/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42394974
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*

>34,140: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,323: Suisei (Hololive)
>31,477: Zeta (Hololive)
>25,512: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>23,461: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,857: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,019: Botan (Hololive)
>20,843: Iroha (Hololive)
>20,762: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,517: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>19,356: Met (VSPO)
>17,659: Reine (Hololive)
>17,216: Iofi (Hololive)
>16,906: AZKi (Hololive)
>16,502: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>16,434: Korone (Hololive)
>15,860: Leos (Nijisanji)
>14,918: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>14,330: Subaru (Hololive)
>14,088: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,864: Chloe (Hololive)
>13,738: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,656: Flare (Hololive)
>13,538: Salome (Nijisanji)
>13,022: NeruMero (Indie)
>12,306: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,187: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,251: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,949: Towa (Hololive)
>10,653: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,559: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,550: Iroha (Hololive)

>>42394177
>Does anyone have the version of this chart tracking Council's individual viewership over time? Same general look of this chart but just Kronii, Mumei, Fauna, and Bae
Such chart did not exist. It does now, here it is, updated to February 4th (today).

Long story short
>Council hit rock bottom mid December , almost beating the CCVID low
>They bounced back with the off collabs
>They're bouncing back down, and are again on CCVID striking range

The chart already omits Sana, so it's pure Council

GRIM

>>42395016
hey man

>>42395042
This is helpful but I actually meant tracking the four members with individual lines to compare them. I know I saw it in this thread sometime in January but I've been unable to find it.

>>42395041
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 85,315 - 5th Anniversary
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Pekora
1x: Marine, Nijisanji

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
26x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
16x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha, Marine, Towa, Nijisanji
1x: Hololive, Koyori, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Subaru, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro

bad thread

>>42394676
They don't. The worst you can say about them is that compared to how popular she is elsewhere, she kinda just gets average amount of traction there. Which couuuuld mean there's an active amount of disinterest/dislike if you want to be conspiratorial.
But odd of anyone on /vt/ to say another place "hates" Gura when there are daily seethe threads. I swear some motherfuckers make Gura threads just to same fag XD NO STREAMS and get dozens of (you)s for the ebin joke.

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/4 DAILY TALLY
8,350: Ina (Hololive)
6,586: Uki (Nijisanji)
6,245: Vox (Nijisanji)
5,924: Mysta (Nijisanji)
5,658: IRyS (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Baelz
1x: Amelia, Ina

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
10p: Baelz
8p: Ina
5x: Amelia
4p: Mori, Vox
3p: Uki
1p: IRyS, Kronii

>150%
S-sugoi

KIARA GOLD
EGG STATUS?

>>42395200
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei, Amelia
3x: Mysta, Baelz, Ina
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, IRyS, Mori, Finana, Millie, Luca, Kronii, Regis

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
34p: Ina
32p: Mumei
23p: Amelia, Vox
22p: Mysta
18p: Baelz
17p: Fauna, IRyS
13p: Selen
12p: Kronii
11p: Luca
10p: Pomu
8p: Kiara, Ike, Millie, Mori
7p: Regis
6p: Mori
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana
4p: Enna, Uki
3p: Sonny, Hakka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>42395228
Fauna the only one going up? Impressive. I figured there'd be a bit of a drop since the first round of Japan off-collabs ended.

where the fuck is EN3?

>>42395228
Fauna inclining slightly as the entire EN vtuber scene fucking died around her over the course of 2022 is more impressive than the raw "2.30%" would suggest

>>42395290
Oh jk I misread this, thought it was just the last month mb. Still impressive that Fauna is the only one that gained.

>>42395228

>>42394974
Previous thread.

>>42395228
>Kronii, Mori and Ame have the strongest reclines out of EN
>Ollie at a whopping 36% recline
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>42395042
For the record, here is Myth minus Gura. Like Council, they hit rock bottom in mid November, bounced back with Ina's return but are again falling down

>>42395319
Anywhere between "at Cover's office, finalizing their debut details" and "out there on the streets, waiting for Cover to even start looking into the thousands of applications they've gotten over the months."

>>42395319
In bed with me
>>42395228
And this doesn't take into account all her recent streams which are way higher than 10k

>>42395041
21k from Botan with Hitman; that's pretty good, right?

>>42395454
Reallys jogs the ol' noggin huh

>>42395454
I-it's because of FPS you incel...!

>>42395510
AZKi 2023

>>42395545
That's moderately buff for someone who comfortably sits on a 15k to 18k range.

any predictions on Tempus 2 membership opening??
>2k members for anyone?

>>42395228
Tower stonk

>>42395608 (me)
forgot the karaoke

>>42395652
Is that happening any time soon?

>sex zeta outfit revealed
>fun HoloEN collab stream today
>arsenal and liverpool both got bootyblasted
>balloon shot down
>/sp/ relegated and their entire managerial team resigned because of their failure, potential rematch with /vt/ in the spring babbies possible
kino day so far

>>42395652
Hard to say because Tempus1 had SO FUCKING MANY membership gifts from like 3 paypigs. But idk if they'll crossover to Tempus2. I think Bettel will do well at least.

>>42395608
Jesas

>>42395652
My predictions is that initial memberships are worthless, bloated by gifts.

I wonder what the steady memberships are. 2k sounds absurdly generous

>>42395704
tonight

>>42395622
God HoloJP reclined so disgustingly high. The le EN grim discussion shit is made worse by it, since it's always really been about EN vs JP and JP are just shooting out of the stratosphere

>collect topics for a week
>choose a slot in the weekend to talk about it
>do it consistently
>incline
It's that easy
If Subaru and Met can do it, why can't everyone else do the same?

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL FEBAERARY TALLY*

>2/4 DAILY TALLY
4,370: Baelz (Hololive)

>STREAMS FOR FEBAERARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club - Day 02
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko - Day 01
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,937 - Minecraft (w/ Sora) - Day 03
4) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,370 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 04

>ABOVE 10K
2

>BETWEEN 5K AND 10K
0

>BELOW 5K
2

>CRIPPLE GOLDS FOR FEBAERARY 2023
01, 02
TOTAL: 2

>>42395876
We're really doing a separate Febarary tally...

>>42395777
Hololive in JP seems to have hit the "top of the frontpage" of twitch, but as a network of 30+ talents. to fall from there it takes years of stagnation or something big at corporation level that would fragment the streamers themselves.

