/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

First for Gura Cute!

>>42441752
Actual Previous: >>42434767

>>42441316
considering her mental health, that's probably her best option

Which one?

/#/ was kill

/#/ is reclining

>>42441837
this one is older

>>42441869
hey baby

>>42441752
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Another day another peko gold

Current Hololive First Army

Can cover find another streamer in ID4 that could replace Kobo

>All other IDs are watching Kobo's stream.
>Meanwhile Kaela is playing with Pekora, sabotaging Kobo's number.
Why is she so egoistical, bros? Is she jealous because she's only ID #2 and not ID #1?

Why are nijiniggers so obsessed with our 1st army, holobros?

>>42441869
Its doing the opposite

previous thread summary?

>>42442013
Here >>42441966

>>42441900
He looks like the comic NPC from Yakuza games.

What did we learn last thread, anon?

>>42441966
ChatGPT?

>>42441966
the jars return, it seems.

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*

>45,516: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,734: Kobo (Hololive)
>35,577: Marine (Hololive)
>29,642: Miko (Hololive)
>22,026: Okayu (Hololive)
>19,497: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,358: Iroha (Hololive)
>19,239: Anya (Hololive)
>19,065: Mio (Hololive)
>17,949: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,898: Sora (Hololive)
>17,391: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>17,329: Kana Sukoya (Nijisanji)
>17,136: Kana Sukoya (Nijisanji)
>16,904: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,881: Flare (Hololive)
>16,402: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>16,261: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,240: Chloe (Hololive)
>15,891: Risu (Hololive)
>15,867: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,159: NeruMero (Indie)
>14,689: Botan (Hololive)
>14,246: Met (VSPO)
>13,506: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>13,462: Nose (VSPO)
>13,110: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,444: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,052: Nui (Nijisanji)
>11,115: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,105: Ema (VSPO)
>10,511: Luna (Hololive)
>10,184: Bae (Hololive)
>10,074: Koyori (Hololive)

>>42441966
>hololive talents cannot be put in a single jar.
OGEY

>>42442050
Kaela is a fucking traitor. Probably because she plays with Gura.

>>42442088
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,315 - 5th Anniversary
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
1x: Marine, Nijisanji

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
27x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha, Marine, Towa, Nijisanji
1x: Hololive, Koyori, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Subaru, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro

Another day, another Pegor gold

>>42441966
>Hololive are streamers according to this thread
Nahone

>>42441966
>Hololive are streamers according to this thread.

>>42442088

>>42441966

>>42441752
Imagine if this model was given to choco-sensei
>nee~ anon-sama~ gachi?

Lukeks status?

>>42442088
>>42442214

>>42442216
>and Watame, who is the most loved Holomember
This program was coded by a fucking watamate.

>>42442253
He almost won battle vs two holos, not bad, not bad at all

>>42441977
Hard but possible, if they want a consistent 5k chuuba just make sure she speaks full indog, she will receive the power of kobo's shill

>>42442253
>9.8k
DECLINING. He got 12k last time

>>42442278
Why you wouldn't love her anon?

>>42442088

>omg I missed you guys
>I want to stream more this year
If this isn't proof that Fauna doesn't give a shit about her fans, or convince you that she's also fucking lazy, nothing will.

>>42442264
>>42442088

>>42441977
Only if they can find another EN streamer that could replace Gura.

>>42438189
For Kanata she simply loves singing alot, but she can't do karaoke as much anymore so she has been posting covers VERY frequently to make up for it.

>>42442216
Delete C, retardtachi https://www.youtube.com/live/4QubT5PreIY
>>42442088
>>42442354

>>42442355
Hey did you come here cause you got ignored in global >>42442138? How pathetic kek.

>>42442004
Success breeds jealousy, especially when you manage to be #2 just because you stream while other ENs don't, you tend to get arrogant. Honestly, I'm really disappointed in Kaela since even tho she's boring most of the time, she actually streams good games in English AND at a good time too. Hopefully ID3 can stay together and no big yab happens behind the scenes since they're already the least solid gen in ID.

>>42442355
At least she's going to suffer for it and become the runt of her gen while Bae passes her in subs.

>>42442377
Gura can't be replaced and will never be replaced, she's special. EN3 is DOA

>>42442088
8-21 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>42442355
You forgot two member streams and two collabs on other channels in the period depicted by your disingenuous screenshot

>>42442510
>runt of her gen
>subs
Have a (You) because there's nothing going on and you fags make me laugh with the sub cope.

>>42442373
>>42442088

>>42441966
what's this site?

TikTok>TFT

>>42442560
https://labs.kagi.com/ai/sum

>>42441977
You can manufacture Kobos. Get someone who speaks lots of indonesian and is a dumb toxic zoomer. Pay the Indo eceleb that shilled Kobo to shill them (but even harder).
Boom, another Kobo or close enough. Ofc, Kobo basically makes no money so why would you do that.

>>42442088
Can Kobo just play some minecraft? I wanna see the numbers

>>42442607
If it gets spread around more they're just going to shut it down or block it from being used on 4chan like everything else you know

>>42441116
that might've been nice to see.

