/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Just let us dead forever

holo vs niji now

Why are Sankisei a bunch of weirdos?

>>42352752
That looks normal to me

Ok guys, why is Holo ID the superior branch?

>>42352752
that why noel want to sex with her

>>42352827
They have the sexiest women

>>42352827
Because they let the girls flirt with males. In En, only Mori and Kronii are allowed to do that unfortunately

Reminder that these are the new First Army members.

This thread will be less horny

>>42352827
They are not anon, let's be honest. As much as I don't like En, even the Tempus fags seem to be performing better than almost everyone not named Kobo

>>42352752
Based

Stop breaking the containment faggots.

Another EASY 3view hell escape from my nigga Flayon

>>42352922
>0 gold

>>42352941
almost a perfect cutout anon, you rushed and missed a part

>>42352752
She still upset about the whole "Male in the relationship" huh
Understandable desu

/#/ is declining

>>42352827
>holoid > nijien
Now spread the word and make nijinig seeth.

>>42353000
Who raided?

https://wesave.chat/user/UCBdcU39IKdecfKZDUp3JL2w
You know, reading this, I feel like unityfags are way easier to become homobeggar than actual Star fans/sisters

>>42352941

Alright, as someone who is new year, why do people hate here Irys so much?
The Nijisanji fans hate her and from yesterday, a lot of Holo ID fans hate them too.
I am actually trying to understand that because I really don't understand what she does?
Same with Fauna and Mumei. The three of them are the least offensive members yet they get hate from Stars fans, Niji fans and ID fans

>I like your EN concert idea. Let's announce it during the NJU rerun.
>So how far along are you? The project sounds very ambitious when only half of the people have models and it's in 3 months.
>Btw we heard about one of the livers doing an anti stream, what's the deal? Rumors, I hope.
You're NijiEN management and JP management has hit you with some hard questions. How do you escape this with your job and concert intact?

>>42353117
sorry

>>42350221
Homobeggars/NijiEN fans are furries? I’m shocked I tell you!

sankise
>flare groom the loli
>noel groom the shota
>marine be groom by anyone
>pekora groom the SEA animal

>>42353093
And Niji En>Holo En
So Holo ID>Niji En>Holo En>Niji ID
Kobo is the best entertainer, Moona the bets singer, Kalea the best endurance streamer
We can't stop winning IDbros

>>42353111
>Unityfag are just homobeggar from nijinig
It not that hard to see the correlation since tempiss

>>42353141
>Year
Here*
I am gonna smash my Laptop the next time it autocorrects itself

>>42353141
Only homobeggar, nijifag and unitykek.

>>42353262
its only cute when a japanese girl breaks something

>>42353141
Don't try to make sense out of these hates because they are delusional and most probably they are not even the fans of Nijisanji either. One moment they will shit on Hololive other moment they will shit on Nijisanji

It doesn't count as a view as long as I don't play the vid for 5 or so seconds right?
Reading the comment section on that stupid clip is so fun then you take a look at the subs lol

>>42353111
Homobeggars are the evolution of the unityfags, what comes next after female unity? Male and female unity. That is why we need to gatekeep from these people before it's too late.

>>42353023
Yes, Aqua never got any gold.

>>42353297
I agree, for example; when Mio broke wind

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6wsLrsC9pw

>>42353185
*brony
Even furfags hate genuine bronies.

>>42353111
>2020 holokek is a homonigger
Explain

>>42353141
those three along with Gura have a lot of gachikoi especially in this thread which is basically sapling and hooman central during EN hours. So shitposters bait with them to get yous

>>42353352
She damage controlled that so poorly it makes me wonder how she'd do with a real yab.

>>42353341
Yes, Miko too.

>>42353234
Eh, idk, I watch Vtuber since Kizuna Ai and I don't remember about this level of tribalfagging out in the open

>>42353141
It's literally a single mind broken Nijisister who can't get over IRyS getting 92k for her redesign. That's it. She got btfo so fucking hard she's been spamming IRyS anti threads nonstop in the catalog ever since. It's just that.

>>42353141
I think the ID fans are generally cool but the loud ones are the fucking worst in all of SEA. It's probably because they have branch of their own so they feel the need to somewhat defend their throne. Yesterday were using the Jp overlapping cope even though it was a outfit reveal and not a 3D stream. I don't want to get into that once again but they really seem insecure for some reason. This again only applies to the loud indogs

Stinky 10K

>>42353388
I mean, I'mma be real, I would turn into one too, if I take shits people say /here/ seriously for more than an hour

>>42353141
Indogs are subhuman who fucking cares

>>42353424
You'd think the sisters would be more mad about the concert than a dumb half demon thing.

>>42353408
I think it's just something like farting in particular that she is easily embarassed about.
I think she would handle habs well

>>42353141
The only ID fans who hate IRyS is probably Moons fans because they hate Risu and her fans and IRyS really gets along really well with Risu despite not collabing with her

>>42353529
Yeah and my dick is named habs

>>42353388
>subbed to pewdiepie
>miko is his entry to holo
>mori
probably started with miko's nigga clip

Why does this thread oscillate so much between hating Gura and loving her?