>>42395777
>typed reclined instead of inclined
fuck i'm stupid

>>42395691
did she react or not?

>>42395906
I thought it'd be a fun way to document how much of a success or failure it proves to be.

>Gura reclined
>Mumei reclined
>IRyS reclined
>Ina reclined
>Kiara reclined
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

what's the gold for today

>>42396010
Kobo or MariFure mc

>>42396010
Kobo

>>42395709
First we gotta play the fetus and i have no faith in our managers.

>>42395974
>Fauna inclined

>>42395228
Name this team

>>42395974
>Homonigger can't list Fauna because she inclined
Must be rough having the worst girls on your side.

>>42396098
No she didn't

>>42395095
>tracking the four members with individual lines to compare them
Here it is, and here is their recent developments

1) Mumei incline just enough to regain #1 among the Council girls
2) Fauna is stable pretty much since late October
3) Kronii is mounting a comeback, but still below her previous career low mid September
4) Bae likewise, but not much of a comeback

>>42396106
COK

>>42395721
>Joined Nov 5, 2018
this is even more absurd, GO AZKi GO

>>42396085
well /sp/ is literally managerless right now so the chances are better than before at the very least

>>42396124
Wait, wait, this chart is mislabeled, it is the 60 days instead of 30 days.

>>42396124
Theeeere it is, thank you very much I will not forget to save it this time.

FauFau you're supposed to be medium not flat...

uhh kfpkeks? love cream so much?

>>42396121
Then why wasn't she listed there? She's right there in the chart. >>42395228

>>42396124
Since bae and others are camping on gura slot kroni is destined to be always overlapped. So i dont think we will ever see her going to 8k average unless bae, mumei,irys and sometimes fauna stop streaming

Where is it

>>42396098
>>42396110
unicorn niggers, answer me, why do these girls I listed recline?

>>42396055
>>42396049
>Indog
>Gold

>>42396124
Also wow that one minecraft stream really did work for Kronii sheesh. Her streams have been light lately so I suppose it makes sense that one bigger stream did so much to incline it.

>>42396124
>Offcollab arc helped Mumei and to an extent Fauna but did basically nothing for Bae

>>42396250
Everyone reclined for the most part, the scene as a whole reclined in EN. It's just that some reclined more than others because of "other factors".

>>42396229
>So i dont think we will ever see her going to 8k average
I mean...she could with better gamechoice pretty easily. We've seen her numbers potential.

>>42396253
Kaela was close if it wasn't for niji's 5th anniv so...

>>42396185
>>42396229
>>42396271
>>42396297
Here is the correctly labeled chart

>>42396297
The best off collab streams weren't on Bae's channel is probably the most simple reason.

>>42396318
Yeah but i feel overlaps hurt more now than ever.
Kronii doesnt have a free timeslot like fauna or ina. And niw with bae and fauna streaming for longer funnels aint gonna happen.

>>42395228
How are the stats caclulated anyway?
Feels like a lot of speculation, e. g., Ame's members posts are always gathering more likes/comments on average compared to Mori, there's no way she has less members.

>>42396297
Mumei came back with minecraft and geoguesser streams
Bae came back with super chat reading and letter making
Content choice matters in capitalizing on something and producing lasting results

When will you idiots learn there are no homobeggers legitimately coming to fucking /#/, a sub 100 IP thread, and raving about incels and unicorns. They're cheap (you) farmers and you're the fucking fertile fields

>>42396406
This isn't a chart about members, anon?

>>42396321
Towa and Pekora are the only ones I remember beating Niji main channel events.

>>42396433
You're the fertile one if you keep at it

>>42395104
Without Pekora Hololive would be losing. The company is so top heavy one person wins more than half their golds.

>>42396481
Ah, indeed, I can't read.

I think you remember very well how the no Pekora tally went.
Hell, Niji wouldn't be winning even in the no First Army tally.

>>42396596
A legit no First Army tally hasn't been posted. That tally considered shitters like Korone and Koyori to be first army.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F86GZpO_ZeU
What happened with her? She was supposed to be where Ado is standing right now. She was THE hidden singer similar to what Ado is now. Is Ado just that talented or is it the vtuber effect of everyone covering her songs and none of Minami's songs even though I like Minami's more. My favorite song being:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ3V50XoLOM

From Dudul's new Gura animation

>>42396124
>>42396336
where's the correct 30 days chart?

>>42396315
Obviously EN vtubers reclined once covid restrictions were lofted. But I remain convinced that Anycolor and Cover’s insistence on pushing male vtubers is the primary reason for the current decline. NijiEN received an early adoption boost with Luxiem, but they were not able to recreate it and even they have reclined significantly compared to their peak. And Hololive fans were not interested at all and when some of the girls pushed male collabs it caused lots of fans to snub their nose on vtubing altogether, or atleast, move to smaller corpos as some have seen inclines since the two major corpos became cock-obsessed.

>>42396649
It was. Hololive was winning by a difference of 2. That's when the no Top 8 tally was created, because it was the only scenario where Nijisanji wins.

>>42396433
Oboretai is literally here every single day

>>42396433
Axel is /here/

>>42396508
>Without Pekora Hololive would be losing. The company is so top heavy one person wins more than half their golds.
Here is how January would be without Pekora in January
>21x: Hololive
>9x: Nijisanji
>1x: INdie

>>42395432
>Two of my posts got on that summary.
Is this what people feel like when one their posts get onto those Twitter or Youtube reaction accounts?

>>42395608
what the fuck.
why does she incline so much

>>42396433
If you hang around long enough, you'll see our resident homolovers in youtube comments and on reddit

>>42396834
Power of hags. They’re irresistible.

>>42395228
Given that no new EN girls and basically no events for half a year the recline isn't that surprising.
Gura reclined the most since she is the EN box and all of the EN recline minus Fauna.
Mori/Kronii and somewhat Ame recline really affected the EN box the most.

>>42396124
This is what you some of you faggots don't get about Kronii. She lost a lot of viewers and paypigs in February 2022, when she went on break and hardly streamed that month, she never recovered from this.

The only thing that Tempus hurt her # wise is on YouTube subscriptions.

>>42396824
Okay, now remove Miko.

>>42396433
one of the honos confirmed lurking /vt/, imagine the non-zero chance you unironically called him a faggot

>>42396433
Wrong, I am a real homobeggar and I always come to /#/ to share my favorite male streamers with other anons

>>42396903
>Gura reclined the most since
??? Are you even reading that chart?

