/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544

>>42238491
granted, I'd understand why, they literally recorded the motions and audio ahead of time.

Time to graduate these homos and make NijiEN great again

>>42238491
damn this really sours relations between management and nijiEN, what the fuck is going on behind the scenes?

>>42238588
Luxiem did, but then management decided to shove a bunch of shitters into the event. Then realised it was a logistical nightmare they couldn't handle and canned the whole thing blaming "covid".

>>42238491
DEFCON 5 means it's peaceful

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
Uh oh Riku...

>>42238640
Yeah, the nonexistent management is pretty apparent here, I can understand the frustrations, but this is very unprofessional.

Why is it always men who pull this catty shit while women stay professional? It's the same with Tempus and how they openly shit on their management. Explain, moids.

https://youtu.be/_80-LmuzD6k

>>42238736
because they are "men" with female brains

>defcon 5
Retard

Honestly a based moment from Luxiem
I wonder if the girls will join in

>>42238491
>"Covid"

>>42238491
""""""covid""""""""

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
They were probably told what the rral reason is.

>>42238736
Women are better liars

>>42238736
Women have been enablers of shitty tyrannies everywhere and at any time in history.

>Vox putting a skull emoji next to "covid"
>Mysta foreshadowing "memories in other ways this year"
>Ike's weird "I guess there it is" wording
They know >>42238472

>>42238736
This actually deserves to get exposed though. Being a dramaqueen is the right thing to do

>>42238491
>DEFCON 5
look at him and laugh

>>42238937
That's a 5head observation chief.

>>42238491
MEGA GIGA ULTRA YABBBUUUUUUUUUUU DEFCON OVER 9000
WHAT NINE THOUSAND???!?!?!

>>42238937
>rral
You forgot to cross your t's

Millie termination next?

>>42239051
Depends on why it happened. Straight after a controversy that involved a bunch of infighting in public dressed as a skit a big event involving the branch got shitcanned.

Coincidence? Or perhaps causation.

These guys don't have no one keeping them on check, idk how nijisanji works but imagine tweeting to your own employer that you doubt his excuse for not doing something in a passive aggresive way like all of them are doing, truly pathetic

>>42238691
>nonexistent management
you told me a second class talent like selen already got 3 different managers anon, what happened?

>>42239252
>they cancelled an entire branch concert because of a minor yab that only affected a single person, who didn't even get any sort of punishment for it

>>42239305
>selen
>a second class talent
take a load of this tourist

Someone is getting axed and the event got postponed to adjust for it.

>>42238736
>Tempus openly shit on their management
lol. watch stream.
aside from mister skirt chaser everyone on Tempus have good relationship with their managers.

>>42239280
You can actually do this if you're responsible for a sizable chunk of your employer's income

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
why are they so sassy. no wonder they're a shitshow

>>42239280
>bootlicking is good, actually
Wagecuck, people expose the company they work at all the time if they get fucked over
The only thing that stops some people is a lack of job alternatives, but that's clearly no problem for Luxiem, they could just go to Vshojo of they get fired

>>42239313
>who didn't even get any sort of punishment for it
I dunno, cancelling a whole concert because of your stupidity seems a good punishment. The burden is too great

>>42239313
This is the punishment, anon. Tell the talents that its cancelled because of Millie, tell the public that its covid. Talent knows the real reason but can't say, which causes stress that gets directed towards Millie. She gets frozen out of the company until she quits. That's how they do it in Japan, honor and shame are huge parts of it.

>>42238736
Because women are easy to bully around while men are less likely to take it sitting down.

>>42239347
Luca didn't tweet anything about this? I guess its him considering how blatant he was about making sure everyone knew its him in that millie stream

>>42238736
Pomu did say on stream like a week ago (?) that they're all mad at management for something

>>42239435
Smart money says Luca accidentally deleted all the dance recordings they did and they had no backups..

>>42238491
>DEFCON 5
You are using that term wrong. Here's a helpful chart to consult in the future

>>42238736
men wont take shit, it's that simple.

based. this is yet another nothingburger and no one will get suspended.

>>42239555
I missed this one but I'm behind on Pomu vods, remember what stream it was?

>>42238736
>It's the same with Tempus and how they openly shit on their management
Only Vesper did that
Other members threw him under the bus
0 unity

this is why nijisanji is ass, they give people freedom and when they eventually fuck up they act like they care, nigger you don't give a shit about your talents, just do things the right way if you want to have a good reputation or don't do them at all, no wonder everyone calls them a black company, they are fucking joke

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
HOOOLY KEK NIJI IS CONFIRMED BLACK COMPANY

>>42239609
Tbf, this is a normal day at niji.

>>42239690
Cry me a river millie

>>42239672
I think it's one of the minecraft streams

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
Euro chads confirmed knowing the Kung Flu is a hoax

What a Sloppy shop
Back to back drama galore
Hiring spree of low view shitters
Cancels the big concert

>>42239313
>Only affected a single person
>Multiple members attacked the newest gen
>Multiple members publicly attacked Pomu
>Mysta was dragged into it despite not even being in the stream
Sure whatever you say anon, it only affected one person and didn't create an environment where everyone now wonders who shat on them publicly.

>>42239280
That's the thing, wagechama. Anycolor doesn't do shit. They don't scout talents, just let the applications roll in, sort by number of subscribers in previous life and hire them that way. They don't advise talents on image management or content. They don't help with schedules or other background work. Getting shit approved takes weeks even if everything else is done and they just need the green light from the responsible suit. They can't set up events, shit just keeps getting cancelled last minute after talents sink hundreds of work hours into it. Don't even get me started on the merch. Management simply isn't there. But they still collect their share of income that is at this point higher than in any other corpo in the industry and make the chuubas apologize for the fuck ups. Fucking rotten black company.