>>42353141
Well, if people use her number to shitpost, expect to get clapped back the moment she underperform
Same with whoever the thread choose to be the punching bag that day
Remember the whole "#2 of EN" debate? Because I sure do

>>42353141
>The Nijisanji fans hate her and from yesterday, a lot of Holo ID fans hate them too.
All enna and aloupeeps deflecting

>>42353141
Are you blind? Kronii gets way more hate here than any of them
IRyS and Mumei have just a couple of dedicated schizos while Fauna gets a moderate amount of shit because everyone here hates saplings

>>42353262
Just type normally anon

>>42353607
they're all baits
there's like one chumbud that's usually active late jp hours

>>42353111
Unityfags are the same people who want to see Avenger movie. The big collab between every vtubers and that won't happen if female Holo doesn't want to collab with male

>>42353619
I am talking about here, literally no one talks about kronii other than the time she streams. I am not taking about the catalogue

>>42353141
See >>42298233
There's your answer

>>42353111
I mean, there's a pretty non-malicious (but still dumb) reason why unityfags think that way.
>I like a thing.
>That other thing is kinda similar to but not quite the thing I like.
>I'd like the other thing if it had more in common with the thing I like.
Of course, if you shift the context even slightly, it's pretty obviously a self-defeating stupid idea. It'd be like saying:
>I like Star Wars.
>Star Trek is kinda similar, but it's not quite Star Wars so I don't like it.
>I'd like Star Trek if it was more like Star Wars.

The only reason the unityfag argument gets traction is because the ex-Tumblrina-current-Twitter moral crusade is trying to lynch people for liking their hobby's status quo. At best, it's in the same pool of "there's nothing to watch/nothing is happening" that's been stewing in HoloEN for months, where this happens to be one of the things people are spitballing for the novelty angle.

>>42353507
Womben hate being wrong

>>42353606
So like 50% of EOP fans?

>>42353111
https://twitter.com/BiggestKusalol/status/1621727930559746048

>>42353607
nijiafricanamericans have been going hard at the falseflags since their company is burning down right now

>>42353141
Neither of those three get much hate. Maybe IRyS gets some but that's mostly because IRyStocrats are sensitive faggots.
The real answer is that whoever is streaming gets the most anti posts against them unless they have really great numbers. Gura hasn't streamed for months but come back when she streams, it'll be people spamming Gura anti posts if they detect a weakness in her numbers.

>>42353555
>Moona fans
>Hating anyone from hololive
The only one i hate is a fucking nijiniggers

>>42353704
more like 10% at this point
more eop newfags came in later with myth

>>42353607
Sometimes when the cutest girls don't stream, their fans pretend to be antis

https://youtu.be/YMxQdHtQFGc
Last 140K

>>42353680
Anon, Tokusatsu has big collabs before Marvel even know making movie was a viable business
It's just curiosity of possible social interaction
And is NOT like it doesn't happen before, so of course Hololive being how they are at the moment would make them the odd one out

This is the average sidebranch and homo watcher ladies and gentlemen.

>>42353748
Honestly I feel like people are only asking the girls particularly the JP girls how they feel about male Collabs because they know it'll get the reddit and 4chan sides of the community both bubbling with free content

>>42353806
hopefully the himehina boost will get it across the line

>>42353141
Ok you want me to be honest, i am jealous that En gets to have someone like IRyS and Fauna and ID doesn't.
I too want a unicorn friendly oshi who cares about someone like me who has no one in real life.
The closest thing we have is Kaela who honestly is hardworking but her streams are deadair.
I like IRyS's charisma and I will continue to shitpost about her until we get an IRyS in ID who can speak my language

>>42353838
And this is the average unicorn sisters and Hologents

>>42352922
Suisei isn't a first army too

>>42353748
So a hlg shitposter huh

>>42353689
I know you are, and as someone who is here 24/7 I can tell you confidently that Kronii is the holoEN who gets the most hate here
IRyS is usually used as shitpost targets by a few nijifags while Fauna has been bullied for getting mogged by Ina every time they overlap and because saplings are obnoxious cunts and the biggest fanbase here

>>42353838
Anon these people consume nothing but clips, the lastest dramanigger video, and whatever garbage their favorite twitterfag tells them.

>>42353748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6AQZdGyQmU
>See, I have my own definite image of what I consider an "ideal idol".
>So basically, collaborating with a male is a bit...
>Well, you know...
>So if you are a guy I don't think you could ever collab with me.
FUCKING BASED PPT, GIVING IT STRAIGHT

>>42353773
Yeah, but back in 2020 (Which is that guy's earliest comment), THAT clip was a big reason for EOP to dig in
Because, well, hilariously, they though "Oh this so-called idol VTuber can do this? They're not like the kind of idols I know at all"
And now you know why EOP fanbase become like that

>>42353919
To be fair, if deadbeats came in here more often then we would shit on Mori to piss them off

>>42353766
>Causally forget about Holofest 3
See anon, I really have nothing against Moona fans, but they did shit the quality of the board. Risu's performance was great too but literally no one typed shit like Moonafics

>>42353943
Don't modern idols do wacky stuff on Japanese TV anyway?

>>42353919
Ok Faunaschizo

>>42353919
>saplings are obnoxious cunts
I'm a sapling and I disavow the retarded """sapling""" who openly numberfags and talks about /#/ in global
please don't associate the rest of us with faggots like him

>>42353919
Saplings only act that way because they have the biggest penises

>>42353950
That one was the exception. I agree hee performance was overrated and those who called her performance the best one should be shot but generally her fans are pretty tamed

>>42353919
>3 saplings come out to gangbang him at the same time

Uuuuu do not bully saplings

>>42353899
This is getting too stupid. Name the Top 10 HoloJPs and let's call them the TOPTEN instead

>>42353976
You think EOP watch Japanese TV?
And yes, this also applies for the fucking LL/Im@s fags that swarmed in the hobby as well

>>42353948
>Saplings treat this like their split
>Fauna starts getting shit on if she underperforms
>IRyStocrats start treating this like their split when she gets a redesign
>IRyS starts getting shit on when her numbers go back to normal
Truly baffling, right?

The lack of Fauna and Mooms today has made me sad and depressed, thankfully my 2view oshi has been at it for 6 hours.