>>42396725
I don't have that particular one with 30 days. I could make it but it would be more hassle than worth given that I more or less deprecated the 30 days in favor of the 60 days (as it is more immune to outliers)

>>42396945
kek, you will reach the same conclusion "that" anon reached
>you would have to remove Peko, Miko, Suisei, Aqua, Marine, Subaru and then remove Koyori and Korone too

>>42396942
I'm pretty sure male collabs are never going to hurt sub growth, if anything it'll help. Her subs are down because Holo subs are down in general.

>>42395104
>>42395200
Niji can't even fight without event and shit, that is so sad.

>>42396976
Based sapling

Peko kneel

>>42396433
This is the only place still hostile to homocollab, every other places on /vt/ has fallen, even /hlgg/ are completely ok with male collab now

>>42396508
Some real “if they remove Jordan from the Bulls, they don’t win six championships” energy right here.

>>42397039
Im sure luca will get cripple gold since his just dance streams are just an excuse to play copyrighted music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsVEXmjvY8g
was this talked about at all?
Also speaking of notrushia, does she do karaokes anymore? I always kind of enjoyed hers because she sang a lot of jpop i like that others don't sing.

>>42396756
Anon, you can say that AFTER two minor corpos blew themselves up?
And, like we have discuss this to death already: Vtuber in EN will always be a niche, you either live with that fact, or seethe forever

>>42397078
>Top 5 are all Mobile Legends
Disgusting
Why is SEA like this?

>>42397016
>Just take out all 1st army

Botan, lamy, ayame, azki, shion and koyo still can kick niji ass

>>42397078
So the ishowspeed guy finally reclined huh

>>42396694
Ado is constantly putting out covers and stuff on her Youtube channel where her fans are. Minami took year and a half to release a second EP after the first one and apparently another year and a half to the next and there's nothing but her originals on the channel. Apples and oranges in a way, since aside from Minami not doing covers she also composes her own songs and seems to be more of a traditional artists whereas Ado is a Youtube phenomenon. I also like Minami more.

>>42397078
Once again, a reminder that the fuckers who compile this filter out non-gaming streams for Pekora but not for anyone else

>>42397078
No wonder Amouranth is throwing huge parties in her streams now and inviting xqc just to pad out her numbers.

>>42396976
No arguments there. It shows all the information I would want anyway.

>>42396487
you mean this year? because I'm sure holoid was beating niji main events once

>>42395041
Where's Tamaki?

>>42397177
Anon, you say that like Japan and their coomer gambling addiction is any better

i missed the thread during girls talk.
did the homofags and sisters get mad?

>>42397177
well it was tournament season

>>42396972
Don't look at the percentage but numbers from 2021 to 2022 she lost 3.05k while Kronii lost 3k

>>42397213
>>42397078
Amouranth x XQC arc soon.

And here is one more before bedtime
>60 days median and true average for Koyori
She was very stable around the 10k line for about six months, then in December she
>INCLINED THE FUCK UP OUT OF NOWHERE
Did she get smarter with her choice of content or something? She's getting close to her numbers pre CCVID, when she was sill fully under debut buff.

What is Koyori even doing?

>>42397177
Maybe holoid should start playing this game

>>42396942
The same thing goes for Ame, by the way.
She lost everything going on for her during late 2021, while doing sporadic streams, taking constant breaks, and feeling out of it most of the time.

Speaking of music, I got recommended this barely 50k subs indie's original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_h_Yr94NZM
>3.15m views
>Also available to sing on Joysound

>>42395319
in my pocket.

>>42396433
Not true I and my fellow sisters from Nijisanji EN frequently visit this thread to share of love of both Nijisanji JP and EN, as well as Holostars Tempus.

>>42397369
Sorry anon, chinese game.

>>42397341
>Don't look at the percentage
You are an idiot

>>42397365
leeching pays off

Fauna x Neuro-sama collab? how would that do for mindshare?

>>42396694
It seems that Minami appeals more to gaijins. Gotta get some solid jap base first.

>>42396694
Vtubers?
Also Minami doesn't ride the algorithm as hard as Ado, she kinda blew up with the Domekano OP but she didn't really do anything to take advantage of that. You have to be a numberfag to get numbers.

>>42396433
I post in this thread semi-regularly and, by Jove, I will have my SuiseixJoe song collab!

>>42395432
based.

>>42397177
What happened to western streaming scene? I thought they were the powerhouse?

>>42397365
Sekiro probably.

>>42396508
You have to remove 8 holos in order for Niji to win January. And it is fucking 16-15.

>>42397481
I don't know, it truly looks more like hard work paying off

>>42397365
do you have the median graph of every branch this month?

>>42397401
how is it different from tencent?

>>42397536
>Youtube
>World Championship ffrom 1st to 15th of January

KEK

>>42397573
How can it be 16-15 if one of those days was won by an indie?

>>42397578
hard work wasn't enough, koyori already work her ass from the start. she start inclining once she start leeching

>>42396433
People itt will call anything homobegging so it's fun to trigger them

>>42397625
Thanks anon I will report it now

>>42397625
>IM GONNA, IM GONNA BEEEEEEEEEEEEG

>>42397645
Wait. I misremembered.

>Matsuri 6k karaoke
holy shit that's bad.

>>42397649
Leeching is hard work.

>>42397625
>it's a collab so i will let it
A-chan

>>42397625
ANYA, DON'T LOOK!

>>42397625
did kaela just stole petra background? kek

>>42397625
thanks, anon

>>42397649
hard work + leeching are not enough. you gotta be smart

I have a theory that HoloJP is reclining hard in non-quantifiable things.

>>42397692
How popular is 10AM on Sunday as a karaoke slot

>>42397692
That's above average for her. Karaokes are only moderate buffs for most JPs. They always sing from the same pool of 45 songs every other Holo sings every week, and it's archived.

>>42397692
bros her karaokes are like 3k usually

>>42397709
Sorry mean t-chan

>>42397746
Losing mindshare to Tsunderia.

>>42397625
Had a look through his profile and it seems he's posted half niji stuff to the subreddit several times now. Can't tell me these people aren't coordinating.

>>42397625
clipfag beggars really took over r/holo, huh?

>>42397746
reclining on my bed

UH OH NOUSAGITACHIS? Amouranth is leeching hard on xqc right now. The first quarter first place is starting to slip again, time to doompost.