>>42442355
She had two streams yesterday retard.

my cute wife

>>42442498
>Success breeds jealousy
>Kaela is capable of feelings of envy or any other negative emotion
:^)

>NO FIRST ARMY FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Mio (Hololive) - 43,110 - Post vacation zatsu
2) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 26,176 - Outfit reveal
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,315 - 5th Anniversary
4) Zeta (Hololive) - 30,725 - Outfit reveal
5) Kobo (Hololive) - 41,734 - Outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Mio, Gaku, Nijisanji, Zeta, Kobo

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
18x: Nijisanji
17x: Hololive
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
4x: Kuzuha
3x: Nijisanji
2x: Towa, Tohya, Choco
1x: Hololive, Nerumero, Watame, Ina, Pomu, Elira, Nozomi, Roco, Lamy, Kanata, Kana, Hibari, VOLTACTION, Ayame, Sora, Polka, Mio, Gaku, Zeta, Kobo

>>42442541
Collabs on other channels don't count because you don't have to put in any effort at all. Just show up.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>2/5 DAILY TALLY
10,184: Baelz (Hololive)
9,873: Luca (Nijisanji)
8,876: Kiara (Hololive)
7,730: IRyS (Hololive)
6,512: Mori (Hololive)
5,604: Shu (Nijisanji)
5,434: Gavis (Holostars)

>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: Baelz
1x: Amelia, Ina

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
15p: Baelz
8p: Ina
5x: Amelia
4p: Mori, Vox
3p: Uki, Luca
1p: IRyS, Kronii, Kiara

>people replying to him
stop giving him (you)s, it's why he posts here

>>42442606
Activating the boosters on the left, normal growth on the right

>>42442688
It was a zatsudan collab and wawa asked them to bring notes and slides, you literally could not be more wrong

>>42442689
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei, Amelia, Baelz
3x: Mysta, Ina
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, IRyS, Mori, Finana, Millie, Luca, Kronii, Regis

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
34p: Ina
32p: Mumei
23p: Amelia, Vox, Baelz
22p: Mysta
17p: Fauna, IRyS
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kronii
10p: Pomu
9p: Kiara
8p: Ike, Millie, Mori
7p: Regis
6p: Mori
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana
4p: Enna, Uki
3p: Sonny, Hakka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>42442088
>>42442453

uhh kaela bros?

>>42442681
>No first army
>Kuzuha and Chinman are included
??

>>42442740
>using it on the thread before it's finished and archived
rookie mistake anon, you have to let the thread simmer

Cover ought to have been focusing all its resources on:
HoloJP>HoloID>HoloEN>HoloStars>HoloPro respectively.
Because let's face it. HoloPro was a flop, a failed investment, so depressing that sisters rarely shitpost here now. Nothing much to say but to be rid of it.
HoloStars, I never observed much but probably better than HoloPro.
HoloEN could be salvaged by getting all the Japanese speakers like Bae, Ina and Irys, those with added value into the JP market. Using it to fill up the slots left by Rushia, Coco, and Aloe. Gura can still serve as the placeholder for the EN market just to headhunt potential streamers but the quality check has been so bad that streamers like Sana and Mumei get the pass. I felt that Kronii should have entered HoloKR, she could have easily made bigger waves there as she did for HoloEN. The rest of the EN seems to be doing great money wise except for Mori slacking off.
HoloID seems the "closest" in terms of generating market share, see supachat monthly. They should learn from Kaela to learn how to make indos dono, making 3 times to 18 times as much as the rest, comparable to JP second /third armies.
HoloJP, the key is to improve the bottom line and strengthen the holobox. Niji doesn't suffer penalties from graduation as much as Hololive. The last thing we need is more graduations hurting the holobox. Support the lower-tier streamers without proper cliques like Roboco,Mel, Shion.
The best market to open a new branch by far has to be in HoloTW. Because the chinese market is dominated by way more men as compared to any other markets, find out the needs and taste before debuting a new gen rather than shilling so hard because we all know why people like Gura and Kobo. No, it's not luck.If you are making a new Gura or Kobo, make sure the rm fit the avatar. HoloKR is probably at most 1-2gens compared to HoloTW probably able to hold up to 8 gens.
HoloID is a big no due to the cultural aspect of most Indians.
That being said I conclude my report for 2023.

>>42442796
No Hololive 1st army.

>>42442740
It's getting annoying already desu.
>>42442088
>>42442738

>>42442689
The january revenge

>>42442556
>>42442088

>>42442731
Holy corpcope
Peanuts>Marine Box>TFT>Kuzukek
HoloNiji mogged

>>42442811
This is why i love burger hours.

>>42442811
Is this a bot post? I genuinely don't understand in what shitpost galaxy you people exist where HoloID is doing better than EN.

>>42442811
I ain't reading that, bro. Just give me the qrd if you're not a bot.

>>42442811
Bruh your bot is sperging out.

>>42442887
>HoloID
>unquestioned dominance in Indonesia
>HoloEN
>Lucky to beat NijiEN and vshojo

>>42442608
>He think it's that easy

>>42442805
I'm just testing it out, lol. It's surprising good at making retarded rats.

https://youtu.be/GfnriasFWSU

>>42442674
>wife
bimbo

>>42442839
>>42442088

>>42442088
>>42442827

>>42442608
>Kobo basically makes no money.
She was #2 last month (not counting her big donation from the local platform).

>>42442088
Kon peko~

>>42442740
I mean, it's not wrong....

>>42442926
So you have no argument.

>>42442887
>confusing ID for India
Can be a bot or a retard. Either way, there was no brains at work here

>>42442689
>5-0
Jesus NijiEN is fucked without event huh ?

The bong from Idol.

>>42442986
>>42442088

>>42442996
>She was #2 last month
Her fucking lifetime superchats are 57,786 dollars.
What was she nr 2 in, Tempus?

>>42442811
>cultural aspect of most Indians
yeah maybe next time
https://twitter.com/hololive_in?lang=en

>>42442811
ChatGPT what the fuck are you doing here?!