>>42239415
>>42239422
>cancel a profitable yearly company event to teach millie a lesson

you need to be over 18 to view this site, seanigger

>>42238736
women have no balls

>>42239682
>>42239885
Why the fuck do you type like that lol

>>42238491
>yet another mandatory monthly artificial "drama" that you fags believe is real
I thought this works only on Twitter

>>42239963
>yearly
They canceled it last year too.

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
checking the replies, not a single person is against what they are implying at all
anycolor....wake up your management

>>42240028
cry more nijifag

>>42240028
I have yet to see a single person eating up the covid excuse

>>42239963
Its only delayed, at least, if all goes according to plan. If the lineup changed due to them firing her they'd still have to issue refunds anyway. If she quits though, no problem though, force majeure. They'll say they found a solution and reinstate the concert before refunds need to go out. Read the terms of service.

>homos inadvertently casting doubt on the scamdemic
It's a little late but I guess I judged them too harshly.

>>42240211
Women will think about the plandemic and teach their children as mothers or as teachers. Children will learn to distrust. Children grow up and revolt. Luxiem started the revolution.

>>42240152
Anon they're giving refunds. There is no event

>>42240211
holy retard

>>42240292
The refunds haven't started yet. They're "preparing to send instructions" for people to receive their refunds. If the concert is reinstated before that process begins then its like it never happened. Pay attention.

>>42239963
>profitable
Riku is cashing out.

https://vocaroo.com/1hAoV1wBF3aO

>If anycolor use the pandemic as an excuse to lie about doing something bad ... I wonder what other companies and organizations used the pandemic as an excuse to do other bad things
t. some NPC roastie using her brain to think for the first time

>>42240433
I bet they took every vaccine without question too

>>42240404
BUY THE DIP FISHMAN

go back to /pol/ chuds

>>42240119
ledditors did (because of course they did)

>>42240563
>Vox is /pol/
Stranger things have happened.

Come to Holo Nijifriends.

>>42239344
Third rate talent with fourth rate streams

Nijisanji rebellion arc has begun! This is not a drill!

>>42239672
Found it, 4:13:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ej9Rn3_Xjs

>>42240698
She would be number 1 in Phase Connect instead of male-liver's cocklsleave #3

Everyone was saying during the Millie yab they have no management, hence why something that stupid was able to happen. I'm surprised they don't have more yabs now since they are a bunch of zoomers.

>>42240028
An event this big getting cancelled is a pretty big deal on it's own, now add multiple Nijis openly shitting on management? Yeah, this is huge. I can't even remember the last time someone openly shit on their own company like this, let alone three of their most popular vtubers. Even Rushia knew enough to keep her mouth shut after she got fired. If Fubuki, Pekora and Korone suddenly started shitting on management openly, then it'd be a big fucking deal too.

>>42240152 (me)
>>42240391 (me)
Watching this clip of Elira upset about it and repeatedly saying its potentially a postponement, and I'm even more sure this is the rrat. The cancellation is absolutely dependent on whether or not Millie quits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJYioxfidmM

>>42239280
Sad thing is NijiEN have a separate discord without the management and the discord with management is dead as fuck.

>>42239609
The current state is Defcon 3.
Ye was correct.

>>42240986
Kanye was right...

>>42240953
Management doesn't use discord they use slack.

>>42240932
>postponed until millie quits
The absolute state of nijikeks

>>42238736
>men
>male vtubers
lmao

>>42240932
Will fishman save her?

>>42241095
Maybe, fishman probably doesn't care. I think otherwise she's pretty tainted.

>>42240932
the fuck is this autistic schizo reasoning? ruin company profit and make a critical event's success incumbent on one wayward employee's choice to resign rather than straight up getting rid of the problem employee? you fucks watch too much anime and kdramas

fucking minors shit up this site

>>42241265
Two words, moron. Force majeure.

>>42241265
Make another post but this time without pissing your diaper

>>42240807
>if things were different they would be different
great insight

>>42238736
Because only extremely mentally ill "men" want to be vtubers.

>>42241265
Let me guess, you actually believe it was cancelled because of covid?

>>42238736
>lol men are trash!!
Your oshi isn't gonna fuck you.

>>42240621
vox is implying covid excuse is a lie, not that covid is fake
retard

>>42241545
Same difference according to them. He's a marked man for the rest of his life.

>>42241265
They literally suspended the black elf guy for liking Pekora. Logic doesn't work here.

>>42238491
LMAO. 3D live before council you fucks said, right? Now there's not even gonna be one anymore. Just fucking shows God is on Holo's side, again, for the Nth time.

>>42238664
dont expect these seanigs to know that lmao

>>42241291
you're talking of disrupting multiple assets (the entire EN division) to wait on one problematic asset's decision, when you can easily terminate her a la yugo. It's obvious the problem here isn't one stupid flip

>>42241307
what? I just said shit as it is. you're fucking morons for believing this shit, or you're fucking underage


>>42241627
money talks. give me the damage millie's yab could have done in terms of actual numbers. and no, fuck off with your rrats - have they lost viewership? What WAS the actual damage? On the other hand, you lose money for cancelling shit like this. a corpo will still go for keeping profit and minimizing loss

>>42241431
let me guess you're a fucking kindergartener who only believes in dichotomies. of course there's something else going on under the hood, but to blame all of this shit on a single retarded femoid is, well, retarded

>>42242007
Stop posting and graduate already, Millie.