>>42397545
Not only that but she used to open the weekend midday slot without competition in the past months

>>42397625
downvote that shit anon

>>42397365
playing sekiro and minecraft

>>42397365
She's first army now. Aqua has been fully replaced

is suisei ado-tier yet?

>>42397998
wait 584194 threads more

>>42397998
Shut up with the stupid ritual posting. You and the fucking "first army picture" guy.

>>42397365
Here is one more to scratch the "Pink girl" itch
>Luna

The only thing that can be said about her is
>FUCKING WOW!
She inclined sky high, from bouncing between 4k and 5k to comfortably above the 6k line, staying for months above the 7k line now.

What was it? RUST?

>>42397587
>do you have the median graph of every branch this month?
February? It's too early

>>42397649
her first collab with miko was in fucking february
honestly just kill yourself if you don't know what you're talking about

>minecraft arc still doing hot
>holoen already stopped playing
useless branch sometimes

>>42398118
GFE bros keep winning.

>>42397649
like im so fucking tired of people like you trying to diminsh the efforts of people and dismissing people who try with these comments, actually fucking die, people like you contribute nothing to hololive other than putting people down who are trying their best, absolute piece of garbage human

>>42398247
Ina will play...Fauna will play again. Kiara will play I think. a4tda

>>42398090
no.

>>42397649
There is no such thing as "leeching"; it doesn't exist for Hololive.
The strongest point of the company is exactly the fact there is a "box" of viewers that will watch their favorite girls, and their favorite girls favorite partners.

The only people even implying there is such thing as "leeching" in Hololive are retards that can't admit to the immense achievement of those girls.

>>42398247
Girl talk is so much better content ngl

>>42398118
I have seen some guys saying that she changed her content to the GFE route but I have barely watched her so I don't know if this is true
Sleep well anon, next time you post these can I get Roberu's chart too pls?

>>42397625
>Immediately went up to 900 after this picture was posted

>>42398247
>minecraft arc still doing hot
uhh where and what

>>42395259
>Seperating Hololive and Holostars again
>Just so Niji can have a better shot at winning
If you don't stop fucking doing this I am going to have a fit. We already solved this yesterday.

19x: Holopro
17x: Nijisanji

Why did you hijack the EN Tally anyway?

>>42398314
Maybe it is but Minecraft can be done three times a week and that definitely can't

>>42397481
>>42397649
like the answer to the post of the chart anon was obvious: it was fucking sekiro
you didn't know that, you didn't answer correctly, you didn't know what you were talking about, yet you posted that, you're such a piece of shit, have the gall to shit talk people without even knowing the fucking answer like an ignorant retard

>>42395228
Damn this is like a GDP chart and holoEN is in recession almost the scale of the great depression.

>>42398382
Imagine wanting to watch fucking minecraft three times a week. Are you five my guy? Did you get lost looking for other channels?

>>42398090
i'll take this dude over the first army faggot.

>>42398377
>adding the stars to the hololive count
Fuck off. They are a different entity. They are not Hololive. HoloStars will never be Hololive.

>>42398354
check most recent minecraft streams
>iroha 20k
>flare 17k
>lui 14k
high numbers for all three

Reine got the worst kimono design yesterday? Even iofi was so much better, pochi mama what are you thinking????

>>42397625
both are hololive member, nothing wrong here

>>42398382
Minecraft is so boring Kiara should just hold a girls talk stream 4 times a week.

>>42397838
>xqc
>disrespect
>amouranth
what an unholy trio

>>42398481
Nice try Nijifag but we already solved this

HoloPro: 19
Nijisanji: 17

That is why we changed the name to Holopro to appease autistic spergs like you.

>>42398629
>HoloPro
Double fuck off. Anyone who promotes this shit is an enemy of hololive.

>>42395228
>>42395346
I'm quite sleepy and this is all in the head calculations but I think I got it all right.
>Percentages as viewership relative to total HoloEN viewership
> | 2022 | 2021 | Change in percentage points
> Ina | 30.0% | 9.0% | +21.0%
>Fauna | 9.6% | 0.0% | + 9.6%
> Gura | 143.8% | 136.2% | + 7.6%
> Bae | -23.4% | -29.6% | + 6.2%
> Irys | - 0.5% | - 5.6% | + 5.1%
>Mumei | 8.2% | 3.3% | + 4.9%
> Sana | -43.9% | -44.9% | + 1.0%
>Kiara | -32.0% | -29.2% | - 2.8%
> Ame | -13.7% | - 8.8% | - 4.9%
> Mori | - 9.6% | - 1.2% | - 8.4%
>Kroni | 6.2% | 20.7% | -14.5%

>>42398561
ok, now post recent baelz minecraft number with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8MjjttkZ4o
Need to insert the boys even though it's a girls talk - Homobeggar logic.

>holocucks are actually admitting Hololive and Holostars belong together
holy fuck, I can't handle this much cuckening
did Omega succeed?

>>42398629
i'm a luknight and i hate the holopro name, better change it to cover vs anykara

>>42398561
Still boring content. JP lost its soul a long time ago and it's all about numbers EN on the other hand keeps on giving kino content.

>>42397717
no. the Petra was an edit of the Kaela screenshot

>>42398345
>next time you post these can I get Roberu's chart too pls?
Next time is now, here is Roberu
>HOLY FUCK!
one of the biggest inclines across both agencies (Holostars and Hololive).
It seems the recipe for the stars is simple
>forget about collabing with the Holo girls
>also forget about collabing with the Holo boys
Just pretend you are an indie and blast away!

Very soon there will be such a thing as "the Roberu line" as the measuring stick for the rest of the stars (on EN and JP)

>>42398746
Anything to win a meaningless and honestly pathetic "cripple" race.

>>42398746
What is falseflagging?

>>42398811
Something the vast majority of this thread fails to detect

>>42398743
>Burner accounts

>>42398419
she gain fans from leeching, thus her sekiro numbers inclining.

>>42398743
I saw that comment on that clip and didn't think anything about it. Didn't realize it was a reference to that vesper stream. jesus christ

>>42398481
It's a per company tally you autist.

>>42398629
>autistic spergs
They probably are but it's mostly Nijifags trying to give themselves an advantage in the tally. Wonder why a Nijifag hijacked the EN Tally from the original guy.

