/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4227812
Ina = Kiara > Mori > Ame >>>>> Gura

>>4227812
Ame=Kiara=Mori=Ina=Gura

Gura = Ame = Kiara = Mori = Ina
Unity love!

>>4227812
Kiara>>>>>>>>>>Ina>Ame>Mori>Gura

>>4227853
>>4227844
Exactly all are trash!

Anybody who ranks Ame low doesn't watch her member streams

Kiara >>>>> Mori > Ina > Ame > Gura

Kiara > Ina > Rest
I'm not sure the other 3 even like their fans

Gura=Ame=Kiara=Mori=Ina
They all hate their fans equally, they only joined Hololive for the money

>>4227910
She hardly ever does a member stream. I was subbed for like 3 months and there was hardly anything.

>>4227949
So you're telling me that Kiara hates black people? Fucking based.

>>4227971
She literally does a member stream once a week

>>4228007
What the fuck? Does she do non T1 streams that I dont know about?

>>4227812
Gura is last, that's all I know.

>>4227971
>I was subbed for like 3 months and there was hardly anything.
why you lie anon?

>>4228059
She at least reads super chats and attempts to interact with her viewers

>>4228059
>>4228106
she loves her members a lot

>>4228144
Gura and Ame hate tourists but love their actual fans

>>4228144
>she loves the people who give her money
Wow sugoi

Gura's members streams are where she showed her love...like a lot

>>4228175
This is the problem, if we count grays I believe Ame and especially Gura go at the bottom, but if we go by "members only" they love their fans just as much as everyone else.

>>4228189
>This shitty bait
Read Gura's gray chat for like 2 minutes and you will understand.

>>4228284
I don't count grey names as fans

I see, Gura only shows you love if you give her money.

>>4228189
>>4228356
>he's still trying

>>4227833
>>4227916
>>4228059
>>4227918
>Gura last
>My viewers! I want them to know how much I love them!
>The ocean may be big, but my love for you is even bigger!

>this thread
>aka "my oshi loves her fanbase more than your oshi"

they all love their fanbases but the way they choose to display it varies depending on their own skills, experiences and beliefs

they don't seethe over bad jokes or criticisms, like the rrats suggest because they're all aware they owe their fans the world

Kiara top because of the combination of explicit love for her fans, time she spends doing superchat readings, ability to remember specific fan names and express concern about them (like "I hope your exam went well" to that one guy). I truly believe she loves and appreciates her fans.

Ame and Gura probably coming next, both seem to have a great deal of love and respect for their fans. Ame in particular will usually ask her fans if they're OK with her changing something or doing things a certain way, and in her more vulnerable moments really gets emotional about how much the support of her fans means to her. Gura as well, so I think they're about tied for second, and if I want to give Ame an edge it's probably just personal bias because I watch Ame more.

I'd put Mori #4 on the list, easily. She expresses gratitude to her fans but it kind of rings hollow because she is so lazy and treats her job like such a burden. You can tell she doesn't even really enjoy streaming anymore and loves disappointing her fans and leaving promises unfulfilled. It's pretty bad.

Ina, well, I'd put her #5 simply because she literally never acknowledges or thanks her fans for supporting her and doesn't read superchats at all. But also she seems to have this kind of "I don't really need you" attitude towards her fans and towards Hololive in general, it's just something that she shows up to. I'm sure her fans love her but it seems like she does what she does for herself, not for their sake, and they are just kind of showing up to it. The fact that chat engagement is so low that there was a running theory about her pre-recording her streams was kind of funny but also sort of depressing in terms of what it says about her chat engagement. So she comes in last in my opinion.

>>4228502
Absolutely this

Ina doesn't even stop to read superchats. If she is anything other than last then you need your head checked.

>>4227812
Kiara is the only one that acknowledges the existence of her fans, primarily the ones simping her superchats and can recognize some of their names.

>>4228502
>Actually watches the streams
You are overqualified for /vt/ bro

Is this meme thread called "gura hate her fans"?
Because it's absolutely not

>>4228439
>Everyone who replies to me is the same person.
Take your meds.