>>42353943
i don't think eops who got in with that clip know what idols are
remember, the first time that came out was before tomaranai hololive

I don't have a problem with Saplings and the ones shitting about IRyS and Mumei's numbers are obviously not spalings. If you check the stats, there is a huge overlap amongst the three of them. Like about 40-50%

>>42353948
All you need is a sneeze from Suisei and that's enough to shit on Mori, let's be real here

>>42354081
Just accept that even JPonly fags tolerate IRyS and Fauna posting more than anyone else, even Gura.

OFFICIAL /#/ TIER LIST
Unculled Gura > Pekora > Marine > Miko > Suisei > Subaru > Aqua > Gura (forma culled) > Korone > The rest

>>42353919
>Kronii is the holoEN who gets the most hate here
Actually that's Mori because she can't even get good numbers anymore. Kronii gets praise when she does get numbers. Unfortunately this is usually followed by Kronies flooding in here and shitting on the other girls which just results in people shitting on Kronii when she flops her next stream

>>42354124
As a Husband I agree

>>42353680
Avengers feels like an off comparison - that's just something like the 2021 sportsfes. A better comparison would be something like DC vs. Marvel (two competing companies/IPs in the same market segment), where it happened once but nobody really cares or wants it to happen in the long run.

>>42354142
Mori barely ever gets discussed here anymore unless she releases music, though when she does get brought up it's usually negative so I guess percentage wise she gets the most hate

>>42353749
New holo anti thread pop up like a mushroom, another hour another another anti thread. Niji defences force hard at work to deflect yesterday shit.

>>42354124
That's because Irys is literally half Jp and Fauna is unicorn friendly

>>42354093
Again, ask EOP what's Japanese idols like, chances are they will bring up
- No bf
- Exploiting young girls
- Bukkake Handshake
And that's pretty much it
They're not wrong, but I do believe it's been getting better since

>>42353950
What a retard. choose a tourist central, wide company event and complain about this board quality.

>>42354142
To be fair I considered this but I feel like for this thread Mori is just a lost cause
Like yeah Mori has been getting shit numbers over and over but does anyone even care at this point?

>>42354227
Well being Japanese and unicorn friendly works for the girls that get the best watch hours

>>42352922
this is a nijipsyop

>>42354240
Risu's performance was the highlight of day 2 unlike Moona, why didn't people do the same thing?
Even Suisei bowed down to Risu, yet we don't see her fans acting like Moonakeks

>>42353414
>I don't remember about this level of tribalfagging out in the open
Oh absolutely, the entire homo collabs arc has been a complete fucking disaster for HoloEN. Except for Mori's TT arc male collabs were never a real issue for HoloEN, the girls had countless sponsorships and professional collabs with dudes and no one ever had a problem with that, now even those are used as ammo for shitposters and will cause a meltdown.
This is why Tempiss is such a massive failure, even if their numbers are decent for StarsJP or whatever they did such damage to HoloEN and its community that I don't think this shit will ever be solved.

>>42354233
they also bring up the reflection in the eye incident
but yeah 90% of the time when I see idols get brought up anywhere other than 4chan it's negative

>>42354081
how about we just shit on the nijis instead?

>>42354261
She mostly gets discussed in the context of her rm these days

>>42353948
How would you even know they’re here?
Not everyone feels the need to scream UUUUUUUUU MOMMY 6K

>>42354331
For what?
I like some of the nijiJP girls

>>42354359
shut up deadbeat

>>42353414
Tempus pretty much divided the fandom

>>42354366
dunno just because, is there a reason to shit on the holos?

What did youtube mean by this ?

>>42354305
Because risu isnt on the same fucking day as gura you retard monkey, holofags praise her performance and niggers use her to shit on ens why is it that hard to understand ? Day 2 kiara also did amazing thing so niggers cant use risu to shit on ens.

>>42354310
It's a dangerous game
The only correct move was NOT to play
And no, not because they're male, but because their audience are retards
But well, they played the game, and now I can only hope they get out of it with as little scratches as possible

>>42354331
Why should WE shit on nijisanji main branch? A lot of hololive (35) members are friends with them. I swear to god it's always you en watchers.

>>42354261
I think it's partly lost cause, and partly because it seems like she's cooled off the yab machine for a decent while so there isn't much to talk about apart from the music numbers that started going to shit ~6 months ago and are kind of a stale story now.

I don't dislike a single HoloJP although I would hatebang Suisex

>>42354375
I believe the "Fandom" was already divided way before the idea of HoloEN was a blip on the radar

Holo En fanbase ranked from best to worst
Brats>Hoomans>Saplings>Takos>Teamates>KFP>Kronies>Deadbeats>IRyStocrats>Chumbuds

>>42354390
People only shit on the holos they think they can do better.
It's why this thread barely bothers to shit on Kiara even though she's at the bottom of HoloEN. She's not going to get any bigger numbers at this point. Same with most of the NijiEN girls who aren't Enna or the 3view squad

>>42354390
This is the numbers thread, if you bury your head in the sand or write paragraphs of cope when a streamer from the company you lik underperforms its just sad. Bad numbers are bad numbers.

>>42354413
It's funny how a moonafic can have the balls to call anyone else a monkey

>>42354446
Basis for this ranking?

>>42354330
Well, 4ch IS an EOP/ESL website after all
I believe option on 5ch/matome would be more nuance, but I don't know Japanese
Honestly, the only reason I can get pass the idol stigma was because my friend was a AKB wota

>>42354427
based
>>42354454
People don't shit on Kiara because even though she is annoying, everything she does is respectable.
Shitting on bad numbers only happen from people that arent antis when there's KFP for example acting like Kiara is equal to someone like Pekora.
Although that behaviour is mostly cumbuds, back when she streamed

When's she moving to holoJPs 0th gen?