>>42398475
>>42398613
Tens of thousand of people seem to disagree and patronize even Kronii, Iroha and Roboco playing it.
Maybe you guys aren't the right audience for it but it is absolutely undeniable it attracts a HUGE audience.

>>42398746
They are separate though. But they are under one company, so it would make sense to lump them into one regardless of your feelings.

>>42398804
Thank you very much, my son is winning as usual. I hope there will be a day when he can match mid tier NijiJP males

>>42398561
And none of it worth watching. Maybe they should play roblox or pull fifa gacha.

>>42398722
maybe minecraft tourists aren't interested in jp collabs

>>42398890
>so it would make sense
fuck off homo

>>42398743
Checking out YouTube comments under random clips in search of his favourite boogeymen - average /#/ treadshitter behavior.

>>42398808
>Anything to win a meaningless and honestly pathetic race

ftfy
all golds first army and bullshit are pathetic and a waste of time. Medians and averages are what matter and even that's kinda pathetic to numberfag.

>>42398890
go back

>>42398882
>It's a per company tally you autist.
WELL?
>take his hand and his trade?

>>42398891
What's "mid tier" for JP males (excluding former ID/KR deadweight)? 3-4k?

>>42398882
What if an indie wins? It should be per entity. Hololive will never be Holostars in any context. I will never accept it.

>>42398743
This sort of behavior isn't even homobegging, it's EOP retardation that simply refuses to understand homos are like, a related party, not part of the group. This exact shit is what redditors and EOPs have been doing for years: drawing a tangential link between one of the talent's jokes and the situation. Except it's not fucking the same with Homos or Nijis or other third parties, but they sperg out at you when you tell them to stop shilling. Like that guy that made the Pomu thread a few days ago

>>42398855
fuck you, literally kill yourself, did you know there were articles written about her elden ring playthrough? that she has been building a brand of that specific kind of playthroughs for over 6 months? you didn't know that because you don's seem to know anything about her
what kind of "parasite" would stream almost 2k hours and over 600 times in their first year, i bet you absolute piece of garbage would never be able to do that in her position yet you choose to shit talk her like the impotent worm you are

>>42398782
no, it's real

>>42398884
Show me bae last MC stream again.

>>42399012
Autistic and stupid for something already autistic and stupid.

>>42399012
If an indie wins than they win, how is that confusing to you?

>>42398946
>>42398969
Nijifags seething. Can't win either way so what does it matter? And even on the off chance someone does win from niji, you're still a loser. Sorry you had to find out this way.

>>42397146
I swear to god Tamaki 100% take collab fees. There is no way she or other vtuber just showed up in her interview like that. There must be a price to come to her interview because it is very good exposure.

>>42399003
I don't really know desu, but I was thinking about something in the 4-5k range

>>42399084
Never compromise on any front. Never accept HoloStars.

Man, I always laugh when that one koyori defender enters the thread. Like dude, we know you like koyori but people will stop calling koyori a leech more if you stop fucking responding and acting so pressed.

>>42398983
>Holopro is now canon
I'm so confused, this term as an umbrella for stars and holos has existed for almost 3 years now. Where do you newfags come from that you keep insisting Omegay invented it?

>>42398891
>I hope there will be a day when he can match mid tier NijiJP males
I don't know exactly where to put the "mid" line in mid tier but in January he's outranking Oliver and Belmond.

Two years ago people would doubt that.

>>42398983
The answer is obvious.
NijiEN fags do not want to be magged.
Unicorns hate T3MPUS.
Homobeggars love it.
Unityfags do not give a damn.
So no. Let NijiEN have the medal.

>>42399029
those article written by nousagis tho, stop pretending pekora didn't gave her a boost

>>42399043
I don't have it at hand but I'll assume you are picking the lowest example you can think ignoring the dozens of examples of it being a buff content

>>42399178
and i know for sure you aren't one of those people trying to blend back in like a fucking coward are you? so high and mighty but can't even get down to actually be vulnerable or defend things he believes in

>>42398950
You seem agitated by that, maybe even defensive. Why is that? Did the comments accurately show what homobeggars are. (Yes.)

>>42399122
newfagchama rushia and tamaki are great friends. in fact out of all the holos its probably either rushia or choco that collabed the most with tamaki.

>>42399213
No.

>>42397146
She did one karaoke recently on Mikecat birthday.

>>42398118
It's probably worth looking into, but I think it's that she changed her streaming time. She has very little JP overlap now.

>>42398804
I think one of the biggest problems is the stars often pidgeon hole themselves into only working with the Hologirls. They should really just accept that Hologirls are a special tier all of their own with fans who are very possessive of them and focus on getting away from the box. Magni I feel could go a similar route as Roberu if he really tried

koyori is a leech. that's the only thing the has going for her. that's not necessarily a bad thing in terms of her numbers, but her content is incredibly poor and she would surely be doomed to (greater) irrelevancy without hardleeching her coworkers for eyeballs. just how it is, please try not to cry if you choose reply to me.

>>42399238
if you're gonna just get reduced to fucking lying after 3 replies you should honestly just give up on life, you clearly are weak as fuck

>>42399194
Could Naru be saved by a Mario Kart collab with Roberu and Suisei?

>>42399192
Anon, Hololive Productions is the umbrella.
"Holopro" is the cope moniker homobeggars (both in the audience and the management) invented to include Holostars where they don't belong.

There are only two "named characters" belonging to Hololive Productions
>A-Chan
>Nodoka

All of the rest of the boys and the girls belong either to Hololive or to Holostars and there is no overlap between their structures.

>>42399340
Nijiseethe.

>>42399253
see? this is your problem man, Koyori will probably get bigger one day and she'll get more haters and you'll go insane trying to fight everyone. Literally just learn to ignore man and let her performance do the talking.

>>42399340
just keep repeating it like a jealous bitch because that's what you are, you want what she has so bad that you resort to this

>>42399033
for almost 2 years, /vt/ pushed anya-petra but it turns out it's kaela-petra

>>42399192
It's not about it existing, it is about not propagating it. Hololive JP and HoloStars JP tallies aren't grouped together so it shouldn't be for the ENs.

Sharts will never be hololive.

Is there any clue on what Mori is doing with this stream? If it's just another album shill I think I'll pass but I'm kinda curious if it's something else.

>>42399122
Tamaki is a popular and influential person even outside of vtubing.