Chumbuds = Takos > Deadbeats > KFP >>>>> niggers >> Teamates

>>4228696
anon, all the girls remember some of their regulars, heck, even Mori with her leaky bucket brain remembered getting mail from one and pointing it out during an SC reading

>>4228502
Agreed with everything

>>4227916
Replace gura with ame then yeah

>>4228716
>>4228754
>multiple provable inaccuracies or generalizations in every paragraph
c-confirmation bias sugee...

>>4227812
Gura = Ame = Kiara = Calli = Ina
There's not space for a single piece of watercolor paper between them in this respect. They might show it in different ways, but it's right there on screen.

>>4228748
t. ARSnigger

>>4228748

>>4228502
>Ina the girl who broke down in tears at the Times Square stunt and said she can't fathom what she could have done to be so blessed in her life doesn't give a shit about Hololive

ogey

>>4228854
>It takes her birthday and the takos building a fucking temple in the middle of Times Square for Ina to show any emotion
I don't personally believe this at all because I know it's not true, but your argument is kind of null with that example. I think that Ina doesn't interact with fans that much outside of Q&A because she doesn't feel like she needs to, it's a different type of streamer basically.
It will always boil down to the DYRBI situation, we don't know what's going on inside their heads.

>>4228854
It's a ranking, anon. Someone has to be last.

>>4228748
>Chumbuds = Takos
lmao

Kiara >>> Ame > Mori > Gura >>> Ina

>>4228748
>t. cumshart

Ina and Ame are the only ones that love their fans. Kiara just views them as ego fuel, Mori doesn't give a fuck, and Gura is too drunk to care about anything.

Ina > Mori > Gura > Amelia > Kiara

>>4229676
Are u alwight?

>>4227812
Gura is getting better at hiding her disgust for her mongoloid fanbase

Kiara >>> Ame > Gura >>> Ina >>> Calli

>Kiara
Should not even have to explain this one. She's the most serious about being an idol, and fans are the lifeblood of an idol. She loves her fans and it's obvious.

>Ame
Her life was shit before hololive and she makes sure people know how grateful she is for their support.

>Gura
Has a lot of banter with her fans. I don't think she had much of a future before hololive either, so I think she's sort of similar to Ame.

>Ina
Thinks her fans are alright. As an anon said, it took them booking a billboard in times square to bring her anywhere close to tears. The other three I've mentioned so far would have cried or showed more emotion over less.

>Calli
Friendzones her fans, like Fubuki. This is trash tier fan appreciation. You don't have to go full menhera GFE, but you should at least not friendzone them.

>>4229889
> Fubuki
that time when a fan requested mehera option and she after thinking 2-3 seconds said wakaranai

[My oshi] > [Not my oshi] > [The EN I dislike the most]

There we go. I simplified most of the posts in this thread to save you time.

>>4229997
55th post best post

>>4229962
I honestly don't understand how fubuki is popular. Yes, she's cute, but how can you like someone who explicitly friendzones you and reminds you of it often?

>>4228319
nor people

>>4230068
For the same reason KFP goes "no way fag" when Kiara begs chat to marry her

>>4230456
we proposed to Kiara during LOTR watchalong though and she said she was rejecting us and also selling the rings on Ebay

>>4227812
Image looked pretty good as a preview but now all I can see is the necks.

>>4230483
Kiara rejected KFP? What the fuck?

Ame >>> Gura > Ina > Kiara > Mori

>>4230540
Kiara is on 20 layers of incest workplace relations cult leader etc. reasons to not marry the KFP

>>4229997
>I'm biased so everyone else is, you cannot have a discussion
The majority agrees Kiara is at the top and I'm sure not everyone here is a KFP. I personally agree and I don't watch Kiara much.

You can never know what's going on in their head or even behind the scenes and people express care in different ways. Maybe Mori thinks that showing love to her fans is by grinding away and working hard.