>>42242189
rangeban the philippines already
then millie wouldnt be relevant for the foreseeable future

>>42242305
Can we expand that to all of SEA?

>>42238736
Because they have a spine and aren't going to meekly capitulate. You're trying to reframe it but it's masculine, not effeminate, to stand your ground even if it's a risk to do so.

>>42242391
sure, that would improve this board's post quality immensely

>EuroCHADS actively calling covid fake on massive public platforms
BASED

What is with everyone talking about Millie graduating? What the fuck happened?

So wait, doesn't this make them COVID-deniers?

>>42242528
She orchestrated the dumbest stream imaginable, anon

>>42238736
If women was more professional than men, why did EN management wanted more Tempus than girls? Those girls are literally carrying 8 guys and EN managent's paychecks on their backs.

>>42242007
>>>42241627 (You) #
>money talks. give me the damage millie's yab could have done in terms of actual numbers. and no, fuck off with your rrats - have they lost viewership? What WAS the actual damage? On the other hand, you lose money for cancelling shit like this. a corpo will still go for keeping profit and minimizing loss
They did lose money because suspending the elf guy actually cost them a sponsored stream. It doesn't seem like money is important to them. Because if it is, they wouldn't make the new girls collab with men just to try to piss off the 'Holocorns' that live rent free in their heads.

>>42242482
In the pre-Musk days all of them would get banned.

>>42243131
>why did EN management wanted more Tempus than girls
fluctuating income, tempiss produce way less but its a more trustable earning source than western femoids since they dont take as many long breaks and are more consistent in producing content (the exception being vesper during january)

>>42239609
THEY'RE GOING DEFCON 3 ON THE JEWS

>>42241060
Oh right, thanks for reminding me, Pomu

>>42243210
I disagree on your second part regarding the holocorns as even hololive EN has followed suit with the in-house cross-gender collabs in recent years. The advantage or disadvantage of such strategies arent clear yet. But that's a different issue for a different time.

I think the elf guy is a little more complex than that (if we are talking about gwelu), but it still isnt on the level of a division-wide event being cancelled to punish one person

You can easily make millie a pariah a la coco by excluding her from events and still get the money everyone else generates. Eventually she'll crack, just like coco. You don't throw that much money away just to get at one person you can control with a contract.

Obviously this isn't just about millie.

>>42243526
Or is it?

>>42243526
Right, if you think about it logically, no one sane would cancel/postpone a big event, losing money in the process to punish one person, in the first place, that decision probably has to be approved by multiple people and I doubt all of them are insane enough to go along with it. Also Gwelu appeared in that big 3-days singing event even though he's under suspension, they didn't cancel/postpone that event to punish him or anything, his parts didn't even get cut out.

i've been a dumb tribalist for the most of my time on this site, but i genuinely concerned for them. i know they worked hard for this.

>>42239344
all women are second class in manjisanji

>>42242794
Found it. What a god damn moron.

>>42238491
So, what else gets blamed on that covid thing?

>>42243766
You mean based tribalist.
But I agree, Nijifags deserve better

>>42243353
Nonsense. Cover is the one that allows them to take as many breaks as they do

>>42238736
You're confusing men and faggots.
These niggers need to turn their balls in, they do not deserve them.

>>42243758
millie, i know you love the attention but i hate nijisanji and i want it exposed for the black company it is

I wanna see nijien erect a barricade and sing songs of black and red and get gunned down mercilessly by the french national guard while their mothers wail helplessly

>>42238491
Please let Luca do it too and join them in getting fired...

>>42244226
>We regret to inform you all that Nijisanji EN liver Millie Parfait has passed away due to COVID complications.

>>42243759
yep. basically - a black company, no matter how black, is still a company

>>42244576
Is this a nijisanji member larping as a fan again? You went too far.

>>42238736
Because you will never, EVER be a woman :)
The only time you can be mistaken for one is with anonymity, like so. Enjoy it while you can :)
When you try to larp as a woman in real life, closely watch the mimics of everyone the very first second they see your freakish masculine face with makeup. The first second, they can't hide their disgust. After that they mask it and condition themselves to accept your ghoulish appearance.

>>42238491
The secret groupchat mentioned that Luxiem should graduate. Looks like they're graduating for real.

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
But seriously what are these retards doing?
Are they asking to be terminated?
It's like they want their fans to question the official statement, horrible decision when they being backed by chinese.

Tokyo had a spike of cases recently, just today was 4k, plus two people from the JP branch got sick with covid and they had to cancel their 3D streams too, I can't stand EN, it's nothing but contempt towards their own company, just quit if you hate here so much.

>>42238491
This is what happens when you don't tard wrangle your talents. Holos would never do something like this.

>>42238736
Since men are more willing to call out management on their lies? Whether their employer is Cover corporation or Anycolor when a guy knows their employer is lying there is a greater chance of them calling their employer a liar even when they know it could lead to a graduation. If Anycolor really did cancel the 3D concert for some other reason and is using Covid for their excuse than everyone in NijiEN would be furious.

>>42239936
But enough about cover

I feel this is less about doubting COVIDs validity and more about being angry at the cancellation and basically admitting that the REAL reason is definitely NOT COVID related. Everyone in other threads keeps saying hurhur niji based but are missing the point

>>42240865
Newfag

>>42238736
Lmao, what rock are you living under?

>>42245204
nigga they legitimately make too much money to get kicked out for something like this.
if that was the case, mysta would've gotten the boot MONTHS ago. he's easily the most outspoken of the entirety of en when it comes to management.