>>42399129 (me)
>>42399194
I was right with my expectations. It's amazing how much he has inclined and showing the way to other Holostars. Even if all the Hololive audience fully accepted Holostars, there is no point sharing most of their audience with the girls, they need to get new viewers

>>42399341
koyori is leeching. that's something you can't argue

>>42399384
shinove......

>>42399340
this is the numbers thread

>Koyori leech posting again
You guys are so stupid. She streams 20x more than your oshi and with that she'll have higher collab frequencies because she actually wants to stream. She's everywhere because she has a huge uptime on streaming.

Did something happen to bring up this "muh same company" faggotry or is it just normal beggarschizo hours?

>>42399483
explain how
go ahead
explain
fucking how

>>42399194
I always think Belmont is one of the IDs. I think there's one with a similar name as him? Bonbon or something?

>>42399336
>They should really just accept that Hologirls are a special tier all of their own with fans who are very possessive of them
That's retarded as fuck and starts from the assumption the Holostars are merely leeches that both can't survive without the girls blood and that can't possibly thrive by their own merit.

Their success or lack thereof has NOTHING to do with the girls or their audience. They live and die by their own content and, so far, only Roberu figured that out.
Their lack of success has nothing to do with "fans who are very possessive of" the girls

>>42399451
Okay so your complaint is so autistic you'd approve of the same thing if it was COVER and ANYKARA instead?

>>42399501
she can stream all the time she wants, but she's leeching from pekora. do you think she's inclining out of nowhere?

>>42399523
It's just shitposters and bored falseflaggers.

>>42399523
Just normal samefaging and shizos riling each other up over nothing again. Probably some nijifags mixed in to stir the pot.

What happened with Shu?

>>42399340
There is no such thing as "leeching" with regards to Hololive. Collaborating and pulling up the low nad mid level with the strength the box brings is the BIGGEST asset of the agency.

Anyone even implying "leeching" is a thing within the Holo girls is more likely than not a jealous bitch or a seething 2 views.
Holo main strength is "one for all", pretending that's a bad thing is retarded as fuck

>>42399484
HoloStars

>>42399601
how
explain how
there's dozens of people that collab way more with her, everyone does what pekora does, some of her genmates do even more of that, how is she the one that gets the label
you just don't like her and you're a bitch, that's how

>>42399523
Guy mad they get included in the EN tally with Holo EN. Doesn't even matter since Niji still won last month regardless.

>>42399384
Holopro is just the abbreviation my man, Hololive Productions is a fucking mouthful. I swear you make me sound like a homobegger arguing this but I'm not this far down the semantics train as you.

Cover really fucked up with the branding of these two groups that it causes this much AKSHUALLY, and they're fucking it up even harder with homos by splitting them into Uproar/Holostars like there's a difference.

>>42399585
Nope. I would prefer there to just be no medals awarded to them. In fact just give their medals to NijiEN because they share the same fanbase.

>>42399601
wow i can't believe she's copying exactly what pekora is doing right now.
you're a fucking retard go neck yourself

>>42399601
Pekora is the biggest leech then as she inclined all thanks to Moona.

>>42399692
>by splitting them into Uproar/Holostars like there's a difference.
Holostars was Shinove hard work, Uproar is Cover management work

>>42399629
Decent for Oregon Trail isn't it? Shu has never been that great anyway. He's carried just by being in Luxiem. At least Ike has something people genuinely like, his singing, such as it is.

>>42399695
Knew it was a nijinigger.

>>42399788
This is true.

I think back to that one anon who talked about Bae asking her members if they had any advice for her or something like that.
Does she secretly care about, well, not numbers exactly, but about success? Did she feel that there was something wrong? Does she subconsciously compare herself to her genmates? Is she aware of her position of runt?
Is she a sad clown?

>>42399610
>>42399622
>>42399684
Ok, thanks anons. Business as usual. Well, let them seethe.

This whole argument could be resolved if people simply stopped acting like there's any reason for an "EN tally" to exist besides wanting to give free medals to losers

>>42398118
She got a big boost during the monster hunter rise arc

>>42399549
Retard do you even know what Roberu's incline has been built on? Roberu's growth has come from him leeching off girls from another corpo. he's doing the same exact shit he just picked some girls that people won't go schizo over. What is the stuff people talk about 90% of the time with Roberu? His partnership with Mea and his collabing with Tamaki's group

Men like watching men who can joke around with and collab with women but they DON'T want to watch men do that with Hologirls. group collabs are a necessity to grow, the main difference is Roberu found a group he can collab with

>>42399788
wrong, Thanks to Iofi for encouraging Moona to interact with Pekora
learn your shit newfag

>>42399629
Shu was caught match fixing in Wrestlesanji and is on the run from league-backed debt collevtors.

>>42399629
depression kicked in

>>42399732
she already gains fans by leeching off pekora, so she can do whatever she wants now
>>42399788
retard

>>42399885
>no z
Panic

>>42399815
No difference, same personnel evaluators making the calls on who gets in. Face it, Holostars is way more misses than hits no matter how you look at it. Uproar just got unlucky to have 3.5 misses.

>>42399629
Actual mental health break if random posts from weeks ago are to be believed.

>HoloEN girls get lives and concerts
>vshojo gets lives and concerts
>NijiJP girls get lives and concerts
>even Kawaii Pro is gonna get lives
Why don't NijiEN girls get lives or concerts?

>>42399890
So what you're saying is that it's Iofi who should be our true mascot and not the leech Pekora.

Marine should start leeching my dick.

>>42399601
>he thinks pekora was original
LMAO pekora is far from original. When they first started all she did was leech off of marine and rushia. IT was only when she actually found her stride with MGS that she gained somewhat of an individual standing.
Now all she does is glue her eyes on permissions list and try to be the first to play it because that gets numbers; being the first to play it.
Look at any projects pekora tries to do and tell me it isn't a flop 95% of the time.

>>42399885
I'll give her a special reward tonight.

>>42399967
why haven't you answered how, are you such an impotent troll that you can't even go further than "s-she's just one because s-she is o-ok??"

>>42399884
It exists because it gives people something to talk about besides "did Pekora stream" "did Nijisanji have a tournament" "did someone have a 3D/debut/".

>>42400029
Have you heard their attempts at singing? Have you seen their attempts at dancing? Have you seen their numbers?

>>42397365
She works hard AND smart.