>>42443106
Oh boy its starting huh

>>42443106
what the fuck is happening at jew corp?

>>42443106
What in the donation begging twitch tier garbage am i looking at

>>42443092
Today was admittedly close between Luca and Bae.
Although yeah, the other 4 days weren't even close, I don't think.

Pekora isn't arousing

>>42443106
It didn't take long for JewCorp to start living up to their nickname

>>42442608
Explain Zeta then, why did she become the runt of Gen 3 despite getting shilled harder by ID's pewdipie (and also saying a lot of "toxic" words)?

You can't reproduce Kobo just like how you can't reproduce Pekora and Gura. ID4 would still be counted as successful if they all could get Kaela's CCV or Kobo's SC.

>>42442149
>17x: Pekora
Nerf her. She's on pace for 172 golds this year.

>>42443157
Only 5k followers. Yea good luck with that, and convincing your father to let you watch Hololive.

>>42443092
They need non-stop events and for HoloEN to not stream half the time.

>>42443240
low test

Why are people mad that Kobo did well again?

>>42443207
making loads of superchat money

Can anyone please explain why Holo ID is so loved by the nips but no gives a shit about Holo En?
Maybe Indonesians are honorary Japanese people to them

>>42443355
Delivery

>>42443355
>So loved by nips
Where did you come up with that information?

>>42443106
Damn these are lame compared to Yuko but she is their Mori after all

>>42443355
Off yourself nijinigger.

>>42443324
HoloID>HoloEN>>>HoloPro/HoloStars.
But HoloJP>HoloID.

>>42443355
Holo ID has better singers and more entertaining to watch than En. Simple

>>42443144
Kobo uses Sociabuzz AND has Superchats on top of that. She has received 42k messages and donations in Sociabuzz and minimum donation allowed there is $0.70 so she makes bank bro

>>42439676
>no 3d lives
its paywalled to 'group' concert. sucking nijiniggers dry rumao

>>42443106
so they truly are jews

>>42443355
>can someone explain why [made up bullshit]
???
The amount of fucks japs give about Mori/Gura/Kiara alone mogs all of HoloID. And to be clear, it's not a lot of overall fucks for either branch.

>>42443193
ChatGPT is dumber than that.

>>42443407
No anon, she really doesn't.Provide some numbers.

>>42443442
Let's see if Mori moggs Kobo then Encuck. Just a reminder that Irys was mogged by not one but 2 ID's and Ollie and Moona would have mogged them too if it weren't for overlaps

>>42443144
What part of "last month" do you not understand, anon? You have to be 18 to use this site. Also obviously, I'm talking about ID, since the topic was about ID4 retards. She also still has at least 40k USD from the local platform (and that's only the floor; i can guarantee you she has at least 7k more, but the source is literally just trust me since it's based on my memory, so let's just ignore that).

If you really think that's useless, then sure if you compare it to other branches. But that's just ID being ID.

>>42443106
Twitch tippers are built different. Or Jew tippers... i kneel.

>>42443409
NijiJP puts on free lives though.

Literally only NijiEN doesn't put on lives. Aren't the NijiEN girls mortified by this?

>>42443106
The funniest part is that she's a British budget version of Reine(lol), her family is really rich, but not on such an obscene level. I think it's unseemly for people like her to do that kind of streaming.

>>42443240
yeah i know anon..
you told me before that you have an erectile dysfunction

>>42443473
https://sociabuzz.com/kobokanaeru/tribe
Done, look at total donations. 1$ (15k idr) is the minimum, and if you actually watch her you know a lot of donations are not the minimum.

>>42443512
She's not really rich. She's probably upper middle class. Anyways it's not her wealth.

>>42442149

>>42442088
>>42442993

>>42442278

>>42443488
Yeah yeah, we get it anon, we get it that you hate IRyS with every inch of your body. But you have been anting her for a god awfully long today. You called out by the Burgers with that religious thing to which you started throwing a tantrum. I am sure Kobo would have gotten a gazillion views from the Japanese it weren't for overlaps

>It's another indogs pretend they aren't poor time loop

Man how is NSO still a fucking buff game

>>42443355
Completely delusional. Japs love whites and hate other Asians, especially SEAs, KR, and CN.

>>42443578
The year 2023 has 12 months in it you knob. Make sure you update it everyday if you are doing this shit.

>>42443355
JPs care about ID1 (mostly Moona) but barely acknowledge the others. That doesn't translate into viewership of course.

>>42443133
>>42442088

>>42442682
Of course, do you even watch Kaela? She was fucking sad when she killed the shark in raft.

>>42443604
>Japs love white.
Mori,Gura, Fauna. LOL.

So do we all agree that an unculled super buffed pekora is xqc level?

>>42443604
Is that why Hololive has an ID branch and no US branch gay?

>>42443603
It wasn't buff for Mysta...

>>42443488
>Let's see if Mori moggs Kobo then Encuck
She uh, already has? Multiple times now? Are you insane?

>>42443355
Japanese men see Indonesian women as mail order brides

>>42443649
>>42442088

>>42443673
There has been zero proof of culling in graphs. Unless somehow you have large sample data. Nobody is going to believe this.

>>42443601
Why are irysfags so delusional and so soft?
Kronii, Mori, Ollie, Kobo, Zeta gets more hate than her, I don't see their fans crying motherfucker. It's like any legitimate criticism makes you an anti. You fags are pathetic

>>42443776
Anon, he means the permanent "cull" YT put on their numbers that forever separated what CCV is on Twitch from what it's on YT. The one from 2020.