>>42354418
NijisanjiJP members were the first streaming vtubers I watched. I enjoyed Shizurin’s super chill Minecraft streams or watching Rion being frustratingly bad at video games or that time she punched the Ender Dragon to death because of a glitch. I stopped watching it when it became too overwhelming with the amount of debuts and became far more interested in what was going on in Hololive.

>>42354441
NTA but yes that's true but tempus did solidify the already existing division and even expanded it, i still remember when holoEN's biggest drama was the lean tweet and when the first trinnity was still a thing...

>>42353414
Back in Kizuna day Vtubing was still a JP thing with one unified culture. Nowadays there are Japan Vtuber culture and western Vtuber culture, 2 different things entirely, so tribalfagging is meant to happen

>>42354524
It's also that discussion on Kiara has been done to death. It's pointless at this point. There's easy things she could try to change to improve her numbers like the voice or her timeslot. But no point in discussing that shit forever when her changing anything is a completely lost cause. Same kinda goes for Ame and Mori too.

https://youtu.be/YG66G9Pi3Uk

>>42353899
Miko isn't a first army too

>>42354565
So like 2020? Trinity was literally always a thinly veiled shield to shit on Mori and Kiara, they didn’t even collab particularly much.

>>42354446
instead of best to worst I'll go from least schizo fanbase to most schizo fanbase

Takos > Brats > KFP > Hoomans > Deadbeats > Saplings > Teamates > Kronies > IRyStocrats > Chumbuds

>>42354575
You say that but the whole Niji-Holo shit flinging was already a thing back in /jp/

>>42354602
Yep, Myth is overrated and we need EN3

https://twitter.com/hardnottocheat/status/1621348237566414849
https://twitter.com/hardnottocheat/status/1621348237566414849
https://twitter.com/hardnottocheat/status/1621348237566414849

Well, let's hope no Vtuber use Marshmallows in the future

>>42354415
Oh absolutely, why changing something that was already working? It was a retarded gamble that backfired harder than anyone ever expected (mainly thanks to Kronii and Ame).
If the homos just stayed in their bubble or if they were a genuine success then sure, fine. But they cause a fuckton of drama that's gonna stay in the community forever and on top of that they are a bunch of ID tier shitter. At this point just debut ID4.

>>42354602
I wouldn't say Ame is a lost cause yet. She's shown that she can still pull decent numbers even in 2023. Although you're right that there isn't much to say about her other than "please be more consistent"

>>42354620
They hate her...

>>42354695
Well it was inevitable. If there's different culture, there's tribalfagging
The best we can do is not to shit on other for enjoying their different thing

>>42354734
Just post one public and/or member post to ask for questions. That would also filter out the antis and beggars

>>42354751
The first time a holo image was used for OP on /vyt/ nijinigs lost the plot

>>42354751
>The best we can do is not to shit on other for enjoying their different thing
Literally impossible at this point I'm afraid

>>42354686
The more the schizo the fanbase is, the more they are Gosling

>>42354750
reddit duck btfo!!!!

just because you post it 4 hours later doesn't mean i don't know it's you posting your own comments

>>42354620
Maybe this is a cultural thing, but in America, if someone replied like Subaru did in her first reply, 99% of the time they're trying to get out of any dinner plans by being vague. Whereas someone trying to set up something concrete would say something like, "sure, when do you want to go?"

>Holo En fanbase ranked from largest trouser snake to smallest
Saplings > IRyStocrats > Chumbuds ≥ Hoomans
> Brats > KFP > Teamates > Takos > Deadbeats > Kronies
It's confirmed by oral measurement by me

>>42354738
Yeah I just meant that them changeing their personalities is a lost cause. Ame can still get numbers but no matter what she's always going to go the ameway. If she wants to stream nothing but debuff shit in bad timeslots for a month, she will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8rLIpeH79I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8rLIpeH79I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8rLIpeH79I

>>42354863
kek

>>42354738
"Just play one off popular games like shark and recycle novel stream ideas from twitch" is basically the only advice for her and it's all she's done for two years.

>>42354912
This is false because saplings are all small-dicked femboys

this is how i know the thread is full of cowards, you keep arguing about which metric benefits who, who's army or whatever but no one will step up and propose a streamer score where metrics are weighted

>>42354967
ogey sis

Suisei not yet sold out I guess she got more stocks
https://twitter.com/sm_japan/status/1621771906386128896/photo/1

>>42354971
the one with more clip views is the king

>>42354912
This is true because the most annoying are at the bottom

>>42354695
Back in the /vyt/ days, NijiJP were basically assholes to every other non-Nijisanji vtuber.

>>42355007
Where the fuck are you retards getting these comments from?

>>42354967
He confirmed it with his mouth anon

>>42354305
>bowed down
That's an overstatement. She always said that there are better singers than her out there, it's nothing special.

>>42354971
More like full of retards
Even /biz/ is smarter than this thread

>>42354686
>Takos

>>42354971
watch hours defines royalty

>>42353555
Moona fans hate IRyS and Risu because, despite how much they hype up Moona as the greatest singer ever, IRyS and Risu are both clearly better than Moona. They resent them for that.

>>42355007
what?

WHERE THE FUCK IS MILLIE?!?!

>>42355119
LOL LMAO

is suisei ado-tier yet?

I love Noel btw and it has nothing to do with her mamazing tits

>>42355001
How much stack does she have?

>>42354967
I can confirm

>>42355119
At the end of the day, fans flock to their oshis not because of talent or some big performance but their personality. That's why Suzy will always have less true fans compared to PekoMarine.