>A leech is one who benefits, usually deliberately, from others' information or effort but does not offer anything in return, or makes only token offerings in an attempt to avoid being called a leech.
So as long as they give benefit to collab partner, they aren't leecher
Someone like Shoto is a true leecher. Not bringing anything to Luxiem, if anything, he sucks Luxiem dry

>Bae just refused to say Magnis name on a super chat
Unicorns won?

>>42399549
>That's retarded as fuck and starts from the assumption the Holostars are merely leeches that both can't survive without the girls blood and that can't possibly thrive by their own merit.
Correct. Look me in the eye and tell me these faggots financially deserve all the time they get in the Cover studios that are overbooked.
Or that they'd be able to self fund, from their own profit, their outfits and 3ds.

>>42399629
He gave up and burned out. Always does minimal shit nowdays

It says that baking mentally heals someone, Pippa should make a cookies baking stream

>>42400086
Fucking newfag, did you miss the time where people called her "Koyoleech"? It was happens pretty much every thread.

>>42400132
>Have you heard their attempts at singing?
Ame has been in lives and and has been in concerts.
>Have you seen their attempts at dancing?
Even Ina has danced.
>Have you seen their numbers?
Yes. Iofi has been in concerts though.

I would say the niji en girls don't want to be in that shit but it seems pretty obvious they actually do.

>>42399885
A CLEAN METO GRAPH?! A GOOD OMEN

>>42399884
there's no reason for any tally to exist. these "golds" aren't fucking real and no one but us cares about them

>>42400223
i am going to change it to roberu's Juicy toes

>>42400107
If that was the goal it would be an "everyone except JP" tally, not an "EN branches and we'll even argue about how to group those" tally

>>42400265
you mean the people that do the same shit as you? break in tears over collabs that everyone else does and that faggot that was crying beacuse "s-she's in too many totsus even tho one of her genmates has more apparitions than her bwah"
and i also i was there, over this entire year calling that faggot out
you should have also have seen that, who's the fucking newfag here
fucking clown rewriting history

>>42400223
With Bae? Never.
It might be she just didn't want to have her stream hijacked with magni discussion at that moment

>>42400265
yeah, you're the samefag that keeps parroting it you fucking moron. Am I supposed to listen to retards who don't even know what a leech is?
You can't name ONE single instance where she leeched someone without calling the other a retard with zero evidence.
If your too pussy to neck yourself then can you fucking neuter yourself so you can keep your low iq shitface to yourself and not spread it. But then again the only way you'll even be able to pass on your genes is if you find someone to rape.

>>42400223
It would have been weird with anyone's name in that context. She might have said it if it was another EN like IRyS or whatever but if it was Pekora or Towa or whatever she would not have.

>>42399692
>Holopro is just the abbreviation my man, Hololive Productions is a fucking mouthful.
kek, you could be hired to run their social media, they as well want to blur that line
>I swear you make me sound like a homobegger arguing this
So far there is only one reason to refer to ANYTHING as "Holopro": to include "the boys" in a context they wouldn't otherwise.

Here is an example: the Hololive subreddit. There was NEVER EVER EVER EVER any doubt that it was created for the girls of the Hololive agency.
Nobody gave a fuck about Holostars when it was created in 2019 and, more than that, back then the edict of "not mentioning Holostars in the same context of Hololive" was still in full force.
For all that mattered the Holostars were from another planet, another universe, another dimension completely without any relation with Hololive.

I mentioned the subreddit but the same applied to ANY mention of Hololive. There was never any ambiguity, Hololive was about the "all girls" agency, as opposed to Holostars, the "all boys" agency.
Hololive Productions indeed exists since 2019, and it was used to streamline the management of the entertainment side of COVER (as opposed to the tech side or the bureacratic side). It merged the music label (Innonaka) and Hololive and Holostars in the same ***managerial*** structure, but they continued as foreign to each other as before.
Proof to that is that AZKi only fully "onboarded" Hololive in 2022, before then she was as foreign to the agency as the Holostars.

This is not semantics, it is reality. Anytime you hear ANYONE mentioning "Holopro" (in the shorthand) they are merely injecting "the boys" in a context they wouldn't otherwise belong.
They are not Hololive. "Hololive productions" as an unified agency with boys and girls does not exist.

>>42399884
There's no reason for any tally or retardchart or horse race medals or this thread to exist. None of it's real or useful or informative or serious, this is a shitpost thread.

>>42399033
Pretty sure they use the same resource providers, I've seen Polka and alban having the same background before

>>42400430
>So far there is only one reason to refer to ANYTHING as "Holopro": to include "the boys" in a context they wouldn't otherwise.
Yes this is what it's for. Like for example "Holofes features talents from HoloPro". "From this site, you can buy HoloPro" merch.
I understand your woes but it is a term that aptly describes what you'd call both groups.

>>42400223
fauna's guidance finally bearing fruits? it's still early to talk

>>42400107
You're free to talk about them in their designated generals.

>>42400223
We have been over this. Bae is smart enough to not shit her streams with homotalk just because they pop up in supas. Bae is not like Ollie who has to simp and scream every time homo is mentioned. And she is StarsJP fangirl anyway.

Can anybody properly define what "leech" is? Because from what I am seeing /here/, vtuber inclines due to association with bigger vtubers are called "leeching"

>>42400376
Most people here don't actually watch JP streams outside of events, because they don't know Japanese. EN streamers are simply of more general interest on an EN-speaking board.

Remember that the Koyori schizo is just a Salami fag. While HoloX wasn't exactly a miracle gen Koyori still proved to be a success and that Cover can still grow some good talents, meanwhile Salami just reclined into complete irrelevancy while still bleeding viewers.

>>42400430
>They are not Hololive. "Hololive productions" as an unified agency with boys and girls does not exist.
Mate they have the same expo, were part of the same NYE concert and whatnot. I wish Holosharts didn't exist but you're just lying to yourself at this point.

>>42400519
vtuber i don't like that collabs too much for my imaginary threshold and who i refuse to give credit for contributing to the collab because i didn't like them in the first place

>>42399885
The end is nigh

oh the bae off-collab is with the reddit duck

>>42400519
Someone who only gets big numbers when leeching off their JP target and then proceeds to get shit numbers on solo content, like Moona.

>>42399384
God you are an autistic peace of shit.

>>42399892
There is no such thing as "leeching". Leeching does not exist for the most part in the vtuber world.
He collabed with all sorts of willing partners, most of them getting as much benefit from collabing with him as he got from collabing with them.
Mea, in particular, Roberu greatly outranks her for the whole duration of their collaboration.