>>42443705
I don't understand why games are debuffs for Luxiem. Even if the crazy fujos aren't gaming fans, it's still giving the streamer shit to react to.

I love cocks, dicks and penises.

>>42443736
>>42442088

>>42443257
Even if they're all Zeta level they'd still be successful. Zeta is doing better than all the earlier girls except debatably Moona, and even that is close.

>>42443800
>Ollie and Zeta get more hate than her
No one talks about either of them.

>>42443848
go to bed Millie

>>42443848
we're very well aware nijisis, and now you crave for homoballs as well

>>42443847
Because they don't CARE about any of that, it's simple as that.

>>42443601
Irys only had a overlap with Subaru. That's it. She still dropped a stinker of 33K being an En.
More Japanese fans were attracted to Kaela and Kobo and there was a overlapping hell. Korone, Kuzuha, Subaru, Pekora, AZKi, Miko and so many more were streaming >>42443602

>>42443512
How can British people be rich?

>>42443847
Games are also a debuff for Vesper. NSO is just drama bait for holo audience though.
"oh gee yaba daba zoobee he's playing a game about a lying whore haha will he reference kronii!!"

>>42443800
Why does IRyS live rent-free in your head?

>>42443848
tongue my anus

>>42443355
Probably has to do with the fact that JP-ID interactions tends to be more favorable in english as compared to JP-EN excluding the multilinguistic ENs that speak JP fluently. It gives off the feeling that IDs are more approachable and hence friendlier than say Mori, Fauna, Gura not understanding japanglish and saying huh every 5 seconds.

>>42443958
You are not a horse.

>>42443800
>Zeta gets more hate than her
??
Man no one fucking talks about Zeta. Is this from your Facebook sea groups or something?
>>42443931
Irys already wasted her "omg what's she gonna look like now" buff with the remodel, it's that simple.

>>42443847
fujos don't play games why would they want to react to iconic video game moments?

>>42443945
Remember when people were convinced holos wouldn't play the game because it was too close to home? Remember how they all played it in the first week it was released?

>>42443877
>>42442088

>>42443931
Some EN tourists were probably watching Elira, as hard as that is for this thread to accept.

>>42443946
She doesn't, i am just stating facts. She was mogged by Kobo and Kaela and would have mogged by Moona and Ollie. Tell me why do Japs not show up in her streams in that case?
Her music views are also way lesser. Me stating how ID is mogging En nowadays doesn't mean I hate Irys you snowfalke. Be 18+ to post here fag

>>42443994
Ah yes, Japs reaaaaally don't care about Gura.
And Mori.
Especially compared to HoloID.
God your examples are stupid. I think Mori might just be the most relevant EN in Japan, she sells a fuckton of her music there and she's in their literal stores.

>>42443934
It’s amazing how dumb people in this thread are

>>42444042
>>42442088

>>42443994
Flashback to Kronii retarded Japanglish.

>>42444014
If Holo fans can endure Faumei x Kiara talking entirely about girly stuff, why can't Luxiem fujos endure a backdrop for commentary?

>>42442737
>seperating Hololive and Holostars so NijiEN has a better shot at winning.
You seriously need to stop this right now. We already found a solution and yet you keep doing this with your autism.

COVER: 20
ANYCOLOR: 16

Why are we so plagued with schizos of people no one actually dislikes or has any actual reason to dislike, like Fauna, IRyS, Koyori, and Miko? Is it just people trying to be edgy contrarians? Surprised we don't have a fucking Watame schizo.

>>42444007
Then why did Fauna and Kronii get more viewers?
>>42444077
Lmao, Elira streamed before her, if anything it shows how bad her numbers are because she couldn't even get the 3D funnel

7 days 'till Goob.

>>42442355
Do you think youll ever really convince people that fauna doesnt love her fans?

>>42444165
I dislike IRyS' irrational tendency to create a stream out of thin air just to overlap the frame Bae already had up for hours.

>>42444143
A lot of Luxien fans outright cannot speak English and get pretty much nothing from a gaming stream they don't understand. That's why singing, showing their hands, interacting with other boys are the most popular content.

>>42443578
Where is Gura?
Any tier-list without Gura is useless.

>>42444131
>>42442088

>>42444082
You are being very delusional, anon. ID isn't mogging EN (except maybe Kobo). Stop being a pest and comparing apples to oranges like Kimono debuts in JP friendly times vs NA primetime, especially since Irys already wasted her relevant "this is my first time revealing a new look" buff to a whopping 92k, the most either of the two branches got in years(well, ID never touched that but w/e).

>>42444082
>She was mogged by Kobo and Kaela and would have mogged by Moona and Ollie.
So what?

>>42444165
No one wants to mess with Watamage. All you can do is go about your day and pray your oshi isnt graduated or your concert isnt canceled

>>42444165
People tend to be angry at what they cannot get in life.

>>42444173
>Then why did Fauna and Kronii get more viewers?
You know why. Irys' outfit overlapped Elira.
>Lmao, Elira streamed before her, if anything it shows how bad her numbers are because she couldn't even get the 3D funnel
See, how can you even still pretend you're not an anti? You're moments away from typing about holokeks or ensharts with your tone.