>>42355001
>more stocks cope
More like she's reclining and hoshifags were getting too uppity

>>42355143
No but those are the only girls that I would let piss on my face

>>42355056
>>42355137
Take a wild guess anon
I'm sure you can figure it out where that kind of cmt is from

>>42355007
Better get ready for some Harry Potter streams

>>42354971
>takes everything seriously in the ESL schizo shitposting thread
you should kys anon

>>42353154
It's the work of an enemy stand
hololive's fault

>>42355182
I'd fuck a sapling.

>>42355149
>mamazing tits
freudian slip, the tits are the reason on a primal level

>>42355140
https://youtu.be/Bj5ZuDCl0e4

https://www.twitch.tv/agctv
Taiwan loves Gooba cosplayers

>>42355252
why are you such a coward anon

>>42355182
looks like a kronii to me

>>42355096
Takochads rule this board

>>42353693
>>ex-Tumblrina-current-Twitter moral crusade
The thing is, as someone who has been part of some pretty progressive online communities, even having an anime avatar will get you shat on. I’m still of the opinion that you have a weird mix of MRA redditors and ironic weebs that mostly fit somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum looking upon Japanese culture as inferior to the west and needs to be ‘changed’ for whatever stupid reason. That and people who can’t accept that vtubing is a female-dominated hobby. It makes some people seethe. I’m not saying there aren’t some troons and SJWs involved, but it’s weird to think they’re so adamant about backing ip ‘cishet males’.

>>42355279
>4 days ago

>>42352922
nijinigger psyop

>>42355182
saplings were a mistake

>>42355304
by acting the most schizo due to boredom maybe

>>42354803
When did that happen?

>>42355293
fight me IRL ill snap you like a twig im a navy seal sniper

>>42355305
How did those people get into Hololive in the first place.

>>42355286
Watch this thing for almost 2 hours now Gura is a cheat code for cosplay though a lot of JP specially Marine/Towa/Fubuki.

>>42355001
Suikeks status? Does this mean her bloated merch price were only because of scalpers?

>>42355279
Why the fuck do I always see Luca in 1 on 1 collabs with girls?
>Millie
>Kotoka
>Meloco
>Enna
I'm sure there are many more I'm missing

>>42355330
>anon wont fuck a sapling bussy
faggot

>>42355370
Same reason HoloEN exists and get their early success

>>42355406
It's a well known thing that Luca always tried to leech with girls as much as possible

This isn't cope but every EN fanbase has a few bussies.
Saplings are definitely strong men, like Lunaitos

>>42355406
He is going to raito out and thats why niji cancelled the concert.

>>42355370
Sadly, a lot of them came from anituber youtubers. A group of youtubers that get ire from both the left and right of the political spectrum. Like they’re almost on dramatuber level of universal hatred. Makes sense considering anitubers are Cinema Sins level of awful reviewers.

>>42355440
lol

>>42355437
I would call those people a Mythfags, this seems like people that have got into Hololive with post-Council/Tempus release.

>>42352922
No bitches?

>>42355440
>starts by claiming it's not cope
>it is actually cope
What did anon mean by this?

>>42355465
kek and based*

>>42355440
>saplings
>strong men
Kek

>>42353408
kek she was quite cute in that one because she was doing shirtless situps, I've done that before and sometimes if your skin makes an air bubble when you lie down, a fart sound will happen when you do your next situp.

>>42355440
>>42355182

>>42355484
rape

>>42355209
My guess is a kiara stream, tempus or a dramanigger video

>>42355305
I mean considering how hard the term "incel" has been thrown around, even here, during the homo collab arc it's easy to point fingers at SJWs.
To me it's a weird blend of virtue signaling ledditors who don't even watch streams and will always choose what seems the most conventionally accepted opinion and deranged femcels and trannies, mainly NijiEN fans.

>>42355514
Fauna is fragile, our desire to protect is stronger

>>42355484
Show this image to Aquacrews and they'll cower in fear.

>>42355209
Mori/Kronii/Tempus/Fauna stream/clip/dramabait video

>>42355440
>>42355544
I don't know about other sapling but this one is funny

>>42355535
Incel gets thrown around by everyone these days. I don’t think you can really out someone and their political spectrum because they use that insult anymore. Like a lot of these people are furries and anituber fans. It’s really hard grasping that they would be considered ‘SJWs’ by actual SJWs. I would assume an actual feminist would proclaim that these adult women are being infantilized by a group of people trying to make them work with people they’re not comfortable with. That they’re basically trying to destroy a woman’s ‘safe space’.

These hours are quite comfy.

SUITYAN GOLD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7IHYP7MK_k

>>42355682
they are tire to post shitpost

>>42355695
>GOLD
lmao

>>42355682
you know what else is comfy? AI ass

>>42355286
i already found 5 holo cosplayers

>>42355182
Alternatively, I remembered Norah Vincent who went undercover as a man for 2 years and got severe depression after

>>42354620
>Suba
huh so there's an EN-JP server now, kinda cool

>>42355456
I still think mori is partially to blame for this shit but welcoming the TTfags into the space with open arms

>>42355810
Not really, it's just the ones that wanna hang out

>>42355695
It's a possibility , do niji have an event? If not, then zeta is her only rival for today

>>42355665
I could see SJWs going
>idol culture and Hololive give a toxic and distorted view of women all for the pleasure of an audience of incel males dictating their choices, meanwhile NijiEN talents are strong independent women free to collab with anyone they want
so yeah "muh talent freedom" as usual. But trying to pinpoint this on a strawman political group is retarded anyway.

>>42355856
Her appearance on that podcast was the beginning of the end.

what is the JRPG Peko plan to play next?

>>42355780
AI arts are great to look at only in the first glance, because then your brain immediately focuses on the errors and then they're nothing but abominations.