>>42245580
And yet they never actually get anything done. They just appear like angry petulant children.
But sure, I'm certain that owning management on twitter will get things done

>>42245600
Cover does filter the talents pretty harshly. If anything they whine about too much image management. Hololive gets well organized big events all the time. Their merch is miles ahead of Nijisanji.
Cover is still a shit company that gets away with a lot of bullshit due to early adopter advantage but they are still somehow less shit than Anykara. Nijisanji laissez-faire model would make sense if they were taking significantly smaller share of income but they don't. Every single small corpo takes less and even Cover allows its talents to renegotiate a better share if they stay around after their first year. It's just Anycolor that gets 50% for doing fucking nothing except allowing you to be associated with the rainbow company.

>>42245756
cover fired rushia but maybe the chinese are a bit more forgiving when their own employees openly mocks their official statement

>>42245619
Especially the way Ike's tweet is worded, they're clearly doubting the official statement, not that covid is made up

>>42243759
NTA, but the Millie stream involved multiple talents shitting on each other. Sure, Millie is at fault for organizing and running that, and how that stream even made it to the stage of being live is its own discussion entirely, but just because our perception as viewers says that Millie got the blame, they could be being punished internally for it without disclosing that to us. Talent infighting, even if horribly, thinly veiled as "owning the channerz" is a huge issue regardless of how you slice it. Remember Roa?

>>42245881
Isn't Vshitjo even worse in that department? I don't know how much income they take from the chuubas but I do know that their management LITERALLY just doesn't exist and it really is just a brand where you pay to slap their logo next to your name.
I mean they don't even recruit people, they just wait for popular, established indies to come to them. Kinda wonder why they haven't picked up Saruei yet.

>>42246136
they can still have big live events without rushia, but with all of the other gen 3s present

they can still have big collabs without coco with all the other gen 4s present

they can have vesper essentially exempted from tempus guild-wide collabs on short notice

theyve shown that they can terminate yugo instantly if they really wanted to

If everything has been pre-recorded, and the tech is solid, then feelings behind the scene don't matter since everything's in place, and all they need to do is run the show.

It's obviously an issue in logistics or tech in that case.

>>42246162
they don't take any money except from the merch sales on the vshojo store and sponsorships they help set up
and even if they don't want to help you with something you're free to do whatever you want without their help, like almost all of kson's merch and events are completely unrelated to vshojo

>>42246162
No, Vshojo works the way Nijisanji ought to. They don't do shit as a corpo but they are also not taking any money from donations and other sources of income that go directly to the chuuba. The corpo makes money from corpo assisted merch sales, sponsorships, events and the main corporate channel that uploads stream highlights. Their issues are that they are only as good as the talents on their own are and the talents are retarded, and their failure to expand when they should have assimilated more friendly /lig/s months ago.

>>42239344
Anon was being generous, she's dumpster tier shit-rate talent.

>>42239609
To be fair, defcon 5 is constantly misused on tv and movies, I've heard it said a ton to describe 'maximum bad'. I blame the media.

>>42246352
Eh, fair enough. I don't keep up with the concert events, so it's news to me that it's all prerecorded. Still shitty though, so here's to hoping that whatever it is gets sorted out soon enough

>>42247261
I don't think thats the case, example?

>>42238614
Nijien was never great. Shut up sea hamburglar.

>>42239351
we don't watch tempus retard, no one does

>>42243131
because they wanted to try and recover their flop, if they released a new female gen, it'd basically confirm that tempus 1 was a flop when the girls were significantly more popular then them. however, by releasing four more boys, they can pretend like they had this intricate plan all along, and say "oh tempus 1 wasn't a total fucking flop, just step one to a bigger plan"

>>42239356
>Biting the hand that feeds you
You're replaceable. So if you dont want your boss to fire your ass and that another takes your place, then the most logical thing is just to no say anything.

>>42249002
Management is more replaceable than popular talents though.

>>42239351
Skirt chaser went to Japan to play golf with his manaher. None of them have manager issues threadreader.

>>42240786
>i think recently the stuff that's been bothering all of us as a whole was internal stuff
>we've been fighting it and that's been our stress
>at the moment so far nothing outside of that has really caused a lot of stress
>i'm just kind of trying to do my own thing despite what's going on internally

>>42238664
and it is
t.holofag

>>42247700
Tempus has higher viewcount than most of NijiEN (except for Flayon)

>>42245580
Using a blanket reason like that people can just nod their heads and go "oh ok" to is literally what every company ever has done.
They will NEVER admit incompetence which boils down to "We fucked up" in some way. Nor will they say shit like "A staff member who was working on it died and we don't know the password to the folder he kept this shit in"

Calling them out for using a flat cover story like that is unprofessional as shit.
You call them out if they said that puts the blame on someone that's outright wrong, like "Luca deleted the recording and we have to re-record it so it'll be delayed" but not a cover story that's intended to save face. ESPECIALLY if you don't have the balls to say the real reason.

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
>Luxiem is denying COVID
Holy shit, they're monsters on par with literally Hitler. The UK government should start investigating them for hate speech and genocide.

>>42238736
>streamers
>men
they might as well be women

>>42238491
remember to say thank you to Millie

>>42250025
Yeah except in England no one cares about covid anymore except a fringe minority of hypochondriacs, people just treat it like the common cold now

>>42238491
>doubting
reality has already proven all the COVID scare shit wrong. there is no need to "doubt" anymore, when you know for sure. doubt implies uncertainty.

>>42238491
Heres my rrat

Management is doing its best to graduate Millie.

Millie and other talent agree that management is overreacting. So they support her.

Management as a "countermeasure" decides to postpone Live in order to (in addition to showing who is in charge) buy time to prepare for Millie's departure.