>>42444007
You are forgetting the reason that IRyS didn't have really good numbers was because Elira had taken most of the tourists with that gigashilled 3D. I am sure if she was all by herself, IRyS would have gotten around 50K. It's easy to say she lost like 20K viewers to Elira for the 3D. Also out of all the CouncilRyS Members, IRyS has the most JP viewers, which gives her the edge
>>42444077
Yes, that's literally the reason

>>42444227
I think the irrational thing is being angry about it. I've never been angry about one stream overlapping another, even if it's someone I like, UNLESS it's a special event. Like Ame and Kronii overlapping outfits. That pisses me off.

peko's thighs

I notice Vesper can get to 3k really quickly in a stream but then its like, a 1 hour slog to get 500 more CCV, maybe.

This is a very atypical pattern. NijiEN peaks fast and early. HoloEN peaks late and keeps inclining for hours, sometimes doubling what they have half an hour in.
What explains it?

HoloENfags should really take a good look at themselves if they keep losing viewerships to NijiEN, small corpos and to fucking indies

I've never seen this thread cope about underperformance for anyone as much as IRyS.

>>42444082
>ID is mogging EN in song views
Bitch most of their latest covers (except kobo) can’t even beat moom humming her bgm

>>42444165
>Surprised we don't have a fucking Watame schizo.
He's in /jp/.

>>42444398
Bots vs natural and sustained interest and viewership. This also maybe shows the lack of punctuality of EN viewers.

>>42444328
>I am sure if she was all by herself, IRyS would have gotten around 50K.
For a Kimono outfit? Lol come on.
Spam MUH NEW LOOK and no one cares. Her outfit was simply too close to her redesign for it to have a high ceiling, and yes the overlap was a factor. As for the other autist's arguments "w-well IDs were overlapped more by JPs" yeah and JP box is fucking 100k daily just for holos. Add Nijis and its absurd how many more viewers they have to go around, and thus tourists.

>>42444338
I say irrational on the basis that she clearly didn't give it any thought. Because if she had, she'd realize that she's only hurting hers and Bae's viewership for no gain, and that pushing the stream back by two hours (which is her usual slot), or even just one, would be more beneficial for both of them.

>>42444302
>You know why. Irys' outfit overlapped Elira.
Lmao, no. Elira ended hee stream before she started revealing the outfit. Stop lying faggot and blaming other things for your oshi's falilures
Also as I wrote, you are being a snowflake. You all make fun of Mori's numbers and Kronii's numbers from time to time, does that mean you hate them?
People, especially the En fags and the Pekora fags were making fun of Kobo.
Does that mean they anti Kobo?
You irysfags really love to play the victim

>>42444414
>they keep losing viewerships to NijiEN, small corpos and to fucking indies
Anon, repeating this over and over won't make it a reality.

>>42444471
>This also maybe shows the lack of punctuality of EN viewers
How so? He has EN viewers.

>>42444469
Schizos in /jp are just losers scared to be banned in /vt.

Bros, how do i save Niji ex-ID?

>>42444398
Small pool of potential viewers. Technically Vesper is doing the same thing other Holo streams do, just on a much smaller scale. Also by Niji EN you mean the guys streams peak quickly, if you look at most of the girls graphs, assuming they weren't raided or suddenly subjected to heavy overlap, they look like miniature versions of Holo streams.

>>42444533
So where did a good portion of your ccv go anon?

>>42444588
Same place a good portion of every other EN vtuber's audience went, away from vtubers entirely
Literally everyone is down from last year except Fauna for some reason

>>42444588
Never had any, I'm not a vtuber, just a humble user of this basket weaving vietnamese forum.

Man, iryskeks should really become politicians and start playing the blaming game

>>42442088
Damn Holo Minecraft is strong, but HoloRust is stronger

>>42444564
Get them to redebut in Idol Corp Gen 2 or something if they speak English. At least they'd be 3-views then.

>Elira ended her stream before she started revealing the outfit
Most blatant lie I've read in a while.

>>42444377

>>42444525
>Iryscope
Just admit your oshi is washed up afte rthe brain yab

Is the regular EN Gold guy coming back? This guy who hijacked the tally is a fag and is just copying what the main tally guy does.

Why are nijifags chimping out today? Peko dominating everybody is not news, you should've gotten used to it by now.

>>42444750
>just copying what the main tally guy does
Does that mean we'll have Z wins again?

>>42444275
>cancelled concert
That's gotta sting.

>>42444533
How do you know they didn't lose viewers? Myth was the only game in town back in 2020, there's way more competition now. I only watch Holos but NijiEN pops up in the recommended all the time on YouTube. You really think a casual vtuber watcher who isn't as crazily invested in it as this shithole isn't going to click on the Nijis sometimes? The Western streaming scene moves fast, if you stagnate you're going to suffer, and HoloEN definitely stagnated, even if they're still probably the overall strongest.

>>42444673
Elira ended like...3 minutes before IRyS showed her face. So technically true but a very small window for people to decide to go watch IRyS and catch her before the peak. IRyS probably lost 2-4k off her peak to the Elira stream.

>>42444165
>Koyori
She streams so much and during EN hours that she rubs people the wrong way. Global hates her because she is streaming during EN hours and HoloEN is nowhere to be seen.

>>42444165
I will be the Watama schizo

cope and seethe

>>42444246
>>42442088

>>42444786
Main tally doesn't do Z wins, if the Z will decide gold he doesn't count it, he's just lazy about finding Zs in the rest of the placements because they don't really matter.

>>42444655
Rust is basically gaming totsu due to in-game voice chat, that's why more people tune in to Rust streams more than MC

>>42444845
I basically summarised what you said in one sentence.

