only one to actually do her reps to reach out to JP.

>>42505744
Thats called professionalism, something the entire branch lack.
Btw i hope you enjoy the Selen Holo collabs.

>>42505744
>this kills the Nijifag
>it makes them seethe

>>42505798
>Btw i hope you enjoy the Selen Holo collabs.
I don't watch Selen, so I am neutral on it?

>>42505826
Not the case, by reading your seethe here.

>>42505729
>Ethyria whores will never be better than Selen
>Selen outwhores even Ethyria
Impressive

>>42505317
Crab Game

>>42505882
>Enna pic
WOW You defeated yourself, i didn't even need to try kek

>>42502411
Well yeah, she sucks at video games, she prolly thought she was ok, but once she became big she started being paired and compared with actual pros, and by comparison she’s dog shit, she flops hard in every competitive event she enters and then chat shits on her for it non stop. No wonder she’s trying to rebrand, she was carried to high ranks in video games by her famous friends but she isn’t good enough to actually play at the level she was brought to

>>42505873
>calling out fagoons is the same as hating Selen or Holo
Least brainrotted fagoon, thanks for admitting you hate chuubas based on /here/ schizophrenia.

>>42505919
>you hate chuubas
Said the retard who shits on Selen.

>>42505742
Holy shit dude, are you okay? You're in every thread

>>42505953
They always deflect, here and on the main thread

>>42484982
Fat chicks know the score and play by the rules.

>>42505953
>...said the voice from within the dragoons head as he fails to control his anger

>>42505996
>Ethyriatard mad because Selen is Yabless

>>42505979
>They always deflect, here and on the main thread
Yeah, dragoon always deflect immediately its hilarious, almost to the point it seems like they never have an argument and just endlessly copeseethe

>>42506056
All i see here is seething because she is literally yabless, you are probably a Milliefag seething because my oshi always stay away from drama
Its amazing to see how even the other Nijis have Lazusydia and Dragoons living rent free in their heads

>>42506114
>All i see here is seething because she is literally yabless, you are probably a Milliefag seething
>keeps changing targets
Maybe one day you will guess it right

>>42506161
Its ok Millie, maybe one day you will be as good as Selen ...........LMAO.........
You should use this thread on your next 4chin pandering stream

>all this rage because of Selen
Rent Free.

>>42506231
Yeah, dragoons can't help themselves but reply. They need to control their anger, they are like the whiteknight pentomo but more annoying since its not just 1 person.

>>42505655
>>42502353
>>42495455
Lmao, that incident is still living rent free

>>42505890
to be fair that was her at her absolute limit of wagie ragie. she was already upset because of her at the time job. It's not like she hated Finana.

>>42503371
I mean her and Nina are actually friends. They just like to mess around and Finana is like an annoying little sister who you get angry with but don't actually hate

>>42505890
How was that a yab? Pomu, Finana and even their fanbases see it as a funny Pomu mald meme.

>b-b-b-but menhera
Not a yab, threadwatcher

>>42505742
Other way around, sister

>>42505824
hey that's not fair. I love nijisanji including Selen

>>42484113
Literally none of them. A woman who cares about her audience doesn't join Nijisanji.

>>42507247
Ok Millie

>I'm not good with confrontation y'know and were not friends either in a sense... like I call you guys my besties because I trust you guys but were not friends to the extent where I can just be like Hey! you know. and I hate saying it and it sucks but were not friends at the end of the day you know but yeah like I love you guys so much, so so so much like you were my I dunno like you were like my child or something... like I don't know what its called I just love you guys so so so much but were not on like a personal level I guess in a sense to say... "my fans?" yeah i guess so but like I love you guys so so much and you are so important to me and I think about you guys first before I do like most things but we'll never be like on a friendship level which sucks but its the truth. I guess its difficult. I don't know how to describe it.

I don't know how you can interpret this as "hates her fans" without being a disingenuous shitposter. She is saying about how it sucks that the relationship won't be on the level of that of a proper friendship where you would feel more comfortable to have certain things said to you because you know the other persons intentions. Then talking about how much she loves everyone almost like they were her children and how important her viewers are to her and that she puts them before almost everything else.

>>42484113
what's wrong with hating the fans? they're disgusting

>>42502194
>-Secret Ryuugaard gaming discord
What?

>>42505744
>she is the only one to actually do her reps to reach out to JP.
Albanian...