Pick your rrat:
>Something something millie yab graduation something
>Powerplay by NijiEN management.
>Breakdown in communication with all the 3pp needed to make the concert work (venue, engineers, perms, etc.)
>Technical incompetence making concert impossible.
>Management realized that the cost and logistics doesn't justify the profits
>The HAND OF YAGOO falleth and smiteth the concert.

They were doomposting way before Millie's dumb stream and if you think it has anything to do with her you're a moron

>>42238736
>moids

Have any of the other Nijimales commented or just those 3?

>>42242007
>>42241265
I'm sorry you are arguing with four literal retards.

>>42238736
Imagine being on the side of management and pretending "professionalism" when those lazy fucks managed to fuck up this event. Literal brainrot.

>>42238736
Male vtubers are faggots

>>42257331
Keep coping Millie, your to blame.

A bit vindictive of Pomu to get the concert cancelled for everyone instead of just Millie.

>"covid"
Aw shit nigga.

>>42239760
Everyone knows it's a hoax except actual soibois and boomers terrified because 70 years is too young to die (lol) while they still have their pensions to spend and houses to reverse mortgage. The only people keeping them meme alive are people who loved the attention from being the holiest guy in the room about it and the people who want more free shit.

While I think that Millie stream was in poor taste, they shouldn't have gotten more than a talk from management about why it's dumb. I'm hoping the reason for the concert getting cancelled is something else.

Holochad here, just reminding everyone to buy their tickets for Holofes, Hololive's concert that won't be cancelled and will be a massive success just like the last one was. Man, it feels so fucking good to be a Hololive fan.

>>42238491
>Relys on Chinese viewers
>gets mad that NijiEN outsourced to china
the irony...

>>42238736
>anti-management=catty behavior
Women are the reason wages are so low because they are horrible at negotiating pay.

>>42239965
The truest statement in this thread.

>>42247879
The most retarded post in this thread.

>>42257601
What is this nicholas cage for filipinos?

Covid is a meme

>>42239422
>frozen out
>but half of lazulydia and ethyria are people she knew before joining
This is probably why they're hiring random japanese people now, the friend group nature of old-nijien makes it harder to JAPANESEU HONORU

>>42245881
>>42239936
Tell me you only watch NijiEN without telling me kek
> But they still collect their share of income that is at this point higher than in any other corpo in the industry and make the chuubas apologize for the fuck ups. Fucking rotten black company.
any of those members are only popular because of the nijisanji brand

>>42249002
That's how you get a Kizuna Ai and Game Club situation Anon. In this case it's more like the thing biting your hand is a Golden Goose. Your option is to either let them bite or appease them in some way. If you strangle the Golden Goose in this situation and try to replace it your gonna be shit out of luck.

>actually put covid in quote marks
Oh jesus christ.

covid is a very dangerous desease guys.

>>42239435
did he say who he was?
i might start to respect him for owning up for once

>>42260904
none of them have revealed their usernames, but some anons said he was "ExternalHollow" (others said it was Pomu). I don't know anything about Luca so I couldn't tell you. The only one we know for sure is Millie (PepperCanary).

If he was "ExternalHollow" he posted the riku meme and coined the term "flopsoleil"

>>42238491
WE ABOUT GO DEATHCON 3

I have a Deathcon(plex), because I love my Mori!

>>42261092
bars

>>42261038
ExternalHollow is literally hex haywire rewritten

>>42261196
it doesn't really work

>>42238491
>LUXIEM IS OPENLY DOUBTING "COVID"
uhhhhhh based?

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
Damn I've never seen anything like this before. Openly doubting management.

they're actually offering refunds, no way it's postponed, this shit is 100% cancelled

>>42262215
They'll reschedule the concert, and have the people who already bought buy again.
That way they can pump up their revenue for the shareholders.

>>42260904
I'll give you a hint its the one that only posted about Pomu

>>42245951
Its more because NijiEN doesn't really have as much people on par with Luxiem in terms of view/profit.
If they did then you can bet your ass they'd get the boot for possibly making the company look bad or "Breach of contract".

Im sure the concert was canceled because millie wouldn't snitch out the names of the talent involved in her little ' le own the vt incels ' stunt.

>>42262350
What is his issue?

>>42262480
nah the first thing Millie did was throw them under the bus on twitter. Wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't know which is who, and that's probably an even worse situation.

>>42262637
That's what i was getting at my guy. Im sure management and high up corp suits wanted names. But as you said she probably doesn't even know who took part of it.

>>42240807
But enough of Ethyria

>>42238491
Is this related to Lazulight going on break together and like 9 others too?
There's no way this is all coincidence. I really wonder what set it off.

>>42262526
pepperycanary is Millie

didn't some tempus guy praise nijisanji management a while ago? i mean, they were never very good to begin with, but kek

>>42262838
What? We already know who Millie is. She is the one that is easiest to spot since she is streaming and the top part of "x new messages" resets whenever she types

>>42262886
yeah I think it was the orange homo, he complained about management not promoting stars properly

>>42263043
Exactly, and that user is pepperycanary

>>42238491
What's Anykara gonna do? Graduate them?
rumao

>>42244303
Gayest statement in this thread

>>42238491
Luxiem branchwide graduation incoming!

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
Ah yes, "Covid"

Shitting on your Chinese overlords is the worst thing you can do. You just pissed them off and remember what happened to the last one to piss them off? Harassment for MONTHS until she graduated. Have fun with that Nijifags.