Is it only me or for the past 5 days Indonesia keks have actually been shitting on Fauna and IRyS a lot more?
I initially thought there were just your regular Nijisisters, but their English is somehow worse than the usual Council Antis

>>42444825
>How do you know they didn't lose viewers?
How do you know they did? Maybe you should show your research and put forward some arguments first, else I can just say "nuh-uh" and that would be a valid rebuttal to your baseless assertions.

>>42444750
Pretty sure he's busy watching sports during the weekends

>>42444825
There's 10X more EN speaking vtubers around than when Myth debuted. Did they lose some viewers to those? Almost certainly. But the EN market cratering in general is a much bigger factor. Most of those people simply left the vtuber ecosystem for good. If you add up all the Niji western audience and small corpos and whatnot at any given time in EN primetime it doesn't even scratch what peak Myth was doing in 2020.

>>42444909
There are no indonesia keks.

There's just /hlg/, who always were SEA anyway, and who will use any avenue to shit on EN anyway.

>>42444880
>>42442088

>>42444909
I don't study pychology but this post reeks of SEA cockfighting.

>>42444825
Because we have autists like chart anon who have done their homework and posted data, showing that generally holoEN and nijiEN actually incline and recline at the same times in response to general market trends, with holoEN remaining consistently more popular

>>42444804
They provoked Watamage. What did they expect

Here’s a clip about Miko talking about meeting Bae and the impression she left on her.

https://youtu.be/30jEG6sm93Y

>>42444831
>37K for a new outfit
Lmao, and irys keks think these are good numbers?
By that logic Ollie would have hit 15K more if Subaru, Pekora, Korone, Kuzuha and AZKi didn't streamed

When Millie comes back will her branchmates accept her with warm and open arms?

>>42444845
Why would someone hate Koyori for streaming "in EN hours"? She has fuck all overlap with EN. Her highest overlap with any individual EN is like 10%.

>>42444909
>Is it only me
your meds anon

>>42445010
Kek anon that's brutal.

>>42444958
Yeah, the Eagles are in the super bowl and he outed himself as an Eagles fan so he is probably partying right now while some fag hijacks the tally. Pretty funny.

>>42445058
yes, because they are family except mysta

But didn't some anon say that HoloEN market is bigger than HoloID. What is with the inconsistency anon?. Why does HoloID has 3 gen to HoloEN 2 gens? What gives?

>>42445031
If no one else was streaming Ollie probably would have got another 10k at least yes.

>>42444631
>for some reason
Slow and steady

>>42445065
She makes HoloEN members look like lazy pieces of shit and gets them grumbling about her having support.

>>42445010
Why are you so mean to Bae, anon?

>>42445058
Sure. She only really fucked herself over. Everyone else skated it seems.

>>42445031
Niji overlap counts but JP overlap doesn't.

>>42445107
The Superbowl isn't even until next weekend.

>>42445115
HoloEN has four gens tho.

>>42445123
Then it proves ID market>En .
End of the story faggot. Irys got 33K with no overlap
Ollie got 27K with a overlap hell

>>42445107
>EN tally anon is a full-blown normalfag
no...

>>42445010
The shark wants to leave EN box and join JP box

>>42445164
She got their concert cancelled. The one they went across the world to go record for.

Why'd Enna say Millie's in outer space? Is she going where Sana is?

>>42445175
Retrad

>>42445058
Are you asking about the weekly orgy sessions?

IRyS dragged the outfit reveal moment for a good 15 minutes, it was such a blatant numberfagging no one else can even compare

>>42445225
Kneel to the dwarf!
>likely a no life shut in that angrily faps to Flare doujin

>>42445186
>Gen 0 (Haachama, Coco, Mel, Towa)
>Gen 1 (Myth)
>Gen 2 (IRyS)
>Gen 3 (Council)
it checks out

>>42445278
She is a numbernigger who will go in another depression phase. She should rather work hard and act like a cunt because she got everything handed over to her because of Mel

>>42445278
IRyS is the best tease in Hololive

>>42444631
I've personally gone back to just regular, old youtube videos for the most part.

>>42445010
Wait Marine hugged Gura too? I thought only Koyori did that

>>42445142
>Koyori having support.
Yeah that's me holding up her medium is premium boobs. HoloJP and HoloEN management is not the same, so that argument is basically shit flinging SEA style rantposting.

>>42445429
There is no HoloEN management, that's the entire problem
They rebranded to HoloProEN and split their time between HoloEN (5%) and StarsEN (95%)

Which holomems have tried mocopi?

Got Nina on my recommendations playing Kenshi just now, checked out for a couple of minutes because I love the game but man it sure makes for a shit streaming game when you've never played it before

Got bored, so I played a little with vrabi. Bae is currently gaining subs faster than any of new homos. Aside from this she ticked also on last day of january.

Ok, I will be called an IRyStocrat for this but her antis are literally the worst possible subhumans at falseflagging. Why would anyone try to spread lies that could easily be disapproved?
Y'all can't seriously be this dumb.

>>42445429
The argument is that HoloEN would be stream machines and each one would stream 10 times a week and 1000+ hours a year if they got JP levels of support.

>>42445496
Nene

Why are people saying IRyS were numberfagging and overstalling when her stream was the standard 1 hour reveal?
On the other hand, you have the Ethyria whores that stalled for almost an hour on their 2 hours stream to squeeze the last drop of the tourist box and nobody gave a shit.

>>42445508
Time to implement the roberu off collab

>>42445391
I think this is the correct answer. Niji and indies are too twitch-like, the only other source of "curated" online video entertaiment is a certain subsection of youtubers.