>>42507596
You won't get spoonfed.
>>42507426
The Vtuber belongs to you. You two are "friends" or even "lovers", so of course when someone says something logical (Elira), those idiots flip out and spread rrats.

>>42507426
You realize where you are right? A place filled with socially inept retards who have nothing better to do than fake drama

>>42508090
Yes he will
>>42507596
It's the valoguards

>>42507596
Theres a public discord where finana plays valorant with fans. There is also a private version of that discord for her and only the chosen paypigs.

none. only men rules in manjisanji the girls are just accessories, pretty things to look at nothing more

>>42508396
Holy based

I know this is just a worthless shitposting thread from ESL retards that don't understand nuance, but stuff like this reminds me of how weird and possessive some fans get, lot of weirdos that tried to control Ike cause they didn't like how vulgar Vox is and didn't want them to hang out anymore till he told them to fuck off.

>>42508335
>There is also a private version of that discord for her and only the chosen paypigs.
Why is this a full blown yab?

>>42507426
I agree with half of what you said, but if you trust everything Elira said, you are living a delusion

>>42511086
Have you’ve seeing her numbers lately?
>Is a 3view now when she was easily in 4 digits on most streams
>Earns half of what she used to
>Lost tons of dedicated fans including a fan that was planning to make more projects for her after he ordered a professional body pillow if her
>Her discord can barely get people to participate in milestones
>She interacts less with her indie friends and much less her coworkers

>>42490310
Kek

>>42511086
Ughh did you forget what happened to Rushia?
>>42511525
I’m not sure how this isn’t a bad sign, people just bury their head in the sand

What the fuck are (You) guys crying about now?

>>42502194
Tourist here, what is this Enna QoS and Nina gangbang?

>NijiEN
>Good
Does not compute. Why watch vshojo-lite when vshojo exists?

>>42505038
collab with rpr and some dude

>>42512773
People have expressed the sentiment that they're worse than vshojo at this point, for a while now, and they're not wrong.

>>42512852
That's not RQ, she waited until the match ended and decided it was enough
RQ is quitting out of rage in the middle of a match
As a /v/anon you are making me cringe

>>42512730
Lies and slander that's all by sociopathic and pathological liars. They'll never provide evidence just conjecture.

>>42484113
cute

>>42510776
ESL sub-70 IQ SEAdramasister board, please understand

>NijiEN
>good
lmao

Guess she's on the list now.

>what female NijiENs are still good?
lol
There's only like 2 good NijiENs at this point

>>42484113
I love Ewiwa

>>42502415
Got a clip of the luca condom money?

>>42530807
She handled it better than the other condom money recipient lol

>>42533287
I need the clip PLEASE

>>42523075
>There's only like 2 good NijiENs at this point
Pomu's too weird for me but once again, fat purple woman good.

>>42488970
This fucker also sent cringe supa's to Mika, but she enables this behavior by getting flustered

dumb seamonkey but it'll never feel the same watching Elira anymore
goodbye FamElira..

>>42501778
But that's precisely her point you retard. She sees it too often and it makes her uncomfortable. Saying she had a meltdown is just buying into dramafag shit. She expressed how she disliked things like this, how she doesn't know how to respond to it, and that she should be stricter.
I really don't know why you faggots keep getting surprised when a vtuber draws a line between you and them. You are viewer and streamer. Using this board as a prime example, you very obviously deal with autistic or otherwise mentally ill people.
Elira even said she honestly doesn't believe people that make her uncomfortable do it out of malice.
You need to understand that a vtuber appreciating you for your support does not mean they think they're your friends or girlfriends. Even the unicorn friendly ones - they don't speak to males on-stream because they believe they're in love with you, they do it out of respect for how invested you are to them and see that as the most minimum common courtesy. If Rushia and Korone haven't given you that impression, no one will.
These girls won't save you from yourself.

>>42505917
>she flops hard in every competitive event she enters
Nah, she's done well in several, from what I've heard. I don't watch much of her Apex, but she got second in Hide and Seek and took home a prize pool.
>she was carried to high ranks in video games by her famous friends
This isn't true either. She got tired of hearing this, so she soloqueued on stream to masters or diamond or whatever
>Well yeah, she sucks at video games
Kinda true and kinda not. She has a good baseline shooting and movement skill that comes through in games like Serious Sam and Ultrakill. When it comes to game navigation and critical thinking, she prefers to just not do it and brute force/speed run through the game.