Funny how you fags only care about professionalism from the talents, management can be as unprofessional as it wants it seems

>>42238491
>Mr Coom calling out the Hoaxdemic
BASED BASED BASED

Wtf is going on with this company
Are they trying to pander to this place by being a yab factory and thrive from the bad publicity?

>>42238491
based milord

>>42238491
>COVID is bad
nigger your whole career solely exists because of it, be more grateful
without COVID, vtubers would be like Kizuna AI

>>42266342
>least obvious Rabbi

>>42266342
>without COVID, vtubers would be like Kizuna AI
You say that like it's a bad thing

>>42266342
>oy vey the goyim are doubting the scamdemic shut it down
Fuck off kike Luxiem are based and /ourguys/

>>42266342
WEAR THE MASK
USE THE VAXX
STAY AT HOME
LIKE A GOOD CITIZEN

>>42240932
That doesn't sound like it is rescheduled to me, it sounds like the event is cancelled if they don't make a great effort to get it uncancelled. I'm not sure why people are taking this clip as a positive sign.

>>42238519
>>42238544
I wonder if this has something to do with Millie's stunt. Maybe a "one bad apple ruins the bunch" sort of deal, the punishment is the concert being delayed for everyone.

>>42268846
Don't think they're related. Some of the NijiEN talents were posting sadfaces on twitter days before Millie's stream. That's probably when they got word from mgmt.

So the talents are still going over to record right? I don't understand why half the branch is going on vacation. Everything is so weird since Yugo left and the vagueposting and coverups don't help.

>>42263913
I don't think their chink overlords are gonna be happy with that

No Sava, don't feed the rrats.....

>>42262886
He was mainly complementing their merch and ability to get perms. Which holo is notoriously bad at.
Now managing concerts, that's something Holo is better at by a country mile.

>>42261196
>ExternalHollow
>HexOnwaterlol
Water makes appliances go haywire. You're onto something

>>42269930
>complementing their merch

Enna and Millie didn't even comment on it on Twitter. And I think Millie hasn't tweeted for days as well. Are they the only ones who haven't said a thing about it?

>>42261196
>rewritten
it's called an anagram

>>42270112
If I remember correctly it was the shipping price and speed.

>>42270187
Just checked.
It is only Millie and Enna who are silent on it.
Everyone else actually commented on it.
Not sure if that implies something or not. And right after the shit with the stream happened, Millie just cancelled her stream and hasnt made a single tweet since. Not even a retweet or replied to anyone. She has gone full silent for days.

And just looked again, not even left a like on anything.

>>42270187
I don't think her stream was bad enough to justify anything serious, if anything the luxium tweets feel worse to me. But it still worries me how we've heard nothing of Millie since her collab with Luca.
I think they only ones involved in the event who haven't commented on twitter about it have been Selen, Sonny, Enna and Millie. But Selen briefly touched on it on her stream, and Enna and Sonny at least retweeted the announcement.

>>42270757
Sonny talked about it on stream last night as well. It's just Millie and Enna who have been silent on it. Enna has a collab with Kyo coming up, but I doubt they'll mention it at all.

>>42270757
Forgot Sonny exists. Fuck me.
Well, those three then.

>>42270877
This is honestly fucking me up. I feel like Nina would have been much more serious and maybe even cancelled he stream earlier today if anything BAD bad happened with Millie, Enna would surely have cancelled the collab with Kyo too.. but who's to say.

>>42270877
You know, if it would be someone else, I wouldn't question it. But the fact it's Millie and Enna of all people that are silent raises questions.
Their entire thing is being "twins", "besties" whatever you wanna call it.

>>42261196
I think this is right actually, he's the one who did the "flopsolei" shit, he doesn't have an alibi AND he's not one of the few professional fuckers in NijiEN

>>42239713
>Holofan retards out trying to start drama
>It was Niji
0 days since holofan retardation takes on text form

>>42270744
Millie is on a week long suspension for her shit stream and Enna might be too, it's just they allowed Millie to be free until her collab with Luca then the suspension started

>>42271122
And I think nobody would be surprised Hex talking shit. He gives off tremendous asshole vibes.

>>42271210
Enna is in a collab with Kyo right now

>>42271220
Yeah, dude's been posting creepy shit recently on Twitter too.

>>42271210
That wouldn't surprise me. That seems to be case when someone is going silent on Twitter without any announcement.
Who knows, maybe in a day or two we'll see a Niji Announcement of Millie being suspended for internal misconduct.

>>42271271
Enna's suspension might start once the Kyo collab ends like how Millie's started after the Luca collab, or she's on eggshells. Hard to say for Enna

>>42271210
Enna is having a collab with Kyo right now, but I wouldn't be surprised if Millie is suspended

>>42265902
Hi millie, graduating soon?

>>42271365
I think it goes double for Enna.
There was already the entire thing with Kyo which I am sure Niji management did not enjoy.

>>42271210
>Millie is on a week long suspension for her shit stream and Enna might be too
oh so we're just making stuff up now

>>42238736
based roastie

>>42239034
I recall stories about belgian and dutch women during the second world war being "raped" by germans, english, americans, Irish, canadian...

>>42270981
It'd probably look even more weird if there were no ENs streaming in the morning when most weren't going to be part of the AR. It's probably more of a professional "The show must go on" attitude, that or what happened to Millie wasn't that serious if it wasn't worth discussing.

In the off-chance Millie was really suspended without notice.. how fucking stupid does management need to be to actually do that? Millie would have been suspended for making a simple unarchived stream pointing out the kind of exaggerated criticism she and others read online, speculating about everyone.. so they pull a move that will cause way more people to criticize her and the others?

>>42270898
He's supposed to be graduating sooner than later since he's landing VA roles apparently.
I like how he completely mogs Kronii who claims to have similar aspirations.