If we're gonna talk about who displays it the most outwardly then I would rank it
Kiara>Ame>Gura=Mori>Ina
Seeing people say Gura, Ina, or whoever don't care about Hololive is bullshit and probably based on their vague impressions or narratives they had when they debuted and don't actually watch streams. I feel like Kiara and Ame stand out in terms of wanting to know and understand their viewers. While the last three are kinda intimidated by their fanbase. The feeling of it doesn't feel real transfers they can't really come to terms with it. Which is why Ina and Gura had such a genuine reaction to the billboard thing and Gura getting fan letters

>>4229997
I am sure Kiara has the most gratitude simply because being a fan of hers is probably the worst experience so she has more to be thankful for to the people who love her. It's kind of like if you were a maid and you cleaned five different mansions, and the one with the sloppiest mansion who had the worst messes for you always left the nicest tips. That degree of gratitude would be warranted and understandable.

>>4231322
>le Mori works hard meme
found the deadbeat

>>4229810
You accidentally pressed shift anon
Ina < Mori < Gura < Amelia < Kiara

>>4231373
>meme
Found the retard

Gura = Ame = Ina = Kiara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mori

>>4231373
Ranked second to last and I said maybe as in for example. But ogey.

>>4231322
This is pretty much my opinion

>>4227812
They're all garbage

>>4231373
Right, making music is so easy

>>4230068
Or maybe that's a joke and your EOP ass is getting filtered.

People like her for similar reasons people like Ina. Cute, competent, someone who's stable, burning with passionate but tries to keep their powerlevel in check

>>4228502
>actual watches their stream
I kneel to non-clip only fags!

>>4230068
eopfag begone

>>4231656
>it's a joke
Has she ever shown any semblance to confirm she's not friendzoning her fanbase, or are you just coping?

Ina's the only one who loves her fans enough to not let them fall into a parasocial relationship with her so they can focus on their own lives instead of being glued to the screen circlejerking about their love for her like KFP and teamates. She also encourages them to do their reps and wants them to succeed.

It's not the kind of love most people want but it's the love that they need, even if it feels soulless.

>>4231656
>>4231771
Rushia is my oshi. She knows how to treat her fans right.

>>4231808
Cringe.

>>4231808
>loves her fans enough to not let them fall into a parasocial relationship
The level of cope, holy shit.
loving every laugh

>>4230068
Go outside anon. FBK is actually a genuine friend to her fans and spends all day on Twitter interacting with fans and other vtubers. She's great if you're not a parasocialfag.

>>4231997
They're not your friends. They don't care about you. If they're gonna larp, they may as well larp with GFE.

>>4227844
Spbp

>>4232081
Some people would rather have a friend than a girlfriend. GFE is boring and overdone. FBK's audience is the people who want someone more like a male streamer that just plays games and talks about cool stuff instead of forcing a fake image.

>>4232081
But what if I want a gf that's like Ina or FBK, a close friend or partner so to speak.

GFE is a prostitute's territory

>>4231808
oh so it's like that Johnny Cash song "Boy Named Sue"

>>4227971
>>4228046
Youtube sucks so sub streams don't show up in your sub box, you have to go to her community tab to see them. Maybe that's why you missed it. But yeah she does at least one every week.

>"no worries i'm not going anywhere you're stuck with me!"
after that she's my happy pill no matter what
i don't mind if she hates me

>>4228502
ina literally waited for a guy to wake up for his spot in line for the members apex games and she ran it back with them if they got shat on too quick, whens the last time anyone in EN actually organized something like this?

I'm a Chumkek but i kneel to KFPs Chicken love for her Niggers

>>4227812
Kiara and Calli despise their fans.
Ame thinks mostly low of them.
I am not sure about Gura and Ina.

>>4231808
She loves her fans so much she just takes their money and doesn't even read the messages that come with it. Wow, so based.

>>4228502
totally agree, ina doesn't read most of the superchat, unlike other that read them in the end of stream or atleast make entire stream just reading superchat. you know most of superchat sender want their oshi read their superchat

>>4232246
>overdone
Please make it more obvious that you don't know anything or watch anyone.
>FBK's audience is the people who want someone more like a male streamer
They should try watching a male streamer then.