>>42506273
Nah I'm gonna autistically defend my Flight Commander to the death because she's done nothing wrong and doesn't deserve slander

>>42506366
True, I don't think it was serious, but it does show she can snap of pressured enough

>>42539479
I wouldn't call it a meltdown, but repeatedly insisting that none of the Famelira are her friends is somewhat depressing. Elira is probably the biggest GFE in NijiEN, and she deliberately cultivated parasociality. It's one thing if she insists none of the Famelira are her boyfriends, but sayibg you don't even see them as friends just needlessly breaks the illusion and punishes everybody for the sins of one drunkposter

I'll still watch Elira she's too kind for her own good but her fans need to learn their lesson. If being more strict will them snap back to reality then do it.

>>42523075
Elira sure took the Ame route

I wonder if she's still mad about her concert getting canceled.

>>42541651
But it's true. I wouldn't drop money to friend just because. Tune in at certain times to check up on them. Only have contact with them when they allow it.
She isn't your friend. She still said she loves her fans and thinks of them like as children and admits that she can't quite word it well, which I imagine every single streamer does.
Everyone always thinks that so and so is totally and deliberately being GFE on purpose. When it's more like they're being silly and having fun, and they know they can make a buck or two from being like that. If the reality that at the end of the day vtubing is a job for these people is soul-crushing for you, I'm sorry man. You unironically need real friends. Don't know what else to tell you.
You have to be retarded to watch vtubers or streamers in general expecting anything other than a good time.

>>42541980
No need to needlessly ad hominem, I'm not the type to be taken in by the parasocial aspect.
Fundamentally, I don't pay to watch horror movies where the monster turns to the camera at the end of the film and berates the viewer for thinking it was real and not just special effects.
I'm not a unicorn, but unicorns are a good litmus test for quality vtubing content.
Finally, it matters that we're talking about Elira and not Selen, or Petra, or Ina, or Mori. The latter four make a deliberate effort not to cultivate parasocial or romantically inclined fans. Elira does.

>>42544273
and yet, selen has a lot of gachikois
her split is gosling central

>>42544273
I'm not leveling the insults at you so much as I am saying why I find people like that idiotic.
And I'm not so convinced that Elira willing cultivates parasocial fans and someone like Petra doesn't.
I imagine that to you the difference is that if Petra gets flirty or parasocial or whatever, most of the time she'll laugh it off or do something to not give that impression anymore, maybe by saying how she only likes 2D boys, or by bringing up Reimu. And that since Elira usually runs with her more flirty comments, that is cultivation. I think that like with most things in life, it's a matter of perspective.
I could watch Ina and Mori and perhaps their behaviors to me, were I mentally ill enough to think like this, would lead to me to believe they're being flirty with chat. Or with me, I don't really know how such things work and make sense. I could rid myself of being responsible for how I feel by attributing my feels to the result of the behavior of a vtuber. By that same token, you could watch the very same vtuber and not feel that. Or think that. And yet you do for someone where I don't see that at all in the least.
Again anon, I really don't know what to tell you. If her setting boundaries is a deal-breaker to you, or you feel like she doesn't value in the same way, that is entirely on you. I think for a topic she brought up so on the fly and talked about after 7 fucking hours of streaming, she communicated herself well enough to convey that
>her and her viewers aren't friends
>that that doesn't mean she doesn't appreciate them
>that she can't quite put into words the love she feels for them because it is so impersonal, and likens it to a mother loving a child
Like, that word berate to me betrays you saying you're not taken by the parasocial aspect. She didn't betray anyone or anything. Or at least to me, she didn't betray anyone that can form cogent thoughts and watch a vtuber.
This is the same girl that has said she was in love, like actually in love, with Ren from vocaloid and admits to perhaps still feeling this way.
How you can hear that and still convince yourself she "cultivates" parasocial viewers is beyond me.

>>42530807
https://www.youtube.com/live/Vvpj2WNdEe4 13:05

>>42507426
This is /vt/, even if there's nothing to get mad at retards have to get mad anyway. Never in my life have I seen a board where the fucking GENERALS are the only usable threads most of the time.