>>42271742
well at least they kept the fans guessing by not saying anything

>>42271742
Problem is, there will always be shit going on behind the curtains we viewers will never learn of.

>>42271742
It happened to Ren for his collab with Nuxtaku. That's how management in EN handles suspensions, which is the right way to do it instead of painting a neon green light on it for the public to see

>>42249002
>Biting the hand that feeds you
Lol nigga, the streamers are feeding Anycolor, not the other way around.

>>42271767
>>42271819
Of course there will always be shit behind the scenes, but you're not supposed to make it THIS obvious. It gives places like /here/ TON of ammo to just fling shit at streamers they don't like. Speculation like what were are doing here isn't good either.

>>42271365
>Lets discipline our talents by suspending them
>But we'll delay the punishment by several days, almost a week later
>And we won't tell anyone they're suspended, thus negating the actual punishment and moreso throttling our own potential exposure and revenue
>And we'll also let them continue collabing without even referencing the alleged moment of infraction
>And we greenlit the whole thing and had a strict guideline, but i guess ranos in /here/ know better

Holofans..........not even once

>Hopefully we can make other memories this year without it
Mysta's implying if you read between the lines it's shelved until next year, which lines up with the fact Niji is more concerned with it's anniversary live concert coming up, and whatever is coming in the fall for the JP branch, after contract renewals happen

Going to be interesting to see who graduates before then

>>42272075
A couple of the first 3 waves have already hinted they aren’t sticking around

>>42272075
I can see Niji giving priority on a Luxiem-only event when they clearly know where the big bucks come from. Even still, cancelling the AR Live just a couple weeks after announcing it and making a big deal about it is stupid as shit. In a "there's no way anyone involved with the show business would think of doing this" kind of stupid

Wait, wasn't this the event that was announced like a week or two ago? Shouldn't have announced it unless they knew for sure it could be carried out.

>>42272313
Pajeet management jumped the gun

>>42272313
Which speaks to either incompetence or skullduggery being afoot.

Looks like Kyo and Enna are having a good time in a collab. They are even saying Millie's name, so maybe not bad for Millie? the suspension only not graduation but I don't know with Niji, they do like Yugo graduation so we will see in a couple of days

>>42272403
I'm thinking this is exactly what happened. Management hyped both the talents and the public on this super cool event, they had recorded some shit already and everything seemed fine. But unbeknownst to everyone else, staff was having trouble with money/tech/etc, and right after the official announcement they get confirmation about something that halts the whole thing. They tell the talents, everyone is obviously pissed, causing this reaction from Luxiem, the ones who know they can get away with being this pasive-aggresive.

>>42272482
Enna seems just a little low-energy at moments, but otherwise sounds alright.

Okay, what is wrong with Enna today?
No swearing, no shit talking. Actually hesitates to say certain things. Kyo actually had to encourage her to speak up.

>>42272750
Enna probably knows she's walking on eggshells with staff right now

>>42244784
kys nigger stay on topic

>>42272750
>Talking about incest, discord kittens, sugar daddies
>Still shit talking kyo
Are you retards from an alternate universe where Holo's Fauna joined as Enna?

>>42249002
You're not gonna replace Vox, Mysta, and Ike in one broad stroke over something so inconsequential. They have enough number collectively to have the clout to do something like this

>>42238736
Fuck off.
Millie's hidden gc yab was catty and purposeless. This is actually consequential for the talents, disappointing for the fans, and should be reflected back onto management

>>42272750
she read the dropme thread

Luxiem can say and do as they please. They get fired and Niji En is dead.

In any professional setting these fucking luxiem fags would have been fired.
There is simply no reason to do all this. Anykara didn't blame anybody. And there is no reason to belive Anykara did anything wrong.
And the fact that they don't say the reason why it really was delayed makes Anykara look like the grown up in this situation and the men look like children.

I mean, if you're going to call bullshit then say the reason and not whine incessantly.

>>42273934
I agree with this. Millie's stream was bad at worst and something that management can ignore, but these tweets actually give management a bad image and something they can get lack for.
However, this is 10000% true >>42273946

>>42242007
>money talks. give me the damage millie's yab could have done in terms of actual numbers. and no, fuck off with your rrats - have they lost viewership? What WAS the actual damage? On the other hand, you lose money for cancelling shit like this. a corpo will still go for keeping profit and minimizing loss
Millie's yab was an extra retarded one because it implicated EVERY NijiEN who wasn't presently streaming. A broad loss of trust across the board, when you have people speculating that your oshi could have made the comments shitting on her coworkers in such a distasteful fashion.
Everyone in the corpo could have been the one to say the most distasteful and cruel stuff about their coworker, which creates an atmosphere or suspicion and negativity both backstage and in the crowd. Now all the livers now have to account for the possibility that their coworker is gonna fuck them over if they don't happen to stream in a specific timeslot on a specific day.

>>42274328
I would agree, but I highly doubt their fans at-large even give a shit. Staff or management might be a bit annoyed, but I also doubt that.

>>42274328
>when you have people speculating that your oshi could have made the comments shitting on her coworkers in such a distasteful fashion.
I know viewers are stupid, I am one. Multiple ESLs sent Mysta DMs about how other streamers were talking shit, he was confused about it and probably got angry when he realized it was about Millie's stream.
But management should understand the context of the stream, and not even Millie would be so dumb as to not tell everyone about her stream idea so they were okay with being mentioned in passing.