>>4228669
>>4228502
Okay, it seems you smooth brain faggots need to have everything spoonfed since you can't actually think for yourselves and read between the lines or simply watch streams instead of taking wild rrats and making your opinion on the girls based on that.
She was a hikki nerd herself, depressed because just making art by yourself isolated from the world is shitty. Her personality is all about self improvement, and she knew she had to improve herself, be more social, stop being autistically closed off on her own world. And she lists this as one of the reasons why she joined Hololive in the first place. Her oshi back then was Fubuki, and if you look at both their streams you will see how much influence Friend has on Ina's streams. They have the same "brand" of cuteness and keep the same distance between themselves and the viewers, only occasionally throwing a bit of fanservice our way.
Why does she does that? Does she not care about her viewers? Well, as I pointed out, she knows exactly what vtubing, anime and waifuism does to lonely otaku. You get stuck, you don't improve and you distance yourself from others.
Ina doesn't want you to be a gosling. Ina wants you to be Lars. That you hang out with her when you need a comfy time, but that when she is gone you are able to move on. She doesn't want you to spend your hard earned money on her, she would rather that you use that money to take a trip and send her photos using the takogram. She doesn't do superchat readings because she knows they are a waste of everyone's time when a Q&A and/or a dedicated zatsudan delivers the same content in a smaller amount of time. She doesn't want you to love her, she wants you to heal your wounds and move on. She wants you to get better, not be a greasy otaku that dies alone in their room at 40 from heart failure. And she is trying to achieve that by doing content that can be consumed in a healthy manner, without getting obsessed. That puts a smile on your face, but doesn't leave a void when it ends. Is there a greater form of love than wishing and doing the best you can to ensure the other person ends up in a better place in life? Aren't parasocial relationships just an expression of vanity?
Do your reps, take your meds.

PS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSOKLRsCzTk

>>4227812
Ina > Mori > Ame >>>Kiara > Gura

Kiara just sees them as paypigs to propel herself, and Gura has no real connection to her fans.

>>4237954
b-b-b-b-based and truthpilled

>>4238015
Splitcuck hands typed this post

ayame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ame > ina > kiara > mori > gura

>>4237954
>Ina doesn't want you to be a gosling.

Anon, she failed.

>>4238295
I know, same. I wouldn't have taken 15 minutes of my day to write that if i wasn't hopelessly in love

>>4237954
You almost had it anon, but you failed to think that the ones who choose to being in a paraoscial relationship are the fans themselves.
Even with Ina not reading and saying she is not a therapist, their fans are the same as Teamates-deadbeats-kfp-chumbuds, they is still donating her and giving that time squares gift for her. If your oshi is really doing it for their fans she is failing her mission

>>4230068
I like fubuki because she is literally the guardian fox of hololive. She is, first and foremost, trustworthy, as well as pretty quirky, not a bad singer, and generally just great with variety streams. Mostly though, I respect her for her demonstrated principles, especially so after the events with China. She is the friend you'd want to have IRL who would stick with you when things get tough. She isn't my oshii though.

Fucking clip watchers putting Ame in the bottom

>>4227971
>>4228046
Ame literally just had a member stream where she let members vote for which movies to watch for watch-a-longs for the next 5 weeks.

>Ame sets discord meet & greet goal for her charity stream
>her entire chat tells her it's a bad idea because there will be trolls
>Ame doesn't care because she thinks it's a great goal and doesn't want to let trolls ruin it for her real fans
>/vt/ puts in bottom two of who loves their fanbase most

>>4228748
Hey nigger. We're debating on who cares for their fans the most, not who has the gayest fans.

>>4227812
Ina
Kiara
Ame
Mori
Gura

>>4228748
average pedo
checks out

>>4228448
Gura is good at lying through her teeth. When she says she loves you she actually hates you.

>>4227971
why would you lie about something so easily verifiable?

>>4238203
The whore who plays more LoL off stream and streams once a week tops?

>>4238793
Wait what? How much is it to get a personalized gremlin screech?

>>4239702
>whore
lmao wrong, but she's still mogging your oshi

>>4228175
believe it or not Gura sometimes answers the gray chat , even something like 'can you speak Korean?'

>>4227812
rate your oshi

>>4228502
>she is so lazy and treats her job like such a burden
>proceeds to make the 2nd album dedicated for the deadbeats and their support

>Mori just up and ditched everyone for some extra time to slurp some rapper schlong

uhh, she better be dead last

I don't really know about rankings, but Kiara is most definitely at the top.