>>42546072
Yeah, it's pretty awful here

>>42484113
none. embrace the cuteness and humility of small corpo vtubers or indie

>>42546140
I have no idea what the tranny jannies even do here

>>42546238
they probably all hang out in /hlgg/

>>42502411
>>42484982
If selen shits on you she'll do it deliberately and ob purpose
>it's 2026
>selen is graduating
>she's saying goodbye
>shouts "JAHAHHAHAH ALL OF YOU ARE FUCKING LOSERS, STAY LOSING LOSERS"
>closes stream so no one can respond
And that's how she gets you.

All of NijiEN is in a terrible mood right now because of the 3D shitshow. If a butterfly farts in Finana's vicinity, she'll burn down a kitten orphanage. If somebody makes a fart joke, Selen will butcher a family of 5. If Enna drops her toothbrush, she'll finally fulfill her lifelong wish to shoot herself in the head. They're upset.

Elira's just in no mood for the normal level of bullshit. Chill the fuck out.

>>42545731
vtubers play an act in their streams, that act implies a certain relatiuonship with the viewers that either doesnt exist or its just roleplay.

when u breake character and say the implicit part out loud ppl will get mad.

we knoe fauna has a bf, but ppl dig her asmrs because its all a way to escape reality. if u think viewers dont know this then u are very retarded

>>42545305
Yeah, but they know what they're getting into.

>How you can hear that and still convince yourself she "cultivates" parasocial viewers is beyond me
Well NOW we know, because she said it. Before that, there was no outright dismissal
>I imagine that to you the difference is that if Petra gets flirty or parasocial or whatever, most of the time she'll laugh it off or...
Yup, this paragraph pretty much sums up my thoughts. There will be lunatics everywhere of course, honey attracts more flies.
Let's get this straight too, there are perfectly sane individuals who enjoy GFE content. They are willing customers who will give money to girls who fit their criteria. They're not insane for wanting to talk and relate to a cute girl who shares their interests.
Disavowing these sorts of people as a chuuba just shows you don't understand what your job consists of. An idol is supposed to bring smiles to people. Do you think the phrase "We're not friends." makes anyone smile?
She can backpedal all she wants, saying that she feels a love for them that's difficult to describe. But we can all read the tone and context.
>She didn't betray anyone or anything.
She betrayed her viewers expectations, that's for sure. The only card in their deck is insisting she meant they're closer than friends, but that goes against the aforementioned context, as well as their insistence that parasocial "losers" who watch Elira because they, by god, consider her to be a friend are deviant and delusional

>>42546510
>vtubers play an act in their streams, that act implies a certain relatiuonship with the viewers that either doesnt exist or its just roleplay.
No, they don't. They merely stream. Any "implied" relationship or otherwise is your conjecture, unless the stream is something like Pomu's jail streamer chat plays a lawyer's secretary or something.
Elira saying she's been feeling uncomfortable and seeing more unhinged chat messages is not breaking character.
Breaking character would be not responding to Elira, saying her real name, what her hair color is, how much she weighs and the clothes she's wearing.

>>42546470
That would be kino.
>HAHAHAHAHAHA YOU CAUGHT FEELINGS I DIDN'T HAHAHAH I WON YOU LOST GER USED TO IT
>YOU DIPSHITS ACTUALLY GAVE MONEY TO ME? SHOWS WHAT LOSER VIRGIN BETA DORKS YOU ARE
>HAHAHHAHAHA THANKS FOR WATCHING, BYE BYEEEE LOSERS
>pic rel endcard appears
>the quiet sound of unmuted sobbing starts

>>42546729
you are pretty retarded .
theres ppl that form para social relationship with balding 40 yo anitubers and defend them in twitter literally all day long, are u this stupid to think this girls dont have any type of relationship with the viewer?
im not saying a parasocial obsessed one.
u are here defending her, for example. wasting ur fucking time defending an anime girl that gives zero fucks about u. if u didnt care and are so detatched then fuck off instead of defending her.
maybe u are so invested as her fan than u cant just accept she hates u. maybe u are invested in a parasocial relationship and are in denial

>>42546703 (me)
Meant to quote >>42545731 too

>>42546922
>the quiet sound of unmuted sobbing starts

>>42546703
Elira wasn't disavowing anyone though. The talk wasn't even about parasocial viewers. It was about people sending weird sexual superchat messages that are too personal. I don't think she meant "we're closer than friends" or that she was talking about how anyone was a loser. She was talking about how certain behaviours she has seen in chat overstep the boundaries of what is acceptable to her coming from a crowd of people on the internet as opposed to a friend you know on a personal level. She wasn't "backpedalling" she was expressing that although she loves her chat and community there are some things that are going too far to say to her and make her uncomfortable.