>>42445566
It's unironically ok when a non Holo does it.
See how people call Fauna and IRyS numberniggers but people don't seem to talk about Mysta nowadays

>>42445680
Less than a week ago Mysta was getting shit here for his clickbaiting.

I hope indogfags could be as confident when their oshis go back to sub 3k shitter.

>>42445566
When you start the reveal process, it's customary, at least in hololive, to show your model in the 5 to 10 minutes who follow. It's also the moment where the stream incline the most. IRyS dragged this moment to over 17 minutes.

>>42444845
>global hates koyori
nice to see this retard is back.

>>42445644
So what thing outside of virtual anime girls appeal to you in youtube? Seriously.

>>42445496
oga, nene

>>42445508
The red Homo will receive a big boost from Kobo

>>42445794
i forgot iroha did a short with mocopi

>>42445769
She stalled so long her full reveal was beat by the automatic tweet and Elira had already finished her stream.

>>42445424
could've been that koyori hugged her first and left or wasn't in the room when marine hugged her

>>42443603
It isn't, retards here were looking at the homo's numbers on part 5 of a playthrough of a weird puzzle game he sucked at and claiming he was dead, he's just back to his normal numbers now

>>42445794
anon i said holomem not holopromem also other anon said koyori did it to but probably he was talking about iroha

>>42441852
cute

Man, this is some pathetic shitposting.

>>42445776
Actually go there. She is one of the most hated JPs on there.

>>42445424
That's how Koyori told it. According to Miko Marine hugged her first then Koyori copied her. There's a shitpost here but I'm not the koyoschizo.

>>42445912
Niji didn't win either tally, not much material.

>>42445854
This is almost like the Pekora meme. Koyori hugs, Marine gets horny and goes for a hug too.

>>42445953
ogey

>>42445864
last time a vamfag gaming stream did better than this was the solasta one after the return stream of the bonkening, 12/20/2022. i wouldn't say that those are his "normal" numbers

>>42445953
/hlgg/ doesn't hate a single JP, they mostly don't care about them. I know you assumed it was going to be some sort of mirror of /hlg/ where they love EN and hate JP, but alas, the hate part is missing

It’s funny that people are saying “stalling is numberfagging” in a day Risu said outright
>no 15k no reveal

>>42445489
>rebranded
??

>>42446107
Both can be true, nice argument.

>>42446090
>/hlgg/ doesn't hate a single JP
Try again retard, they hate Koyori.

>>42446090
I feel like a lot of people do actually resent Ayame and Laplus.

>>42446179
Sure thing mate. Anything to further your schizo narrative about EN sharts and how they hate hard work and stream and whatever

>>42446085
They're the numbers he gets while doing basic "zatsudan" streams where he just reads superchats 90% of the time. I think the only game he has streamed since Solasta was Outer Wilds which is a questionable stream game and he made it worse by being shit at it.

>>42446107
And she was called out for it.

There are people in /#/ who think that numberfagging is bad.

>>42446192
Anyone who wants a streamer to stream has long since dropped Ayame and Lapu and doesn't even post about them.

>>42446192
Is it the same kind of "resentment" as shitposters posting "no delivery" for Gura?

>>42446257
seethe

>>42446226
See
>>42446303

>>42446341
Shit, I mean
>>42446304

>>42446365
looks like everyone ignored you mate, that's pretty sad

>>42446260
No, as in "she had all the opportunity in the world but squandered it with a rotten attitude"
Most JPs have some baseline good will. Laplus has no good will.

>>42446365
I don't really know how to reply to this retardation.

threads pretty slow are you all having fun arguing with koyoschizo

>>42446365
>>42446341
Are you having a laff mate? Is this a joke? I chuckled if it was

>>42446159
EN management always used to be referred to as Hololive English. They even announced the Stars auditions initially as "male vtubers for Hololive English", with no holostars or "hololive production" branding anywhere.
They changed everything to "Hololive Production English" shortly before Tempus debuted.

>>42446257
Numberfagging is like smoking
It's pointless, a complete waste, it's giving me cancer but I can't stop

>>42446192
It got to the point people were actually writing salty comments on Ayame clips and getting a decent amount of likes for them. I think it's mostly died off now that she streams again.

>>42446463
Having fun ogling Selen's BIG ass as she eats the entire NijiEN budget on top of dinner.

>>42446529
>>42446192
Anons you sure you're not confusing /hlgg/ with /vt/ schizos in general?
They're in /hlgg/ yes but they mostly get told to fuck off, /hlgg/ is incredibly defensive of any holo. This thread shits on holos a lot more, and yes that includes Koyori since we have a dedicated schizo for her.

>>42446552
Hot

>>42446593
I bet it does, Selen. Meet me downstairs.

>>42446585
I guess yeah, I am. I don't actually go into /hlgg/ proper very often. It's just too fast to really have any coherent conversation most of the time.

>>42446552
uhhh based

>>42446585
Funnily enough this thread could also be “/become/ 2.0” because every action ends up causing a reaction and the Triple Lamyverse got a posse here.

>>42446463
More fun than I've ever had talking to you.

>>42446585
>/hlgg/ is incredibly defensive of any holo
something something about Pekora being soulless corpo numberfag

>>42446719
Truly the RGB color channels of vtubing.

Why does Fulgur, the largest NijiEN, not simply eat the other Nijis?

>>42446257
I'm here for vtubing news primarily. Numbers got boring a long time ago.

>>42446778
It would be CMYK but the lightness channel (Zeta, silver Lamy in training) got demoted, depowered and expelled

You cannot dispute this:
/hlgg collectively hates /#, except for a small subset of weirdos that uses both threads. Presumably to shitpost.