Kiara is in a parasocial relationship with chat. She speaks to chat like they're all her BFF.

>>4227812
Get fucked chumfucks Gura hates all of you

>>4228502
t. kfp

>>4237954
Nah I don't dislike Ina but this is pure cope.
If she paid attention to you, you'd be writing about how attentive she is. If she didn't, you'd be writing about how she wants you to be better.
The only thing this shows is how much faith you have.
Fubuki, suisei, ina and some others don't do SC readings. That's their choice. We don't have to dignify the choice with world-saving rrats.

>>4239738
I think the charity goal is going to be $50k in a 12 hour stream.

>>4231808
Based

>>4232449
This
All GFE schizos are whores

>>4239798
>proceeds to do her job while throwing out a token 'thanks for all the money, suckers' comment
wow, maybe when she comes back from her fiftieth break she can find time to read all the concernfagging akasupas she baited for today

>>4228502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSOKLRsCzTk
Watch this.
Sit down and be humble.

>>4240280
I unironically wish I had a little sister like Ame.

>>4232449
>>4240280
All of them are digital prostitutes, you dumb bitch. Hololive, and VTubers as a whole, is a cabaret club for the modern era.

>>4237954
Good luck, takobros.
I've gotten a lot of pep talks throughout my life, but nothing ever skyrocketed my energy levels and sociability like gfe from my oshi.
Perhaps we all just have different needs, and the girls love their fans in different ways.

>>4237954
tl;dr - you're not living your life correctly, let someone else tell you how to be happy instead

the sheer cope takos have to go through, I swear

>>4240349
Here's a pity you, as I know Mori wouldn't want any of her haters going hungry.

>>4239782
idk, seems eerily accurate.

Kiara > Mori > Ina >> Ame >>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>> Gura

>>4239620
That would be kinda hot.

>>4239782
Why do people think Kiara cares so much about popularity?
Is it because of the raging aspergers? It's 'cause of the aspergers, isn't it?

>>4228502
Imagine calling mori lazy when she is universally recognized by her fellow hololives as the hardest working of them all, that's how I can tell you're a retard.

>>4237954
Holy based i fucking love Ina

>>4241799
Because she cares about popularity that much, anon. Whether or not you think that's a bad thing is a different story.

>>4239782
I would move Kiara up on the hololive part because she loves collabs and does holotalk. She also is up to date on most holo events going on and watches practically every big event

>>4227812
There are many forms of love. All five girls express their affection to their fanbase differently. Some are more appreciated than others depending on personal preferences. Threads like these only promote falseflags and tribalism.

Mori hates her fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIU0xG-lXkQ

>>4242555
Funny enough, her watch alongs for the concerts actually drive sales. Management complimented Kiara on this.

>>4243013
huh I missed that. You got a stream where she mentions this? I could totally see it though

I see no one wants to be truthful so..
Gura>Ina>Kiara>Ame>>>>>>>Mori

>>4243190
https://youtu.be/ygJ7VxOGYgU?t=17150
Her watch alongs also do a good job of reminding people that the concert is going to happen. Saw a lot of people that forgot it existed until Kiara posted her schedule.

>>4242565
Cringepilled and see yourself out

>>4243364
oh now I remember. thanks

>>4242565
Agreed. Kinda sick of the whole "they need to lavish me with attention or they don't really care about fans" mentality that seems to be awfully prevalent around here.

>>4229810
>Kiara hates her fanbase
Her fanbase mostly consists of faggots and trannies
Based

>>4230068
She is based YDK anon. She knows well what she do & can be relied hard times. Her banter & talk topic also interesting.

>>4227812
>gura
hates her fans
>ame
ambivalent to them
>Kiara
never has enough to make her happy
>calli
likes them if they like her music, hates them if they like her stream
>ina
likes them

>>4228502
>t. takodachi

>>4237954
people are seething at the truth, good job anon

Kiara > Ame > Calli > Ina > Gura

Kiara=Ina> Ame > Gura > Mori

Kiara needs constant validation, attention, and affection because she has crippling low self esteem and loves her chat because they provide that to her.

Ina is an otaku similar to her fanbase and thus sees her fanbase as similar to herself. She wants to see them self improve and better their life.