>>42355665
it's silly in the first place to narrow it down to some political point. It's groups of people that want Hololive to change or stay the same for personal reasons. There's different factions within each side choosing different reasons to argue. What it boils down to is grown ass men and women arguing on the internet about anime girls and how the grown ass women piloting them choose to do so.

tldr; everything is pointless the world should be judged and burned.

>>42355893
still nice, because it sounds like an girls-only no homo discord group, I hope Goombus is also in

>>42355894
Suisei is only strong for her music, no way she's beating ID reveal

>>42355801
Oh damn, just found out she killed herself.

>>42355949
>it's silly in the first place to narrow it down to some political point
>t. burgers

>>42354734
Elon Musk is fucking retarded

>>42355934
kneel
https://twitter.com/8co28/status/1621371932297011200?t=vtNwjOhrvA26Zn8SdYrOrg&s=19

>>42355928
Probably one piece odyssey.

>>42356095
>uncanny valley up the wazoo
Holy shit, just when I thought it couldn't get worse, you found something that proves it can.

>>42355665
I’m going to add to this that have discussed this issue with relatively progressive women (I mean, feminists, basically) who are familiar with vtubing but isn’t really watching it. To them, vtubing was a means to allow women and lgtbq+ to safely stream and be highlighted in a streaming sphere dominated by men. When you tell them that there are men and they are straight or cishet (as is famously a popular term to use these days) that are not only entering this predominantly women-dominated hobby, but also taking up an overwhelming amount of spots in the two major corpos despite being a minority in vtubing it’s usually met with some disappointment. (I also got some shit from actual vtuber fans who laughed that I considered any male vtuber joining Anycolor/Cover was a spot taken away from a woman, but they were straight men who watched luxiem, so I ignored their diatribe) Also mentioning that most male vtubers push BFE content gets a general ‘yuck’ considering they’re basically manipulating female fans out of money. It’s actually worse for male vtubers because they almost exclusively push BFE compared to female vtubers. But that’s an example of why I’m not particularly convinced that the types pushing males on the girls are not traditionally ‘liberal arts graduation feminists’ pushing this shit.

>>42355856
Mori is ALWAYS to blame for everything. Other than the TT shit, using Hololive to funnel her RM account and being a honorary Vshojo member, Kronii had her retarded drama arc just after getting close with Mori for some fucking reason.
Also rrat but I'm 100% sure that she's at least partially responsible for Tempiss. I can see her trying really hard to convince mangament that a Twitch reject like Fagni and homo collabs like her beloved Vshojo was exactly what HoloEN needed to incline.

>>42356059
Average business major larping as engineer, nothing that faggot does surprises me anymore.

>>42356145
true art

>>42356159
Shut the fuck up Kronie everyone is sick of your retarded cope.

GO ROBERT GO

>>42355934
sometimes being an abomination is the point
https://youtu.be/IIGagu_Pars

>>42356159
I don’t think Kronii has the volition to do this shit on her own. It’s why I don’t dislike her like I do Mori who treats this whole thing as a joke.

>>42356215
IIKKUUZZZOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>42355182
This face...
Buy a kigu dumbass

goob tweet

>>42355665
>anitubers
The western anime fandom in general has an extremely strong SJW presence that detests "Japanese taste". See: them malding that degenerate harem animes outsold "kino" Chainsawman.

>>42356259
nijiEN can't beat my dumbass son

>>42355561
No bitches, huh?

YAGOO NO
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1621784924268421121?t=jOshdrlpxwi7aKzL5C5ykw&s=19

>>42356276
That urchin,, me

>>42356259
>Nijiggers think they're our rivals
>can't even beat Roberu
Rumao rumao roru roru

>>42356235
>noo guys you don’t understand it wasn’t Kroniis fault please let her in your club
Pathetic

why does youtube do this to me, I only watch hololive and don't talk about this place outside of here. I also use a different browser, without any log in, to post here.

Can myskek get 10k today bros?

>>42356276
i want to splood all over gooba's hand...

>>42356331
Youtube reccomend trash video to trash viewers. What's wrong?.

>>42356235
The thing i hate mori is becouse she treat her own fans like shit and lie to them

>>42356384
We aren't talking about your mother here. Why does youtube do this? Are they watching me?

>>42356331
>bored

>>42356283
Many of those people have to fall in a political spectrum to feel superior to ‘le inferior Japanese culture’.

>>42356276
Gura pissed herself while masturbating...

>>42356151
Maybe it's because the ones you spoke to don't really watch vtubing. The driving force for these male x female collabs boils down to people wanting to watch men and women flirt on stream, and wanting more streams that cater to them, if they don't watch vtubers in the first place they won't really care. Add to that the fact that idol culture has been made the boogeyman by Western media for years and it's easy for white knights to weaponize their opposition to "toxic idol culture" and make themselves feel like they're performing a crusade for good when all they're doing is trying to make what they want to watch the only possible option. Maybe these people aren't "true feminists", but the way they crusade and coach their arguments certainly is inspired by more progressive circles.

>>42356276
gura has a 3 pronged cock...

>>42356430
I don’t care how she treats her fans. I care about how she treats her coworkers. She genuinely doesn’t seem to respect them because she’s an ‘ironic weeb’ and her coworkers are gross normal weebs.

relax sisters

>>42356309
Yagoo is going to use AI for holoearth...

>>42355286
watched it a while and there are a ton of holo cospalys, both EN and JP
niji, maybe one that was supposed to be chihiro but i'm not sure, and that's it

>2.5k
WHORE OF HOLOSTARS

>>42356524
He should just fire EN management and replace them with AI. Would do a much better job.