Niji insider here. NijiEN AR concert was cancelled because multiple sponsors pulled out because of the Millie YAB

>>42274838
what sponsor cares about a deleted skit stream?
retard

>>42274632
I can't speak for anyone else, as I only really follow the dragon sisters and Rosemi in the first place, but I just felt bad vibes when I clicked on the stream. Like, there were that many names in the groupchat going along with the premise. Shittalking the actual moneymakers of their branch like 2views on twitter trying to stir up drama for clout. Shows the clear delineation in NijiEN after Lazusydia, and the total lack of professionalism "because nijien is a family"

nijispy here, the /vt/ larp stream and millie's involvement in it was a ruse to distract you from the fact that the chinks ruined the AR event.
That's my report for today.

>>42274328

This is what I don't understand with Mysta's tweet that he did not know about the Millie GC stream because I thought they know each other schedules to not overlap some stuff. Because the GC stream was on Millie's schedule after Anime impulse but she got sick so she postponed it.

He could ask Millie directly but he whines about it first on Twitter and then suddenly deletes it and said nevermind must be a joke. And now doing the same thing like posting it on Twitter about a vague response to the AR Live cancelation and then would say I won't stream today because I don't feel fine, I might say something bad. the fuck is this guy.

>>42274838
I've been away for a month, what did millie do?

>>42275545
Mysta in particular is clearly moody as fuck. I'm thinking he woke up to messages from idiot fans thinking the chat on the stream was somehow Millie and others genuinely shit-talking Mysta and others. He's genuinely worried at first, but then he remembers Millie's stream idea, but he's still pissed at the misunderstanding and made the tweet with awful wording. Knows how bad the tweet looks and deletes it

>>42275545
>I thought they know each other schedules to not overlap some stuff
NijiEN gives 0 fucks about overlapping

>>42275545
All this can be explained with Mysta being a moody dumbass as usual.

>>42275853

>>42275853

At least he has the balls now to not delete the "covid huh" tweet. hahaha

>>42272403
based noor

>>42272048
>And we won't tell anyone they're suspended, thus negating the actual punishment and moreso throttling our own potential exposure and revenue
They did that to gwelu or are you just being retarded, they only announced the suspension 12 hours before his months long suspension end.

>>42276091
probably because the stream tweet looked bad on Millie, and Mysta didn't want that to happen, while this tweet makes management look bad and he wants them to know that

>>42275363
How did Chinese ruin it?

>>42272048
Literally happened with Yugo.
What was it? One or two weeks of inactivity before an actual announcement was made?

>>42238491
>>42238519
>>42238544
I feel like I don't have a retarded enough rrat to compete with others on this thread.

My rrat is that if these three are brazen enough to openly oppose management like this, there must be a major fuck up behind the scenes, and this can't fucking be the largely inconsequential Millie stream. Moreover, if this had anything to do with a potential Millie graduation or suspension, the "covid" motive previously invoked by Anycolor would appear so fucking fake and retarded, I can't understand what use it would have had in the first place (but, it is a jap corp so who knows).
It's easy to call the talents unprofessional for this, but to my knowledge neither Vox or Ike were the type to spout out that level of stupid bullshit: something of actual importance has to have happened. They have absolutely nothing to win by doing this, and only Mysta is dramaqueen enough to say things like this for no reason.

>>42271742
>so they pull a move that will cause way more people to criticize her and the others?
How new to Japanese companies? Public humiliation is quite literally THE most common form of punishment, with banishment room coming in if you don't take the humiliation like a good boy or girl.

>>42276411
by existing

>>42276364

Well, Millie doing the stream is already bad enough and Mysta tweeting that he doesn't know about it, Pomu reacting like she was not part of it, and people kind of know, her bff slumsaint (Enna) going overboard on the GC stream making Millie speedrun her graduation

It sounds like in NijiEN, who needs enemies if you have friends like this?

>>42277037
vesper...

>>42276844
I agree with this. Even if Millie's thing was bad enough to justify a suspension or a graduation, I don't think Anycolor is stupid enough to throw away all the money already invested and the good faith of the fans after just announcing the event weeks ago.
I support the idea that management fucked up monumentally somehow, possibly even after being warned by the talents or about something talents showed concern for, which would explain why the boys were especially harsh.

>>42276844
Yeah, that's a fair point. The fact that they all say roughly the same thing makes me think they actually discussed it beforehand, and agreed to collectively voice their frustrations. If it was just Mysta, management could punish him, but Vox, Ike, and Mysta each have a sizable fanbase. Management can't suspend one without applying it to the others, and that would gum up too much of their revenue streams.
People forget, but Ike has like, 300k more subscribers than Selen (who has the highest subcount of the NijiEN females). Luxiem is big enough to make moves like this, but I also believe that they're a fairly professional wave, and wouldn't do this shit on a whim.

>>42247879
Tempus is an incredible success for HOLOSTARS because that’s what they are

>>42277908
>they're a fairly professional wave, and wouldn't do this shit on a whim
Mysta is a wildcard, but I agree with this. The only thing in this theory that makes me raise an eyebrow is Luca and Shu not joining in.

lmao Tempusfailures deflection thread

>>42278219
So it really is true that nijiniggers deflect to tempus whenever they are getting flak

>>42241001
Kanye did nothing wrong...

>>42266342
They’re not saying Covid isn’t real they’re saying that saying “oh we have to cancel because of Covid” is a lie and it’s something else behind the scenes
Ike’s response is pretty explicit

>>42278216
Neither Luca or Shu are from Europe, so many its just a problem with travel there. That's just speculation, but I'm not sure what else is going on that would warrant shutting it down besides EN management setting expectations too high before JP staff had to break the news that they were too busy to give a spot to EN.