>>42446807
He's too slow to catch them.

>>42445953
If you're talking about holoxschizo, he is only one singular retard

>>42446865
Everyone hates us because their experience is some random shitposter taking some bait and spamming it in their thread, annoying everyone. That and endless braindead catalogue posts.

>>42446865
I'm pretty sure everyone but us hates this thread.

>>42444188
UOH!!!

>>42446865
absolutely, /hlgg/ is a numberfag anti. to be fair the first 8 months of /hlgg/ were frequently hijacked by numberfaggin shitposts

>>42446940
>but us

>>42446865
Everyone on vt hates numbers. The concept of numbers drives tribalist wedges everywhere in the community making it more toxic environment since it just spills into catalog

>>42446940
I only use this thread and I hate this thread too

>>42442689
luxiem doko

>>42446865
The whole fandom does hate this place and it’s pretty much a case of
>they hated him because they told them the truth
with regards to the basic metrics of the chuubas: subs growth, vod views growth, live audience, known and estimated revenue.
I hate containment breakers from this place as well

It's simple: IRyS underperformed because redjuice sucks

>>42446940
>but us

>>42447007
Luca and Shu are right there, anon.

>>42446585
the only reason why global don't get JP shitposting is that noone gives a fuck enough about JP Holos there, JP hours there are just slow EN hours mixed with blog hours and like 3-4 people talking about JP

>>42446865
Why wouldn't you use both threads? No one's going to know you post in both, or other threads for that matter unless you're a retard and decide to numberfag outside of here

>>42447096
Yes. So they don't hate them.

>>42446742
i have fun posting with you guys all the time though

>>42446865
A while back, there was a nousagi numberfaggot (or he was just pretending to be a nousagi) who spammed /hlgg/ with Peko's numbers to shit on Gura at every opportunity, and he became the embodiment of /#/ in their eyes. They hated numbers ever since.

>No HoloEN public streams scheduled for today
>No statement on Twitter
Another meeting?

>>42446483
Dunno i see holostars and hololive branding on members twitter accounts, the holopro one has "Official Twitter account for hololive English and HOLOSTARS English", same as the main hololive twitter account that tweets about stars and hololive
The members are still on their respective groups talent pages on the main website as well and seem to be advertising auditions seperately since they keep doing reminders for holostars specifically

>>42447247
It's gonna be monday morning in Japan soon so maybe

>>42446940
I hate everyone who posts in this thread except the autistic chart compilers and armchair business analysts too
At least we still get occasional brief glimpses of how it used to be, like how the shitposters were drowned out by screenshots of tits during Lain's 3D

>>42447247
do the homos have some event happening?

What happened to the red homo, he is inclining massively and has 800 viewers right now, are we entering a new golden age for tempus?

>>42447247
There's a Fauna and Kronii one (3pm PST, 8pm PST) but the frames aren't up yet, unless something's changed that I'm not aware of.

>>42447341
>kobo collab soon

>>42447239
Nah, a way bigger factor is that Ame and Kiara (the thread's darlings) plummeted off the cliff in terms of numbers, and numberfags would shit on them.

the only reason why this thread still exist is because the trannyjanny posts here

>>42447014
>Truth
Fuck off number discussion is miniscule this thread is mostly filled with
-schizo posting
-emotionally charged hate posting
-most vile rrats
-Same stupid fights all day every day
This place is breeding ground for tribalism and anti posting

>>42447341
>inclining massively
>800 viewers
Grim

That’s something I didn’t count on seeing
>Neo Porte with an unironic 2 views
He seems to have either bled a raid or bled his whole audience all the way into where he is now.
The contrast between VSPO and Neo Porte is incredible, the later managed to outrank even Uyu in a race to the bottom of the table.

>>42447540
You should learn how to ignore schizos

>>42447543
See, small numbers are actually good. When you go from sub 500 to 800, it looks massive.

>>42447543
>>42447663
Don’t worry, he’ll get a shot of natural incline when Vesper wraps up

>>42447645
Doesn't change the nature of the thread

>>42447663
We already know what is range of viewership is, and he's getting his normal numbers

The only reason I post here is because of YOU anon <3

>>42447734
This thread does a very good job at “self policing” for the most part. Every number related thing posted here is rarely posted outside of here ***by the people producing it***.

>>42447206
roru, nope, current global is tame but back in 2021 there were actually shitposting against JP, the most prolific event is probably the first Myth anniversary when the whole thread in unison claimed how EN is the true Hololive while JP is just soulless business

>>42447643
I thought Vesper only made numbers with zatsu streams

gawr goora

>>42447806
It's a buff game

>>42447806
Needy girl overdose is clearly a buff for a vtuber that got himself suspended for a menhera outburst

>>42447768
Tongue my anus <3

>>42447294
The twitter account (https://twitter.com/hololivepro_en)) did not exist until June 2022, less than a month before Tempus debuts.
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1499747976444809217 is the original announcement of StarsEN auditions, and you can see it was still referred to as "hololive english" at the time. They didn't even mention holostars, which makes me think they originally planned to shove them under the hololive name before sanity prevailed

>>42447839
Yes?

>>42447859
Only if you have a vagina next to that hole <3

>>42447802
Global still has a strong contingent of very annoying genwunners who will use up the images spamming their myth folder on cooldown, or drown out discussion of JP (or even EN2) streams with complaints that there are no streams

This thread desperately needs a pocket janny, but I doubt we are ever getting it.

EN gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPfXJlzDe4c

>>42448153
How so? What's there to manage when it's already dead