>>42356309
>significant followings

>>42356560
>He should just fire EN and replace them with AI. Would do a much better job.
Fixed

>>42355182
>People are /becoming/ Fauna
She really is a Lamy

>>42355182
S this is the average uuu poster...

Sisters can seethe about Fauna all they like but she will never yab

Sex with VALIS' rrats

>>42356331
>I only watch hololive and don't talk about this place outside of here
Smells like bullshit.

>>42356331
Because vtubers do "react" stuff and there was a viral outbreak of faggots yassing at Suisei, Susan thinks we're into media that comments on other media. Half my recommendations now are fake internet musicians making screaming monkey face about recently deceased real musicians.

>>42355535
>I mean considering how hard the term "incel" has been thrown around, even here, during the homo collab arc it's easy to point fingers at SJWs.
Anon, that's like saying everyone who use trannies as an insult is from /here/

>>42356430
Engish

why the fuck are we talking about fauna

>>42356779
>everyone who use trannies as an insult is from /here/
But that's right

>>42356795
I MISS FAUNA UUUU

>>42356580
>t. intern
shut up and go back to work!

>>42356750
why would I ever want to let normal humans know I come here? I have the link to it hidden in a file called NTR Pegging cause it's less embarrassing that having someone find out I hang out in this place.

>>42355856
>>42356159
Anon, you know the whole TT business is Kadokawa and Cover-sanctioned, right?

roberto is getting too powerful

>>42356494
You’re just stringing together buzzwords.

Gold candidates today?

>>42356159
Man this image brings back memories of the entire Kronii/Vesper shitshow. Back when no one knew what the fuck was going to happen next and people were wondering who would be the next to dive headfirst into Tempus collabs and in the end the answer was: no one
I felt like doing an archive dive just to see how people's takes aged.

>>42356813
>intern
The what now? EN includes the management too, retard

>>42356773
I absolutely can't stand music reactors. Someone who breaks down the songs and music behind them and does in depth analysis can be interesting but if you click on one of those you'll get that stupid face in recommendations for weeks.

...

>>42356466
The funniest thing is I haven’t seen a group unironically throw out the word ‘misandry’ this mich since MRAs roamed the internet. It’s really quite amusing.

explain to me why any NijiEN drama is almost career-ending compared to other EN corpos

>>42356876
fuck off omega!

T-chan removed the post about Kanata's stance on male collabs

>>42356851
If there is no niji event, then suisei, zeta and peko

>>42355949
>tldr; everything is pointless the world should be judged and burned.
dang bitch
how about you at least do a flip so i have something to laugh about?

>>42356910
The only good music reactors are the vocal couches or actual music producers who their shit

>>42356978
I don’t give a FUCK about what cunts on Reddit are doing

>>42356978
not even surprised, there weren't any nijis in it and it didn't support the narrative.

>>42356978
Link to the post? I can't find it if it's deleted

>>42356978
kek

>>42356978
If it wasn't automodded, it's probably because Kanata's one of the only talents who still use the Reddit

>>42356978
Imagine if someone posted it again haha

>>42356990
>zeta gold
imagine the lewds

>>42357038
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/10t5eqt/the_reason_why_kanata_doesnt_collab_with_males/

>>42356978
>leftard media behavior

>Numbers Thread
>There are no numbers

>>42357007
Do you have any idea how hard it is to do a flip. If a cartwheel is ok I may be able to pull it off I guess.

>>42356978
It didn't support the "ONE BIG HOLOPROFAMILY" narrative.

>>42354863
>MR
did you just assume his gendar

>>42357067
>only 25 comments and 0 upvotes
I guess no one cares when it's Kanata lmao

>>42357079
just open vstats dude, this thread serves no purpose other than being a hangout for brain rotted people

>>42357079
Sorry this is the screenshot your reddit comments thread

>>42357110
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>42357079
1 deleted reddit post

>>42357086
ok but only because it will remind me of Korosans kino moment

>>42356740
They are cats...

>>42357118
Well he does sound like a faggot so I'd assume his biological gender is male with a severe lack of testosterone

>>42357125
Likes were fluctuating between 0 and 1.

>>42357079
Gura ate 6 pringles at once the other day.

I mean, you can go cry about it on Discord
Consider how much she's controlled by them, surely you can make her change her mind

>>42357110
She will change her mind, just needs some good old gaslighting.

>>42357079
The balloon was reported to be flying in the stratosphere, where it would not pose a safety risk to commercial aircraft due to its high altitude;[5][6] balloons usually operate between 24,000 and 37,000 meters (79,000 and 121,000 ft), exceeding airliners' usual maximum altitude of 12,000 meters (39,000 ft).[7] It was tracked over Montana in early February, passing over the continental United States after traveling over the Aleutian Islands and Canada.[6]

>>42357257
>JUST GIVE IT TIME

>>42357312
I mean ... Kronii happened
Do pray that Kanata will never meet Mori IRL lol

>>42356978
Probablely automod because it wasn't locked which is usually the sign that she did something.
https://new.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/10t5eqt/the_reason_why_kanata_doesnt_collab_with_males/

>>42357358
She did meet her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esvHF88NBz8
Choco-sen...

>>42357175
My whole life is a lie..

>>42357396
There's one MV where you can see their cat heads...

>>42357358
You’re fucking retarded.

>>42357358
Kronii had nothing against male collabs from the start

>>42357430
>>42357396
You will watch their LIVE, right anon?

>>42357358
Kanata fucking lived with Coco, if that didn't manage to tear her ideals down nothing will.

Here's some numbers

>>42357466
At least link it
https://youtu.be/FSXf49gA0qM

That clip can be reported to Cover for being malicious slander right? Especially with the blatant holostars logo when she did not mention them at all. All it ever does is cause problems for Kanata, and the owner let the comment section fester without moderation.