Amelia would probably be next because she likes her chat and wants them to enjoy themselves but it isn't much deeper than that.

Gura probably have a love/hate relationship with her chat. She wants them to have fun but knows a lot of them are toxic shitters.

Mori hates otakus and only sees vtubing as a means to an end.

>>4237954
Holy fucking based

>>4247531
I love Ina!

>>4227910
I have to pay to see the real content? lolno

>>4248343
Ina loves you too!

>>4227812
Kiara > Ame > Ina > Gura > Mori

Ina > Kiara > Gura > Mori > Ame

>>4227971
Are you a member?

bro who doesn’t join for the money like wtf are you guys 12 and think someone would waste hours of there day to love you? ofc they want money y’all shouldn’t be angry at them bc they got in for the money

The truth is that no matter what "evidence" you have, no one can actually know how any HoloEN feel about their fans but they themselves. Maybe they're grateful for the support, maybe they see their fans as nothing more than someone to be appeased for paying their bills. Maybe they all secretly hate their fans and only put up with it all because its a job to them, maybe they all genuinely appreciate their fans in their own unique ways and it just doesn't show how you'd expect to see it. Fact is, no one ever can or will ever know for sure. All that aside, acting as if they aren't grateful or appreciative of their fans just because they won't give as much attention to you or other fans as you'd like doesn't mean anything about how they may feel about their fans. At the end of the day, if you feel like you're nothing but a number, then simply stop giving them money and watch someone else, but going online and complaining about how you perceive them to be solves nothing.

>>4231373
>Found the non-creative

>>4248468
Do you love sucking nigger cock

Gura definitely doesn’t hate her fan. If anything, she’s in deathly fear of her psycho fans.

Ame has the Pekora energy with Teamates. She also spoils her members super hard.

Gura is hard to tell since she's very obviously a shitposter limiting her power.

>>4248712
If anyone should be worried it's probably Kiara

>>4248468
Is it really hard to imagine that people have a passion to entertain? They really don't give a shit about the money or the choices they have made over this last year sometimes make no monetary sense. Kiara and Mori care more about becoming someone rather than the money

>>4248468
You do know that you can be passionate about something and enjoy the money...Right?

>>4248860
This. As someone who studied the performing arts in college, there are plenty of people who are interested in becoming entertainers because they love entertaining in it of itself, or want to make people happy. Obviously, everyone wants to be able to pay their bills, and making money is great, but not everyone is in it for the money. Statistically speaking, I'm sure there are plenty of Vtubers who do their job because they genuinely enjoy it.

>>4249092
People who do something only for money come off fucking misserable even when trying not to. Look at actors.

>>4248727
Yeah, I think in Amelia's case she likes to call out some of the stupid stuff chat does, but she also makes clear she's letting them insult her back rather that just ignoring chat when they do it. If anything she goes a little hard at GFE sometimes after doing that, which creates an odd kind of clash, but her fans still seem to love her for it.

>>4250232
She also spoils members a lot

>>4250283
Yeah, members don't really get the wrong idea about it though. It's people who don't watch her enough to notice. I'm not a teamate but watch a lot of her streams since they can be really fun, but I can still tell they have a good relationship since she's willing to be honest when something they are doing is bugging her.

>>4228502
>Ina doesn't read superchats at all
Absolutely based in every way

>>4250343
Ame's membership paid for itself

>>4250438
I appreciate her effort a lot. It's not always amazing stuff but she consistently produces content for it. If anything good in a members section can just be found around youtube in pieces, then the section doesn't have much to offer.

>>4250602
FISH POSTING
FISH POSTING
LET'S GOO FISH
I enjoy the fish posts way too much

>>4239691
I fucking love how her expression became a reaction pic

>>4239782
>Gura
>caring about Hololive
Can't take this seriously whatsoever

>>4231554
Found the salty fox-friend

>>4231797
The levels of copium you're ingesting to expect everyone of them needing to GFE is dangerasu. Are you okay? Do you need treerat's dick to pump your stomach?

>>4233380
You're the idiot sending the money. Good trained doggy, good boy! Such a good Pavlovian mutt you are.