>>42544273
>The latter four make a deliberate effort not to cultivate parasocial or romantically inclined fans
>Selen
>doing gachikoi pandering streams from time to time
>memberships streams make her Dragoosling go wild
>her VPs are top tier GFE
huh?

>>42547001
She wasn't even "disavowing" the people that sent those superchats that lead to this. She said herself in that stream that she doesn't think anyone is doing it with ill intent and that people should just think a little more about what they are sending.

>>42547073
Selen is a cunt. She's cunt gfe. Elira stoked lewd gfe and, having hit a high point in her career, has decided her fans need to keep loving her but at a distance. Like a goddess in a temple, rather than your blue dragon gf who surrounds you with her huge girl and strokes your little human penis with the tip of her giant dragon tongue. That's not allow anymore. No dragon boobs (dragoobs) either.

Take the purple dragon pill.

>>42546930
Why do you think me denying your stupidity is defending her? My point is and has been to simply reiterate what she said. I'm not trying to change your mind so much as I'm exposing your idiocy.
Go ahead and chargeback all your superchats to Elira and cancel her membership or something lmao, I don't give a fuck.
And thank you for admitting the relationship is entirely one-sided, and not something done by the streamer.
>>42546956
But Elira is not an idol. Saying she isn't friends with her viewers is not calling them losers. Damn Elira is asleep and not streaming, she isn't making me smile. Damn she said she dislikes a game or show I like, that doesn't make me smile.
Sure dude, lonely people could indulge in this from time to time, but to be actually affected in an emotionally negative way to her reaction to constantly seeing more and more messages that make her uncomfortable and saying she doesn't know how to deal with it because it's not like her and chat are friends and she has difficulties being confrontational, or in this case speaking up for herself is the result of mental illness and no amount of coping will ever change that reality.

>>42545817
Thank you anon. You're one of the real ones

>>42547721
Why is condom money even a thing for EN i thought every girl takes the pill, it's totaly normal and for anti acne and against tummy hurt.

>>42547361
Not sure what he meant by this, I vaguely feel this is a pro-selen post, so I'm gonna wholeheartedly agree!

>>42547721
no problem, pomie I would have replied with it sooner, but it took me about 40 minutes to find where it was in video because I couldn't remember which part it happend at and my first guess was way off.

>>42502194
You can add nijien discord leak for petra and millie. petra for it being her pov on the millie stream leaking it while millie being the one hosting a 4 collab in her channel. other than that petra has nothing

>>42484982
If Selen keeps on her current path, she'll end up never betraying us. She set expectations early and stayed yabless so far.
>>42546922
Fuck you stop making me feel like shit with your fanfic

>>42546922
why are dragons so fucking gay lmao, imagine typing this fucking shit seriously

>>42484305
What about Millie ? She's just autistic

>>42484113
Someone give me a QRD

>>42505824
It makes me seethe too. That Nijisanji could have sent anybody but they picked this annoying cunt.

>>42547361
Not sure what's actually meant there but Holy Based.

>>42505655
This, it's actually insane how Pomu gets away with everything just because Pomudachis gaslight super hard every time
>nooo noo she didn't know finana was planning for a boy to crash the stream, i swear!
>look it was ONLY 3 (three) collabs with luca, not a big deal!
>i swear she totally disavows finana/enna/luca in secret, but she has to PRETEND to be their friend

>>42505655
Finana invited the faggot without telling her

>>42552469
You keep defending nijiwhores. Just drop them, you're not their friend. Women ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

>>42484113
I mean who doesn't hate vtuber fans?

>>42552509
Pomu is one of the good ones though

>>42546482
This

>>42552278
>>42552469
like clockwork kek

>>42553259
Pomu is yabby. She's alright now, but she's like a timebomb that were all hoping doesn't go off

>>42502533
>kiss
which recent stream? how would i miss that

>>42484113
>please don't sexually harass me
>OOGA BOOGA PLS STEP ON ME ELIRA
GSH

This board will call really anything GFE as long as a woman isn't being outright vitriolic to them

Rosemi is best girl.
She will NEVER break the kayfabe.

>>42505744
>trying to leech jp means you love niji