>>42357546
Yeah, you can

>>42356331
if it's any consolation, dude made a video about twitterfags as well

>>42357546
Yes, absolutely.

>>42357567
I'd say people here are relatively sane compared to twitter. And some numbers

>>42357486
Anon, living with Coco is what made her a lesbian
Change my mind

>>42357546
That's probably why it was removed from reddit too, saw some people commenting the same thing so they probably reported it for that.

>>42356283
i was the one who commented something similar in response to a Kanata clip in the previous thread, but their attempt to subvert japanese media is very ironic because what they're doing is literally cultural appropriation. it's okay to be racist when they're the ones doing it.

>>42357516
What the FUCK are those tags?
>random fleshstreamers playing game
>tags: vtuber, furry, NTR, depression, futa, pregnant
is it shitposting? And how the fuck are those tags allowed on Twitch anyway?

>>42357546
I mean, does it count as slander when it's what she said?

>>42357627
400ccv

Some cool streams happening right now I'm watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZpx70453WQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adLYwCrfr_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzUmwxCouvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1D4AhmdRZM
I hope all their numbers are good!

>>42357651
I was what made her a lesbian, it was my first time and I was a little rough with her so she's somewhat leery of men now, sorry.

>>42357516
>tag: schizophrenia
neat

>>42357368
so homobeggars got butthurt and reported it

>>42357687
She never gets strong numbers but she's a holomom so she gets a pass in a lot of ways.

>>42357486
Instead what happened was the other way around.. she managed to turned coco into a unicorn

>>42357486
Wasn't she already les long before debut

>>42357666
I mean, "Schizophrenia" is a tag

>>42357627
yea, 90% of regulars here just pretend to be retarded to shits n giggles.
funny how most places outside of /here/ think that comments made on 4chan are all supposed to be taken seriously.

>>42357515
>Flesh edition
Ehhhhh... Maybe later to get some good tummy shots

>>42357724
What's an anti-Jun gang called?

Interesting numbers

>>42357872
The hololive(nijisanji) discord

>>42357872
Sylvie(giftcard) gang

>>42357891
>Return to begging doesn't have blur lines
Lazy loop

>Axel privated his Apex stream
What yab did he commit now?

>>42357972
>max amount
nice effort but you know it's not gonna work

I'll be honest seeing Kaela numberfag so hard during her outfit reveal kinda soured my opinion of her

Boring day. I thought ID outfit would put up a bigger fight
Suisei gold today huh

>>42357855
descarteschama...

you just need to look at seanig facebook groups to see that we have genuine retards among the anons in this board.

>>42357972
the jap has spoken, I'm sure this one will get through the management

>>42357972
She can live for a year on that money in Indonesia

>>42357972
It's this faggot with the rabbit pic again, after making miko cry who's he targeting this time?

>>42358030
if your oshi aren't numberfag, then she's failed to be an entertainer

>>42357966
looks like it's just language, probably said cunt or some aussie shit.

>>42357972
Literally who? Why are you guys circle jerking random clips/SC now?

>>42357966
idk I went dumpster diving through mans its about some joke or no-no word or something

>>42358083
It's a SC sent to ollie

>>42357972
ollie right now

>>42358100
Then why tf would it matter. Thought it was sent to a JP or some shit

>>42358126
Go back

>>42358083
it's an anti homos sc sent to ollie, it's funny i guess

>>42358030
Why are you in /#/ if you hate numberfag chuubas

I shouldn't have watched this video. Did I really need to? I know the reason, but my curiosity got the better of me.
I know shouldn't have read this comment section. It took me out of the "we're all here to enjoy the funny/talented streamer" bubble, and reminded me of the nasty undercurrent that this sort of entertainment brings out in people and in some cases, thrives on.
I don't expect it it, or demand it; you work with what you're comfortable it. But the concept that something as basic as interacting with employees of the opposite sex is Off-The-Table strictly because some people WILL go nuts about it, it's baffling and weird to me.

It honestly makes me think a little, just a little, less of anyone who consciously makes that decision. Not because of the lack of familiarity, lack of interest, time, or hell, not being comfortable around the opposite sex in certain settings, and not feeling like they could perform/represent themselves properly, but "I Can't Because Idol Culture Reputation". I mean, if we get a talent that's Obviously Black, and people make a stink about it, will they be afraid to cross that line too?

I thought it was mostly a Japanese thing due to having the "idol culture" longer, thus harder to uproot, but apparently, it's here on the EN side too.
The idea that Kronii had to make a public announcement about doing collabs with whoever she wanted because of harassment is just sad. It really had to go that far? Are there people seething that Kronii isn't playing Minecraft with Mumei, but playing Monopoly with Calli, Vesper and Magni?

I don't know. Maybe I'm just the odd one out here. Maybe I just don't understand.
At the end of the day, I just want to watch these people have fun, and maybe send some support here with the little I can. This "Hiss, my oshi talking to guys makes me furious!" attitude is weird and the extremes people go over it is off putting.
Honestly, it's kind of embarrassing to even be remotely associated with this, I sometimes just want to drop everything and just go start reading books instead.

my cute wife
good night anons

>>42358160
imagine saying this shit in the thread that shits on kiara and koyori constantly

>>42358089
it's funny/sad that not enough people watch him for anyone to know what he even said.

>>42358176
We love Koyori and her first army numbers here, fuck off.

>>42358089
>>42358079
Yeah I went looking too, he's teaching his chat Hong Kong protest racial slurs or some shit.
>>42355906
>>42355970
>>42356149
>>42356041
>>42356140
>>42356150
>>42354745

>42358167
I see you got new material from that clip schizo

>>42357972
kek, what a waste of money

>>42357972
is she response this?