>>4231797
Are you OK?
You can't friendzone a fanbase, since you can't date a fanbase either. You know that, right?

>>4240538
So, if I take this to the logical conclusion, every profession's workers who receive tips, essentially, are prostitutes?

Your mom is quite the whore, my good bitch.

>>4248523
Why yes I do

>>4240538
And here I thought incels were just a plant to make people look bad.

>>4252054
If your salary/wage, assuming you even receive one, isn't enough to support you and instead you rely almost solely on the goodwill of others throwing money at you then yes, you are ultimately little more than a prostitute. Especially when the subject at hand, entertainers, aren't actually a necessary job.

>>4252336
That's your own fault for trying to make this a gendered thing. Male VTubers are no different than females in this regard.

>>4228748
>Deadbeats
>Not last
Opinion discarded.

>>4252451
Ultimately, no job is 'necessary' by someone's parameters. Get your point though, autism aside.

>>4237954
I love how this logic could be used to justify practically anything she might do. Like I bet Ina could cut her streams down drastically and Takos would still say "oh it's because she doesn't want us to get overly attached, she really cares about us guys!"

Guys chill, it's true Kiara outdoes the other girls in superchat readings, but that's just her choice. Some girls choose not to do superchat readings and that's OK. This is why Kiara would never, ever openly mock her genmates for not doing superchat readings. Especially during a full member collab when everyone is watching.

>>4239620
>tsundere cunny shark
mmmmhhhhhh... I can already hear screaming how she hates my cock stretching her tiny pussy even though her moans are getting louder...

>>4240028
see:
>>4256780

>>4248468
There's a few.
Ina literally doesn't need the money, for instance. Her roommate is a professional artist and she's making good money drawing cute girls for gacha. Her work is in AL and GFL, for instance.
Reine's roommate's family is absurdly wealthy.
Gura made decent money with her old persona, she was only a little less popular than she is now.

Not everyone is in it for the money.

>>4246344
>gura
hates her fans
also Gura gives us kisses

>>4247531
>She wants to see them self improve and better their life.
Being a Takodachi is just the Welcome to the NHK experience, isn't it?

>>4260859
Yes, except Ina herself isn't nearly as damaged as Misaki.

>>4260914
Maybe she’s good at hiding it.

>>4260914
>>4260943
Well she has been playing FFXIV since the beta.
She's also lost contact with all of her school friends which is honestly pretty rare nowadays.

I like Ina

>>4261091
>which is honestly pretty rare nowadays
Don't hurt me like that.

>>4227910
Whats it like being a mark lmfao

>>4228502
>You can tell she doesn't even really enjoy streaming anymore and loves disappointing her fans and leaving promises unfulfilled
T.deadbeat

>>4261152
Did you not set up a friends discord server back in uni?
It's a pretty common thing in my country.

>>4261614
I never made any friends in university, and Discord wasn't on the radar when I was in high school.

>>4237954
you, are truly a tako among takos

>>4261614
Discord has had the most detrimental effect on my relationship with high school/uni friends.

>>4228502
>Ina, well, I'd put her #5 simply because she literally never acknowledges or thanks her fans for supporting her and doesn't read superchats at all.

nah you're full of shit

>>4227812
I'd be very interested to know Gura's opinion considering how massive and rampant hers is.

>>4227812
Gura > Ame > Mori > Kiara > Ina

>>4239620
Gura is too stupid to lie. Ina is a far better liar.

>>4266675
Ina loves her fanbase so much that she doesn't read their SCs and sleeps in 2 hours while Kiara cannibalizes her viewerbase for bigger numbers.

>>4227812
Okay it looks like nobody else is going to say it, but Ame's outfit in OP pic related is so goddamn hot. Where do women dress like this because it certainly isn't England?

>>4271660
it's the american lumberjack look.

Ina loves us the most and nothing you faggots say can ever change that.

>>4238692
"teeheehee le salty gremlin rage mad at chat"
- person who has never once watched an Ame stream

>>4230068
Not everyone wants GFE you incel.

>>4271455
t. doesn't watch her streams

>>4274129
>hololive fan
>doesn't want GFE
lying is a sin

>>4274129
pretty hard to call anyone an incel when you watch vtubers