>group collabs are a necessity to grow
You are missing the point. The original statement was that Holostars lack of success come from not being able to collaborate with the Hololive girl.
My point is that that is a retarded argument because it starts from the assumption they're entitled to said collaborations and it is the fans preventing it.
They are not entitled to it.

>>42399885
As much as this thread is shit, I still prefer it to the other generals on this board. I wouldn't have come to appreciate more girls like Met and VSPO otherwise

>>42400535
Does Salamifag even exist?

>Bae off collab with Shuba playing sausage legends

>>42400633
Easy global gold

>>42400430
Hololive Productions is an umbrella term both for Hololive and Holostars. How is that confusing? It means "all the vtubers under the Cover banner".

>>42400535
ngl the guy who collapses into a blubbering heap over someone saying 'koyoleech' is a bigger schizo than most

>>42400519
example of leech are shoto and mika

>>42400513
And you're free to go back to /jp/.

>>42400381
>>42400404
Why do Koyori fans completely gloss over how she took everyone’s gimmicks that were already mainstays and used them for herself, stuffed herself in every single collab and stream possible and then orbited around Miko, used her for her worth then dipped out and orbited around Pekora? And then the cherry in top is doing offcollabs with Marine
Like holy fuck. I don’t care if she’s inclined or not. But can you for one single time in your life accept that she leeched off the very top of the top in Holo JP?

>>42400265
>people
One retardm likely you yourself.

There is no such thing as "leeching" between the Holo girls. The box is the greatest strength of the company and a positive thing

>>42400660
Only on subarus channel if half of jp holos die. Bae is a debuff for jp

>>42400630
Yeah they do, I occasionally see people try to make a Salome general thread. She's the only Niji JP talent I've seen that for.

>>42400633
Her o shubas channel?
That is thebdifference between global and cripple gold

>>42400727
no examples? I accept your concession.
and no, the voices in your head don't count as examples

21.00 JST, if it's Bae's channel ouch

It is weird to see how low baes sc have gotten

>>42399678
she's overrated.

>>42400513
free to talk about them here too. maybe you should go back to your designated general if you don't want to talk numbers. Don't get your fee fees hurt so easy.

>>42400777
W-why

>>42400531
A lot of people in this thread specifically did watch JP. But the board as a whole felt left out by that and wanted to bring their tribal shitflinging here.
The random gacha ops used to actually have an effect back then, before they set up camp permanently.

>>42400727
you're still mad about the baby rattle huh? don't think i don't recognize you
also she's not even the holox with the most collabs with marine

>>42400777
Bae channel is giga buff.

>>42400660
Only if they're playing with a single sausage.

>>42400806
Watame is a dumb bitch too. There isn't anything she can do.

>>42400788
Even on subarus channel it would never get global gold. What the fuck are you smoking?

>>42400430
not going to lie before tempus when I wanted to talk about everyone I just used cover and hololive was hololive no matter if they are from JP,EN or ID, the way people force everyone to say ''holopro'' these days feels almost like a type of brainwashing

I will stick to Kanata, Hololive Production only includes holoJP, holoEN and holoID, not stars

did Shoto actually kill Luxiem numbers though

>>42400519
Certified leeches (which have their dedicated schizos): Miko, Moona, Koyori, Kanata.

>>42400873
Bae streamed at jp/yuro hours last month and did so badly that even mori and kiara looked good in comparison

just want to let you know that this "steals everyone's gimmicks" faggot started because of the baby rattle
he still brings it up almost a year later

>>42400727
I love smart leeches. Smart leeches strengthen the holobox.
But seriously, is it technically leeching when the numbers of the ones she is collabing with are still intact?

>>42400844
It isn't. No amount of sprinkling the cutesy voice and doing GFE once in a blue moon will change the perception people have of her.

>>42400504
>I understand your woes but it is a term that aptly describes what you'd call both groups.
In both contexts you mentioned you are correct and for the same reason I mentioned.
The Holofes and the website is run by the managerial staff that oversee both sides.
It is perfectly normal to refer to these things as part of Hololive productions because they arem they have nothing to do with either the girls themselves or the boys themselves but the company

>>42400568
>Mate they have the same expo
True, see above

>were part of the same NYE concert and whatnot
They were not and that's my exact objection. Management (and segments of the audience) is trying to "muddy the waters" in this context but they were clearly two events.

There was the Hololive event and the Holostars event

Why the fuck collab facilitators inbetween holo are being called leeches like the twitch gangs?

>>42401111
jealous bitches

otsuray~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btey1WJ2w3s

>>42400977
No they would have left with or without him. In fact when they were on top Shoto collabs did really big numbers for them. Shoto's reclined right along with Luxiem, he didn't "steal away" their viewers or anything.

Let's see how the CHAD box works.

>>42401111
you talking about the Koyori schizo? it's because he's a schizo.

>>42400606
I am not. There is no such thing as "Holopro" when referring to the boys and the girls, there is "Hololive" and "Holostars".
They might share a managerial structure but, with regards to their content they are completely different agencies which just so happen to have a parent company, much like VSPO and Aogiri High School Girls both belonging to Brave Group.

Nobody would call a collab between Nose and Oshiro Mashiro a "Brave Group collab" despite both belonging to the same parent company.

>>42401054
>post a very self-explanatory image
>still act confused

The longest post I've ever made is only 3 sentences long

>>42401250
I remember there is a koyori hatewatcher but I haven't seen him in months, probably he is satisfied with Koyori's number now that he doesn't post here anymore.

>>42400727
>>42401018
There is no such thing as "leeching" between the Hololive girls. The biggest strength of the company is the "box" they formed and their collabs.

Pippa's gonna beat Selen bros! The meme is happening!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2caAfnZ8kY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffEk4pTo4wI

Mori's live with whatever that is she's doing, about to hit 5k 5 mins in.

>>42400229
>they'd be able to self-fund their 3Ds.
are all the Holos able to?

>>42401402
i just post my complaints about the actual content in the other thread now and take breaks appropriately when im going too schizo

>>42400844
maybe it's one of those "people spend less money on things in January" type things
I imagine most of the girls are probably a bit lower than they've usually been

>>42401502
isn't selen the one who made fun of her for being a who.

>>42401248
Wait, Shoe's alive?